WEBVTT - 2 Round Mock Draft Battle!!! | Ticket to the Draft Podcast | Washington Commanders 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.599 On today's episode of Tickets of the Draft podcast, presented 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:05.920 by Sea Geek, we talked draft strategies and what makes 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:09.000 a good comp We go deep fred Es deep on 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:11.880 the quarterback talk. That's like twenty minutes of conversation. Love 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:14.600 that we got a mock draft draft battle, which we love. 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:17.239 We talked about the first three picks, Fred smoot Zach 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:25.960 Selby in the house. It all starts right out. Welcome 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:28.280 to the Ticket of the Draft podcast. I'm Logan Paulson 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:33.360 here with just a guy, Jason, Jesu, zach A Selby 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:34.839 and Fretz who. 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:35.920 We got a big cast today. 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:38.440 Man, it's really really exciting and just reminder tick too. 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:40.880 A draft is presented by Seakeeek, the official primary ticketing 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:43.400 partner of the Washington Commanders, and Jason. We got a 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:44.560 really fun show today. 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:44.920 Yeah. 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:46.400 This is actually Selby's idea. 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:53.240 Selby, Yeah, yeah, the brain trust, I big idea. 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:55.400 You want to explain what's going on? This is yours. 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:56.480 I don't want to take your thunder. 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:56.840 Yeah. 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.320 You know, I was just thinking, like everyone know these 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.120 pffraft simulators all the time, right, So I was like, 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.080 you know, what what if we all did we all know, 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:07.039 you know drafts, draft guys. We know all these prospects, 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.520 so why don't see who has the best draft? Because 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.760 we all like competition? Right Yeah, now as good as 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:14.920 logan is. I mean, friend, now you know we're going 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.240 to put our differences inside, yes for a little bit. 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.679 Yes, put together baking differences. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:20.360 Yeah, making differences. 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:21.280 It's competition. 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:23.440 But I think I'm going to say this too. I 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.960 think people are sleeping on just the guy Jason over 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:29.000 here at his evaluation because I was I tell you this. 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:30.200 I didn't tell you that story. I will say for 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.759 the podcast. And I was out doing something el coach 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:34.840 in high school football when high school coaches came up 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:36.160 to me and said, Hey, who's just a guy Jason? 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:37.960 He's really smart? Is he like a scout? And I 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:39.640 was like, no, he's the producer. 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:43.600 But obviously takes are being well received somebody. 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:44.880 They might have shout out. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:46.360 To coach bar shout out to coach Barb. 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:48.960 That's just when you put a microphone or a camera 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:53.000 in front of somebody and they speak confidently, people tend 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:56.160 to believe it, right. So that's all I'm trying to do. 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.480 Speak comics all the sense of the world. Yeah. 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:02.000 Yeah, but I would say my evaluations are pretty surface level. 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:03.080 But I appreciate that. 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:04.720 Oh yeah, coach, what's up? 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.600 Yeah? 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:08.040 But yeah. 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.880 So so basically we're drafting the first two rounds for 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:12.519 the Commanders, yes, which. 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:16.320 Is three total pigs, yeah, number two, thirty six forty. Uh, 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:17.959 there's four of us here, but we're gonna do it 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.880 as teams. Fred and Selby and Logan and I and 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:24.840 uh yeah, I think those are pretty dynamic. 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:28.240 Maybe when you need hip you go O is so 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:30.000 you go smooth at Yale. This is what we do 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.120 right now you need him? 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:35.760 Yeah s O s O. 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.760 You said you need to smoot and Selby doesn't A. 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:43.160 No, no, no, it's basically yeah, it's it's speil German 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:45.519 with an O A. 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:50.119 There's with a lot. Uh. 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:50.440 Yeah. 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:52.119 We could have put Fred and Logan on the same team. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.720 We got to keep that competition going. And because Logan 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:56.600 and I have been doing this podcast already together, it 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:57.000 made sense. 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:57.800 Restaurant peered in. 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.240 So you guys are kind of a power house because 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:03.160 Logan's going to do most of the heavy lifting on 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:03.480 this end. 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:03.959 Stop. 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:07.800 But before we begin, before we begin this draft, to 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:09.640 see how the Commanders what we. 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:10.400 Could end up with. 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:14.360 Yeah, I think we should talk about draft strategies because 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:19.080 the point of this exercise is to show how diverse 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:23.120 these picks can be depending on who's making the pick, 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:25.840 what the dynamic is in the room, what your draft 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:29.200 strategy is going in. So let's talk about that for 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.880 you guys. Yeah, what's your draft strategy for today? 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:35.280 Well, I think you got two options. You eat the 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:36.840 best player available type? 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:37.160 Dude? 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:41.280 Are you a field necessity type? Dude? Do we feel spots? 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.000 I think me and Salem be one of those people. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.920 We see holes and we want to feel ectly that's 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:48.680 how you feel. 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.520 Right, Oh? Yeah, I mean you look at this team. 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:52.640 There's a lot of different holes that could fill. Yeah, 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.000 there's also some really dynamic players. So it kind of 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:56.160 works out a little bit where you have the best 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:58.600 player available at the positions of need. Yeah, I think 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:00.360 it really works out because it's like there's a lot 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:01.840 of really good players, especially in the top part of 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:02.360 this draft. 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:03.600 Well, I'm also one to know people. 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.240 When I look at a roster, I ask myself what 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:09.040 room do I want to add youth to because I 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:12.600 can't feel every position with youth. Right, So at the end, 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.760 of the day, I say, who needs a youth infusion? 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:15.520 And I think we. 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.960 Got like four or five spots, especially on offense, they 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:18.640 probably need that. 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:23.479 Yeah, I mean so that when I hear best player available, 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:25.680 I get I like cringe a little bit, you know 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:28.400 what I'm saying, as I just maybe because friend said it, 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:32.680 I don't know. So what I mean by that is like, 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.039 best player available is a really interesting idea because you 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.280 got best player available in terms of fit, and like 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:39.800 you said, we need to fill needs. You should never 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.599 fill a need in the draft. That's just my personal opinion. Right, 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:44.760 free agencies coming up, we should fill the needs there, 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.000 and then we can make sure we get guys that 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.000 again we think are best player available air quotes there 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:53.240 and that fit the team culture, right, because best player 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.240 available for me and my team and dan Quinn's culture 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:57.680 here is going to be different than what it is 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.200 for Dallas, right, and what we can accommodate when within 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:02.200 each and every room. So we're doing this off of 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.440 like talent and film study. But really I think the 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:08.080 secret sauce is the secret magic sauce for these evaluations 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.840 comes in the meeting and like, hey, I've worked with 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.560 player X right. I think he's a great guy. I 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.200 could coach him. I believe in him, and that motivates 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.440 me as a coach to invest more time in him 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:19.880 and make sure I see that development, because I think 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:21.640 that's the other thing. Is as good as some of 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:23.880 these guys are, there's very few guys that are like 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:25.560 plug and play day one talents. 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:25.839 Right. 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.000 It's all a projection. So it's like, what is the 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.320 most favoral projection I would say in terms of best 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:32.280 player available? This is the language I would use, what 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.680 is the best projection to the team based on the 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.880 infrastructure of the environment we have, Because it is it's 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.880 all projections. Outside of like Joe Wall, Marvin Harrison Junior, 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.880 everybody's projecting big time to the NFL level. And I 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.800 think that's what people need to understand about this process 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:48.960 is like, that's why the draft, in my opinion, is 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.800 such a crapshoot, because people forget that it's not a 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.760 one to one, it's like a ten to one. You honestly, 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:56.880 it's just a different football game. The college game is 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.479 the NFL. So our goal here on this side is 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.400 to find what we feel is the best fit from 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.200 a cultural mindset, standpoint and make sure that player is 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.160 insulated and grows within the culture here. 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.600 See, that's why I love having the Shelby's analytics. You know. 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.400 The thing that we do over here is we understand 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.240 there's going to be things that we can't control in 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.039 the draft, and it's gonna be two or three players 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.720 that dry that drop that we don't think that's gonna 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.720 drop that we're gonna say, you know what we might 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:22.279 come past. 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.400 And that's why I'll spent hours put in not a 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.560 big board, but a mini board. Mini people. 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:27.680 How many people on your mini board? 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:29.120 Oh, let's see, so I got that one? 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:29.520 Fifteen? 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:34.039 Yeah? No, okay, yeah, yeah, all right, that's fair enough. 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:34.680 That's fair enough. 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.320 So I have a question about who cares? I have 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:39.640 a question bounced off and bouncing off of that, I'll 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.920 open it up to everybody. So when they when people 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.320 say best player available, right, as a fan, when I 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.760 sit back, the Ravens were always tied to that, Oh, 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.479 they always take the best player available. And to me 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.760 it was like, well, that means it doesn't matter if 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:55.480 they already have five matter, they're taking one, right, But 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.000 they didn't really always do That's how they go back 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.520 and look at how it is carshing is what does 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:02.920 best player available mean? 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:04.560 Does that mean the best. 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.840 Player in I was there for the best player available? 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:10.040 Okay, I was slotted for the mid first round to 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.760 write it top to the ten, and I dropped. 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:14.400 I dropped twenty picks. 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.720 And now a team like Washington that had Dion sanders 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:21.400 Dale Green and Champ Bailey says, no, we're gonna get 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:25.080 the best player available. Hints didn't think he was gonna dropped. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.640 Sometimes they say, all right, I gotta pull a trigger 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.600 on this when I can't, Like like Logan said, Jiff Cuby, 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.200 draft the player of the phill a gap don't mean 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:34.040 he gonna fill a gap. 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:36.440 And I think that's what sometimes. 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.440 Forced people to say, you know what, let me scratch 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:40.160 this out of my board, let me go get this 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:41.800 guy while I got a chance to get him, because 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:43.680 I don't know if I can find this talent anywhere 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:44.480 else in the draft. 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:46.320 Well. I think a really good example is like the 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.720 Kyle Hamilton thing from a couple of years ago. Purfect, 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:50.600 like he's you know what, we were supposed to go 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.400 top ten, potentially to sixteen. But I do think the 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:56.520 interesting thing about that that specific situation is people are like, oh, 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.680 we should have taken Kyle Hamilton. Is I don't know 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:00.840 if he's the best player available for Washington because I'm 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.520 not sure they had a very clear vision of how 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.040 to use them right. You know, he's a guy that 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.480 played post safety in college what was obviously going to 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.400 be more of a box player in the NFL. And 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.240 so we had a guy here already in cam Throll 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.120 that was a box player that were really happy with, right, 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.000 So how did we see that role? And so I 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:16.960 think what Baltimore did a good job of was saying, 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:18.920 this is the best player available, but we have a 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.400 vision for how to use this guy, right. And it's 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.320 I think that's the thing that people forget. It's not 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.320 they they draft good football players that are tough and physical. 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.360 I think that's something people forget about in the evaluation. 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.959 Everyone sees like these high flying one handed interceptions or 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.760 like the beautiful pass set from the right side three. 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.800 They see that stuff, right, but it's really, are you tough? 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.760 Are you motivated to get better? Because those things are awesome? 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:43.720 And then talent, and then do we have as an 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.040 organization a vision for the direction you're going and so 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.199 I think that's when I see Baltimore. I don't think 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:51.360 they're necessarily taking the best player available. I think they're 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.360 taking talented players, but they have a very clear vision 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:56.200 for that player. And you look at teams that draft 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.120 well like I think another great example is the San Francisco. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.600 It's awesome because I Peters this year, right, they drafted 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.200 George Kittle, and I remember talking to guys about George 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.280 and they were saying, oh, I have him as a 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:07.760 full back. I have him, you know, I don't think 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:09.720 he's gonna make it especial teams guy. And I remember 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:11.880 watching his film, like after he got drafted to San 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:13.440 franz I was like, he's gonna be awesome in this 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.800 offense because he does what they do in this offense 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.680 really well. Can run routes, and he's good at like 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.520 shouldering through contact and getting getting open in the seam. 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.560 And it wasn't like he could run every route, but 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:26.480 he was good at that stuff. And I think that's 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.960 where people forget. It's like, what is maybe best player 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.880 available for me and this team and this organization. And 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:33.440 I think that's where it gets a little bit money, 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.840 because you know, people say Oh, well, you reached on 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.160 that guy or this guy fell Maybe that wasn't the 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:39.960 right fit for that specific team. 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:41.640 But if you get who you like, I don't think 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:43.520 you ever reached because I know, but. 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.280 That's what I'm saying. It's like because if you have it, 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:46.640 if you get who you like and you have a 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:48.400 vision for that, that's the thing. If you have a 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.839 vision for that player, right, Zach, Yeah, then you're you're 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:53.199 right in the right money, I think. 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:54.600 I mean, in plus on top of Lley, how many 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.760 times has been the best player available quote unquote been 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.640 drafted by a team who doesn't have the right vision. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:01.760 Of a sudden they become a like a quote unquote 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.480 bus because I really workout and then coaching staffs get overturned. 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:06.640 Stuff like that happens all the time. So that's why 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.199 it's just important. Even though it is a crapshoot. Thwarton 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.000 had come in there with as much information as you 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.959 possibly can to make the right decision for you. 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.120 Sooby, let me ask you another layer to that. Does 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:22.160 position value like a quarterback and what you're saving in 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:25.120 money as a rookie matter to best player available? 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:26.240 Does that tie into that? 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.760 I mean, I think it does, especially whenever you need 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:32.040 a quarterback. That definitely helps out right, because I've always 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.080 heard that if you if you whenever you draft quarterback, 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.960 you have to resetting your franchise five years at least 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:40.959 that's what you want, right, I mean, so financial or financially, yeah, 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.559 for sure. I mean and especially considered how quarterbacks are 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.200 being paid these days. I mean they're getting paid fifty 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:49.240 sixty million dollars against the cab, Like that's that's a 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:53.200 significant amount of investing you're putting in one guy because 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.760 they can they can change the game so much. So yeah, 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.760 like best play available a quarterback, Like you need to 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:00.600 find a guy like that. And luckily Washington is in 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.280 a good position where they either they have two or 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.200 three guys they could easily say this could be a 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.280 franchise guy if we've developed in the right way. 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:10.600 I think now it's it's quarterback, but it's also other 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.640 positions of value. And I think it's you know, PFF 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:14.560 for an analyticsis in general, but I think it's like 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:16.600 you look at quarterback, you look at receiver, you look 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.640 at offensive linemen and don't I don't think it's a coincidence. 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:21.640 Read You've talked about this a bunch off air off 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:24.120 camera like that, there's going to be probably about eight 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.200 to nine offensive linemen in the first round. There's probably 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.320 going to be six or seven receivers in the first round. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.640 And then who are the other guys defensive backs and 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.199 pass rushing rush and those are the guys that, again, 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.760 are the value adds to your team. Like, I know 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.280 there's a lot of people saying that A and M 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:40.600 linebacker might go in the first round, Cooper, but when 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.480 you look at the history of linebacker, if you get 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:43.600 an elite linebacker, it's. 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:44.559 A value add to your roster. 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.679 But if it's a developmental guy like Selby said, right, 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.320 that's five years of developing a guy to get him 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:51.880 to a point where another team can pay him, he'd 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:53.600 be good for that team. Yeah. Right, So it's about 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.800 these these players that can add value immediately each to 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.200 your team. Like there was a reason guards don't go 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.000 in the first round or centers to be lower value, 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.199 right because based on the numbers analytically, they don't support 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:05.160 in increased wins. 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:05.800 I guess is why I. 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.000 Can take a less of tackle and make him a guard. 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.760 Yeah, absolutely, And I think that's that's the thing about that. 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:12.680 What you're talking about position value is like I think 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:14.520 you'll see, you're seeing it more and more each year. 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:18.160 Receivers getting pushed up, quarterbacks obviously every single year, but 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.800 offensive linemen and edge rushers are the guys where there's 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:22.840 a ton of ton of value to those positions. 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.040 And he go, think about it, thirty two players taking 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:26.840 in the first round. I hate to see it, but 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.559 it's such a reality. Fifty percent of these guys might 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.920 not paying out. And I'm sorry, I know everybody think 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.400 that that first thirty two is where the magic happens at. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.440 I think I give all the draft gurrules props for 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:43.240 finding the second round, third round, fourth round, fifth round talents. 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.520 The NFB value really comes into play. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:47.719 And this this when I think you get the meat 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:48.319 of your team. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.760 Most seventy percent of eight of the NFL is none 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.920 drafted seven round and six rounds that make up the roster. 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.200 Because think about this, if you port it at first 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.720 thirty two, you only got showed so long to show 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:00.440 me that you. 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.800 Big big point is guys like John Bates right and 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.320 do anything flashy, But I think rosters need a guy 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:12.640 like John Bates who doesn't do anything exactly. No, absolutely, 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:20.600 you got Cannis Street builders. 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.640 All right, A real quick exercise before we begin. Just 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.200 give me a name. Who is the best player in 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:26.760 the draft. 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:32.960 They're saying a lot, uh you first, Yeah, Marvin Harrison Jr. 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:35.640 Caleb Williams, Caleb Williams. 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:38.640 And so for me, this is this is how I 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:40.280 would value this. And again this is where like a 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.520 big board is different than like a draft board. Obviously, 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.080 on my draft board, Caleb Williams is the best player 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.760 because he's the most value, right, But in terms of projection, 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.080 easiest projection in the NFL, A guy that just you know, 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.600 you look at Marthis Harrison Jr. His release package is excellent, 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.800 his contested catchability is excellent, his ability to run the 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.640 whole routter received. He's got the he's got the blood line. 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:02.040 So we talked about project The projection for him is 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:05.600 like stepping off a curb un failure. Yeah, it's it's 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:06.920 I don't want to say it's not fair, because there 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:08.320 is like I could trip on the curb and fall 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:09.000 in the street. 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:10.920 But as much guaranteed a scene. 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:13.760 So that's why he is he's the he's the best 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:17.040 player because the projections the shortest, right, And obviously Caleb 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.000 Williams is the guy you're going to take first overall 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.400 if you're Chicago or whoever, right, whatever that looks like. 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.680 But that's what I'm saying is guys like that, Guys 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.520 like Joe Walt is another guy. The projection is stepping 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.320 off a curb, right, Whereas a guy like I know 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:33.680 Malik Dagbors is his ceiling is way higher, maybe than even. 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:35.280 You don't feel like it's a true guarantee. 