WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: Hanging With Omar Epps 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:05.920 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:18.000 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, Flowing out of the backfield, 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:23.840 flooding down the sidelines. He's hanging with the Boys, presented 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:28.800 by Wingstuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts, 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:36.080 Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Yo, 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.479 what a difference one game makes. We're going to the 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:45.440 super Bowl. We're going to the super Bowl. Bye bye, Mexico. 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:49.800 Can you still cancel us? No? I can't, and I 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.720 don't want to cancel them. I'll take the L we 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:54.680 go to the super Bowl. I will take the L 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.120 on that. I'll take that hit to the pocket book. 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.760 Delay that trip for later. How you fellas doing great? Yeah? 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.959 Nate lost some weight Monday. Nate lost a lot of weight. Nate. Yeah, 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:12.039 Nate crash dieted over the weekend. So Jesse, how you doing? Listen? Man? 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.720 You know me, I'm blessed. Let's do it. Got his 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.440 Mario socks on? Yeah, Mario got matching shoes, matching shirt. 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:22.840 I'm in the holidays. I'm the Holidays Holiday, Happy Holidays. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:26.640 Bas the Hollie Yeah, Gerbils, Tommy John what's up? Get 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:28.319 them draws ready for here we go. I need them 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.200 furry draws and welcome to the show. To your right. 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.160 Nate is out today. He had to go to a graduation. 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.560 But we have a very special guest in studio. Oh, Mariopps, 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:40.919 how you doing, Omar? I'm good fellas good good. Went 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.119 to the game yesterday, went to the game yesterday. Good 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:46.440 luck charm. It's a great uh knock on wood. Yeah, 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.920 every time we come, we win. So we'll see you 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.880 with Phil yea. All right, so let's let's jump right 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:58.360 in it. Your take coming into this game as a fan, lifelong, 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:02.080 huge Cowboys fan, What was your take coming into this game? 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.080 You were at the game, and then what was the 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.960 vibe after the game? My take coming in uh was 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:12.400 I wanted us to make a statement. I wasn't cool 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.240 with just to win. I was like, we need I 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.880 need to see the team, you know, not the potential, 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:20.679 Like we need to see it. And watching the game, 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:22.840 it was just like, Okay, this is this is the 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:27.440 team that we believe is there and you know, hopefully 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:30.240 for me, the mindset is like everybody's being nitpicky about 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.280 getting in the playoffs and all of this, and I'm like, no, 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.160 we gotta go on a run, Like yeah, we have 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.280 to have the mindset of we need to go six 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.120 and oh and then see what happens after that. So 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.200 we want to know now and let's let's see how 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.399 we ride. None. Let me ask you this question as 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:46.880 the game was happening. You're there, you're in person, you're alive, 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.600 and you've seen what this season has been all year long, 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.840 up and down roller coaster ride. At what point in 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:56.720 time of the game did you feel comfortable with two 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:00.239 minutes now? This game was one? What was that? It 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.320 was one play? Well, my guys came with me to 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.600 the game. We were all like, no, you need to 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.560 score again, to score again, score again. I forget. It 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:11.280 was somewhere in the third quarter. But you know, um, 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.440 I mean golf didn't look too good man, he looked 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.160 kind of off. He missed a couple of passes, and 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.600 that the first quarter that it might have been a 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.680 different game. Yeah. I thought the d played solid. They 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:27.040 were consistent. I was most impressed by um Kellen Moore's 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:31.400 uh he adjusted, you know, because those first two series 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.720 was like, oh, come on, let's not do this again. 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:37.440 Just run the ball, dude, anyone knows what's gonna happen, 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.120 Just to do it, you know, you man up and 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.200 moved those men, and once we got to that, and 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.320 you know, a couple of little cute plays here and there. 