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Speaker 1: Plenty of stuff going on, not only here at training

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Speaker 1: Just a day after the Deshaun Watson suspension down comes

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Speaker 1: So the tampering has been handed down. Bruce Beale incidentally,

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Speaker 1: as the Dolphins vice chairman, he was fined five hundred

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Speaker 1: coverage and zone. I got to be in the right position,

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Speaker 1: the rights place, right space, And I feel like that's

427
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Speaker 1: that's that's that's evolved. You know, I'm I'm getting open

428
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Speaker 1: for him when he needs me open. I'm sitting in

429
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Speaker 1: his zone when he needs me to be there. And

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Speaker 1: you know, it's been, it's been. It's been awesome so far.

431
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: So out You've struck it out not knowing if you're

432
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: gonna make the team way back in the day, to

433
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: taking one year contracts to not testing the free agency.

434
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: What does it need to have right down that it

435
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: validates that your your decision to stick it out here

436
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 1: in Buffalo and knowing that you're in this position now

437
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Speaker 1: to earn a bigger role. Um. First off, you know,

438
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: I love being a Buffalo. I love the team, but

439
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: love the coach of staff, and I just feel like

440
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: it's a place I wanted to be, you know, no

441
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: matter what. And a lot of people say, hey, you

442
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: could go get some money somewhere else, or you can

443
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: be with somewhere else. I don't want to be nowhere else.

444
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: I've been here through the hard times. I know where

445
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: it felt like and I don't want to do that

446
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: in nowhere else. I felt like me staying here and

447
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: building with Josh and building with this team. Um, we

448
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 1: have we have something special, you know, whether it's going

449
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: to the FC Championship in twenty twenty, you want to

450
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: second round in twenty twenty one with thirteen seconds left,

451
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Speaker 1: and you know, I feel like we have a great

452
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Speaker 1: opportunity to do something big here and I want to

453
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Speaker 1: be a part of it. And you know, me taking

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Speaker 1: it out, you know, being a backup and I know

455
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: if I gonna make the team, just grinding it out,

456
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Speaker 1: I feel like it put me in a position I

457
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: am now that I can finally, you know, fight for

458
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: a starting position and you know, be that guy for jobs,

459
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: just like Beach was, and build that chemistry with the

460
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Speaker 1: team and help the team win the best way I can.

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00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna ask you, Paul, but knowing that history,

462
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Speaker 1: knowing that you were here for the hard times, when

463
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Speaker 1: you walk in, walk to practice every morning and see

464
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: that find a way, what does that? What does that

465
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Speaker 1: mean to you? What? What? What? What is the message?

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Speaker 1: What does that message to you? Me? Um, you know,

467
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: no matter if days are good days are bad, rainy day,

468
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: sunny days, you still gotta find a way no matter

469
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Speaker 1: what happens. You know, maybe it's a you know, an interception.

470
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Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta bounce back from the interception. Maybe

471
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Speaker 1: it's we're fighting to being a red this first and fifteen,

472
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: somebody jumped outside this Now it's first and twenty. You know,

473
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: you just gotta find a way to get it done.

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00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: And coach says that all the time out don't the field.

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Speaker 1: You know, we as receivers, we don't like to get

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Speaker 1: held or we don't like to get touched. And when

477
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Speaker 1: we running out, but the dbs are putting their hands

478
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Speaker 1: on us and they're holding us and stuff like that,

479
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Speaker 1: and Close said, hey, you know they're holding, but I

480
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Speaker 1: don't I don't care. You know, I want you to

481
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: find a way because you know, I don't know if

482
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Speaker 1: practice field they're holding. But in the game, you know

483
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, we canna get You're gonna get the calls,

484
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get as much holding. But we're gonna

485
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Speaker 1: grind it out during camp. But we're gonna find a

486
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Speaker 1: way to make this, you know, get open while they're holding.

487
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Speaker 1: We gonna find a way to catch the ball while

488
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Speaker 1: they're on top of us. Contested catches. We're gonna find

489
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Speaker 1: a way to run this ball even though we weren't

490
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Speaker 1: run it as much. It's a lot of things we

491
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: gotta find, you know, find a way with a lot

492
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Speaker 1: of things. And I feel like we're doing that this camp.

493
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Speaker 1: We're just finding a way to do a lot of

494
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Speaker 1: things that we're you know, whether we're not good at

495
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: or we don't do much of. Yeah, you mentioned how

496
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Speaker 1: there's maybe an increased responsibility to make sure you're doing

497
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Speaker 1: what you need to do for Josh, and Teana mentioned

498
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Speaker 1: the other day how as you have this bigger opportunity,

499
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: defenses are gonna playing more and more for you, which

500
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 1: makes your job more challenging to how do you balance

501
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: that of like the good and the bad of having

502
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Speaker 1: some of those break out moments where they'll look for you. Now, Um,

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Speaker 1: I gotta take to do with the bat, you know. Uh,

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00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: I got a great nickel in Taren Johnson. We go

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Speaker 1: out of every single day and I go back and

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Speaker 1: I watched the film of practice and I'm like, what

507
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: did he do to stop me on this route? What

508
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: did I do to beat him on this on this route?

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Speaker 1: And I look at that and I try to treat

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00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 1: it like as if you know, we got the next day,

511
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a game, even though it's gonna be practice.

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Speaker 1: And that's how I'm you know, practicing off the field,

513
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: you know, just you know, you know, not knowing what's

514
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: gonna happen with I'm the start or not. I just

515
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Speaker 1: want to be on top of it when that time comes.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, like say, yes, say that's

517
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Speaker 1: gonna be good times. They're gonna be bad times, but

518
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Speaker 1: I gotta stay level headed through the whole thing, through

519
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: the whole game, throughout the whole game. You know, if

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00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: a DV picks up a pass or you know they

521
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: figured me out, don't want you know, in a drive.

522
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: I gotta come back the next drive with the next

523
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Speaker 1: play and you know, come with something new, you know,

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00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: to come with something better to you know, get open.

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Speaker 1: Of course. Yeah, yeah, oh of course, yeah. I love it.

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Speaker 1: You know, like I said, Great Nickel or Terry Johnson,

527
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Speaker 1: like I said, we go out of every day and

528
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Speaker 1: today he had an interception and I got mad and

529
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: through my helmet because I don't want that to happen.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't want that for Josh and I

531
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Speaker 1: don't want that for the offense, and I want, like

532
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Speaker 1: I said, I want to be there for Josh. And

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Speaker 1: you know, it didn't happen that way, and Tara card

534
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: an interception and you know, great great Nichols, you know,

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00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: great corners do that. And it's okay because tomorrow that

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00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: won't happen. I won't make I will make sure that

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00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: will happen, all right. So that's I SAIH. McKenzie and

538
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: much like he and Josh Allen are on the same

539
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: page as because of the time they have spent together

540
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: more than any other quarterback receiver combo on this roster.

541
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Speaker 1: Mackenzie got here probably about five six weeks into the

542
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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen season, got picked up off waivers, and Josh,

543
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: as we know, was a twenty eighteen draft choice, So

544
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: they essentially kind of came in together for all intents

545
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: and purposes. And McKenzie and Josh for a little while,

546
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: we're working as backups doing scout team stuff, you know,

547
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: Josh's rookie year. So they've been you know, throwing and

548
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: catching from one another for the better part of the

549
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: last five years now. So it speaks to the chemistry

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00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: that we see on the field right now. Yeah, and

551
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: it's you know, the thing about it, this chemistry thing.

552
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: Certainly they play well together. They kind of have a

553
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,719
Speaker 1: mindset where Josh knows what what you know, Isaiah's gonna do,

554
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: and Isaiah knows what Josh wants him to do, and

555
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: how they think together, and all that goes without saying.

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00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that goes unnoticed in

557
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: this chemistry conversation. And it happened to me when I played,

558
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: and I've seen it happened to other guys as well,

559
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: like I saw it today, and I've seen it through

560
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: camp between Steph Diggson Josh when something bad happens or

561
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: when he misses a receiver on an open route where

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00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: he throws it someplace else, when it doesn't go the

563
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: way you want it to go, and to play, there's

564
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: no consequences. There's nobody unhappy. Yeah, there's nobody that's saying,

565
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: you know that guy, I'm come on, man, hit me

566
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: with the ball, or come do come out of that break.

567
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: None of that is there so that you don't have

568
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: these little rifts, these little you know, cold shoulder things

569
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: where steps mad at Josh for not getting him the

570
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: ball when he was open and Isaiah's not mad as

571
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: mad as not mad because he didn't get it when

572
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: his number was called. Josh didn't throw it to him

573
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: because he felt like he was too covered, And there's

574
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: none of this animosity. When stuff goes and it always

575
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: goes bad, it goes bad for everybody. That's what. That's

576
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: as much about chemistry as knowing each other and making

577
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: the great play together and all that. That's all, that's

578
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: all rainbow and sprinkles. The chemistry helps you when he's

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Speaker 1: not going great, where you can come over and sit

580
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: down and look at each other and say what do

581
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: you think? And I said, I saw this and I

582
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: saw that, and we can have it out. When things

583
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: are going bad, that's where chemistry is the most important.

