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Speaker 1: And uh, I think we had a really good show yesterday.
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Speaker 1: mid year review. We got some more questions for you guys.
Speaker 1: Questions had me last night at home thinking I could
Speaker 1: I could have I could, Yeah, I could have. I
Speaker 1: sec It was the Quinn that one for me. It
Speaker 1: hurt me, hurt me. The funny thing is, that's why
Speaker 1: I don't send the rundown for stuff like this, is
Speaker 1: because I want to get you. I want to get
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Speaker 1: third segment. Eight eight eight eight five five two two
Speaker 1: ninety seven is our number. Let's start first with Yesterday
Speaker 1: was the day that the NFL I had this deadline
Speaker 1: for trades. Uh, it went, came and went, and the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: no how disappointed were you guys that the Cowboys didn't
Speaker 1: make a move? I can't. I don't know. I guess
Speaker 1: I was a little like disappointed just because of all
Speaker 1: the conversation. But then like when I rationalized it, I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I mean because you gotta get
Speaker 1: over it. I mean, like there's nothing a deadliness, a deadline, right,
Speaker 1: So at this point, I'm like, all right, this is
Speaker 1: what you got. Let's keep working like us. That's how
Speaker 1: I work. Sorry, without I was slightly disappointed as well,
Speaker 1: especially you know, after I heard all the you know,
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooke situation going on between the Cowboys and the
Speaker 1: Texans and how it came down to the last minute.
Speaker 1: Not sure if that really how it went down, but
Speaker 1: I was slightly disappointed because we talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 1: And you know, with these wide receivers, Okay, you got
Speaker 1: CD Lamb, but if anything, you know, God forbid anything
Speaker 1: ever were to happen to CD Lamb, I mean that
Speaker 1: wide receiver corp. You're talking about, Noah Brown, you know,
Speaker 1: a gallup coming off acl Turpin who hasn't really you
Speaker 1: know ingratiated himself into this offense yet, so to me,
Speaker 1: you know, Cooks would have been that perfect guy to
Speaker 1: come in here and do things. But it went, and
Speaker 1: it came, and it went and nothing happened. So I
Speaker 1: guess they're satisfied with what they got on the outside,
Speaker 1: and hopefully this team can take the most, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the most of it. Yeah. I think that's the key
Speaker 1: right there, is if everything goes according to plan, if
Speaker 1: everybody stays healthy, then you might be okay. That's that's
Speaker 1: the part that worries me. You got a lot of ifs,
Speaker 1: and then you might be okay. Um and and and
Speaker 1: so you just at this point, you're just crossing your
Speaker 1: fingers and hoping that these guys stay healthy. You're hoping
Speaker 1: that they continue to build on that development that they've
Speaker 1: or some of that that success that they saw last week.
Speaker 1: You hope that these tight ends stay healthy as well,
Speaker 1: because they supplement that wide receiving corps um and that's
Speaker 1: a good I think there. They are strength of this team.
Speaker 1: So you're you're hoping on a lot of things. Hope
Speaker 1: it's not a strategy. Open on a lot of things
Speaker 1: right now, and we'll see how it goes down the stretch.
Speaker 1: It's really interesting because when you start thinking about the NFC,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about this a little later. One
Speaker 1: of the questions I have for you guys what you
Speaker 1: think about the NFC. And people talk to say it's
Speaker 1: wide open. I don't know that it's necessarily wide open,
Speaker 1: because you do have some teams right there at the
Speaker 1: top that are pretty good. Trying to be Philadelphia is
Speaker 1: going to be a challenge, Minnesota is going to be
Speaker 1: a challenge. And I tend to believe one of those teams,
Speaker 1: whether it's Green Bay, Tampa Bay, somebody we're not talking
Speaker 1: about right now, it has one of those all world
Speaker 1: quarterbacks is gonna get hot at some point the figure
Speaker 1: it out, right, And does Green Bay get hot the
Speaker 1: week you play them next week? Right? So there are
Speaker 1: all those things you gotta factor into this. And I
Speaker 1: just don't think the NFC is just as wide open
Speaker 1: as everybody says it is. It may not be as
Speaker 1: top heavy as as AFC, where you got those two
Speaker 1: top teams there, but it's definitely has some challenges and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are gonna need some help to get there.
Speaker 1: I think, without a doubt, like you said, it's not
Speaker 1: as wide open as people would come to think about
Speaker 1: it because there's some bad matchups for the Cowboys, and
Speaker 1: I can think of three off the top of my head.
Speaker 1: You're looking at Philly, who they've already gone against. They
Speaker 1: can run the ball extremely well, and we all know
Speaker 1: that's kind of the Achilles heel of this Dan and
Speaker 1: Quinn defense is allowing the rush. I think they're what
Speaker 1: twentieth or twenty first in the league against the run,
Speaker 1: so they gotta fix that. So Philly to me, is
Speaker 1: a bad matchup. Then you also look at what they're
Speaker 1: doing in Minnesota. They got Delvin Cook out there. Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins is having one of his best seasons as a
Speaker 1: professional so far, so to me, that's a bad matchup
Speaker 1: as well. And they can play defense a little bit
Speaker 1: over that they can't get after the exactly and a
Speaker 1: team that's you know right now, they're in the middle.
Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna catch a little bit. It's
Speaker 1: a San Francisco forty nine year they had last year,
Speaker 1: and they got CMC out there. He's starting to do
Speaker 1: his thing. They can run the football as well, and
Speaker 1: they're a hard nosed defense. We've seen that gives the
Speaker 1: Cowboys problems in the past, so it's not as wide
Speaker 1: open as you would think. There's some teams that have
Speaker 1: bad matchups for the Dallas Cowboys. Let's look forward to
Speaker 1: see what they can do against them. Now, you definitely
Speaker 1: name some of the teams that I've been looking at
Speaker 1: and just kind of how when you start when you
Speaker 1: look at Minnesota, forty nine ers know who they are,
Speaker 1: they have an identity. You look at Minnesota, they look
Speaker 1: like they're starting to find their identity again because offensively,
Speaker 1: I feel like they've been very up and down the
Speaker 1: last couple of years. And then also too you start
Speaker 1: talking about green Bay in those places. I mean, granted,
Speaker 1: I right now when you look at what's happening with
Speaker 1: some of these teams that they also are in this
Speaker 1: place where their wide receivers are young and they're trying
Speaker 1: to develop their team. So you are looking to see
Speaker 1: if they start figuring things out later in the season
Speaker 1: as you know, these players develop. But when you start
Speaker 1: talking about getting into December, it's about to start looking
Speaker 1: crazy for a lot of teams, because when it gets cold,
Speaker 1: a lot more guys get injured. Like your muscles feel different,
Speaker 1: your body feel different, like when it starts getting cold,
Speaker 1: and those like also when you start talking about the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in the November, you know, they have that stretch
Speaker 1: where it's like what like three games like twentelve days
Speaker 1: or something like that. So health I think in this
Speaker 1: time of the year is what's going to really start
Speaker 1: making the difference with what we're going to see this
Speaker 1: NFC shape out too, because everything's grave with a lot
Speaker 1: of these teams right now. All nobody heard everybody fine, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: let's see in a couple of weeks of seeing a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks with everything is starting to pan out
Speaker 1: to look like yeah, and let's not forget about Seattle
Speaker 1: as well. I forgot to throw them. It's up there.
