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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell that for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm for it.

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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: be happy. You want to be happy for dake Edo State.

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Speaker 1: Is that woo woom? And then and tie, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to these soberbo boys and girls. My name is Ty

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Speaker 1: hilden Brandt.

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Speaker 3: That fine gentleman over there, the one, the only, still,

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Speaker 3: the incomparable Dan Rubinstein. It snowed there yesterday, hopefully not today, sir,

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Speaker 3: in the heart of midwest Icago, Illinois. It's been raining

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Speaker 3: here for like three straight days. But that's better than snow.

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Speaker 3: How are you holding up?

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Speaker 1: I'm okay, everything is fine. Can I ask you a question? Always,

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Speaker 1: did you ever temp temp? Like out of college in

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Speaker 1: high school? Were you ever like a temp and like

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Speaker 1: never had a temp. Had plenty of odd jobs, but

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Speaker 1: never never has attempts them. I tempt Tie, And it's

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Speaker 1: actually kind of great because you don't have to pretend

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Speaker 1: because you're like, I'm gonna be here for two weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's fine, I'm gonna be here for a month and

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Speaker 1: like file these away whatever. But as we get into

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Speaker 1: springtime in the college football universe and we actively have

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Speaker 3: I was wondering where you were going with this. It's

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Speaker 3: all coming full circle.

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Speaker 1: I tempt for probably five different companies, by the way

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Speaker 1: I tempt. I was a long term temp at DreamWorks

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Speaker 1: It was one of my favorite jobs of all time.

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Speaker 1: I started a blog, I played the hell out of

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Speaker 1: some fantasy baseball. It was great. But spring practice in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, with all sorts of different elements and variables,

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Speaker 1: an incredible steadying force that Okay, we kind of have

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Speaker 3: I think that holds. Today's episode is all about springs seeds.

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Speaker 1: Spring seeds.

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Speaker 3: Yes, spring seeds is a lot new in college football,

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Speaker 3: as most of Arvar ballerhood already knows. We are going

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Speaker 3: If we're talking about all things spring seeds in football,

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Speaker 3: Promise you once we get there, it'll all make sense.

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Speaker 3: The most important thing you can do, though, if you

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Speaker 1: Maybe not there, not quite here it's springing, it's it's

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Speaker 3: There, so it feels to me like they're a really

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Speaker 1: Well, it's sort of a question of, like, can you

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Speaker 1: That kind of yeah, kind of different crop have to

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Speaker 3: curious to see how he grows in that NC State

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Speaker 1: NC State in the last few years, Tony Gibson, the

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Speaker 1: They've had star quality players at different offensive positions. But

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Speaker 1: improved offensive pop. You are buying as many shares of

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Speaker 1: NC State stock as you possibly could right now. I agree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a good segue into some of the

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Speaker 1: It is in a state of flux.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of talent, but we've got a ton

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Brewer is going to be the offensive coordinator for Duke.

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Speaker 3: we could talk about in a bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the average in average out was,

435
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: but certainly losing Walter Nolan and lt Overton hurts. To

436
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: that her other teams in the SEC pretty brutal. It

437
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 1: absolutely hurts.

438
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Speaker 3: But they did well for themselves, and I think, as

439
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 3: you said, Mike Elko is the guy that you bring

440
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Speaker 3: in if you want stability. I think it was the

441
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,239
Speaker 3: right hire for Texas A and M. It may not

442
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 3: have been the most sexy name out there, but stability

443
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 3: truly is the currency right now in twenty twenty four

444
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 3: college football. You are just trying to be stable given

445
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 3: so much turnover with other coaches with rosters with this

446
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: system been there, right, He's been there before. He's been there,

447
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 3: and he was there for an extended time. He know,

448
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 3: like he has his rotation of takeout places, right, There's

449
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Speaker 3: there's a familiarity.

450
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Speaker 1: I don't know what his rotation is, but there is

451
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Speaker 1: that that element of like he's not starting from square one.

452
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Speaker 3: He's not starting from square one, And I think it

453
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Speaker 3: is important emphasize that just because a lot of talent left,

454
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 3: there is still so much talent on hand and is

455
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 3: still flush with talent. I saw some comments somewhere floating

456
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Speaker 3: around on social media. Maybe it was from Lucci over

457
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: at Tech Saggs, but he referenced the fact that there

458
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: are so many questions with this roster, but yet so

459
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Speaker 3: much excitement given the fact that they're flush with talent,

460
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 3: given the fact that Mike Elko does bring a fresh

461
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 3: perspective on how to run things moving forward, that of

462
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 3: course it's going to be a difficult SEC schedule. That's

463
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Speaker 3: just the way it works down south. However, there's just

464
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Speaker 3: a lot of excitement. So if there are any schools

465
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Speaker 3: out there outside of NC state that maybe embody the

466
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Speaker 3: whole theme of this show. I think A and M

467
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: is another one where you can look at and say, yeah,

468
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Speaker 3: there's we're planting a lot of spring seeds here and

469
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Speaker 3: we'll see what materializes come fall.

470
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Speaker 1: You get Riley Leonard week one, you got a little

471
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Speaker 1: narrative action going on.

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Speaker 3: I'm not ready to talk about that yet. I didn't

473
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Speaker 3: even put Notre Dame down on my list. I can't

474
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Speaker 3: go there.

475
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Speaker 1: I'm not mentally ready. By the way, just like quick

476
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Speaker 1: little sidebar here, Riley Leonard has had two surgeries since

477
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Speaker 1: leaving Duke.

478
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Speaker 3: Riley Leonard will not be part of Notre Dame Spring football.

479
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: Not be blare. That's not amazing.

480
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, had I believe the tightrope thing done on the

481
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 3: ankle and now it's a stress fracture. The prognosis is fine,

482
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Speaker 3: he'll be ready, he'll be good to go. But for

483
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,959
Speaker 3: a mobile quarterback, yeah, you know something something to keep

484
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Speaker 3: in the back of your mind.

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Speaker 1: By the way, very quietly I don't have a specific

486
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Speaker 1: expectation in the back of my mind for Texas A

487
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Speaker 1: and M. Have you seen Texas A and M schedule?

488
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Speaker 3: I have, I've got it in front of me.

489
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Speaker 1: It could go in so many different directions, as I

490
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: guess technically everybody's could. But like let's say we've got

491
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Speaker 1: a weird Riley Leonard thing at Notre Dame McNeice. Florida

492
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Speaker 1: on the road will be tough, but like this year's Florida,

493
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: we'll see bowling green Arkansas going through it missoo as

494
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Speaker 1: solid as it gets in terms of what we can expect,

495
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Speaker 1: we should expect them to be very good this year.

496
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Speaker 1: Mississippi State changes, LSU loses a Heisman quarterback and an

497
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator who record breaking offense for LSU. Well, oh,

498
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: near record breaking South Carolina, New Mexico State Auburn, Texas,

499
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: which is incredible that we get that game back. But

500
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Speaker 1: like in previous years we've talked about, like look at

501
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Speaker 1: these five games in a row, you don't really have

502
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Speaker 1: that with a M schedule this year.

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Speaker 3: No, it's a tough schedule, if only because it's an

504
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: SEC schedule, if only because they've got a tough non

505
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: conference game against Notre Dame week one, but.

506
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Speaker 1: Missing Georgia a stiff breeze, some luck. Look Lane Kiffin

507
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: owning Jimbo. That's not a thing this year. No Ole Miss,

508
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: no Tennessee, no Georgia, no Bama. Like, you could do

509
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: a lot worse. No Oklahoma, you could do a lot worse.

510
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Speaker 1: I don't hate this A and M schedule. If right,

511
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: we get healthy Connor Wegman, knock on wood, Colin Klein

512
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: works out at offensive coordinator, they figure out the offensive line.

513
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: You know, we're we're planting a lot of hope right now.

514
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm filing things away right now for

515
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: like year one, Duke Mike Elko Year one text A

516
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Speaker 1: and M. I'm just my voice is going up a register.

517
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Speaker 3: They might be favored week one against Notre Dame.

518
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Speaker 1: I don't know how many surgery is Riley Leonard has

519
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: in him between now and opening day.

520
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 3: I could I could see them being favored. I could

521
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 3: see me taking the points if they're not favored.