584
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: It's easy enough to go down and run deep, throw

585
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: it deep, catch it, touchdown, let's come up with a

586
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: new celebrations. That's all fun and games. Guys who don't

587
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: like each other can do that. Yeah, the chemistry is

588
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: important because it always goes bad once in a while

589
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: and then that can't carry it through it. That gets

590
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: you through it without going into a dark space for

591
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: a month. So yeah, that chemistry is huge and it

592
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: leads to success. But it also gets you through the

593
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: tough time because you're not playing in a vacuum in

594
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. Those other guys are gonna make plays against

595
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: you once in a while. That chemistry gets you through

596
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: those times too, and that's as important as anything. We

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00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: have to take a break here because when we return,

598
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be joined by the Motor Devin Singletary, running

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00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: back for your Buffalo Bills. We'll be here on set

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Speaker 1: with us next here on one Bills Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. You see Tasker here

602
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: at Bill's training camp at Saint John Fisher, joined by

603
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: the Motor Devin Singletary, along with his young son, Miles

604
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: age two and future running back. Does he have five

605
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: points of pressure on that football right now? We're gonna

606
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: have to. We gotta work on the tech gad where

607
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: we'll get there. We'll get there. I'm sure you'll be

608
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: working with balls the length of half your body. It's hard,

609
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: it's kind of tough. I we'll give him a break

610
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: on that. We'll cut him some slack. How are you

611
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: doing all right? Man? I'm doing good. Three straight day, well,

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00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 1: not three straight days, but the last three practices all

613
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: in pads. I know that's kind of when the game

614
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: gets a little more real. You know, it's closer. But

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00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: for a running back, you kind of need that to

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Speaker 1: get ready, right. Definitely, definitely was looking forward to pass

617
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Speaker 1: because that's like you said, that's when we get ready.

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00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: We get a feel for things even more and you know,

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Speaker 1: get getting ready for actual game speed. How's it gone

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00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: so far? It's been going smooth. You know, like like

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Speaker 1: the first two days kind of getting your feet feet under,

622
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: You're trying to get that feeling back. The third day

623
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: we kind of call it dog day because you might

624
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: be feeling a little tired or whatever, but you know,

625
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: it feels good to be back out here. Man. There

626
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: may not be anybody better to ask this of than you,

627
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey's new offensive coordinator. You're the guy standing there

628
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: next to Josh in the backfield all the time. What

629
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: do you feel is different maybe coming down the pipe

630
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: with this offense with Ken Dorsey calling the plays rather

631
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: than Brian David Um. I mean, I'm kind of still

632
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: getting a field for it, you know. But what I

633
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: can say, you know, Ken he brings a lot of

634
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: great energy day in day out, and God's follow that. Gods,

635
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: Gods are feeling that it's rubbing off on gods. Um,

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00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: that's the best way to put it so far. You know,

637
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: it's still early on. Like I said, we're still getting

638
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: the field, but every day he brings great energy. What

639
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 1: we've asked a couple of players now, like give us

640
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: a word or two words to describe coach Dorsey's approach

641
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: as a play caller. Gabe Davis said the same thing

642
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: as a couple other guys. Aggressive. That is that kind

643
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: of an accurate early read on coach. Yeah, sidling assessin

644
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: all the way, all the way, that's him all the way. Why,

645
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: like you just kind of feel like that's his makeup,

646
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: Like I mean, that's just the energy he brings. Yeah,

647
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: that's just the energy he brings, you know what I'm saying.

648
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 1: And like I said, you can feel that. Everybody feels

649
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: that and it's rubbing off on us. Okay, yeah, and

650
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: you can tell. I mean it's hard to know too

651
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: because you're installing so much and then offensive new you're

652
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: getting reps against guys and you know you're getting reps

653
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: and maybe sometimes you run the same play a couple

654
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: of times. You never get to run this other play

655
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: because somebody else has turned to run at that kind

656
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: of thing. H What has it been like in the

657
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: meeting rooms? How has he handled the room? It's it's

658
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: different when you guys sitting next to you in the

659
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: meeting and all of a sudden, now he's at the

660
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: front of the room and running meeting. Yeah. I mean

661
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: um approaches is being hungry, being aggressive, and playing fast,

662
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And every day he preaches

663
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: focus on today, win today, you know what I'm saying.

664
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: And with that approach, I feel like that's a great approach.

665
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: You can only get better with that approach because you're

666
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: focusing on what's in front of you and being in

667
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: and now Helen and was now right? Yeah? How is

668
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,959
Speaker 1: the South Florida crew? You're running back him? All South

669
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 1: Florida guys, I mean even the vet Duke Johnson, South

670
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: Florida guy. Do you guys make fun of Coach Skipper

671
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: because he's from California? Like, how's it? How's it? How

672
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: much does that help the vibe in the room, because

673
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: there's a different way in which you guys can all relate.

674
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: Because if it's something as simple as Hey, you know

675
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: that restaurant down there, because everybody can kind of relate

676
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: to being from the same place. How does that help

677
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: the relationship in the room? Man, it helps out a lot. Man,

678
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: Like you said, m Duke being an older god from Florida,

679
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: we all watched the Duke. Duke was like, he's a

680
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: legend in Florida. What I'm saying? Then you got the

681
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: young guys. We all kind of played with each other,

682
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: played against each other, or heard about each other, and

683
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: and it just helps we all South Florida guys is

684
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: like family already because we already knew each other and

685
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: knew of each other. So it's just like when once

686
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: we got here, we just hit the ground running. And

687
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: and you were already training with James and his brother Dalvin. Right,

688
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: you guys all kind of trained together. How many years

689
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: have you been training to Yeah, I guess a little

690
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: bit more with Dalvin. Two years with two years with Jay. Okay,

691
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: how did that go when you found out, Hey, they're

692
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: gonna take you know, my team got my guy. I

693
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: just gotta be a man. It was love. It was

694
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: love because you know him before he was even drafted,

695
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: you know. Of course, he asked questions about the lead

696
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 1: or whatever. So we're already building a bun even before then.

697
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: When I see that, I'm like, oh, this is definitely

698
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: about to be love. We're in the same backfield. We

699
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: could tear it up together. Now let's do it, you

700
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it was all love and

701
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: all yeah. And there's times where I gotta believe running

702
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: backs that know each other as well as you two do.

703
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: You're kind of leaning on Coach Dorsey a little bit. Hey,

704
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: what about a little what about a little two back?

705
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: What about a little pony backfield here? Maybe we do

706
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: some of that, like get us on the field the

707
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: same time Coach like a little nudge, little yeah, like yeah,

708
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: give us an idea now too. That and that's one

709
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: of one of the hot topics for us out here,

710
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: thinking well, you got you, Now you got James Cook,

711
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: Now you got you know O. J. Howard, you got

712
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: your Crowder and McKenzie and of course with Gabe and

713
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: and step on the outside, you got some guys. There's

714
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: there's only one football, but with all these guys, it

715
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: does give you the idea that maybe different personnel is

716
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: gonna come. It's gonna be a bigger deal for the

717
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: Bill's offense. Definitely. Man, we got weapons all over the offense,

718
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: like you guys are saying, and that gives us an

719
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: opportunity that mix up in different packages. This package for

720
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: these guys, this package for these guys. Let's go to work,

721
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So this season't gonna be excited.

722
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 1: One thing we've talked a lot about because the position

723
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: group that has seen the biggest overhaul is that D line.

724
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: And I know Von attracts a certain amount of attention

725
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: for good reason, but you're getting a good look at

726
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: those guys on the interior. And I know you know

727
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: Jordan from the last time he was here, but dea

728
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: Quon and Tim Settle, I mean, those are proven run stoppers.

729
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: And since you get you get a front row seat

730
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: to that in practice, in team for the run periods.

731
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: What do those guys look like? How formidable do they appear?

732
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: You know when you're running at him trying to find

733
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: the creeks? Now, you're definitely gonna field up presence every day,

734
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: and you're gonna every day. Yeah, and that's that's that's

735
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: what we love about it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

736
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: it's only gonna make everyone better, from the old line

737
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: to the running backs of the Titans. Is everybody better,

738
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We're banging every day and

739
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: the same even on our side. We got some good

740
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: guys on the offensive, so we're battling every day. Overall,

741
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: we all gonna be better at the end of the day.

742
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: And one of the things we've been talking to their

743
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: offensive line is it's a little bit of a mess now,

744
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: not because they can't play, but because they're they're moving

745
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: guys all over the place. Dion was gone for a

746
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,479
Speaker 1: couple of days for personal reasons. Um, you got Brown,

747
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: Spencer Brown can't get in there, you know, to get it.

748
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: Bates is still out. You got guys nicked up, Um

749
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: Latin Tommy Doyle had to walk off yesterday, got hurt.

750
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: And they're shuffling guys around all over the place. And

751
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: in the meeting room you're going over film. You know

752
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: what are the coaches saying about how they're handling all

753
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: these problems they've got this early and camp certainly they're

754
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: not gonna be there as can't progresses. It's gonna get

755
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: better and better, but for now, kind of a mess

756
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: how the coach is handling that. I mean, that's that's

757
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: the name of the game. You never know what's gonna

758
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: happen throughout the season. So this could take place. Of

759
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: course we don't want it to, but it could. So

760
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: God's got to be ready to step in and step

761
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: up for the team whatever it may be. And that's

762
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: the thing about about our team and our culture. Guys

763
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: are always ready to step in no matter what it is.

