1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles ahead. 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: He got Jack. This is the Big Red Rain presented 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: by Santanford in Gilbert. Harry's Gonna score Touchdown. Slim to 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo, he came 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:23,159 Speaker 1: flying into the backfild. The Rage is brought to you 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Satanford? State Farm? 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm, 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Hacy Cardinals dot com, 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: Slash Podcasts, The Rods, Rising Ud, Temperatureizing, Vision, flurring, Rage, 10 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: taking it over. Here's Paul KELVC. Get the popcorn ready, 11 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a show and Ron will flee. It 12 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: doesn't get any better than that horn. Unleash the farm 13 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: and a big welcome to the Red Sea. Here on 14 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage. Here is hoping that that you're 15 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: week has somehow, some way resembled that of Matthew Stafford's week. 16 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: Actually make that Frat Stafford wolf as Frat Stafford was 17 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: trending on Twitter. You know you're having a good week 18 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: when you have your own Moniker trending. And when then 19 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: Tom Brady weighs in because you know he's been there 20 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: and done that over indulging at a Super Bowl parade 21 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: when TB twelve tweets out, hey, matt mix in a water. 22 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: Trust me, you know you're feeling pretty good. Yeah, the 23 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: debauchery of it all, Paula, you've got to be kidding me, 24 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: right at some point in time, please, will you just 25 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: put it down, walk away from it, don't walk away 26 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: from people that are actually falling around you. Just actually 27 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: put the bottle down and walk away yourself. Paul I 28 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: didn't see though that Matthew Stafford needed any help walking 29 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: away like Tom Brady did at the tree end of 30 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: the parade a year ago. And Wolf, trust me, you 31 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: will get to talk here in a minute. But I 32 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: have a thought I would like to start with. So, 33 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champion, as we know now resides in 34 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: the NFC best and it's up to the Arizona Cardinals 35 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: more than ever right now this upcoming season. And here's 36 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 1: where you need to follow me, because if we reverse 37 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: engineer the NFC from the NFC Championship game back the Niners, 38 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, they're reading the reset button with 39 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: the rookie quarterback Trey Lance, Jimmy G. The G stands 40 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: for gone. He's already said goodbye. So the Niners they're 41 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: out Green Bay already nearly fifty million over the cap. 42 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: Reports everywhere that Aaron Rodgers is gone. Maybe in Denver, 43 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: who knows either way. The Packers they're out. Nobody and 44 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: I mean nobody trust the Cowboys, right, doesn't matter. If 45 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: they have doesn't matter. If they have the most talented roster, 46 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: which they might have had this year, doesn't matter. They 47 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: can't get out of their own way. They're their own 48 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: worst enemy. They're the only opponent really on their own schedule. 49 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: They're out the box, just lost Tom Brady. So enough said, 50 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: they're done. And the Seahawks defense, if you want to 51 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: go that route, some sort of resurrection in Seattle behind 52 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, who, by the way, probably really does want out, well, 53 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: guess what. The Seahawks defense is every bit that bad 54 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: at every level of that defense. So that leaves Ron Wilfley. 55 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals has the only viable threat to save 56 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: the NFC. Stand between the Rams in La repeating and 57 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: where would that happen? That would happen in your own building, 58 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: and that's how it gets worse. So the time is now, 59 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: the urgency is real. The Cardinals have to step up 60 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: and stand between the Rams as a repeat NFC champ. Yeah, 61 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: you know what, Paul, The best thing I think you 62 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: said right there is just Jimmy G. The G stands 63 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: for gone. That's what you pulled out of that that 64 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: rambled right there. That to me was, Hey, listen, you 65 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: know what. It is a year to year proposition. This 66 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: is this is the one thing that we know about 67 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: the National Football League when you start, when you start 68 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: trying to carry over one year to the next year, 69 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: I think that is a dangerous, dangerous proposition. You just 70 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: look at what happened to the Arizona Cardinals this year. 71 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, unbelievable. Seven and oh of course ten 72 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: and two. It's the ten and two number that bothers 73 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 1: me the most, Paul. I mean, that's twelve games, Paul, 74 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: that is that is that's three months of football right there, 75 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: and they were the best team in the NFL by 76 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: way of example. That's what I mean by it being 77 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: a year to year proposition. You just don't know what's 78 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: going to happen from one year to the next it's 79 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: this is the National Football League, and this is one 80 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: of the reasons why it is as popular as it is, 81 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: because you truly can go from worst to first and 82 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: first to worst. You know what, you said it and 83 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: I asked it. It's gonna be a question to Sean 84 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: Jefferson coming up. I buried the lead. Here we are 85 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. 