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.160 He's not a guarantee the same way those other two guys. 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:38.960 But I feel like Rome, he is go to the 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.840 thing that makes me not peak. Harrison is the best 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.240 player because I don't see the gamp. 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.160 We'll talk about this too, but so because for me, 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.120 the gap is the speed. I think. I think you're 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.760 I think I agree. Rome is excellent. Roman Dunze the 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.520 receiver from you do right, He's excellent. He's an excellent 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.400 football player. But I see with Harrison, I think he's 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:58.880 gonna run well, I think he's gonna jump well. I 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.280 think physically everything's gonna be there. With Rome, I just 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.000 want to do I want to know he runs a 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:04.760 four to four because right now, if he runs a 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.280 four to five high four five, I'm like. 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:07.680 It's gonna push him out of the top team. 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:10.320 Yeah, so you're like, what is he really because contested, 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.280 all that stuff you're talking about is there. But I 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:13.680 want to see you. I got to see him run 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:15.880 with Harrison, I have no question about it. And so 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:18.000 that's why he's to me the best player in the truck. 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:18.240 Well. 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:22.240 I always say, if they ever compare you to a 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.280 great I'm probably gonna trust you. And all I've heard 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:28.560 with Kayley Williams is he's very Patrick Mahomes. Like, if 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.080 I have a chance to ever draft of Patrick Mahomes, 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.320 I can't grate Nobody hire you. 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.120 That step off into the curve is a lot of 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.760 people feel the same way Williams, like he can turn 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.920 your franchise around in year one. Yeah, he's got straight, 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:41.840 He's got a lot of room to grow. 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:46.600 For sure, He's by five not a perfect product, but 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:48.480 the silly and what. 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:49.360 He could be. 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.960 Example, Houston Texans, a lot of people consider them to 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.240 have the worst roster in the NFL. They drafted Distroud. 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.760 All of a sudden, they're one of the surprise teams 0:15:58.760 --> 0:15:59.280 in the NFL. 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.400 And also draft Willi Anderson is a p Yeah, and 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.880 they'll have to kill the draft rookie do a Rookie 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.680 of the Year, and they tell you how guys can 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:12.600 affect you. We said positional value quarterback, pass rushing to 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:13.120 the heighest. 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:13.400 Yeah. 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:17.280 But again to the Keleb Williams point, like the ceiling 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.280 is high, right, It's like when I'm walking across the 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.160 street and I'm getting in like a lambo. You know 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.040 what I'm saying, Like, it's it's the ceiling. 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.920 Is stay walking across the street if it's very. 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.120 Very high though, you know what I'm saying. But also 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:28.840 like I got to walk through four lanes of traffic 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:29.240 to get there. 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:30.960 I think, you know, the limbo don't help you in 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:31.280 the snow. 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:32.360 Yeah, that is true. 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:33.120 That is true. 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:38.200 The comparisons of Caleb Williams and Patrick Mahomes are scary. 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.120 Why because what if he's not Patrick. 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.520 No, he's Caleb Williams. They saying that he's Patrick Mahome. 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.160 This is what they say it he throws with a 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:51.120 baseball like control of the football. If you see the 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.320 way he flicks his wrists, the way he throws across 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.480 his body, the way he do these things. 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.240 Patrick throws the football like a baseball. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.480 So you're talking about the traits not. 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:06.520 Necessarily, No, no, not that he has these traits. And 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:08.399 that's why when I when I see Drake May and 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.760 I brought up who I think he is, and some 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.600 guys don't agree. I think he has little those guys 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.880 in him, and these are not saying this is defining trait. 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.640 He has some traits that I seen from them. Could 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:22.560 think about this. When the Bills drafted Josh Allen years 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:26.040 ago and his first year, nobody thought Josh Allen was 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:27.520 gonna turn to Josh Allen. 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:28.800 They knew he needed work. 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.119 Now, the thing about it is do you have a 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.320 coaching staff to nurture and bring him to where he 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:34.840 needs to be. 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:35.360 Yeah. 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.120 I think that's interesting that Josh Allen think the same 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:38.840 thing with Kele Williams too. I think that they're both 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:40.920 relevant here and even Jade Daniels to a certain extent 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:45.040 is Josh Allen has ruined quarterback evaluation in my opinion, 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.200 because he was such a projection. He was a trades 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:51.520 guy that projected really well to the NFL, and most 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.120 times those trades guys they don't develop. You know, It's 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.000 like how many guys have big armed him run but 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:59.199 they never lost, don't develop like that, yes, right, you know. 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:03.320 And so these traits, these qualities have made people go, well, 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:05.800 Caleb Williams is gonna he'll develop in three years. But 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:07.560 like if you look at the history of the NFL, 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:08.520 that doesn't always happen. 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:10.840 Oh no, no, no, they a numbers. 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.800 Stay one out of these three quarterbacks are not gonna 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.520 be good, and one of them might be okay, one 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:17.440 of them might be great. 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.399 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And even if Caleb Williams is not 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:24.840 in the homes like Mahomes is an inevitable force, he's alien. 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.680 Even if he's the little short, that's still pretty dang good. 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:30.720 And don't forget a lot of people passed on Pat Mahomes. 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.200 They're just understand that, Yeah, that's. 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:34.440 The Trubisky draft. 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:38.000 Yes it was. So they had been a guy that 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:40.640 had a better grade than Patrick. 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.639 But I think going back to Patrick and watching him, like, 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:45.600 there's a lot of stuff that make you go, I 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:47.280 don't know if that works at this level, you know, 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.120 I don't know if that And I think, like when 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:52.720 you talk to NFL gms, and scouts. One of the 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.639 things they consistently say about Caleb is like, can he 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.960 play in schedule? Can he do anything in schedule? And 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.560 the history of a quarterback who can't do stuff on 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.920 schedule and in rhythm of being successful is very, very low. 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:06.560 Like I would read, they have to teach you to 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.359 throw our own schedule then to try to give you 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:11.320 a trait that you can't you have to be born 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:12.120 with with throwing off. 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:14.760 Yeah, I'm with you, but what But I would push 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.760 back and say, like, so much of offensive football needs 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:19.639 to be on schedule. You're thrown in a tight windows. 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.000 So if my default setting is I pull the ball 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.280 down and try to make a play, like think about 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.080 Russell Wilson, how that offense is always a little bit more. 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:30.600 But Russell or like Zach Wilson, was a guy that 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.040 was off schedule all the time in college. 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:32.240 Right. 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:33.360 And I'm not saying they're. 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:35.639 The same hands coming out of you right now, but. 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.080 I'm just this is this is this is the counter 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.439 to Caleb, right, this is why this is why he's not, 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:43.680 this is why he's not Trevor Lawrence, in my opinion, 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:47.320 is because that feature of his game. Every person you 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:49.320 talk to that comes up. First thing out of their 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.280 mouth is like, he's talented, but can he can he 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:53.840 play on schedule? And so again like the talent is there, 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:55.800 but he is more of a projection than I think 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:59.719 people want to acknowledge, especially after watching this last year. 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:01.760 Yes, and I can say this, I just watched the 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:05.320 Super Bowl and I both guys know, and I give 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.720 brock Purty his props. He's one of the most own 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:09.880 scheduled quarterbacks in the league right now. 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:10.680 He's own schedule. 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:13.199 But to your point, though, he alli a lot of 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.600 those third down plays is off schedule. Yeah, so I'm 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:17.240 not saying you don't need that, but you need both 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:17.520 as well. 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:20.040 That's what I was bringing up is I just watched 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:22.320 his own scheduled guy have a great Super Bowl, but 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:23.960 I watched the off schedule guy. 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.560 Beat him with instinct and game ability. 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.120 And I'm hoping this is the thing that us as 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:33.359 ex football players see this couch don't see. We can 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:35.679 see the stuff that says, you know what, this is 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:38.119 kind of an orthodox but uh, it's. 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:41.600 Gonna gets It's amazing. But again, like it is something 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.480 you worry about because like people who I look at 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:46.679 like Bryce Young for example. 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:47.560 It's a great example. 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:51.840 Like at Alabama, he's this great creative nuance, you know 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:54.960 what I mean, He's got this point guard. I love 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:56.760 that description of him. And then he gets the league 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:58.680 and the windows are a little bit tighter. He's holding 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:01.240 the football little bit longer, gets sacked a whole bunch. 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:04.000 Does Caleb do the same thing? Does he just because 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:06.240 he doesn't see it right now? Does he pull the 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.480 ball down? And do we get sacks? Force fumbles because 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:11.280 he you know, people don't talk about that either. Thirteen 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.160 fumbles last year. Thirteen fumbles last year because he's running 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:16.600 aund unaware where the rush is at. So that's a 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:19.640 lot about Caleb Williams. But that's to me where where 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:21.679 it's like he's not the best player. He's not the 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.240 best player in the draft because it's it's a long 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:27.160 road to get and if the projection hits, yeah, you're 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:27.800 really stoked. 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:29.320 But well, let's do this. 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:32.879 Let's see if Caleb Williams goes number one overall, we 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:34.800 don't even have to talk about him anymore here in 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:35.359 our draft. 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:35.960 So we're going to. 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:41.160 Start the PFF mock Draft simulator. Yere Fred and Selby, 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:45.000 You guys can pick first and then we'll pick. 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:46.320 Oh wow, or you're leting us pick first. 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:47.639 Yeah, we'll let you pick first. 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:55.800 Gave him out, just disappeared. What's really small and glasses? 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.280 Listen small miles. They eat cheese too. 