522
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Speaker 1: Games and conversation right.

523
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 3: Games of Kyle Field down. Okay, I don't like that matchup,

524
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Speaker 3: but I'm a petrified Notre Dame fan. Can I talk

525
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: about Oklahoma. While we're talking about all things SEC, I.

526
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Speaker 1: Also looked into Oklahoma thrilled to have a discourse TI,

527
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Speaker 1: thank you Yeah.

528
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Speaker 3: Sort of a new thing to be talking about Oklahoma's

529
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 3: offense in this specific context. Today, the Sooners are one

530
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Speaker 3: hundred and eleventh in returning offensive production going into this season.

531
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Speaker 3: I have not done the full deep dive of their

532
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: two deep roster whatever. From what I can gather, at

533
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: least half of the line turns over. We know that

534
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 3: Jackson Arnold is going to get the keys now that

535
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel is gone. I think, to the contrary of

536
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Speaker 3: what we just discussed with A and M. You look

537
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: at Oklahoma's schedule, it is not spaced out that well.

538
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 3: The back half of this schedule is murder Texas for

539
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: the rivalry, They're at Ole Miss, They're at Missoo, They're

540
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: home against Bama, They're at LSU to close out the year.

541
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Speaker 3: That's a hell of a back half of the season. Okay,

542
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: welcome to the SEC one and all.

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Speaker 1: I truly do.

544
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Speaker 3: Not know how I feel about Oklahoma this year. And

545
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Speaker 3: I don't know because the flip side of that offensive

546
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: argument is that their fourth and returning defensive production, and

547
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 3: we know the defense took a bit of a step

548
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: forward last year. Maybe the defense is rounding into form

549
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: just in time to join the SEC. That would be

550
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: I think a huge coup for brand Venables, because that

551
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: has been the question the last two years where he's been.

552
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: And we take a collective second, as Notre Dame in

553
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: Oregon humans to collectively sigh in jealousy over Peyton Bowen.

554
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, very good, very good. But the point of

555
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: this segment on Oklahoma is to look at that offense,

556
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 3: and I think it is easy to look at that

557
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: returning production number being so low and feel a little

558
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 3: bit put off by it, especially going into a new

559
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: conference that we all would agree is harder than where

560
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: they came from. That being said, Oklahoma has also recruited

561
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: very well. Oklahoma is also very excited about Jackson Arnold.

562
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Speaker 3: Oklahoma has a lot of exciting pieces. They were somewhat

563
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: young a year ago. Yeah, so I am very mixed

564
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: on the Sooners going into this new situation with the SEC. However,

565
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 3: I do know from talking to Oklahoma people how excited

566
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: they were to see Jackson Arnold and some of the

567
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 3: stuff he did in limited action A year ago.

568
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: New offensive coordinator as well, board up like promoted Latrelle correct.

569
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Speaker 3: Correct, correct. So I just think there is an interesting

570
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 3: stew of things in Norman totally separate from going into

571
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: the new conference and playing the tough schedule and all that.

572
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: The defense looks like it is rounded into form, and

573
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Speaker 3: I think that is a reason for excitement going into

574
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Speaker 3: the SEC.

575
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: However.

576
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: The offense, however, the offense is a lot new, and

577
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: hopefully springtime can give us some tell as to what

578
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 3: that might look like. These spring seeds come fall are

579
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: going to need to bloom in a pretty big way

580
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: in order for them to go through the back half

581
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: of that schedule and only drop one or two. I mean,

582
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: it's it's shaping up that way. From my early April

583
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: vantage point.

584
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, the big thing with Oklahoma is going to

585
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: be the big, chunky seeds along the offensive line that

586
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: have come in because you lose your essentially your left tackle.

587
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: The future and Caden Green to Miszoo, I believe where

588
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: he's from. I know he looked at Oregon and Missouri,

589
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: and so I know that that left a sour taste

590
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: in a lot of Oklahoma fans' mouth mouths. Mouths saving

591
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: on Bird. Another offensive lineman transferred out, and so it's

592
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: it's a priority to replace and build depth in front

593
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: of Jackson Arnold because that that's the guy, right, Oklahoma's

594
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: entire future, like Brent Venable's job maybe on Jackson Arnold's shoulders.

595
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: Not to be too dramatic, but kind of he's recruited

596
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: receiver well, but in terms of proven dudes at receiver,

597
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: like this is this is the connection time, right, this

598
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: is the time for Jackson Arta to build rapport and

599
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: sort of you know, have that bear fruit come the secs.

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Speaker 1: I'm really not even trying to make these analogies and

601
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: it's just coming naturally. I had a good night's sleep. Tie,

602
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: that's great. That's great. Oklahoma's fascinating. You mentioned the schedule.

603
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: It's offensive pop to me because I think the defense

604
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: is going to continue to take steps forward. They've recruited

605
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 1: very strongly on defense, and so I think you're going

606
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: to see a lot of dudes get a lot of reps.

607
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, to me, you know, the focus was offensive

608
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: line and I believe tight end yep, so that'll be

609
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: utilized even more in this system. That's it for Oklahoma

610
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: for me like, that's that's make or break. What was

611
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: what was the final numbers on in out Oklahoma? I

612
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: think it was a lot more out than in Yeah,

613
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Speaker 1: it was nineteen out twelve in No No. So new names,

614
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: new coordinators, a lot new, a lot news, a lot new.

615
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: Can I can I ask you a question?

616
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Speaker 3: Can we go up to Big ten territory for a second?

617
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Speaker 2: Ah? Right?

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you? We both exist and have roots

619
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Speaker 1: in Big ten territory?

620
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: Can I ask you an Oregon question?

622
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Speaker 1: Sure?

623
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Speaker 3: Oregon brought in Evan Stewart. Yeah, he has not had

624
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 3: stable quarterback play in either of his two seasons at

625
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Speaker 3: A and m NO. And now he is stepping into

626
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Speaker 3: a situation where I I think it's fair to say

627
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: the offense around him is pretty loaded. He'll have one of,

628
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: if not the most experienced quarterbacks in college football throwing

629
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: to him. But there is a lot new otherwise on

630
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Speaker 3: that Oregon offense.

631
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Speaker 2: You know.

632
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Speaker 3: One of the things again that we want to talk

633
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 3: to Michael Felder about is what what is that like

634
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: coming in guys, coming from everywhere, learning a new language,

635
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: trying to congeal as one blossom as one.

636
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Speaker 1: Thank you, BEAUTI fairly go I'm trying a bouquet of excellence.

637
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: You're an Oregon fan.

638
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: When you look at Evan Stewart stepping into this into

639
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 3: this system, what is it that you are expecting from

640
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 3: him that maybe they did not have before?

641
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: What does he do? Because he was one of the.

642
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 3: Big transfer targets and there were rumblings when Jimbo left

643
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: that maybe Evan Stewart would leave as well. He ultimately

644
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 3: does he ends up at Oregon given so much I

645
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 3: guess turnover on offense for the Oregon Ducks. But given

646
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 3: the transfers that they brought in, what is the expectation?

647
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Speaker 3: What is the spring excitement level for you?

648
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: It's pretty up there with how active they were in

649
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: the portal addressing needs. Uh, you know obviously the biggest

650
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: one in replacing bon Nix and getting better in the secondary.

651
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 1: I guess, so the two biggest, uh, the two biggest

652
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: needs for Oregon. The expectation for Evan Stewart is that

653
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: he is being handed a lot on a silver platter

654
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: and he can sort of choose his own adventure, right

655
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: that if he puts in the work. And I know

656
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: text A and M fans, there were you know, whispers

657
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: of like a work ethic thing and not you know,

658
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: not being super enthused about where the offense was and

659
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: was putting in the type of effort that he felt,

660
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: you know, the text A and M offense deserved. I guess.

661
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: So if he comes in there and he's fired up

662
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: and he's locked in, Uh, he's got a very strong

663
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: receivers coach, he has a very strong quarterback. The offensive line,

664
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 1: while somewhat new, should be good. There's a good track

665
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: record and you know, returning the tackles in Josh Connery

666
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: and Johnny Cornelius. Uh. The inside the line has a

667
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: bunch of experience and they addressed it a little bit

668
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: in the portal running back should be in great shape.

669
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: They get, you know, a rotation guy back healthy who

670
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: had a season ending injury last year, and no Whinnington.

