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Speaker 1: The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Price Chill. Say that's got Todaysto and now

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Speaker 1: your hosts, Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeomans. You know, it's only been about like five

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Speaker 1: days or so, but it is oh so good to

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Speaker 1: be back. And it's been longer. It's been a full

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Speaker 1: week since we've had the Talking Cowboys crew back together again.

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Speaker 1: Come on that, Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips, Kyle Yeomans

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Speaker 1: were all back and we're ready. We're well rested, We're

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Speaker 1: ready for the rest of the season. Exactly. Yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 1: It's not even a say it with your chest Friday.

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Speaker 1: Yet it's a say it with your chest Monday again.

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Speaker 1: Here on talking back in the Trust Tree. I missed

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Speaker 1: you guy in the Trust Tree. Missed you guys. I

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Speaker 1: missed you guys. So imagine imagine that Rob and Isaiah

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Speaker 1: or excuse me, Robin Heckmer are the ones that said

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Speaker 1: we miss people. And then Isaiah's you're sitting there smiling.

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Speaker 1: He didn't miss any of this smoke. I didn't miss

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Speaker 1: you guys, man, I miss you guys. It's been too long,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's been too long. It's kind of like,

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Speaker 1: you know, like we used to go on dates all

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Speaker 1: the time and now we're just you know, now we

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Speaker 1: had a little hiatus and now we're back, you know,

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Speaker 1: so it feels kind of good to be back with

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Speaker 1: the crew. Yeah, it's been a hole what six days?

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's like a yeah, that's like a middle

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Speaker 1: school thing, like, no, you get off the phone. No,

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Speaker 1: you get off the that's what That's how you feel.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of what it felt like whenever we pop

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Speaker 1: back on the call today and we were like, goodness, gracious,

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Speaker 1: this this feels good, Like it just feels right, and

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Speaker 1: we're ready to roll for another week of talking cowboys.

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Speaker 1: And that's the fun thing is we're back for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the year this way. Nope, no more switch ups.

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Speaker 1: It was definitely fun. We had Nate Newton and Nick

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Speaker 1: Eatman specifically on this show, and then of course outside

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Speaker 1: what do you what do you like that he was there?

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Speaker 1: Something that happened. Now, now here's the thing you are

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Speaker 1: used to me and Isaiah getting to it. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you had you didn't you were not ready? You would

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Speaker 1: I could tell the look on your face. How when Nick,

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Speaker 1: when Nick and Nate got into it, ye, you was

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Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, well how do I get

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Speaker 1: this show back on the He was ready on Wednesday

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Speaker 1: because he brought props, when on Tuesday he was not ready.

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Speaker 1: You're exactly right, I was. I had a feeling that

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Speaker 1: was going to happen because because listen a little pull

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Speaker 1: back of the curtain here. Nick actually kind of he

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Speaker 1: at one point early before the show, he kind of

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Speaker 1: looked at me and said, hey, bring up moral victories

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Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, Like I'll bring it up.

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Speaker 1: I was like why, and he was like, just trust me,

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Speaker 1: just bring it home. When I was like, okay, I

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Speaker 1: feel like something's coming here, and so I brought it up,

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Speaker 1: and of course insanity ensued, and it went back and

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Speaker 1: forth the rest of the show and even spilling over

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Speaker 1: into Wednesday. So I was more prepared on Wednesday, but

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Speaker 1: it was It was a blast and a ton of

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Speaker 1: fun with with both those guys, and I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: guys had a ton of fun on your various shows

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Speaker 1: as well, but there's nothing like the Talking Cowboys crew.

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Speaker 1: I'll just tell you that right right now, there's nothing

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Speaker 1: we Well, we appreciate you taking us off a suspension.