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:04.960 Of course, watch watch the simulator take Drake mag now 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:08.160 took Caleb Williams. Sorry, so Washington's on the clock. Caleb 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:11.040 Williams is off, Fred and Selby talk us through. 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:11.800 What do you guys say? 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:13.600 This was the first thing we really debated. 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:18.040 Obviously, Wait the second would have. 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:20.680 Thought that, yeah, that's either going to be It would 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:23.600 either be Drake May or Jane Daniels. Yeah, I'll admit 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:25.960 I was. I liked a lot of the skill sets 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:29.159 that Jaydon Daniels has. Ye brings up that improvisation that 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:32.000 I bringed up with that brother he did. But we 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:36.440 kind of agreed that we think that Drake May could 0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:37.720 project him to be something better. 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:38.000 Yeah. 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:41.000 Yeah, especially when it comes to a couple of things 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:44.520 cold weather, his height, of his ability to throw across 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:44.960 the middle. 0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:47.000 Gotta throw across the middle wing in the league. 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:49.520 Yes, he has some stuff to clean up, mainly about 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:52.920 his feet and his technique. But I just think when 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:55.840 I look at him and Jade and Daniels for all 0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:58.320 the great things he did, and James Daniels is the 0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:01.240 best deep through in this dref. I just think you 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:04.560 have to have more nuance at the quarterback position, and 0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:07.960 I thought Drake May could bring those nuances and not 0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:10.480 exciting for who is gonna be today he makes it here, 0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:12.440 but who he's going to be in the future. 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:14.280 I think my ceiling. 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:16.359 And I know most people say that Jay and Dane 0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:18.600 Seeley might be a little bit more because he's a faster. 0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:22.119 I just think it's a complete player. I get more 0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:24.000 with Drake May than I do Jay and Dad. 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:27.040 And the film. The film I think is better last 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:28.639 year than it is this year. But it's not like 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:30.720 this year's film was bad, right. 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:32.920 I do want to see I want to see quarterbacks 0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:35.560 go through adversity. I don't want to see just your 0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:37.800 good times. I want to see what happens when you 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.080 have no weapons and when it's just you. 0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:42.520 You talk about exposed to plays with the something Washington needs. 0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:45.960 Third best passer on passes of twenty plus yards, he 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:50.639 had thirty two big time plays, only three turnover plays, 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:54.480 turn ever worthy plays, and you didn't do that well 0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:58.479 under pressure, but I think generally overall he does. He 0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:00.560 does have more consistent play us. On top of that, 0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:02.640 he talked about like, you know, you mentioned off air 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:05.000 that he has a lot of you know, you think 0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:08.240 he's faster most people think. But here's what here's what 0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:09.440 I think. I don't think he's gonna be able to 0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:11.880 do that much in the NFL. Is kind of Brice Young, 0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:13.240 like he's not gonna be able to do the winners 0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:14.600 are hired a lot of stuff. I don't think he's 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:15.720 gonna be able to do a lot of stuff and 0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:18.720 gets more physical players, but he has the pocket ability 0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:21.280 that he can rely on as he can kind of 0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:23.120 add that a wrinkle to his game because his eyes 0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:25.320 are always forward, even when he scrambled around the pocket, 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:28.160 He's always looking to try to make better plays downfield. 0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:30.240 And I think that's something that I think Jye Daniels. 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:32.640 I think he's explosive, think he has a lot of ability. 0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.840 I don't know if he has that ability quite just yet. 0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:38.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely. I totally agree with you now, 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:42.320 and I comfort him. We had a hybrid between Josh 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:45.040 Allen and Justin Herbert. 0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:47.399 That's where the compsole idea man, that's where the compsole just. 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:50.159 Straight caking a cup cake and a blue bear the 0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:50.560 same thing. 0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:53.639 That's where a cop like because like I've heard a 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:55.480 comp of Sam Howe. I've heard people say, oh he's 0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:57.480 he's a bigger Sam Howe, and so does that that 0:24:57.680 --> 0:24:59.600 changes the color. 0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:03.600 Sam don't make but don't make me in the same offense. 0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:06.520 But that's what I mean. But I think when you 0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:09.040 when you go watch him, you're like when I go 0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:10.960 back in my notes and I'm saying, oh, he's not 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.760 very accurate, he's not good against pressure, you know, like 0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.520 there's some mechanics issues, there's some timing issues, and I 0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:18.600 go like, what did I write for Sam how And 0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:20.960 it's like, oh, you know, he's not very good against pressure. 0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:23.120 His accuracy is a little bit, you know, like it's 0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:23.560 the same. 0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:27.200 I mean, that's coaching problems, not plea of problems. 0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:26.960 Is it. 0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:29.719 Because again, we saw some of those same issues here 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:32.359 with Sam this year. So I'm not saying I think 0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:33.800 this is this is gonna sound like I'm hate on 0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:35.000 Drake Man, but you are you know. 0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:35.560 What I'm saying. 0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:38.080 When you know what I'm saying in the comp, the comp, 0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:39.160 the comple mess you up. 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:39.720 Sometimes. 0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:42.040 That's why when I see a comp that's bad or 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.320 off comp, because I think when you say I think, 0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:47.520 I think he's Justin Herbert and a mixture of Josh Allen, 0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:49.000 two of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. 0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:51.800 No, no, no, no, I'm talking traits. I'm not talking about 0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:54.640 I don't think it's arguing a bit. Listen, his arm is. 0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:56.600 Better than you think it is. He's a better athlete, 0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:57.880 so you want him to run. 0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:00.520 You want to see him run in his tight in 0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:02.040 Indianapolis before. 0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:04.040 It's brought. 0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:06.400 I saw a little bit of Jared Goff. I think 0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:08.600 that's I think that's a better coll He can be 0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:11.200 the same thing. He's a better No. 0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:16.240 I like Jared Golf. He's riding a danger field of quarterbacks. 0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.399 They give him no respect. I love Jared Golf. I 0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:21.640 see some different than Drake Man. You know I wasn't 0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:22.520 on Drake Maye. 0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:26.640 Like this is going to sound like this, don't sound 0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:28.760 like I don't like Drake Maybe this is my like, well, actually, 0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:31.760 like I think he's a good college football player. But 0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:35.440 it's not like Drake may is like an easier projection 0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:38.360 based on his twenty twenty three film Than jayde and Daniels. 0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:40.320 You know what I'm saying, And this is a conversation 0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:41.080 that happened the end of. 0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.520 Jared Goff did go number one? If y'all didn't know. 0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:44.160 No, he didn't. 0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.520 But like that, I agree with that. There's some issues 0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:48.880 to Jared Golf's game when he was in college, right, 0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:51.560 but he's got a big arm, and he's got that 0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.480 that kind of statuesque ability and he developed you, he 0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:56.679 developed over his over his time in the NFL. 0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:57.280 Look. 0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:58.560 And I'm going to push back when you I know 0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:02.760 we're on the same team little bit because we've had 0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.800 this conversation off air a lot because you struggle with comps. 0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:07.439 I don't like that comp though, and. 0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:10.200 He don't know comps. 0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.480 The reason the reason you struggle with comps is because 0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:18.399 you sometimes and it's not wrong, but you sometimes say, oh, 0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:21.199 well he's not going to be that person. Well, comps 0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:24.280 are not supposed to be he's going to have the 0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:28.880 success that this No for this standard person who isn't 0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:32.800 watching film gets a general understanding of their body type. 0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:39.199 Say this though his arm made, his arm is not 0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:41.240 as good as either one of the players you just mentioned, 0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:42.760 like that's a fact. 0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.080 No, no, no, no, I'll tell you this about Jay Danny. 0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:47.520 He throws the bis deep ball, but he does not 0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.080 wil across the middles, and he does not the whale 0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:50.720 I's had to know. 0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:52.640 I agree, I agree. I'm not saying that he does. 0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:54.080 But what I'm saying about two spots. 0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:56.239 But what I am saying is that when you make 0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:58.440 a comp of Josh Allen, what's the trait that Josh 0:27:58.480 --> 0:27:59.120 Allen has well. 0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:03.359 Josh Allen came his lead Wolly, inconsistent with everything Wiley, 0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:04.600 and consistent with everything. 0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:07.520 He had a Holitzer for an arm Justin Herbert, one 0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:10.920 of the sickest arms in the NFL. His Drake May's arm, 0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:13.919 while good, is not that good. That's why I like 0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:16.520 the Jared Golf comp a little bit better. It's he's 0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:17.560 got talent. 0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:21.200 So so then the comp is what Fred said, if 0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:24.000 he didn't do as many push ups right Like, It's like. 0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.720 Fred said, we're mixing them together. We got two cupcakes. 0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:32.280 Nuce to it for you to feel good. 0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.359 And we both said he's more athletic than Jered Golf. 0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:36.080 Could you give him? 0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.480 I would say, all right, all right, So now he's 0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:42.040 a running Jared Golf, which I mean a more athletic Jared. 0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:45.680 Logan's happy. 0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.200 But I'm saying, like, that's where a comple lie to you. 0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:50.680 Like if I come into the draft room and I 0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:55.480 say he's he's he's Justin Herbert, I'm like, well, shoot, man, 0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.320 Justin Herbert went top five and that it paints a picture. 0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:00.680 I think it is somewhat an acturate but did not believe. 0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:02.360 But you're not doing that in the draft room. 0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:04.080 Yet they do this, They do do it. 0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:08.200 I understand. I understand their comps are going to be 0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.880 I would say a little more nuanced and deeper than 0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.680 what we're trying to do as the media, just because 0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:18.000 we're not expecting that a just a guy. Jason on 0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:20.200 the other end, has watched all this film just give 0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:20.600 me a name. 0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:20.880 I know. 0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.000 Yeah, it's like two artists looking at a similar picture. 0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:25.520 Be someone could be like, oh, well this one has 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:26.080 more details. 0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:29.000 This is Yeah, you're not wrong. 0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:31.360 I'm not saying I'm trying. 0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:32.720 To paint a picture for the fans too, because I 0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:35.120 think I think people throw that Herbert cop out all 0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:35.480 the time. 0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.360 He wears number ten, he's big. They look very similar. 