671
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: Jordan James looks like he's the new number one guy.

672
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: So we we sort of have a good concept of

673
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: what to we like. We should expect Dylan Gabriel to

674
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: perform as an all conference quarterback because he is currently

675
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: an All conference quarterback. So it's set up really nicely

676
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: for Evan Stewart to come in, especially since Oregon returns

677
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: its starting tight end returns Tes Johnson, who went for

678
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: over a thousand yards last year in the slot. That like,

679
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: he is not going to be seen as like the

680
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: only weapon in this offense. So you can't double him.

681
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: You can't, you know, or at least often if he's on.

682
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: So he has the opportunity to be a twelve hundred

683
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: yard receiver and all conference type receiver in the Big

684
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: Ten in Oregon's first season. So I think there's a

685
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: lot of excitement given his physical ceiling on defense is

686
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: just you know, replacing some big bodies along the defensive line.

687
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: They got deeper in the secondary. There's still somewhat thinmet linebacker.

688
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: But no, I think everybody is expecting a gigantic farm ranch,

689
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: whatever of success that is that is being planted right

690
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 1: now during the spring.

691
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Speaker 3: Let's continue on here. Yeah, I have a few other

692
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 3: schools that I've listed out. We do want to save

693
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 3: time for interview with Michael at the end of this

694
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: I have a big.

695
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: Twelve school, go for it that you've been I think spiritually,

696
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: emotionally and physically involved with these past few years, physically

697
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: involved with continue the horn Frogs of TCU. Okay, I

698
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: don't know about it physically but definitely mentally. So what

699
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: this is. This is now a Josh Hoover team. Chandler

700
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: Morris to North Texas. The best of Josh Hoover was

701
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: really fun.

702
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: Like Josh Hoover, his teammates loved him. I read glowing

703
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 3: reviews of Josh Hoover as a teammate.

704
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's likely going to come down to defense. They

705
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: move on from Joe Gillespie the higher Andy Avlos ken

706
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: Wilson comes in. He was a very good linebackers coach

707
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: at Oregon. Didn't work out for him as a head

708
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: coach in Nevada. So Sunny Dyke's makes some much needed changes,

709
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: especially on defense. Gave up a lot of big stuff

710
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: last year and so the big thing is with TCU

711
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: they hit the portal hard, especially in the secondary and

712
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: Andy Avlos defense is as I'm familiar with it, both

713
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: with his time at Boise State and Oregon like. It's

714
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: built on confusion. It's built on showing different looks and

715
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: doing different things and masking different elements of the defense

716
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 1: to confuse confuse offenses. Don't know if you've peaked behind

717
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: the curtain at TCUs schedule this year there's like it's

718
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: like ten out of twelve weeks. You could make the

719
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: case that like they're facing a quality offense, like I

720
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: know they have I think Baylor and Cincinnati on the schedule,

721
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: but in terms of like quality offense is ahead, Like

722
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: to me, this spring is vital to figure out who

723
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: can actually play for this defense, who can get after

724
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: the quarterback, who can tackle in the open field, who

725
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: can run with receivers, because it just it feels like

726
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: very few weeks off in terms of a team who

727
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: could score thirty seven in any given week. So they're

728
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: fascinating to me. They made a lot of changes that

729
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: the final numbers with TCU twenty transfers, twenty transfer commits

730
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: in with that focus on the secondary. So it's it's

731
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: weird to say sunny Dyke's is fighting for his job

732
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: after going to the National Championship Game two years ago.

733
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: But given the dramatic step back last year, TCU in

734
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: this new look Big twelve should be a perennial contender.

735
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: They shouldn't be winning it every year. They shouldn't be

736
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: in the conference championship game every year. They should be

737
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: in the conversation in early November given their location, given

738
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: their recent track reck of success on both sides of

739
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: the ball, and so a lot of pressure to make

740
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: this a successful fall harvest, and so I think that

741
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Speaker 1: especially starts now on defense.

742
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 3: Can I talk about Nebraska, please, Dylan Roola, Man, Dylan Roola.

743
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 3: If you're an Nebraska fan, if you're a Big Ten fan,

744
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: if you're just a college football fan. There are plenty

745
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 3: of people who I'm sure have been listening to this

746
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 3: ripping their hair out that we didn't mention him sooner.

747
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: But especially in the Big Ten, We've got some of

748
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: these impact freshmen that I think are worth watching. Jeremiah

749
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 3: Smith at Ohio State. Did you see the practice clips

750
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: of him floating around social media?

751
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 2: Oh?

752
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: How was it?

753
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: Dude?

754
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: It's stupid.

755
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 3: He's a true freshman. He looks like he should be

756
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 3: in the NFL. He looks like he should be in

757
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: the NFL. And how built is he?

758
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: Though?

759
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: I feel like he kind of has like Advante Smith body,

760
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: but maybe I'm no. He's like sick three and just

761
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: a dude. Okay, he's just a dude.

762
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: He's going up, he's winning contested balls against defenders. I mean,

763
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: Ohio State's ability for like the last decade to reload

764
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 3: at wide receiver. Yeah, is one of those things that

765
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 3: we've just come to assume like it's, you know, a

766
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: face card showing a face card in blackjack.

767
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: But it really incredible.

768
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: Even Bama couldn't do, hasn't done what Ohio State's done

769
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: at the receiver position. It's been remarkable. So Jeremiah Smith,

770
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 3: if you've seen the clip play left guard, that might

771
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: be more needed. That might be more needed, Jeremiah Smith,

772
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 3: watch for him at Ohio State. There's plenty of reason

773
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 3: be excited about Ohio State. But Delan Royola at Nebraska

774
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: I think takes it to a different degree altogether. He

775
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 3: is per twenty four to seven since they started tracking

776
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 3: these things. The second highest graded recruit Nebraska's ever landed

777
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 3: care to venture a guest going back to two thousand

778
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: and five. Dan here to Venture a guest who is

779
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 3: the highest graded recruit that has ever gone to Nebraska.

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Speaker 1: Going back to two thousand and five. Two thousand and

781
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: five will give the year. I don't know what was

782
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 1: sue Marlon Lucky m Okay, I vaguely remember that name,

783
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: but Dilan Royola is too. Marlon Lucky was running back.

784
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he quite amounted to that recruiting ranking.

785
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: But Dilan Royola now steps in coming at a very

786
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: pivotal time for Matt Ruhle, who needs to find offense.

787
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: Last year they didn't have it. Royola is gonna start.

788
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: I gotta believe that was one of the conditions of

789
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: him flipping to Nebraska from Georgia in the first place.

790
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: He is not going there to ride the pine, right.

791
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: We don't see a whole lot of freshmen step in

792
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: at major programs at quarterback on day one freshman. Yeah,

793
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: we just don't see it.

794
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 3: It's not something that we've grown that accustomed to, especially

795
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: at a situation like this where there is a lot

796
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 3: riding on him. There's a lot of boomer Bus potential

797
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: here with this one Dan, a lot of it. He

798
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 3: seems very talented. Yeah, I've not seen him in the setting.

799
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: We have not seen him behind this offensive line with

800
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: this other skill talent around him. I think there is

801
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: a ton of reason for optimism here and a ton

802
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 3: of reason to be a cynic. And so to say

803
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: that I'm excited as an understatement. To say that I'm

804
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 3: a bit of a cynic is also an understatement. I

805
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: am squarely on the fence with Dylan Riola, and I

806
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: think spring can help us answer that because we'll see.

807
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: Him in spring.

808
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 3: We'll see what he can do on some limited basis

809
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: for the corn Huskers when they play their spring game,

810
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 3: do their spring scrimmage. You can't have this conversation without

811
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 3: mentioning him, because he's sort of like the big new name,

812
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 3: not a transfer, but obviously a high profile freshman who

813
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 3: stands to make a pretty big impact on the offense.

814
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be such a good transfer

815
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: quarterback in two years. I just I say that because

816
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm a snarky piece of garbage, But I don't think

817
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: Nebraska's set up to succeed with him in a way

818
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: that will house his talents appropriately. I think there are

819
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: some parallels with Bonnicks at Auburn, right where like you're

820
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: the chosen one given your family connection. Now, he didn't

821
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: grow up in Nebraska in the way that Bonnicks grew

822
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: up in Alabama.