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Speaker 1: We recognize that you kicked us out of the cool club.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're here, you're inviting us back, so we're

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Speaker 1: grateful that, right, Yeah, the Commissioner's example list. Thank you, Kyle,

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Speaker 1: You're welcome. But I doubt that's even remotely close to

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Speaker 1: my pay grade. I don't think that's even close to

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Speaker 1: the amount. No, no, I mean I mean for Heck

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Speaker 1: and Rob Pie. I'm not sure if you guys remember,

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Speaker 1: but when we asked why is it that you get

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Speaker 1: to stay, Kyle, you said because I'm the host. Here

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Speaker 1: was me and let us know where we were in

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Speaker 1: a pecking order. Oh my goodness. Well, if you want to,

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Speaker 1: the division that the Cowboys are in the NFC East

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Speaker 1: And so now you've got once again a week where

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Speaker 1: in the NFC East and it still seems like everyone

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Speaker 1: else is reeling. Rob did you get a chance to

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Speaker 1: a dumpster fire at the moment. So you're saying there's

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Speaker 1: I think that's the that's what you've got away if

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Speaker 1: there's there's obviously a fan segment out there because we

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Speaker 1: see it on Twitter all the time, you know, hashtag

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Speaker 1: So that's twenty twenty for you, and that's the twenty

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Speaker 1: I mean, and talk about moral victories, that's there. We

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Speaker 1: But Rob came up short of just calling the NFC

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Speaker 1: East to complete dumpster fire and that's what's bad with it.

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Speaker 1: past few games they have been playing better ball. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's got a little bit better, you know. I think

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Speaker 1: even though it's a bye week, it's a bye week

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Speaker 1: guess what, guys, go kick it for you know, four days,

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Speaker 1: go go hang out, have a good time, come back,

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Speaker 1: be ready to grow. But when you're two and seven, fellas,

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Speaker 1: I need you guys in the facility once a day

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Speaker 1: and watching film and staying engaged because we can't afford

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Speaker 1: or Cam Irving's another one, but we'll leave that where

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Speaker 1: it's at. But let's go to Let's go to the

428
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Speaker 1: defense and subside, and this is where the majority of

429
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Speaker 1: them are. We're gonna start with Tyrone Crawford. Heckmu this

430
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 1: is a guy who's been around forever. Are you moving

431
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 1: on and grooving on? Man? And this is tough for

432
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Speaker 1: me to say, because I liked Tyrone Man. He's he's

433
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 1: given us a lot, He's been a leader on and

434
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 1: off the field. But I'm moving on. I think in

435
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 1: the new scheme he doesn't fit at just he's not

436
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 1: able to make the plays or or I don't know

437
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 1: how healthy is from the hip surgery. Also, so all

438
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Speaker 1: things being considered, I think for the money that we're

439
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 1: paying him, we could we could get more out of

440
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 1: that position. So I'm moving on Rob. Yeah, I mean, well, yeah,

441
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's it's a situation for Tyrone

442
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 1: where we'll see where he's at after the season, because

443
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: I know, like Heckma mentioned it, the double hip surgery

444
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 1: was something I think he had to weigh whether he

445
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: wanted to fight through that, you know, and I think

446
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 1: he talked to us earlier in the season about how,

447
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's been a battle trying to battle through this,

448
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been on the injury port, he hasn't

449
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 1: been limited going through. But you know, we'll see, you know,

450
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: at his age and the injuries he's had, you know,

451
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: he's got to make a decision too on on whether

452
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Speaker 1: where he's at in his career going forward. I did

453
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Speaker 1: I didn't think he gave him something in the pass

454
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 1: rush last week in that in that kind of they

455
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Speaker 1: had a four man line where he's rushing from the

456
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Speaker 1: in spot and they had I think they had tank

457
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: and Alden inside so and with Gregory on the other

458
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 1: spot outside that that that's that's a package just working

459
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Speaker 1: for him. So we'll see, you know, we'll see how

460
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Speaker 1: these last seven games go. I think they made a

461
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Speaker 1: call Tyron, tell him to go get his stuff. He

462
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Speaker 1: gonna get him about it here. Man. Yeah, he's making

463
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Speaker 1: he's making a lot of money. Man, he's making a

464
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Speaker 1: lot of money. And uh, you know, I think I

465
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: think you got some young some young goons out there

466
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Speaker 1: that want to play some ball, and you know a

467
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: place you got the draft, So I think you's got

468
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Speaker 1: to move off for you. Tell him thank you, pat

469
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: him on the button, Jason Garrett, huh all, I tell

470
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: him gone and wrap up his career. Man. But he's done.

