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Speaker 1: Season eighteen, episode number sixty four. Welcome to the latest

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Speaker 1: throughout all of our podcasts from Mixed It Up this week.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I think we had a really good show yesterday.

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Speaker 1: that today. We're gonna actually get into more of that

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Speaker 1: mid year review. We got some more questions for you guys.

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Speaker 1: ninety seven is our number. Let's start first with Yesterday

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Speaker 1: was the day that the NFL I had this deadline

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Speaker 1: for trades. Uh, it went, came and went, and the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: no how disappointed were you guys that the Cowboys didn't

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Speaker 1: who has been newly added that will provide the most

428
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Speaker 1: for the team down the stretch. On the defense, the

429
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Speaker 1: options are Jonathan Hankins or Damon Clark Barnacles. Well one

430
00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,800
Speaker 1: bee gets the other. Yeah, okay, you can choose one.

431
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,439
Speaker 1: Putting you on the spot, Tater Tids, what's more important? Right,

432
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:22,560
Speaker 1: no one, I'm trying to think what's more important right

433
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,760
Speaker 1: at this point in time, I think was it? Maybe

434
00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense football wise, but I think was

435
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,040
Speaker 1: hurting you more right now with plays downfield and making

436
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 1: your cornerbacks having to come up and tackle in places

437
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,560
Speaker 1: where maybe they shouldn't be having to tackle. Is the

438
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:44,280
Speaker 1: linebacker position. Okay, So Damon clark Field, Yeah, okay, I

439
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 1: love that. I love that decision because, like we talked

440
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Speaker 1: about yesterday, you know, Elvie bar I love what they're

441
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,680
Speaker 1: doing out there. They're solid, they're playing well side line

442
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,200
Speaker 1: of sideline, but at that point of attack, I just

443
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,240
Speaker 1: don't see it, you know, I just see the leaky

444
00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 1: yard is. You know we saw the other day with Montgomery.

445
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,200
Speaker 1: You know, he made a heck of a tackle on

446
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 1: open field, but you know, if Montgomery doesn't follow that,

447
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,120
Speaker 1: he's falling forward for extra three four yards. And I've

448
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 1: seen too much of that. But with that being said,

449
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,120
Speaker 1: I gotta go with Hankins. I gotta go with Hankins

450
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 1: out here. And we get we just talked about it.

451
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 1: How when he's on the field, his presence in the

452
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 1: run game is outstanding. You know, he's, like you said,

453
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 1: he's shedding blockers out there, stuff in these run lanes,

454
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Speaker 1: making sure these offensive linemen aren't getting to the second

455
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Speaker 1: level to go against our second level defenders lve Bar

456
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 1: when you get those walk down safeties, Curse and Wilson.

457
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Speaker 1: As a former safety, I'm telling you, when you get

458
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 1: down there and you got a clear view of everything,

459
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,400
Speaker 1: it makes your job a heck of a lot easier

460
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Speaker 1: because when you got those offensive linemen coming up at you,

461
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Speaker 1: your first initial thought is you gotta avoid. Because you're

462
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Speaker 1: a smaller guy, you gotta avoid, and that creates an

463
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Speaker 1: even bigger lane for the runner to do that. So

464
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 1: I gotta go with Hankins. He's keeping those offensive linemen

465
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Speaker 1: off our second level defenders, and hopefully he can do

466
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 1: that for the remainder of this season. Well, you know,

467
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 1: here's the interesting thing. If Damon Clark ends up being

468
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Speaker 1: what he was projected to be, I'm frank then and

469
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Speaker 1: then I think Damon Clark may actually provide more because

470
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Speaker 1: I think if he can become that, he is in

471
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Speaker 1: every down type we talk about this year or like

472
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,199
Speaker 1: in a few But that's what I'm saying. I don't know,

473
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Speaker 1: and I don't know how fast he can he can

474
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Speaker 1: acquiesce that. What I will tell you is this is

475
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Speaker 1: a guy. We noticed this back during training camp obviously

476
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Speaker 1: he was. He was not playing, was not practicing at all.