823
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: But.

824
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: I think that there's just no way he lives up

825
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: to expectations because the expectations are so outside. Like, I

826
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to be able to grow gardening term.

827
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be able to grow appropriately, right,

828
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: that like this sort of thing takes time. And this

829
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: is why the gardening analogy works out really well. You plant,

830
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: you fertilize, you know, you get a bunch of sunshine,

831
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: you get water, and you're patient. Right, you're not growing

832
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: stalks of sunflowers. You're not growing a carnival best in

833
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: show pumpkin that's you know, weighs one hundred and forty

834
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: seven pounds overnight. And the hope with him is that

835
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: we're getting a jack in the beanstalk situation, that we're

836
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: planting magic beans and he is going to ascend to

837
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: the heavens overnight. And that's pretty good. Ty, you know,

838
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. I'm not great at a lot, but

839
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: you're trying. It's an ee for effort. But No, first

840
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: of all, the magic beans bit, Tie, that was killer.

841
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: If I can reflect upon something I said thirty seconds ago, No,

842
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,959
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. I think that there's

843
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: this expectation that there are magic beans in Lincoln and

844
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: based on where the offensive line wasn't last year, or

845
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: where the offense wasn't, where this offensive coaching staff wasn't

846
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: last year. It's just it's very difficult to envision a

847
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: situation in which I think Matt Rule is a very

848
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: good coach, but the track record of his offense is

849
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: not incredible. It's just hard to imagine that the situation

850
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: in Lincoln is one where he can thoughtfully grow and thrive.

851
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: And so I'm not down on the situation without a

852
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: little bit of hope, but also like I feel kind

853
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,479
Speaker 1: of bad for him that, like so much is being

854
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: heaped upon him immediately, and there's only so much that

855
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: he can do as a freshman, with the surrounding talent,

856
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: with the coaching staff, with and I don't know when

857
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: Nebraska's schedule, I don't have it in front of me,

858
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: but like it's fascinating. I genuinely, genuinely, this is not

859
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 1: me being like facetious. I hope it works out because

860
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: it would be very too, it'd be great, But it

861
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: does have that with once again a magic beans.

862
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see, we'll find out soon enough what

863
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 3: he looks like.

864
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: We will.

865
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 3: I don't know what else you have here. We do

866
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 3: have Syracuse to talk about. We promised that we would

867
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: punt that. Well, well, we have like a four part

868
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: Syracuse Preview coming. Do we not four parts Syracuse for our.

869
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,959
Speaker 1: Friends in Western Central, Western New York?

870
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: Any other teams quickly that you want to want to

871
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 3: discuss here?

872
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: I mean, look, everybody, like everybody's fascinating, right, Like USC

873
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: with a new coaching staff is fascinating. What they do

874
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: at quarterback? That's you know, that should be really fun

875
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: Jade Mayava or Miller Moss. No, there's a bunch of teams.

876
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: Texas Tech brought in a bunch of transfers. They're in

877
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: like an interesting position in the Big twelve where they

878
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: could go in any direction at any given moment because

879
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: they are Texas Tech.

880
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: No.

881
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: I think I think we covered some initial spring growth

882
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: crushes pretty well. So then let's talk about Syracuse. Let's

883
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: just get it over with becuz.

884
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: Fran Brown takes over at Syracuse after leaving Georgia. He

885
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 3: was a defensive backs coach. Mm hmm in twenty twenty three.

886
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: I believe last year, twenty four to seven ranked him

887
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 3: as the top recruiter in all of college football. Yeah,

888
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 3: go on YouTube watch his intro presser. You'll want to

889
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 3: run through a wall for him. You can understand why

890
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 3: he's one of the top recruiters, but did some work

891
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 3: in the portal. Right, notably landed Kyle mcor from Ohio State.

892
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: Douce Chestnut came back right from LSU Douce Chestnut. Yeah,

893
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 1: that's right.

894
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: Let me again repeat that the ACC is in a

895
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: very weird state of flux at the moment, totally, and

896
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 3: it is not just with the two big teams, you know,

897
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 3: it's it's most everyone has big questions. Let's just say Stanford, Baby,

898
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 3: Stanford is on the tip of everybody's ACC tongue. Yeah,

899
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 3: QS is always a weird place to play. If fran

900
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: Brown comes in, can increase their talent level and pluckiness.

901
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 3: Don't have a gardening analogy for that one. Prickliness there

902
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: you go. Kind of sure, that's an interesting situation to

903
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 3: say the least. Now, what are we going to get

904
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 3: from Spring? I have no idea.

905
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: Spring.

906
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 3: I think is somewhat notorious, even with new coaching situations,

907
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 3: for being very vanilla. We don't want anybody get hurt.

908
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 3: We don't want to show too much. We just want

909
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 3: to just want to allow you to wet the beak

910
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 3: a little bit. That's what Spring is about. We're not

911
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 3: going to know more about fran Brown until like October.

912
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: But as things stand right now, if you're a Syracuse fan,

913
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: I know we have plenty of Syracuse people who listen.

914
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 3: There's a lot of reason be excited about this fran

915
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 3: Brown higher. It's just watching him try to assemble the pieces.

916
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: There are a lot of new pieces. That hopefully is

917
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: where we'll get some hint of what's going on in

918
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 3: this spring.

919
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean via the portal, it was a little

920
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: bit offensive line, a little bit secondary. Kyle McCord was

921
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: the biggest name, and the biggest name is probably one

922
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: who announced his return, and that's Orondez Gadsden, who's going

923
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: to be, you know, occupying the same space as like

924
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, tight end hybrid type and so a

925
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: really nice starting point for Kyle McCord. I like the

926
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: staff that fran Brown put together. It's what I think

927
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: Jeff Nixon, who's a Penn Stater, I want to say,

928
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: and is another Matt Rule guy. And so the long

929
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: term growth potential gardening term I'm just saying that for you, yeah,

930
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: is that the staff is put together to recruit the

931
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: Northeast and bring in high three stars, low four stars.

932
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: Be it from New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New York, Connecticut to

933
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: build depth, to build to a vision, and that a

934
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: lot of this coaching staff has existing relationships with you know,

935
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: local high school coaches and so yeah, I'm I'm curious

936
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: to see what the actual offensive scheme is. But Syracuse

937
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: is in an interesting position because they get to thoughtfully

938
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: start over after occupying a treadmill space in the acc

939
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: of being bolish. But you know, a rotating cast of

940
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: coordinators and schemes for Syracuse under Dino Babers that hopefully

941
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: there is like a new outlook in Syracuse, a new

942
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: energy in Syracuse. Moving forward to Syracuse play Stanford this year?

943
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: Is that going to be an existing conference matchup between

944
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: the JMA Wireless Dome and Palo Alto. Who does Syracuse

945
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: have this year? Do they have any of either of

946
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: the West Coast teams?

947
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 3: Syracuse this year squares off against Stanford. They play that

948
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 3: one in the JMAK.

949
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: Stanford's traveling to Western New York for a conference game.

950
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: Syracuse is also traveling to UNLV to play a game

951
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 3: in Allegiance State game, so they're traveling out west at

952
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 3: least for that one. They are also traveling out west

953
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: to square off against Cal in the third weekend of November.

954
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so they do go out west. They do go

955
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: out west later in the year, Syracuse Cal and Syracuse

956
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: Stanford this year. What a mahift?

957
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 3: What mat Shift's beautiful?

958
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: This is actually not a bad schedule. Have you looked

959
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: at their schedule.

960
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 3: They've got Ohio, Georgia Tech, Stanford, Holy Cross, UNLV, NC State, Pitt,

961
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech.

962
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: Where's NC State? It's at NC State. Where's Virginia Tech.

963
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: They're at Pitt.

964
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 3: They're home against Virginia Tech, at Boston College, at Cal

965
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 3: home against Yukon. Close out the year at home against Miami.

966
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 3: If they are halfway decent, they're seven and five at

967
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 3: a minimum against this that's not bad.

968
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: If they can figure out that defense.

969
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is ideal for a first year coach.

970
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 1: That's not bad at all. Really, but again it's the ACC.

971
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 3: We have no concept, no concept, no concept, but no Florida.

972
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: So that's we're playing the Seeds.

