1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Live from Atlanta. This is a special edition of Sound On. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: He's gonna be former Santis good the time of him 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: to go. All we saw during the general election was 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: this is all about who's a Republican showing up and 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: who's a Democrat shown up? The Georgia runoff election, politics, 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: policy and perspective. At least the early voting numbers. Democrats 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: are bullied by those. Of course, Republicans vote same day 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: in higher numbers. He was amazing running back and he 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: will need those skills because com Tuesday, we're gonna send 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: him running back to Texas. Bloomberg Sound On with Joe 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. The mid terms finally end tomorrow. 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the fastest hour in politics, as we join 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: you from the center of the political universe, live from Atlanta, 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: where closing arguments are being made in tomorrow's Senate runoff, 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: so we can bring you this race up close and 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: personal on the ground. Will be joined in a moment 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: by Georgia Congressman Buddy Carter, Republican from the first districts 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: including Savannah, on how his party can mobilize voters tomorrow. 19 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: Our signature panel is in place Bloomberg Politics contributors Jeanie 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: Chanzano and Rick Davis or with us for the hour, 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: and we'll hear as well from two more local voices today, 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: Republican strategist president of main Street Network Strategies, Julianne Thompson 23 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: and Democratic strategist Fred Hicks, founder of Hicks Evaluation and 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: expert in data analytics and polling. We have made our 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: way to Atlanta, where it is pouring rain on this 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: final full day of campaigning. Here we go sound from 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: logan Bill Georgia Bad to the Bone, where herschel Walker 28 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: arrived with the sounds of George Thoroughgood at his biggest 29 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: event of the weekend before touring today the northern reaches 30 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: of the state on the hunt for votes. The message 31 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: is simple, in the wake of a record early vote, 32 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: get to the polls on Tuesday. Here he is, oh, 33 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: vote like democracy depends on it, Vote like health care 34 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: depends on it. Vote like a woman's right to choose 35 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: depends on it. Because it does. You want to vote 36 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: like it's an emergency, all right. That's actually Senator Raphael Warnock, 37 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: and we need to be careful here. He was campaigning 38 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: here in Atlanta with his fellow Democratic Senator John ass 39 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: Off at his side. His message much the same as Walker, 40 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: get out to vote. It's hard to say more about 41 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: turnout as a factor here, and it's supposed to keep 42 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: on raining tomorrow. My god, I'll tell you it wasn't 43 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: easy getting into town. It was just pouring, making the 44 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: job every more difficult for these campaigns in a race 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: that is too close to call. That's where we begin 46 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: with Congressman Buddy Carter, Republican from Georgia's first district. Congressman, welcome, 47 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: it's great to have you. You're joining us, I realized 48 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: from Washington, But I have to ask, are you worried 49 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: about the weather here tomorrow? Well, yeah, anytime you have 50 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: inclement weather like that, you have to be worried. And 51 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: you know, this is another reason and why early voting 52 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: is important, and we as Republicans, we need to embrace 53 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: early pro voting. I we typically want to vote on 54 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: election day, and I get it and understand it, but 55 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, if it's raining, casting dogs, then it just 56 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: makes it tougher. And I do think we've gotten better. 57 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: I think that we've gotten better with early voting. I 58 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: think we've embraced it more. But at the same time, 59 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: we we got to be smart about this because runoffs 60 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: are nothing more than who can get their voters out. 61 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: That's all there is too. That's right. Well, and I 62 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: and I asked you that, of course, because that's that's 63 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: the story. Here, were at the turnout point here, and 64 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of early votes come from Democratic 65 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: friendly areas. How do Republicans make up the difference in person? Well, 66 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: we've got to turn out. We've got to get out tomorrow. 67 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: I realized that if it's if it's raining, that's going 68 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: to be inconvenient and it's probably gonna be miserable. But 69 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: that's okay. This is important. This is too important to 70 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: let weather keep you home. Look at split in the 71 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: Senate is extremely important. We've learned that over last two years. 72 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: It means if we have fifty fifty, it means that 73 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: we'll have fifty fifty in the committee process, and that's 74 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: extremely important. It also means that instead of Chuck Schumer 75 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: being in charge with nine league, that we've got fifty 76 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: fifty and at least we can count on Joe Manson 77 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: sometimes not all the time, I recognized, but I'd rather 78 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: put my cards with Joe mentioned that shooter. Well, if 79 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: you could hear you now, were you surprised this race 80 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: went to a runoff Congress from Republicans one every other 81 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: statewide race in Georgia, why not this one? Well, I 82 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: think there were a number of reasons why. Obviously Herschel Walker, 83 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: the amount of money that was spent by the Warnock 84 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: campaign and the amount of negative campaigning that was done, 85 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: and obviously it had some impact. We recognize that now. 86 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: And the fact that Herschel was the first the Senate 87 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: race was the first ticket or the first item on 88 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: the as opposed to maybe coattails of the governor who 89 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: did exceptionally. Well, um, that didn't that didn't um that, 90 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: that didn't originate because of the fact that Herschel was first. 91 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: State wide federal races come before statewide state races, and 92 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: and that meant that the Senate race was first. So 93 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: no coattails there. That'll be the same deal tomorrow, right, 94 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: So he's he's got to do this in a vacuum. 