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.680 But I thought he made some good adjustments after the 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:52.080 first two drives offensive drives. You know, I went into 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.360 this game and I tried not to psych myself out 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.920 because I was like, this game doesn't really matter, like 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.240 in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. But 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.520 the closer it got to game time, this game mattered 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:07.040 a lot. And not on paper because you still you 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.440 beat the Eagles, you beat the red Skins in your end, 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.280 whether you'd want to lost this game, right, but this 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.880 game meant a lot because they needed this game to 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.680 prove to themselves we can beat a good team. We 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:20.000 haven't beat a good team all year. To me, beating 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:21.600 a team and beating them the way they did, like 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.560 this could be huge. Like I still don't think anybody 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:30.320 no but this, but see, all right, this is where 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:34.839 I get a little bit. I get a little frustrated, 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.159 and people come down on me because they always say 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:42.080 I'm negative, Nancy, I'm just the voice of reason. I'm 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:46.080 the voice. I'm the voice of reason. This is the 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:51.240 part where I get a little bit upset because we 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:56.880 watched this team play yesterday and you're saying Tony Pollock bawling, charling, bawling, 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:02.200 even the old men of the backyard, Winton, balling, Swan 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.360 leave and you I get so frustrated. I'm saying, where 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:08.760 the hell is this? Where has it been all year? Like? 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:12.680 If they played like this last last night against the Packers, 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:17.080 they went right against the Orleans they went they beat 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:19.680 the Jets by fifty. They play like this, they beat 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:23.640 they beat every they beat just about every single too. 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.400 That's the part that's frustrating, because I don't know where 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:29.640 to point the finger. I was. I was at a 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.520 charity event a couple a week of ter ago one 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.720 of the prominent players on this team, and I asked him, 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.080 I said, well, what's the issue, and he was just like, 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.719 I don't know, because we look at it and we 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.640 go we have everything here, but we can't put our 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.400 finger on what's wrong. And then they go out and 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:52.120 they play like this, and now everyone's like super Bowl, 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.320 Lets like we forgot about what happened three weeks ago 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:01.400 and That's the frustrating part because I'm sitting there saying, Okay, 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:06.599 we're seven and seven, and we were more we were 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.800 more like we were three weeks ago than we were tonight. 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.520 There's more there's what we saw three weeks ago. There's 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.400 more evidence of that on film than there is what 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.960 we saw last night and against Philly. This is the outlier, 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:23.080 right So now I'm saying, what team packed, what team 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:24.679 will be packed on that plan to go to Philly 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:28.000 next week. That's a good question. I think. I think 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:32.520 you can attribute it to to something or someone or 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.960 a group of people, and to me, it's it's it's 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:38.719 the coaching, it really is, you know, and not knocking Garrett, 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.960 but I'm just saying as a fan, you know, watching 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.560 from the outside, teams take on the attitudes of their coaches, 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.840 you know, or coaching staff, and so that sort of 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.359 lasa fair. You know, the last three weeks, U you know, 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.880 we're coming in, we're big shots, and you know, we 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:55.560 have a good first drive and then we get punched 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.480 in the mouth. It's a difference. Backs up against the 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.120 wall right now. You know, jobs seem like they are 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:02.680 on the line right now. He's a group of grown 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:04.440 men trying to feed their families. And that's what I 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.640 saw in the field yesterday, like all the hype is 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:09.200 out the window. We need to go out there and 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.760 really perform, and they need to, you know, how do 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.320 you to your point? How do you you know, pack 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.040 that attitude did and get on a plane and let's 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.680 get on this run. That's interesting to me because I 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.400 almost took an opposite point of view and that I 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:23.320 thought when I was watching that game with the man, 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.840 these guys are playing so much more aggressive, so much 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.600 harder to me, and I was in my mind, I'm thinking, 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:33.440 what what did the coaches say to you know, flip 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:37.200 that switch? They showed the highlight film, but hey, I 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:41.280 want if it works, everybody's knock something. It was different, 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:45.119 But to me, I thought it came from within. I thought, 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.640 the players are doing this the coaches. What could the 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:49.520 how could the coaches get them to play harder? We 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.000 talked about that some last week. I don't know if 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:55.760 they could have and whatever the reason, the players they 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.800 took it up a notch. I thought, yeah, but how 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:03.960 do we This is my things as a as a 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:07.240 formal player, right and you and I had this conversation 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:12.040 UM pre show last week, and I think it was 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.240 Nick Saban Bill Belichick's head it You don't have to 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.400 motivate a lion to kill, right, that's true. Right, So 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:20.920 why does my back have to be the wall? Why? 