764
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: If it's for the team, Gods are willing to do that.

765
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: And um and at the end of the day, like

766
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: I always say, it's gonna make us better, you know

767
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. How much have you been kind of

768
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: a sounding board for James? Like James is kind of

769
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: quiet as capt you know, say much. I'm sure he

770
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: talks to you a whole lot more. What what do

771
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: you find are the questions he's coming to you with,

772
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: knowing you've been immersed in this offense for you know,

773
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: three years now, right. I mean, he's a gamer, he's

774
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: a ball player. But it could it could be a

775
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: simple question just about his pass for or I could

776
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: have been more insight, or I could have shot my

777
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: hands quicker, or him running a route. What you what

778
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: you saw on that motor? What you thought maybe I

779
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: could have did this, maybe I could have did that.

780
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: And we're just bouncing ideas off each other, you know

781
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I'm giving him the not that

782
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: I learned throughout the game. And we're getting better. That's

783
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: what it's about. You get You've seen James do his thing,

784
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: You've seen nap crowders back on the field. Um, how

785
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: impatient are you guys? And about you know the expectations

786
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: that have been placed on this team or sky high? Yeah,

787
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: you still gotta wait to kick it off exactly like um,

788
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: I told you guys the other day. I mean like

789
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: we're excited with anxious. We're trying not to be too anxious,

790
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because we're definitely ready to

791
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: play another team. We're tired of banging up on each other.

792
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: You're ready to go bang up on somebody else. But

793
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: we just gotta keep taking it day by day and

794
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: before we know, they'll be that time. Well, we're reading

795
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: up on your you know the fun facts in the media, guy,

796
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: there's some good ones in here. Um. First of all,

797
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: I share your affinity for Captain crunch So good on you, um,

798
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: although I know some of you younger guys kind of

799
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: leaning towards the crunch berries. I'm telling you original Captain

800
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: Crunch is underrated man, and it never And here's the

801
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: best part about Captain Crunch, Steve. Yeah, you can leave

802
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: it there for a half hour. I say, there is

803
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: there is a there is a window where it becomes

804
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: more edible the longer it soaks. I would just wonder

805
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: if you guys have like a do you leave it

806
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: or do you try? And do you just risk can

807
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: do murder on your gums? Do you risk the roof

808
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: of your mouth and just go ahead? And the chow down?

809
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that your take? It just depends on

810
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: what's going on, you know, sometimes enough to wait. Yeah,

811
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: sometimes I might get right into her, or I might

812
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: be dealing with mouths. We might be running around. Second,

813
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: I'll come back and it's still good to go. Yeah.

814
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: So what is number one on the crunchberry list? Because

815
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: I mean, they got peanut butter, they got crunch berries,

816
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: they got regular Where what's your runk? I'm going with

817
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: the origin. Yeah, I'm an original guy too. I mean

818
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: I'll eat the crunchberries don't get me wrong. Yeah, yeah,

819
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's my theory on everything. There's certain aspect

820
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: like pizza Pepperoni Pizzas has made millions of dollars. Don't

821
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: go off on the pineapple. And here the same thing

822
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: with that's West Coast, that same thing with Captain Crunch.

823
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: Go with the original. That's what made the franchise stick

824
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: with that. The other thing that I saw is you

825
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: want you want to learn how to ski? You're talking

826
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: snow skin or you're talking water skin, because no, I

827
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: do want to I want to snowski. Yeah yeah, but yeah,

828
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: wait till you die. Yeah wait, I don't need you

829
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: tearing a knee up on an That's what I heard

830
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: about it. That's why I said, I'm gonna wait an afternoon,

831
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: and I do want to learn a Snowski. And I

832
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: had to give it up for a while, all right,

833
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: all right, So yeah, it's a good idea because it's

834
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: it's not hard, oh for an athlete, but it's easy. Yeah,

835
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: it's still dangerous, yeah yeah. And yeah it's like driving.

836
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: It's not just you either. Somebody come crashing into you

837
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: know if you're going yeah, wah. And it is worth

838
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: it though, it'll be worth the way. So how is

839
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: family life? Man? I mean, you you know, once you

840
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: have a kid, you know, that whole thing changes the

841
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: dynamics of being a professional athlete, budgeting your time, you know,

842
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: wanting to make sure you have enough time for your

843
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: family as well as your craft. How have you adjusted

844
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: to balancing all that over the last couple of years.

845
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: I feel like it's been a smooth you know. Um

846
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: at first, at first it was a challenge, you know,

847
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 1: like you said, because I wasn't used to it. I'll say,

848
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: like the first couple of months. But I'm after that, man,

849
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: it was all off, you know, and I got an

850
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: amazing partner. She makes my life easy. She makes my

851
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: life easy, and we got help. So that's always good. Yeah.

852
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: Laughing too because we're sitting here talking and you know,

853
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: Josh is moving around. Everybody starts yelling at every time

854
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: the guy does something. It's it's like he's like Elvis,

855
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: He's moving around. How have you guys like Josh has

856
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: been a great teammate since you guys came in. Uh,

857
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: you know the expectations that are put on him, you guys,

858
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: how has Josh? I mean, what's the thing every year

859
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: Josh's gotten significantly better. But last year, at the end

860
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: of the season, you yourself finished the season on a tear,

861
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: on a tear you got, you were ripping it up,

862
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: Josh was ripping it up. What's the vibe between you

863
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: and Josh and the and the offense about what's the

864
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: next step for Josh? What's your next step? What you

865
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: guys thought individually if you've had conversations with him, Yeah, man, Um,

866
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: Josh's definitely stepping more into that leader role and I

867
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: and I'm rap behind him. You know, I might not

868
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: say much, but but I'll leave by example. You know

869
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. My actions are always going to speak louder.

870
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: And then just this year, man, be better than we

871
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: was last year. But that's always low and what that.

872
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: You just gotta take it day by day. But me

873
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: and Josh, our connection is only getting getting better and

874
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: better and better each year. So man, I'm looking forward to.

875
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: The last one I got for you is with a

876
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: new line coach and Aaron Cromer. You know, his techniques

877
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: for the lineman may change. Can that impact how you

878
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: read your lineman and work off blocks when their techniques

879
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: might change, Does that require a different read on your part, like, yes,

880
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: it is my question a certain way. Yeah, depending on

881
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: how they're blocking me, the steps might be a little different,

882
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: or you might have to cut it up a little

883
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: earlier or be a little more patient. Just depends on

884
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: the depending on the play. So it does a little bit.

885
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: But that's not a big not at all. Okay. That's

886
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: why I love that we got pads on now because

887
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: we could get a great feel for it. Last one

888
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: from me, big changes on the offensive coach and Steff

889
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: we talked about in Dorsey. But but it's also the

890
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: offensive line coach, Like we spoke about the running backs

891
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: coaching now new quarterbacks, a lot of new voices in

892
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the room. How what kind of

893
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: and for all of us out here, that's a huge

894
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: question mark because of how that's all coming together. It's

895
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: just because we haven't seen it, right, Because we haven't

896
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: seen it, how do you answer those questions? Yeah, I

897
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: mean I feel like it's it's been smooth. Like the

898
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: guys that we bring into this culture are are light

899
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: minded in the way um and when we coach Sar

900
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: McDermot and coach brand I mean and Brandon be have

901
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: been been in a great culture. So that helps, you

902
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's the best way to

903
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: put it is, it's been smooth. Of course, it's gonna

904
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: be a couple of bunks along the way, but you

905
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: gotta get over it. That's that's life, you know what

906
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, thanks Motor, great scene. You man appreciate

907
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: the times. That's Devin Singletary joining us. Stay one piece, bro, Yeah, exactly,

908
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: Stay healthy. That's Motor Singletary joining us here on one.

909
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: Bill is live, will take a break, feeback with more,

910
00:45:50,640 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: stay two. It's summer and Bill's head coach, Sean McDermott

911
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: wants us all thinking about sun defense. Coach is passionate

912
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: about skin cancer prevention as it runs in his family,

913
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: and he takes sun protection very seriously. Most importantly, of course,

914
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: is wearing sunscreen. Right now, you can stop by your

915
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: local Wegmans for all of your sun protection needs. Wagmans

916
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: will donate one dollar for every Wegman's sunscreen product sold

917
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: through August thirty first in their Buffalo, Rochester and Syracuse stores.