95 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: Now he does, he does, there's no one else to 96 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: count on. Um and that. But but then again, you know, 97 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: I think we all recognize the importance of this, and 98 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: that's why we've just got to get out. Was herschel 99 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: Walker the best candidate for Georgia When you look back 100 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: over the course of this campaign, even Mitch McConnell was 101 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: talking about candidate quality Congressman. There's there's been some bizarre 102 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: turns in this campaign. There have been, and I think 103 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: that's a question that needs to be asked perhaps UM 104 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: nationwide about some of our candidates. But herschel Walker is 105 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: a fine candidate. I think herschell Walker would would make 106 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: a great senator. I think that he reflects the conservative 107 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: Republican values of the average Georgian as opposed to Rockiol Warnock, 108 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: who is one of the most liberal senators Indian Nited 109 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: States and who votes with Joe Biden. Herschel Walker is 110 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: not going to vote with Joe Biden. Arfail Warnock is 111 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: going to. That's that's clear there, and and Joe Biden 112 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: and Rafael Warnock do not reflect the values of the 113 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: average Jordan. Well, that's interesting, uh that you that you 114 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: bring this up, because Warnocks done pretty well considering the 115 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: conditions that we just talked about, right, I mean, you've 116 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: got uh you had Brian Kemp at the top of 117 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: the ticket in the general. Uh, it's the only race 118 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: that a Republican managed to make a dent in. You 119 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: just wonder what might have happened. You know, if there 120 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: was a different Republican candidate, would that have been a 121 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: different scenario. Well, you know that that's hund sits always. 122 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: But again, I think that that herschell Walker is a 123 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: great candidate, and I think that he is. Uh. I 124 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: think that he's taken a lot, There's no question about it. 125 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: They come after him, full guns blasting, and and he's 126 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: he's kept his chin up and he's continued to plow forward. 127 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: And I think he'll do that in the United States Senate. 128 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm very proud of him, and I'm proud to have 129 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: him on the ticket, and I'm going to be proud 130 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: to serve here in Washington, d C. With him when 131 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: he's electing them all. What do you make of your 132 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: lieutenant Governor? And I And I say this knowing that 133 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: Brian Kemp has thrown his weight in behind this weight 134 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: and money and ground machine behind herschel Walker. The Lieutenant 135 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: governor of Georgia says he couldn't bring himself the vote 136 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: for herschel Walker, that he might have been the worst 137 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: candidate ever for Senate here. You know, my mother, God 138 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: bless her soul, always told me if I didn't have 139 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: anything good to say, not to say anything. So okay, 140 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: but that's got to have an impact in again, right, 141 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: people are listening when something is this close, people are 142 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: listening for clues to pull him one way or the other. Congressman. Yeah, 143 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: and and the clue is it's it's look alection have consequences. 144 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: And the reasons elections have consequences is because policies have consequences, 145 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: and we are suffering the consequences now of the Biden 146 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: administration policies. Now, do you want to send somebody from 147 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: Georgia to Washington, d C. Who is going to support 148 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: the Biden administration policy like Rafael Warnock is going to 149 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: and has done. Or do you want to send someone 150 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: who reflects the conservative values of the average Jordans Georgian 151 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: like herschel Walker will, and like herschel Walker does. That's 152 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: the question here. It is about policy. Herschel Walker supports 153 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: the policies that most Georgians support. That's those would be 154 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell's policies. Right, And I ask you that because 155 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: he hasn't gone too deep in a lot of these issues. 156 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: He just says, you know, Warnock votes Biden, So does 157 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: that mean Walker votes McConnell. I think Walker votes conservative, 158 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: and he votes along conservative policies and would put conservative policies. 159 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: And that's that's what Georgians won't. They want less government, 160 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: they want less government intrusion in their lives. And that's 161 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: what Herschel Walker agrees with. And that's what he's going 162 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: to vote for, and that's what he's going to support 163 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: as a member of the United States Senate. You said 164 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: to News Max Uh that quote, there is no reason 165 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: a Democrat unquote should represent Georgia in the Senate. What 166 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: would you say to people who live in Atlanta who 167 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: support Raphael Warnock, who voted for him gosh four times. Now, 168 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: where are they wrong? Well, you know, and that that 169 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: comment was made, and that statement was made in view 170 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: of Georgia as a total, as a complete state, and 171 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: I think that when you look at the totality of 172 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: the state of Georgia, I think we're still a red state. 173 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: I think we're still a conservative state. And I don't 174 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: think that Rafael will not reflects those values. I think 175 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: he votes with the Biden administration any six percent at 176 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: the time, and that's not what what the majority of 177 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: all Georgias, whether they live in Atlanta or whether they 178 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: live in the South Georgia or wherever. When you take 179 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: the totality of it, I think that most Georgians support 180 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: conservative principles and conservative values and policies back where we 181 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: started Congress. When I'm assuming you voted early or absentee, 182 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: obviously you're serving in Washington, d C. Here, is that 183 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: going to be the takeaway from this election Republicans need 184 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: to warm up to or at least those who haven't 185 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: yet early voting. I think it is. I think that, 186 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: combined with a number of other things, including the fact 187 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: that now we have the Election Integrity Act in place 188 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: that the Georgia State Legislature play put into the effect, 189 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: it gives us confidence that every legal vote is going 190 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: to be counting, no illegal votes are going to be counting. 