471
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: He's done well for an organization. I know everybody's grateful

472
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: for it. But it's time to shuit have downplayer. So

473
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: and he's making nine nine point one million at the moment,

474
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: he's already he's already thirty plus years old. And I

475
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Speaker 1: wanted to ask the question, though, does it make a

476
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Speaker 1: big difference the fact that he has been playing better

477
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Speaker 1: over the last couple of games, Because I don't even

478
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Speaker 1: think it was just this past week. I thought he

479
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: played maybe his best two games of the year in

480
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Speaker 1: a row. He played against Philly decently well, and then

481
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: he figured out how to play better than that game

482
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,479
Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh in Week nine. So does it change your

483
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: mind at all? No, I'm not moving on because of

484
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: his lack of um, you know production. I'm moving on

485
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: just simply because it's just time to move on. You know,

486
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: he's he's been through a lot, and you know, it's

487
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: like the stock market, right he writing it high. You

488
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: know at some point in time it's gonna drop, so

489
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: you want to you want to shake it before it drops. Man,

490
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Speaker 1: I will say he's been he's one of my favorite guys,

491
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: not just in the locker room, but also he's I

492
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: know he's made a lot of money, but he has

493
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Speaker 1: done a job that is not recognize enough over the

494
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: years in terms of like he's had to play wherever

495
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: he's needed. You know, he's never really been able to

496
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: settle in one spot and I and that's that's a

497
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: credit to him for being willing to play. Hey, I've

498
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: kind of slimmed down for this position, maybe on the edge,

499
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: but they need me inside. Okay, I'm gonna take a

500
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: pounding in there. You know, he's kind of doing he's

501
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,959
Speaker 1: you know, he's always been the good soldier, you know.

502
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 1: I like that, and I think that's something that's undervalued

503
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Speaker 1: with Tyrone Crawford as a whole, and it's been that

504
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Speaker 1: way throughout his career. But I'm gonna move to a

505
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Speaker 1: spot next to Tyrone. And you just mentioned the stock market, Isaiah,

506
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Speaker 1: you mentioned selling high, buying low. You want to make

507
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: sure and kind of ride that star stock market market wave.

508
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: Where's the stock for Alden Smith at the moment in

509
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Speaker 1: terms of move on or groove on? Are you going

510
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: to hi high on it? So you're grooving no matter what.

511
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm grooving for a nice little two year contract. I mean,

512
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: give me, give me augu Smith for two years please. Okay, Yeah,

513
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: that's a no brainer. I'm going, Yeah, I'm going. I'm

514
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: grooving with all the smith Man he is. He's giving us.

515
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: And you talk about a guy that four and a

516
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: half years of not playing football that has come back

517
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: and given us everything, and that's been all the smith Man.

518
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Speaker 1: So I'm definitely grooving. I'm grooving depending on the price.

519
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: I keep saying that, But I mean I'm just thinking

520
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: about Robert Quinn last year, and you know, the market

521
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: for him was really high, higher than maybe the Cowboys,

522
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: definitely higher than the Cowboys that hoped. And yeah, Alton's

523
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: been all. He got to a really hot start, and

524
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Speaker 1: I think he still leads him in sacks. I think

525
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have traded They wouldn't they wouldn't have resisted

526
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: trade offers if they didn't hope to get him back

527
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: in the off season. But I do wonder. You know,

528
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna be up against it with the cap and

529
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Speaker 1: they've got other decisions to make. We'll get into it.

530
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Speaker 1: So if he gets into a bidding war, potentially, if

531
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Speaker 1: he hits the market first, then they might have to

532
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: move on. But what's your price, RAPI, what's your price?

533
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Speaker 1: What are you willing to pay him? Well? I'm with you.

534
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's like a two year deal and

535
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: it's it's um you know, I don't know what the

536
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: signing bonus would be, you know, if he if it's

537
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Speaker 1: a deal like Robert Quinn where he's getting you know,

538
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: ten twelve million bucks a year, I just don't know

539
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: if you can do that, you know, But so you're

540
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: willing to pay Crawford nine a year, but not Aldon

541
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: Smith nine a year. Well, Crawford's not gonna be He's

542
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: not gonna make that. That's a renegotiating thing. Yeah, there's

543
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 1: no way. It's not gonna be the same salary. Just wondering,

544
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: I know where you're going. Remind me never, never to

545
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: go shopping with Rob. It's like, man, that would be

546
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,959
Speaker 1: really cool, but for the price. I just don't know.

547
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: I just don't you know what it is. It's it's

548
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: all these damn years with Mickey on the podcast because

549
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: it's like everything it's like, well, how much is it

550
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: gonna be? What's the know? How much does it cost?

