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Speaker 1: I'm Jason timp. I appreciate you guys coming to hang out.
Speaker 1: We are almost two the start of the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1: The matchup that I wanted this whole time, the teams
Speaker 1: that I'm most excited to see faced off Boston and
Speaker 1: Golden State today. In this video, we are going to
Speaker 1: break down every single element of this series. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about their regular season matchups as much as you
Speaker 1: can take away from them. Since the NBA regular season
Speaker 1: continues to provide almost no information about what the end
Speaker 1: of the book is going to be like, We're gonna
Speaker 1: look at both sides of the basketball, what it looks
Speaker 1: like with Golden State on offense and what it looks
Speaker 1: like with Boston on offense, and then we're gonna look
Speaker 1: at some series why dynamics, some experience factors, and some
Speaker 1: other elements of the game that I think are going
Speaker 1: to play a factor in this series. So let's start
Speaker 1: with the regular season now. As is typically the case
Speaker 1: for teams that are playing across conference lines, they only
Speaker 1: played twice. Golden State won the early matchup back in one,
Speaker 1: and then Boston won a game in March where Steph
Speaker 1: got hurt in the second quarter. Um they played, there
Speaker 1: were forty one minutes with both Tatum and Steph on
Speaker 1: the floor together at the same time. In those minutes,
Speaker 1: Golden State average ninety four points per one hundred possessions
Speaker 1: and Boston averaged a hundred and nine point three points
Speaker 1: per one hundred possessions. So the regular season stuff doesn't
Speaker 1: look good for Golden State. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: it didn't look good for Golden State in the Dallas
Speaker 1: matchup either, and that ended up meaning absolutely nothing. So
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what you can take from that regular
Speaker 1: season series was one one I would say, for the
Speaker 1: most part, it doesn't really apply. I tried to watch
Speaker 1: the tape as much as possible, just to look at
Speaker 1: physical matchups and look at like specific plays. What did
Speaker 1: it look like when Steph tried to guard Tatum, What
Speaker 1: did it look like when Marcus Smart tried to guard Steph?
Speaker 1: You know, like those kinds of things to try to
Speaker 1: pick up on those little details. Both teams ran drop
Speaker 1: coverage for the most part in both games with their
Speaker 1: big men, so with Keval Luniar, with Rob Williams or
Speaker 1: with Al Horford. That you again, in the NBA regular season,
Speaker 1: teams love to run drop because it protects the paint
Speaker 1: and if you're gonna eat innings in the regular season
Speaker 1: just to try to get through the eighty two games,
Speaker 1: might as well take away the paint make teams beat
Speaker 1: you with the jump shot. So it's pretty typical to
Speaker 1: see that sort of thing. It's hard to say how
Speaker 1: much they'll play drop in this playoff series, in this
Speaker 1: NBA Finals series, but then again, like Boston ran drop
Speaker 1: almost exclusively against Miami for whatever reason, so it could
Speaker 1: be a matchup thing, But we're gonna get into that
Speaker 1: here in just a minute. A couple of outlier performances.
Speaker 1: Uh Andrew Wiggins had a twenty seven point game in
Speaker 1: the Tatum matchup. Covon Looney had seven offensive rebounds in
Speaker 1: the two games. Offensive rebounding is gonna be really interesting
Speaker 1: swing factor in the series. Golden State has been a
Speaker 1: great rebounding team in this playoff run. Boston not so much.
Speaker 1: They ranked third out of the four conference finalist teams
Speaker 1: in defensive rebound percentage. They struggled to secure defensive rebounds
Speaker 1: against both Milwaukee and Miami. That's something I think Golden
Speaker 1: State will try to exploit. And then Jordan Pool, you
Speaker 1: had a twenty nine point game in the step in
Speaker 1: the game that Steph got hurt. Obviously, Boston blew them
Speaker 1: out in that game, but Pool demonstrated that he can
Speaker 1: score against this Boston defense. So that's something that should
Speaker 1: be encouraging for Golden State fans. Let's start with Golden
Speaker 1: State on offense. So the number one swing factor I
Speaker 1: think in this matchup is gonna be what coverage Boston
Speaker 1: goes with. You guys know, I'm a big believer in
Speaker 1: switching as is always the case when you pick a
Speaker 1: different coverage, there's a given a take. So obviously, if
Speaker 1: you're a proponent of drop, you're gonna dislike things about switching,
Speaker 1: like giving up seize mismatches on rebounding opportunities, giving up
Speaker 1: seize mismatches for post ups or on the perimeter, or
Speaker 1: a quickness mismatch with a big man guarding a small guard.
Speaker 1: You're concerned about mismatches and switching situations. That's typical to me.
