1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:00,640 Speaker 1: Worrying. 2 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: On today's episode, there will be spoilers for Frankenstein, which 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: is over a century old, So if you're gonna get 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: spoiled on Frankensteiner, it. 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Might as well be here and Predator bad Lands. Hello, 6 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: idam is. 7 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 2: Jasconcepcion and I'm Rosey Night and welcome to XRG, our 8 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: weekly group chat roundtable with producers and special guests to 9 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: talk about all the things we're excited about our movies, TV's, comics, 10 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: and pop culture. 11 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: In today's episode, we are bringing in the Scream Queens 12 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: Fagiamo del Toro's Frankenstein. It's a big combo guys. Me 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: and Jason loved it. I'm excited to dig in. In 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: segment two, I'm bringing in Aaron and Ian super producer 15 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: chatter about Predator bad Lands and guess what, somebody's got 16 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: a spicy take. Segment three, it's me and I'm gonna 17 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: be interviewing the star of Predator bad Lands, Demetrius Schusta Kolamatangi, 18 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: who is definitely after this movie want to watch? Then, 19 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: of course we'll be ending it as always with thank Galactus. 20 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: It's Friday and we're all gonna share are things that 21 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: we can't wait to do this weekend. But first, Frankenstein, 22 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: let's bring in Carmen and Joel's. 23 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to the program. 24 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: How are you, ladies? 25 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: Let us quickly. I'll quickly recap the plot, which is that, 26 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: you know, Victor Frankenstein uh is going to the Arctic 27 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: to kill his creation, but then his creation ambushes him, 28 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: and while he's grievously wounded, he then tells in flashback 29 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: the captain of the ship like, all right, you want 30 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: to know what's going on with this crazy creature. I 31 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: got a story. 32 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: I got a long ass story. 33 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: He tells him the whole thing, and it involves his 34 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: sad childhood and the crimean war and how he got 35 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: hired by this crazy rich guy to like, uh, you know, 36 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: U dissolve the boundary between life and death, and he 37 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: how he built this creature but then felt really weird 38 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: about it very soon after, and then you had various 39 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: fights and arguments with the creature who wanted Victor to 40 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: build him a mate, but then Victor don't want to 41 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: do it, and now he's been chasing the creature all 42 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: around the globe, trying to kill him. And here we are, 43 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: I really like this screen queens. Let's start with you, Carmen. 44 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 2: What'd you think of of Frankenstein. 45 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 4: Well, it's no secret that Gearmel del Toro is my 46 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 4: favorite director of all time. When I saw Pans Labyrinth 47 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 4: as a kid, that like really, I was like, oh, 48 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 4: movies are like a thing, you know. So I went 49 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 4: into this fully being prepared to love it, and I 50 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 4: did love it. I think, for me, this is how 51 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 4: a historically accurate. 52 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 3: Movie should be done. And I don't mean that this 53 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 3: was a historically accurate movie. I just don't enjoy. 54 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 4: Watching something that is so like intentionally made to be 55 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: historically accurate that it loses all kind of substance and creativity. 56 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: So I really enjoy here that we're it's almost like 57 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 4: we're doing historically accurate through drag, and it's like I 58 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 4: feel like we're understanding how the past was through a 59 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 4: modern context. They're talking a lot about class dynamics, they're 60 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 4: talking about war, they're talking about like you know, and 61 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: the other thing I really love about this movie is 62 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 4: that And I would have to go back and really 63 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 4: understand the Otherkenstein movies, but this one was not sympathetic 64 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 4: to Victor, and I thought that that was finally great. Yes, 65 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: it was not sympathetic to Victor. It was like, you're 66 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 4: actually a monster. Mia Goth's character Elizabeth, is that right? 67 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 4: She uh is kind of like our voice of reason 68 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,239 Speaker 4: in the movie. I thought it was a great movie, 69 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 4: and of course I'm always as the as the director 70 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: of the department of how it looks. 71 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 3: It looked fantastic. My eyes were feasting. My only critique 72 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: for the. 73 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 4: Movie was that I wish that the cg I didn't 74 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: look so like Netflix y. 75 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: You know, I agree, let's talk about that once we 76 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: get the full Yeah, panibly because I had a similar take, 77 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: especially after seeing the recent Netflix feature by Catherine Bigelow 78 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: House of Dynamite, I have the same kind of concerns 79 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 2: about the netflixy look of the features. But Joelle, your 80 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: thoughts on front Kittstein twenty twenty. 81 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 5: Front, Uh, While hot Monsters are back, We're gonna talk 82 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 5: Predator after this. And I'm happy for our our six 83 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 5: foot three slash four guys out here really just living. 84 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 5: I really appreciate that. Thank you Deltauro for never letting 85 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 5: us down on that front. Kate Holly did the costumes 86 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 5: and they're exquisite. I think we're going to look at 87 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 5: a really really tight race between this and The Sinners 88 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 5: and possibly Heada For costumes, those are my three top 89 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 5: picks for best costumes of the Oscars this year so far. 90 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 5: I think what Headed did with like It's Head, it 91 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 5: takes place over one night. That costume transforms so much 92 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 5: over the course of that night. It's just so beautiful. 93 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 5: But what they did here, and if you've seen the movie, 94 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 5: you know at one point Emily's bringing this red dress 95 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 5: if she's playing piano, it's completely laced up in the back. 96 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 5: The storytelling that you're getting out of these clothes, out 97 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 5: of what the monster wears, out of Victor's like. 98 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 6: Very uptight clothes is great. 99 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 5: I will also say, guys, the queer subtext is queer subtexting. 100 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 6: It's everywhere. It's good, and it's. 101 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 5: It's it's almost evil mustache tourly gay, which is really 102 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 5: some of my favorite gays. 103 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 6: I love when we can get a little yucky, it's 104 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 6: a good time. 105 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 5: I think that this movie kind of goes in the 106 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 5: cannon of like quality horror. I don't know if it's 107 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 5: a great film yet. I need to watch it a 108 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 5: second time. I think it's really solid. I had a 109 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 5: lot of fun watching it. 110 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 7: Uh. 111 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 5: It got me on the Jacob Alardie train I was 112 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 5: before I was like, okay another Yeah, too many white. 113 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: Meant to me. 114 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 5: At one time Internet there was like white boys, not anti. 115 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 5: There were just twenty white boys. I couldn't tell them 116 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 5: a part and I was like, you were all of 117 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 5: these men and everybody's thirsting after I didn't know, but 118 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 5: now I see the talent. It's really jumping out. I'm like, 119 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 5: get that guy more roles. He deserves them. So yeah, 120 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 5: I really really look forward to watching this movie again. 121 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 5: I had a good time watching it. Rosie was right 122 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 5: next to me and she was shedding tears and I 123 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 5: was like, this is really Resonated's like very was the 124 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 5: guy next. 125 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 6: To her like gasping hers. 126 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 5: He was like so emotionally rot so oh he was. 127 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 5: I think it's really resonates with folks. So I had 128 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 5: a great time in the movies. 129 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 2: Rosie and he thought my thoughts are very similar. So 130 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 2: I'm going to just let you go and then yeah, 131 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: then I'm gonna lay out some slight notes and conversation 132 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: starters to kind of unpack this film where a little bit, 133 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: But Rosie your thoughts. 134 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, I mean I loved it. I went in 135 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: with actually like very low expectations, even though I do 136 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: love Panslabyrinth, I love Kronos, I love Early GTT. That 137 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: was a huge part of my you know, cinematic kind 138 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: of yning and aspirations as a kid were inspired by him. 139 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: I did not love his last couple of movies, and 140 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 1: even like historically movies that I did enjoy, like Shape 141 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: of War, I do think there's some really great, like 142 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: interesting critiques that have changed the way I feel about that. 143 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: So I went into this with like, no, no, no, no, Pinocchio. 144 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: I love must be serious Pinocchio. 145 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 8: I love it. 146 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: It's animated. I love that movie. It's amazing. I did 147 00:07:54,960 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: not like Nightmare ally, but but I feel like this 148 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: is a case of the right director making the right movie. Yes, 149 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: Like when I was a kid, everyone was the you know, 150 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: oh Tim Burton should make Ellis in Wonderland. That would 151 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: be so cool, And it was like idea. It speak 152 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: exactly like the idea was. It would look a certain way, 153 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: it would feel a certain way, and when he did it, 154 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: it was something completely different. This, to me, was a 155 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: perfect match like I love the original book. I love 156 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: the version of the monster we get here that is 157 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: very different to any version we've seen before. I too 158 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: have been Jacober Lordie pilled. I was not anti a Lordie. 159 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: I was Alodi questioning. I have not watched enough Euphoria. 160 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: I did not know the range. But there were moments 161 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: in this movie where I was crying, just simply when 162 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: it changed to the monster's perspective and we got these 163 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: kind of epic moments of him adventuring alone and kind 164 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: of these this self discovery and this freedom. Those moments 165 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: really moved me before we even got to the stuff 166 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: that was kind of more textually emotion all. I think 167 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: for me, I loved that it was more of a 168 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: gothic romance gothic movie than a horror, which I think 169 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: may surprise people when they see it now. That is 170 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: not to say there are not horrifying moments. There were 171 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: a lot of guys. 172 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're very unsettling. 