Speaker 1: He's doing. Nobody expected it. That's why nobody's talking about it.
Speaker 1: But they are quietly. They got a good defense. Their
Speaker 1: defense is good. Geno's playing good ball. Obviously, he's got
Speaker 1: those two receivers out there. They also can run the
Speaker 1: ball like this. There's a lot of things about that
Speaker 1: team that should make you a little bit concerned. DA
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, let me ask you guys this question. Last week,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys make their move as far as a trade
Speaker 1: is concerned. They get Jonathan Hankins and I think we
Speaker 1: all agreed Jonathan Hankins was a nice additional for the team.
Speaker 1: Do you think we'd have a different opinion of what
Speaker 1: they did at the deadline if they'd have made that
Speaker 1: move yesterday as opposed to last week. No, people are
Speaker 1: still because well I'm not talking about general fans, because
Speaker 1: general fans they're never gonna be happy. We know that
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be happy. We know that. You ask him,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm saying, you guys, would would you? And
Speaker 1: both you guys said you were a little disappointed. I
Speaker 1: also was a little disappointed yesterday they to make a move.
Speaker 1: But would you have felt differently if Hankins would have
Speaker 1: happened yesterday? I mean maybe, I guess. I mean, because
Speaker 1: they're addressing they are actively addressing a need, like a
Speaker 1: real obviously a real need. So it's like but I guess,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously everyone is looking for hoping for that
Speaker 1: that splash player or or a player offensively, I think
Speaker 1: most of the worry here is offense rather for most people,
Speaker 1: So the addition to the defense would be like it
Speaker 1: was great, Like I think it's fantastic, but I think obviously,
Speaker 1: like though I receive position is what people are worried
Speaker 1: about right now. No doubt, I think I would have
Speaker 1: felt a little bit better if it happened like now,
Speaker 1: because it happened, you know, it happened, you know, last week,
Speaker 1: and we're thinking, I know it's early, you know, just
Speaker 1: being here, we're thinking, Okay, he's gonna come in here
Speaker 1: and make an immediate impact for this rush defense. He
Speaker 1: came in there, and Chicago still put up two hundred
Speaker 1: forty yards on the ground. But yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: and I saw this, I'll throw this out. Michael Gelkin
Speaker 1: covers the Cowboys for Dallas Morning News. He put out
Speaker 1: an interesting tweet and I thought it was really really
Speaker 1: well done because what he said in the tweet was
Speaker 1: basically he broke down the number of plays when Hankins
Speaker 1: was on the field versus when not, and when Hankins
Speaker 1: was on the field, they average three point five yards
Speaker 1: per carry. And he had kind of this video montage
Speaker 1: you put together the different plays that Hankins was out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he wasn't was nothing coming through there, like he was
Speaker 1: manning that middle of that defense. Teams that like we
Speaker 1: talked about yesterday, like it's good for them to be
Speaker 1: putting out like this better tape. I think it's going
Speaker 1: to be important for people to see that if you don't,
Speaker 1: if you don't double team him, I mean lights out,
Speaker 1: because he's definitely he has the ability to get off
Speaker 1: of off of blocks and definitely get in there and
Speaker 1: make tackles. Yeah, and the question becomes how much can
Speaker 1: he take right if he is, if he's getting if
Speaker 1: the number of snaps that he got this last game
Speaker 1: is indicative of what he's going to get down the stretch,
Speaker 1: and that still leaves you exposed quite a bit because,
Speaker 1: as you said, they still put up two hundred and
Speaker 1: forty yards. Right. If you think you can increase that
Speaker 1: and he's actually going to be out there a lot more,
Speaker 1: now you can feel like, okay, it's a Cowboys. You
Speaker 1: can feel like, Okay, we might solve this problem because
Speaker 1: we know with time he'll get more snaps, and with
Speaker 1: more snaps, we think our run defense will be a
Speaker 1: lot better. Otherwise, teams will just say, when Hangins is
Speaker 1: out there, we're not gonna run as much exactly, And
Speaker 1: when he's on the sideline, hey load him up, let's go,
Speaker 1: let's get on. And that's the thing, you know, can
Speaker 1: he be you know, I'm not looking for him to
Speaker 1: be a three down lineman because you know, every down,
Speaker 1: you know, the pass rush and all that stuff. I
Speaker 1: understand that they're gonna be some rotation in there, but
Speaker 1: can he be a first and second down run stopper
Speaker 1: for the entirety of the game. That's what it's gonna
Speaker 1: come down to. Conditioning wise. Is he gonna be able
Speaker 1: to take that beating because being a big body in there,
Speaker 1: he's there to basically make sure those offensive linemen don't
Speaker 1: get to the second level and gobble up and running lads.
Speaker 1: So he's gonna be taking hits left and right from
Speaker 1: double teams, all types of stuff trying to move him
Speaker 1: out of the way. Can he take that punishment for
Speaker 1: the entirety of the game and for the rest of
Speaker 1: the season. I mean, the jewelry is still out on that.
Speaker 1: But for him, like you said, three point five yards
Speaker 1: of rush while he's in there, that's huge for this
Speaker 1: rush defense overall. Well, I also think that takes some
Speaker 1: pressure off of Bohannah, who's been playing you know a
Speaker 1: lot more knows I guess, than what he would normally do.