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:22.800 Why does my back has to be against the wall 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:25.200 for me to come out and play like this? Why 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.640 why do I have to be embarrassed for four three 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:29.720 or four weeks in a row, three and seven in 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:31.920 the last or four and seven in the last eleven 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:33.840 games for me to have to come out and play 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.679 like this? You see what I'm saying. And to me, 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:42.720 that's where the fraudulent play comes in the part for me, it's, oh, 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.800 I got my backs against the wall. My job's on 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.800 the line. This, all these other factors have to come 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.120 into play for me to step up and go. All right, 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.480 now to time for me to go and be a dog. Well, 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.520 you don't have to motivate a lion to kill. But 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:56.640 you know a lion can't kill if he's caged. And 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:58.959 I'm saying that in the sense of you gotta put 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:00.920 these guys in the right position, you gotta you know, 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:03.559 on both sides of the ball, and then they can 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:07.120 use their talents. You know, to your point, I thought 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.040 the guys were playing a lot harder. They were also 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.360 playing as a group, you know, on both sides of 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.560 the ball, especially on defense, it seemed like it was 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:17.880 one body moving around versus you know, different bodies moving around, 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.720 and that I haven't seen that in a few weeks. 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:22.560 You know. It just seemed like everybody's out there doing 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.520 their own thing. And when we have that type of 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.160 synergy and that type of gel, you know, who knows. 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.160 I mean, we're not gonna you know, we're not saying, hey, 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.000 we're going to the super Bowl, but you know, we 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.320 showed that we're formidable. And I've been saying it the 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.200 whole time. Look, giants, they want to chip at nine 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.240 and seven, so the numbers don't really matter. Is if 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.080 you get into the tournament, it's one game at the time. 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.720 That's interesting that you said that, because a lot of 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.600 talk the last week, especially last couple of weeks, we've 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:53.240 been hearing from various people within the building that everybody's 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.280 on a different page, everybody's doing their own thing. And 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.760 for you to say hero ball, for you to say, 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.319 watching it as a fan, it looked like every body 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.280 was playing as a team is really interesting because that's 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.000 been what we think might be the biggest problem is 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.400 everybody's trying to go do their own thing, and I 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.800 play within the system, right because when you're not putting 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.960 the right position, it kind of forces you to do that, 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:15.640 you know what I'm saying. And I think that I 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.280 think a big thing is identity. You know, who are we? 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:23.040 And I think you know, first people have been saying 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.080 the first you know, our first three games, all those 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.120 teams sucked. Yeah, after the fact, that was another professional 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.079 football team when we played them. So it was all 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.120 in the beginning of the season. Okay, we you know, 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.120 we had some losses. I mean, we could have beat 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.360 the Packers, could have beat the Saints and um we 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.400 hell those guys, right, But the identity to me came 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.320 out yesterday. It was just like, this is who we 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.400 are week this is who we can be in week fourteen. 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.800 That's That's okay though, because it's not a the seasons. 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:51.800 The seasons you want to get into the tournament, right, 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:55.000 and that's one thing, you know, bringing up the Patriots, 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.280 that's one thing that Belichick is figured out is how 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.320 to get those men to peak at the right time, 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.319 and it's it's a different season. We get into the tournament, 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.480 it's it's the playoffs. So I'm cool with peak starting 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:08.800 to peek now versus you know, a few weeks ago. 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.280 I just find it. I just find it hard that 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:15.400 it takes you fourteen weeks to formulate an identity. I 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.160 think you want to kind of have that on your 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.520 way into the season and then to develop it as 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.480 the season going along. I think week fourteen to say. 