173 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah so good. Yeah, but it's still not necessarily your 174 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: kind of like stalking monster style horror, which we've seen 175 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: some really hilarious reviews of people who clearly have never 176 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: read Mary Shelley's iconic Frankenstein, who were like, oh wait, 177 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: the monster's not the bad guy. So I love I 178 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: loved it. I do think I agree on the CG point. 179 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: I agree that I would have loved to see a 180 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: little bit more miniatures, but for the fact that it 181 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: was made by Netflix. I do think that the sumptuousness 182 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: of the clothes and the setting, and the fact we 183 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: got it into the theaters at all, even though I 184 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: do think they've flubbed the release, makes me have a 185 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: lot of love for this movie. It hit right for me. Jason, 186 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: tell us your note. 187 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I agree with everything that it, everything that 188 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: everyone said. I've always I've been on a Lordy I 189 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: thought that, you know, I think he's I think he 190 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: is making really interesting decisions which you would not expect 191 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: from like a standard hot guy actor. And I really 192 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: appreciate that. And even in Euphoria, the way he plays 193 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: a very standard jockey kind of good looking guy character, 194 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: there's like complexity there, at least honestly one of my 195 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: favorite parts of that show, which I find to be 196 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: like like a car crash, like a mess you can't 197 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: look away from, you know. And so I've always been 198 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: I've been on the Lordy Train, and I agree broadly 199 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: with everything that everybody said. Here are the things I 200 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: want to talk about. Think, Yeah, it's it's interesting. Don't 201 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: you think this movie in twenty twenty five, like, it's 202 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: very much While it's very anti Victor, which I agree with, 203 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: it's also very like pro making of the monster process. 204 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: It's very much it's very much pro like, hey, if 205 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: you can, you should, don't you think like it ends 206 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: in a place where you're like, the monster's a delightful 207 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: the creature is a delightful guy, Like make another one 208 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: where I kind of left feeling like, listen, Victor was 209 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: like a bad vessel for this. Sure, but if you 210 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: get a more ethical guy to do this terrible procedure, maybe, 211 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: and that's a very interesting stance to take. I feel like, 212 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: at least that's the way I came up. 213 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: I think because of. 214 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 5: The way that he acquired the bodies and the absolute 215 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 5: like massive mounds of bodies it took to make this 216 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 5: one person there the film says, there's no ethical way 217 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 5: to do this, like we got it, look like we 218 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 5: got lucky. 219 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: But okay, don't you think the distance of the creature 220 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 2: is like a thinking feeling sensitive guy. 221 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: Conveys like, hey. 222 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: Maybe it was worth it, which I find very complex 223 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: and interesting. 224 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 5: I think we got lucky that this one is not 225 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 5: a holicidal maniac. This one's got like a nice heart 226 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 5: and he really care in the same way we're you're 227 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 5: about to get into Predator, Like this one dude is 228 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 5: different from all the others. 229 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: Different. 230 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 8: Literally. 231 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: I do love that read, though, Jason, because I do 232 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: think that that speaks so much to how fantastic a 233 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: lord he is in this. 234 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 9: Role, Like you really all like, like, this guy's better 235 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 9: than Victor, so wouldn't you want to have more people 236 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 9: like him in the world. 237 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: But then again, the kind of thesis of the movie 238 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: is like only monsters play god, so you're not supposed 239 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: to know. 240 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 5: I say what I wanted most after the movie ended 241 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 5: was me a gosprit, Like. 242 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 7: So. 243 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: How do you get that if Vicdor is no around 244 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: doing his chawn o'haw kind of what I'm saying, like 245 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: it just in the Age of AI. 246 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 2: Where like every day reading a different story where it's 247 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 2: like what if the things comes alive and call them? 248 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: You know, Tom Brady trying to clone his dog. 249 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: Well, Barbara streisand famously did she did. 250 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: Tom Brady says, it does. 251 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: I agree that the that the thesis is like playing 252 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 2: God is bad, but it it definitely muddies the waters 253 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: when the outcome of playing God is like this really 254 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: nice guy, wonderful, it's wonderful, sensitive man that we've created 255 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: that we are yearning for him to have like a 256 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: partner created. 257 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 6: I guess through this exact same process. 258 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: That's all. 259 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: Like, I'm not saying there's a right or wrong answer. 260 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I was really fascinated by that tension 261 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: of there be of like the movie and the in 262 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: the book itself, like clearly taking the stance like don't 263 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: play God, but also like making it complex with like 264 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: but it was great. But it turned out. 265 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 5: And let's talk about like the women a little bit, 266 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 5: Like I really like Carmens would like to hear you know. 267 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 5: I know you guys are fans of the original text 268 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 5: and the genre and this director who has done women 269 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 5: pretty well over the course of his career as far 270 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 5: as like writing them and making them full human beings. 271 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 5: Can you guys speak at all to like what's different 272 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 5: from the book and then what works about me a 273 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 5: gosp portrayal? 274 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: Oh baby, they did make some big changes for sure, 275 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: but I did think for me like it works, Like 276 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: I like the changes. There is so much more connection 277 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: between her Elizabeth and the monster, and we take out 278 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: the you know, the biggest change here for this you know, 279 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: one hundred year old book. Sorry guys that invented sci 280 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: fi if you haven't read it by a teenage girl, 281 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: you know, Elizabeth is is murdered in that book by 282 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: the monster. 283 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: And on the wedding night day. 284 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: So what I kind of love is I love that 285 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: Heia Giamma del Toro kind of gives us that wicked 286 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: esque reimagining of like, well, what if that's what Victor's 287 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: family right, because they were embarrassed that they literally like 288 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: Victor killed his own brother, Henry, and then now you 289 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: know what happened to his wife, Oh, a monster that 290 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: you brought to life from the dead bodies of other 291 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: people stole her away? Sure, no, she died, like and 292 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: I kind of it works for me. 293 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: So I also really like the the incredibly edipian like 294 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: a move of having goth play not just Lady Elizabeth, 295 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: but also Victor's late mother who died giving birth to 296 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: his younger brother. She did creating this incredible. Of course 297 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: you're you're remembering this through him. These are his remembrances, right, 298 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: And so it adds this wonderful layer of of weirdness 299 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 2: and complexity to Victor two, where he's seeing Elizabeth as 300 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: he saw his mother. Yeah, seeing his late mother as 301 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: this kind of uh, you know, life giving figure who 302 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: then tragically he loses. And it adds a note of 303 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: strangeness and yes, an obsessiveness to his relationship with Lady 304 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: Elizabeth that I found really cool because kind of like 305 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: walks through the story in the book, it's like here 306 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: and gone. 307 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: And also like I think one of the coolest things 308 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: about that is like Mia goth loves doing this like 309 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: this was obviously influenced by her double role in X, 310 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: where she played both the final goal and the killer, 311 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: and the killer was an older lady, so she got 312 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: back into that hair and did prosthetics and I think 313 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: she does such a good job. And Jason, I love 314 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: that he brought that up because I do think there 315 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: is this kind of Oscar Isaac brings this kind of 316 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: heed of polish like mummies boy, kind of childish energy 317 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: that never goes away, and I think it shapes a 318 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: lot of why people have been like, oh, maybe I'm 319 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: not feeling oscar Isic in this role because he's so 320 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: He's sniveling and grotesque. He loves to be awful, and 321 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: I think that's amazing when you have the charm, you know. 322 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: Because also, can I just say, guys, Yamatatura went out 323 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: of his way to do like a wide legged Gerald 324 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: from Witcher esque box sequence that has the girl. He's 325 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 1: ready in two days to be zooming in on the bar. 326 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: I've seen a part of Squill so the fact he 327 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: was able to play on the hunkiness and appeal while 328 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: also kind of making him feel so gross. I also 329 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: want to say I love Mia Goth's character in this 330 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: and I love her role because I think that they 331 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: make Elizabeth like, instead of being a foil to Victor, 332 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: she is his conscience. She is like, what the fuck 333 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: is wrong with you? At all points? 334 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: What are you doing? 335 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: And it's really enjoyable to see that. 336 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: I love that. Sorry, I'll just say quickly. And I 337 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: also love her relationship with the with the creature, two. 338 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: Of them together unbelievable. 339 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 5: You understand the romance, which is why you want the 340 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 5: rhyme guy. 341 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: Sense because also I think they do such a good 342 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: job of showing the ways Joel, like you said, Elizabeth 343 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: is wrapped up and kept in this cage of you know, 344 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: properness and arranged marriages and the way women have to behave. 345 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: She is the butterfly in the case. And then Frankenstein's monster. 