86 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: We are Santan Ford and our special guest tonight is 87 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals receivers coach Sean Jefferson, and we're gonna ask him 88 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: those two words, what happened. So we're gonna talk about 89 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: this season, the way this season finished, his thoughts on that. 90 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: We're obviously going to get his thoughts on his son, 91 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: Van Jefferson, Rams receiver who wins the Lombardi and had 92 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: a baby on the same day Super Bowl Sunday. So 93 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: we're gonna get day. We're gonna get that probably the 94 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: best day in the history of the Jefferson family. Okay, 95 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about all that as it 96 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: went from La and the Rams winning, and then the 97 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: very next day you probably saw they had the handoff. 98 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: They handed off the football the Rams Super Bowl Committee 99 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: in LA handed off to Michael Bidwell, Doug Doocy, the governor, 100 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: and Larry Fitzgerald. Right, so boom, Arizona is on the 101 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: clock for Super Bowl fifty seven. It be February twelve, 102 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. But before we get there, let's talk 103 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: about Super Bowl fifty six. And that's exactly what Drew 104 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: Stanton was doing on the Red Sea Report with our 105 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: Craig Grigolou. And we all know what it came down 106 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: to that final drive. Matthew Stafford a Cooper Cop and 107 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: here's Drew Stanton, the former Cardinals quarterback, just on the 108 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: receiver that he is Cooper Cup. Everyone knows they're trying 109 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: to throw it to him, right Like. That's the thing. 110 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: It's not like he's some like well kept secret around 111 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: what's going on. But because he has the freedom and 112 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: these option routes, he's always going to make the right choice. 113 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: He's always going to be at the right depth of 114 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: where he needs to be. He's always going to do 115 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: all these things. And he's unselfish. He's not one of 116 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: those guys that sitting there worried about it because he 117 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: knows when his plays come he's going to make the 118 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: most of it. The final drive, all of a sudden, 119 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: you could just see him start building momentum and building momentum, 120 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: and you know, much like we saw with Larry the 121 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: course of his career. Here you get the ball in 122 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: his hands and everybody else there's this belief system that 123 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: just elevates of everybody on the team because of it. 124 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: And then you go score, and then you flip it 125 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: over and say, all right, all right, Aaron, go win 126 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: the game for us. There you go. Drew stan on 127 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: the Red Sea Report he mentioned Larry. Would Larry have 128 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: to say, didn't Larry tweet out something onlines of you know, 129 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup props, I have memories, you have the hardware, Yeah, 130 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: you know what you know? That would yeah, that would 131 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: be a good day for Cooper Cup right there if 132 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: you got a text for or tweet from Larry. Of course. Paul, 133 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: you know though, I just want to say this, Um, 134 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: it really wasn't Cooper Cup to me, that really was 135 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: a story of this game for the Rams. For me, 136 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: it was Matthew Stafford. It was Stafford Bally. I mean, 137 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: he did it, Paul, he did it. The narrative surrounding 138 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is dead. The fact that he's not a 139 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: big game quarterback, the fact that he didn't handle pressure 140 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: pack situations very well. That narrative is dead. And think 141 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: of it. This game not only came down to a 142 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: fifteen play seventy nine yard drive would just over six 143 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: minutes ago that resulted in that one yard touchdown pass 144 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: two Cooper Cup to win the game when it mattered 145 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: the most. The fact that it came down to that, 146 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: and that Matthew Stafford delivered that right there, Paul, that 147 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: is the definition of killing a narrative. And you know what, 148 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: he completed all four passes he threw to Cooper Cup 149 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: on that game winning drive. Think about it. They didn't 150 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: have OBJ on the field, they didn't have Tyler Higbee, 151 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: obviously Number eighteen can catch. They had a lot of nobodies. 152 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: And he's still you're right, got it done. Although I 153 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: gotta say, I mean, Cincinnati, when you got the ball 154 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: back in the final drive and it's third and one 155 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: with a Super Bowl on the line, and you're giving 156 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: it to p Ryan, and I mean, run it anywhere 157 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: except in the vicinity of Aaron Donald. And what does 158 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: he do. He runs right into Aaron Donald's gap, and 159 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: then on fourth and one they get in the gun, 160 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: and it's so predictable because now Aaron Donald doesn't have 161 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: to worry about the run and only does his pin 162 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: his ears back and boom, instant lead. He's into the map. Polay, Honestly, though, 163 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: I thought Super Bowl fifty six the fulcrum of the 164 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: football game. The turning point of the game happened when 165 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: the Bengal went ahead and took a shot at Aaron 166 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: Donald early in the third quarter. I'm telling you, man, 167 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, when he jack Joe Burrow out of bounds 168 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: right there, Paul, and suddenly everyone got around him and 169 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: they were jacking Aaron Donald in the face. They awoke 170 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: the sleeping giant. What did your teammates always tell you 171 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: about Lawrence Taylor? Hey, run him alone, leave him alone. Yeah, 172 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: suddenly the Rams had six sacks. They went from one 173 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: sack to six sacks in a blink of an eye. 174 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: By the way, a couple of quick thoughts, because we're 175 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: gonna talk receiving next. Was Sean Jefferson, the Cardinal's receivers coach. 