Speaker 1: I just think the pros of switching the way that
Speaker 1: it can bait teams into isolation basketball, disrupt their actions,
Speaker 1: make it so that when they run their sets they
Speaker 1: don't get open shots. I tend to think that those
Speaker 1: vastly outweigh the hans and switching, But people have different
Speaker 1: opinions there. Against Miami, I thought for sure Boston would
Speaker 1: switch because switching tests your dribble creation, your ability to
Speaker 1: beat mismatches off the dribble. In Miami only had one
Speaker 1: guy on the roster who was a good mismatch attacker
Speaker 1: and Jimmy Butler, so I thought if they did a
Speaker 1: lot of switching, they'd be able to basically play into
Speaker 1: Miami's weaknesses. And have the most success. I also thought,
Speaker 1: you know, with guys like Max Strus and Gave Vinson
Speaker 1: and Kyle Lowry and Tyler Harrow that all love to
Speaker 1: come flying off the screens with lots of space to
Speaker 1: elevate and pull up a jump shot, why would you
Speaker 1: run drop? It allows them to get those looks that
Speaker 1: they otherwise wouldn't be able to get. And in spite
Speaker 1: of all of that email, Judoka ran drop the entire series.
Speaker 1: It was obviously part of the game plan. He was
Speaker 1: banking that Miami's wouldn't shoot well. Into his defense, they
Speaker 1: didn't shoot well. But I also thought it was Boston's
Speaker 1: worst defensive series in terms of the numbers that they
Speaker 1: gave up with in the con text of the level
Speaker 1: of talent they were playing. So that's gonna be an
Speaker 1: interesting element. Will they continue to run drop against this
Speaker 1: Golden State team? And again, and I shared clips on
Speaker 1: my Twitter feed. You guys can see it there. In
Speaker 1: both regular season matchups this year against Golden State, Boston
Speaker 1: ran drop. And so that'll be a really interesting thing
Speaker 1: to see because I would think that baiting Steph and
Speaker 1: Jordan pool into isolation situations, which yeah, they're gonna take
Speaker 1: your bigs and they're gonna beat them off the dribble.
Speaker 1: But in terms of the physical wear and tear it
Speaker 1: takes to try to convince those guys to repeatedly put
Speaker 1: their head down and go to the rim. I like
Speaker 1: that as a as a game plan option better than
Speaker 1: the idea of dropping. But I'm really curious to see
Speaker 1: what they do if they play drop. I expect guys
Speaker 1: like Stephen Jordan's pool to burn them and Clay Thompson
Speaker 1: to burn them. So I'm really really curious to see, uh,
Speaker 1: which defensive strategy Boston goes with. We will know a
Speaker 1: lot more after Game one in that department. In Game one,
Speaker 1: and in particular, I think we're gonna see a really
Speaker 1: interesting dynamic because there's there's two elements. An element that
Speaker 1: either team is going to have to face that's gonna
Speaker 1: be very, very different than what they've faced in previous
Speaker 1: series is with Golden State on offense. So I've talked
Speaker 1: about this with before, with you guys adjusting to length
Speaker 1: and athleticism. I thought this was a huge thing that
Speaker 1: hurt Dallas early in the season or early in the
Speaker 1: series against Phoenix. The reason why they fell down to
Speaker 1: oh in my opinion, when you go from playing against
Speaker 1: a certain level of defensive personnel to an entirely different
Speaker 1: level of defensive personnel, a ton more length, a ton
Speaker 1: more athleticism, there's usually an adjustment period as you get
Speaker 1: used to the different habits that you have to have
Speaker 1: to succeed against that kind of length and athleticism. I've
Speaker 1: told this story on the show before, but like I
Speaker 1: played at the college level, is a good basketball player.
Speaker 1: But I play against amateurs now. But almost every summer
Speaker 1: a bunch of pros and college players come back into town,
Speaker 1: and that's when I get with those guys that I
Speaker 1: work out with them, and I play with them almost
Speaker 1: every time. There's an adjustment for me just getting you
Speaker 1: to the increased length and athleticism. It's just, you know,
Speaker 1: that post entury pass that you made, maybe you need
Speaker 1: to make a pass fake first this time, which you
Speaker 1: perceived to be an opening in a passing lane might
Speaker 1: not be an opening against a better athlete. There's an
Speaker 1: adjustment period there. So Golden State is going to have
Speaker 1: to adjust to the massively better defensive personnel that Boston
Speaker 1: has compared to Dallas. The flip side of that is
Speaker 1: Golden State's movement. Boston has played pretty traditional offensive machines
Speaker 1: to this point. Brooklyn and Miami and UH and Milwaukee
Speaker 1: all ran a lot of high pick and roll. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of isolation. It's a lot of the same
Speaker 1: stuff that they've seen at every single level against the
Speaker 1: other twenty eight teams in the league. Against Golden State,
Speaker 1: their offense doesn't resemble anything that anybody else does. This
Speaker 1: is a huge part of white Golden State is always
Speaker 1: so good at the beginning of series. There's an adjustment
Speaker 1: period to adjust to the way they run their offense.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't look like anything else that you see,
Speaker 1: and you can get caught off guard. The types of
Speaker 1: switches and coverages that you run against the traditional offense
Speaker 1: don't look the same as they do against Golden State.