346 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: He also gets to be in that space as a 347 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: more direct version of being in prison, being shaped by men. 348 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: And it makes so much sense at every point that 349 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: they connect with each other. And I personally love that. 350 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: Giammo was like, it's like one hundred and twenty years old, 351 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: Like I'm changing the ending, like yo, Gamma to Tori. 352 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 5: You can do that, change yeah, very quickly. 353 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 6: Where do we think this ranks among del Toro's films? 354 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 6: Are we top? Top three, middle bottom three? 355 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 4: Definitely top five For me, it's in the top five. 356 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 4: I still's good place. I know that Shape of Water 357 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 4: is controversial. I do love Shape of Water. 358 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: It's a great movie. 359 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 4: I think Pans Labyrinth is probably my top I would 360 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: put Shape of Water. I would put Crimson Peak a 361 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 4: number three for me. 362 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to put it. I'm also going to 363 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: put it in the top five, but I'm going to 364 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: solidly in the top five. 365 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I think it kind of shifts. 366 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: How about you, Joel, Yeah, I'm gonna go, uh top three. 367 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 6: I think I really really love this movie. 368 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 5: I think, you know, crim and Peaks not really for me. Uh, 369 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 5: even though it's we should rewatch beautiful, I will. But 370 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 5: I think he was really cooking and in his bag, 371 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 5: and like, if you've ever seen pictures of del Toro's place, 372 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 5: you're like, this is just your home, this is where 373 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 5: you live, sir. And to be able to project that 374 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 5: onto screen is great. I think if you can see 375 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 5: it in mood eaters, do it. If not, watch it 376 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 5: on your Netflix, make sure you watch it and support 377 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 5: it so Netflix knows that they should keep. 378 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 3: Giving chat is mad. We didn't shout out Hellboy too. 379 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 2: By the way, I love. 380 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: All Fam and Gray. I'm not gonna lie guys, Helboy 381 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: one and Helboy too. That's probably in my top five 382 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: with Kronos Pans, Labyrinth and this. I love Crimson Peak, 383 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: but I think this actually distills a lot of what 384 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: Crimson Peak did really well into a more accessible story. 385 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: I think there are so many kids who are gonna 386 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: watch this and be like, oh, I actually love Frankenstein is. 387 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 3: My favorite director, you know, like yeah, exactly. 388 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 2: Question to Carmen's note about the CG. Yeah, I recently 389 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 2: watched as I As I mentioned above, I recently watched 390 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: Catherine Bigelow's The Wonderful director Katherine Bigelow's A House of Dynamite, 391 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: A house made of dynamite. 392 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 8: I'm forgetting the exact wording, maybe. 393 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 2: And my my takeaway was nice thriller succession looks better 394 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: than this. And there were moments, and there were moments 395 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: when I was watching, when I was watching Frankenstein, where 396 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: I was like, this feels flat it yeah, yeah, visually 397 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: it looks like Netflix, like there's you know, so much 398 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: of del Torro's work is these rich dark shadows that 399 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: feels like you're getting you could get sucked into them, 400 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 2: creatures emerging from this darkness, and it just felt not 401 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: It just fell flat. Is does Netflix, like, what's the deal? 402 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: Do their movies just look kind of like shit? 403 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 5: And it just like, yeah, get you se thing of rules, 404 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 5: which we can maybe go over in a group chat 405 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 5: later because it's pretty in depth, specific cameras angles like yeah, 406 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 5: rules on light. The cinematography is so contained that a 407 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 5: lot of cinematographers refuse to work for Netflix because they 408 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 5: think it reduces the quality of their final like product. 409 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 5: I think Netflix has to come off of this, particularly 410 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 5: when it comes to like if you're going to continue 411 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 5: to hire these exquisite film directors like this look out 412 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 5: of their way, Like what are you doing? 413 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's stupid, especially with this movie. There are moments 414 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: when you're in the theater, you know, we also at 415 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: the Egyptian pretty much the only place you can see 416 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: it that it's not you know, Common saw it luckily 417 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: at her local there in Atlanta after it was not 418 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: there for a while. Like when you watch it on 419 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: the big screen, there are whole sequences and costumes where 420 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: you're like, yes, this is del Toro, del Toro at 421 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: his best, and then you get a couple of those 422 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: flat CGI Netflix shows scenes power explosion. It was very 423 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: It was way bigger, I think than it needed to be. 424 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: It looked more like it kind of may. 425 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 3: Remember when we had miniature and. 426 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: I love miniatures, and I think as well, like Del 427 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: Toro got so much of himself on the screen here. 428 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: Despite that, I think that might inspire other creatives. But 429 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: I also am interested. I want to hear Yama del 430 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: Tora talk about this in five years. I want to 431 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: know what the actual experience of making it was tell her, 432 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: because I bet that there was so many fights. Even 433 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: to cast a Laudie you know who said he just 434 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: cast him by his eyes. You know, that's a hard 435 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: thing to sell to execs. You know, look at his eyes. 436 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: There's a lot of folks that I've seen JACOBLORDI go, like, 437 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: I get it. 438 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 10: I agreed, but but I don't know if a Netflix 439 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 10: exact would necessarily go yes, his eyes are so soft 440 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 10: and beautiful. 441 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: Why are we covering the hunkiest guy on TV that 442 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: kids love all in makeup? You know? Like, I bet 443 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: there was a lot of conversations to be had, but 444 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: generally I loved it. I'm very happy for all the 445 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: girls who wanted to fuck ugly big Scar Bill Scar's 446 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: Gary too, because I feel like, now you guys have 447 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: a sexy monster to fuck like. You can get deranged, 448 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: unhinged monster fucking out in a way that's more romantic, 449 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: more sexual, more loving. You don't have to die at 450 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: the end. 451 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: Up next a discussion of Predator band lance and an 452 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 2: interview with the Predator himself. 453 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and we are back. I am bringing in 454 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: super producers Ian and Aaron to join me on the 455 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: planet of Genna, known as the Death Planet for their 456 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: thoughts on Predator bad Lands. 457 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 2: What up? 458 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: How are you doing? 459 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 8: Guys? 460 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 11: Pretty good? Pretty good? I enjoyed the movie, you know, 461 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 11: I thought it was pretty pretty fun. It was a 462 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 11: great It was a great like action pack pop corn film? 463 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 11: Did it like blow Me Away? Is it the best 464 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 11: movie I've ever seen? That's going a bit far. But 465 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 11: I really enjoyed it, and I think it did what 466 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 11: it needed to do for the franchise, in for Dan Trackenberg, 467 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 11: I think. But Aaron, what are your thoughts? 468 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: I'm curious, Aaron. I'm also interested because I would say 469 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: I bought my friend to this, who's not usually a 470 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: horror person, because it was PG thirteen, So I'm interested 471 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: in your non horror take on this. 472 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 8: I mean, I don't think this was a horror movie. 473 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 12: And I actually rewatched Predator one recently and much scarier. 474 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 12: That is, like the tension in that is so good 475 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 12: and so yeah, and look this story. I loved it 476 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 12: when it was called Mandalorian season one and when it 477 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 12: was recashed here it was like, Okay, yeah, it kind 478 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 12: of works. 479 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 8: Still, I thought the movie was fun. 480 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 12: My biggest issue with it was like, look, I think 481 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 12: the greatest villain in movie history maybe is the Raptors 482 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 12: in Jurassic Park and the t Rex and Jurassic Park. 483 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 12: I don't want to know anything about the t Rex 484 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 12: of the Raptors like that makes making them sympathetic. That 485 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 12: doesn't do it for me. That ruin not a Jurassic 486 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 12: World fani correct. 487 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 8: I don't wanteah blue. 488 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: I will say I think that's a bad point, but 489 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: I will also say something that I think that's a 490 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: true critique that I think people will have. Right. Yeah, 491 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: but I humanized honest about saying they always said from 492 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: the beginning, this is going to be about a young 493 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: predator called Deck played by Demetrius Schusta Columa TANGI who 494 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 1: I'm guessing they did not say that about the beginning, 495 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: but he was eventually cast trying to basically like prove 496 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: his worth. It's a protagonist predator, which we've never had before. 497 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: So for me, I was well set up for the 498 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: kind of choices the movie made. I will also say, well, 499 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: I really loved about it. Aside from the fact that 500 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: it's super colorful, super crazy. I really like that it's 501 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: very YA coded, and I know that's not necessarily gonna 502 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: be like a big draw for people, but I do 503 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 1: think it's very interesting that a movie like this, in 504 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: a franchise like this is taking. You couldn't say this 505 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: is a YA film. It doesn't fit into a lot 506 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: of the things it doesn't have, like a romance is 507 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: a central plot point, but there are a lot of 508 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: tropes and setups that they use that feel incredibly YA. 509 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: And I think that's also because both the el Fanning 510 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: character of thea who is this kind of idealistic but 511 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: broken wail on your tani bot, and then this young 512 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: predator named Deck who is the runt who is essentially 513 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: on this planet to prove that he's good enough to 514 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: be part of his clan. They are obviously on a 515 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: coming of age for sure, So that aspect worked really 516 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: well for me. Ian, what was the reaction, like what 517 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: cinema did you see it? And did you see in 518 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: Burbank or the Grove? I was surprised. 