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.000 And even so, let me ask you this question, you 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.520 think this is a mirage. We just saw the decision 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.480 the team we're going to see down the road. I 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:35.240 don't know, does anyone do we know? Is anything confident 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:41.080 that I'm just saying, But I'm just I'm just saying, like, 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:46.080 is is there anything I'll put it? I'll put it 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.320 in the perspective that that you did with on your 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:52.640 your profession. Okay, you know that when you shoot a movie, 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.720 they're certain directors and producers that's about their stuff, right, 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:58.840 And you know when you blessing when I when I 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:02.800 work with this director, it's gonna be boom boom boom 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.560 boom boom, and it's gonna be legit and everything's gonna 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:07.480 be ready and everything, and then you got someone you're like, 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.920 I don't really know this dude, I don't really know 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:11.719 this lady. I don't really know how they work. So 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:15.440 the expectations a little bit off. And so when you 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.439 go when you when you go and work with that 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:19.920 dude or that woman, you know that this is going 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:24.760 to be a well oiled machine, and your thought process 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.560 is different opposed to when you go and deal with 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:30.120 someone that you really don't know how it's going to be. 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:32.720 I think that's what we're at with this team. It's 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.880 do we have anything solid enough to know when I 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:41.040 go and work with Spike, it's gonna be boom right, 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.360 opposed to when I go and work with this one, 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.040 I don't really know what it's gonna be. Well, so 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:48.920 you hope for the best, but you don't really know. 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:53.000 That's a that's a great observation. But between both of 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.960 those scenarios, I still bring my a game. Doesn't matter 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.760 if it's you know, this well known director or this 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.839 unknown director. I'm bringing a thousand percent. And to your point, 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.240 you know, within the team, I think you know the 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.880 guys have to step up to the play it. Really 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:09.840 you got to go off of the eye test. We 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.360 can't overthink this, you know. At the end of the day, 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.480 the team is what we saw in the field yesterday, 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.440 you know. And I know people like to throw around 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.720 stats and analytics, and it's that old Mike Tyson thing. 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:21.880 Everybody has a plan until they get pushed in the face, right, 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:25.120 you know. So we you know, if that team shows 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.079 up for the next few weeks, we're gonna be formidable 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.960 and I'll take our chances against anybody. I agree, Yeah, 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.960 I agree. And it's kind of funny you brought that 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.400 up because that saying has been on those video boards 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:39.640 around the building in a training table, it says we 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:43.040 are who we are, and it's like who are we? Like, 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.160 are we the team that we've seen the last you know, 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:50.160 thirteen weeks, or are we the team we saw yesterday, 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:54.080 which for me, I'm not buying in yet, Like, show 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:55.880 me who you are. Do it again. We can do 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:57.920 it again we saw yesterday, and do it again. We 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:01.679 run the ball, we're built to run on offense in 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:07.400 past second, We've got weapons on the outside, men move men. 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.120 That's the team's identity and that's what I loved about yesterday. 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.040 It wasn't cute. See it wasn't It was like the 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.520 whole stadium knows about to handoff the zeke. There's nothing 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.160 more demoralized than I would imagine for a defensive player, 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:20.920 like we just can't stop. You know, we know what 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.520 they're doing. We know what they're doing, and that's to me, 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.920 that's the identity. And then the d gets amped up 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.760 and now they're playing together. We got a little bit 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:31.840 of it. I hope hopefully we get more of a 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:35.280 pass rush moving forward. But you know, d Backs were playing. 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.320 Sean Lee had that incredible that I think going back, 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:39.920 that was the moment where I thought the game was 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.200 over once he got that interception and the way that 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.320 he ran it back because he didn't just get it 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.000 and like, oh we got it, he was like I'm 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.200 trying to score it. To me, that that play sort 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.720 of personified the urgency that the team has right now. 