551
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: Much does it actually cost? Like shopping with your dad?

552
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: There's a reason that that not wanting so right to be.

553
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, you should probably go shopping

554
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: with Rob. Probably help your style. Absolutely true. You're probably right.

555
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: Rob's got he's got the drift today. Look at that jacket.

556
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: Look at this jacket's the Cowboys Pro Shop. Heck, was

557
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: just jealous because I can actually unbutton one of my

558
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: my top buttons on my polo. Oh my god. So

559
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: moving on before we continue on this, so before we

560
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: keep going here, this is a restricted free agent? How

561
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: about Antoine Woods? Heck, mo, would you keep Antoine around?

562
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 1: That's how damn. That's how I know y'all are friends

563
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: because like we have not been doing this show long enough.

564
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: Beside Jones friendship outside of the show, that was cold. Yeah,

565
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: let him let him live, man, it's all good. It's

566
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 1: all good. H Antoine. He's a restricted free agent. Some

567
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: money at this point is not really an option, or

568
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: I guess it's not. I've been I really have been

569
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: up and down on Antoine. Was but after done Terry

570
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: Poe leaving and just seeing the win it he's filled in. Um.

571
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: I think there's something to be said about the job

572
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: that he's doing. And also just look, man, the Micael.

573
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna be looking at him for the next seven games,

574
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: so let's see how he performs. And man, I was

575
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: really you know, protecting the star, what he did with Juju,

576
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: letting him know, hey, don't you walk to that star.

577
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: He's probably one of my favorites right there right now.

578
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: So I mean, it'd be hard to say anything bad

579
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Speaker 1: about Antoine boy, you know. And I'm glad you brought

580
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: that approving. I'm glad you brought that up. Heck money,

581
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: does that change a lot of what you thought about

582
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: Antoine Wood specifically as a player. The fact that you

583
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: know he's thinking about that and he wants to be here,

584
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what we've kind of been calling for

585
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: on this defense. Yeah, well, I mean, come on, man,

586
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: when you going back and looking at the other games,

587
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: I mean, guys have definitely been trying to shame us

588
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: and bully us, and you know, the Pittsburgh Steelers were

589
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: just trying to continue that. And finally you see a

590
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: game where guys are just saying, Noah, this is not

591
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: gonna happen, and his damn show not gonna happen at

592
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: at and T Stadium. So you know, just taking pride

593
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: in what you do and taking pride in your football

594
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: team is won. So I mean that just lets me

595
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: know that Antoine Woods is all in all making sure

596
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: that he protects the brand. And that's you know, the Cowboys.

597
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: So I'm with him. He's front of West Coast, you know,

598
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: he's about that life. Heck, so he won't let that happen.

599
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,719
Speaker 1: But I'm a ride with him because we got him

600
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: for a discount double check right now, So I think

601
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: we can. I think we can bring him back. Yeah,

602
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: I agree. Mike Nolan said last week that he's becoming

603
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: he's kind of emerged as a leader for those guys inside.

604
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: You know what he's trying, you know, patch together this

605
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: defensive line interior wise, with some of the injuries they've

606
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: had and obviously moving on from Poe. So I would say, yeah,

607
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: I talked to him in the offseason. I know he

608
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: dealt with some injuries last year, had the knee, had

609
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: a hip deal, and that was kind of frustrating for him.

610
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: But I think he's come in and he's helped, He's

611
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: given him something, especially those last two weeks. I think

612
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: that's a huge credit to Antoine. Not only the protecting

613
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: of the Star because I thought that was fantastic and

614
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: Nick Eatman wrote a really nice piece about it on

615
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com as well. And also not to

616
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: mention Juju was his college teammate. I mean they both

617
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: were USC guys and they were teammates at USC, and

618
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: so not only did he say okay, throw the college

619
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: allegiance aside, I'm still protecting the star here. I thought

620
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: that was really cool, but also not to mention when

621
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: we were at training camp prob it almost looked like

622
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods was the odd man out in terms of

623
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: the interior of the defensive line. Whenever we had Poe

624
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: come in and you had Gerald McCoy come in, and

625
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,479
Speaker 1: it looked like they were building something new. It almost

626
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: looked as if Woods was going to be the last

627
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: man standing, or at least the last man in the line,