519 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 11: I didn't get a chance to so I. 520 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: Didn't see you. 521 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 8: I was Ian was cloaked when you came Ian was like. 522 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: Cloaked through the predating. Our audience was full of people laughing. Yeah, 523 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: this is a funny movie, a secretly funny. 524 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 2: There were a lot of. 525 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 11: Good funny moments, and you know, like, I think it's 526 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 11: a testament to to el Fanning in particular because you know, 527 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 11: obviously the Predator speaking in Yaucha the whole time, El 528 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 11: Fanning is speaking in English. But there were some good moments, 529 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 11: like at one point, even though the Predator does crack 530 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 11: a joke and el Fanning was like, wait, was that 531 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 11: like an attempt at humor? I didn't know you guys 532 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 11: had that in your culture, you know. So there are 533 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 11: way more funny moments than I was expecting. But I 534 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 11: think that goes to the bigger point that you made 535 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 11: about how it is very wyat coded. It's like this 536 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 11: coming of age story, and they really do a strong 537 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 11: job of humanizing the Predator, which is can be kind 538 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 11: of awkward at times because we're used to having them 539 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 11: be this you know, stalker, hunter killer, like and then 540 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 11: now all of a sudden they're cracking jokes and we're like, work. 541 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 8: When is it not awkward? 542 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 11: Yeah? 543 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 12: Like, because I personally I don't need predator making dras jokes, 544 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 12: you know, like. 545 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: Guess what I got news for you? As the cannon 546 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: head here in the room. Predator has often sided with 547 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: humans throughout. That's human AVP. I get it. You didn't 548 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: need like the comedy like version. 549 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 12: Of I don't want a predator to grieve, Like I 550 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 12: want the predator to be this scary, invisible thing that 551 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 12: is hunting you, and instead we get like, oh my 552 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 12: brother was cool, but like my dad's and you know, yeah, 553 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 12: but can I. 554 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: Just say something? You say, that's what you want. 555 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 10: But how many Predator movies have you watched where it's 556 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 10: exactly like that? 557 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 8: How many? I mean, so Predator one two? 558 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: Have you watched Predator two with? Get? 559 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 8: Yeah? 560 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 12: I mean, like I think the the part that well, 561 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 12: I mean even if you just go back to Dan's 562 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 12: previous two Prey and Killer of Killers, both of which 563 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 12: I thought were incredible pieces of work. Yes, they have 564 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 12: the Predator as this silent killer thing where we're focused 565 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 12: on other characters we care a lot about, which I 566 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 12: think they do a great job with it, Like I 567 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 12: would have loved this movie if but we're about something 568 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 12: other than a predator. 569 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: That's not the movie. 570 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 10: They literally were honest about, well, this movie was about 571 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 10: the entire time. 572 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 8: That's totally fine. 573 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 12: Like just because like I still saw it, that doesn't 574 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 12: mean I can't dislike it. I mean I still gave it, 575 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 12: Like you know, it's still like three out of five stars, 576 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 12: two and a half out of five. It's like it's 577 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 12: an enjoyable Yeah, it's an enjoyable, fun movie. I just 578 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 12: think like this hurt the lore in my mind more 579 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 12: than it helped. 580 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 11: Interesting. 581 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 8: It expanded on it in a way that I didn't enjoy. 582 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, ian expand because there is a 583 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: little better mansion here, which is why I think for 584 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: Predator fans, I actually think this may end up hitting 585 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 1: a sweet spot they want exactly. So. 586 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 11: I've rewatched both Predator and Predator two over the weekend 587 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 11: before I saw this movie, and I think it's pretty 588 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 11: clear that Dan Trachtenberg was heavily influenced by Predator two. 589 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 11: In particular, Predator two establishes the premise that, oh, the 590 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 11: Predators have been going to other planets for centuries, going 591 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 11: on these hunts. That we see the trophy room for 592 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 11: the first time in Predator two on the ship where 593 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 11: there's all these different skulls that comes back. That's a 594 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 11: very direct link in this movie. There's another trophy room, 595 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 11: the t Rex skull with the t Rex skull, you know, 596 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 11: there's a Xenomorph skull and Predator two. So they established 597 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 11: that link between the franchises very early on a little 598 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 11: wink in a nod, and then there's other nods to 599 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 11: the alien franchise as well. Here. Obviously Whalen Utani is 600 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 11: the biggest one, the censor from Whale and Utani, but 601 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 11: I love that it also just reinforces that Lauren legacy 602 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 11: of Whale Utah going tough these other alien planets to 603 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 11: try to collect life forms to use his weapons. 604 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: To exploit, exploit exactly. 605 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,479 Speaker 11: But then even like the loader fight at the end 606 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 11: was like a very clear nod to aliens. So it's 607 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 11: like a lot of fun little references in moments. But 608 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 11: I also like that it is a self contained story. 609 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 11: You don't need to have seen any of the other 610 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 11: movies to understand it. But yeah, definitely no, Yeah, there's 611 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 11: no homework involved. But I do like that we see 612 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 11: you know, more Yaucha Prime, the Home World, which we 613 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 11: saw a little bit of and Killer of Killers, so 614 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 11: you can tell, like Dan Trackenberg really wants to expand 615 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 11: that out, like what's the Yaucha culture? And you know, 616 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 11: we see this dynamic between the father and the son 617 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 11: and the brothers. 618 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 8: Don't expand that. 619 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 11: I mean, that's that's that's that's fair. I guess you 620 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 11: could say if you don't want to know more about 621 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 11: the culture and the history of this alien species. But 622 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 11: I mean, to your point, Aaron, I do agree, like, 623 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 11: especially after watching Predator and Predator two. For Predator especially, 624 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 11: I think the the vouch is only on screen for 625 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 11: like ten and it's total of that whole movie. 626 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 8: If that, Yeah, you know, the. 627 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 11: Majority of the tension and the horror comes from this unknown, unseen, 628 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 11: invisible stalker killing people one by one. And so obviously 629 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 11: you don't get any of that in this movie because 630 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 11: it's from the Predator's perspective. But you know, it's a 631 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 11: different movie, trying to tell a different kind of story, 632 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 11: but expanding the lore and the backstory of the after 633 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 11: because in Predator, you know, we don't know where the 634 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 11: hell this thing came from or why it's here. We 635 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 11: just know it's hunting these marines. 636 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: And also, like the original Predator is like a Vietnam analogue, right, 637 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: So you know, it's kind of always about how these 638 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: movies expand. I think, you know, forty years into this franchise, 639 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: I think this is a pretty great big swing movie 640 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: that for me, like I love Found Family, Aaron, it 641 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: definitely does have Mandalorian coding, but I think in a 642 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: way that is very positive. Like Mandalorian was just lone 643 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: wolphon Cob in space. You know, this is is what 644 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: if the Mandalorian wasn't just you know, a simple uh 645 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, killer for hire who, By the way, can 646 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: I say as well, many people did not want to 647 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: know more sure Mandalorian. 648 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 12: For sure, you have a villain as iconic as Boba 649 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 12: Fette that's so mysterious. 650 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 8: People were very nervous to learn more about him. Exactly. 651 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 12: I think it's like that's the same kind of vibe 652 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 12: I'm getting here, whereas I loved Mandalorian, Like. 653 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 8: For me, it works. 654 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: You know, I love Mandalorian too, But I would also say, 655 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: like for me, when this is kind of what we 656 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: talk about with Marvel stuff. But there's so many different 657 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: Predator movies, including you know, Predators and The Predator. I'm 658 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: a I'm a the predator. I'm a predators guy and 659 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: the predator, Hey, I think yes, like stylingator. Yes, yeah, 660 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: actually that one and and also very scary. So I think, 661 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: like Joelle put in the group chat, you know, this 662 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: is like a very different version of the Yaucher. So 663 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: I think it's actually an interesting way to expand the 664 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: law while not impacting the fact that all the other 665 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: predators are like the Wendy Williams style, the killer that 666 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: just like shows up and just kills you at any chance. Like, 667 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: I think this teaches us more about For example, something 668 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: I speak to Demetrius about in our interview is the language. 669 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 1: This is a Yaucher language. We've never heard it before. 670 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: In this way, they actually worked with the guy who 671 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: was I think the MENTI and kind of next in 672 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 1: line of the guy who created the Navy language. Which 673 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: is funny because I kind of think this has a 674 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: lot of Avatar coding, but is better. It's a very 675 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: Disney movie than James Cameron Disney Avatar. It's very it's 676 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: very Fox and you know what, I think it's pretty 677 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: incredible that Tracktenberg was able to make a movie as 678 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: unique as Prey and then follow it up with the 679 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 1: secret animated movie nobody knows and then go oh hey, 680 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: and here's the might make fifty million on opening weekend, 681 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: like everyone can see it PG thirteen version. But what 682 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: I is really cool is they don't get to a 683 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: PG thirteen version by not having action, not having killing. 