Speaker 1: So in Game one, it's gonna be an interesting battle.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna adjust quicker. Will Golden State adjust to Boston's
Speaker 1: length and athleticism on defense quicker or will Boston adjust
Speaker 1: to Golden State's motion and movement and off ball threat quicker.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the swing factor in Game one against
Speaker 1: drop coverage. If Boston goes withdrop a huge part it's
Speaker 1: gonna be how much contact is Golden State allowed to
Speaker 1: get away with on these screens, Because Golden State does
Speaker 1: set a lot of moving screens, just like everybody else
Speaker 1: in the league. So it's not a slander in that regard,
Speaker 1: but they do set a lot of moving screens. If
Speaker 1: they are allowed to, Boston players will get caught on screens,
Speaker 1: Guys will get open looks if that's held a little
Speaker 1: bit more, you know, by the book, by the refs,
Speaker 1: that gives Boston a huge advantage chasing guys over the
Speaker 1: top of screen. So that will be an interesting dynamic
Speaker 1: there against the switch as is always the case, you guys,
Speaker 1: uh go, the State's gonna get a certain amount of
Speaker 1: open dunks and layups against Boston switching defense, just because
Speaker 1: of how confusing it could be to track everybody. Just
Speaker 1: because how confusing it can be when there's three players
Speaker 1: in an action, or when you get Steph Clay and
Speaker 1: Jordan Pool in an action and everybody panics and excellently
Speaker 1: chases the wrong guy. They're gonna get a certain amount
Speaker 1: of stuff out of that. However, there will be a
Speaker 1: considerable amount of possessions where when Boston switches. It bits
Speaker 1: Boston or Golden State into a situation or Steaf or
Speaker 1: Jordan Poole has the ball against the matchup that they
Speaker 1: like and they have to do something. And for both teams,
Speaker 1: because we're gonna talk about this with Boston in a second,
Speaker 1: it's just vitally important that you get dribble penetration and
Speaker 1: you engage help defenders so that you can get the
Speaker 1: defense and rotation and not fall into the trap of
Speaker 1: pull up dribble off the dribble isolation jump shots which
Speaker 1: stagnate you and get your teammates out of rhythm. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be for both teams when they're in those switching environments.
Speaker 1: Both team have to get persistent rim pressure. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move forward to Boston on offense. So once again,
Speaker 1: Golden State ran dropped in the regular season in this
Speaker 1: matchup with Kevon Looney. I'm really curious to see what
Speaker 1: they do because Miami ran a lot of drop in
Speaker 1: the regular season with bam at a bio, but then
Speaker 1: they did a lot more switching against Boston. I think
Speaker 1: switching is a genius defense to run against Boston because
Speaker 1: it tests their decision making because it puts the onus
Speaker 1: on Tatum and Brown and Smart to not play the
Speaker 1: game they want to play, which is to get into
Speaker 1: their bag and mix people up, but rather get them
Speaker 1: to really focus on having to get dribble penetration. And
Speaker 1: more often than not they don't do that, they get
Speaker 1: stagnant and they have issues. So I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be really important for Golden State to take a note
Speaker 1: from Miami's book, a lot of switching, a lot of zone,
Speaker 1: just like they did against Dallas, to mix things up,
Speaker 1: make things complicated. They ran a lot of zone in
Speaker 1: their second matchup against Boston this year, again because Draymond
Speaker 1: Green was out, but I expect to see a lot
Speaker 1: of zone as well. But that switching instead of dropping
Speaker 1: as much as possible, and then the classics Steve Kerr
Speaker 1: mixing up coverages I think is going to go a
Speaker 1: long way now against switching. What did Boston do against Miami.
Speaker 1: They relentlessly attacked Max Truce, They relentlessly attacked Tyler Harrow
Speaker 1: when he was healthy, and Gabe Vincent. They will do
Speaker 1: the same thing against Jordan's pool and staff. Now here's
Speaker 1: the thing. I said the same thing about the Dallas
Speaker 1: Mavericks but Dallas was unable to consistently attack Steph and
Speaker 1: Jordan's pool because Steve Kerr had an easy fix hedge
Speaker 1: and recover. He would just have Steph or Jordan or
Speaker 1: whoever it was. When their man would come set of screen,
Speaker 1: they would hedge, which would force Luca to retreat back
Speaker 1: to half court to get around the hedge, which would
Speaker 1: give Andrew Wiggins time to recover below the screen and
Speaker 1: get back to Luca. Here's the thing, lucas very methodical
Speaker 1: with that sort of thing. Boston's slashers are an entirely
Speaker 1: different type of rim pressure. You're going to see a
Speaker 1: lot of Tatum and Brown attacking quickly against those hedges,
Speaker 1: and it works. I saw Jimmy Butler in Miami do
Speaker 1: this to Boston a lot. They would try to hedge
Speaker 1: with Derek White on these kinds of actions, and Jimmy
Speaker 1: would try to beat the hedge by attacking quickly, and
Speaker 1: he got a lot of straight line drives in great
Speaker 1: rim rim pressure from that sort of thing. So for Boston,
Speaker 1: when they get into those switching situations, they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to persistently attack staff and persistently attack Jordan pool and
Speaker 1: get into the rim. The advantage of having multiple players
Speaker 1: that can drive, unlike Dallas is going to be there
Speaker 1: one of their angles that they can go to. With Dallas,
Speaker 1: you had to get them switched onto Luca or get
Speaker 1: them switched onto Jalen Brunson in order to attack them.