973
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 3: No Clemson, no Louisville.

974
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: This is fine, This is great, Okay, cool? I love Spring.

975
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: Shall we get to our guest of honor? And with

976
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: that it is my honor my pure joy to welcome

977
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: back to the show. Michael Felder. You you've seen him everywhere,

978
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: You've heard him everywhere. He is one of the original

979
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: college football podcasters. Let's not get it twisted within the bleachers.

980
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: Used to live in h before that is actually from

981
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: North Carolina. Back in North Carolina, in the Charlotte area,

982
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: you should listen to his Hand in the Dirt podcast,

983
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: which beautifully melds college football, football, sports whatever and getting

984
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 1: your hand in literal dirt in your backyard, in your

985
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, raised garden, whatever it is that you

986
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: use to grow things from the soil. Hand in the

987
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: Dirt Podcast once again, Michael Felder, welcome back.

988
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: Hey man, it's always good to be back. Yeah. I

989
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 2: just for the record, I'm not in the Charlotte area.

990
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: I am in chall In Shawe.

991
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: I just listen. I know that there are throngs of fans,

992
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: so I don't want to be so super specific with

993
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: your location because I don't want them showing up.

994
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: They're not going to listen if they want to pull up,

995
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: pull up. But it's all good now. I am. I'm

996
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: excited to be back with you guys. What's up, Tie,

997
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 2: What's up? What's update. Like, I'm excited, Like this is fun,

998
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 2: It's always fun. And we're gonna talk a little football,

999
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a little garding like that's the essence

1000
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: of Hand in the Dirt. It's really a lifestyle podcast.

1001
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: That's true. Okay, So before we started, you mentioned something

1002
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: that I think I think is exceedingly true and something

1003
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: that is going on across the country, and it's that

1004
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: spring football isn't truly spring football anymore for one to

1005
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: three very specific reasons, largely because rosters don't know each other. Yeah,

1006
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: coaches don't know rosters. Rosters don't know coaches. Everybody's wearing

1007
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: name tags, everybody's learning a new language.

1008
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: Right.

1009
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: We all went to college and when we got there,

1010
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 1: they said, okay, so you're going to need like a year,

1011
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: two years of whatever language you want in order to

1012
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: get this degree. And you know, one specific example would

1013
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: be Ohio State. And I tweeted this out sort of

1014
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: as it was happening. It's UCLA's head coach is going

1015
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: to be calling plays for Kansas State's quarterback, who's going

1016
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: to be taking snaps from Alabama's center, handing it off

1017
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: to Ole missus running back and so Ryan Day is

1018
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: now standing at the head of the class and saying,

1019
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: here's how we call things. Here are the names of

1020
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: our plays, here are hand signals, Here's how we adjust things.

1021
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: And everybody's taking notes like they've never been there because

1022
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: they haven't. So what is spring football now? To you?

1023
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 2: It's been It's weird. I remember, like when I was

1024
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 2: working for Bleach Report. I remember going down to South

1025
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 2: Carolina for Jadavian Clowney's last springing, and I remember how

1026
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: much stock people put in spring game attendance. Do you

1027
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: guys remember that?

1028
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: Of course? Yeah, Like it was like, oh.

1029
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: They had fifty thousand fans, but we had seventy thousand

1030
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: fans and they had night. And it's like and now

1031
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know who's gonna play on this team.

1032
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 2: Like if you're like, if you're a Notre Dame guy, like, yeah,

1033
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: sure you want to try to get to that spring

1034
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 2: game to see what Riley Lennard, Right, how much Riley

1035
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: Lennard have you watched the So not a lot of

1036
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 2: folks are checking for duke football.

1037
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so.

1038
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 2: It's just this big mix and mash and so spring football.

1039
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 2: I think there's a couple things. You mentioned three things.

1040
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: So the portal, yes, absolutely, the coaching moves absolutely, and

1041
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: I'm I'm going to go out on a limb based

1042
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: on kind of what we're seeing right now. The women's

1043
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament too, sure, Like if you're a beat reporter,

1044
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: you've got to go there, Like the South Carolina beat

1045
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: reporter didn't have to go to that before and now

1046
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: they've got to be there. Interesting, and if you're the

1047
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 2: NC State beat report, you got to go there. And

1048
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: it's men's and women's, but the women's seems appear apparently

1049
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: it is doing bigger numbers than the men's And so

1050
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 2: I think that that's another element to it where you

1051
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 2: don't like I used to when I was doing exclusively

1052
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: college football, I wasn't doing the NFL Draft, by the way,

1053
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 2: we also got to throw the NFL Draft in there,

1054
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: of course, but I was doing exclusively college football. I

1055
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: used to count on beat reporters to be at spring practice,

1056
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: and I used to read, you know, the Doathan Eagle,

1057
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 2: and I used to read like all these like these

1058
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 2: like local papers to figure out what's going on. And

1059
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: now they've got other responsibilities also, obviously, what we're seeing

1060
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 2: with respected newsrooms. That's another problem where it doesn't have

1061
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 2: the same impact. But it's it's really springball is just

1062
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 2: like it's like you said, like it's a bunch of

1063
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 2: guys that don't know each other that are trying to

1064
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: figure things out. So it's not the same spectacle if

1065
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: you will, of like, I remember what was it Ohio

1066
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 2: State with Raykwan McMillan and like the whole that was

1067
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 2: a huge deal and it's just Urban Meyer and ray

1068
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: Kuan McMillan and I think was it was it Cardill Jones,

1069
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: Like it was a huge deal, and now it's kind

1070
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: of we'll figure it out.

1071
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: It's not just that it's new face is getting to

1072
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: know each other. It's that the very specific calendar with

1073
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: different schools on different academic calendars. Oregon had two or

1074
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: three practices I think before spring break they're on trimesters right, correct,

1075
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: they're on quarters. Yeah, so okay, yeah, So now that

1076
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: the spring quarter has begun, I think there were a

1077
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: couple of bigger transfers who weren't there for winter conditioning,

1078
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: so they weren't there for the first two or three practices.

1079
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: So it's like Jabar Mohammad from Washington and Evan Stewart

1080
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: from Texas, A and M. It's not like they got

1081
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: to know each other in February conditioning. They are arriving

1082
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: yesterday to Eugene, Oregon to start whatever they're doing academically.

1083
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're like graduate, postgraduate, near graduate, whatever,

1084
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: and spring practice all at the same time. So they're

1085
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: like actively moving their stuff to Eugene as they're beginning

1086
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: spring practice.

1087
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: But it's also it's hard, like you guys cover the sport.

1088
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: I cover the sport. It's hard to like, like where

1089
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: is this kid?

1090
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1091
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 2: Where is he? And then you talk about the academic schedule.

1092
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: There's teams that there's a lot of most schools are

1093
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: on this semester schedule. Then you have schools are on trimesters.

1094
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: Then you have the quarter system, and so I don't know,

1095
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: there's a lot of times I don't know when a

1096
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 2: kid can go to a school. And then let's not

1097
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 2: forget after spring, when all of a sudden, it's like

1098
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: I didn't win the quarterback job, I'm going to take off.

1099
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: So it's all it's very interesting, ty, were what were

1100
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: you going to say?

1101
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 3: Well, my question for you was you know, despite my

1102
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 3: chiseled physique, Dan's chiseled physique.

1103
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: Just comically yoked, is how I've been described.

1104
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand why people listening to this, watching this

1105
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 3: might think that we played in sidelinebacker at the collegiate level. Yeah,

1106
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 3: you actually did play at the collegiate level, and so

1107
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 3: my understanding of college football pales in comparison to yours.

1108
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 3: And I just wonder, well, if you listen to Felders stories,

1109
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 3: he sweated out hangovers at the collegiate level on the sideline.

1110
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 3: Still never did that on the sidelines, Dan, Yeah, true.

1111
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1112
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: My question is, can you.

1113
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 3: Walk us through what it is like as a player,

1114
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 3: just in your experience having to learn new languages every

1115
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 3: so often, with new coaches coming in, new systems, new

1116
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 3: new teammates, et cetera. And how maybe it compares to

1117
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 3: what some of the guys are dealing with now, because

1118
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 3: it does seem like it is accelerated to a point

1119
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 3: where it is somewhat dizzying, at least from the outside.