477
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Speaker 1: He was over on the sideline. I don't think I've

478
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Speaker 1: ever seen a player do this. He was on the

479
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Speaker 1: sideline during training camp practices, watching the defense and kind

480
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Speaker 1: of mimicking what he would be doing in these situations.

481
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Speaker 1: He is taking mental reps while he is not going

482
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Speaker 1: to play for six seven weeks, but he's taking mental

483
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Speaker 1: reps in training camp practices and literally working his body

484
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 1: and trying to get muscle memory for Okay, on this play,

485
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Speaker 1: I see this, I do this. This is how I react.

486
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Speaker 1: This I respond, And that that spoke volumes to me.

487
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: And by the way, it might not be a big deal,

488
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Speaker 1: but to me, what it said was, this is one

489
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Speaker 1: of those guys that just loves the game. He just

490
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Speaker 1: loves the game. And when you find players who just

491
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Speaker 1: love the game, I have a feeling like, if they've

492
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Speaker 1: got the talent, then that's the ones that become really

493
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Speaker 1: really cold out of down because they will pour everything

494
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Speaker 1: they got into And you talked. We talked to him,

495
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: and we talked to Micah after the game, and both

496
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Speaker 1: of them were talking about their relationship and how their

497
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Speaker 1: relationships started. You meet after he got draft, he hit

498
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Speaker 1: up Mike and he's like, hey, man, I want to

499
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Speaker 1: get on your wing. You know, I need to know

500
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Speaker 1: what's going on, you know, And he can't. He's not

501
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: even gonna be playing, but he's already and Mica said,

502
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Speaker 1: you know, and we're always, you know, spending time. He's

503
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Speaker 1: all he's And Michael was the one that said he

504
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 1: loves the game. He just loves football. So when you

505
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Speaker 1: start thinking about it from that perspective, I'm like, I'm

506
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 1: not gonna put anything past daman Clark, and the talent

507
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 1: certainly is there. I think he's a guy that most

508
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Speaker 1: draft analists said would have been a first second round pick,

509
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Speaker 1: but not for the injury. So I'm looking at Dad

510
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 1: and saying, you know, Barb might be he might want

511
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Speaker 1: to hurry him get back. Oh yeah, because because the

512
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 1: more time he's out, the more time this young buck

513
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Speaker 1: has an opportunity to maybe step in there and show

514
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Speaker 1: him something. And again, one of the things about him

515
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: that you know is he was in What they talked

516
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: about is in pre draft was not only is he

517
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: good at stopping run, as far as a tackler getting

518
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: to the ball sideline, the sideline He's also good at coverage,

519
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: so again, he becomes a player that maybe is out

520
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: there on every single down. If he can get to

521
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Speaker 1: that level this year, toward the end of this year,

522
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Speaker 1: even that's gonna be as valuable as any other thing

523
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Speaker 1: on this team, especially if he's a playmaking type linebacker. Yeah,

524
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: he's early. I mean he's I mean, like to our

525
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: I guess to our standards in our minds, like he's early.

526
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Speaker 1: But I think that is a testament of his work ethic.

527
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: I talked about on our show, shout at him out like,

528
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 1: can't discount like this his work ethic and how he

529
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Speaker 1: got here. But when you look at his history, I mean,

530
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Speaker 1: I don't know a whole bunch about LSU because I

531
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: don't listen. I'm just not getting the college ball, y'all.

532
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: Don't get Brian starts, you guys. But you know from

533
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Speaker 1: my knowledge and wearing a number eighteen, it's a big deal.

534
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Speaker 1: So absolutely so when you started looking at LSU, some

535
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: of the great players we've seen come out of that

536
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: that college in his last couple of years, especially, hey man,

537
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: you gotta think like it's not just about the football, right,

538
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 1: So I'm not surprised by that, the fact that he

539
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: was even doing that. I'm also not surprised at this

540
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,959
Speaker 1: fact that he out there because people are spoken so

541
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Speaker 1: highly of him. I took a deep dive after we

542
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: drafted him out the Cowboys drafting him and to his character.

543
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: But I do, I do agree with you that this

544
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: guy is like his right now, he's just playing instinctively.