Speaker 1: Golden State wasn't allowing the switch. Boston they have the
Speaker 1: luxury of like, hey, we'll just throw it over to
Speaker 1: Marcus Smart because Stepford Jordan's gonna have to guard one
Speaker 1: of those guys because the bigger Wings are gonna be
Speaker 1: guarding Tatum and Brown and so they might or another
Speaker 1: guy's like like Derek White. If you can just swing
Speaker 1: the ball to Derek White and he's already on step,
Speaker 1: If those guys can get consistent dribble penetration against them,
Speaker 1: that will be a huge help. But once again for Boston,
Speaker 1: just like with Golden State, against the Switches, have to
Speaker 1: get dribble penetration and engage help defenders and not fall
Speaker 1: into isolation basketball. So those are the dynamics on either
Speaker 1: side of the ball. A couple of series wide dynamics
Speaker 1: really quick. Um, we just talked about this minute ago,
Speaker 1: but in Game one, in Game one, I'm really curious
Speaker 1: to see if Boston, in a good defensive groove coming
Speaker 1: out of that Miami series, throws Golden State off with
Speaker 1: their length and athletes said, I thought it says him
Speaker 1: once again. Golden State only a ninety four offensive rating
Speaker 1: with Steph on the floor this year with Tatum on
Speaker 1: the floor. I mentioned this earlier. They killed Denver on offense,
Speaker 1: they killed the Grizzlies with Jaw on offense, and they
Speaker 1: killed the Dallas Mavericks on offense. But against Memphis without Jaw,
Speaker 1: they only average about a hundred and four points per
Speaker 1: one Hunter possession. So they have shown a tendency to
Speaker 1: get stagnant and to have some offensive issues against great defense.
Speaker 1: In Game one, I'm really curious to see if Boston
Speaker 1: can leverage that because that's their best chance to win
Speaker 1: this series. I'm picking Golden State. I'm picking them in
Speaker 1: seven games. I think this is gonna be a long series,
Speaker 1: but I think Golden State is the more trustworthy team,
Speaker 1: which makes them the better basketball team because execution and
Speaker 1: attention to detail is all part of what makes a
Speaker 1: good basketball team, and Golden State is simply better in
Speaker 1: those areas. Game one will be Boston's best chance if
Speaker 1: they can steal game one because Golden State struggles to
Speaker 1: adapt to the defense that they bring, that will be
Speaker 1: their best chance then to then try to close the
Speaker 1: series out in six. But once again, that dynamic goes
Speaker 1: both ways. Golden State is a very different type of
Speaker 1: offensive approach. It's very different than anything Boston has seen
Speaker 1: so far in this playoff run. If they catch Boston
Speaker 1: off guard and they end up going up two oh
Speaker 1: in this series, I don't think that's something Boston can
Speaker 1: recover from. So Game one is gonna be interesting thing.
Speaker 1: Two other quick notes crunch time once again a huge
Speaker 1: part of what makes a good basketball team the ability
Speaker 1: to close games. Boston has played twenty eight clutch minutes
Speaker 1: this year in the playoffs. Member playoffs, it's within five
Speaker 1: minutes at the end of the game, within five points. Okay,
Speaker 1: Boston has played twenty eight clutch minutes. Golden States played
Speaker 1: thirty clutch minutes. Golden State plus twelve net rating and
Speaker 1: clutch time Boston minus one and a half. Boston has
Speaker 1: not been a good execution team down the stretch of games.
Speaker 1: Golden State has been a great execution team down the
Speaker 1: stretch of games. In a very close series that's likely
Speaker 1: to have some close games. That's a big advantage towards
Speaker 1: Golden State. And last but not least, I think steps
Speaker 1: the best player. Tatum has been very good. It's been
Speaker 1: a meteoric rise for him this year. I said this
Speaker 1: on the show the other day, and I sincerely mean it.
Speaker 1: I think Janice is on a tier by himself atop
Speaker 1: the league, but I think Steph has the best case
Speaker 1: for number two. He had a really bad regular season.
Speaker 1: His percentages were way down from when he was in
Speaker 1: his prime. There was definitely something weird going on there.
Speaker 1: But in this playoff run, Steph has been the best
Speaker 1: player in this field remaining obviously not counting Janice. So
Speaker 1: I think that's another big advantage towards step Towards Golden State.
Speaker 1: Boston might actually be the more talented team in terms
Speaker 1: of two way players, but I think Golden States a
Speaker 1: better basketball team and their attention to detail and it
Speaker 1: shows up in things like what they do in in
Speaker 1: crunched in in crunch time, and just their overall consistent
Speaker 1: effort and focus. Then Steph is the best player. So
Speaker 1: in this very close series, I'm leaning Golden State in
Speaker 1: seven to get their fourth championship of this era on
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Speaker 1: so they know I sent you all right, I wanted
Speaker 1: to take a couple of minutes today to talk about
Speaker 1: this latest drama between Kevin Durant and Warriors Nation, which
Speaker 1: began when my boss Colin Coward had Draymond Green on
Speaker 1: for an interview for almost an hour yesterday, which was
Speaker 1: incredibly interesting. If you haven't checked it out yet, please do.