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.400 So again, hopefully they can bottle that up. I like, 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:57.960 I want them to be frustrated. I want them to 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.360 be on edge, you know, and explode on a few 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.600 let's take our first break. Another question. I was just thinking, 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:12.360 I was sure saying to myself, Shanley, you get down down. 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So, 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:42.480 just so you guys don't know, I know, you've talked 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.240 to us on the phone the first time you've been 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.520 in studio with us, right, and then you guys may 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:51.800 not know who our esteem co host is. So he's 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:56.040 he was involved in probably one of my favorite plays 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:57.879 in favorite games ever because it was one of the 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.919 first road games I ever went to as a Alboy employee, 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.200 and he was on this reality show called Mister Fourth 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:05.760 and Long. I don't know if you remember that Fourth 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.639 and Long. Michael Irvan, Yeah, Michael, my bad killed the 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.560 whole show. Yeah it Twitter Handles. You can still get 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:16.480 that on iTunes, though, please go get get it like 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:18.920 twenty bucks. Yeah, I need my dollars sixty nine sitting 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:20.840 they're gonna send me at the end of the year. 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.560 Go get that. So I think Kyle has probably my 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:27.040 favorite play of Jesse in a Cowboys uniform that that 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.680 I believe he can punch up here and show us. 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.480 This was the game that Romo broke his ribs in 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:37.680 San Francisco. I remember that game, Yeah, and here's Jesse. 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:45.800 There's Jesse. Then turn on the Jets and almost almost 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:49.239 made it almost, So that's Jesse. So just for you 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:52.200 guys that didn't know who Jesse was, that's our co host. 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:58.720 I like to anytime I can bring up that play, 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.359 I keep telling you guys, that's one more play that 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:05.920 I had us a cheap time. Tell us. That's why 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.119 I always bring it out. I'm never gonna be mad 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.879 at that play that I'm not either, I'm score boarding. 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:13.320 That's one moment. You know what. You know what that's for. 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.240 That's to remind every fan that always takes jabs to 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.600 you on Twitter that says you never did nothing and 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.840 all that. That's why I always do that because because 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.520 you were there. But I can I can also say, 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:28.440 even if you were in the game, I don't think 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.159 that you would come up big in the moment because 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.159 even when the moment happens, you get you get a 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:40.000 little scary. Me, Yeah, what moment? What are we talking about? Oh? Okay, okay, 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:44.600 who's that? Who's the scary guy right there? Let me 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:49.399 tell you? Yells and you get a little scared at 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:52.040 that moment, baby, jeremiahs to my right, and I had 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:55.240 that telephoto lens and I knew Zach screen and You're like, oh, no, 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:57.119 I couldn't shoot him because he was literally for me 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.560 to kurt. So I was moving. I moved the lens 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:01.280 out of the way so Jeremiah can shoot it. I 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:03.320 didn't know he stood up. He was kneeled down next 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:04.760 to me. So I'm moving that out of the way 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.359 and laughing. I think Shannon's got you beat. And yeah, 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:12.119 that was hilarious. Hell when did you figure out you 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:16.840 were going to do that? Uh? When it happened twenty 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:22.960 seconds ago. Touche, good job, It's all good. Good job. Listen, 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:26.000 when when a lion roared, don't you get scared? When 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:29.080 you get a little scared, place still eat at you. No, no, 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:31.360 you don't think about like, oh if I would a 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:35.080 stutter step stiff on. Well, No, just like it was. 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:36.680 It wasn't meant to be that. It wasn't meant for 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.720 that to be that that meant was. There's a long 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:44.760 story behind that, um but that that moment was for 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:50.520 a bigger purpose. That moment was for a greater purpose God. 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:53.680 God wanted me to have something else. Happened in that moment, 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.000 and people know I'm serious like that that moment if 0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:00.320 you if you know my story leading up to that moment, Yeah, 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.160 that moment wasn't sup posted me. I wasn't supposed to score. 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:05.359 It was never meant for me to score in that moment. 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:07.240 And if it had not been for me, we don't 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:09.000 have Dan Belly for all those years we won games 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:10.960 with Dan Belly because he missed earlier in that game 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:12.600 and I got a chance to come back and overtime 0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:13.960