918
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: It's a great way to protect your family, help the

919
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: fight against skin cancer, and think sun defense like Bill's

920
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: head coach Sean McDermott Steve we had Stephen Ross issue

921
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: a statement in the wake of his suspension and one

922
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: point five million dollars fine, as well as forfeiture of

923
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: a first and third round pick in twenty twenty three

924
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Brian Flores, who levied several of these

925
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: allegations against Ross and the Dolphins organization, has also released

926
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: a statement in which he says, I am thankful that

927
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: the NFL's investigator found my factual allegations against Stephen Ross

928
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: are true. At the same time, I am disappointed to

929
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 1: learn that the investigator minimized mister Ross's offers and pressure

930
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: to tank games, especially when I wrote and submitted a

931
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: letter at the time to Dolphins executives documenting my serious

932
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: concerns regarding this subject at the time, which the investigator

933
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: has in her possession. While the investigator found that the

934
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: Dolphins had engaged in impermissible tampering of unprecedented scope and severity,

935
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: mister Ross will avoid any meaningful consequence. There is nothing

936
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: more important when it comes to the game of football

937
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: itself than the integrity of the game. When the integrity

938
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: of the game is called into question, fans suffer and

939
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: football suffers. He is right, I mean, basically, Stephen Ross

940
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: has been penalized for his tampering violations. There were no

941
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: penalties levied because of his accusations of tanking and purposely

942
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: trying to lose games to improve the team's draft pick. Meanwhile,

943
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: here's the statement from the attorneys for Brian Flores, who

944
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: in most cases always have to be heard in some way,

945
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: shape or form after the case like this is over.

946
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: So the statement from Douglas Wigdore and John LF. Taracas.

947
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: We have always been very confident the coach Flores will

948
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: ultimately be substantiated when it comes to his legal claims

949
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: and allegations. Today marks the first step in that process,

950
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: as the NFL's independent investigator, Mary Joe White, has confirmed

951
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: the truth of Brian's allegations of tampering. While we vehemently

952
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: disagree with the conclusions regarding the tanking allegations, we note

953
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: that the investigator confirmed the accuracy of the factual allegations

954
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: made by mister Flores. We are certainly disheartened that the

955
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: investigator and apparently the commissioner excused highly inappropriate comments that

956
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: go to the heart of the game's integrity regarding tanking

957
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 1: as being ingest, especially when there was a letter written

958
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: by coach Flores at the time demonstrating the gravity with

959
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: which these comments were received by coach Flores. So it's

960
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: basically he said, she said. What we have learned is

961
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 1: that even the league and Mary Joe White, the independent arbitrator,

962
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: determined that there was some disconnect between the context of

963
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: those comments, the severity the seriousness of those comments. But

964
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: the accuracy has not been questioned. So where do we

965
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: come down on that? Jeez, I don't know, but it

966
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: is a little bit surprising that the integrity of the

967
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: game kind of goes by the board in terms of penalties.

968
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: And I guess evidence of the seriousness of those comments

969
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: is hard to prove. And we've seen this before. We

970
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: saw yesterday with the Deshaun Watson's suspension. When you don't

971
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: have the evidence to corroborate the allegations, it's hard to

972
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 1: levy a hard and fast suspension. So he just gets

973
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: pinched on Tampa, right, And you can say what you

974
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: want about it or whether people think about the severity

975
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: of it, think about where Dolphins fans are today, And

976
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: I know Bills fans don't have any love. They're out

977
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: of their God, they're out of there. Can you imagine

978
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: an owner as a fan watching the owner of your

979
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: franchise who's had their franchise get it kicked out of

980
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: them for twenty years by this guy, by Tom Brady.

981
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: Then have your owner offer him a piece of the

982
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: franchise to come play quarterback for that for You're giving

983
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: the guy your team and he having him come play

984
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: for you. Man, it makes you want to puke. I

985
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: haven't think about that. If if the Bills did that,

986
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: if they said, okay, Tom, you come play, we'll give

987
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: you ten percent ownership, and the team come play for

988
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: us under this new head coach. On man, that it

989
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: makes it makes you sick. Oh my god, yeah, oh

990
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: you were playing some of the Dolphins fans I rate

991
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: social posts after the and they penalty came down and

992
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: they're like, we can't catch a break. We can't catch

993
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: a break, we can't even cheat the right way. It

994
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: is so bad. I'm enjoying it. It is so bad,

995
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: as you often say, I am lapping it up like chocolate.

996
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: It's delicious, alious. Let me taste your tears. Yes, all right,

997
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's so bad. It's not good, and

998
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: it's only gonna get worse. And on top of that,

999
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: they don't have a first round pick next year, at

1000
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: least their own first round pick. I have to check,

1001
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: because I know they've been stockpiling picks the last few years.

1002
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: If memory serves they, this was the year they used them.

1003
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: I think they only had one, which was their own.

1004
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if they have another via trade. So yeah,

1005
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: they might be without a first round pick next year.

1006
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: We'll have to double check that during the break, which

1007
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: is where we are headed now. When we come back

1008
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: second hour of the show, in due course, we will

1009
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: have one hat Kerwin from NFL Series XM Radio and

1010
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: our serious XM NFL Radio. I always mix up the

1011
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: order of that stuff. But Pat will join us as

1012
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: he and Jim Miller here covering Bill's training camp this week,

1013
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: so we'll check in with him here in the second hour.

1014
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: Steve and I plenty more to discuss with you in

1015
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: terms of what went on on the field today here

1016
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: at day eight, Steve and I back in a second

1017
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: here on one Bill's Live presented by Collid to Health,

1018
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker, who has

1019
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: been all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was

1020
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: kind of a dual role player for you, Steve, Steve

1021
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: a blimp. We're not even in the straded beer of normalcy.

1022
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: Our number two here on what day of the weekend? Tuesday?

1023
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: There you go, Tuesday Day eight on the field and

1024
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: second hour of the show here Steve. You know, we'll

1025
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: have Pat Kerwin along in a little bit. We may

1026
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: also hear from Oj Howard who address the media today.

1027
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: But the details of the exact nature of the tampering

1028
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: of the Miami Dolphins has been released by the NFL

1029
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:36,479
Speaker 1: in a statement, and basically the tampering policy the anti

1030
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: tampering policy was violated by the Dolphins on three separate occasions. Twice,

1031
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: the team illegally contacted Tom Brady in twenty nineteen when

1032
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: he was with the Patriots, and then again in twenty

1033
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: twenty one when he was with the Bucks and still

1034
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: under contract, which we know is patently illegal. Then they

1035
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: also contacted his agent after the twenty twenty one season,

1036
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: offered him an ownership stake in the club to be

1037
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: a football executive and to possibly still play. And then

1038
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: in January of this year, the Dolphins had impermissible communications

1039
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 1: with Don Yee, the agent for Saints head coach Sean Payton.

1040
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: Bad enough, you called his agent, you know, talk to

1041
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: him out of school. You didn't even ask permission to

1042
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: speak to Sean Payton prior to Sean Payton deciding to retire.

1043
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: Then he retires, then they asked permission to speak with him.

1044
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: And here's the best part. The Saints denied denied the request.

1045
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: So the statement from the league is, the investigators found

1046
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: tampering violations of unprecedented scope and severity. Oh my gosh,

1047
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: I know of no prior instance of a team violating

1048
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: the prohibition on tampering with both the head coach and

1049
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: star player to the potential detriment of multiple other clubs

1050
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: over a period of several years. Similarly, I know of

1051
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: no prior instance in which ownership was so directly involved

1052
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: in the violations. Usually, if you're the owner of the

1053
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: team and you're gonna do something nefarious, you have henchman

1054
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: to handle that, don't you. You don't do it yourself.

1055
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: You have what they call what they in the Godfather

1056
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: a buffer. Yeah, you have a buffer. There's at least

1057
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: two degrees of separation between you and the actual violations.

1058
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: He's got his hands in the middle of it. It's

1059
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: like he may It's like he's sitting there with his

1060
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: feet up on the desk, just saying, listen, I'm gonna

1061
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: call this guy. I mean he might, he might have

1062
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: the lowest IQ of a billionaire we got gon. I

1063
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: just don't think he I just think he says, it's

1064
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: not a big deal. You know, they're we're living in

1065
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: the toy department sports. It's not like we're talking and

1066
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna make this call and

1067
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: ain't nobody gonna say anything? He what are they gonna do?

1068
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: So he just picked up the phone and said, hey, yeah,

1069
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: this is Steven Ross. I want to talk to Tom Brady.

1070
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: Say hey guy, how you doing. Hey, We're here's what

1071
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: we're thinking. And he just starts talking. Yeah. Seriously, man,

1072
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: it's bad. I mean it's not You're just indicating that

1073
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: the rules don't apply to you. If you're acting that way,

1074
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 1: it seems thinking the rules are like they're not really serious.

1075
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: They're not serious about it, And I'm an owner. What

1076
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: are they gonna do? Where they Yeah, but you know what,

1077
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: what's what's the difference. Who cares whether I talk to

1078
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: this guy or not. You know, apparently it's a big deal.

1079
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: Apparently it's a big deal. Uh. I just I can't

1080
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: get over it. I keep thinking about Dolphins fans and

1081
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: listen to that here, think about that. Now. I'm in

1082
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: a different spot than a lot of guys. So I

1083
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: in broadcasting. I've crossed paths with a ton of those guys.

1084
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: You know, Kim Bocamper on the radio side, and all

1085
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: the gutten Rose that Joe Joe Rose who does their

1086
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: play by play, uh Bonacani not Nick Bonacani, and uh

1087
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: Jimmy Cephalo uh. And obviously I'm friends with Dan Marino,

1088
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: who's in the organization, travels with the club and all that.