Speaker 1: It's on the Volumes YouTube channel. They get into a
Speaker 1: ton of good stuff, including some prep for this year's
Speaker 1: NBA Finals. Um, but what ended up stealing the show
Speaker 1: was Draymond Green. In a discussion centering around Steph Curry
Speaker 1: and Finals m VPS. Dreymond is, in kind of like
Speaker 1: a throwaway line that wasn't even really related to the
Speaker 1: point he was trying to make, said that Steph faced
Speaker 1: quote unquote seven times the amount of double teams that
Speaker 1: k D play at face as a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna play the clip. So here's the clip
Speaker 1: of Draymond Green on the Account Calling Coward podcast yesterday.
Speaker 1: Steph couldn't have definitely hal Finals m DPS because Steph
Speaker 1: has the ball, like Steph. Now, Stephan is coming down
Speaker 1: to court and he's calling says and he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we gotta missmash with Kevin Durant. We're gonna get Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant the ball every single time. He can hijack the
Speaker 1: game and no one's gonna say a word. If Steph
Speaker 1: Curry comes down and he calls for a pick and
Speaker 1: roll every pace nobody's going to say a word, including
Speaker 1: Kevin Durrett by the way, nobody's gonna say anything. That's
Speaker 1: not who he is, that's not what he does. And
Speaker 1: so when when you watch a game and Kevin Durant
Speaker 1: was absolutely incredible those finals runs, as you know you
Speaker 1: watched it, we all watched it. Kevin Durant was absolutely insane.
Speaker 1: Steph Curry got double team probably seven times the amount
Speaker 1: that Katie did in a in a given series. So
Speaker 1: as you guys can see, he's just talking about a coverage,
Speaker 1: but Katie took it personally. He's specifically on Twitter. Uh.
Speaker 1: Draymond saw it, Katie complaining about it, and Draymond tweeted
Speaker 1: at him. You have to learn to listen to full
Speaker 1: takes and not snippets before you get baited into tweeting Champ.
Speaker 1: And then Kadie quote tweeted that by saying, oh, I've
Speaker 1: seen it, my brethren. I appreciate the compliments, but I
Speaker 1: disagree with what you said about double teams. That's all
Speaker 1: I love the show. And then you tweeted at one
Speaker 1: point at a Golden State Warriors fan and said, y'all
Speaker 1: let twitter trolls get y'all riled up and got y'all insecure.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I was the sole reason for anything.
Speaker 1: I always made it about the team. Y'all insecurity has
Speaker 1: got y'all like this. So the latest beef between Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant and Warriors fans surrounding the Steph Curry thing, which
Speaker 1: once again was one of the main reasons why I
Speaker 1: think Katie left to begin with because of the the
Speaker 1: amount of credit that he was given for what had
Speaker 1: happened during those couple of seasons. Now, to be clear
Speaker 1: up front, I think Katie and Draymond are both right.
Speaker 1: The point that Draymond's making is simple. If you are
Speaker 1: holding it against Steph that he doesn't have a finals
Speaker 1: m v P, then you are being dishonest, because he
Speaker 1: damn sure deserved to win it in two thousand fifteen,
Speaker 1: and he played like a finals m v P in
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen, and in two thousand eighteen he he
Speaker 1: The whole thing that Draymond was trying to say is
Speaker 1: Steph was every bit as good as Draymond, or excuse me,
Speaker 1: Steph was every bit as good as k D during
Speaker 1: that era, which is true. They were two of the
Speaker 1: top three players in the world playing at the peak
Speaker 1: of their powers. They both impacted the game at a
Speaker 1: very similar level, just in their own unique way. That's
Speaker 1: the only point Draymond was trying to make. It was
Speaker 1: about Steph and a lot of this mainly Lebron fans,
Speaker 1: because again, this is all this all stems from stand culture.
Speaker 1: The theme of this segment is stayand culture and fans
Speaker 1: being obsessed with bolstering an individual players legacy instead of
Speaker 1: paying attention to what's happening in a team sport. Is
Speaker 1: how we get into these debates to begin with. It's
Speaker 1: what drove Kevin Durant away from the Warriors, and it's
Speaker 1: the reason why he's dealing with this right now. And
Speaker 1: it started with Lebron fans discrediting Steph Curry for not
Speaker 1: having a Finals MVP, which was total bullshit, and Draymond
Speaker 1: was just simply making that point. Now, where KD is
Speaker 1: right is I don't think it's fair for Draymond to
Speaker 1: say that that Steph faced seven times as many double
Speaker 1: teams as k D, because neither player, when they were
Speaker 1: crossing half court was just getting an outright double from
Speaker 1: somebody to get the ball out of their hands. However,
Speaker 1: they ran a lot of high pick and roll with
Speaker 1: Stephen Draymond, and every team for the last half decade
Speaker 1: has guarded the Steph Draymond high pick and roll by
Speaker 1: blitzing it. And the reason why is simple, because Draymond
Speaker 1: is not as much of a scoring threat, and so
Speaker 1: your best bet to try to stop that action is
Speaker 1: to get the ball out of steps hands and make
Speaker 1: Draymond make a play. And yes, Steph is dragging a
Speaker 1: second defender with him, but it's a second defender that
Speaker 1: Draymond brought to him. So yes, by the book, Steph's
Speaker 1: functional steps specific role in that offense to initiate things
Speaker 1: by running high pick and roll involved him dragging multiple defenders.