0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:39.400 I wasn't thinking about. 0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:42.080 But but like, but what I'm saying is like, it's 0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:42.760 it's different. 0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.600 It's not quite the reason not through to Justin Herbert 0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:47.760 out there, because I watched Justin herb would come out 0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:50.760 of college and get picked apart because he was a 0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:54.600 part of a running offense and he was not challenged 0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:57.840 to push the ball down the field. But when he were, 0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.800 when he did throw the ball down, feel it was 0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:02.520 very impressive. 0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:05.080 So I can only take what you give me the show. 0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:08.400 And when he came out, I remember saying it, I like, 0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:12.120 I love Chase. He was like hard not to look 0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.040 at him physically and say I want one of those. 0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:18.960 But I was like, I might take Justin Herbert. I 0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.040 said it many times and people shot me down. He 0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:24.080 shot me down. They were like, he's he's raw. I 0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.240 was like, well, a lot of us make it here, Wrang. 0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:28.600 That don't mean I can't get to where you want 0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:30.520 me to get to. And that's what I'm saying about 0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:35.520 Drake May. Yes, he is flawed. Every every player in 0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:39.600 this draft besides Marvin Harrison's drawed it flawed in some 0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:40.120 kind of way. 0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:41.760 I agree. I think that's that's good. 0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:45.040 Well, speaking of Marvin Harrison, I'm not saying we're gonna 0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.080 drift at number two. Now, that's we're on the clock. 0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:50.160 I've been on the call like seven receivers over there. 0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:53.040 But for the for the guys that said they're taking 0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:56.160 the best player available, they passed over Marvin Harrison Junior 0:30:56.600 --> 0:31:00.200 left them for us. So if we're Washington at number too, 0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:02.200 are we taking Marvin Rrison Junior? 0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:03.640 Or do we have to take a quarterback? 0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:05.560 See, this is this is where I think it gets 0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:07.800 a little bit weird. This is where best player available 0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.480 I think is a little bit of a lie because like, yes, 0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.640 he's the best player available, but like in terms of us, yeah, 0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:15.480 this is the best player for us? Yes, right, I 0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.080 think that's the question is like probably not for the. 0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:19.520 Washington It's like marriage. 0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:24.240 Ansome guy in the world. Don't mean you the best mate. 0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.520 That's a great point. You've experienced that. 0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.600 Yes, I I'm hope for one, but I'm not a quitter. 0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:30.880 I'd be up and. 0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:31.400 Nixt year. 0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:36.840 Number two. 0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:37.520 I like that shirt. 0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:39.320 By the way, Thank you so rich. 0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:41.800 So what do you think, Logan, I'm thinking we have 0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:42.720 to take Daniels here. 0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:43.959 I think so too. 0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:46.960 And I like Daniels, and again like I like Drake May, 0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:49.360 I have my reservations about him. I have my reservations 0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:51.200 about Jane Daniels. I think the thing I come back 0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:54.440 to is I think the lottery ticket it's got a 0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:56.520 bigger payout for Jayde and Daniels. 0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:59.000 And I think that's the thing I lower floor, higher feeling. 0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:00.840 Yes, I think that's a good think about it. Like 0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:03.280 with Jane Daniels, like the running a bill. So when 0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:05.240 you watch Jane Daniels, he's very accurate. 0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:05.800 He can. 0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:07.480 I think he can make all the throws he's throwing. 0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:11.560 The two absolute dogs like Sleep Davers is a dog 0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.880 first round both first round Ryan Thomas, first round receiver. 0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:15.640 He's awesome. 0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:18.440 SI think he I think he can have a high 0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.320 sealing mileigue neighbors in league. 0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:22.960 Both those guys are super impressive. But the deep ball 0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.360 accuracy is great. The tight win he threw a lot 0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:27.160 in the tight windows, which I respect. I like to 0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:30.200 see quarterbacks not turning down tight window stuff in the CC. 0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.240 In the SEC. You know, he played great against Alabama, 0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:36.280 great against Florida when his team needed him to make plays, 0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:38.960 like against Missouri they were down twenty eight to three, 0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:40.959 and he came back and they ended up winning that game, 0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.160 and he just carried them through that process and I 0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:44.920 and again he won the Heisman this year. He's the 0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.680 best player in college football. And there's things about his 0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:49.560 game I don't like. So he turned stuff down in 0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:51.680 favor of scrambling, which he won't be able to do 0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:53.560 in the NFL. We gotta get We got to learn 0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:54.880 that through, you know what I'm saying. Just like there's 0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:56.640 some stuff with Drake May. But I just think that 0:32:56.840 --> 0:33:01.040 lottery ticket is so high. It's like the payout could 0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:03.040 be huge. Because I think I see a lot of 0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:05.040 a lot of Lamar in him, and I think I 0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:06.000 think he's got a better. 0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:10.000 But see think about a minute. Lamar but a man 0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.280 that don't like cops. He just gained the worst compot. 0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:13.840 But think about it, but think about how that comp 0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:16.320 just biases you, right, because he's not Lamar. Because he's 0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:18.040 more of a linear runner than Lamar. I think he's 0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:19.160 a better scrambler. 0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:20.160 He don't got the wiggle. 0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:20.840 Yeah, he doesn't have. 0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:22.800 The wiggle that Lamar does. Right, But I think he's 0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:25.920 coming out of college. I think he's a better natural 0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:29.240 passer from the jump. He's in a simpler offense because 0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:32.040 Lamar ran this kind of a pro style, you know, 0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:34.280 and so it's a little bit different. His arm town's 0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:35.760 a little bit better, his mechanics are a little bit 0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:38.680 more consistent. You talk about adversity, Fred he started his 0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.280 own estate, didn't look very good, built his way up 0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.400 into this player now, right, So I do think there's 0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:45.120 a lot of stuff. 0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.360 Had some pro coaching at Arizona State too. 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.120 Also, yeah, that's a great point. And so I think 0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:51.120 there's a lot to like about him. And I think 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:52.920 I just come back to like, if I were to 0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:56.160 take Drake May be very Drake May, I'd be very happy. 0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.160 But I also I come back to like, I think 0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:02.120 I think he could be special, Like. 0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:05.040 I hate Joe cum special, I hate Joe cup Well. 0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:07.480 When I think of Lamar, I think of his size, 0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.799 which yes, yes, kind of. 0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:12.279 Like how he's built. 0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:15.560 But something so the other comp that people say is 0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:17.560 and I think this has this gives a negative connotation 0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:19.960 r G three And I don't think he's that guy 0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:21.560 because I think he's I think. 0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.239 He's an act like R. G. Wooden, who did boy 0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:25.160 coming out of college? 0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:28.239 Like maybe like like Cunningham. Maybe is maybe a better 0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:31.879 comp for how he runs like he's around. Yeah, he's 0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:33.879 got a big arm, but not a huge like maybe 0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:37.520 that's a better comp. But but I think like there 0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:40.640 is a is a more instinctive runner, a more natural 0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.879 running or Roberts. This track guy very linear. I think 0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:44.960 he's Jane Danis has a better feel. Also, I think 0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:47.440 he's he was in a more diverse offense than Robert. 0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.120 So I think it's like Robert if he I don't 0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:50.360 even know. 0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:51.279 I hate to say it. 0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:54.040 I feel like I feel like we dated this person 0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.959 before in the Draff. I feel like we dated this person. 0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:58.320 You know, I told you. I feel like he was 0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:00.719 r G four now all to do that feel it? 0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:07.160 His real name to me is Robert Campbell, half Robert Griffin, 0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.160 third half Jason. 0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:11.440 That bias is the that comp biases you, I think, 0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:12.360 and I don't know if it no. 0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:16.400 I think Jason Campbell won national championship. God like we 0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:19.839 ruined him with like six coaches here, we ruined him. 0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:24.400 But what I'm saying is delivery size. Jason had some 0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:28.080 size on him. I think Jason size is similar to his. 0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:30.359 It was his six four, two hundred pounds. 0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:32.120 It's Jason, that's Jason Campbell. 0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:33.680 So you mentioned the height with Drake May, that the 0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:37.279 same height. You know obviously Drake Mays to four like 0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.160 mis sticker, like we'll put together. But and you know 0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.000 Jadon Daniels takes a lot of shots in the running game. 0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:43.960 I'm with you how to slide, But I think I 0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:45.640 just I just look at him. I just and again, 0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:47.759 maybe you're getting mes ris b because like you said, 0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:50.800 this sack twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three. I 0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.279 think Drake May is a better football player. But if 0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.040 you just look at twenty twenty three, it's not even close. 0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:57.360 There was such a big gap in there for but 0:35:57.480 --> 0:35:59.279 even Eve when he before he transferred l as either 0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:01.880 he's a big gap there and the exactly some of 0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:03.879 the same arguments you brought up why you picked Jane 0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.440 Dan's was that army that I brought to Fred. Now, now, 0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:08.080 the biggest thing that I have, the biggest problem I 0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:10.480 have with him is that he seems like he just 0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:12.719 he sees his read and if it's not there, Yeah, 0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:13.960 it freaks out. I think that's true. 0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.040 I think it freaks out as probably because I always 0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:18.160 feel like he's pretty composed, you know, like he's not 0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:20.759 like you don't get happy feet. He's very deliberate about 0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:23.520 when he scrambled. He's very very purposeful about doing it. 0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:25.839 I guess more ager say is he's he's looking to run. 0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:28.640 I think that's fine. I think it's like if it's 0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:30.560 not there, if I don't love it, this is what 0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:32.399 I see from him. If I don't love the read, 0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.480 if I don't love the progression, I'm gonna run and 0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:38.360 against every team in college football like he murdered, like 0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:41.160 against Alabama, one of the fastest teams, one of the best, 0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:44.319 most NFL comp teams. He looked like the best player, 0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:46.080 like by far the best playing the field. Obviously, he 0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.359 leaves that gave early with a concussion because he gets 0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:50.239 hit not on a scramble but like a late kind 0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:50.840 of a dirty hit. 0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:53.560 But I don't I don't hate that. As if you're 0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:55.560 a young quarterback trying to learn the game and everything, 0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:58.239 but eventually you're always gonna have to learn how to 0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:00.120 win from the pocket. That's what Grake may have think 0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:01.279 has an advantage over James. 