Speaker 1: Not having a trip like a true nose in there
Speaker 1: right now makes a difference. So I would wonder if
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to find some packages that work,
Speaker 1: you know, with Bohanna there and maybe Nevill next to
Speaker 1: him to kind of put some more size in there
Speaker 1: if he's not out there middle right. It is absolutely
Speaker 1: but like when you're talking about the run defense, that's
Speaker 1: the biggest concern. But I do, like I said, like teams,
Speaker 1: teams should see that running up the middle when he's
Speaker 1: there is probably gonna not probably not gonna be your
Speaker 1: best bab You might want to run it. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: might just be the best two gap guy you got
Speaker 1: on this team. The decision making. Yeah, and you just
Speaker 1: saw you saw it on some of those plays. But
Speaker 1: I mean he's on the right side, he's showing right
Speaker 1: and then they go left and he immediately flashes left
Speaker 1: and he's right there in the way right. It's and
Speaker 1: and for a big guy, uh and in the number
Speaker 1: of times he's taking double team, so he's doing everything
Speaker 1: you want a traditional big guy in the middle, one
Speaker 1: technique type guy to be able to do. He's doing it.
Speaker 1: He showed that in that last games. Question is how
Speaker 1: much can they use him? How often can he be
Speaker 1: on the field, and when he's all off, how much
Speaker 1: is the decline if he's off? And I love the
Speaker 1: addition because you know he's a vetting he understands his role.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of guy's going there. I'm getting
Speaker 1: after the password. I gotta get this sack, I get
Speaker 1: these numbers up. So you're not really doing what you're
Speaker 1: supposed to do as a unit. But this guy, he understands.
Speaker 1: Like you said, he's sitting there holding that too gap.
Speaker 1: Let me shed this guy to the right, let me
Speaker 1: shed this guy to the left. I'm not necessarily concerned
Speaker 1: with getting too much upfield to get after the quarterback
Speaker 1: because a lot of times that's what happens in the
Speaker 1: run defense. You see guys, just all my ears are
Speaker 1: pent back. Let me get after this pass Russer, and
Speaker 1: that creates lanes for the running back to get through.
Speaker 1: If you got a guy like Hankinson there that understands
Speaker 1: his responsibility, understands how to play as a unit, it
Speaker 1: should prove huge dividends for this defensive line and his
Speaker 1: defense overall. I think that's important too. Like I'm sorry
Speaker 1: if at that point I think that's important too. When
Speaker 1: you talk about the locker room. You got a lot
Speaker 1: of young players on a defensive one right, and so
Speaker 1: this is actually something that I heard Tank talking about
Speaker 1: a one or five point three defense, just you know,
Speaker 1: mentioning let the gap, integrity and stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: guys kind of chasing you know, in some of our words,
Speaker 1: chasing sacks and just you know. So I think it's
Speaker 1: important that he's coming in here and he's kind of set.
Speaker 1: He sets the tone, sets the precedence for Hey, this
Speaker 1: is this is your responsibility, this is what you play.
Speaker 1: We talked about just bringing veterans and how Jason Peters,
Speaker 1: you know, with the left tack with the left tackle
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith. I think it's a similar situation with this
Speaker 1: young DT room for him to come in here and
Speaker 1: be like, play your assignment, like to show what playing
Speaker 1: your assignment does and how consistently have what that does
Speaker 1: for you and your team. And he's got the skins
Speaker 1: on the wall. I've been here ten years tracking you
Speaker 1: can do this, and you can play for a long
Speaker 1: time in this league doing your job. You don't have
Speaker 1: to have the sacks. You can do your job and
Speaker 1: the play a long time. Yeah. And two gapping is
Speaker 1: not an easy technique to just gather. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: we saw in twenty twenty one and when guys were
Speaker 1: two gapping it was late struggle, right, so it's like, hey, um,
Speaker 1: for him to come in here and do that, well,
Speaker 1: it's going to be important for this team. So yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, one other thing I wanted to hit real
Speaker 1: quick before we take our break. Cowboys did make a
Speaker 1: move yesterday they released Tristan Hill. You got surprised at
Speaker 1: all by that move, honestly, so listen, this is a
Speaker 1: dope thing, says y'all know I'm new here, so like
Speaker 1: on my YouTube in like March, I said, like, you know,
Speaker 1: Triston Hills, I ain't this tank. I ain't because the
Speaker 1: ferocity he plays with the motor, all that stuff points
Speaker 1: to like what dan Quinn still like. And I think
Speaker 1: that's why he continued to try to, you know, developing everything.
Speaker 1: But I was surprised. I was like, dang, I was.
Speaker 1: I was like, dang, it was. It was kind of random.
Speaker 1: But then I thought about it. It makes sense given
Speaker 1: you know what's going on at the DT position. Obviously
Speaker 1: you're trying to get more size in there, trying to
Speaker 1: really stop the run. Tristan is more of a you know,
Speaker 1: pass rush guy, you know, get up for your guy,
Speaker 1: really aggressive guy. So to when it made sense because
Speaker 1: you get so much pass rush, like maybe you're not
Speaker 1: really looking for a lot of pass rush from your
Speaker 1: DTS right now, So the move made sense. It's still
Speaker 1: with shocking to me in some degree. To some degree, Yeah,
Speaker 1: without a daughter, it definitely made sense. And you know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't too surprised by this because if you look
Speaker 1: at it, even though you know Tristan Hill was having
Speaker 1: a great start to his young career. If you look
Speaker 1: at what he's done in three and a half years
Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys, I mean thirty three tackles and
Speaker 1: a half a sack. You know, with that type of
Speaker 1: production and as deep as this defensive line is, it's
Speaker 1: going to be hard for him to get on the field.
Speaker 1: And with that being said, you know, hey, I mean
Speaker 1: hopefully you know he finds you know, where he's going,
Speaker 1: you know, after the Cowboys, but with that type of production,
Speaker 1: it's going to be hard to crack the lineup. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't think he ever really fulfilled what they
Speaker 1: expected out of him being a second round pick. I
Speaker 1: think there are expectations where that he would be way
Speaker 1: more involved, way more productive, as you were talking about,
Speaker 1: than he's been. So again, when you're talking about a
Speaker 1: room that's deep, when you're talking about a defensive line
Speaker 1: that's deep, when you talk about defensive lineman, now that
Speaker 1: might be coming back here soon in Terrell Basham Like,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that you have to consider,
Speaker 1: and I just think that it just was you know, hey,
Speaker 1: this is just the way we have to go because
Speaker 1: that's where we are with this player and different regime.