Speaker 1: But it was by design in the scheme and it
Speaker 1: worked out great for Golden State. Why because Draymond is
Speaker 1: one of the best short role players in the league,
Speaker 1: because he's one of the best passing big men ever,
Speaker 1: and Clay Thompson's every bit as important. Guys, The Warriors
Speaker 1: were sixteenth in offense this year, despite death playing in
Speaker 1: sixty four games. How did that happen? Because important pieces
Speaker 1: were missing? Again, this is a team sport, guys, I
Speaker 1: thought Lebron was a top ten player in the NBA
Speaker 1: this year and the Lakers missed the playoffs. The Lakers
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs in a league that currently allows twenty
Speaker 1: of the thirty teams to be in the playoffs, and
Speaker 1: Lebron is a top ten player could not get them
Speaker 1: into that mix. That's how much a team, That's how
Speaker 1: much your teammates matter, and that's why staying culture is
Speaker 1: so stupid. The bottom line is, Kadie needed the Warriors,
Speaker 1: but the Warriors also needed k D. Looking at kad first,
Speaker 1: he was playing in an archaic system with a ball
Speaker 1: hog point guard that frequently took more shots than him
Speaker 1: on a team that lacked a lot of the offensive
Speaker 1: personnel needed to Katie to play a free for a
Speaker 1: free flowing form of basketball, which has always been what
Speaker 1: he wanted to play, and so he left them to
Speaker 1: go to a team that helped him play a style
Speaker 1: of basketball that he wanted to play, and as a result,
Speaker 1: he was surrounded with the necessary talent and he won championships.
Speaker 1: But Golden State also doesn't have three titles right now
Speaker 1: if Katie doesn't go to them. The biggest weakness of
Speaker 1: the Steph Warriors dynasty was not having a big wing
Speaker 1: that could persistently pressure the rim or score against mismatches
Speaker 1: consistently inefficiently. When Katie filled that hole, they became unbeatable.
Speaker 1: So Katie absolutely was unbelievably important to Golden State and
Speaker 1: establishing the dynasty that they have. But so was Steph
Speaker 1: and so is Draymond, and so was Clay Thompson, and
Speaker 1: so were all of the really smart role players over
Speaker 1: the years that functionally allowed the Golden State system to
Speaker 1: work because it depends on high i q s making
Speaker 1: plays off of the attention their stars gather. That's why
Speaker 1: a guy like Kelly you Bray wasn't a great fit.
Speaker 1: That's why a guy like Ted Baysmore wasn't a great fit.
Speaker 1: But again, there there is no individual dynasty. I've seen Lebron,
Speaker 1: who's the second best player who's ever played the game
Speaker 1: and the best player of this era, lose often when
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the requisite pieces. There is no individual dynasty.
Speaker 1: Dynasties require greatness from a great many people. And I
Speaker 1: don't blame kd for being upset. He devoted the best
Speaker 1: years of his career, his absolute peak. He devoted them
Speaker 1: to that franchise, and all they did was tell everyone
Speaker 1: that Steph was better and kick him in the butt
Speaker 1: on his way out the door. So that's why he left,
Speaker 1: and that's why that's why he feels the way he
Speaker 1: does now. And again, is Golden's eight thriving without him? Yes,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of reasons for that. They have
Speaker 1: a lot of talent, the draft picks, they were able
Speaker 1: to get from down years, from injuries. Andrew Wiggins, who
Speaker 1: was one of their most important players this season, was
Speaker 1: retrieved using the k D asset. If you don't have
Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins, you're probably not a championship contender if you
Speaker 1: don't have Andrew and you don't have Andrew Wiggins without
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. And I'm not trying to undercut anything that
Speaker 1: Golden State has done, because this is all a product
Speaker 1: of all of them and everything that they bring to
Speaker 1: the table. All I'm saying is, why do you gotta
Speaker 1: treat KD like that? Like he won your championships? Why
Speaker 1: are you kicking him when he's gone? I just I
Speaker 1: just don't get it. And guys, what do you think
Speaker 1: Steph thinks the guy you're standing, the guy that you
Speaker 1: are uplifting at Katie's expense. He knows that he needed KD,
Speaker 1: just like Katie knows that he needed Steph. He would
Speaker 1: never treat a k D that way because he knows
Speaker 1: better because he was on the court. And again, we've
Speaker 1: all done this. When I was younger, I used to
Speaker 1: engage in a lot of this nonsense with the Lebron stuff.