545
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: He's just you know, but dan Quinn I think even

546
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: talked about No, not dan Quinn, it was George Edwards

547
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: talked about him even you know, reading some things correctly

548
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: that maybe he wasn't they maybe they didn't expect for

549
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 1: him to just know already, but that lets you know

550
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: he's in his books. I think the processing is something

551
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: that he's gonna work on and continue. And because he's

552
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: kind of early, he has almost half of a season

553
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: possibly to come in and start getting those mental reps.

554
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: And who better, who better to be paired with than Mica.

555
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: It sounds like they're like minded because it's one thing

556
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 1: that Micah talks about his love for footba ball and

557
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: he talks about it being played the right way, you know,

558
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: the correct way. So I think that it's interesting that

559
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: Mica is an example out here like for what players

560
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: want to be. So I'm excited to see those guys together.

561
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. That's good to know that they

562
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: are already a gel in and connecting like that. And

563
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: another thing to note, I don't know if you guys

564
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Speaker 1: saw it. I saw a tweet earlier this week. I

565
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: can't remember who it was from, but they said that

566
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: next gen stats had him running in this last game

567
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: had the moon Clark running at I think twenty two points,

568
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: so he can rouse pours the fastest that any player

569
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Speaker 1: on the Cowboys has running this season. That that tells

570
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Speaker 1: you a lot. And Michael even said, you know how

571
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Speaker 1: competitive Mike is. He's like, yeah, he's fast to me,

572
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: like he even admitted it. And that's that demon Clark

573
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: can run. So you get a linebacker that can really

574
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Speaker 1: run once they figure it out and the game slows

575
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Speaker 1: down a little bit before them, look out, man, I'm

576
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: telling you this is gonna be. This is going to

577
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 1: be quite a pick for the Cowboys. And I don't

578
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Speaker 1: know if you're going to see the full extent of

579
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: it this year or wait till next year, but at

580
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: some point this was gonna pay off. I think you'd

581
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: love to see it. And what makes that quality you

582
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: talk about is him being, you know, a learner. He's

583
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 1: coachable out there and he loves to learn and everything

584
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: like that. Because there's some guys like myself when I

585
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: was playing, I treated it like a job, like this

586
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: is my job. I liked football, but I wasn't in

587
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: love with football. And there's other guys that go from

588
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: good to great like Shanley. He was entrenched in football

589
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: like he took it here, he took it home. He

590
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: was everywhere football. It was his life was football, and

591
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: that's what made him so great. So hopefully, you know,

592
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: Damon Clark, he can have those same characteristics where I

593
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: love the game, I want to learn about the game.

594
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a part of me twenty four

595
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Speaker 1: to seven, and it sounds like he has that mentality already.

596
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Speaker 1: All right, next question for you guys. If Tyler Smith,

597
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Tyron Smith returns in December, who would be

598
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Speaker 1: your starting five offensive linemen? There you go, don't just

599
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Speaker 1: be starting at Tyren Smith. Tyren's back. If he's back

600
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Speaker 1: in December, my starting offensive line will be Tyler Smith

601
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Speaker 1: at the left guard, McGovern at the u left guard,

602
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry Tyler Smith at the left tackle, MC ever

603
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: have to left guard, But yall just had the center,

604
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: Zach Martin att right guard, and Terrence still at the

605
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: right tackle. So Tyron is not getting a job back. No,

606
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: he's not getting his job back. And the reason I

607
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: say that is because by that time this unit will

608
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 1: have already jailed and they're playing good football right now.

609
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: As you see they're protecting Dak Prescott out there. They're

610
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: moving people out of the way for this running game

611
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: to get going. I understand the player that Tyren Smith

612
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: is when he's healthy, He's a heck of a player,

613
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: Hall of fame resume. I get all that. But as

614
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: this unit they're jailed right now, I don't want to

615
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: see because that's gonna be a rotation in an offensive line.

616
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: You can't really have a rotation like that, like I

617
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: hated when they had Peter's rotating in from a government like.

618
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: Let the guy get established in the game, let him

619
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Speaker 1: get that momentum, let him understand how the play callings going,

620
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: and get a feel for the game. When you guys

621
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: rotate like that, it gets people, you know, out of whack.