176 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: You're talking about Cooper cup who had no college offers 177 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: coming out of High school. You're talking about Matthew Stafford. 178 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: When throwing a cup in this postseason, his passer rating 179 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: was one forty three point eight. That's the best for 180 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: any quarterback targeting a single receiver in the past five postseasons. 181 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: Think about that when we come back. Cardinals receivers coach 182 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: Shawn Jefferson on the big red rage presented by Santa 183 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: and ford In Gilbert blushed out of the pipe but 184 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: of the right Nun throws back across the middle and 185 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: it's caught in the back of the end zone by 186 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: Hopkins and he got his feet down for the touchdown. 187 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: Quick for over the middle, Hopkins has a catch of 188 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: the tent, turns to his left at the five. He 189 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: hits painter touched down DeAndre Hopkins throws left in the enzl. 190 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: Hopkins us there sliding cats on the tockdown side arms 191 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: it over the little coper a touchdown by DeAndre Hopkins. 192 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: Stuffs up loops and back of the enzel quite open 193 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: his Hopkins and a touchdown off by Hopkins. Hit the tent, 194 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: slips a tackle, runs left to the five into the 195 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: end zone for the touchdown. Throws a bait left side 196 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: of the end zone and in his cart for a 197 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: touchdown by thee hop d Hop fought it looks right, 198 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: throws a deep ball right side in the end zone, 199 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: pen it's caught, hits a touchdown, touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. All right, 200 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: gee hop from Kyler. One of the most potent lethal 201 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: combos in the NFL. And we saw this season what 202 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: the Cardinals offense looked like with and without DeAndre Hopkins. 203 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: As we have a nodding head here in studio and 204 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to all that. But the NFL season 205 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: ended with another combo, Matthew Stafford to Cooper Cup and 206 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: then one final route, a go route, a nine route 207 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: run by Rams receiver Van Jefferson from the field all 208 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: the way to the hospital in LA and the delivery room. 209 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: And a guy who had the front row seat is 210 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: a guy who Van Jefferson. We heard on NFL films 211 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: call him Pops, And I'm guessing we can output the 212 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: word proud in front of Pops. And you're not eating again. 213 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: Sean Jefferson, Cardinals wide receiver coach, is our guest. Just 214 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: tell us about the last week or so and especially 215 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: the aftermath of Super Bowl fifty six. Coach Well I 216 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: was just an unbelievable week for the whole family, leaning 217 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: up to that Super Bowl and just spending a week 218 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: my son just talking about the game, his preparation and 219 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: mindset in the game, and just knowing that, you know, 220 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: his wife is pregnant, you know, expecting the baby maybe 221 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: two weeks the next two weeks or something. So we 222 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: get into the stadium on Sunday, and you know, we 223 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: take our seats and I'm on pins and needles because 224 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, I really want my son to get this ring, right. 225 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I meet myself. I played 226 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: in two Super Bowls lost POFU. So I'm like, okay, 227 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: third times in charm you gotta get this ring. Man. 228 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: I come on, I'm rooting for you. Gotta get a 229 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: championship in the Jeffson family. So it was, it was. 230 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: It was awesome. The game started off off off well, 231 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: they scored, and thanks for going well. And then um, 232 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm there sitting by his wife and and and uh 233 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: and she said before the game, someone had interviewed her. 234 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: Her name is Samaria, and she said, loosely, I'm quoting, 235 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm forty weeks pregnant. I'm not missing the Super Bowl. 236 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: She was hell then on attending, right, yeah, she was, 237 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: she was, and uh yeah, she definitely attended. And uh 238 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: and so we're sitting there and game's going good and 239 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: and I hear this kind of loud grunt and I'm 240 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: like I look over it, and he's like, I gotta go. 241 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my goodness. So me and my wife 242 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: were football junkies, right. So it's me and my wife, 243 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: my youngest daughter, and my sister, who's a nurse from 244 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: Jacksonville was all to the game. And uh. I looked 245 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: up to my wife was like, hey, um, I probably 246 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: need to go with us. He was like, oh no, 247 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm not missing this game. Like, oh my goodness. So 248 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: my youngest daughter and my sister had to take take 249 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: her out, but she left on a stretcher, right yeah. Yeah, 250 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: the m Yeah, the EMC they came and got her 251 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: and and uh and from there, things and things was 252 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: happening fast. It was snowballing and everything and uh and 253 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: uh just watching the game and just watching them come 254 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: back into fashion and win that game. It was just 255 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: social real at that moment. I mean when when they 256 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: won that game, I literally sat there and like I 257 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: can't believe this just happened. My son just got a 258 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: freaking ring. He's gonna be a champion for life. And 259 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, it really didn't hit me. And then so 260 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: we get passed this and going out on the field 261 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: and I ro up to him myself, may champ me 262 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: for life? Man waiting and stuff and and um and 263 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: you know what. NFL Films captured what happened next as 264 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: a PR person for the Rams came up in a 265 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: rush and informed your son Van Jefferson that the moment 266 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: was now here. It is right now. Oh my god, Yeah, 267 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: mommy's gonna have a baby, you know, Yeah, mommy's gonna 268 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: have your brother hospital. And it's an amazing moment because 269 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: you see his reaction. But then he's also realizing, wait, 270 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: I have two young kids here, I'm a father. So 271 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: then he explains it to to a couple of your grandkids. 