0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:02.800 I agree, and I think I think he sees in 0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:04.239 the middle to feel better but also like in this 0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.160 Cliff Kingsbury offense, like one of this. 0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:07.320 Is gonna be big windows. 0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.640 It's gonna be big windows. But also like, one of 0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:12.120 the things that I think adds a lot of value 0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:14.520 to this offense is a quarterback that can run well. 0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:17.160 And I think Drake May can run, but I think 0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:20.399 Daniels is just a more dynamical jail. 0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:22.640 Yeah. Well, he's more of a whipping to. 0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:23.520 You, more of a weapon. 0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:27.040 And again I don't like, I don't if they draft 0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:28.920 to Drake May, I'm gonna be happy. But I think 0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:30.719 part of me is like I think there's a there's 0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:33.399 a huge payout if it all goes the way it's 0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:33.800 supposed to. 0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.879 Don't get me wrong, I think we win no matter 0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:38.399 what who you pick. 0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:40.400 And and like you said this already, Fred, it comes 0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:42.080 down of the coaching and the system they're coming to. 0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:44.680 But I do think I just think you. I think 0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:47.000 the ceiling is so much higher with Jane Daniels. 0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:48.560 Like I said, I don't think you lose with any 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:50.680 of these dudes. And I don't want nobody to think 0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:52.919 I'm being negative when I say RG three, because let's 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.400 be honest, he one has me just like Jane Davis 0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:57.560 came out just like Jane Daniels, and. 0:37:57.840 --> 0:37:59.920 Let's be honest, he had a hell of the rookie year. 0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.480 And if he just take that coaching that that he 0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:05.440 got around him, I believe he keeps going like leg 0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:08.080 just be hones. The word thing that got in front 0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.440 of r G three was RG three. But the athlete 0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:14.160 himself he could play the game of football. I'm saying, 0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:17.520 Jane Daniels can play the game of football. We don't 0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:18.719 lose taking either of these guys. 0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:20.600 And I think that's a great point. Like the Commins 0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:22.480 coming up here, we haven't we don't have that information yet, 0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:24.359 But how do they interview, you know? And like there's 0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.000 there's always stuff that comes out where it's like like 0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.760 I'm Cliff, I'm sitting in the meeting room with Drake May. 0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:31.720 And he's quiet or something and don't say anything. 0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:33.279 I don't like how he answers the question, but I 0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.759 hit it off yea with Jane Daniels, like I want 0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:39.400 the guy that that OC that OC likes, you know, 0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:41.160 And again it might be the other way. It could 0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:44.000 be Drake May is the guy that oh everyone loves him, right, 0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:46.200 But I think like that's going to be a huge 0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:49.200 data point in terms of getting this staff invested in 0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:51.080 the guy and then making the decision for I. 0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:54.600 Think they're small because I think no position matters more 0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:56.600 about the human himself. 0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:58.760 Than the quarter A great point because he just touches 0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:02.000 so much imprint of the team and we are actually 0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:02.880 are in print of him. 0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:04.560 That's a That's what I love that. 0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.000 I think that's great insight because like think about how 0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:09.480 many times, like like Kirk Cousins like you when he 0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:11.360 when the each I draft here over RG three, Like 0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:14.440 the leadership that he has compared to our you know, 0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:14.759 like the. 0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:19.760 No the team gravitas. Do you bring grown men together 0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.160 and make them want to play for you? We just 0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:24.879 saw Patrick Mahons do that. Let's be honest. The best 0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:28.000 roster on that field was the forty nine ers, the 0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:30.960 best team with the Kansas City Chiefs. 0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:33.120 And being vocal and being able to relate to players 0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:35.480 is so different. They can make it in their lot 0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:37.719 in the lock, but they're not always the same, right 0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:39.160 because you see a lot of quarterbacks who are not 0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:41.080 exactly the most outspoken guys, but they can hang up 0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:42.800 at the offensive line and they can relate to the 0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:43.319 running backs. 0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:44.160 Bacon made the field. 0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:47.720 People say what they want to his teammates play for Bacon, 0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:50.480 Bacon the quarterback that go out and I'm gonna have 0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:52.960 a beer with you. You know, Tom ain't putting them 0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:54.920 cards in his body, but you know, when you get 0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:55.880 the practice and you're. 0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:58.399 Gonna get on that field, Tom demands your best. 0:39:58.440 --> 0:39:59.720 What's gottay avacadra, tequila? 0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.839 Heineke had that Jason, they all loved playing with him. 0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:11.160 He just didn't have the talent. Yeah, but guys elevated team. Yeah, absolutely, 0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:12.840 Uh yeah, I agree. 0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:16.440 As a Jag fan of this team, I'd be happy 0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:19.520 with either one of these quarterbacks. I hear exactly what 0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:22.840 you're saying with the lottery ticket of Daniels, and that 0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.719 really excites me. Also scares me because I've seen that 0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:29.720 with RG three and like those type of players. 0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:32.439 But his and sorry to Cutch, his film in twenty 0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:35.840 twenty three. I can't stress this enough. Phenomenal, It's amazing. 0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:39.759 He I heard a stat I'll have to stack check 0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:42.200 this at some point, but I heard that in his 0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:46.080 last year he had more touchdowns than Daniel Jones had 0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:47.080 in his whole college career. 0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.560 Yeah, like he was, And Daniel Jones went in the 0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:50.359 in the first round. 0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:51.000 He was like that. 0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:52.480 And I think that's the thing that I get caught 0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:54.319 up in because I haven't watched any twenty twenty two 0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:55.920 of him. I've just watched twenty twenty three. 0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:56.640 Yeah, he is. 0:40:57.600 --> 0:40:59.279 I don't want to say magical, but that's the kind 0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.080 of player you're talking about it and it's so easy 0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:03.280 to get caught so alluring. 0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:06.719 Yes, but guess what, Every draft has a weasel in it. 0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:10.120 Every year we watch this weasel go to the combine 0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:12.759 and dominate and run up the draft. And it could 0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.880 be anybody from Michael Pennix, that could be a Bowl. 0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:20.560 Knicks, that could be like we watched somebody stocks explode. 0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:22.919 JJ McCarthy, who. 0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:24.719 I don't think. 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:27.400 Play this. 0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:32.040 He might he might be there in our next peck. 0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.400 But what I'm saying is he's he might be the weasel. 0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:35.759 It's a weasel in the draft. 0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:38.000 So let's let's let's move on here. 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:41.080 We spent a lot of time on that picks. It's 0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:41.880 the most important. 0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:44.919 It's going to define this franchise for the next several years, 0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:46.439 So very important pick. 0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:48.399 Only did one round. 0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:50.520 There no where we stand all right, we'll do it again, 0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:53.360 don't all right, so we're starting over the podcast then. 0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:55.520 All this stuff. 0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:57.359 But well we I had the Sickond round and they 0:41:57.400 --> 0:41:59.879 Sickond round pick is almost a bottom first round. 0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:01.160 So listen, I understand. 0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:04.480 And this is from is this this one right here 0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:06.000 is the montest sweat one I think? 0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:08.560 So thirty five yes, yeah, yeah, we got there from 0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:10.239 forty six. 0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:14.359 Thirty and forty is from Chicago. Thirty six is out 0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:15.759 massed enough. 0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:17.799 To okay, okay, I should. 0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:22.040 Have Walter was Walter was some discussion on the quarterback obviously, 0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:25.240 like we were pretty much in agreement from the start. 0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:27.479 We wanted to go going to go with the big skill. 0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:29.360 We wanted to go with the officive line. Yeah, and 0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:31.120 we had one guy in mind that we really we 0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:33.719 both agreed from the dough and it was Tyler. 0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:34.399 Go Tyler. 0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:40.000 If he might not be there in real life, he's 0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:42.440 rising fast, but if he's here there, he feels like 0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:44.960 he's gonna be picking of the phone immediately. Hey give 0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:45.480 me this guy. 0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:47.080 He's a damn dog. 0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:50.400 I mean Ford tight end, run back right fast. 0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:54.680 If Lendy scrown me, Like, ain't nobody to share corn 0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:56.759 bread with him for years. I'm talking about when I 0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:59.320 say mean, I mean me and he raw enough to 0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:00.640 not have a bad habits. 0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:02.840 He got a couple of bad, got some but but 0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:05.600 but raw enough to be all completed. 0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:09.160 And if you're getting this type of how should I say, 0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:12.040 like worth in the second round right here? I think 0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:14.040 he wanted them guys that can come in and start, 0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.160 and that's what I'm looking for from an ad beef. 0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.640 How quick can you help my team win? 0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:21.640 And I need to draft some starters with them two picks, 0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.120 and I think we both slanted it on guy. 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:27.080 He got better at the Senior Bowl every single day, 0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:30.239 and you mentioned the raw techniques, Like his head was down, 0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:31.879 he's head duck in a little bit, and he kind 0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:35.120 of he kind of catched people whenever he's punching his foot. 0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:37.279 His fit, his footwork wasn't exact where he wanted to be. 0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:39.800 The next day he fixed a lot of that stuff. 0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:43.400 And he mentioned the athleticis like so he's there was 0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:45.080 a they were doing some team stuff in the senior 0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:47.319 in the seniors in the Senior Bowl, and they were 0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:49.480 doing some inside inside zone and he had to cut 0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:53.120 off the backside lineback and that is hard for a 0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:55.080 tackle to do because wand you're going against a lot 0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:57.160 more athletic, a lot faster than you. 0:43:57.400 --> 0:43:59.120 And linebackers again small and faster. 0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:01.520 And so he at the right angle, he knew how 0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:03.600 to get flight by a board day traffic and he 0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:05.680 cut off that linebacker and run back just goes right 0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:07.920 behind him. That kind of stuff. Plus you add the 0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:11.520 raw technique like he's got. He's just a ball clay 0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:14.400 that's already so good without doing all the right technique stuff. 