628
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: because you wanted to keep Tristan Hill, you wanted to

629
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: keep Neville Gallimore, and then where's where's Antoine Woods. Well,

630
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: he not only stuck around, but he's played better and

631
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: he's continued to improve, and like you said a moment ago,

632
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: he stepped up as a leader. Yeah, I would groove

633
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: on with him one. I think he's somebody that's a

634
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: little like kind of what we said earlier, a little

635
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: underrated in terms of what he does and what he brings,

636
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: but it's something this defense absolutely needs in the middle

637
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Speaker 1: of it, for sure. The other thing with him is

638
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Speaker 1: he was an exclusive rights free agent and he didn't

639
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Speaker 1: sign his tender until right before training camp. I think,

640
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: and you know, he wanted it. He wanted an extension,

641
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: he has said that, and he didn't get it, and

642
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Speaker 1: I think he was pretty motivated by it. So we'll

643
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Speaker 1: see what they do in the offseason. When I mean,

644
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Speaker 1: when they're at full strength. Obviously they're they're excited about

645
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Speaker 1: Tristan Hill, They're excited about Nevil Gallimore. But there's obviously

646
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Speaker 1: gonna be rotation in there, and you know, a spot

647
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Speaker 1: for a rotation next year. I like it. I like it. Okay,

648
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Speaker 1: let's move on to the secondary. And these are three

649
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Speaker 1: of the bigger, bigger, undrestricted free agent names coming up

650
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Speaker 1: in this offseason. We're gonna start at the corner spot.

651
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, What have you guys thought about him this year?

652
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Speaker 1: And would you move on or groove on? Rob Man?

653
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: This is tough. I love Jordan Man, He's um I

654
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: would I would say, I'm gonna cop out. I'm gonna

655
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: say we're gonna find out the last seven games. And

656
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Speaker 1: I will say, when you're talking about a trio of

657
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Speaker 1: dbs that are the seventeen draft pick guys that are

658
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: all up, Cheeto, Xavier and Jordan, I don't expect all

659
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Speaker 1: three to be back. I mean, I think they're gonna

660
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Speaker 1: make some changes, but we'll see. I mean, they haven't

661
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: made enough plays on the ball this year. Let's let's

662
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: be honest. I mean, and I think going forward, they've

663
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: got to be able to get more of that ball

664
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Speaker 1: hawking at the cornerback position, kind of what we've seen

665
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Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs do a little bit. So um, I do

666
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Speaker 1: think in his role as a slot guy, and he's

667
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: gonna get to play more now we'll see. But they

668
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: they've got to be able to be more active, getting

669
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Speaker 1: hands on balls, being more productive in that regard the spotlight.

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Speaker 1: The spotlight. The spotlight's gonna be on Jay Lou and

671
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Speaker 1: uh A Woozier, and so these guys are gonna have

672
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: to make some plays because they came into this this

673
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: year knowing that they had to have big hears. I've

674
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: been disappointed and Jay Lou Man, I think that he's

675
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: giving up a lot even when he was playing in

676
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: the interior. Um it's he just it's just giving up

677
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: a lot of plays. So, um, I'm moving on. It's

678
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: tough to say that I'm moving on, is zam. I

679
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: like Jay luke Man. I like his fight. I like

680
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Speaker 1: his fight, but at one hundred and thirty three thousand

681
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: dollars a game, mmm, I gotta I gotta roll on. Mmmm. Okay,

682
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: so broke that broke down? Kind of going, yeah, he

683
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: did broke that contract down pretty quick, didn't he. How

684
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: about that math? That's the you doub that's your dog

685
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Speaker 1: coming out the quick math. I have a large computer screen.

686
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Speaker 1: You're not going task there. I like it. I like

687
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Speaker 1: it there now, Rob, I kind of want to go

688
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Speaker 1: based off of what you were saying a moment ago,

689
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Speaker 1: and it actually adds to what Heckma said too. But

690
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Speaker 1: you talked about playing it plays on the ball and

691
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Speaker 1: with Jordan Lewis, this is a guy who, at least

692
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Speaker 1: the last couple years, has been the big play guy,

693
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: multi sacks, multi interceptions. He's always been around the ball,

694
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Speaker 1: even in limited snaps. Well, this is the first year

695
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: he's really had an abundance of snaps, or at least