684 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: They just set it on a planet that is so 685 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: alien that all the blood is neon the all the 686 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: animals you're killing and creatures you're killing are crazy. Now, 687 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: I will say I do think as well, guys, if 688 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: people liked all the creatures in Alien enough, this is 689 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: very that coded, it's very monster verse as well. 690 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 12: Yeah that was I was. I was a little down 691 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 12: on some of the creature usage too. That was one 692 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 12: of the things that in a way, the third act 693 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 12: I think is the weakest. Like I don't love that's fair. 694 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 12: I don't love the Predator going back to the ravine 695 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 12: and pulling out one berry and then suddenly snake worm 696 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 12: guy is his shoulder cannon and sacrifices himself like that. 697 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 12: Just some of that felt really rushed to me, and 698 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 12: I thought, yeah, his mask looks like Mankind the wrestler. 699 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 8: I was like, get that ship out of here. 700 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: Cool was cool, and I can't I believe you're such 701 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: a hate. 702 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 11: I do like that. You know, obviously they established this 703 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 11: is like the death Planet. There's all these different plants 704 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 11: and animals and creatures that will kill you at any chance. 705 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 11: He loses all his gear, and it is very on 706 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 11: the nose that he's like, oh, all these things that 707 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 11: I saw thirty minutes ago, I can use those as 708 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 11: my new weapons. So like it was a little on 709 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 11: the nose, but for the story, it makes sense. 710 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 8: Like, okay, a video game. 711 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: Are you on a video game? Because I will say both. 712 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 1: My friend who watched it, she's a harsh crik. She 713 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 1: did give it three out of five, which I thought 714 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: was pretty good, but she definitely said like it was 715 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: so video game coded. The points she wanted to play. 716 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: She was like, I want to play, I want to 717 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: see this kind of happen. I want to be involved 718 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: in it. And I actually wonder a little bit if 719 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: that might take people out of it because it is 720 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: very I think we've talked about this game before. I 721 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: don't know Ian if you've played it. I think Aaron, 722 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: you did play it, but has Horizon this Aro don 723 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: Zero Down or whatever. I played that game like non 724 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: stop when I got my PS five and this movie 725 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 1: is very coded to that. I yeah, I'm gonna I'm 726 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: gonna finish off. 727 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 2: Guys. 728 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me, Aaron, thanks for having a 729 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: hot Tays. 730 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 11: I have one more point than please. 731 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: I was gonna actually say, let's let's finish up with 732 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: like our final point on the movie and go for it. 733 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 11: My last thing is just in terms of the actual 734 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,720 Speaker 11: like asthetics and the way the Predator looked, I think, 735 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 11: especially coming right off of watching Predator and Predator two, 736 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 11: where it was all practical with the animatronic mask and everything. Obviously, 737 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 11: I'm sure some of the yaucha faces were practical, and 738 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 11: then they put CGI on top of it. In my opinion, 739 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 11: I think they went a little too far with the CGI. 740 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 11: It was like a little uncanny Valley, Like the Predators 741 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 11: were like too smooth and like polished looking. It didn't 742 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 11: have that same like grimy animatronic feel that especially in 743 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 11: Predator and Predator and Predator two had, So that was 744 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 11: like kind of my biggest complaint about the film. The 745 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 11: Predators like look too good and like too smooth. But 746 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 11: I will say a lot of emotion was carried through 747 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 11: the eyes, which was important, but yeah, the mouth and 748 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 11: the manibles and stuff, it just looked like too fake 749 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 11: to me. 750 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 12: Which kind of you have to do when you're when 751 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 12: this character goes from being on screen, like you said, 752 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 12: for ten minutes partially invisible and cloaked being the main character. 753 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 3: Yeah. 754 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 12: I actually kind of thought I was really pessimistic about 755 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 12: the look I thought from the trailers, and I thought 756 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 12: I enjoyed it, like the cig of the faces because 757 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 12: I felt like each of them looked unique at least, 758 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 12: which I really appreciate, Like he and his brother had 759 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 12: very different faces, which. 760 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 8: I was cool they did do that part work, Yeah, yeah, yes. 761 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: And I think as well, like so the actor played Deck, 762 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: he actually did bring he when they were recording it. 763 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: It was like all prostags and then his face and 764 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 1: they they mow capped his face and that's kind of 765 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: how you get more of the emotion and the expressory. Yeah, 766 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: because we often also don't see the face of the 767 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: predator until the end because their mask is so iconic, right, 768 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: So I do think there was a lot of things 769 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: hear that they attempted and tried differently, and for me, 770 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: the big swings like really work. So I'm really excited 771 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: to see how audiences react to it, and because the 772 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 1: critical response has actually been Pray good, which I wasn't 773 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: one hundred percent sure on because it is really different. 774 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, just really excited for people to see this. 775 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 12: You did this for the Guermo section before with Franken Sein. 776 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 12: Where does this ring for you? Between Pray and Killer 777 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 12: of Killers? 778 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: I think it's Prey, then This, then Killer of Killers. 779 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: I love Killer of Killers, but I love I really 780 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: thought it was just I think that this and Pray 781 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: are so good to showcase the differences between what you 782 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: can do in a shared universe rather than the Marvel 783 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: where everything feels the same and interchangeable. This is a 784 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 1: world where the predator of prey exists and the predator 785 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: of bad Lands exists, and it feels to me like 786 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: in a world where they're going to all these different 787 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,439 Speaker 1: planets and dealing with all these different prey, there would 788 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 1: be different worlds, you know. But Pray so one of 789 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: the coolest movies ever made, so still up there for me. 790 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 11: Yeah, of those three, I would put Prey at the top. 791 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 11: I really enjoyed Killer of Killers and that like anthology 792 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 11: way they did it, but it still ties into the 793 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 11: larger lore and it connects to some of the older films. 794 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 11: So I think I'll put that second. I'll put this 795 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 11: one third, not to say that it's a bad movie, 796 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 11: just compared to those other those other two are. 797 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 7: Just so good. 798 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 11: Yeah, So I would put it at third out of 799 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 11: those three. 800 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 12: Yeah, And I would say as oh yeah, er, I 801 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 12: mean same ranking as Ian Pray Pray is so good 802 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 12: and I love that so much, and it was so 803 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 12: scary and like so much tension in it, and so 804 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 12: that is one hundred percent the best way. 805 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: I believe that there are going to be Prey and 806 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: bad Lands double bills in the movie theater, So if 807 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 1: you did not get to see Prey in the movie thea. 808 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 12: Speaking of seeing it in the theater, what do you 809 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 12: think the box office takeaway from week one will be 810 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 12: for this? 811 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: My hopeful feeling is that it weigh over, proper forms 812 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: and makes like fifty mil. Because honestly, there has there 813 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: wasn't a big movie for Halloween. This is kind of 814 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: a good in between. It's kind of spooky, but it's 815 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: an action movie. Plus it's PG thirteen so everyone can 816 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: go and see it. And the Predator is known so 817 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go forty five to fifty hopeful Ian, how 818 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: about you? 819 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 11: Yeah, I think if it clears like forty, I think 820 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 11: that'll be a solid opening weekend. You know, it's you're 821 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 11: hard pressed to find a movie to crack that on 822 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 11: a consistent basis these days. But I think I think, 823 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 11: like a hmm, especially coming off of the success of 824 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 11: Prey and Killer of Killers, Dan Trackenberg is like kind 825 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,479 Speaker 11: of on a heater right now, So I think people 826 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 11: will be excited to see this. So yeah, I think 827 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 11: I think forty is like kind of a realistic, you know, 828 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 11: high end number. 829 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 8: It could it could hit. 830 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 12: I think it's going to be twenty million if that, 831 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,919 Speaker 12: I think you think sixty. Mad Max Firiosa couldn't even 832 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,720 Speaker 12: barely got twenty five million. 833 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 11: I nobody wanted to see that movie. 834 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, but you had two stars that you're like visibly seeing. 835 00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 1: So Mad Max Furiosa is, by the way, great movie, 836 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: insane movie, but super inaccessible. Like five minutes into that movie, 837 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: you know whether or not you're gonna like it. Five 838 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: minutes into this movie, audiences are given an emotional reason 839 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 1: to connect and an emotional storyline to follow. That is 840 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,280 Speaker 1: simple and understandable, and that I think is the difference. 841 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 8: Now will they get will they get into the theater 842 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 8: to get that? 843 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: That's the question. Well, what I love about this? And 844 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: let's end on this because this is gonna be really 845 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: fun to follow up on. Variety played it safe, predicting 846 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: twenty five mil and Deadline predicted sixty. So I just 847 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: feel like this is like nobody knows and that's very 848 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: exciting to me. 849 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 11: Yeah, we shall see. But overall, if you're a fan 850 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 11: of the Predator franchise in general, or you just like 851 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,919 Speaker 11: a good popcorn action movie, you will enjoy this, So 852 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 11: go give it a chance. Go check it out. 853 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,439 Speaker 1: Also, so you guys, you love in the discord Aaron's take, 854 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: So I want to hear your take on Aaron's take 855 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: in that discord. Go see it. 856 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 8: Do you agree with him? 857 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 13: Is he right? 