622
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: You know, I can see if it was a D

623
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: line because D line you got a rotate. You gotta

624
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: get fresh bodies in there to get after the quarterback.

625
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: But there's some units where you don't need to rotate.

626
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: Into me, safety, you don't need to rotate. Secondary like corner,

627
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: no rotation, Linebacker, no rotation, offensive line, no rotation. To me,

628
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: stick with the unit that's getting things done. When you

629
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Speaker 1: add a guy like Tyren Smith in there, I understand,

630
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: hall of fame resume, like I said, but I just

631
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: think it'll mess up the jail a little bit. And

632
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: these guys right now, they're understanding the strengths and the

633
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: weaknesses of each other. All right, I gotta help this

634
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: guy on this play because you know he's not as

635
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: strong here, or I gotta make sure this guy has

636
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: my back because I'm kind of weak in this situation.

637
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: They understand each other's strengths and weaknesses out there, and

638
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: I think if you add Tyren Smith in there on

639
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Speaker 1: a rotation basis, I just think it'll mess up the

640
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Speaker 1: whole continuity, all the offensive line. So I understand he's

641
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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame player, but to me, keep that

642
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Speaker 1: unit going. They're playing pretty well right now. Yeah, it's

643
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Speaker 1: the struggle of the conversation of best five right now,

644
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Speaker 1: right now. And I do think Cowboys got some some

645
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Speaker 1: road games coming up here later in the season that

646
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Speaker 1: I think the communication and stuff is gonna matter on

647
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Speaker 1: this offensive line. And when you do start talking about

648
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Speaker 1: continuity again, like I think that is important moving into

649
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Speaker 1: some of this latter's part of your season, when you're

650
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Speaker 1: going to be going to places like a Lambo and

651
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Speaker 1: all these like it's it's loud in these places. And

652
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Speaker 1: so also I think that was a problem when you

653
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Speaker 1: start looking back at last year. I think that was

654
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Speaker 1: a problem that arises in the forty nine Ers game,

655
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Speaker 1: is that the offensive line there was communication errors everywhere,

656
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Speaker 1: and I think that was a product. I think the

657
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: false starts and the mistakes were a product of a

658
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Speaker 1: lot of miscommunication. And also when you start talking about

659
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Speaker 1: your offensive line, it's not just about the offensive line,

660
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: it's about your quarterback too. And your quarterback is just

661
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: now getting back and starting to jail with these guys

662
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Speaker 1: and get that cadence together and get that time in together.

663
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Speaker 1: So I also do worry about you know them coming in.

664
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Speaker 1: We'll bring in Tyler, Tyler tying in and Tyler being moved.

665
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Speaker 1: I still I don't know. I still think it's still

666
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Speaker 1: a possibility just because of the seniority that's involved in stuff.

667
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Speaker 1: But I agree with you Barry that if you don't

668
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Speaker 1: want to break up that continuity this is that probably

669
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Speaker 1: is the best bet to just keep Tyler where he

670
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Speaker 1: is and have mccover in there. But how do you

671
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Speaker 1: find way? Do you find ways to get Tyrant on

672
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Speaker 1: the front? They're going to find a way, I will

673
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Speaker 1: tell you this. And you heard Jerry Jones. He was

674
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Speaker 1: on one or five to three the Fan earlier this week,

675
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Speaker 1: and I heard him say when they asked him about

676
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Speaker 1: Tyron Smith, he said, look, you know, try it's hard

677
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Speaker 1: to think. And actually it might have been Steven now

678
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Speaker 1: I think about it, but it was one of the

679
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Speaker 1: two of them. And they say, it's hard to imagine

680
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Speaker 1: that Tyrant Smith is not one of your top five

681
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Speaker 1: offensive linemen. So he's gonna play football, is what we

682
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: would expect. Now. And here's the deal I do expect

683
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Speaker 1: because of being around here so long and seeing how

684
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Speaker 1: things are typically done, it would be I would be

685
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Speaker 1: shocked if Tyrn doesn't come back and get his job

686
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Speaker 1: at because I just think they kind of operate like

687
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Speaker 1: that around here. Now. I agree with you, Barry. I

688
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: don't think it's necessarily the right answer. And the reason

689
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: why I don't is more so about the future. If

690
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Speaker 1: you're if you know Tyrant is not your long term answer,

691
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: which I think everybody agrees that that's probably the case.