Speaker 1: But my point is is the whole basketball world and
Speaker 1: the way we talk about the game will get better
Speaker 1: the sooner we get past this. The sooner we talked
Speaker 1: about how the Golden State Warriors were a perfect basketball
Speaker 1: team constructed with an all world offensive engine and Steph
Speaker 1: Curry in the best tip of the spear in the league,
Speaker 1: and Kevin Durant and the best defensive player in the league,
Speaker 1: and Draymond Green and the second best shooter to ever
Speaker 1: lace them up in Clay Thompson in one of the
Speaker 1: best perimeter defenders to ever lace them up in Andrea Guadala,
Speaker 1: and one of the best midrange scorers to ever lace
Speaker 1: them up in Sean Livingston. We can go on and
Speaker 1: on and on. And one of the best coaches, Steve
Speaker 1: Kerr is one of the best coaches in the league.
Speaker 1: The bottom line is this was it's a dynasty, and
Speaker 1: dynasty's are not based on individuals. Dynasties are based on
Speaker 1: a group effort. And I say that as someone who
Speaker 1: thinks Steph Curry genuinely has a case to be a
Speaker 1: top five player in NBA history if he wins this year.
Speaker 1: Just to me, the individual legacies, we don't need to
Speaker 1: have those discussions by trouncing all over other people that
Speaker 1: also have great individual legacies. We're just better than that.
Speaker 1: And I feel bad for Kadi, and I feel bad
Speaker 1: for Steph because he ends up at he ends up
Speaker 1: taking on a lot of this reputation, which is really
Speaker 1: coming from his fans, and I just hope eventually we
Speaker 1: can get past all that. We're gonna bring my guy
Speaker 1: Carson on and we're gonna play a game of over
Speaker 1: unders based on the NBA Finals, presented by Fandel Sports Book.
Speaker 1: All right, Carson, you're gonna name an over under that's
Speaker 1: currently listed on FanDuel, and I'm gonna tell you, guys
Speaker 1: whether or not I think you should go over or under.
Speaker 1: All right, Jason, We're gonna start with the point total
Speaker 1: for game one over under two twelve and a half.
Speaker 1: Which side are you on? I am on the under
Speaker 1: for this one couple of things. First of all, both
Speaker 1: teams right now are playing at a pace under one
Speaker 1: hundred possessions per game in this postseason run. What that
Speaker 1: means is, when you look at things like offensive rating
Speaker 1: and defensive rating, you can count on the scoreboard reflecting
Speaker 1: slightly less than whatever that number is. So to be clear,
Speaker 1: like I've mentioned before, Golden State's offensive rating in this
Speaker 1: postseason has been great against Denver and against the Grizzlies
Speaker 1: with Jaw, and against that Dallas Mavericks team which lacked
Speaker 1: a lot of defensive personnel. However, this is the best
Speaker 1: defense they've played, and against Memphis without Jaw, which was
Speaker 1: the best defense they played before this series. They only
Speaker 1: average about a hundred and four points per one hundred
Speaker 1: possessions during this regular season. With Steph on the floor
Speaker 1: Verse Boston, Golden State only average nine four points per
Speaker 1: one hundred possessions. And I think they're gonna win Game one,
Speaker 1: so I think this is gonna be low scoring. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be both teams really really caught off
Speaker 1: guard by the intensity and the increased level of competition.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a low scoring affairs, so
Speaker 1: I'd go under to twelve point five. Okay, now we
Speaker 1: got Steph Curry over under twenty seven and a half points. Jason,
Speaker 1: which side are you taking? So I think Steph is
Speaker 1: gonna have big scoring nights in this series. For instance,
Speaker 1: in game two's in this playoff run, he's averaging thirty
Speaker 1: one points per game. However, typically Steph in the first
Speaker 1: game of a playoff series is more interested in being
Speaker 1: the decoy and letting his teammates get involved. He has
Speaker 1: not scored over twenty four points or taken more than
Speaker 1: twenty shots in any of the game ones in this
Speaker 1: postseason run. Plus, he's adjusting to the best defense that
Speaker 1: he's gonna play to this point in the season. He's
Speaker 1: just it's going to be a game where I think
Speaker 1: he's more comfortable playing a supporting role offensively. Again, not
Speaker 1: an indicator of the way he's gonna score over the series, However,
Speaker 1: judging on his approaches so far in game ones in
Speaker 1: this playoff run, it's smart to go under twenty seven
Speaker 1: point five points with Steph tonight Tomorrow night, all right,
Speaker 1: Draymond points, rebounds, and assists combined over under twenty one
Speaker 1: and a half. This one's tough because Draymond's impact is
Speaker 1: always so different based on the matchup. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: under here, and the reason why is Boston is big,
Speaker 1: not just underneath the basket, but on the perimeter. But
Speaker 1: I expect Draymond to be locked in box outs almost
Speaker 1: NonStop with the likes of Robert Williams and Grant Williams
Speaker 1: and Al Horford. And because of that, the rebounds themselves
Speaker 1: are gonna end up falling to his teammates crashing from
Speaker 1: the perimeter. In addition to that, just in general, it's
Speaker 1: extremely difficult to score against this Boston team. So even
Speaker 1: though Draymond, I think is going to be forced to
Speaker 1: be a score in some respects, I don't expect him
Speaker 1: to have a massive statistical impact in this series. I
Speaker 1: think his he'll have the classic Draymond impact and his
Speaker 1: ability to make decisions in the short roll, him being
Speaker 1: the defensive court or back, his ability to bang bodies
Speaker 1: with players that are a lot bigger than him. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be classic Draymond. I just don't expect big box
Speaker 1: score numbers from him. So I'm gonna go under twenty
Speaker 1: one and a half here. All right, we'll see if
Speaker 1: the streak of betting unders continues here. Jason Tatum over
Speaker 1: under twenty eight and a half points. Jason, which side
Speaker 1: do you like? They're big shock? I'm going with the
Speaker 1: under here, Carson. I don't think people realize. I don't
Speaker 1: think people realize just just nearly how much of a
Speaker 1: rock fight this series is gonna be. This is again
Speaker 1: Golden State in Boston, two best defenses in the league
Speaker 1: this year. You know, now, Boston I think is a
Speaker 1: better defense overall. But I mean, these are two incredible defenses.