858 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: Is he wrong? I think he's talking to a point 859 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,359 Speaker 1: that a law of Predator fans are gonna feel. But 860 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: my feeling is the movie overcomes it with its own 861 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: quality and kind of heart. So yeah, and afterwards, I 862 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: will be back with an interview with the star of 863 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: the movie, Dimitrius Schusta Kola Matangi, who is an incredible 864 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: young performer and one of the loveliest interviews we've had 865 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 1: in a while. So yeah, come back to that in 866 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 1: a minute. 867 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 13: Guys, Hey, how's it going. 868 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 7: It's going well today, fantastic. 869 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm doing good too. I'm excited to talk to you. 870 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 13: It's nice. 871 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 7: I'm excited to talk to you. 872 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: We love to talk about the people who actually make 873 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: movies happen, so it's like a really exciting thing to 874 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,399 Speaker 1: get to talk to someone who's not only the lead 875 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: but also a creature actor. So I would love to 876 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: start just by asking you, what's like your acting origin story? 877 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 13: Where did you. 878 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 7: Begin acting origin story? 879 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 14: I feel like I've always been a little bit of 880 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 14: an actor, you know, as a kid, just growing up. 881 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,720 Speaker 14: I just love entertaining people, you know, making people smile, 882 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 14: making people laugh, you know, whatever I can to just 883 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 14: brighten up someone's day. 884 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 7: I was always trying to do. 885 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,320 Speaker 14: But in terms of my professional acting career, I started 886 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 14: My first job was in twenty nineteen where I filmed 887 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 14: a little thing back in New Zealand. It was two 888 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 14: part series and I had like three scenes in it, 889 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 14: and I like died, But yeah, it was kind of 890 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 14: my introduction to the world of acting, you know, and 891 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 14: being on set, and from there it was just kind 892 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 14: of investing in myself, putting myself through you know, acting 893 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 14: courses here and there, trying to soak up as much 894 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 14: game as I could about the industry, and yeah, I 895 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 14: just kind of started climbing. 896 00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: And how does it feel then, like six years later, 897 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: to be, you know, the lead in this kind of franchise. 898 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 7: It's surreal. 899 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 14: If I'm honest, it's hasn't really sunk in fully. I 900 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 14: think everything's just been go, go go, so haven't had 901 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 14: time to just you know, stand back and smell the flowers. 902 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 14: But it's been honestly an amazing journey, you know, to 903 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 14: get here. It's hard at times trying to just hustle 904 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 14: as an actor, but yeah, it's very rewarding and you 905 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 14: learn a lot about yourself because. 906 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: You're also constantly just thinking about people, like all different 907 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: kinds of people, different kinds of humans. So then in 908 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 1: your head you're like, okay, so what am I? 909 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 14: But yeah, but that's such a fair point. I think 910 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 14: that's something that I really love about acting, is that 911 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 14: like learning the psychology of people, you know, and their behaviors, 912 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 14: what drives somebody to do what they do, why are 913 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 14: they the way they are? 914 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 7: And honing in on the why of everything? 915 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,399 Speaker 14: That was something that I kind of just take away now, 916 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 14: you know, in my life it's just you know, there's 917 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 14: always a reason behind something, There's a why to literally everything. 918 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 7: So you just got to navigate that. And yeah, I 919 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 7: didn't find out what's going on exactly. 920 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 1: But like, how so something like the panthers, you're drawing 921 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 1: from like real history, right about Polynesian panthers, and so 922 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 1: like something like that you can research, you can learn 923 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: when you're approaching something like that, who isn't necessarily human? 924 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: And the whole notion of this movie is like there's 925 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,240 Speaker 1: no humans, it's all alien. Yeah, how do you find 926 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: that character? What was that like for you? 927 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 14: A fantastic question and it was a very new process, 928 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 14: I guess for myself, not new in terms of I 929 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 14: guess how I was approaching character. 930 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 7: I feel like every story. 931 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 14: Is a story, you know, so as an actor, you 932 00:47:54,800 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 14: kind of see it from whatever perspective you're a you know, 933 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 14: whatever perspective of your characters, and that's how you try 934 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 14: and view the story. But yeah, getting into the psychology 935 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 14: of Yaucher you know, it was just literally learning the 936 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 14: Yaucher culture, you know, immersing myself and all of the 937 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 14: previous Predator installments, getting myself all these comics, just trying 938 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 14: to understand the deeper reason of you know, why do 939 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 14: they go on hunts? Why is hunting so big for them? 940 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 14: Is this like a I think they just love violence 941 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 14: or is it something you know what I mean? So 942 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 14: it was, yeah, just a lot of a lot of 943 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 14: time spent on just understanding what makes these creatures them 944 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 14: and then from there I was able to it was 945 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 14: able to inform everything else. 946 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:45,359 Speaker 1: You know. 947 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 14: It was yeah, knowing that they're they're worried spirits. You know, 948 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 14: they're from a long lineage and ancestry of hunters who 949 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 14: hunt for status. You know, this is how this is 950 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 14: their this is their money to them. You know, they're 951 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:04,720 Speaker 14: able to acquire so much prestige you know, on their hunts. 952 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 14: Suit with that, you know, you carry yourself differently, you 953 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 14: speak differently, your energy is different. 954 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 7: It's it's a whole process, you know, and. 955 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 14: It's a it's a little yeah, I love any I'm 956 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 14: sorry I could speak on little no. 957 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 13: I love it. 958 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:18,799 Speaker 7: Well. 959 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: We're very lucky because a lot of as our listeners 960 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 1: will know, like a lot of junket interviews are four 961 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,959 Speaker 1: minutes and we get twenty. So I'm not in life. 962 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 13: So I'm like you were talking, we got time exactly. 963 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 13: So I love. 964 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 1: That you went back and looked at kind of the 965 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: classics stuff because for so many people that's what you know, 966 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,359 Speaker 1: they grew up on and we're all but with Dan, 967 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,800 Speaker 1: he has done a great job of kind of reimagining 968 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 1: it with Prey and now if this kind of expanding 969 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 1: the law. When you were looking back at those comics 970 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: or the movies, was there something that surprised you or 971 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: like struck you about the predator kind of law or 972 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,720 Speaker 1: the space that you were stepping into. 973 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,360 Speaker 14: I think one aspect of the predator law that I 974 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 14: was intrigued by was the fact that so the reason 975 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 14: they take trophies they used to be enslaved, like yeah, 976 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,399 Speaker 14: like years and years and years ago, so they were 977 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 14: able to overthrow their presses by you know, hunting them down, 978 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 14: and the first trophy they took was off of their 979 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 14: masters that were enslaving them. So I was like, man, yeah, 980 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 14: it's a deep like thing that they still carry on, 981 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 14: you know, to this day. It's something that pays homage 982 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 14: to those who went before them. So I was like, 983 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 14: I'm even getting goosebumps thinking about it right now. 984 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 2: You know. 985 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 14: It's such a powerful aspect to their to their characters, 986 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 14: and yeah, it was. That was a cool thing that 987 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 14: I learned about them. So yeah, just finding all those 988 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 14: kind of little nuggets and also understanding that, like you said, 989 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 14: Dan is taking the franchise into a whole new realm. 990 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 14: You know, He's breathing a whole new life into these characters. 991 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 14: So I didn't I didn't want to just copy and 992 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 14: paste you know what has been done. You know, I 993 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 14: had to do my research in terms of understanding what 994 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 14: made these characters iconic in the first place, Why did 995 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,919 Speaker 14: people fall in love with these characters and use those 996 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 14: elements while also injecting my own unique energy and my 997 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,439 Speaker 14: own unique storytelling abilities into these characters, because yeah, it's 998 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,720 Speaker 14: Dick's character himself was unique. 999 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 1: You know, what I was gonna say is a totally 1000 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 1: different version. Like we often see the predator, who is 1001 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: the titular predator, right, but the whole pitch with this 1002 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: that Dan's always been getting people excited with this, Well, 1003 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: now the Predator is hunted, right, So what does that 1004 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: look like and what does it mean to get to 1005 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 1: be you know, rooting for the predator. Though throughout the 1006 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 1: movies that does happen, especially in like AVP and stuff 1007 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: like that. You know, like we do occasionally root for 1008 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: the predator. But what was that like? Like having to 1009 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,799 Speaker 1: find this kind of heart and journey because this is 1010 00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 1: not a Deck is not somebody who is respected as 1011 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 1: a hunter or recognized as a hunter, and he has 1012 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 1: to really go on a journey of earning that in 1013 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: a way we haven't seen other predators kind of do. Yeah, 1014 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: could you talk a little bit about building that? 1015 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 14: Yeah, So that was even cool to explore because all 1016 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 14: of the previous predator films we've seen these like these 1017 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 14: predators are already blooded, so bloods. You know, they've already 1018 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 14: left their yaut Prime. They've already gone and you know, hunted, 1019 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,720 Speaker 14: and they've they've already established themselves within their own clans. 