692
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: He's towards the end of his career, and you've now

693
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: identified the solution, like you've already had done to fight it.

694
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: He is playing well now, he's out perfect. I get that,

695
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: but he's playing well. I don't want to sit that

696
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: guy down. I kind of want to get him out

697
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: there now. There's also the convention of the wisdom that

698
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: sometimes people say, well, sometimes a young guy can learn

699
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: after he's played some sitting down a little bit sometimes

700
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: can give him a chance to kind of take his

701
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Speaker 1: breath and learn even more from the sideline. And and

702
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Speaker 1: and I don't know if that I necessarily buy that

703
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Speaker 1: when you're talking about an offensive lineman, m So for me,

704
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Speaker 1: I would rather just keep the guy going. And I'll

705
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Speaker 1: also throw on this other little thing. Going back to

706
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Speaker 1: training camp this year, I don't think. I don't think

707
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Speaker 1: Tyrone was playing as we know Tyron And if Tyron

708
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Speaker 1: comes back and he's not the Pro Bowl tyrant after weeks. Yeah,

709
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Speaker 1: if he's, if he's the guy that that we saw

710
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Speaker 1: during training camp, I don't know that I want to

711
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: go to that from what Tyler is doing right now,

712
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: to stop Tyler's development, that's not worth it to me

713
00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: in my opinion. Yeah, but no, no, no, no, I agree.

714
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Speaker 1: I did. I guess I've thought about that, but I hadn't.

715
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: I didn't think to bring it up. It's the fact

716
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: that like, yeah, Tyring, when you looked at him in camp,

717
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: like it it wasn't always, Um, it wasn't always what

718
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: you expect to see from Tyring. And then also too

719
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: again like this is an extension of what some of

720
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: the things we saw later last year as well. So

721
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: I just I want to be fair to the rook

722
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: and his development and what he is doing. Um. And

723
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: like you talked, like we talked about Barry, it matters

724
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 1: going into the latter part of the season that your

725
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: left tack was confident also, like you want him to

726
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Speaker 1: be confident and that you well, yeah, you wanted to

727
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Speaker 1: be confident in his ability, um, And so I don't

728
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Speaker 1: want to diminish that also by bringing in and just

729
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Speaker 1: giving him a spot back, like, just is that how

730
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Speaker 1: we work here? Na? Look, I thought it was a meritocracy,

731
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: but well you know that. And that's actually interesting point

732
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Speaker 1: because if Tony Romo can lose his job to injury,

733
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Speaker 1: anybody can lose. But know what's gonna happen. Ry, come on,

734
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Speaker 1: I don't want it to happen, but you know he's

735
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Speaker 1: gonna get his spot. But I have a hard time

736
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: thing he's not. I really do. See was that last

737
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: year the man you in self inflicting five games off?

738
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: Terrence Steele is playing great ball all of a sudden,

739
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: boot he's back in the lineup. If you're if you're

740
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Speaker 1: one of those favorites, they're gonna find a way to

741
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: put you in the lineup. And look, I don't think

742
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: it's the right thing to do, but we all know

743
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. He's gonna slide in there on some

744
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: type of rotational basis and it might mess up the continuity,

745
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: but that's what that's what it is, what it is,

746
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Speaker 1: And let's also sorry, sorry if it makes sense in

747
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Speaker 1: some packages, I'm not gonna complain about it. But at

748
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Speaker 1: the same time, I don't know I guess it just

749
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Speaker 1: depends on what you're who you're playing, and what it's what,

750
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Speaker 1: what how Kelly uses him if he does, if it's

751
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: just a situational thing. But I think that the starting

752
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Speaker 1: five should stayed away. But you know, we as we

753
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Speaker 1: also have to remember too that and this is being

754
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Speaker 1: fair to the coaches and the front office. Sometimes hard

755
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Speaker 1: to get past history when you have history with a

756
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: guy where you know him to be great. And Tyren

757
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: Smith for his career here has been great. I mean,

758
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: and there there have been some situations where he played

759
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: through injuries and was still great, and so it's hard

760
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: sometimes to get your mind to get past this guy

761
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: isn't great anymore. Like's you just keep saying, look, he

762
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: might have some struggles here or there, but I still

763
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: know this guy is being great, and so it is harder.