191 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: It made voting easier and cheating harder. I think also 192 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: we learned important lessons in the runoff almost two years 193 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: ago when we didn't show up. When Republicans didn't show 194 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: up from the runoff and we got the results were 195 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: too Democratic. Senators Thomas Wan, thanks for coming to see us. 196 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate your insights. Representative Buddy Carter from the first 197 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: District of Georgia. As we get things rolling here on 198 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: the fastest hour in politics, live from Atlanta and the 199 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: best panel in the business. Rick Davis and Jeannie Chanzano 200 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: are with us now on this election eve. It's not 201 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: really election eve though, when people vote for two weeks already, 202 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: and maybe we should just do away with all of this, uh, 203 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: all of this jargon here, Jennie, it's pretty interesting to 204 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: hear a Republican warming up to early voting, knowing that 205 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: that has been an undeniable factor in this campaign. It has, 206 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: and you know, Congressman Carter, he made some really important 207 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: points on that issue. You know, to win Walker has 208 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: to win election day by about thirteen to sixteen percent. 209 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: That means getting them out to vote that day. Imagine, 210 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, if he had been able to, with the 211 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: help of Republicans, get them out early, it could really 212 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: change the ball game. But unfortunately for Republicans, they've been 213 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: listening to Donald Trump talk about fraud and now getting 214 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: out early. So this is something Republicans are going to 215 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: have to address, and if Er loses this tight election, 216 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: it's likely going to be on the backs of this 217 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: early voting one five million and one third of them 218 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: from black voters, which are largely Democratic. Those are bad 219 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: numbers for Republicans. Are we reading into this the right 220 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: way here? Rick? The conventional wisdom is those early ballots 221 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: coming from Democratic friendly areas, from people of color advantage Warnock, Yeah, 222 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: I think you are reading it that way, But I 223 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: think it's not a uh, it's not a done deal 224 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: that every early vote in any given state is gonna 225 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: mirror those kinds of results. I mean, you know, we 226 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: we ran successfully four times for John McCain in Arizona, 227 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: and he won the early balloting every time. I mean, 228 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: are honestly the last time he ran, it was almost 229 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: impossible for him to lose on election day he was 230 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: so far ahead and the early vote and it just 231 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: happens to be a mentality that you have where you 232 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: go out and you try and get that early vote. 233 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: And Republicans I really don't understand the rationale around not 234 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: contesting early vote. I think that's one of the biggest 235 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: mistakes and one of the worst gifts of Donald Trump's 236 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: administration not contesting it or not embracing it either. I mean, 237 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: like it's the easiest one to get. You can call 238 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: someone over and over and over each day until they 239 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: turn their ballot in, and you know, when they turn 240 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: their ballot in, you can go knock on their door, 241 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: you can call them up, you can go see them. 242 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazingly a successful thing, and it does 243 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: increase turnout, which is what we're seeing here. So what 244 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: do you do, Genie, if you're running the herschel Walker 245 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: campaign and you know it's gonna pour like cats and 246 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: dogs tomorrow, you know, offer to drive people. Yeah, you 247 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: get them out there anyway you can. You offer to 248 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: drive them, you offer incentives. You know, the rain, you know, 249 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: is a really big issue. And I think they should 250 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: also get Congressman Carter out there. I mean, he made 251 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 1: a really important case about why this matters for Republicans, 252 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: and that's a problem. It's been a problem for Republicans 253 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: because it's Democrats who have been making the case on 254 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: the campaign trail. This matters for our committees, It matters 255 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: for us to get to fifty one. He just made 256 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: a really important case for Republicans. This matters for us 257 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: as well. We haven't been hearing that as much on 258 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: the stump. He should be out there for the Walker 259 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: campaign making that case. Well, herschel Walker was out over 260 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: the weekend. As we heard. He's playing George through a 261 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: good let's let's listen to him. Actually, here's herschel Walker 262 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: from that same event in Loganville. We're gonna turn out, 263 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: turn out, torn out. So I'm trying to get the 264 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: figure out to turn out the vote, be about to 265 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: vote tomorrow town. To get out and vote. Vote, vote 266 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: if you hadn't voted down, to get out and vote. 267 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: It's basically all he said. Ricky hardly touched on issues. 268 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: It was just go vote and and we'll talk after that. 269 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: Is that the best closing argument or is that the 270 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: closing argument for herschel Walker. Well, there's not much left 271 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: the night before an election, and so the reality is 272 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: that that is the message, which is he's got to 273 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: get people to turn out, and he's got to get 274 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: him to turn out in huge numbers if he's going 275 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: to be competitive here. I mean, the state is split 276 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: and it it tilts Republicans. So if if he could 277 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: actually make common cause in the last twelve hours. With 278 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: these voters, he can get a surge on voting tomorrow. 