1089
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: So I got all these guys and they're they're they're

1090
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: tremendous guys. And I laugh because it kind of bummed

1091
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: me out when I found out how great guys they were,

1092
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: because I used to hate it. Right, So I'm thinking

1093
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: about all those guys, Like Dan Marino's sitting there and

1094
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: he's looking at the guy, going, you're gonna give You're

1095
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: gonna get Brady ten percent of the team. Like I've

1096
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: got I got blood, sweat and tears in the organization.

1097
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: I left my achilles in the on the ground in

1098
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: Cleveland for this organization. I wore shoes that didn't match

1099
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: playing for this organ because I was so nicked up.

1100
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: And you're gonna give that guy ten percent of the club?

1101
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: You it? I don't even want to say, yeah, well,

1102
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: that's why I just take Stephen Ross gets it. Don shoot.

1103
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: Is gonna sit up in his grave and come as

1104
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: a zombie and strangle that guy? Oh man, I can't.

1105
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable to think about from that perspective. Now I

1106
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: get it too. You get in these business things and

1107
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: it's and I've said it a couple of times. The

1108
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: guy goes, it's like some cockamami ideas, like, you know

1109
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: what we should do it like over a scotch, here's

1110
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: what we should do. Get Brady to come in here

1111
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: and play quarterback for us, and get Sean Payton to

1112
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: play get headcares. Oh, well, we can't do that. Peyton

1113
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: works with Peyton's under contract with the Saints, and Brady

1114
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: we don't even know if he's gonna retire yet. And

1115
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: he goes, here's what we do. We can see the cigar.

1116
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: We'll give him ten percent ownership. That'll do it. He'll

1117
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: want that. We'll offer him ten percent of ownership. And well,

1118
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: what about Sean Payton, because I'll call him myself. I'll

1119
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: call him tell him if he wants to even that.

1120
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about. Well, and if you think

1121
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: about all the minority owners of the Dolphins and the

1122
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: people that Stephen Ross probably has to answer to, you

1123
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: could see him getting there in the scenario that you

1124
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: just painted. You got the Williams sisters, you got j Lo,

1125
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: you got a lot of high falutin people that are like, hey, uh, Stephen,

1126
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: when the hell are we gonna win? Are gonna win anything?

1127
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: That's where Stephen puffs out his chest and says, h

1128
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: don't worry. I'll talk to Brady. I'll offer him some

1129
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: Brady good enough for you, because I'm gonna get him

1130
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: for us, and I'll offer him ten percent of the

1131
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: team and we'll get him. He'll play for us Super

1132
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: Bowl and you'll be happy, you'll make million, you'll be

1133
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: shown up in your box looking good. It'll be great. Yeah.

1134
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: I don't know as far as the tanking goes, though,

1135
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: the investigation conclusively established the Dolphins did not intentionally lose

1136
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: games during the twenty nineteen season, nor did anyone at

1137
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: the club, including mister Ross, instructing coach Floors to do so.

1138
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: No witness contended otherwise. The Dolphins completed hard to win

1139
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: every game, including at the end of the season when

1140
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: they beat Cincinnati in New England, despite worsening Miami's position

1141
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty draft. On a number of occasions

1142
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: during the twenty nineteen season, mister Ross expressed his belief

1143
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: that the Dolphins position in the upcoming twenty twenty draft

1144
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: should take priority over the team's one loss record in

1145
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. These common we're apparently made to a number

1146
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: of front office executives as well as Coach Flores. Now

1147
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:09,959
Speaker 1: Coach Flores took them seriously, but according to Ross's side

1148
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: of the argument, they were made in jest. So one

1149
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: such comment is acclaimed offer by mister Ross to pay

1150
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: coach Floras one hundred grand to lose games, as to

1151
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: which there are differing recollection recollections about the wording, timing,

1152
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: and context. However phrased, such a comments was not intended

1153
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: or taken to be a serious offer, nor was the

1154
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: subject pursued in any respect by mister Ross or anyone

1155
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: else at the club. Well, how would you know? You

1156
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: may have gone to mister Flores and asked and he

1157
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: was like, well, I'm not doing that. Who's to say

1158
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: he didn't go to other coaches if he didn't get

1159
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: Flores to jump on board, you know what I mean?

1160
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: Like or players? Yeah, that's ugly. How do you not

1161
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: have any kind of penalty for even hinting at tanking?

1162
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: Hinting at tanking and don't and you gotta have a

1163
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: penalty for that of some sort. And it's not you know,

1164
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I talked about it. I wasn't serious. Oh okay,

1165
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: it's all right, don't worry about it. Wait what wait? Wait,

1166
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: come on now, all right, I get all that I started.

1167
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: Oh I said it, but I just I wasn't being serious.

1168
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: But now think about seriously. Wait, I just this just

1169
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: occurred to me. And this I don't know if I

1170
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: can get it out without laughing, because because so they

1171
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: go through all that, so he wants to tank. So

1172
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: the owners like pulls his pulse rank We're gonna tank.

1173
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: They go, all right, cool, justin Herbert's available. This is

1174
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: a guy can really play. You know, we're gonna get

1175
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: a guy who can really go No, no, no, we're

1176
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: tanking for Tuah. Yeah, so they tanked and picked I mean,

1177
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: there's no proof that they tanked because they did win

1178
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: their not only not only is it bad idea to

1179
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: do that, they picked the wrong pick the wrong and

1180
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: the La Chargers is still laughing today. Unbelievable, boy, unbelievable

1181
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: that you know, that's the thing. Here's the thing. There's

1182
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: in this whole thing, in this whole scenario, and this

1183
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: is why it's so hard to do. To win in

1184
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: this league. You need really good players, but you also

1185
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: have a million other moving parts that you got to

1186
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: get right. Think about where the Cleveland Browns are now,

1187
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: they had this roster put together last year they had

1188
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: and they had the first pick of that eighteen twenty

1189
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: eighteen draft. Yeah, where you got guys in there and

1190
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: you got you got the first pick, and and Baker Mayfield,

1191
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: who has had moments and you think, okay, now we've

1192
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: supported when we got it. Now now Baker Mayfield goes

1193
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: down with the shoulder, tries to play through it, and

1194
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: your teeth, your season goes south or every and every

1195
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: other scenario we've seen over the years where you get

1196
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 1: this team put together and you know, something happens and

1197
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: it goes south. It's and then you get a team

1198
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: like Cincinnati who can't get out of their way for years.

1199
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: They're a nondescript, non competitive football team. They pick a guy,

1200
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: they get the guys, they got the first pick, but

1201
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: then they got this. They don't even have an offensive

1202
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: Their offensive line was spit and staples. And this kid

1203
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: doesn't care. He just takes in the super Bowl. It's you.

1204
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: It's impossible to get all of those million things lined

1205
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: up the way you want it and think, okay, we're

1206
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: gonna go. Certainly, the Bills are right there, the Packers

1207
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: are right there, and you need a quarterback. You gotta

1208
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: have all those things. But there's no guarantees. The Bills

1209
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: are supposed to win it all this year, but there's

1210
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: no guarantee they're even gonna get close. There's no guarantees.

1211
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: There's nothing that says you're gonna and to sit there

1212
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: and say, let's let's just do all this to me,

1213
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: and there's like no other, no better way to do it.

1214
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: The Bills are living proof there's better ways to do it. Yes,

1215
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: every team in the league who's done it the way

1216
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: the Bills, that the way the Patriots did it, the

1217
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: way the Bills have done it, the way that the

1218
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers have done it, for the way the

1219
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs did it, the way the Chargers are

1220
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: getting it done, the way the Denver Broncos have tried

1221
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: to do it. Now, they've tried and tried and tried it.

1222
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: But I've said this all along. Quarterbacks important, and they

1223
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: were washing through those guys. They did not waste any

1224
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:29,959
Speaker 1: time on a guy that was not the guy because

1225
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: they had John Elway there who knew what he was

1226
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: looking at. They did not give this the lest find

1227
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: out this. We don't need the we don't need to

1228
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: replace everybody on the roster to find out if this

1229
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: guy can play. I can tell by looking at him

1230
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: he can't play. Let's get another one in. And they

1231
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: were right, but you still got to do that. You know,

1232
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: they chose to try to take shortcuts and they end

1233
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: up being set back even further because of it. Draft

1234
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: picks getting docked. That's right, It's oh my gosh, it's yeah.

1235
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: Just you know, just pick the right guys, pick quality people.

1236
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: Support him until they figured out let's go and develop them. Yeah,

1237
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: we want to shift gears back to the Bills now. Though,

1238
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: after that discussion about the Dolphins and their penalties for tampering,

1239
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: OJ Howard addressed the media today following practice. I thought

1240
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: he had his best day of training camp yesterday. Steve

1241
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: and Practice made some nice plays in the passing game.

1242
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: Is he finally starting to gain some traction within the

1243
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: scope of this offense? We'll hear from OJ Howard himself.