0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:18.080 This guy is like he's you talk about this explosive 0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:21.800 that the the the lottery ticket. He could be so 0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:23.359 special at this left. 0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:25.120 And if you're gonna get a sports car, you need 0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.879 to get a cover when you buy it, and he's 0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:31.760 the cover. He's the cover to protict Drake may Jenden, 0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:33.279 Dangers whoever you want. 0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:34.839 We got to get somebody to protect win. 0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:37.080 Up against some of the best guy like Darius Robinson, 0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.640 Chris Braswell and play on Texans really well. 0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:42.080 No, he held his own in a passing offense. Yes, 0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:45.880 Oklahoma is a passing offense with ride zone running, so 0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:47.160 he know, out of handle some of the stuff. 0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:48.239 He's always gonna be asked to do. 0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:52.480 Dude, if he's here, I think you're doing backflips. I 0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:54.640 don't think he's here, Like you said, Zach, it feels 0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:55.919 like he's gonna be a top twenty player. 0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:59.640 Oh you got to get it's Georgia Alabama, JC Lake them. 0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.640 I just think it's enough pass rush's enough tackles to 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:03.359 push him. 0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:05.360 I hope it happened. 0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:07.319 I hope so. I hope he's here. 0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:09.279 But I think that's say to just support what Zach 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:12.560 was saying, like just you you bet on traits. Yeah, 0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:16.279 and with tackles specifically like athletes. Yeah, this dude is 0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:19.680 a tremendous athlete. He's an easy mover, like he's got 0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:22.160 the length, he's got the size, like he's he's built 0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:25.759 in the last. Yeah, three twenty seven four inch arms. 0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:26.960 He's not married. 0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.959 But the athleticism, like nobody knows has ever a hoop 0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:32.719 with Trent. Trent will take the ball and do a 0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:35.200 three sixty dunk witty and he's your left tackle. 0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:38.479 Yeah, this guy he was here, you'd be I mean again, 0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:41.480 like it's he's these can you go to the addressers 0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:42.080 here real quick? 0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:44.040 Selby and the spirit of of. 0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:48.840 I'm not going to chop Robinson in State. 0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:52.000 No, no, I'm not No, he's asking no, no, but 0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:52.600 he is. 0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:57.279 Available a shop Deza. So this is interesting. So he's 0:45:57.320 --> 0:45:59.640 a fortieth player. Can you go to corners, Zach real quick? 0:45:59.760 --> 0:45:59.920 Yeah? 0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:02.759 Corners and receivers please. 0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:05.160 Axavia Thomas is a guy that I had been looking 0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:05.600 in now. 0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:12.239 So receiver and corner here, corner right there? Yeah? 0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:14.640 All right, So here's who's left. You want to you 0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:15.279 want to read them? 0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.160 So we got Lad mcconchney, who is awesome. He's like 0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:22.000 a perfect little slot receiver Fromgia. But he's he's good 0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:22.719 football player. 0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:23.600 But does he fit? 0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:26.520 He's not a marriage for Keon Coleman is the big 0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:27.880 guy from Forests. I think a lot of people are 0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:30.319 excited about him. I get super nervous when I watch 0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:30.680 this film. 0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:34.040 Is not a great separator and is he but knows 0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.120 how to make catches? He is? 0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:38.239 He Kaneil Harry from Arizona State. 0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:41.160 That's you know, comparison. 0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:45.080 But that's what I'm saying, like you is he that guy? 0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:49.520 He? Again? When you watch State mossn't everybody in side 0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:51.120 Arizona State? Arizona State. 0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:54.680 Yeah, that's how he plays any but he's not a 0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:56.880 great separator and not a lot of nuance to his routes. 0:46:57.440 --> 0:46:59.720 So like who is he really? 0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:01.440 Is what you ask? Yeah, who is he? 0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:03.480 Because like DeVante Parker is another guy that comes to 0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:05.960 mind that fits that kind of not a great separator, 0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:09.160 big guy. So I've got like a I like his 0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:10.640 film because it's fun to watch. 0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:13.120 It's so funny you brought him up because my draft 0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:16.239 that I got drafted. You remember Rod Gardner Climpton I 0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:18.640 received is it? He was taken and he was supposed 0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:22.000 to take Santana right, but they took Rod gotten another 0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:22.640 big receiver. 0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:23.920 It could not separate. 0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:26.480 And so when you look at big receivers, it can't separate. 0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:30.920 In today's NFL, like separation rate is becoming such a 0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:33.880 driver of production at the next level. So I'm kind 0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:36.319 of like, you know what I mean, Like it makes 0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:38.279 me go, oh no, I don't love that makes me 0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:43.600 really nervous. Davantes Walker is another guy, fastest dude you'll see. 0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:48.319 Yeah, play a lot, but leget. 0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:50.480 There. 0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:53.680 And again he's a guy that not not a nuanced 0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:56.360 route runner, but has enough like kind of awareness and 0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:59.040 like size gets open a little bit. I think a 0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:01.360 little bit better than Kean. But again you're dealing with 0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:03.880 guys that I don't know what the value at is 0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:07.080 anything with the receiver specifically at the spot is there 0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:09.560 are a thousand receivers in this class. 0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:13.040 You're going to get a good receiver later a third round. 0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:14.480 You're gonna like fall on a receiver. 0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:16.239 No, not can take Wheelson from flow oud of State. 0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:17.160 If I want a big. 0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:20.320 Toe, big receiver, I like him a lot. Ricky Pearsol 0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:23.640 probably in a third round players he's like lad mcconchney light. 0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:26.080 So there are so I probably would avoid a receiver here. Yeah, 0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:27.399 so we got in the receiver there. 0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:28.720 Yeah, we got in the receiver. 0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:32.640 But also remember we're picking only five spots after this again, 0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:35.759 so you don't need to you don't need to reach 0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:38.680 for somebody yet. All these receivers, you're going to get 0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:41.200 a good one in just five picks if it's a 0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:43.920 great point. So we gotta find I think if I'm 0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:44.600 in the room. 0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:46.920 With you, oh that might be the pick right there. 0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:48.000 We gotta find. 0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:51.000 Somebody that is in a position right now that I 0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:54.960 can't get a good value at in just five picks. 0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:56.319 So like, where is it thin? 0:48:56.880 --> 0:48:58.080 And we need to get that play. 0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:01.279 So this is one okay, Tyld. I think we all 0:49:01.320 --> 0:49:04.319 agree probably best player available at this spot. And I'm 0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:07.239 really pissed because Darius Robinson went pick thirty five. He's 0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:09.360 a guy that if he's available, you sprint. He's the 0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:12.520 defensive end for Missouri. You sprint that up there, You 0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:15.040 sprint that up there. So the couple guys that I'm 0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:19.640 looking at, Graham Barton from Duke, played center, played guard, 0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:22.080 played tackle. He is a guard at this level. He 0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:26.360 is super twitchy, super physical, plays through the whistle. 0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:28.080 Do you want to spin the high pick like that? 0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:30.279 He's a second round pick on a guy that can 0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:33.839 play forced three spots on the offensive line. And so again, 0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:35.640 like I think, if he goes to the Senior Bowl, 0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:37.920 we're talking about him in a much different line. 0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:39.359 What about what about Patrick Paul? 0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:41.360 Patrick Paul? This seems a little heat to me. I 0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:42.920 think you get him later. I think I think in 0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:46.239 real draft land, if this is real, this is PFS rankings, Yeah, 0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:49.759 I think Graham Barton, you feel really good about the 0:49:49.840 --> 0:49:52.799 other guy. I know you hate him, but for dan 0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:57.160 Quinn's system, might be the move is chop Robinson. 0:49:56.880 --> 0:50:02.600 Okay, I don't hate Chop Robinson. I never said that. 0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:07.400 So I'm a Penn State fan, right, and he just 0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:08.719 frustrated me. That's all. 0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:12.759 He is super athletic. So you know how you've all 0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:15.759 been saying like he's a sports car, a Lamborghini. He's 0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:19.040 a Lamborghini, but he's if you put somebody with a 0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:20.440 driver's permit in it. 0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:23.200 He's not. 0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:28.440 He's got one thing and one thing. 0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:30.000 You show up a five star. 0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:31.600 And you leave with three stars. 0:50:31.760 --> 0:50:34.200 But that's why you get into coaching there and you 0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:36.719 you give him a driving star to the Hey, how 0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:37.000 you do? 0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:39.719 That's what you're betting on with Chop. You're taking his 0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:42.800 athletic ability and you're betting you can make him be 0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:43.719 what you need him to do. 0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:45.880 This is something about Chop that I think is really interesting. 0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:50.560 With Chop specifically, is I think he is when you 0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:55.040 watch his film and don't nobody freak out. Everyone calm down. 0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:59.200 He don't be in There's elements, elements, elements in terms 0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:03.279 of athletic prof file, not the player athletic profile, not 0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:07.200 this guy athletic profile. Michael Parsons. Okay, so when you 0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:10.560 watch him, his burst off the ball, is the best 0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:15.160 of the class. Chop Robinson, don't know that's what I'm saying. 0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:19.320 Would you say he's the defensive end version of what 0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:22.799 Anthony Richardson was to quarterbacks last year, Like just all 0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:24.439 these crazy traits. 0:51:25.239 --> 0:51:25.319 But. 0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:32.840 Anthony Richardson was like good at football. Like I'm not 0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:33.239 saying that. 0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:35.800 Andony reaches. 0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:38.440 I'm more on board after watching him. 0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:42.000 I'm just I'm trying to buy in the choppier because 0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:46.040 he's such a physical I think he disappears man. 0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:47.759 If you use if you use him the way that 0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:49.960 they use Micah in that system where he's lining up 0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:52.239 in the a gas everywhere and he's just explosive. You 0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:54.399 got him running on stunts and loops like he's gonna 0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:57.000 run probably a four to four. Yeah, he's that kind 0:51:57.040 --> 0:51:58.879 of we'll get you taken in the first So he's 0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:01.120 gonna imagine it running loop stuff where he doesn't have 0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:02.600 to like win with his hand. 0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:04.400 When he doesn't have to beat people with his with 0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:05.720 his technique. 0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:08.320 In this system, you might elevate him. Right again, I 0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:10.400 think Graham Barton is a guy that just feels like 0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:13.400 I just a nice easy double. We're just getting on 0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:15.279 base boom double well, let me. 0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:18.160 Okay, what about the other Penn State Edge Isaac? 0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:20.360 So I would I have a slightly higher grade on. 0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:22.879 Disa Isaac slightly slightly higher. 