Speaker 1: I mean that matters, Like I mean, it matters like
Speaker 1: when you start looking at you know, this locker room,
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys are are guys that have
Speaker 1: been drafted here, like in this last couple. So I
Speaker 1: just feel like it's I think it mattered that he
Speaker 1: came from a different regime and the way that dan
Speaker 1: Quinn plays defense as way he's teaching. So maybe they just,
Speaker 1: like I said, maybe they want to just beef up
Speaker 1: in the middle and go about their business. Yeah, all right,
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Speaker 1: jump into our midyear review. We got more questions for
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Speaker 1: to our midyear review. Here's some questions for you guys.
Speaker 1: Is the first one the player who has been who
Speaker 1: who has been newly added that will provide the most
Speaker 1: for the team down the stretch. On the defense, the
Speaker 1: options are Jonathan Hankins or Damon Clark Barnacles. Well one
Speaker 1: bee gets the other. Yeah, okay, you can choose one.
Speaker 1: Putting you on the spot, Tater Tids, what's more important? Right,
Speaker 1: no one, I'm trying to think what's more important right
Speaker 1: at this point in time, I think was it? Maybe
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense football wise, but I think was
Speaker 1: hurting you more right now with plays downfield and making
Speaker 1: your cornerbacks having to come up and tackle in places
Speaker 1: where maybe they shouldn't be having to tackle. Is the
Speaker 1: linebacker position. Okay, So Damon clark Field, Yeah, okay, I
Speaker 1: love that. I love that decision because, like we talked
Speaker 1: about yesterday, you know, Elvie bar I love what they're
Speaker 1: doing out there. They're solid, they're playing well side line
Speaker 1: of sideline, but at that point of attack, I just
Speaker 1: don't see it, you know, I just see the leaky
Speaker 1: yard is. You know we saw the other day with Montgomery.
Speaker 1: You know, he made a heck of a tackle on
Speaker 1: open field, but you know, if Montgomery doesn't follow that,
Speaker 1: he's falling forward for extra three four yards. And I've
Speaker 1: seen too much of that. But with that being said,
Speaker 1: I gotta go with Hankins. I gotta go with Hankins
Speaker 1: out here. And we get we just talked about it.
Speaker 1: How when he's on the field, his presence in the
Speaker 1: run game is outstanding. You know, he's, like you said,
Speaker 1: he's shedding blockers out there, stuff in these run lanes,
Speaker 1: making sure these offensive linemen aren't getting to the second
Speaker 1: level to go against our second level defenders lve Bar
Speaker 1: when you get those walk down safeties, Curse and Wilson.
Speaker 1: As a former safety, I'm telling you, when you get
Speaker 1: down there and you got a clear view of everything,
Speaker 1: it makes your job a heck of a lot easier
Speaker 1: because when you got those offensive linemen coming up at you,
Speaker 1: your first initial thought is you gotta avoid. Because you're
Speaker 1: a smaller guy, you gotta avoid, and that creates an
Speaker 1: even bigger lane for the runner to do that. So
Speaker 1: I gotta go with Hankins. He's keeping those offensive linemen
Speaker 1: off our second level defenders, and hopefully he can do
Speaker 1: that for the remainder of this season. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: here's the interesting thing. If Damon Clark ends up being
Speaker 1: what he was projected to be, I'm frank then and
Speaker 1: then I think Damon Clark may actually provide more because
Speaker 1: I think if he can become that, he is in
Speaker 1: every down type we talk about this year or like
Speaker 1: in a few But that's what I'm saying. I don't know,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how fast he can he can
Speaker 1: acquiesce that. What I will tell you is this is
Speaker 1: a guy. We noticed this back during training camp obviously
Speaker 1: he was. He was not playing, was not practicing at all.
Speaker 1: He was over on the sideline. I don't think I've
Speaker 1: ever seen a player do this. He was on the
Speaker 1: sideline during training camp practices, watching the defense and kind
Speaker 1: of mimicking what he would be doing in these situations.
Speaker 1: He is taking mental reps while he is not going
Speaker 1: to play for six seven weeks, but he's taking mental
Speaker 1: reps in training camp practices and literally working his body
Speaker 1: and trying to get muscle memory for Okay, on this play,
Speaker 1: I see this, I do this. This is how I react.
Speaker 1: This I respond, And that that spoke volumes to me.
Speaker 1: And by the way, it might not be a big deal,
Speaker 1: but to me, what it said was, this is one
Speaker 1: of those guys that just loves the game. He just
Speaker 1: loves the game. And when you find players who just
Speaker 1: love the game, I have a feeling like, if they've
Speaker 1: got the talent, then that's the ones that become really
Speaker 1: really cold out of down because they will pour everything
Speaker 1: they got into And you talked. We talked to him,
Speaker 1: and we talked to Micah after the game, and both
Speaker 1: of them were talking about their relationship and how their
Speaker 1: relationships started. You meet after he got draft, he hit
Speaker 1: up Mike and he's like, hey, man, I want to
Speaker 1: get on your wing. You know, I need to know
Speaker 1: what's going on, you know, And he can't. He's not
Speaker 1: even gonna be playing, but he's already and Mica said,
Speaker 1: you know, and we're always, you know, spending time. He's
Speaker 1: all he's And Michael was the one that said he
Speaker 1: loves the game. He just loves football. So when you
Speaker 1: start thinking about it from that perspective, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna put anything past daman Clark, and the talent
Speaker 1: certainly is there. I think he's a guy that most
Speaker 1: draft analists said would have been a first second round pick,
Speaker 1: but not for the injury. So I'm looking at Dad
Speaker 1: and saying, you know, Barb might be he might want
Speaker 1: to hurry him get back. Oh yeah, because because the
Speaker 1: more time he's out, the more time this young buck
Speaker 1: has an opportunity to maybe step in there and show
Speaker 1: him something. And again, one of the things about him
Speaker 1: that you know is he was in What they talked
Speaker 1: about is in pre draft was not only is he
Speaker 1: good at stopping run, as far as a tackler getting
Speaker 1: to the ball sideline, the sideline He's also good at coverage,
Speaker 1: so again, he becomes a player that maybe is out
Speaker 1: there on every single down. If he can get to
Speaker 1: that level this year, toward the end of this year,
Speaker 1: even that's gonna be as valuable as any other thing
Speaker 1: on this team, especially if he's a playmaking type linebacker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's early. I mean he's I mean, like to our
Speaker 1: I guess to our standards in our minds, like he's early.
Speaker 1: But I think that is a testament of his work ethic.