279 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: But that's about all that he's got left. There's no 280 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: other issue that's going to drive people of the polls 281 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: that hasn't already been discussed. Boy well, okay, so that 282 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: said Raphael Warnock one, uh the first time around here, 283 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: I have to be careful that that election in November, 284 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: by thirty seven thousand votes, we know two hundred thousand 285 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: people split the ticket and did not vote for herschel Walker. 286 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: Those who voted for Brian Kemp did not vote for 287 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: herschel Walker. Rick, How does that math come together tomorrow? Well, 288 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: I mean that's the target group that you just described, 289 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: that Brian Kemp voters who didn't vote for for herschel Walker. 290 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: And and and they know exactly who they are right 291 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: by now. They've analyzed the voter list, they've been looking 292 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: over it for the last dirty days. They've been making 293 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: phone calls and doing door knocks. And and as I 294 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: understand that Brian Kempt's organization on the ground has stayed 295 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: uh fully Floyd and are trying to get the vote out. 296 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: If there is a big cut of that two thousand 297 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,119 Speaker 1: and at least probably another forty thousand that would overcome 298 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: a natural advantage that Warnock has than than the winner 299 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: here is not just gonna be Mitch McConnell, but it's 300 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: gonna be Briant Kemp. So this is Kemp's machine versus 301 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: the Abrams machine, Gennie, it absolutely is. And you know, 302 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: if Kemp could pull this out on behalf of Walker, 303 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: that is big bona fides for Kemp if he can 304 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: do it, Bloyd, fascinating. We're just getting started here with 305 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: Rick and Jennie and a lot more to follow on 306 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: our first day on the ground here in Atlanta, the 307 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: day before the runoff. Will be here through Wednesday. This 308 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg Sound On with Joe Matthew 309 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. Bloomberg sound On continues from Atlanta, hotland 310 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: of the center of the political universe today with the 311 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: runoff tomorrow. I'm Joe Matthew and joined with our Atlanta 312 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: panel Julian Thompson's Republican strategist President of main Street Network Strategies, 313 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: Fred Hicks is with us as well, Democratic political strategist 314 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: and founder of the Hicks Evaluation Group, a consulting firm 315 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: that specializes in candidates and issue campaigns. It's great to 316 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: see both of you. Thank you for having us here 317 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Uh, Julianne. There's been a lot of talk 318 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: about the early vote in the need to get turned 319 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: out tomorrow, and it's pouring outside right now. What do 320 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: the next twenty four hours look like for the herschel 321 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: Walker campaign. Well, the next twenty four hours are extremely 322 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: crucial for herschel Walker UM. As we all know, the 323 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: early vote early vote in Georgia anyway, usually most often 324 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: favorite Democrats here in Georgia. And we've had one point 325 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: over one point eight million early voters UM as of 326 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: the end of last week when early voting finished, and 327 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: with over over sixty of the absentee ballots that were 328 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: mailed out have already been returned. So if we're looking 329 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: at next week, what Republicans really need to focus on 330 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: and and of course hope for, is that more than 331 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: one point five million people need to turn out to 332 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: vote in tomorrow's election UM. And it's projected that approximately 333 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: fifty nine to six of election day voters will be Republicans, 334 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: So Republicans need those high numbers for turn out tomorrow. 335 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: Kind of need a perfect days, A perfect day in 336 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: the rain is what is what is required. What we 337 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: need people to turn out that are willing to stand 338 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: in the rein if necessary. Hey friend, I'm really taken 339 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: by the sort of campaign cultures and approaches where you 340 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: see Raphael Warnock doing six events today and he's all 341 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: over the state. He's doing a lot of media, a 342 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: lot of interviews. Herschel Walker has been much more focused 343 00:18:53,840 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: on fewer events, fewer interviews, focused on conservative media. Uh. 344 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: You couldn't have two different approaches in Georgia, could you. 345 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: It really couldn't. And I think that's reflective of having 346 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: two very different, slash divergent candidates for office. UM. And 347 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: let me first say I think the Julian's numbers are 348 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: spot on. UM. You know, based on data the way 349 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: that we've run it as well as other firms, it 350 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: looks like, uh, you had about fifty of the early 351 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: vote UM was comprised of Democrats and forty or forty 352 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,239 Speaker 1: seven percent of Republicans. And so to Julian's point, if 353 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: you have a low turnout below a million, that's heavily 354 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: favorite Senator Warnock. I think once you get between that 355 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: one to one point seven million, one point six million, 356 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: it favors hershel Walker. Then as you start approaching one 357 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: point eight million, it's kind of swings back the other direction. 358 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: And so, um, you know, the turnout is gonna be 359 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: really important. And I think it goes back to what 360 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: you're just saying. You know, Uh, the way that Senator 361 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: Warnock is I approached this, hitting several cities in one day, 362 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: being active all the way until the last moment, is 363 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: is reflective of what he's trying to do with is 364 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: to bring back as January so they can try at 365 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: the same outcome. What's the what's the deliberation in the 366 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: in the Walker campaign? Uh? What goes behind the method? 