0:52:23.280 --> 0:52:24.840 And I just because I think he's he's going to 0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:27.759 test like an Appenma is gonna be pretty pretty big. 0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:29.600 I think he's gonna jump over forty inches. I think 0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:32.160 he's gonna run a four to four. And again I 0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:34.440 like the other guy a lot. But who else is 0:52:34.480 --> 0:52:36.000 in the edge? I look at the edges and weird, 0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:40.800 I think we go because it's so Andrean Cooper Andreck 0:52:40.840 --> 0:52:42.920 Cooper is interesting because I've seen like he is a 0:52:43.120 --> 0:52:44.000 freaky athlete. 0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:44.880 He's a tweener dough. 0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:46.960 But again, do you want a developmental linebacker? 0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:48.279 To your point, he's a twin er. 0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:50.479 Due, all right, who are we taking Logan, I'll defer 0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:50.719 to you. 0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:54.239 So if I was going to go here, because another 0:52:54.280 --> 0:52:57.080 guy that is on this list is Marshawn Keeland, and 0:52:57.200 --> 0:52:59.800 I like his film a lot better from Western Michigan. 0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:03.560 He's six three, he's two seventy. He plays like he's 0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:06.400 got a firecracker rappers, but like he is not. He 0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:09.719 never slows down. I think you get him later. So 0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:11.640 I think you go with a guy that is more 0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:13.960 valuable here in ram Barton. And this is where it's tough, 0:53:13.960 --> 0:53:16.960 because I was I was really hoping Darius Robinson or 0:53:17.520 --> 0:53:19.480 the Edge from UDUB was gonna be here, and in 0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:20.560 this mock, they're not. 0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:24.439 Robinson went right before such a da right before. Yeah. 0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:29.000 So the guy from U DUB, the Bryson Bryce Truth. 0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:30.600 Yes, yeah, yeah, he's big. 0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:31.319 What's his name? 0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:34.080 I'm looking it up right now. His name eludes me. 0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:34.840 I watched him. 0:53:34.719 --> 0:53:36.320 Yesterday, Bryson Tremaine. 0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:40.000 So did y'all he end up taking did y'all he 0:53:40.080 --> 0:53:42.960 end up taking Chop Robins? Yeah? Yeah, so right there. 0:53:43.040 --> 0:53:44.120 No, I don't think we're gonna take him. 0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:46.640 As much as that pains me, I think we're gonna 0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:48.880 go because I do think I think he's gonna I 0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:51.640 think his value in this system is more Chop Robinson 0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:54.880 than other places. Yeah, but I would probably go Barton 0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:55.640 with this pic. 0:53:55.960 --> 0:53:56.879 Yeah we got y'all. 0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:58.759 Go go go to dB real quick one more time. 0:53:58.800 --> 0:53:59.560 Let's just double check. 0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:02.680 You're looking for DJ Turtle from Alburn. 0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:05.080 I'm just looking for just I want to find somebody 0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:06.399 that I like, I'm fired up about. 0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:09.200 Well, you should go to the safeties Miami two safeties. 0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:12.160 Yeah. Sorry, this is not great podcasting. 0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:14.040 No, this is really bad. We need to make a pick. 0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:15.880 Carm and Kitchens. 0:54:16.120 --> 0:54:17.600 I feel like they would have already been on Grand 0:54:17.640 --> 0:54:18.880 Barton pick. Grand Barton's the pick. 0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:21.239 I would say, Carmen and Kitchen sitting there, Grand Barton, 0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:21.840 Grean Barton. 0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:24.200 Yeah, I feel really good about that. And you're talking 0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:25.040 about Trice. 0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:29.880 Trice, Yeah, you can do a backflip also. But all right, 0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:31.400 let's move on to the third round here. 0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:33.520 No, we to the second pick of the second round. 0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:38.960 Second round, Okay, yeah, gotta admit you know, this is 0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:40.239 where we kind of deferred a lot. 0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:40.640 Yeah. 0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:41.960 Yeah, this is where it gets tough. 0:54:42.200 --> 0:54:44.960 It's where it gets tough. Now, I have I have 0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:48.640 some opinions that I feel like we should go receiver here. Yeah, 0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:51.000 he feels like we should go tight end. 0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:53.919 All right, let's look, say, pull the receivers up first. 0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:55.279 Yeah, it's pull the receivers up first. 0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:55.880 Receive. 0:54:56.600 --> 0:55:00.879 There's a guy that Now, now, look, man, we both 0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:03.360 like Leget. Let's not. 0:55:03.520 --> 0:55:07.120 Let's not from South Carolina. 0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:10.600 He's a bigger, stronger, faster version of Deebo Sam. 0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:14.560 Here's the something too. He has traits that this roster 0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:17.120 needs speeds, and I don't think it really has right 0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:19.000 because you've got a lot of guys who are kind of. 0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:21.520 Mid sized guys with mid feeds, and those are great. 0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:22.359 We o those guys. 0:55:22.440 --> 0:55:24.400 Yeah, but you can't have the same. You can't have 0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:24.799 the same. 0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:26.480 You gotta do that can say, all right, we're not 0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:27.920 gonna be able to throw you the best pass all 0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:30.120 the time. Yeah, we need you to out physical guy 0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:31.440 down the field and flip. 0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:31.640 It for us. 0:55:31.680 --> 0:55:33.920 But see, this is what happened to get He's a 0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:38.840 victim of our prior perceptions, our prior doings, because we 0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:42.680 took the wide receiver a year ago to guy I 0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:45.000 think we got to go tight end here like because 0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:46.759 at the end of the day, we got a tight 0:55:46.880 --> 0:55:47.440 end sit here. 0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:48.680 And the one thing I get. 0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:51.480 Tight ends when it comes to defensive players, they keep 0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:54.279 drives going. WHI receivers might make the big plays, but 0:55:54.400 --> 0:55:56.479 if I can get a big play tight end plus 0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:59.600 a chain mover all in one, take us to the 0:55:59.640 --> 0:55:59.960 tight end. 0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:00.799 Brother, let me big. 0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:06.640 Let me tell you who we take into Totavious Sanders, Texas. 0:56:07.200 --> 0:56:10.560 We talking about a guy I'm guaranteeing you right now, it. 0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:13.000 Almost sixty five pounds. 0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:15.120 He might be running the fourth to fourth when when 0:56:15.200 --> 0:56:15.879 we watch him. 0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:17.799 If you want to see what he can do on film, 0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:20.960 people go watch Alabama Texas at the beginning of the 0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:22.800 year and see what he did to one of the 0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:25.720 best safeties in college football, some of the best running 0:56:25.760 --> 0:56:29.000 inside linebackers in football. And he do what I want 0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:31.120 all my tight ends to do. He liked to get 0:56:31.160 --> 0:56:35.040 his clothes dirty. He likes to get his clothes dirty. 0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:37.399 So now that I got a quarterback with the first pick, 0:56:37.680 --> 0:56:39.680 now that I protected him with a tackle with the 0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:43.000 second pick. With the third pick, the law firm was smooth, 0:56:43.040 --> 0:56:45.160 and Selby said, we got to get a tight end 0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:47.200 in here, and not just a tight end, a tight 0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:48.960 end that can grow with the quarterback and be with 0:56:49.040 --> 0:56:50.560 him for the next ten years. 0:56:51.200 --> 0:56:53.239 I'm gonna defer to you on this, yeah, Truck, because 0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:55.360 I trust you, Fir. I think this is this relationship 0:56:55.360 --> 0:56:56.839 we're building right now. I think we're a war life 0:56:56.880 --> 0:56:59.560 that we're similar. But I'm gonna throw this into you. Yeah, Yeah, 0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:02.759 I'm try trust you here. Yeah maybe in later on 0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:05.000 in these other drafts. Yeah, You're gonna have to trust 0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:06.640 me on some other things. I got one. 0:57:07.280 --> 0:57:07.719 I got one. 0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:09.759 I can trust you. But when I looked at this 0:57:09.920 --> 0:57:12.879 tight end list, Cage Stover, I think in the league 0:57:12.880 --> 0:57:14.759 he's gonna be an in line guy. And I just 0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:16.760 kept looking down and the only other guy that I 0:57:16.840 --> 0:57:19.200 said could probably be the one on one with Joheen 0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:20.680 Baio from Florida State. 0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:24.200 But he's almost a hybrid Cooley type player. 0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:26.200 And he's more of a route one. 0:57:26.320 --> 0:57:28.680 Yeah, Like he's more of a route running half back 0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:29.480 type of. 0:57:29.520 --> 0:57:31.280 Do The only reason I only reason I say that 0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:34.480 is because when we get into more drafts here there's 0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:37.800 a there's an officive lineman that I think is really 0:57:37.880 --> 0:57:38.600 going to be a steal. 0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:40.840 But we just took out novel. 0:57:40.960 --> 0:57:43.080 What I'm saying is later on drafts. Yeah, I want 0:57:43.080 --> 0:57:43.880 you to trust me. One. 0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:47.080 I trust you, brother, I trust you. Today we're gonna go. 0:57:47.520 --> 0:57:48.280 We're gonna say this. 0:57:50.360 --> 0:57:51.840 I think that's a little bit of a reach, Sir Fred. 0:57:52.720 --> 0:57:56.320 Why he's ranked fifty like you, This is what you 0:57:56.440 --> 0:57:58.400 told me. We need to fall. 0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:01.120 Yeah, you need to fall a little with you. 0:58:01.200 --> 0:58:01.520 Just say it. 0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:04.080 It ain't PM, it's what we need. 0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:07.800 I'm gonna say this Theo Johnson excellent football player, Ben's 0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:10.320 not excellent football player. Jared Wiley, He's not even on 0:58:10.400 --> 0:58:12.520 this list, is maybe the best of those guys I 0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:14.840 just mentioned. So I think you can get a guy 0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:16.960 who can be a game changer that isn't a tight 0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:18.880 end at this high and I think about good tight ends, 0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:21.440 you know, Travis Kelsey third round, Kittle third round, Mark 0:58:21.480 --> 0:58:23.760 Andrews third round. Right, that I think is where the 0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:25.200 nice value at is there. But I think he's a 0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:27.360 good football player. Jadavion's a good football player, no doubt 0:58:27.360 --> 0:58:30.200 about it. For us, it's Chop Robinson and I think 0:58:30.240 --> 0:58:30.720 we are. 0:58:31.000 --> 0:58:35.920 No debate, no, no, no, no. We need to go edge. 0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:37.360 We need to go edge. 0:58:37.720 --> 0:58:39.560 I don't like Chopp, but I do deferdy. 0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:40.520 So go to go to the edges real quick, just 0:58:40.600 --> 0:58:42.760 to give like some context here, we'll keep this really quick. 0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:45.800 Chop again is the guy. I think he's gonna bull 0:58:45.880 --> 0:58:48.640 up the combine. Adisse Isaac is also here. His running 0:58:48.680 --> 0:58:51.920 mate at Penn State, got a lot of juice. I 0:58:51.960 --> 0:58:54.320 don't think he bends as well. And then think about Shop. 0:58:54.440 --> 0:58:55.919 That gets me a little bit nervous. He's a little 0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:58.480 bit of one Tripony edge power guy. But I think 0:58:58.600 --> 0:59:00.920 in this system, with all the movement these guys do 0:59:01.000 --> 0:59:03.440 in terms of stunts, I feel like Chop might be 0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:06.360 the more productive player. But again, I love I love 0:59:06.520 --> 0:59:09.520 Marshawn Keeling, love him. And again where is he from? 0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:10.720 He's from Western Michigan. 0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:15.120 And I think we could take Solomon later, Troy a dog. 0:59:15.320 --> 0:59:18.160 A dog, and we got the whole third round to 0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:18.760 get received. 0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:20.600 You know what I'm saying. Say, we're set up. We're 0:59:20.600 --> 0:59:21.000 set up. 0:59:21.040 --> 0:59:24.200 There's a lot of glory, but we've got a lot 0:59:24.280 --> 0:59:25.000 of other guys, and. 0:59:25.040 --> 0:59:27.280 We still got Jared might try to another guy to 0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:28.080 flit it in gaps. 0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:30.200 So yeah, all right, I'm with you with we're betting 0:59:30.280 --> 0:59:33.000 on our coaching, betting on betting on the coaching, which 0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:34.480 which again is what you gotta do. 0:59:34.800 --> 0:59:38.240 So we went basically primary offense. We went, we went. 0:59:38.360 --> 0:59:40.120 We had an offensive draft. 0:59:40.120 --> 0:59:42.080 Yes, yeah, I think what you need. 0:59:42.480 --> 0:59:44.640 Yeah, we guys drafted on the offensive players. 0:59:44.760 --> 0:59:47.200 Know, we drafted attackle quarterback, and a tight end. 0:59:48.560 --> 0:59:51.760 So you guys had your your three picks, yeah. 0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:55.360 Yep, and three picks are We drafted Drake May with 0:59:55.480 --> 0:59:59.040 the number two pick. We drafted Uh, Tyler, I mean 0:59:59.400 --> 1:00:02.760 Tyler guy good, really good. And we drafted a tight 1:00:02.920 --> 1:00:07.080 end athlete, not Logan after leap this. 1:00:07.160 --> 1:00:09.120 When we drafted, honestly, I think the best thick we 1:00:09.200 --> 1:00:11.080 had is Guide, just because I think I think that 1:00:11.200 --> 1:00:12.120 that that that value. 1:00:12.720 --> 1:00:15.400 It has to be Drake May but Guid to live 1:00:15.480 --> 1:00:17.560 up to what he needs to be and Sad. 1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:19.560 In the middle. I hear you, But Guidan is a 1:00:19.560 --> 1:00:21.880 guy that can protect your your biggest asset. 1:00:21.960 --> 1:00:24.040 Are your right And we got we got Jaydon Daniels. 1:00:24.120 --> 1:00:26.720 We got Graham uh not Graham Barton. Yeah, Graham Barton 1:00:26.800 --> 1:00:30.480 from Duke the center guard tackle. And then we got 1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:33.400 Chop Robinson as the edge rusher. Explosive, that rusher, he's 1:00:33.480 --> 1:00:35.600 going to be, uh, pretty dynamic. We need to fill 1:00:35.640 --> 1:00:36.080 that deep well. 1:00:36.120 --> 1:00:38.000 We want the fans to vote for who they think 1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:41.320 are the best one. We'll put that poll on Spotify. 1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:43.440 So when you download this on Spotify, make sure you 1:00:43.560 --> 1:00:45.880 vote for Logan and Jack Jason 1:00:47.520 --> 1:00:48.280 Jack Jason