696
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: it seems like he's had an abundance of snaps. But

697
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: we haven't seen that same sort of production. You mentioned

698
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Speaker 1: Trey Von Diggs and with him now being out, is

699
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: it up to Jordan Lewis to be that ball hawking

700
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Speaker 1: type of player and somebody that's going to have to

701
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Speaker 1: not only make interceptions but have find a way to

702
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Speaker 1: get a sack or two in the last couple of

703
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: games of the year. Oh. Absolutely. But that's why I've

704
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: said I think I think this last seven games is

705
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: a really important evaluation. If your defense can continue doing

706
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Speaker 1: what they've done the last couple of weeks, where you're

707
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: you're playing complimentary, you're getting a push up front, your

708
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: linebackers are playing a little better. I think you're going

709
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: to see an opportunities for the corners to play better too,

710
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. So I think I think they've

711
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: just been on their heels the entire year. You know,

712
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: they've been playing from behind, and so the play action

713
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: comes into into play and all those things. So I think, yeah,

714
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Speaker 1: But to answer your question, absolutely, I mean they need

715
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: they need more of that from their dbs. And you know, Trayvon,

716
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: despite his mistakes and we've talked about that, that's got

717
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: to improved. But some of his strengths I think are

718
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: exactly what they're looking forward from the cornerback position moving forward. Heckma, no,

719
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's just where it is with Jay Lou.

720
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: I mean, this is so much to be desired from

721
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: our secondary period defensive line wise, I mean, if we

722
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: could give more push and more pressure. That was sure

723
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: make the job a lot easier on our corners as well.

724
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Speaker 1: It's just a lot of these guys have just been

725
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: the usual suspects behind some of these big plays that

726
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: you see. And so, I mean, we give terms all

727
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: the time, like ball hawk, but if you're not a

728
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Speaker 1: ball hawk, then let's just move on from the title

729
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: and call you what you are. You know, you're a reserve,

730
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Speaker 1: feeling guy. And we need for this young defense. We

731
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Speaker 1: for this young defense, we need guys that are ball

732
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Speaker 1: hawks and guys that want to make plays, and we

733
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Speaker 1: haven't been getting it. So I don't want to say, well,

734
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Speaker 1: you did good in the past, but you're not doing it.

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Speaker 1: You know. Look, man, you're only as good as your

736
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Speaker 1: last hit. Brother. That was harsh, No, it was that

737
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: was nice. It's a season of giving. Heckma is so

738
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: quiet reserve today. You just in the Christmas spirit already.

739
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's another week. It's another opportunity. You know,

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00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm renewed, I'm refreshed that opportunity to to you know,

741
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: to simmer down from the last week's uh you know,

742
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Speaker 1: the wee game, before the comments, the postgame comments. I

743
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Speaker 1: had opportunity to woo saw who saw and I'm good

744
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: now yeah? Oh man God, Okay, Well we're gonna pro linebackers.

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00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: Uh well, there's just a couple of them. We might

746
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: get to them here in a minute. I'm gonna finish

747
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: this up. I gotta take away, gotta take a break.

748
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Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll hit the last two secondary guys.

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Speaker 1: We'll probably do the linebackers tomorrow on Fans on the

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00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: here on Talking Cowboys, Xavier Woods, Cheeta a Woozie, we

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Speaker 1: of Talking Cowboys. The crew's back at it again. Heck

786
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Speaker 1: Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand back. I'm Kyle Yeoman's.

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00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: Each of these three guys so glad to have them

788
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: back here on Talking Cowboys. Each of them in their

789
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: own rights are cornerstones to this show. And I just

790
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: I know they all bring the fire whenever it comes

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Speaker 1: to everything, every effort, every piece of Yeah, they're all cornerstones.

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Speaker 1: What what damn it? What? Isaiah? What? What do you want?

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Speaker 1: I just you're your your vocabulary today. I mean, is

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Speaker 1: this Haven't heard you use that term before the corner stages.

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Speaker 1: It's a good it's a good term. I like it.

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Speaker 1: It's usually spot on when I say it that way.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised you're upset about it. I wonder why I don't.