1020 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 14: Deck has never left Yauch Prime. He has you know, 1021 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 14: never even seen the outside of his home. So with that, 1022 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 14: he's already not like he has that naivety about him, 1023 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 14: you know, he he he thinks he knows like everything, 1024 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 14: he thinks he is the best hunter, and as you should, 1025 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,760 Speaker 14: you should always believe that you're the best. But without 1026 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 14: the experience, you know, there's always that undertone of man, 1027 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:02,240 Speaker 14: can I really do? And with Dick being the underdog 1028 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 14: and being the runt of his family, it just adds 1029 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 14: more motivation, you know, it pushes him into a whole 1030 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:16,439 Speaker 14: different realm where he not coming across defensively, but yeah, 1031 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 14: he has something to prove, he has a point to prove. 1032 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 14: All these other predators we've seen, you know, they've they've 1033 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 14: already proven, you know, so they they walk in a 1034 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 14: different kind of like their energy is different, whereas when 1035 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 14: you're trying. 1036 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,399 Speaker 7: To prove yourself, you're you're up. 1037 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 14: You know you You're That's all you can think about, 1038 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 14: That's all that's on your mind. Then embodying that was 1039 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 14: intense at times. It's emotionally draining. 1040 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 7: A little bit. But yeah, we had ways to, Yeah, just. 1041 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 14: Make him as authentic as we could, you know, and 1042 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,839 Speaker 14: have people relate to the themes of what he's he's 1043 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:55,399 Speaker 14: going through. 1044 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say, like you talked a 1045 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 1: lot about finding your own in you are also coming 1046 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 1: from a place where you've only been acting for like 1047 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 1: six years, which is a long time, right, It is 1048 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: a long time, and it's like but in that way, 1049 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 1: you're kind of like Deck because then you're coming into 1050 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 1: this and you have to prove yourself as well as 1051 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 1: like a leading man as a creature actor, which was like, 1052 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: is that something you ever expected? 1053 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 14: This is the first Yeah, never done creature acting or 1054 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 14: acting as a non human. 1055 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, were you able to bring like your own experience 1056 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,320 Speaker 1: of moving up into this new kind of Hollywood space 1057 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,879 Speaker 1: and bringing your drive and showing people what you could 1058 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: do two Deck's character? 1059 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, of course. 1060 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 14: I think as an actor, you have to use your 1061 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 14: own experiences, you know, to inform your characters and find 1062 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 14: ways that you can make. 1063 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 7: It real for yourself so that. 1064 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 14: Others can, you know, find that realness you know within 1065 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,279 Speaker 14: it as well. So you know, like you said, I've 1066 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 14: always just felt like an underdog in general growing up. 1067 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 14: I've never been like instantly good at anything, Like I've 1068 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 14: had to work, you know, to make sure that I'm 1069 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 14: at least operating at the same level or above, you know, 1070 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 14: as the people around me. So that was something that's 1071 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,880 Speaker 14: just natural for me to try and outwork you know, 1072 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 14: everyone around me. Because I have to work a little 1073 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 14: bit harder to even you know, be on the same 1074 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,400 Speaker 14: level as some people. So I think using those kind 1075 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,399 Speaker 14: of experiences. I'm also Polynesian, and you know, we come 1076 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,840 Speaker 14: from a lineage of warriors. You know, we embody the 1077 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 14: spirit of warriors. So even using those aspects that I've 1078 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,799 Speaker 14: always had growing up and filtering that into Dick in 1079 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,360 Speaker 14: a way that is still coming across as like Yaucher, 1080 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 14: you know, but it comes from a place of truth. 1081 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 14: I think it's it's very important, and it makes it 1082 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 14: feel authentic and people can appreciate the realness of that. 1083 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,399 Speaker 14: You know, it just adds texture to your character, and yeah, 1084 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 14: I feel like you can really see that. 1085 00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,719 Speaker 1: Absolutely and you get to kind of have this this 1086 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,280 Speaker 1: kind of double act with you know, al and having 1087 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 1: I believe on the back you were actually carrying her. 1088 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,879 Speaker 1: Could you talk a little bit about the physicality of 1089 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 1: this performance too, because obviously there's a lot emotionally that 1090 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 1: you were able to connect to and bring and bring 1091 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 1: that kind of underdog spirit. But with out what was 1092 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 1: that like, because that again is a completely different way 1093 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: of acting. 1094 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a lot. I think honestly, it was 1095 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 7: just understanding each scene for what it was. 1096 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,359 Speaker 14: And why we are doing each you know, why we're 1097 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 14: doing what we're doing. 1098 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,280 Speaker 7: And then yeah, it was really like new. 1099 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 14: To me acting with someone but not seeing them or 1100 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 14: like fate, like we're talking away from each other, you know, 1101 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 14: so you're not actually like connecting here. So even that 1102 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,959 Speaker 14: element of it was quite interesting what we were able 1103 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,359 Speaker 14: to kind of do with that because she's in her 1104 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,720 Speaker 14: own world, you know, thinking about what he is thinking about, 1105 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,400 Speaker 14: and then I'm in my world with my mission, and 1106 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,279 Speaker 14: it's kind of it felt honestly like you know how 1107 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,320 Speaker 14: you have those the demon and the angel on your shoulders, 1108 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 14: That's what it felt like. She was like that voice 1109 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:13,319 Speaker 14: in the back of my ear. 1110 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 7: She was my. 1111 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 14: Conscience selling me I don't think you should go there, 1112 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 14: or like, you know, doing all that little stuff. 1113 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 7: And Dick's just on his own kind of path. 1114 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 14: But yeah, it was it was a cool, like challenge, 1115 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 14: you know, to to do that, because. 1116 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 7: I feel like there was a lot of things that 1117 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 7: were quite challenging. 1118 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 1: I bet it sounds like it was a really challenging 1119 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 1: big project. 1120 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 14: Yeah, a little, But like like I said, all of 1121 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 14: those challenges, I guess I was just using to inform 1122 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 14: you know, more of my character. You know, it would 1123 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 14: be hot in the suit and uncomfortable. You can't really 1124 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 14: move properly, so you had to really fight to you know, 1125 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 14: stay in the scene, stay performing, you know. And it 1126 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 14: was Yeah, it literally just worked with how Dick is 1127 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 14: so it made sense exactly. So I was just trying 1128 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 14: to use as much as I could and not see 1129 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 14: it as a distraction or see it as hard, you know, 1130 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 14: but see it as this is how it is, let's 1131 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 14: roll with it. 1132 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you you mentioned this your first time doing 1133 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 1: non human acting. Did you find like, is that something 1134 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 1: you're excited to pursue? Like do you now have dreams 1135 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 1: of playing like Frankenstein's monstyle creature from the back lagoon? Like? 1136 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 1: Did it allow something a different side of your acting 1137 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 1: to come out? 1138 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 14: I'll be honest, I think it expanded my skill set 1139 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 14: in terms of an actor, and it gave me a 1140 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 14: lot of confidence in terms of knowing that, yeah, like 1141 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 14: it will take a lot to pull me out of 1142 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 14: a scene, you know, it will take a lot to 1143 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 14: kind of get me to a place where I'm like, nah, 1144 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 14: I can't do this, Like that was something I really 1145 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 14: valued from getting out of this. But yeah, in terms 1146 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 14: of playing other, I honestly just love story. I love 1147 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 14: stories and I love characters. Even being Polynesian, you know, 1148 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 14: we ire storytelling. We were from a generation of orators, So. 1149 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 7: I just I'm invested in whatever the story is. 1150 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 14: So yeah, if there's a character where the story is 1151 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 14: written and you know, yeah, and the characters as layered 1152 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,520 Speaker 14: and has a bit of new once to them, you know, 1153 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 14: it's exciting. You know, it's a story that should be 1154 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 14: told with you know, messages that people can relate to. 1155 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 14: You know, people can watch and just forget about their 1156 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 14: lives for now and a half or two hours, you know, 1157 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,840 Speaker 14: and just fully be prison You know, those are things 1158 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,360 Speaker 14: that I want to I want to work on it 1159 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 14: and be a part of. 1160 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the best the stuff. 1161 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 13: We all need an escape exactly. 1162 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 7: It's a crazy time in this world. So it's it's 1163 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 7: always good. 1164 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,120 Speaker 1: It definitely is okay. So is there a moment that 1165 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,680 Speaker 1: you're most now you know people are seeing it and stuff. 1166 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 1: Is there a moment you're most excited for people to 1167 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 1: see on screen? 1168 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 7: Oh, like a particular scene. 1169 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 1: Or it can be like a character, be a scene, 1170 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 1: a stunt you really work hard on like whatever, feeling 1171 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 1: like they you can't wait for people to see on 1172 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 1: that big screen. 1173 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 14: I think the first act is like something that I'm 1174 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 14: really proud of as an actor, but also in terms 1175 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 14: of this story. It informs literally everything that you know 1176 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 14: about the. 1177 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,360 Speaker 1: Most we've ever seen of the Predator like space and 1178 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 1: yeah and world, so it's totally unique in that way. 1179 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 14: Yeah, so I'm excited for I guess the Uji Predator fans, 1180 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 14: you know, you've been like craving a story like this 1181 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 14: where they get to see, you know, the like multiple 1182 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 14: predators on their planet, hear the language. 1183 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 1: People are so excited about that. Like Reddit people are 1184 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 1: just like I've been writing fan canons of Future Bride 1185 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:48,240 Speaker 1: my whole. 1186 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 13: Life, you know, So I think you're right. 