1244
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: Now here is the Bills tight end? What's other biggest

1245
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: difference so far? Just? Uh? I would you say, honestly,

1246
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: every day like seeing it like the stadium kind of

1247
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: pat the fans will come out in Tampa a little bit,

1248
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 1: but certain days, like during the week, like tuesdays, maybe

1249
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: they had work, but out here every day. I mean,

1250
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: I was surprised to see that. So that's pretty cool

1251
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: now that you now that you've had a little more

1252
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: time seeing what your role is gonna look like in

1253
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: this offense. I know it's early, but what are you

1254
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: healing so far? When as the coaching stop telling you

1255
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: about what you could expoct Yeah, you know, it's just

1256
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 1: you know, learning the offense in general, being ready to

1257
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: be able to do more than one position. It's what

1258
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 1: I've noticed that everybody has to be in different positions

1259
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: at any time and be able to play any position

1260
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: on the offense out of information, So that's really what

1261
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: I noticed. And just being able to be utilized in

1262
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 1: all areas of the offense so you can always get utilized.

1263
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,439
Speaker 1: So that's what I've learned the most. Really tight ends

1264
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: a long flying you know, just different flying off everywhere,

1265
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,959
Speaker 1: different role. I mean you feel like, are you picking

1266
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: it off your fetish back? Oh yeah, for sure. I

1267
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: think for sure. OTA's helped a lot. Uh. That was

1268
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: that was the biggest thing for me. Um, that I

1269
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: that I went there early and got a chance to

1270
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: go to all the OTAs and learn the offense and

1271
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: then um and then coming out of training camp taking

1272
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, all kind of like you're kind

1273
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: of losing a little bit, but then two days inn

1274
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: you're like, oh yeah I remember that, you know, and

1275
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: then just a little detail so and it allows me

1276
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: to play fast, So yeah, I'm picking it up for sure.

1277
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: Bull ran you know the offense and came from the

1278
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: New England three Uh, you know, Brady installed his offense.

1279
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: Is there are some carry off similarities that you can say,

1280
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that I get that, that's that concept from

1281
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: time of that a lot. Man. I even I said

1282
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: in the meetings all the time to my coach, you know,

1283
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: we talked about it that way because that's what helped

1284
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: me learn to quick you know, that's what That's what

1285
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: otis with Tom was talking about. You know, the terminology

1286
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: is different, but it's the same concepts, like you say,

1287
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: and I think that really helped me the most, just understanding, uh,

1288
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: sometimes who you're trying to get open or what what

1289
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: read are you in that concept. So it definitely helped

1290
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: a lot, like to come into the league where he

1291
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: didn't physically and and then deal with injuries and then

1292
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: after adjust I'm assuming in some parts, and then coming

1293
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: maybe figuring out your role and still staying positive and

1294
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: very excited and all those those things that I have

1295
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: to cover with playing stand Yeah. Uh, you know that

1296
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: just comes with you know, being um a professional and

1297
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: I love the game. So when you love the game,

1298
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna do what it takes you to get out

1299
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: there and do what you love. And then a lot

1300
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: of times it won't be pretty you know what I mean.

1301
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: You may be in there just doing run blocking, you

1302
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 1: may be a the garbage man for that week or

1303
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. But when you love what you do,

1304
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: you know, nothing else matters, you know what I mean.

1305
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: So for me, Um, I just had that mindset. And

1306
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: then you know, at the end of the day, I

1307
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: think if you stay positive that way, then the good

1308
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: things to come calm. And then also getting to know Josh,

1309
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: we're your route for on the match? When did you

1310
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: make up golf ball and Josh brought with Brady's uh

1311
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it was funny, you

1312
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Because getting to know Tom, uh

1313
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: he's a very us A. He's kind of a jokester too,

1314
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: So when I saw Josh do it to him, like wow,

1315
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: that's funny he got Tom before Tom got him because

1316
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: he was gonna do something to Josh, you know what

1317
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he was gonna pick up him first. Sou

1318
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: Seeing Josh do that, it was kind of funny, you know,

1319
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 1: just getting no Tom over the last couple of years,

1320
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: knowing how he likes to joke around. Also, Um, you

1321
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: know I was rooting for Josh man. That's my quarterback.

1322
01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, you want to be your

1323
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 1: best friends to quarterback, so I don't think they want right,

1324
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 1: They didn't pull it off, but you know they had

1325
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: some funny moments. Man. It was it was actually a

1326
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: good TV so it was cool. I don't know about

1327
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 1: being chocolate. Yeah I saw that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Ay.

1328
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: As long as Josh I was already, man, that's all

1329
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 1: that mattered. And he does it all the time, so hey,

1330
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: he's good to go. Yesterday, I don't know when did

1331
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: you joshed your route there on that Layton practice? Had No,

1332
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:26,759
Speaker 1: that was the route, it was, that was the concept.

1333
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: I think Josh did a great job of slowing me down.

1334
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 1: Uh he saw I guess he saw the backside saying

1335
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: he pulled me up. Did allowed me to like read

1336
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: the defense when I caught it and cut back. So

1337
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: that was really all him. Um it was that was

1338
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: the route. But the quarterback did a great job of

1339
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: pulling me up. Trying to compare Tom to Josh because

1340
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: m com Rady as Tom Rady. But all quarterbacks, all

1341
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: good quarterbacks, seemed to happen in about them, right. Do

1342
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: you see that? Do you see signs of back being

1343
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: Josh Allen now that we know playful time. Yeah for sure.

1344
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: I saw it last year when they came to Tampa

1345
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: and he got banged up and he came down and

1346
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 1: finish the game. That's all I needed to see. He

1347
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,560
Speaker 1: had an ankle injury looking like and I was like,

1348
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 1: I think we got it, but that guy like pushed

1349
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: through And I was like, Josh Allen's a dog. And

1350
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: then I get hear him read him personally, it's nothing different,

1351
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean when you step on the

1352
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 1: field with him, Uh, Here'll do whatever it takes, you

1353
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And and like it's probably different

1354
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 1: from Tom, but they both firey quarterbacks. And when you

1355
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: see that in your quarterback, how can you not go

1356
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 1: hard for him? So yeah, for sure, I think just

1357
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 1: getting on the same page and like just communicating like, um,

1358
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: how he views certain things, uh, you know, terminology like

1359
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: route route combinations and things like that, and I'm getting

1360
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: aside his head, like what did you see on that

1361
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: on that coverage? Like are you expecting me to break

1362
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 1: out this way? They come down fairly? Um, just talking

1363
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 1: to him and then now like I know, you know

1364
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: what I mean, how he likes certain things ran and

1365
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: then that allows me to play fast, you know what

1366
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: I mean, and just say Josh isn't like something, or

1367
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 1: Josh loves that, so you know this is this is

1368
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 1: something that I need to do. So just just that

1369
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: type of type of care. She has been going really

1370
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 1: good for us. It's really good. Uh. I think we

1371
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: really got a chance to hang out a lot of

1372
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: in Nashville for Tightend University. That was cool. He's from

1373
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: that Dawson from that area, so he's showed me around

1374
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 1: a little bit. We went out to dinner stuff like that. So, um,

1375
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: I think all that builds a lot of great commoderie

1376
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 1: whenever you get a chance to be around your teammates,

1377
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 1: even like here now being around everybody. I've never done

1378
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,799
Speaker 1: this before and never had training camp outside of the facility,

1379
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 1: but for sure, we definitely got a chance to hang

1380
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: out a lot this all seasons. Tangible ways you see

1381
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 1: got showing up on the field now. Yeah, um, you know,

1382
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: just just talking, you know what I mean. Like when

1383
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 1: you hang with someone off the field and then you

1384
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: go over there and you you work hard with him,

1385
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: you guys can just communicate and be boys. You know,

1386
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: you can joke with him you can say whatever, because

1387
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: now y'all built that chemistry off the field, so now

1388
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: y'all can do whatever y'all want on the field, joke around,

1389
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: talk to each other, you know the way boys talk.

1390
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: So I think that type of stuff, um always just

1391
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: goes a long way when your boys and boys is

1392
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: having a great time. Always college pointing out practices and all.

1393
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: I gotta say, it's even harder in the college if

1394
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: they go live a lot more getting the program for

1395
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 1: doing Is it more demanding? More? Friend? College didn't say.

1396
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: I would just say in college there's a lot of

1397
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of young players. They have walk ons,

1398
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 1: You got a lot of freshmen, and a lot of

1399
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: guys are trying to like prove themselves, so they may

1400
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: not know how to practice properly, you know what I mean.

1401
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes these are reps for the offense to get it

1402
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: a look, and you have guys that won't let you

1403
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: get your look when you're in college. But here in

1404
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 1: the pros, guys understand that we're trying to get some worgain,

1405
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 1: We're trying to help each other be better. Nobody's trying

1406
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: to hurt anybody in college. They may not be the

1407
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: case you know, you got guys, I'm diving at your knee.

1408
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 1: So that's probably the biggest thing in college, Like every

1409
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: day is really like they say, a battle, because you

1410
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean, you never know for guys going

1411
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 1: seventy five percent or one hundred, you know what I mean.