764
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Speaker 1: And that's why I think sometimes you see the vet

765
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Speaker 1: come back, and the Vet's gonna get his job, because

766
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Speaker 1: the coaches the front office still look at him and say,

767
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: and this guy, he's just I've seen him be great,

768
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Speaker 1: and I trust the fact that he's gonna be great.

769
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Speaker 1: And until they are proven wrong, beyond the shadow of doubt,

770
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Speaker 1: they're gonna keep rolling with the fact that he's gonna

771
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Speaker 1: be great. So and by the way, let's also be clear,

772
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Tyren Smith will come back and

773
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's given up three four sacks

774
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: a game. That's not gonna be the case. Tyren Smith

775
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: will be a good player. I just don't know if

776
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: for a good player, I'm willing to stop the progress

777
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Speaker 1: of my rookie. I would need him to be great

778
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: for me to want to stop the progress my rookie,

779
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure he's that anymore. Yeah, And like

780
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: we talked about it in camp. You know, Tyler Smith

781
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: got all his REPSITT guard everything I guard. They just

782
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: threw him in the fire and he's doing an excellent

783
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: job in my opinion at that left tackle position. So

784
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: you know, why would you block that, you know, for

785
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: for a guy who's you know, on his last leg.

786
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: We understand how he's dealt with a lot of injuries.

787
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Speaker 1: And for the goal that you guys are going for,

788
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Speaker 1: like you're going for that long one, you're trying to

789
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: make it to the super Bowl. I think continuity matters,

790
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: and that offensive line matters, and if you try to

791
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Speaker 1: next with that going into the playoffs. I think it

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795
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Speaker 1: tackle just in case, you know, just in cases because

797
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850
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Speaker 1: a recliner. What you got? What kind of relos? The

851
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: name of it? I have no idea. Something to wife,

852
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: but like she handles all that kind of stuff. It is. Yeah,

853
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: I will watch Texas. I will watch that. Actually, look yeah,

854
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: look look at me. My team has not disappointing me

855
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: this year because I don't have expectations. Okay, I arned.

856
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: I don't go into the season of the expectations. I'm

857
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: just like I will enjoy every game as a standalone thing.

858
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: And so this weekend I'm looking forward to another standalone

859
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: opportunity to watch my too hard to do though, Like

860
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: when you watch it now when you don't have now,

861
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: when you don't have expectations, but do you really not have?

862
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: Like yes? And I like literally me and my buddies

863
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: will text each other like, man, you're watching this, I'm

864
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: watching this. Yeah you're upset. Yeah I'm upset. But I

865
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: also promised myself I'm not gonna let teenage just dictate

866
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: my move. There you go there. When this game is over,

867
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: if I'm sit back, I'm gonna be like, man, they

868
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: messed that one up. Oh well, went on. I did

869
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: it for years. I did it for years though I

870
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: did it for years. I let it. I let them.

871
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: They would have me hot for a whole week. I

872
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: can't do it. That was them right right here. They grown.

873
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: I'm letting kids dictate my move like no out. Yeah,

874
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm not doing enough together, I'm not doing that. All right,

875
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: let's back here. We got some more questions to be

876
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: you guys. I hope you excuse man, I hope you

877
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 1: get K state, the tut K state, not the Oklahoma stake. Yeah,

878
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: I know, I know that I'm worried about Hope defense. Yeah, exactly,

879
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 1: and we do sometimes other times it can be a problem,

880
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: but Dudu's fun serious like he is a problem. Blow

881
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: So we'll say Chris, it'll be fun. Yeah, shout out Chris.

882
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: All right, So, um, here's the next question for you guys.