Speaker 1: I talked about on our show, shout at him out like,
Speaker 1: can't discount like this his work ethic and how he
Speaker 1: got here. But when you look at his history, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know a whole bunch about LSU because I
Speaker 1: don't listen. I'm just not getting the college ball, y'all.
Speaker 1: Don't get Brian starts, you guys. But you know from
Speaker 1: my knowledge and wearing a number eighteen, it's a big deal.
Speaker 1: So absolutely so when you started looking at LSU, some
Speaker 1: of the great players we've seen come out of that
Speaker 1: that college in his last couple of years, especially, hey man,
Speaker 1: you gotta think like it's not just about the football, right,
Speaker 1: So I'm not surprised by that, the fact that he
Speaker 1: was even doing that. I'm also not surprised at this
Speaker 1: fact that he out there because people are spoken so
Speaker 1: highly of him. I took a deep dive after we
Speaker 1: drafted him out the Cowboys drafting him and to his character.
Speaker 1: But I do, I do agree with you that this
Speaker 1: guy is like his right now, he's just playing instinctively.
Speaker 1: He's just you know, but dan Quinn I think even
Speaker 1: talked about No, not dan Quinn, it was George Edwards
Speaker 1: talked about him even you know, reading some things correctly
Speaker 1: that maybe he wasn't they maybe they didn't expect for
Speaker 1: him to just know already, but that lets you know
Speaker 1: he's in his books. I think the processing is something
Speaker 1: that he's gonna work on and continue. And because he's
Speaker 1: kind of early, he has almost half of a season
Speaker 1: possibly to come in and start getting those mental reps.
Speaker 1: And who better, who better to be paired with than Mica.
Speaker 1: It sounds like they're like minded because it's one thing
Speaker 1: that Micah talks about his love for footba ball and
Speaker 1: he talks about it being played the right way, you know,
Speaker 1: the correct way. So I think that it's interesting that
Speaker 1: Mica is an example out here like for what players
Speaker 1: want to be. So I'm excited to see those guys together.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. That's good to know that they
Speaker 1: are already a gel in and connecting like that. And
Speaker 1: another thing to note, I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: saw it. I saw a tweet earlier this week. I
Speaker 1: can't remember who it was from, but they said that
Speaker 1: next gen stats had him running in this last game
Speaker 1: had the moon Clark running at I think twenty two points,
Speaker 1: so he can rouse pours the fastest that any player
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys has running this season. That that tells
Speaker 1: you a lot. And Michael even said, you know how
Speaker 1: competitive Mike is. He's like, yeah, he's fast to me,
Speaker 1: like he even admitted it. And that's that demon Clark
Speaker 1: can run. So you get a linebacker that can really
Speaker 1: run once they figure it out and the game slows
Speaker 1: down a little bit before them, look out, man, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you this is gonna be. This is going to
Speaker 1: be quite a pick for the Cowboys. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're going to see the full extent of
Speaker 1: it this year or wait till next year, but at
Speaker 1: some point this was gonna pay off. I think you'd
Speaker 1: love to see it. And what makes that quality you
Speaker 1: talk about is him being, you know, a learner. He's
Speaker 1: coachable out there and he loves to learn and everything
Speaker 1: like that. Because there's some guys like myself when I
Speaker 1: was playing, I treated it like a job, like this
Speaker 1: is my job. I liked football, but I wasn't in
Speaker 1: love with football. And there's other guys that go from
Speaker 1: good to great like Shanley. He was entrenched in football
Speaker 1: like he took it here, he took it home. He
Speaker 1: was everywhere football. It was his life was football, and
Speaker 1: that's what made him so great. So hopefully, you know,
Speaker 1: Damon Clark, he can have those same characteristics where I
Speaker 1: love the game, I want to learn about the game.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a part of me twenty four
Speaker 1: to seven, and it sounds like he has that mentality already.
Speaker 1: All right, next question for you guys. If Tyler Smith,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Tyron Smith returns in December, who would be
Speaker 1: your starting five offensive linemen? There you go, don't just
Speaker 1: be starting at Tyren Smith. Tyren's back. If he's back
Speaker 1: in December, my starting offensive line will be Tyler Smith
Speaker 1: at the left guard, McGovern at the u left guard,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Tyler Smith at the left tackle, MC ever
Speaker 1: have to left guard, But yall just had the center,
Speaker 1: Zach Martin att right guard, and Terrence still at the
Speaker 1: right tackle. So Tyron is not getting a job back. No,
Speaker 1: he's not getting his job back. And the reason I
Speaker 1: say that is because by that time this unit will
Speaker 1: have already jailed and they're playing good football right now.
Speaker 1: As you see they're protecting Dak Prescott out there. They're
Speaker 1: moving people out of the way for this running game
Speaker 1: to get going. I understand the player that Tyren Smith
Speaker 1: is when he's healthy, He's a heck of a player,
Speaker 1: Hall of fame resume. I get all that. But as
Speaker 1: this unit they're jailed right now, I don't want to
Speaker 1: see because that's gonna be a rotation in an offensive line.
Speaker 1: You can't really have a rotation like that, like I
Speaker 1: hated when they had Peter's rotating in from a government like.
Speaker 1: Let the guy get established in the game, let him
Speaker 1: get that momentum, let him understand how the play callings going,
Speaker 1: and get a feel for the game. When you guys
Speaker 1: rotate like that, it gets people, you know, out of whack.
Speaker 1: You know, I can see if it was a D
Speaker 1: line because D line you got a rotate. You gotta
Speaker 1: get fresh bodies in there to get after the quarterback.
Speaker 1: But there's some units where you don't need to rotate.
Speaker 1: Into me, safety, you don't need to rotate. Secondary like corner,
Speaker 1: no rotation, Linebacker, no rotation, offensive line, no rotation. To me,
Speaker 1: stick with the unit that's getting things done. When you
Speaker 1: add a guy like Tyren Smith in there, I understand,
Speaker 1: hall of fame resume, like I said, but I just
Speaker 1: think it'll mess up the jail a little bit. And
Speaker 1: these guys right now, they're understanding the strengths and the
Speaker 1: weaknesses of each other. All right, I gotta help this
Speaker 1: guy on this play because you know he's not as
Speaker 1: strong here, or I gotta make sure this guy has
Speaker 1: my back because I'm kind of weak in this situation.