1412
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 1: So college you're always you're always banging the whole time. Yeah,

1413
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 1: that's a couple of times that help Teller cam Door

1414
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: see directly, like more tight ends, more tight ends? Do

1415
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: you I know you're still getting to know do so

1416
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: do you love you for that yet or do you

1417
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: kind of wait, what's your approach to I'm all for it,

1418
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: you know, Doris, he knows like he'd come in our

1419
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 1: room or whatever during meetings and he'll sit in there

1420
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 1: for ten minutes or so, and we'll always like we'll

1421
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: say something to him like, hey, we need to make

1422
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: this a tight end, play all three tight ends and

1423
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: he'll just laugh at us. But you know, we all

1424
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 1: we all forgetting on the field. We want tight ends

1425
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: on the field always, and um, we know that's not

1426
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: going to be the case because you have to be versatile,

1427
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 1: but um, we want to be able to be able

1428
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 1: to do everything that the receivers do. That makes our

1429
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: offense better. It makes it hard for teams to adjust.

1430
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: Us get matchups with linebackers and safeties on the field,

1431
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: and UM, you know that's that's match us for us.

1432
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: Taking care of your body now better than early on

1433
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: or out of here A change right here, absolutely. I

1434
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 1: think now for me it's more prehab. I was always

1435
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: in rehab mode. Now I'm pre having so. UM. They

1436
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: do a great job here allowing us to have all

1437
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: the resources we need to take care of our body here,

1438
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: especially at the facilities back in Buffalo. UM. I think

1439
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: that's that was the biggest thing for me and UM

1440
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: and UM free agency when I saw the facilities on

1441
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 1: YouTube and and the things that they allowed us to

1442
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: have at our access. So it's been really helpful to me.

1443
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, uh they really I think, you know,

1444
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 1: Coach McDermott always was saying like they were looking at

1445
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: tight ends back then. Man, back in seventeen, I came out,

1446
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 1: but I didn't make it that far down in the draft.

1447
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: They had the twenty seven pick, I went. I went nineteenth.

1448
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 1: So UM, but I think for sure, like I did,

1449
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: I didn't meet with coach Bores at the Combine. I

1450
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: remember meeting coach Bors, the tight end coach, so you

1451
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: know I met with him, so maybe maybe they were

1452
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: looking at him. So but like I said, I didn't

1453
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: get a chance to make it down death far in

1454
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: the draft, all right. So that's LJ. Howard addressing the

1455
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: media after practice today. And Steve when we had him

1456
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,719
Speaker 1: in studio back in the spring shortly after he signed,

1457
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: he talked about the very thing he was just addressing there.

1458
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: One of the things he was most interested in in

1459
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo and one of the reasons he signed was because

1460
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 1: of all the preventative measures they haven't placed through their

1461
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,879
Speaker 1: sports science, through them medical staff and athletic training department,

1462
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 1: to prevent injuries before they happen. And he's already got

1463
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: the lingo down. They call it prehab, not rehab, and

1464
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 1: that was one of the most compelling reasons. Brandon Being

1465
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 1: told us when he was recruiting him in free agency.

1466
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: He said that in talking to OJ's agent, he said, Hey,

1467
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: OJ saw something online about some of the things you

1468
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: do there with sports science on YouTube. Do you have

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01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 1: any more information you could send us? He's like, sure,

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Speaker 1: sent him more video evidence of the things they do

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01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: around the facility to keep players as healthy as possible,

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01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 1: not only in the off season, but through the duration

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01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 1: of the regular season of the postseason, and he was like,

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01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 1: I am on board with that, especially after the struggles

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01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: he went through early in his career. Yeah, he's two

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01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: years out of an achilles tear and that I think

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01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 1: that has gotten around and I think too, I was

1478
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: having a conversation with somebody before practice about what that

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01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 1: means to players and how things are different now than

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01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: they ever have been. Somewhere along the line, football elevated

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01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: itself on the football side of things, above the kind

1482
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 1: of the meat meat grinder kind of mentality where you

1483
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 1: prove you're tough by doing stuff that's detrimental to your

1484
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 1: healthy Now, somewhere along the line, coaches began listening to

1485
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 1: the science part of the sports science and saying, listen,

1486
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 1: if you rest this guy, if you give this guy

1487
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: rest when we see these data points, and you know,

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01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: gathering the data was also a step through, a breakthrough technologically,

1489
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 1: but you believe the data points and you stay within

1490
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 1: those parameters, and all of a sudden, you're like where

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01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: the Bills were a year ago, healthiest, playing the best

1492
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 1: football at the end of the regular season, ready to

1493
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: go into playoffs on a high note. And they played

1494
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 1: like it. So you know, that's what gives sports science

1495
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: credibility and what more and more and at a deeper level,

1496
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 1: they start to buy in more and more and players

1497
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 1: see it, feel the difference, talk to other players who

1498
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: have been through it and say, yeah, man, it's great.

1499
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,560
Speaker 1: And you get guys like OJ Howard saying, you know what,

1500
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: I want to play for that guy. It's big. And

1501
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: it comes down to decisions like the ones we saw,

1502
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: like we're talking about with Oj Howard and other players

1503
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 1: who make decisions on things other than just a dollar sign. Yeah,

1504
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 1: we will take a break here. When we return from

1505
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: Sirius XM NFL Radio, Pat Kerwin will be joining us

1506
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: here on the show kind of get a national perspective

1507
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 1: not only on the Bills, but the AFC at large

1508
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: from Pat. When we return here on One Bills Live,

1509
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: presented by Collid of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

1510
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,719
Speaker 1: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

1511
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: with you. Please to be joined now by one of

1512
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: the co hosts of the Moving the Chains program on

1513
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 1: Sirius XM NFL Radio. It is one Pat Kerwin joining

1514
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: us and Pat, good to have your first day here

1515
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 1: at Bill's camp. Yeah, I'm impressed. We finally got to

1516
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:00,879
Speaker 1: the big stage. We used to be behind the stadium

1517
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: about we got promoted. Well, we told we'd get you

1518
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: on they moved us. Good to see voice. Yeah. Obviously,

1519
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 1: the news of the day is the penalties that have

1520
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 1: been levied against the Dolphins found guilty of tampering, not

1521
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: found guilty of basically the tanking allegations that were made

1522
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:29,520
Speaker 1: by one Brian Flores. So maybe just your initial reflection

1523
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 1: on the penalties levied. Yeah, well, I you know, it

1524
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,600
Speaker 1: could have been a deal for all I know that

1525
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 1: they said, will take the lesser of two evils and

1526
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 1: the tampering one. I think to prove the tampering you're

1527
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 1: gonna have to probably get a cooperation from Brady and

1528
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: Sean Payton. They did not face any penalty, so you

1529
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 1: might have gotten it. I think they might have had

1530
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: to have it to confirm this. So I was just

1531
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:56,520
Speaker 1: talking to coach Kauer about it, and he was surprised

1532
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 1: that a first round draft pick was involved in the punishment.

1533
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: To go along the money's nothing to the owner and

1534
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 1: being off the committees, he's probably welcomes that. I'll be

1535
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 1: a little sarcastic in that area. But but here's here's

1536
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: what intrigues me the most. I'll turn it back to

1537
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 1: you guys. So yesterday at eight o'clock in the morning,

1538
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: we find out what happens to Deshaun Watson, at least

1539
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 1: for the time being. Then on the day in between

1540
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: it being you know, Revernces issue and when the commissioner

1541
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: has to say something, we drop a bomb on an owner.

1542
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: That tells me that tomorrow Watson's getting a bigger bomb

1543
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 1: than he got. You think, do you think appeal it?

1544
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 1: Rogers got the full power in the side of the

1545
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 1: CBA to do whatever he wants. Yeah, I agree, and

1546
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: I think it's it will be a huge because, no question,

1547
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 1: most of the country and fan built of course, the

1548
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: only way to take the temperatures on social media, which

1549
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: may or may not be too accurate. Um, most people

1550
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 1: think it's too little. Eight games is not enough. Our

1551
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 1: show reflects the opinion of eighteen six games. Six games.

1552
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: And right away they was like, well, that's that's what

1553
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger got for one incident. And then We've had

1554
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,919
Speaker 1: other guys complained, but other women's groups have already organized.

1555
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 1: And I heard a lot of money who was pouring

1556
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 1: into Cleveland to support protesting all season long. So oh,

1557
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 1: wait till he gets to those road venues if he's Yeah,

1558
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: so I would think Roger Tomorrow is gonna twelve games

1559
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 1: something like that. Well that if it's twelve, that would

1560
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 1: be very interesting as far as Bills fans are concerned,

1561
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:28,759
Speaker 1: because the Bills are supposed to host Cleveland in week eleven,

1562
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: and with Alt Watson that game becomes a much different game. Yeah,

1563
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 1: but I don't think I mean, that's that's a side note.

1564
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: I think the length of it, I think people, I mean,

1565
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 1: here's the problem. We knew it wasn't going to be

1566
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: satisfying when when the grand jury wouldn't do anything after

1567
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 1: all the stuff, two grand juries wouldn't bring charge against him.

1568
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: So we knew it was going to be unsatisfying for

1569
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: some people. But the bandwidth between what some fans want

1570
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: and what other fans want is so wide you're never

1571
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 1: gonna make everybody happy. Some you know, Cleveland fans, whatever

1572
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson fan is going, Well, there's no criminal charges,

1573
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, let the guy play, and then there's others

1574
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: to say that guy should never suit up ever again

1575
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: in the history of mankind. So there's that whole bandwidth

1576
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: and everything in between. People are throwing out there as

1577
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 1: being appropriate, and the simple fact of the matter is

1578
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 1: most of us can't get our minds around what that

1579
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: meant with there's sixty different massuses, thirty different people came forward,

1580
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 1: thirty people got paid off by the Texans twenty four

1581
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 1: twenty five of them got paid off by De Shaan himself.