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00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: I don't know anyway. So with that being said, let's

799
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Speaker 1: move on to the secondary and just talk about the

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00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: secondary and not talk about the linebackers that could potentially

801
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: not be on this team. In twenty twenty one. So

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00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: let's go to Xavier Woods. Heckma, you brought them up earlier,

803
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna have you started as well. But you

804
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: talked about it whenever you went back and looked at

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00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: the film, Xavier Woods stuck out as a as a

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00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: big negative in terms of being just one of those

807
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: neutral players that you needed to have something from. Yeah,

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00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm moving on quick. Um, we're gonna go ahead and

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00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna call it a career here. Uh if if

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Speaker 1: it were me, you like if he so uh yeah

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Speaker 1: playing TM. Yeah, We're moving on. I mean it's just look, man,

812
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: there's so many plays. I mean, this miss tackles, bad coverage,

813
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: not really breaking on balls well at all for safety

814
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: being it you know. I guess you want to blame

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00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: it on the scheme a lot of times, and I'm

816
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: sure that may have been a quarter of it, but men,

817
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: the majority of it is just missing assignments and missing

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00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: tackles and just not making being able to make a

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00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: play on ball. So I'm moving on, Rob Yeah, you know,

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00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: I think so. I think there there are some things

821
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: he does well, or we see him do well recently.

822
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: He'll come up in the box and he'll make some

823
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: tackles and and and be physical that way. Um. But

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00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, I think we've talked about safety all year long,

825
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: and I think you know, Diamond Wilson has showed them

826
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: something I think in a rotation on the other at

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Speaker 1: the other spot. But to me, that's going to be

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Speaker 1: a spot in the draft where you look at and say,

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Speaker 1: can we find somebody that, uh can really be a

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Speaker 1: difference at one of those two spots, Be a difference maker,

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Speaker 1: Be a guy that can you know, you know, affect

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Speaker 1: things matchup wise and maybe played linebacker a little bit,

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Speaker 1: do those kind of things. So they don't they haven't

834
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: had that and maybe they maybe that's something they gotta

835
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Speaker 1: find the off season. Isaiah, I'm going with the X

836
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: on Xavier, we gotta get them up out of here. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I like his effort, man. One thing you always didn't

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00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: get from Xavier's effort right every play, even when he

839
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: says that every play, Uh No, you gotta move on man.

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00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: That's a position that we've been talking about for a

841
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: very long time. I think that you need to obviously

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00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: get some young guys and developed them. Reggie Robinson can't

843
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 1: seen him, but then you also gotta get a veteran,

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Speaker 1: approven veteran in there, approven veteran, uh to kind of

845
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Speaker 1: be you know, the big big, the big dog back there,

846
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: to kind of lead these guys, to show them the way,

847
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: like the Mandalorian. So I think I think that, you know,

848
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: they need that going into this offseason. But as far

849
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: as the Xavier was, I think his his first initial

850
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: kind of gives everything we need. Do you have something

851
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: to add to that? Heckma Mandalorian. I love he got,

852
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: he got the Mandalorian. He's bought out Erica Badu, we

853
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 1: came Tarow. I mean, this guy's good. This the floors Isaiah.

854
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: I've never met somebody that's so quick and witty with

855
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: his random references as Isaiah is on not only this show,

856
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: but that's the thing, like for all of you listening,

857
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: like you might think he only has these ready for

858
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: the show where it's the Jamesport backpack and it's the

859
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: Mandalorian and this stuff in life. No, this is how

860
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: he talks on a normal basis. Like we're just walking

861
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: down the hall to go get coffee, and it's like, oh,

862
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: Isaiah just came up with a super witty reference I

863
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: just wanted to throw that out there is it's it's fantastic,

864
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: and that's where it's true. No, it's true. His head.

865
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: His head is full of sayings from nineties sit Tom's like, no, seriously,

866
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: you remind me. You remind me and my friends growing up,

867
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: we're like we talk in movie quotes bases, like we're

868
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: quoting like Adam Sandler movie Vias and stuff like that's

869
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: what That's what we still do to this day. I

870
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: love it. Okay, final guy, move on or groove on

871
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 1: today and then we'll wrap things up here on talking Cowboys.

872
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: But Cheeto Wi Lousier. I'm grooving on with Cheeto. And

873
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: I know that he's had injuries throughout the year and

874
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: it's kind of tough, and I know there's probably a

875
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: lot that plays into that, Isaiah, but ultimately, this is

876
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: still somebody I want to see with Treyvon Diggs in

877
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 1: the future, and I want to have that back and forth.