Speaker 1: They understand each other's strengths and weaknesses out there, and
Speaker 1: I think if you add Tyren Smith in there on
Speaker 1: a rotation basis, I just think it'll mess up the
Speaker 1: whole continuity, all the offensive line. So I understand he's
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame player, but to me, keep that
Speaker 1: unit going. They're playing pretty well right now. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the struggle of the conversation of best five right now,
Speaker 1: right now. And I do think Cowboys got some some
Speaker 1: road games coming up here later in the season that
Speaker 1: I think the communication and stuff is gonna matter on
Speaker 1: this offensive line. And when you do start talking about
Speaker 1: continuity again, like I think that is important moving into
Speaker 1: some of this latter's part of your season, when you're
Speaker 1: going to be going to places like a Lambo and
Speaker 1: all these like it's it's loud in these places. And
Speaker 1: so also I think that was a problem when you
Speaker 1: start looking back at last year. I think that was
Speaker 1: a problem that arises in the forty nine Ers game,
Speaker 1: is that the offensive line there was communication errors everywhere,
Speaker 1: and I think that was a product. I think the
Speaker 1: false starts and the mistakes were a product of a
Speaker 1: lot of miscommunication. And also when you start talking about
Speaker 1: your offensive line, it's not just about the offensive line,
Speaker 1: it's about your quarterback too. And your quarterback is just
Speaker 1: now getting back and starting to jail with these guys
Speaker 1: and get that cadence together and get that time in together.
Speaker 1: So I also do worry about you know them coming in.
Speaker 1: We'll bring in Tyler, Tyler tying in and Tyler being moved.
Speaker 1: I still I don't know. I still think it's still
Speaker 1: a possibility just because of the seniority that's involved in stuff.
Speaker 1: But I agree with you Barry that if you don't
Speaker 1: want to break up that continuity this is that probably
Speaker 1: is the best bet to just keep Tyler where he
Speaker 1: is and have mccover in there. But how do you
Speaker 1: find way? Do you find ways to get Tyrant on
Speaker 1: the front? They're going to find a way, I will
Speaker 1: tell you this. And you heard Jerry Jones. He was
Speaker 1: on one or five to three the Fan earlier this week,
Speaker 1: and I heard him say when they asked him about
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith, he said, look, you know, try it's hard
Speaker 1: to think. And actually it might have been Steven now
Speaker 1: I think about it, but it was one of the
Speaker 1: two of them. And they say, it's hard to imagine
Speaker 1: that Tyrant Smith is not one of your top five
Speaker 1: offensive linemen. So he's gonna play football, is what we
Speaker 1: would expect. Now. And here's the deal I do expect
Speaker 1: because of being around here so long and seeing how
Speaker 1: things are typically done, it would be I would be
Speaker 1: shocked if Tyrn doesn't come back and get his job
Speaker 1: at because I just think they kind of operate like
Speaker 1: that around here. Now. I agree with you, Barry. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's necessarily the right answer. And the reason
Speaker 1: why I don't is more so about the future. If
Speaker 1: you're if you know Tyrant is not your long term answer,
Speaker 1: which I think everybody agrees that that's probably the case.
Speaker 1: He's towards the end of his career, and you've now
Speaker 1: identified the solution, like you've already had done to fight it.
Speaker 1: He is playing well now, he's out perfect. I get that,
Speaker 1: but he's playing well. I don't want to sit that
Speaker 1: guy down. I kind of want to get him out
Speaker 1: there now. There's also the convention of the wisdom that
Speaker 1: sometimes people say, well, sometimes a young guy can learn
Speaker 1: after he's played some sitting down a little bit sometimes
Speaker 1: can give him a chance to kind of take his
Speaker 1: breath and learn even more from the sideline. And and
Speaker 1: and I don't know if that I necessarily buy that
Speaker 1: when you're talking about an offensive lineman, m So for me,
Speaker 1: I would rather just keep the guy going. And I'll
Speaker 1: also throw on this other little thing. Going back to
Speaker 1: training camp this year, I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 1: Tyrone was playing as we know Tyron And if Tyron
Speaker 1: comes back and he's not the Pro Bowl tyrant after weeks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if he's, if he's the guy that that we saw
Speaker 1: during training camp, I don't know that I want to
Speaker 1: go to that from what Tyler is doing right now,
Speaker 1: to stop Tyler's development, that's not worth it to me
Speaker 1: in my opinion. Yeah, but no, no, no, no, I agree.
Speaker 1: I did. I guess I've thought about that, but I hadn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't think to bring it up. It's the fact
Speaker 1: that like, yeah, Tyring, when you looked at him in camp,
Speaker 1: like it it wasn't always, Um, it wasn't always what
Speaker 1: you expect to see from Tyring. And then also too
Speaker 1: again like this is an extension of what some of
Speaker 1: the things we saw later last year as well. So
Speaker 1: I just I want to be fair to the rook
Speaker 1: and his development and what he is doing. Um. And
Speaker 1: like you talked, like we talked about Barry, it matters
Speaker 1: going into the latter part of the season that your
Speaker 1: left tack was confident also, like you want him to
Speaker 1: be confident and that you well, yeah, you wanted to
Speaker 1: be confident in his ability, um, And so I don't
Speaker 1: want to diminish that also by bringing in and just
Speaker 1: giving him a spot back, like, just is that how
Speaker 1: we work here? Na? Look, I thought it was a meritocracy,
Speaker 1: but well you know that. And that's actually interesting point
Speaker 1: because if Tony Romo can lose his job to injury,
Speaker 1: anybody can lose. But know what's gonna happen. Ry, come on,
Speaker 1: I don't want it to happen, but you know he's
Speaker 1: gonna get his spot. But I have a hard time
Speaker 1: thing he's not. I really do. See was that last
Speaker 1: year the man you in self inflicting five games off?
Speaker 1: Terrence Steele is playing great ball all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: boot he's back in the lineup. If you're if you're
Speaker 1: one of those favorites, they're gonna find a way to
Speaker 1: put you in the lineup. And look, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's the right thing to do, but we all know
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. He's gonna slide in there on some
Speaker 1: type of rotational basis and it might mess up the continuity,
Speaker 1: but that's what that's what it is, what it is,
Speaker 1: And let's also sorry, sorry if it makes sense in
Speaker 1: some packages, I'm not gonna complain about it. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, I don't know I guess it just
Speaker 1: depends on what you're who you're playing, and what it's what,
Speaker 1: what how Kelly uses him if he does, if it's
Speaker 1: just a situational thing. But I think that the starting
Speaker 1: five should stayed away. But you know, we as we
Speaker 1: also have to remember too that and this is being
Speaker 1: fair to the coaches and the front office. Sometimes hard
Speaker 1: to get past history when you have history with a
Speaker 1: guy where you know him to be great. And Tyren
Speaker 1: Smith for his career here has been great. I mean,
Speaker 1: and there there have been some situations where he played
Speaker 1: through injuries and was still great, and so it's hard
Speaker 1: sometimes to get your mind to get past this guy
Speaker 1: isn't great anymore. Like's you just keep saying, look, he
Speaker 1: might have some struggles here or there, but I still
Speaker 1: know this guy is being great, and so it is harder.