1187 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 1: I think people are gonna love that. 1188 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 14: It's so funny because just from the trailers, I've had 1189 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:58,720 Speaker 14: people messaging me like trying to translate the language already 1190 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 14: and asking me like like writing out a sentence. There 1191 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 14: was literally a message I got the other day were 1192 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,440 Speaker 14: like he wrote a Yaucher sentence and it was pretty 1193 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 14: much perfect, And I was looking at it like maybe 1194 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,080 Speaker 14: it hasn't even come out, you bro, how are you 1195 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:12,280 Speaker 14: even speaking the language? 1196 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:13,720 Speaker 7: Like, what the heck? 1197 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 14: So it's it's so cool to see like people so 1198 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 14: invested and like loving, you know, the character and the 1199 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,000 Speaker 14: whole franchise. 1200 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,720 Speaker 7: So yeah, I'm excited for them too. 1201 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 13: Amazing, and I'm excited for you. Congratulations, this is. 1202 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 7: Gonna be Thank you so much. 1203 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 1: Just start really exciting stuff. 1204 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 13: I think it's a really special memorod. 1205 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 7: I appreciate that so much. 1206 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 2: And we're back. Let's wrap up by sharing one thing 1207 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 2: we're all excited to read, play, watch, or listen to 1208 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 2: this weekend. Let's start with Carmen. 1209 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 4: Carmen, Well, I I'm the last person on the XRV 1210 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 4: crew that has yet to see Pretator bad Land. Well, 1211 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,280 Speaker 4: actually that's not true. Jason hasn't seen it. So I'm 1212 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 4: going to see it this weekend. Yes, I'm very pumped 1213 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 4: seeing it tomorrow. 1214 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Joelle, I've been working on growing my vinyl collections, 1215 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:18,080 Speaker 5: so do Wism just came in, So I think I'm 1216 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,440 Speaker 5: going to be listening to this front to back a 1217 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:27,439 Speaker 5: fantastic life changing album. Oh yeah, Ericado by Doism isn't 1218 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,000 Speaker 5: titled Yeah, classic classic Ian. 1219 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,440 Speaker 11: I've been on a big cyberpunk twenty seventy seven Kick 1220 01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 11: Lately and never beat the game when it originally came out, 1221 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,480 Speaker 11: and so I've been playing a lot of it in 1222 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,880 Speaker 11: the past few weeks. I'm playing on PC, so I 1223 01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,959 Speaker 11: just got deep into modding. It's like a completely different game. 1224 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 11: So I'm I'm super into it, and uh, I'm probably 1225 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,280 Speaker 11: gonna play a lot of that this weekend. Yes, Jason, 1226 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 11: we can make the titdy jiggle physics jokes like whatever. 1227 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 5: Yes, it's not those kind of mins. 1228 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 1: We got to see them on, so I want to 1229 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 1: see them on. 1230 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 2: Aaron. 1231 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 12: I have been playing ad Hoc's new game, Dispatch, which 1232 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 12: is a like storytelling game by ad Hoc came from 1233 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:22,520 Speaker 12: basically the bones of Telltale, and uh, this game is incredible. 1234 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:27,120 Speaker 12: You play a superhero dispatcher and you have a number 1235 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 12: of heroes on your roster. You make decisions, you lose 1236 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 12: some heroes, you gain some heroes that the voice cast 1237 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 12: is incredible. It is Aaron Paul is the main character. 1238 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 12: Jeffrey Wright is your like former Wow hero friend. You 1239 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 12: have Laura Bailey Recession Indicator from Critical Role, and then 1240 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,680 Speaker 12: the voice cast that he also has some of my 1241 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 12: favorite like content creators like Joel Haver, who's my favorite 1242 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,160 Speaker 12: YouTube creator, is one of the characters, which is great. 1243 01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,760 Speaker 12: And episodes five and six came out Wednesday, the fifth 1244 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,919 Speaker 12: and episode seven and eight Final Things come out next week. 1245 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:05,040 Speaker 8: The game is incredible. 1246 01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 12: I highly recommend anyone who is interested in like not 1247 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,760 Speaker 12: an action packed game, but a storytelling game. 1248 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 8: It is so good. I love it. 1249 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 5: I've been watching some of the contints on social It's 1250 01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 5: so good. It's really funny, filthier than I thought it 1251 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:17,840 Speaker 5: would be. 1252 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,960 Speaker 12: Yes, it is, it is. It is funny and it 1253 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 12: is uh there. You can choose to censor things and 1254 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 12: like very famously. The first episode opens with you fighting 1255 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:33,000 Speaker 12: a super villain and uh just he just hangs dong 1256 01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 12: like real early on. 1257 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:48,360 Speaker 1: Okay, Aaron, I love he's hanging. I will be I 1258 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 1: will be comboing. Oh wow, the jiggle. 1259 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,920 Speaker 3: What are the physics like on that hand? 1260 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 1: Jiggle physics? Don't, Aaron, that's good idea boo. I'm in 1261 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 1: do it's retracing on the dog. I will be watching 1262 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,640 Speaker 1: probably a lot of anime I'm doing. I'm putting together 1263 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,200 Speaker 1: a couple of different big lists for IGN as we 1264 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 1: head to the end of the year, so I'm going 1265 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 1: to be watching a lot of anime from this year 1266 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,200 Speaker 1: again and a lot of anime that's coming out next year, 1267 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,000 Speaker 1: and I'm very excited about that. 1268 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 8: Are looking forward to next. 1269 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 1: I will I'm probably most looking forward to like returning series, 1270 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 1: so we will get a new series of Apocryphy Diaries, 1271 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 1: which I love. We are going to have a new 1272 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 1: Ghost in the Shell made by Science Saru, who are 1273 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,439 Speaker 1: just coming off Standard AD, so I'm really excited about that. 1274 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 1: We are also going to have like Oscehi Noco, and 1275 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 1: some of the bigger breakouts are coming back with sequel 1276 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,200 Speaker 1: seasons this next year. So it's going to be a 1277 01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 1: really good year for anime and I will be at 1278 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,240 Speaker 1: ign with the best of this year anna working on 1279 01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,480 Speaker 1: the most anticipated for next year, So watching lots of 1280 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 1: anime and reformatting my screenplay because guys, guess what. I 1281 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:07,919 Speaker 1: bought Final draft pro for my stream writing. 1282 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 8: I did it. 1283 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,040 Speaker 1: I did it. I'm very proud, and I formatted my 1284 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 1: whole script. I did. I wrote the script and then 1285 01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 1: I got a message back from my screenwriting teacher today 1286 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,680 Speaker 1: and she was like, congratulations on having a script that 1287 01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 1: has never been formatted like this by anyone before, and 1288 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,720 Speaker 1: I was like, what, how did this happen? So I 1289 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 1: will be re I will be trying again on final car. 1290 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,480 Speaker 1: It's a lot of a learning curve, guys, but get it. 1291 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,479 Speaker 1: It is if you want it. It was on sale. 1292 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 1: I got it like one hundred and twenty to have it. 1293 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:38,800 Speaker 1: You gotta have it. 1294 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,280 Speaker 2: You gotta say like I've There are other you'll often 1295 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 2: see these other like free or browser based ones. Sadly, 1296 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,680 Speaker 2: it's so hard to format in the way people want 1297 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,680 Speaker 2: the format without final draft, you're just gonna need it. 1298 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1299 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,600 Speaker 1: Also, I was using I was using the mac jupe 1300 01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,720 Speaker 1: called Highland two and they update and lost like three 1301 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:05,160 Speaker 1: of my finished scripts, so it was, yeah, it was 1302 01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,480 Speaker 1: it was time to go. Luckily they were just made 1303 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 1: for TV movie scripts that I have done a lot 1304 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 1: of work on, so it should be easy to rewrite. 1305 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 1: But yes, guys, I will be doing that too, so 1306 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 1: fun homework. And also you know, watching a lot of anime, 1307 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 1: so can't really complain. It's gonna be a good weekend. 1308 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:23,880 Speaker 6: Well, I have to. 1309 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 2: I have to deliver a draft of my book December first, 1310 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 2: a revised draft that I'm working on now. So since 1311 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,800 Speaker 2: we're talking about apps. Let's talk about the Ulysses app, 1312 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 2: which is what I write in across all my Apple platforms, 1313 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 2: and it's great. I write my podcast scripts in there, 1314 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,840 Speaker 2: I write my podcast outlines in there. You can you know, 1315 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:49,080 Speaker 2: organize everything by different folders, which I do. You can 1316 01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,960 Speaker 2: set like a word count, a daily word count goal, 1317 01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,240 Speaker 2: which was very helpful to me earlier on in the 1318 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 2: book writing process, Like I would set it for like 1319 01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,360 Speaker 2: three pages of like anything, and as long as I 1320 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,480 Speaker 2: hit that, like, I felt good. I think it's a 1321 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:05,720 Speaker 2: great app. It's I was previously using I a Writer 1322 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:11,680 Speaker 2: until it nuked all of my work somehow, and Ulysses 1323 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 2: has not done that. Kno cost scares, although that was 1324 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,479 Speaker 2: my own thing. So I'm just gonna be writing in 1325 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:21,360 Speaker 2: the Ulysses app. 1326 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:26,000 Speaker 3: This this these apps have. Do they not have Cloud backup? Story? 1327 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,799 Speaker 2: They do, but it's often an issue. 1328 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,599 Speaker 1: It's often impacted when they lose it. It's like they like. 1329 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:36,800 Speaker 2: If you so like if you update iOS or a 1330 01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 2: new version of Apple comes out right and then there's 1331 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,559 Speaker 2: some sort of lag in the updating to cloud and 1332 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,719 Speaker 2: then now the versions are different, and if you open 1333 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:52,480 Speaker 2: your Ulysses on your desktop, that isn't on the updated 1334 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 2: like operating system, and then you open it on your 1335 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 2: laptop and now there's an issue between the two and 1336 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 2: that's how it can happen. Off that said, despite the scares, 1337 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,160 Speaker 2: Ulysses has not ever fully shit the bed on me 1338 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,040 Speaker 2: in a way that was not recoverable, So I appreciate. 1339 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,640 Speaker 1: That also, guys, seeing as Jason is working on a 1340 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,840 Speaker 1: book that you can actually pre order, which my book 1341 01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:15,759 Speaker 1: has not been announced yet. It is in the Monster 1342 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,160 Speaker 1: Kaiju space, so that's great. But Jason's book that he 1343 01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,080 Speaker 1: is working on right now is called Sad Androids and 1344 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,120 Speaker 1: you can pre order it. And I have read some 1345 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,280 Speaker 1: of it and it's so good, So pre order that book. 1346 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:27,679 Speaker 8: Pre order that book. 1347 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,360 Speaker 2: That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening to this 1348 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,680 Speaker 2: episode of XRGC. 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