367 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: Why not get him out there in front of a 368 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: lot more people? I guess the question, Julian Well, runoffs 369 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: are very different in nature than the general election. Whether 370 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: it's a runoff for the general or a runoff for 371 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: the primary, the campaigns are run in a very different way. 372 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: When it comes to a runoff, you have to get 373 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: your voters back out, You have to get your base 374 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: back out just a few weeks after they already turned 375 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: out to vote for you. So I think that Walker 376 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: strategy is focusing on those people that showed up to 377 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: vote for the general election, and um not as much 378 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: focused on the swing voter because it usually isn't the 379 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: swing voter that decides a runoff. So it is about 380 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: turning out your base again for the second time, and 381 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: I think that's where his focus. How do you get 382 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: those two d thousand voters who voted for Brian Kemp 383 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: in November but did not vote for Herschel Walker. Well, 384 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: Brian Kemp endorsed Herschel Walker and has been out campaigning 385 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: for him and uh, you know, doing a lot with him, 386 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: traveling with him, making phone calls for him, and doing 387 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: everything he possibly could to get out the vote for him. 388 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: So I think that that has helped when it comes 389 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: to a lot of those Kemp Republicans who did not 390 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: necessarily vote for Walker in the general election, but the 391 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: governor is doing everything he can to get those people 392 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: to turn out to vote in this runoff. Fred A 393 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: lot has been made about those two hundred thousand votes. 394 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: What do you make of that? And and did Brian 395 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: Kemp show up too late for Herschel Walker? He obviously 396 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: made some interesting decisions during the general election campaign that 397 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: that could have made a difference. He was herschel Walker 398 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: was sort of the Trump candidate, and Brian Kemp was 399 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: taking care of his own camping. Yeah, so I think 400 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: Julian I would agree with this that when you're advising 401 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: a campaign, when you have a multi candidate field like 402 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: we did in November, Uh, you want your candidate to 403 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: run their race and then if you get into a 404 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: runoff and things work the way that you like for 405 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: them to, then you can worry about someone else. But 406 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't follow Governor Kemp for doing that, 407 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: no more than I would follow a Democrat for doing that. Um. 408 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: And we saw that same dynamic on the Democratic side 409 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: where Stacey Abrams and Senator Warnick didn't really campaign a 410 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: lot together. They had a couple of things here and there, 411 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: but they did not run um to what extent is 412 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: the Abrams machine we were talking about this before you 413 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: came in, versus the Kemp machine helping Raphael Warnock. Right now, 414 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: she did not win the governor's race, but she did 415 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: do a lot of work for him that's still paying off. Yeah, 416 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: for sure. So she hasn't been very visible in this runoff. 417 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: So but in terms of the machine. I would refer 418 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: to more more of the in terms of the infrastructure, 419 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: and so registering over a million voters from four years ago, 420 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: we saw that paid dividends in getting people excited, getting 421 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: people mobilized, raising the level of civic awareness and engagement 422 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: on the part of Democrats, even though you didn't see 423 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: that in November election. But that's there, and Senator Warno 424 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: has been about the tap into that and into your 425 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: previous question about voters. Um, you know the that's the 426 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: prize and this runoffs, and both campaigns have been going 427 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: after them. One of Senator wannox early commercials and one 428 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: that he runs, he's he's running pretty heavily sent it 429 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: around having a person who was a Kemp voter, who's 430 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: actually was a proud Bryant kempt voter say that I 431 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: just can't vote for herschel Walker. So both the Waker 432 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: campaign and We're Not campaign are going after those two, 433 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, for herschel Walker is trying to get them 434 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: to vote for him. For Senate Warnock, just at home. 435 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: You don't have to vote in this election. Boy, what 436 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: this is really something when you consider the I think 437 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: of the infrastructure, the Abrams infrastructure that that Fred described. 438 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: How does the Kemp infrastructure compare with that? Well, I 439 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: think that the Kemp infrastructure is very strong. I think 440 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: that you saw that by the fact that the governor 441 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: did so extremely well in districts congressional districts throughout the 442 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: state of Georgia that favored Democrats. Um. If you look 443 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: at Governor Kemp's members and say, uh, congressional district to 444 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: Sanford Bishops District where Bishop was successful, Um, but Kemp 445 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: was also very successful. I think you have seen that 446 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: he can reach across the aisle and bringing bring in 447 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: a lot of rural Democrat voters as well as really 448 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: reaching out to the farmers. I think the farmers have 449 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: come home to Governor Kemp, and so I think when 450 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: you couple the fact that he has an extremely well 451 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: oiled campaign machine with the fact that he himself is 452 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: out campaigning for herschel Walker, I think it's definitely UM. 453 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a win win for both campaigns. We'll 454 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: see what happens tomorrow. We'll see what happens with the 455 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: weather and how things turn out. But I think if 456 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: Republicans do turn out to vote in the numbers that 457 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: they should, which which would be traditional for Republicans to 458 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: do so, then the Republicans have a shot at this. 459 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: What are we expecting tomorrow night. I'd love to hear 460 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: from both of you. Or is this going to be 461 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 1: decided We're gonna find out lunchtime Wednesday for a while. Well, 462 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: you know, Juliane, if she's bold enough to make that prediction, 463 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: I will, I will applutely let her do that. But 464 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be very close. Um, you know, 465 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: and I don't mean just in terms of how long 466 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: do we get a result. Oh, I think we'll have 467 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: the results tomorrow night, because you don't you don't have 468 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: a lot of absentee votes to count this go around, um, 469 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: the other the absentee in person, so the early votes, 470 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: those are already you know, sort of registered. And then 471 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: so I think we should know, hopefully by nine thirty 472 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: tomorrow at o'clock. This is the only thing on the ballot, 473 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: so there isn't there isn't a reason to really delay. 