Speaker 1: And that's why I think sometimes you see the vet
Speaker 1: come back, and the Vet's gonna get his job, because
Speaker 1: the coaches the front office still look at him and say,
Speaker 1: and this guy, he's just I've seen him be great,
Speaker 1: and I trust the fact that he's gonna be great.
Speaker 1: And until they are proven wrong, beyond the shadow of doubt,
Speaker 1: they're gonna keep rolling with the fact that he's gonna
Speaker 1: be great. So and by the way, let's also be clear,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Tyren Smith will come back and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's given up three four sacks
Speaker 1: a game. That's not gonna be the case. Tyren Smith
Speaker 1: will be a good player. I just don't know if
Speaker 1: for a good player, I'm willing to stop the progress
Speaker 1: of my rookie. I would need him to be great
Speaker 1: for me to want to stop the progress my rookie,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure he's that anymore. Yeah, And like
Speaker 1: we talked about it in camp. You know, Tyler Smith
Speaker 1: got all his REPSITT guard everything I guard. They just
Speaker 1: threw him in the fire and he's doing an excellent
Speaker 1: job in my opinion at that left tackle position. So
Speaker 1: you know, why would you block that, you know, for
Speaker 1: for a guy who's you know, on his last leg.
Speaker 1: We understand how he's dealt with a lot of injuries.
Speaker 1: And for the goal that you guys are going for,
Speaker 1: like you're going for that long one, you're trying to
Speaker 1: make it to the super Bowl. I think continuity matters,
Speaker 1: and that offensive line matters, and if you try to
Speaker 1: next with that going into the playoffs. I think it
Speaker 1: could be a detrimental to your team. I think it's
Speaker 1: funny weak. I think it's funny. We've been begging for
Speaker 1: a tiring, like a tiring, a backup or replacement for
Speaker 1: years now, like, hey, you need to draft another left
Speaker 1: tackle just in case, you know, just in cases because
Speaker 1: and finally get one. We'll sit them down for a
Speaker 1: second as we see you can play down second breath.
Speaker 1: We see you next year. Right, you'll be fine. Yeah, Okay,
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Speaker 1: of this week? Sad? Yeah, I'm kind of sad, but
Speaker 1: also I'm kind of looking forward to a few days
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Speaker 1: I will watch Texas. I will watch that. Actually, look yeah,
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Speaker 1: this year because I don't have expectations. Okay, I arned.
Speaker 1: I don't go into the season of the expectations. I'm
Speaker 1: just like I will enjoy every game as a standalone thing.
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Speaker 1: opportunity to watch my too hard to do though, Like
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Speaker 1: Like yes? And I like literally me and my buddies
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Speaker 1: also promised myself I'm not gonna let teenage just dictate
Speaker 1: my move. There you go there. When this game is over,
Speaker 1: if I'm sit back, I'm gonna be like, man, they
Speaker 1: messed that one up. Oh well, went on. I did
Speaker 1: it for years. I did it for years though I
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Speaker 1: let's back here. We got some more questions to be
Speaker 1: you guys. I hope you excuse man, I hope you
Speaker 1: get K state, the tut K state, not the Oklahoma stake. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I know that I'm worried about Hope defense. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: and we do sometimes other times it can be a problem,
Speaker 1: but Dudu's fun serious like he is a problem. Blow
Speaker 1: So we'll say Chris, it'll be fun. Yeah, shout out Chris.
Speaker 1: All right, So, um, here's the next question for you guys.
Speaker 1: More important for the second half of the season and
Speaker 1: the post these season stopping the run on the defense
Speaker 1: or offensively scoring thirty points plus per game? Ain't that
Speaker 1: what the Chiefs knowing? Yeah, and that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like both neither one of them are things we're consistently
Speaker 1: doing that we're consistently seeing here with the Cowboys. So
Speaker 1: which one do you think they need more heading down
Speaker 1: the rest of the season and into the playoffs if
Speaker 1: they're going to be successful. I would think just the
Speaker 1: offense matching I think, yeah, I think the scoring for
Speaker 1: the offense, you'll give up the run and do what
Speaker 1: they've been doing for thirty plus points a game. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: because in the run, I mean, like, let people ain't
Speaker 1: just besides this past week, people ain't just scoring on
Speaker 1: you in the run excessively. More importantly, like people, a
Speaker 1: lot of the teams are running out of necessity because
Speaker 1: they cannot do anything else. So it's like it's a
Speaker 1: it's a matchup problem. So the run like that, and
Speaker 1: I have to remind myself of them of that when
Speaker 1: they're getting gashed in the run. You gotta think teams
Speaker 1: are schematically just trying to run the ball on you
Speaker 1: because they are afraid to do anything else. So when
Speaker 1: you're seeing that you're run, your defense is seeing the
Speaker 1: brunt of like what's going on with their run, Like
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well that they're dictating their offensive plan
Speaker 1: to run the ball. So I think that offensively, if
Speaker 1: you add scoring more points to them already trying to
Speaker 1: dictate that, you're causing them to make two changes like,
Speaker 1: oh no, we have to go pass, we have to
Speaker 1: go score, But they're already planning and pre planning. Just
Speaker 1: made a fantastic point on our show. The Bears have
Speaker 1: been prepping for the Cowboys game two weeks brighter. So
Speaker 1: that puts perspective for you how much teams are trying
Speaker 1: to scheme to make sure they can run the ball
Speaker 1: successfully because passing is almost like for what they don't
Speaker 1: want to don't risk their quarterback. Not they don't want
Speaker 1: to risk their quarterback, but it also is it's just
Speaker 1: difficult to have any time back there. So I would
Speaker 1: say the offense putting up points, putting up points early
Speaker 1: because again there's not that many teams like the Bears
Speaker 1: that are like and even de Marcus Lawd's even talked about.