1120
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 3: I can only imagine what it's like on the inside.

1121
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 3: What is that process like and how do you think

1122
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 3: it changes the perspective for some of these new players

1123
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 3: who were just stepping foot on the campus of you know,

1124
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,959
Speaker 3: Notre Dame, Penn State, Ohio State, Alabama for the first time.

1125
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: Dizzy ing, I think might be the best way I've

1126
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 2: heard it termed. Honestly, like that's a perfect word, because

1127
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 2: like I remember, like so I played college football is

1128
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 2: a big exception. I practiced a lot, and that's what

1129
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: I did. I practiced a ton. Yeah, but we my

1130
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 2: freshman year when I got to you and see I

1131
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 2: was a strong safety, they were like I put they

1132
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: put me on scout team and they said, guess what,

1133
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 2: You're going to come in and then you're next year,

1134
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna, hopefully we're going to find a scholarship for you.

1135
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 2: And I've played for Jim Fleming and I played under

1136
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: Jim Fleming was a defensive backs coach and Dave Huckst

1137
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 2: was the defensive coordinator and hucks played this half Halffield

1138
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 2: defense where one half of the defense played one thing,

1139
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 2: the other half played another thing, and we didn't really

1140
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 2: talk to each other. And guess what, we were terrible.

1141
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 2: We were one hundred and seventeenth in the country and

1142
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: it was very bad. And guess and then everyone gets fired.

1143
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: So we have a new coach come in. Marvin Sanders

1144
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: from came in from Nebraska. So I played in Bopolini's defense.

1145
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 2: We had we played with Peso and we played with

1146
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 2: we played. It was a cover two base defense, and

1147
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 2: it was like it was a new language. It was

1148
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: a completely new thing, right. We had to we had

1149
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: to talk in a different way. We had We had Tucson,

1150
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 2: and I was like, what is Tucson? I never heard

1151
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: of Tucson, and so we had to we had I

1152
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 2: had to learn Tucson. Tucson was I think Tucson was.

1153
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 2: Man this I'm old now, But Tucson I think was

1154
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 2: cover six. And they had Arizona that was Cover five.

1155
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,479
Speaker 2: And then we had you know, our classic cover two

1156
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 2: and we did we two, We ran three, We rotated

1157
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 2: to three and spun down. You had to do this.

1158
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 2: We had to kick and mix, which is a new

1159
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 2: thing that we didn't really do when when Flip and

1160
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: hucks were there. So we had to kick and mix

1161
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 2: and we had to you know, did all this stuff.

1162
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,959
Speaker 2: And we had uh flex zone to Y and flex

1163
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 2: zone to X and you have to learn all this stuff.

1164
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 2: And I can't even imagine what it was like for

1165
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: offense because they have so many other things offense has.

1166
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 2: Like when you look at offense and someone I'm a

1167
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 2: pure blood, Okay, I've never played offense after from from

1168
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 2: middle school. In middle school I played tight end. But

1169
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 2: from high school all the way through college, I only

1170
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 2: play defense. Everybody else comes in playing offense. So they understand,

1171
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 2: like you get a number. A lot of times you

1172
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: get a number. The number tells you the drop. The

1173
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 2: number tells you how deep the drop's going to be.

1174
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 2: And then you get a protection. Whether it's going to

1175
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 2: be a slide or it's gonna be man on or

1176
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 2: it's gonna be you know, double team or whatever it is.

1177
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: You get this. But everybody in that huddle. So when

1178
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,439
Speaker 2: we've all seen these instagram reels of quarterbacks of Joe

1179
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,439
Speaker 2: Burrow calling plays or Tom Brady calling plays, and there's

1180
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: like a million things, everyone is listening for their one thing.

1181
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: Everyone is just listening for their one thing. If it's

1182
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 2: like f olt blah blah, this, it's like the the

1183
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 2: the offent of blindman. Don't care about that part. All

1184
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 2: they care about is what protection they're what number and

1185
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 2: what protection that they're doing. And so it's it is,

1186
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: it's a whole new language and you have to speak it.

1187
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 2: And I guess that's why I also get upset when

1188
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 2: people call these guys dumb, because if you it's like

1189
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 2: drinking through a fire hose. And that's what we're dealing with.

1190
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 2: The guys. If you just got the organ, they've already

1191
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 2: had two spring balls. Ro I hope they got you.

1192
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: I hope you have an iPad. I hope you already

1193
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 2: had an iPad to go through and look up every

1194
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 2: single thing that you're gonna have to learn, because they're

1195
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 2: not going to slow it down for you. And if

1196
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 2: they have to slow it down for you, that means

1197
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 2: that you're going to be operating out of a limited package.

1198
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: If you're bringing out of a limited package, that makes

1199
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 2: you less dangerous because that means that everybody else is

1200
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 2: going to figure out he's only in when they're doing this.

1201
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 2: So you've got to be able to digest the whole

1202
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 2: meal of the offense, the whole meal of the defense,

1203
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: because if you can't, if you can't swallow that, if

1204
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 2: you can't digest that, it makes it a lot easier

1205
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 2: for other people because especially listen, we talked about Alabama,

1206
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: we talked about they got analysts their job all day.

1207
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 2: All they're doing is looking for tendencies. Oh, when this

1208
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 2: guy's in, they run, When this guy's in, they pass.

1209
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 2: This guy can't pass block, Okay, So we know that,

1210
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 2: So we're going to make sure we augment what we

1211
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 2: do based on that.

1212
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: So when if you're a fan of whoever, you're a

1213
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: fan of ASU, you're a fan of Iowa, whatever, and

1214
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: you are interested in spring football and you are reading

1215
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: the local beat writer who meet iowas beat writer may

1216
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: not be covering i with football right now because their

1217
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 1: women's basketball team is the show. But whoever it is

1218
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: that you're following and you're reading and you're watching interviews, whatever,

1219
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: what are you looking for? Like, if you're decoding like

1220
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: from spring practice, is it only like, Oh, I'm super

1221
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: pleased with how they're picking up the playbook? Like that

1222
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: seems like if you can get that out of a report,

1223
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: if you can get that out of a coach, if

1224
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: you can get that out of a beat writer or whatever,

1225
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: that seems like beyond the like they're in good shape,

1226
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: beyond their fast, beyond highlight catch whatever that all that

1227
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it matters. It all seems like we're

1228
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: just looking for aptitude here at.

1229
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 2: Cohesion, I would say cohesion I'm looking for. I want

1230
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 2: to see cohesion. I want to see guys on the

1231
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 2: same page. If you're a new quarterback going to a

1232
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 2: new wide receiver, I just want to see them be

1233
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,919
Speaker 2: able to be on the same page. Because there's there's

1234
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 2: a reason guys don't throw at the combine, and it's

1235
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 2: because they want to throw to their own receivers on

1236
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 2: Pro Day. And I want to see Pro day like

1237
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 2: things on the field in spring, and I want to

1238
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 2: see guys fly around like that's and it's a cliche

1239
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 2: to say that, but I want to see guys be fast,

1240
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 2: like just fast is important, like I've always been told,

1241
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 2: if you're gonna make mistakes, make mistakes fast. And so

1242
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 2: that's what I'm looking for.

1243
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: All right, quickly before we let you go, because the

1244
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: theme of this episode surrounding this interview is really planting

1245
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: the seeds for fall harvest. Right yes, what is what

1246
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: is your garden? What does your dirt look like? Right now?

1247
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: What is an ideal We talked about what's ideal spring

1248
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: on the football field? What does your ideal spring look

1249
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: like for you? In terms of backyard growth.

1250
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 2: Oh so I have this. It's not a community garden.

1251
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 2: It's just a three neighbor.

1252
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: Garden, got it.

1253
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 2: I like probably ten yards by twenty five yards, And

1254
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 2: there's gonna there's tomatoes are already growing.

1255
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: What species like tomatoes?

1256
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, A bunch of different ones, okay, steak romas, a

1257
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 2: bunch of different ones like cherries. So yes, we're cherubs.

1258
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of dire's a whole there's you know,

1259
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 2: there's almost twenty yards of just tomatoes, okay, and they're

1260
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 2: gonna obviously they're gonna be going to cross pollenate and

1261
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 2: so who I have no idea what that's gonna look like.

1262
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've get nice little weird tomato children.