883
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: More important for the second half of the season and

884
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: the post these season stopping the run on the defense

885
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: or offensively scoring thirty points plus per game? Ain't that

886
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: what the Chiefs knowing? Yeah, and that's what I'm saying,

887
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: Like both neither one of them are things we're consistently

888
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: doing that we're consistently seeing here with the Cowboys. So

889
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: which one do you think they need more heading down

890
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: the rest of the season and into the playoffs if

891
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: they're going to be successful. I would think just the

892
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: offense matching I think, yeah, I think the scoring for

893
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: the offense, you'll give up the run and do what

894
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: they've been doing for thirty plus points a game. Well, yeah,

895
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: because in the run, I mean, like, let people ain't

896
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: just besides this past week, people ain't just scoring on

897
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: you in the run excessively. More importantly, like people, a

898
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: lot of the teams are running out of necessity because

899
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: they cannot do anything else. So it's like it's a

900
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: it's a matchup problem. So the run like that, and

901
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: I have to remind myself of them of that when

902
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: they're getting gashed in the run. You gotta think teams

903
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: are schematically just trying to run the ball on you

904
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: because they are afraid to do anything else. So when

905
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: you're seeing that you're run, your defense is seeing the

906
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: brunt of like what's going on with their run, Like

907
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well that they're dictating their offensive plan

908
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: to run the ball. So I think that offensively, if

909
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: you add scoring more points to them already trying to

910
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: dictate that, you're causing them to make two changes like,

911
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: oh no, we have to go pass, we have to

912
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: go score, But they're already planning and pre planning. Just

913
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: made a fantastic point on our show. The Bears have

914
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: been prepping for the Cowboys game two weeks brighter. So

915
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: that puts perspective for you how much teams are trying

916
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: to scheme to make sure they can run the ball

917
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: successfully because passing is almost like for what they don't

918
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: want to don't risk their quarterback. Not they don't want

919
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: to risk their quarterback, but it also is it's just

920
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: difficult to have any time back there. So I would

921
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: say the offense putting up points, putting up points early

922
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: because again there's not that many teams like the Bears

923
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: that are like and even de Marcus Lawd's even talked about.

924
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: He was like, they were still running and I think

925
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: they expected them to start passing. Most teams would start

926
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: passing in those situations. So with that, me and said,

927
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, make them make choices, business decisions. So are

928
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: we saying that this defense is still going to be

929
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: able to do what it can do, you know, holding

930
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: teams to what seventeen points are? Like that? Okay, So

931
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: if that's the key, I mean, honestly, that's what they've

932
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: been to it. They're holding teams to point. Like I

933
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 1: used to said, they're not giving up a ton of points.

934
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: They're giving a bunch of yards. That's a bunch of

935
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: rushing yards. So if they keep doing that, but they

936
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: can get thirty plus points, which one do you prefer?

937
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: Ongoing offensively? Then yeah, let does offense get thirty some points,

938
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: because then I think you've become unbeatable because if your

939
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: offense is putting up thirty some points a game, you know,

940
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: teams can't stick with the run consistently like that. We've

941
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: seen Chicago. They try to stick with the running. They

942
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: still got smacked by twenty some points out there. So

943
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: this defense is doing a heck of a job. You know,

944
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: they may not be able to stop the run, but

945
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: when it comes to the red zone, they are great

946
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: when it comes to force and teams to hit field

947
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: goals instead of getting touchdowns. And I believe if you

948
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: can continue with that formula and have this defense only

949
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: giving up seventeen points per game and you have your

950
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: offense exploding, then I mean the sky's a limit. Because

951
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: this team was still able to put up or still

952
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: able to win games when your offense was struggling out there,

953
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: when Dak Prescott wasn't in there for five games, your

954
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: defensive and your team was still winning because they were

955
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: holding teams to such low points out there. If they're

956
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: able to continue to do that by giving up maybe

957
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty yards rushing in the game, I'll

958
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: take that. As long as your offense is explosive as well,

959
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: they become pretty much an unbeatable team there. Okay, So

960
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: there's what I'm gonna do. If we got We don't

961
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: have much time, but I gotta ask this one last

962
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: question because I gotta get you guys on the record

963
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: on this one. Which camp do you falling? Because this

964
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: is the biggest conversation going on about the Cowboys right now,

965
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: media pology, get more carries or keep things as they are?

966
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: How many carries? Fourteen? Yeah, that's fine, And I think

967
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: he'd agree after saying how when did he was after

968
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: the game? All Right, that's my thoughts on it. That's fine.