Speaker 1: He was like, they were still running and I think
Speaker 1: they expected them to start passing. Most teams would start
Speaker 1: passing in those situations. So with that, me and said,
Speaker 1: you know, make them make choices, business decisions. So are
Speaker 1: we saying that this defense is still going to be
Speaker 1: able to do what it can do, you know, holding
Speaker 1: teams to what seventeen points are? Like that? Okay, So
Speaker 1: if that's the key, I mean, honestly, that's what they've
Speaker 1: been to it. They're holding teams to point. Like I
Speaker 1: used to said, they're not giving up a ton of points.
Speaker 1: They're giving a bunch of yards. That's a bunch of
Speaker 1: rushing yards. So if they keep doing that, but they
Speaker 1: can get thirty plus points, which one do you prefer?
Speaker 1: Ongoing offensively? Then yeah, let does offense get thirty some points,
Speaker 1: because then I think you've become unbeatable because if your
Speaker 1: offense is putting up thirty some points a game, you know,
Speaker 1: teams can't stick with the run consistently like that. We've
Speaker 1: seen Chicago. They try to stick with the running. They
Speaker 1: still got smacked by twenty some points out there. So
Speaker 1: this defense is doing a heck of a job. You know,
Speaker 1: they may not be able to stop the run, but
Speaker 1: when it comes to the red zone, they are great
Speaker 1: when it comes to force and teams to hit field
Speaker 1: goals instead of getting touchdowns. And I believe if you
Speaker 1: can continue with that formula and have this defense only
Speaker 1: giving up seventeen points per game and you have your
Speaker 1: offense exploding, then I mean the sky's a limit. Because
Speaker 1: this team was still able to put up or still
Speaker 1: able to win games when your offense was struggling out there,
Speaker 1: when Dak Prescott wasn't in there for five games, your
Speaker 1: defensive and your team was still winning because they were
Speaker 1: holding teams to such low points out there. If they're
Speaker 1: able to continue to do that by giving up maybe
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty yards rushing in the game, I'll
Speaker 1: take that. As long as your offense is explosive as well,
Speaker 1: they become pretty much an unbeatable team there. Okay, So
Speaker 1: there's what I'm gonna do. If we got We don't
Speaker 1: have much time, but I gotta ask this one last
Speaker 1: question because I gotta get you guys on the record
Speaker 1: on this one. Which camp do you falling? Because this
Speaker 1: is the biggest conversation going on about the Cowboys right now,
Speaker 1: media pology, get more carries or keep things as they are?
Speaker 1: How many carries? Fourteen? Yeah, that's fine, And I think
Speaker 1: he'd agree after saying how when did he was after
Speaker 1: the game? All Right, that's my thoughts on it. That's fine.
Speaker 1: I mean fourteen, I mean about that range. Like, he's
Speaker 1: fine to me, and I think that's gonna be good
Speaker 1: for his body and for what he does for this team.
Speaker 1: I'm good with it. Maybe a few more, I doubt
Speaker 1: I'm good with that as well. Fourteen carries to me
Speaker 1: is good. I mean he's that change of pace back.
Speaker 1: We understand what Zeke brings to the table. He's that
Speaker 1: tender riser. He gets teams, you know, worn down. So
Speaker 1: then Tony Pollard comes in there and bust a big one.
Speaker 1: I like where he's at right now, that fourteen, But
Speaker 1: between fourteen and eighteen carries, I think you get the
Speaker 1: most out of Polar You're not wearing them down. He
Speaker 1: still get that explosiveness with that carry amount. So I'm
Speaker 1: good where it's at. And then you know, next year
Speaker 1: we'll come to the table again. Yeah, I would even say,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm good with that and that number being
Speaker 1: between ten and fifteen in a game like to me,
Speaker 1: I look at Tony Pollard as the kind of guy
Speaker 1: and this goes back. I know. Patrick Walker wrote a
Speaker 1: really good article yesterday where he had some time. They
Speaker 1: all all the media talk to us Skip Pete yesterday,
Speaker 1: but he was quoting Skip and some of the stuff
Speaker 1: that he was saying and going back to training camp.
Speaker 1: This was something I talked to Skip about it. He
Speaker 1: is very convicted on the idea that you need two backs,
Speaker 1: and especially when you got two backs that have two
Speaker 1: different running styles. It he's the way he describes it
Speaker 1: is it's a lot different and Bear you probably can
Speaker 1: appreciate this as being a form of safety. Your angle
Speaker 1: when you're trying to hit Dak and how you're approaching Dak.
Speaker 1: I'm not Dak, I'm sorry. Zeke when he's running the ball,
Speaker 1: how you're going to attack him, it's very different then Tony.
Speaker 1: So if you're doing that, you're hitting Zeke, You're trying
Speaker 1: to get to where he's gonna be, You're trying to
Speaker 1: make the tackle, and then all of a sudden you
Speaker 1: got Poller coming at you. Your angles all messed up,
Speaker 1: how you approach him, how you have to hit him.
Speaker 1: All that stuff is now different, and you expect you
Speaker 1: force defenses to have to adjust on the fly when
Speaker 1: Tony Poller has the ball versus when Zeke has the ball,
Speaker 1: And he says that makes a huge difference, something he's
Speaker 1: always believed in as a coach here in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And so you look at it from that standpoint, I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot being made about nothing I don't
Speaker 1: think this is a problem. I actually think this running
Speaker 1: game is a strength. And I know people say you
Speaker 1: can get better at it, but is that really gonna
Speaker 1: be better? Tony Pollard I think actually performs best when
Speaker 1: he's in that ten to fifteen Carrie mode and trying
Speaker 1: to get above that, you're probably gonna get a It's
Speaker 1: gonna be the law of diminishing return. And then especially
Speaker 1: you know, not only say these, but defensive line as well,
Speaker 1: because when you're you're holding onto that block, you see,
Speaker 1: all right, ze got got some time that you know,
Speaker 1: kind of play with this because he's gonna hit the
Speaker 1: whole lot slower than boom. Here here comes Pollard hitting
Speaker 1: a hole. You gotta, you know, get off your block
Speaker 1: even quicker so that change the pace. Like you said,
Speaker 1: it works in the secondary as well as a defensive line,
Speaker 1: and I think they hit gold. This little thunder and
Speaker 1: lightning combo they got going on right now, it's pretty legit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's working, And I don't think that's something you necessarily
Speaker 1: need to mess with. There are lots of other things
Speaker 1: you can mess with on this team if you want
Speaker 1: to just go and look for things to get crazy
Speaker 1: and wild about. That's not one of them. It ain't broke,
Speaker 1: don't fix it as it go. All right. We appreciate
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