1582
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 1: This is as a two year, three year long pro

1583
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: you know thing that he went through and did all

1584
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:39,959
Speaker 1: of this stuff. How you know what's an appropriate punishment

1585
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: for that? I mean, how do you know? Well, I

1586
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 1: needed to include the word indefinite. Yeah, because between the

1587
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 1: twenty four that he's going to get that last one

1588
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 1: settled and the thirty to your point about what the

1589
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 1: Texans settled with, and then the third is gonna be

1590
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: another opening case again right after this, and so you

1591
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 1: can't guarantee that it's not going to open up again.

1592
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 1: That's exactly an indefinite should have been involved in, because

1593
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:06,719
Speaker 1: I don't think, like he said, there were sixty different

1594
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 1: masseuses that were involved that he used. Now I'm not

1595
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 1: saying he did it all whatever. I thought Robinson's language

1596
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:18,879
Speaker 1: was really strong. Predatory. Yes, absolutely put the word predatory

1597
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: on anything. And you really have a hard time saying

1598
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 1: there there's an appropriate penalty, right. Well, when you're looking

1599
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 1: for upwards of seventy different masseuses over a seventeen month period,

1600
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 1: you can't tell me the guy I didn't have an agenda.

1601
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just And I think Roger Goodell is

1602
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 1: challenged by the National Football League image on this the

1603
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 1: kind of things. Look, when Michael Vick got involved with

1604
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: the dogs, those dog loving owners, they organized all over

1605
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 1: the country, they felt pressure from that. Yeah, yes, so

1606
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 1: I think I think we know what's going to happen here.

1607
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: So um yeah, it makes a lot of sense. And

1608
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 1: I and I wouldn't I wouldn't be against it. I mean,

1609
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 1: if he has And here's the thing, the CBA. The

1610
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:07,560
Speaker 1: CBA was just renegotiated two years ago, and ultimately, no

1611
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 1: matter what legal hurdles have to be cleared by the NFL,

1612
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 1: it ultimately, if they go through that process, it falls

1613
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 1: right back to the same guy that the Players Union

1614
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 1: didn't want to have be judgment, but they signed off

1615
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 1: on it and it's going to be. And but I

1616
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:28,679
Speaker 1: don't I don't say this. The union, despite their despite

1617
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 1: their defensive Deshaun Watson and his rights, nobody could anticipate

1618
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 1: the depth of the predatory nature of this. Yeah, and

1619
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: the union has to defend their players. So they're they're

1620
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: stuck doing it, whether they want to or not. I

1621
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna have a lot of pushback as

1622
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: a union. What are they going to do if he

1623
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: makes the penalty un just us twelve? That seems to

1624
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: be the number in my mind today. If they use twelve,

1625
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 1: the union going to push back, they'll they'll bark and

1626
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: go away. Maybe let's talk a little bills, Pat. I

1627
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 1: know it's only a day here, but that you've been here.

1628
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 1: But they're a popular pick for a lot of people

1629
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: around the country, and we understand why. It's a strong

1630
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: roster top to bottom. Josh Allen's probably a top three

1631
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 1: or four quarterback in the entire league. Ken Dorsey, though,

1632
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 1: is the big question mark because nobody's seen him do

1633
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 1: it before. Is there any other thing that's lingering in

1634
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 1: your mind as it pertains to this roster that makes

1635
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 1: you wonder or say, well, is it gonna look the

1636
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: same offensively as it did last year? Is the defense

1637
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 1: is going to be number one? There any lingering concerns

1638
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: beyond Dorsey having never called plays before, well, a couple

1639
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 1: of things that they did. Really. Brandon Bean is on

1640
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: my mind right away because you fourteen veterans were walked

1641
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 1: out of here and he's basically one by one. As

1642
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 1: I looked at the matchups, he's gone, he's here his replacement.

1643
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: You got to think that they're almost better in a

1644
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 1: couple of days. And so the quality, they're the only

1645
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: team in the league that I know you could say

1646
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: to the starting five offensive linemen, go take a break

1647
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: and you could put five guys on the field that

1648
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 1: have experienced starters. Yeah, no one has that. I was

1649
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,600
Speaker 1: in New England yesterday. They're starting five up front. Is

1650
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 1: pretty nice. There's nothing behind it. Yeah, there's just kids

1651
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 1: that haven't played right. But here bringing in the guys

1652
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 1: that you did you could really, so you're gonna weather

1653
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 1: the storm of injuries. This goes back to when he

1654
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 1: decided we're gonna draft Josh and put him on the field.

1655
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 1: So what did he do first he went and bought

1656
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 1: veteran lineman to put in front of a kid. Well,

1657
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 1: he's done it again, so he doesn't he can weather

1658
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: the storm of injuries. So that part I love. And

1659
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of talent, you're gonna land up

1660
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: cutting guys that pro personnel. Guys are gonna be watching

1661
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 1: every game because they know there's a lot of good

1662
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: bubble players. Yeah right, we could probably that. We went

1663
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 1: through that in the early nine You get you'll have

1664
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: guys that don't make this club, but we'll have really

1665
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 1: nice careers, yeah, somewhere else, And that's you're right, it's

1666
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: gonna be a feeding fringe. And even even getting case Keeno,

1667
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: this is a league where I did a whole long

1668
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: thing about this in May about it's amazing to me

1669
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 1: how many clubs don't spend enough money on the backup quarterback.

1670
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 1: You had Frank Rake, so you had a guy. So

1671
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 1: half of these teams have the guy behind his daughter

1672
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 1: means the season's over. Yeah, right, case Keenum can play

1673
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:21,560
Speaker 1: and he can play well. And Kevin Stefanski and my

1674
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 1: son lived together in college and played together in college,

1675
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: so he Kevin had him when he had the big

1676
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 1: miracle win in Minnesota. I said, what are you trading

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Speaker 1: for keV? You know, you manage if they like to

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Speaker 1: have him in about a twenty four hours. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: instead they're signing Josh Rosen and other guys. Jake kobe

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Speaker 1: Ber said, you know, they're players in their own right,

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Speaker 1: but I think I'd rather have the wiley veteran and

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Speaker 1: me too. So I had a fun conversation with Josh

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Speaker 1: today about Case, you know, and I said, look, Case

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Speaker 1: can provide you maybe some of the things that he's

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Speaker 1: gonna need in this replacement of Brian Day Bowl and

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. And he's already said to me, he

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Speaker 1: sees a lot of things real fast, and he talks

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Speaker 1: to me about con steps that he goes, you know,

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Speaker 1: he just tweaked this, this is how we did it.

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Speaker 1: And he goes, I'm already starting to pick up stuff

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Speaker 1: from him that really helps. Right now, Pat, unfortunately, we're

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Speaker 1: out of time already. We wish we had more with you,

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01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 1: but you thank you for stopping by. And how long

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Speaker 1: are you guys out here? You guys, we're getting out

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01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 1: of here after this show and we're flying to Detroit,

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Speaker 1: Detroit next all right, Flavor of the month. I hope

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Speaker 1: Bill Kawer, this is your look alike, the head coach,

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01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 1: Danny camp from If you look at those two guys,

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Speaker 1: it's the guy. Thank you, glad to have you with us.

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Speaker 1: That's Pat Kerwin Serious x M NFL Radio. We're back

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Speaker 1: to close things up here in a second on one

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Stay tuned. All right, welcome back, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here with you at Bill's training camp. Day

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Speaker 1: eight is in the books and third straight practice in pads.

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01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 1: I think we would anticipate that the next practice will

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Speaker 1: not be in pads, Steve, right after going three consecutive

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Speaker 1: days in pads, So we'll have to see what the

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Speaker 1: rest of the schedule brings going forward. Anybody really shine

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Speaker 1: for you today, In particular Benford, you had the corner

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Speaker 1: that he played. He had a couple of great plays.

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Speaker 1: He's getting some reps and it's it's it's that time

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Speaker 1: of camp when all these young guys were getting a

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01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 1: chance to really look at him and see him take

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Speaker 1: rep after rep. They'll get in for a series or

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01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: a stretch of three plays at a time during team

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01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: and it's interesting to see him play well. And I've

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Speaker 1: said it before. It's easy enough to come in and

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Speaker 1: make it one play in one thing. But when you

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Speaker 1: can do it and kind of hang in there and

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Speaker 1: stack one good play on another good play on another

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Speaker 1: good plays, pretty soon you've had a good week. Then

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Speaker 1: pretty soon you've had a really good camp, and pretty

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Speaker 1: soon you're a surprise roster spot. And that's that's just

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Speaker 1: kind of the way it works. And it's interesting that

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Speaker 1: he only started to show up when the pads went on.

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Speaker 1: It's a big deal, man, it's a big deal. When

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Speaker 1: the real football starts and you start emerging, that's a

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Speaker 1: feather in your cap and a checkmark on the coaches list.

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Speaker 1: That's it for us. Here on a Tuesday, Steve and

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Speaker 1: I'll be back with more training camp coverage on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: We'll see it one