474 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: We could have a little bit of an interesting thing 475 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: if this falls within a half a percent um threshold 476 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: with that would trigger a recount, and we could be 477 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: facing that, And I think it's very possible that this 478 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: election could be within a half a point tomorrow. So great, 479 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: it's great that you point this out. We're not going 480 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: to have a runoff on the runoff, but you could 481 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 1: have recount, right, that's a fact. What are the odds 482 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: on that, Julie, do you see that happened? I think 483 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: that the odds are are fairly strong for that. Of course, 484 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say for sure that I think 485 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: that that's going to happen, but I think they're fairly 486 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: strong because this is such a razor thin close race. 487 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: So I George is gonna be ground zero for a while. 488 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: Let's hear it for the election workers. Huh, Georgia, how many? 489 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: How many elections does this state need to have? Thank God, 490 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: you have these people volunteering and working to make things happen. 491 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: On the other und we take them all for granted. 492 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: Don't the thankless job that we appreciate? This isn't that 493 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: the truth? Wonderful to have both of you here. Thank 494 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: you so much for your insights. Julianne Thompson, Fred Hicks. 495 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg So Long with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg 496 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: Radio Line from Atlanta. The night before the runoff, and 497 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: we know what the candidates are going to be up to. 498 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: Senator Raphael Warnox still at it. He's doing about a 499 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: half dozen events or something today, is going to be 500 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: at a brewery later on making his final arguments, and well, 501 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: who could blame him? After all this herschel Walker, as 502 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: I mentioned, is making his way through the suburbs. He 503 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: does have an event a little bit later is going 504 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: to be also, I'm assuming taking part in a tell 505 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: A rally that Donald Trump is planning to hold. On 506 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: the age of the Teletown Hall and the tell A rally, 507 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: what exactly does that do for a candidate? The former 508 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: president has held similar calls on the eve of other elections, 509 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: including I believe the Virginia gubernatorial race. Guests who's with 510 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: me in Atlanta? Another member of the family, Mario Parker 511 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: is here, Bloomberg Politics editor. It's like we are six 512 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: time to Georgia. I think, what five elections, six visits? 513 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: That sounds about right. Great to see you here. You 514 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: were down for the primary, you were down for the debate. 515 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: Here you are for the runoff. Does it feel different? 516 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: It does feel different. I think that earlier this year 517 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: the primary, of course, was very suspenseful the debate. We 518 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: didn't know what to expect as well. But this being 519 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: down here, I mean, it really looks like the momentum 520 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 1: that Warnock has that we've read about all the way 521 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: up d C. It's very palpable on the ground here 522 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. So what's the point of a tele rally, 523 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, when you've got somebody calling him from our 524 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: lago I'm assuming is that is that to get turned out? 525 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: Obviously they're not raising money at the stage of the 526 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: game it is. I mean, the former president is literally 527 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: phoning it in, right, So I don't think that uh 528 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: design right, he couldn't come here in person, that that 529 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: was not in the cards, not at all, not at all. 530 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: I mean they tried to his aids, from what we 531 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: understand from our reporting, some of his closest aids try 532 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: to excuse me unsuccessfully lobby him to delay his president 533 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: in November fifteenth presidential announcement until after this race. Right. 534 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: He took a shellacking, he's taking. He's born a lot 535 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: of the blame for the underwhelming uh Mad term performance 536 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: by Republicans. The last thing he wants to do is 537 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: to take the blame for this race as well. Right, 538 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: and the I guess the same could be said for 539 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, who's also not here for a reason. Sure. Um, so, 540 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: you know we've been talking this hour about turnout. Is 541 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: that all that's left here? You're not You're not going 542 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: to be convincing anybody. I'm assuming to make a choice 543 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: between one candidate or the other. The question is do 544 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: you stay home or not? Exactly pretty grim state of 545 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: affairs for some people. It is, it is, it really is. 546 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: And what we're saying is that they're they're both candidates 547 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: are squeezing every bit of the every bit of the 548 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: vote that juice that they can out of their base. 549 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: At this point, you're, as you mentioned, uh Walker has 550 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: been canvassing some of the more Republican bastions of the state. 551 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: War Knock has been all over Atlanta just trying to 552 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: turn out voters. They are particularly black voters as well. 553 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: I mean, a runoff, it's cliche to say, but it's 554 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: the truth. A runoff is based off you have to 555 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: turn out your voters. Voters said, Um, let's reassemble the 556 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: panel here, hang out with us for a little bit. Mario, 557 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: Rick Davis and Jeanie Schanzano or with us as l 558 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: uh as we broadcast live from Atlanta here. Uh, what's 559 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: the point of tell a rally with Donald Trump? At 560 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: this point? Rick? It could it? Could it actually do 561 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: damage to the Walker brand? Well, tell a rally basically 562 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: you invite people who are on a list to get 563 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: on a conference call. And I suspect these are highly 564 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: identified Trump voters who who would have been invited, So 565 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: it probably do no harm. Although just getting Trump in 566 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: the narrative and local news is probably counterintuitive. But I 567 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: guarantee it was because of Trump wanting to play a 568 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: role in this, not because people around herschel Walker thought 569 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: it was a good idea. So how does how does 570 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: Raphael Warnock spin some stories out of this in the 571 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: last twenty four hours? Jeannie, it's hie herschel Walker to 572 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: Donald Trump every chance you get. That's right, And you know, listen, 573 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: let's compare Warnock is gonna end his day with Killer 574 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: Mike at the swag shop barbershop. Would you rather be 575 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: there or would you rather be on the telecall with 576 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: Donald Trump spew hate and anger? So you know, and 577 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: just you know, claiming he wants to you know, rip 578 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: up the constitution. So you know, for Warnock, they have 579 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: to feel, as as Maria was talking about, pretty good 580 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: about where they are right now. Now, all that said, 581 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: they can't take anything for granted. And we've been through 582 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: several election cycles that defied expectations. So if anybody says 583 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: they know what's going to happen tomorrow, none of us do. 584 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: But the numbers so far and the energy look good 585 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: for Warnock, and the more Trump out there the better 586 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: for Democrats. Rick, how much of a problem is Jeff 587 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: Duncan the lieutenant governor. You've got Brian Kemp throwing everything 588 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: behind the herschel Walker campaign. Lieutenant governor goes on TV 589 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: and says he couldn't even bring himself to vote for 590 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: herschel Walker. He walked out of the place the first time, 591 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: and now that he has voted, he chose someone else. Well, 592 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: in political terms, we call this creating a permission structure. 593 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: Oh there's a high value, high profile Republican who's giving Republicans, 594 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: other Republicans a permission to vote either against him or 595 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: not for him, you know, just stay home and and 596 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: is tried and true exercise. I mean, some would even 597 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: say that Um Representative Cheney showing up in Arizona, you know, 598 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: in the last you know, a few weeks of the 599 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: election with an ad saying, you know, I'm a Republican 600 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: who have never voted Democrat in my life, but I'm 601 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: gonna if I were in Arizona and I'd be voting 602 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: Democrat for the governor's race. And of course, look what happened. 603 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: A lot of Republicans did just that. So creating this 604 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: permission structure is a device in politics that tends to 605 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: work very well if you have the right person as 606 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: the messenger. What does Brian Kemp think of that, Mario? 607 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: Oh well, Brian Kemp, I think he's trying to be 608 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: a good soldier, right, a good Republican soldier. Let's not 609 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: forget that he kept his distance away from Mirsia Walker 610 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: during most of the general election until he was okay 611 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: at this point, he's just being a good, good party leader, 612 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: a good state party leader here in Georgia. What's he 613 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: telling Jeff Duncan when the when the cameras and microphones 614 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: are gone, I would give me a break here, guy, 615 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do something. I would love to be 616 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: a fly on the wall for that conversation. Uh, whatever 617 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: he's saying hasn't slowed ducking down at all, right, I 618 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: mean he's only increased some of that messaging yesterday. I 619 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: mean I wasn't on the ground here in Atlanta for 620 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: four hours before I saw her a Warnock ad featuring 621 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: those comments from Duncan. Isn't that it's made for a commercial? Genie? 622 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: You pointed out that Warnox with Killer Mike today. Does 623 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: that speak to the need to get people in Atlanta 624 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: out to vote? What's the strategy? Yeah, to get people 625 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: in Atlanta out to vote, to get young people out 626 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: to vote. We've seen him on college campuses, you know, 627 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: the young The youth vote in in this Uh, this 628 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: special election has been or this runoff, this early vote 629 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: has been a little lower than they want. So they're 630 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: trying to increase that. Young people very important for the 631 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: Warnock campaign. And I have to say on Jeff duncan 632 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: you know one of the fascinating things about that did 633 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: he need to wait in line for an hour to 634 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: realize he was on that ballot or did he know 635 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: in advance? Sounds like a campaign commercial. Yeah, I have 636 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: a hard time with that one. It's it's Ricky the 637 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: lieutenant governor, and you don't know who you're gonna vote 638 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: for when you show up. It did feel like a 639 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: little bit of this was orchestrated. But we've been talking 640 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: about the two thousand voters who split the ticket. He's 641 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: he's going to make that real hard for herschel Walker 642 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: to get them. Yeah, as I said, I mean, he's 643 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: creating a reason to not vote for herschel Walker. He's saying, 644 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm a good Republican, I'm a state office holder, I'm 645 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: a you know, very strong member of the Republican Party 646 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: of Georgia, and I'm not voting for the guy. Why 647 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: should you? And you know, why should you? Is just 648 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: the only thing left out of that equation. Incredible, by 649 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: the way, the direct line Mario was quote one of 650 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: the worst candidates. Get this right, one of the worst 651 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: candidates in GOP history. That's heavy duty. That is heavy duty. 652 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: And and to go back to Rick's point about permission, Yeah, 653 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: you saw one of the places that Walker went today 654 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: was this place called Flowery Brands, Right, he kimp in 655 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: the votes there and and we're not outperformed Abrams. So 656 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: this is a product form. Yeah, I'm so glad you 657 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: came by, Mario Parker with us on the ground in 658 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: Atlanta covering the runoff tomorrow. This is Bloomberg, This is Bloomberg. 