878
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: You can go out and draft another corner, and I

879
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: actually advise going out and drafting another corner, but I

880
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: still want Cheeto to be a part of the puzzle.

881
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna ahead ride on it. I'm gonna go ahead,

882
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: and I'm being a block I'm gonna roll with him,

883
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: um something, because you know, I think we can get

884
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: it for a good price, and we got him right

885
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: now for a good price. I think he's a competitor.

886
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: He's had he's had his injuries, but who hasn't on

887
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: this team already, and uh, you know, I think I

888
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: think he's a really good competitor. I don't think anybody's

889
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: ever questioned his effort. I don't think anybody's ever questioned

890
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: any aspect of what he does, simply about the side

891
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: for the fact that he just has a team to

892
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: get better. But as everybody else us, so I'm gonna

893
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 1: ride with him, I'm gonna let him go ahead and compete.

894
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: I think he's shocked. I'm thinking he's probably the only

895
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: guy that you're probably sound with, aside from you know,

896
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: developing digs. That's the only guy that you feel good about.

897
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: You know, when when he's out there, you feel you

898
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: feel you feel a lot better. You know, when you

899
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: have you know Jordan Lewis, or when you have you know,

900
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: any of these other guys out there, you don't feel

901
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: as secure. And I think that's a testament regardless of

902
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: how bad your team is, He's still one of the

903
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: whate hundred defensive backs in this league, right, so you

904
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: gotta respect him somehow. But yeah, I'm riding with him.

905
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm moving. Yeah, I'm moving. Um, yeah, I'm moving on.

906
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, really just for him. I

907
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: think he's a guy that may benefit from a fresh start,

908
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: some start somewhere else. I mean, I just I hadn't

909
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: seen it. I don't think we're ever gonna get it,

910
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: And it's like wishing for something that's just not gonna happen.

911
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get myself in trouble with Santa Claus

912
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: in the tooth Fairy again. But but I want to

913
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: say is that we could do better. We could do

914
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: at a free agency uh, with another guy. I just,

915
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: you know, I just don't think that he's going to

916
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: be a part of our plans in the future. I

917
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: would have said before this season, go ahead, go ahead. Yeah. Now,

918
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna say Heckman did not get a Pepperman

919
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: on his desk today, because I can tell he's a

920
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: little angry as I mean these guys. Yeah, he's he did,

921
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm grooving. I guess I would have said before the season,

922
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: probably no, just because the market could turn out where

923
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: it's just not something you'd want to spend the money

924
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: and resign. But he's been out for half the year,

925
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: most of the year, so you know, there may be

926
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: away financially to bring him back. And and I kind

927
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: of think Xavier is the same boat. Like I just think,

928
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, depending on what's out there, to bring guys

929
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: back and compete for a spot in a rotation, I

930
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: think that makes sense. But as far as like cornerstones go,

931
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: I think when you're look talking about both these positions,

932
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: cowboys need to be looking in the draft and looking

933
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: in free agency to kind of see, you know, how

934
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: can we get better, how can we create more competition

935
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: at this these two positions, because you know, for most

936
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,959
Speaker 1: of the year it just hasn't been their proactivity wise.

937
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: It's been that way for the last couple of years.

938
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: If we're being honest, that word again, Yeah, cornerstone, Well

939
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it here for talking cowboys. We're gonna

940
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: end it on that note from Isaiah in the bottom

941
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: left hand corner just smirking his way into the final

942
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: couple seconds of the show. But like we just talked

943
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: about I mean, whenever it comes to the secondary, there's

944
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: question marks like there has been in the past, and

945
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: it's going to continue to be that way. The next

946
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, in the last seven games of the

947
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: year is going to tell a whole lot on how

948
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: this team is going to look heading into twenty twenty one.

949
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of tryouts being had for the

950
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: rest of the year and players going to have to

951
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: step it up and continue playing better like we've seen

952
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks. But that's gonna do

953
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 1: it for us, for Chris Beam in the back, for heckm. Harrison,

954
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: for Rob Phillips, for Isaiah stand Back. I'm Kyle Yeoman's

955
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: glad to have you back here after the bye week.

956
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: Will be back tomorrow, nine thirty. It's fans on the

957
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: fifty Tuesday. We'll see you in here on Talking Cowboys.

958
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