Speaker 1: Everyone thinks of them as as offensive firepower types of teams,
Speaker 1: and they are. But typically teams that commit to defense
Speaker 1: the way that they do don't have the legs to
Speaker 1: just go light the world on fire on offense. And
Speaker 1: so I expect it to be a lot more of
Speaker 1: a rock fight as far as Tatum goes. A couple
Speaker 1: of things. First of all, Golden State is a lot
Speaker 1: better defensively than people think. And I thought Luca was
Speaker 1: a great indicator of just how much of a cold like,
Speaker 1: just as much of a shock it is to step
Speaker 1: into the arena and experience the different level of intensity
Speaker 1: and scheming and different looks and all the different things
Speaker 1: that you get from Golden State, and so because of that,
Speaker 1: I expect Tatum to struggle. Also, just in general, the
Speaker 1: NBA Finals are a massive stage, and I think one
Speaker 1: of the most underplayed dynamics in this series is Golden
Speaker 1: States experience. I have seen so many times over the years,
Speaker 1: young teams just struggle with the scale and the scope
Speaker 1: and the history and the pressure and the vibe that
Speaker 1: comes with the NBA Finals. And as good as Jayson
Speaker 1: Tatum is, I do expect him to experience some of that,
Speaker 1: some of those jitters. So I expect an inefficient, sloppy
Speaker 1: game one from Jayson Tatum. So I'm going under twenty
Speaker 1: eight and a half points alright, last one here, Jordan
Speaker 1: Pool over under eighteen and a half points and assists
Speaker 1: can bind Jason. What do you think? So this is
Speaker 1: this one? I'm going over eighteen and a half is
Speaker 1: super low. Uh. First of all, against Boston this season
Speaker 1: and their only matchup that Jordan Pool played in, he
Speaker 1: had thirty two points plus assists and in game ones
Speaker 1: in this playoff runs, so three, uh, we have three
Speaker 1: games to take as a sample there in game ones,
Speaker 1: he's been particularly aggressive. He's averaging thirty two points plus
Speaker 1: assists in game ones in this playoff run. A couple
Speaker 1: of things too. The way that Boston is going to
Speaker 1: defend is going to demand dribble penetration from Steph and
Speaker 1: Jordan Pool. They specifically need him to be very aggressive
Speaker 1: because I put in my notes like will he get
Speaker 1: enough minutes? That's my biggest concern because if Boston is
Speaker 1: punishing him too relentlessly. On the other end, Steve Kerr
Speaker 1: has shown the willingness, and Mike Brown as well, when
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr was out, has shown the willingness to pull
Speaker 1: Jordan Pool when he's not playing well on the defensive
Speaker 1: end of the floor. So that's one of the one
Speaker 1: of the weird kind of like variables here. However, I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna need him so much on offense to
Speaker 1: get the necessary dribble penetration to keep Boston in rotation
Speaker 1: that I think he is gonna play a lot. And
Speaker 1: once again he's been aggressive in game ones. He's shown
Speaker 1: the ability to score against this Boston defense in this
Speaker 1: regular season. I think eighteen and a half is a
Speaker 1: very achievable number for him to hit in points plus assists.
Speaker 1: Out of the five bets that we threw out there today,
Speaker 1: which of those over unders is your favorite? Jason, Oh,
Speaker 1: that is a very good question, man. I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with Tatum under twenty eight and a half.
Speaker 1: I just think, remember when we were debating in the
Speaker 1: in the Dallas series, like are they gonna make Luca
Speaker 1: beat him as a score or are they gonna send help?
Speaker 1: And uh put the onus on the shooters to make shots.
Speaker 1: Golden State very quickly from the beginning of that series
Speaker 1: was like we're attacking Luca and we're gonna make them
Speaker 1: make shots. Remember the Dallas got twenty eight wide open
Speaker 1: threes in Game one. That that just kind of shows
Speaker 1: you the general approach that Steve Kerr has here. Now,
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, Lucas still had a monster scoring
Speaker 1: game in that game, but he's a gunner. Lucas a
Speaker 1: gunner in a way that Tatum is not. And so
Speaker 1: I think the Tatum has shown a willingness in recent
Speaker 1: games to be the guy who accepts the defensive attention
Speaker 1: and keeps things moving with the past. So I think
Speaker 1: the safest bet for Game one is Tatum under twenty
Speaker 1: eight and a half points the volume