659 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: So long with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. We keep 660 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,439 Speaker 1: telling you the race is too close to call here 661 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: in Georgia, and well it is, or we wouldn't be 662 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: doing this runoff election. The polls, though, much like the 663 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: early voting trends, do favor the incumbent Warnock. As I 664 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: look at Real Clear Politics and the poll of polls, 665 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: the RCP average here, and we've gotten so just some 666 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: new numbers in the last twenty four hours. Here. In fact, 667 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: three different polls at it of the pile give Warnock 668 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:54,879 Speaker 1: a a composite spread of three point nine percentage points. 669 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: He's basically four points up. And well, that's gonna be 670 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: inside the margin on most poll Let's reassemble the panel 671 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: for some final thoughts. Here, Rick Davis and Jeannie Schanzano 672 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: looking ahead to tomorrow's runoff. Are these numbers Rick going 673 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: to ring true tomorrow night? Yeah? The only numbers are 674 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: gonna ring true is turnout numbers tomorrow. And uh, and 675 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: I'll be looking for some of these rural counties that 676 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: doesn't usually get the attention that they deserve. But we 677 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: were talking earlier about how you know, Camp overperformed um 678 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: allcomers in c D two. Uh. That's a really good 679 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: indication of whether or not that base Republican vote is 680 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: going to make it and whether or not some of 681 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: those KEMP voters are turning out for for for Walker. 682 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: So my eyes gonna be on the rural, blue collar 683 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: UH mail voter and and the second congressional district specifically 684 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: you've got is on. Yeah, that's a good example, you 685 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: know of where herschel Walker has to do well. If 686 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: he is just repeating where he was you know in 687 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: the general election, not good enough. How do you engage 688 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: this during the day tomorrow, Genie, What are you watching 689 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: other than specific areas like that, whether it's a congressional 690 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: district or a certain suburb. Are you're looking at literally 691 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: at lines, people standing in line. Yeah, and I think 692 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: where they are, um, you know, and I think for 693 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,760 Speaker 1: the Werenut campaign in particular, they are again very focused 694 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: on the youth vote. So around these college areas, these enclaves, 695 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: it's been a little lower than they wanted in this period. 696 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: They want that to be up tomorrow and they think 697 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: college students, young people may get out same day if 698 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: they didn't vote early. So that's what I'm going to 699 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: be watching for. Do we see any movement there which 700 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: would be a good sign for Democrats? Interesting that you're 701 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: you're seeing them both out in the field today. Herschel 702 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: Walker actually added an event for later on uh tonight apparently. 703 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: Or is are these sort of game day calls that 704 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: you make based on what you're seeing and hearing Rick, 705 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: Is it based on any sort of data or does 706 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: a campaign manager just go with the gut the day before. Yeah, 707 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: there's a lot of gut going on twenty four hours 708 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 1: before the polls open up. And uh, you know, you 709 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: hear anecdotes from your field organization telling you, you know, 710 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: got weakness here, an opportunity there, and you don't want 711 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: to leave anything on the table. So yeah, I mean, 712 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: this is this is the least scientific day. All the 713 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: ads have been placed. There's nothing else you can do 714 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: but show up with your candidate to get any kind 715 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: of attention. So really, if if you look at where 716 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: herschel Walker has been today, you can tell where some 717 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: of the places are that he's going to need to 718 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: do well, and apparently it's not Atlanta. They've sort of 719 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: given up on that for good reason, Jeannie, Yeah, they have. 720 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he is trying to go to those rural areas, 721 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: get the vote out there that went for Kemp or 722 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: that went went with Kemp but either stayed with you know, 723 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 1: avoided him, or just you know when when maybe with Walker. 724 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: So they're going to try for that, and it's gonna 725 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: be a hard push, and I think it's you know, 726 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: more hard because he had a much easier schedule over 727 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: the last weekend than did Warnock and he's picked that 728 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: up a bit today. So he's trying to see if 729 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: he can push that through to the end. All the 730 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: curious to see who shows up on morning TV shows 731 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: if either of them do uh somemorrow. Lastly, Rick Davis. 732 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: So those two d thousand votes Republican independence are both uh, 733 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: they're they're probably independence with some soft, you know, likely voters, 734 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: people who otherwise wouldn't have turned out other than to 735 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: show up for for Kemp. So the governor really did 736 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: pull them in. And I don't want to stress them 737 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 1: too much because in the base election, those kind of 738 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: people don't come right, they don't show up for the 739 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: UH for the runoff. So you know, we've already got 740 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: almost two million people voted. UM. You know you had 741 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: UH probably fifty percent turnout turnout in general election. You know, 742 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: how how close can we see those numbers coming in? 743 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,919 Speaker 1: You know, will you have another two million a million 744 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: and a half show up tomorrow. It's gonna be fascinating 745 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 1: to watch this in real time. Of course you'll be 746 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: able to do that and listen in real time right 747 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: here on Bloomberg. Rick and Genie, thank you both. We 748 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: look forward to getting back together on runoff day. We're 749 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: gonna go from here in Atlanta to chase some candidates, 750 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: and we'll have a lot more for you tomorrow, including 751 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: a special conversation with Brad Raffinsburger, the Secretary of State 752 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: here in Georgia. I'm Joe Matthew in Atlanta. This is Bloomberg.