969
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: I mean fourteen, I mean about that range. Like, he's

970
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 1: fine to me, and I think that's gonna be good

971
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: for his body and for what he does for this team.

972
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 1: I'm good with it. Maybe a few more, I doubt

973
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm good with that as well. Fourteen carries to me

974
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: is good. I mean he's that change of pace back.

975
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: We understand what Zeke brings to the table. He's that

976
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: tender riser. He gets teams, you know, worn down. So

977
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: then Tony Pollard comes in there and bust a big one.

978
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: I like where he's at right now, that fourteen, But

979
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: between fourteen and eighteen carries, I think you get the

980
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: most out of Polar You're not wearing them down. He

981
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: still get that explosiveness with that carry amount. So I'm

982
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: good where it's at. And then you know, next year

983
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: we'll come to the table again. Yeah, I would even say,

984
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm good with that and that number being

985
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: between ten and fifteen in a game like to me,

986
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: I look at Tony Pollard as the kind of guy

987
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: and this goes back. I know. Patrick Walker wrote a

988
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: really good article yesterday where he had some time. They

989
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: all all the media talk to us Skip Pete yesterday,

990
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: but he was quoting Skip and some of the stuff

991
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: that he was saying and going back to training camp.

992
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: This was something I talked to Skip about it. He

993
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: is very convicted on the idea that you need two backs,

994
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: and especially when you got two backs that have two

995
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: different running styles. It he's the way he describes it

996
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: is it's a lot different and Bear you probably can

997
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: appreciate this as being a form of safety. Your angle

998
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: when you're trying to hit Dak and how you're approaching Dak.

999
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm not Dak, I'm sorry. Zeke when he's running the ball,

1000
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: how you're going to attack him, it's very different then Tony.

1001
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: So if you're doing that, you're hitting Zeke, You're trying

1002
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: to get to where he's gonna be, You're trying to

1003
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: make the tackle, and then all of a sudden you

1004
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: got Poller coming at you. Your angles all messed up,

1005
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: how you approach him, how you have to hit him.

1006
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: All that stuff is now different, and you expect you

1007
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: force defenses to have to adjust on the fly when

1008
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 1: Tony Poller has the ball versus when Zeke has the ball,

1009
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: And he says that makes a huge difference, something he's

1010
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: always believed in as a coach here in the NFL.

1011
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: And so you look at it from that standpoint, I

1012
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: think there's a lot being made about nothing I don't

1013
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: think this is a problem. I actually think this running

1014
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: game is a strength. And I know people say you

1015
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: can get better at it, but is that really gonna

1016
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: be better? Tony Pollard I think actually performs best when

1017
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: he's in that ten to fifteen Carrie mode and trying

1018
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: to get above that, you're probably gonna get a It's

1019
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: gonna be the law of diminishing return. And then especially

1020
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: you know, not only say these, but defensive line as well,

1021
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: because when you're you're holding onto that block, you see,

1022
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: all right, ze got got some time that you know,

1023
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: kind of play with this because he's gonna hit the

1024
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: whole lot slower than boom. Here here comes Pollard hitting

1025
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: a hole. You gotta, you know, get off your block

1026
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: even quicker so that change the pace. Like you said,

1027
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: it works in the secondary as well as a defensive line,

1028
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: and I think they hit gold. This little thunder and

1029
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: lightning combo they got going on right now, it's pretty legit. Yeah,

1030
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 1: it's working, And I don't think that's something you necessarily

1031
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: need to mess with. There are lots of other things

1032
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: you can mess with on this team if you want

1033
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: to just go and look for things to get crazy

1034
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: and wild about. That's not one of them. It ain't broke,

1035
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: don't fix it as it go. All right. We appreciate

1036
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: you guys joining us. We appreciate you guys coming in.

1037
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: Are the Break, and don't be a stranger. If any

1038
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: time you want to come through, you more than well

1039
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: gonna come through. I'll kick somebody out for Yata. I'm

1040
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: gonna come bust. It isn't all right. From Barry Church,

1041
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: I used Morrison. I'm Derek Hilton. This has been The

1042
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,399
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1043
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