1263
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we have that. I have corn. I put

1264
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 2: corn in in my back in my own garden, so

1265
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 2: I have my own also garden. I like to grow corn.

1266
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 2: I also have sunflowers back there, and corn sunflowers, you know,

1267
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 2: obviously you know I don't really eat the I don't

1268
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 2: eat the seeds or anything, but I love having sunflowers.

1269
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 2: Its my kid's favorite flower. We also have irises growing.

1270
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 2: My azellias have already. You know, we're not even to

1271
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: the masters, and the azelos have already bloom.

1272
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: Are you so?

1273
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 2: Are you?

1274
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: Is that purely decorative or you bringing it inside into

1275
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: a vase or something like that.

1276
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: So the I have tulips out front, those I will

1277
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 2: bring in and put in a vase. It's my wife's

1278
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 2: favorite flower. I've got variegated tulips, so the leaves instead

1279
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 2: of just being green, they have like a white split

1280
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 2: and white edges, Okay, which looks pretty cool.

1281
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: Was that intentional?

1282
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely, I bought those. I bought those balls because

1283
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 2: I was like, these look cooler than just a classic tool.

1284
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 2: And then I have I have to actually split my cannas,

1285
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: so I have cannililies. These are this is my favorite, okay.

1286
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:15,439
Speaker 2: And these cannas. These cannons come from my aunt tuty Rip.

1287
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Speaker 2: She sent me and this is probably illegal, but she

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01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 2: sent me a box from Houston, Texas of these CANi

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Speaker 2: lilies that I saw when I was with her, and

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01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 2: I love them so much. These things are gonna probably

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01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 2: grow up. They're gonna grow to be eight feet tall

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01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 2: this year. And my neighbor, my neighbor across the street,

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01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 2: she said she wanted some. So I'm gonna wait till

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01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 2: they sprout, and then I'm gonna split them off and

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01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give her some. But that's how I got

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01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 2: the irises. My neighbors had extra irises. They gave me

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Speaker 2: some irises. Yeah. The candid lily is amazing. They grow

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01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 2: so tall and I've got orange with purple beautiful. It's

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01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 2: my favorite plant in the entire yard.

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Speaker 3: Are we admitting on this podcast to being part and

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01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 3: parcel to the illegal flower trade in.

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Speaker 1: The United States? Is that what I'm going here?

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01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 2: Or it's you know what I I think. If it's

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01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 2: family to family, you're okay.

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01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: I think it's good. Then you're good. That gets under

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01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: the wire, right, great?

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Speaker 2: Tight?

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01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: Do you have any planting plans?

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01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to hear this.

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Speaker 3: Last year, the squirrels replanted my tomato plants for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the thing, felt, what are you doing with pests?

1312
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Speaker 1: What are you doing fertilizing wise to make sure that

1313
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 1: you're really approaching this thoroughly, and what are you doing

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Speaker 1: with pests?

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01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 2: So we have a there's a like a chicken wire

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01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 2: fence around the big garden. My garden. I only really

1317
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 2: go that's the only edible that I grow in my garden,

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01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 2: except out front, I have my last round of college

1319
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 2: are out front, they're about to go to bolt, so

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Speaker 2: I'm not worried about those, okay, And and the pests

1321
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 2: don't really like them, so that's fine. In the back,

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01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 2: I'm only growing corn and the only thing I have

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01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 2: to worry about what the corn is. Deer and deer

1324
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 2: are a problem. I think deer, in my mind are

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Speaker 2: probably a top two pest because squirrel also belongs in there.

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Speaker 1: Yes, of course.

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what, and I know it's going

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01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 2: to happen at some point this year, I'll probably have

1329
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 2: a five year old tomatillo grow mm hmm in my

1330
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 2: garden because a squirrel five years ago decided that it

1331
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 2: didn't like it. But it did take it away from me,

1332
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 2: eat half and then bury the rest and just leave

1333
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 2: it there. And that time of tea is going to

1334
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 2: grow at some point. But deer, I think, are deer

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Speaker 2: number two.

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Speaker 1: If score, how do you deal with squirrels in deer?

1337
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: First round by for deer.

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01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, first round, buy for deer. You can't deal with squirrels.

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01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 1: Squirrels gonna say, I think they've evolved to like they're

1340
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,480
Speaker 1: a natural born assassin.

1341
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're the top athlete in the pest world, and

1342
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:54,759
Speaker 2: deer are number two. Deer eat like they eat roses

1343
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 2: and azalea. So I have I'm to send it to you,

1344
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 2: but I have footage from my like ring cam of

1345
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 2: deer being at my front door and at my back

1346
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 2: door eating roses, just eating them.

1347
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Speaker 1: And there's nothing you can do. There are no sprays,

1348
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: there are no powders. You can't pee all over your yard.

1349
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 2: I've tried everything. I've tried the pea thing, I've tried

1350
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 2: the hair thing, I've tried the cayenne pepper. I've tried everything. Yeah,

1351
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 2: there's nothing you can do.

1352
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 3: A deer got into my neighbor's fence or inside my

1353
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 3: neighbor's fence, an aluminum fence, and absolutely kicked at the smithereens.

1354
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 3: This thing is bent a million ways, and it was

1355
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 3: a big text thread trying to figure out what the

1356
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 3: hell happened because I didn't do it, and I didn't

1357
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 3: see anybody do it, didn't even hear it. But it

1358
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 3: is bent beyond belief, and it's probably because of a deer.

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01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 2: And watching the way that they can move like we have,

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01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 2: so we have young deer too. We have a herd.

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01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: We have a herd of deer. And by I heard

1362
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 2: of deer, I mean we're talking to you anywhere, depending

1363
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: on the day, anywhere from eight to fifteen.

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01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just to do damage.

1365
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 2: And they've got young ones there, and so they play

1366
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 2: in my yard, which my kid loves to watch them play.

1367
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 2: But we can go outside, walk out. I live on

1368
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 2: a raised rdge, so we can walk out of the

1369
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 2: basement and the deer, it's not that they're not afraid,

1370
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 2: they just know you can never get them. And so

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01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 2: we can walk outside and they are just running. They

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01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 2: get that, they get the zoomies. The little ones get

1373
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 2: the zoomies, running back and forth, back and forth, back

1374
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 2: and forth. And then they cross the street, they jump

1375
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 2: a fence, they go to the creek that's back there,

1376
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 2: and they're just and they're just having the time of

1377
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 2: their lives. And so it's just there's nothing I can do.

1378
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: You got to toss some hobb and arrows or something.

1379
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 2: I've tried that. I've tried that. I've tried crushed red pepper,

1380
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,759
Speaker 2: I've tried hajulapenos, I've tried hobby arrows. It doesn't matter.

1381
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: What about a moat?

1382
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 2: A moat, No, they jump over We got a creek

1383
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 2: right here. They jump over that every day. They jump

1384
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 2: over it every day. I watch them jump over it

1385
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 2: every single day over here, and it's just like, what

1386
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 2: are we supposed to do? So yeah, I mean it

1387
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 2: is what it is. The only time I really get

1388
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 2: upset is when they I've got a magnolia tree out

1389
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 2: there that's two years old, and that's the only time

1390
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 2: I don't really take action to go out and make

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01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 2: sure that they're not eating that.

1392
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: What is what is your action?

1393
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 2: I go out there with a knife, it's nothing I

1394
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 2: can do. What am I gonna do? They can't kill

1395
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 2: But like I got, at least I feel safer with knife.

1396
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:28,839
Speaker 1: You're wielding something.

1397
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 2: I have something. I gotta go out like I don't.

1398
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 2: I could take a baseball bat, but like I don't. No,

1399
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 2: the knife feels better because it's like, at least I

1400
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 2: can get us out here.

1401
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: You're nine months away from rigging up this tree with

1402
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 1: like automated air horns.

1403
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 2: I dude, I tried that with the motion detector sprinkler things.

1404
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:48,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1405
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 2: Nothing, they don't care. They don't care. So it's just

1406
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 2: is rough Man.

1407
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: I respect it, Yeah, a certain level. I respect the

1408
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 1: dedication to the cause. All Right, Felder tell everybody where

1409
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: they can find you read you listen to you wat too.

1410
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 2: So check me out on substack. It's Felder dot substack

1411
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 2: dot com. Wearfield College Sports Now is the show that

1412
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 2: we do all season long. Love doing that with those

1413
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 2: guys and hand in the dirt man, like we got

1414
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 2: to get you guys back on hand in the dirt.

1415
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 2: Hand of the dirt is like, it's so fun to do.

1416
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 2: Just a show where, yes, we talk about gardening, we

1417
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: talk about long care, we talk about football. We also

1418
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 2: talk a lot about high school. In high school, like

1419
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 2: the music you listened to in high school, it's just

1420
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 2: it just it's it's it's two dads and another guy

1421
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 2: who's working on becoming a dad, and we're just like

1422
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 2: it's I mean, it's it's right down, it's right down

1423
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 2: the pipe.

1424
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is too with not just the music

1425
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 1: from high school. And I think it was a Seinfeld

1426
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 1: line like from his stand up or like as an adult,

1427
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: you dress like you dressed in your last really good year. Yeah,

1428
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 1: just like stop me in my tracks in the same way,

1429
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 1: like you listen to the music that you listen to

1430
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: in high school, because like that's when your brain is

1431
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 1: forming and traps in all of these like enormous, like

1432
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: life changing memories, and that's why you still listen to

1433
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: music from whatever two thousand.

1434
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but I will say this, I have been

1435
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 2: listened to Soak City. So let's go.

1436
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't know Soak City.

1437
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 2: Let's sew City.

1438
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: If you don't know, you don't know. I guess you can't.

1439
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: I can't wait for any listener to be like, oh

1440
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 2: he listens to Soak City.

1441
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 1: Going to Spotify right now? All right, Felder, thank you

1442
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: very much for your time. Everybody on that note, listen, read,

1443
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: do everything you can to surround yourself with the Felder experience.

1444
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1445
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 3: All right, Dan, there you go. Michael Felder. Find him

1446
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 3: in the bleachers across all social media, hand in the

1447
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 3: Dirt podcast it's Felder dot substack dot com to check

1448
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 3: out more of his written word. Oh yeah, it's a

1449
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 3: good time to have Michael on. We haven't had him

1450
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 3: on in forever.

1451
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 1: Oh he's great. Bleacher Report Stadium. He's been a bunch

1452
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 1: of places played defense back from North Carolina way back

1453
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: when again as I mentioned like one of the original

1454
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: college football the Ogs way back when. Yeah, he was

1455
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: there with the beginning. Do you have planting plants?

1456
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 2: Oh? Man?

1457
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 1: Small? Medium? Large? Can I make flowers? You know, new

1458
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:22,520
Speaker 1: bushes or you know, herbs, vegetables?

1459
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 3: Can I make an emission here in the podcast?

1460
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: Please?

1461
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 3: I hate gardening. I hate it, Okay, I like it

1462
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 3: in principle. I hate actually keeping up getting out there.

1463
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1464
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 3: I hate putting my hand in the dirt.

1465
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: Okay.

1466
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 3: And so I actually just ripped out my tomato plants

1467
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 3: from last year.

1468
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: I just ripped them out.

1469
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 3: And these are tomato plants that had been planted by

1470
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 3: the squirrels because we planted them the year before. We

1471
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 3: didn't have a chance to get out last year and

1472
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 3: buy the tomato plants to kind of start anew. And

1473
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 3: I think the squirrels must have replanted.

1474
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,480
Speaker 1: They squeezed out some seeds. Yeah, they must have replanted

1475
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: them on our behalf. Yeah.

1476
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 3: So now that I'm doing pizza, I will probably grow

1477
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 3: some basil. I will probably grow you know, some other

1478
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 3: herbs that we can use as part of that. I

1479
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 3: cook a lot with rosemary as part of my breakfast

1480
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 3: potato recipe.

1481
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. What about doing some potatoes in the ground,

1482
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: get some redskin potato crop going. The problem is like,

1483
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:32,799
Speaker 1: that's real hand in the dirt stuff, that's real.

1484
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 3: Hand in the dirt. That is a a true root vegetable. Yeah,

1485
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 3: I mean, unless I've got a lot of room, I

1486
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 3: feel like it's a waste of time.

1487
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 1: I feel like you don't have a beat. I've seen

1488
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: your backyard.

1489
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but unless I'm planting the entire backyard with potatoes,

1490
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 3: it's not going to be enough to sustain beyond like

1491
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 3: one morning. What's the point, Oh man, that's the point.

1492
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,759
Speaker 1: I hear you. Potatoes are tough. I would just do herbs.

1493
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: If you're not into it herbs, I'm just doing basil

1494
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 1: again this.

1495
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 3: I think I'll probably do basil, will probably do rosemary,

1496
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 3: and then I think there are a few other things

1497
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 3: that sold life.

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01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: Kate wants to throw it. Would you use potato? This

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01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 1: is your breakfast potato adjacent possibility? What about like jolopanos.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a post to that. I'm not a pizza pepper.

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Speaker 1: Pizza potatoes. You can scramble it into your eggs.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a post to that. I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 1: I think they're a pretty low maintenance grow. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I'll probably do the tomatoes again.

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Speaker 3: I like eating tomatoes in my salads every day, right,

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Speaker 3: I love it it. The problem I have is they

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Speaker 3: all bloom at the same time, and then suddenly it's

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Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna be like late August whenever they bloom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, lachall I early August.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where it's like I'm suddenly gonna have five dozen

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Speaker 3: and I'm not gonna be able to go through them

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Speaker 3: quick enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I usually will head over to the Farmer's Market for

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Speaker 1: my tomato needs. I'll buy like five romas and make

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Speaker 1: some salsa and that's that. I'm into the globe tomatoes.

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Speaker 1: I love them. They're great. Yeah. Yeah, not the glowbase no, no, okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for the Farmer's Market to be back. Do

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Speaker 1: you ever go to one of yours? I do? I

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Speaker 1: do the best? All right, springtime? Springtime is pawn us, Dan,

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Speaker 1: we are very excited. Let's play this again. Just please

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Speaker 1: get spring in the air.

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 1: Is that a flute?

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Speaker 3: Sounds like maybe a flute.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, It's a woodwind for sure.

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Speaker 3: Big thanks to Michael Felder for stopping on by sharing

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Speaker 3: his insight. Big thanks to the Verballer Hood for celebrating

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Speaker 3: spring with us over the past hour or so. Again, Dan,

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Speaker 3: what is the most important thing people can do to

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Speaker 3: support the show?

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01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: Find Tie in public, give him a hug and whisper

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01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 1: something like vaguely creepy in his ear. Outside of that,

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Speaker 1: hang out at any Wegmans you can find in eastern Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: Outside of that, Okay, outside of that, it follow, hit subscribe,

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01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: whatever it takes in your app of choice to make

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Speaker 1: sure that we are conjoined conjoined.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, perfect, perfect, turn a phrase, hit follow, hit subscribe,

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01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 3: Tell a friend, Please help us grow the footprint of

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Speaker 3: the verballer Hood.

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Speaker 1: It's great to be with us.

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Speaker 3: We will be back next week talking more college football.

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01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 3: We have started drawing up plans for what the rest

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Speaker 3: of the month looks like. Spring football is upon us.

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Speaker 3: For that guy over there, my good friend, Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 3: for myself, Ty Hilton Brand, thanks again for downloading, listening,

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01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 3: supporting the Soaliverrable college football podcast.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to You'll soon stay sided peace. Can I

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01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: tell you Ty, I went an hour and however many minutes,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't work in the name Jeremy Bloom. Ah,

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Speaker 1: guess it just struck me as you're doing the outro.

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Speaker 3: Jeremy Bloom was sort of like one of the og

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Speaker 3: nil guys, right.

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Speaker 1: Of course, could have been Olympic skier, could have been one.

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Speaker 3: Of the og nil guys. But he among others like

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01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 3: kind of got the conversation started way back when.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we have Jeremy Bloom say flowers, say flowers?

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Speaker 1: Why am I just thinking of that? Who else? Who else? Hyler?

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Speaker 1: Shuck you shuck corn? You do shuck corn, shuck oysters?

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Speaker 2: That now?

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Speaker 1: Ah man uh sauce gardener. Oh man, I'm pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Wow, this is bad, This is very bad. People are

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Speaker 3: still listening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course