272 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: What's happening right, Yes, he does. He's sitting there explained. Now, 273 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: they probably don't capture me, but I'm back and I'm like, 274 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: let's go, let's go. What is happening. You're happening fast. 275 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: We gotta move. So so I'm gonna start calling him 276 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: clock kid, because because I mean, he went from that 277 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: field to the elevator isn't like seconds, you know what 278 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's almost like he's stepped into in the 279 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: telephone booths and change frolls. And we were out the 280 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: rams at an unbelievable job holding the elevators. Had a 281 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: car service ready for us there, so we're the driver 282 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: that we had was unbelievable. I got to reach out 283 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: to him, find out who he was. I gott to 284 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: send him a thank you card because he was darting 285 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: in and out of traffic. It was an hour, like 286 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: our fifteen hour, twenty minutes away um from where the 287 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: delivery place was. You know. She she had a midwife 288 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: going to deliver the baby. And so we'll get there 289 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: and my son is texting on the phone and midwife 290 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: is like, okay, we're okay, we're doing fine. So we 291 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: get like thirty minutes away from there, and she calls like, hey, 292 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: where are you. It's like, well, we're thirty minutes out. 293 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: She said, okay, blah blah blah. So another phone call 294 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: come within seconds. She's like, how far are you? Now? 295 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: You better you better FaceTime because this is happening right now, 296 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: a little boy though he's not He don't want to 297 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: stand mommy smelling him he's coming. So so we get 298 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: to within like fifteen minutes away from the delivery place 299 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: and and uh, she's had he had to get on 300 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: FaceTime and watch it and and but it was just 301 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: just unbelievable, experienced the wholy round to be a you know, 302 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: to my son went in a championship and didn't maybe 303 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: becoming a grandfather. Man, it was just unbelievable experience. I 304 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: couldn't have actually anything better. You know that this Super 305 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: Bow Super Bowl Sunday was the best Super Bowl sun 306 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: I experience in my life. And uh, I don't. I 307 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: still haven't kind of fully grasped everything. So because you know, 308 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: I had kind of being here for work stuff like that, 309 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: it still hadn't hit me, you know what I'm saying. 310 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: It still think me and my wife hadn't sitting down 311 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: and we haven't we haven't even discussed it yet, you 312 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it hadn't hit me. I think. 313 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: I think with the next couple of days and something 314 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: like that, we'll make the track back up to LA 315 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: and it probably hit me then, you know, Super grandson. 316 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: I love some of the headlines. A baby and a 317 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: Lombardi was one head there was another headline, oh baby, 318 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: exclamation point. Jefferson wins the super Bowl and welcomes the son, 319 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: and then I'll rip off the opening line from an 320 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: AP story Van Jefferson won the Super Bowl and it 321 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: wasn't even the best part of his weekend. So I mean, 322 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: let's just put it this way. What February thirteen, twenty 323 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: twenty two will go down as an all tim Yeah, 324 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: family history, big time. I'm the worst when it comes 325 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: to the dates and stuff like that, But that's one 326 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: birthday I've never never forgot. Did Samaria see the halftime 327 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: show they up at halftime to show did she make 328 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: halftime or was it before halftime? No, she didn't make halftime. Okay, no, 329 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: she didn't make half time. But it was it was 330 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: it was just an unbelievable experience, and uh, gotta be 331 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: just just so just awesome, you know, the energy in 332 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: that stadium and and everything that was going on there. 333 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: But but when I did make it down to the 334 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: field and I saw the rams how they were celebrating 335 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: everything like that, and it was it was like I 336 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: was trapped. It was about like a minute there where 337 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: I just was just looking at things, and the whole 338 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: time I'm looking at the Ram players, I'm saying to myself, 339 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: this has gotta be us next year. This has gotta 340 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: be us next year. That's what I was saying. I 341 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I was happy for my son and 342 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: and and everything like that, but I'm I'm about a minute. 343 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking at that them, I'm like, this 344 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: has gotta be us. The energy was amazing, you know 345 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The stadium was just everything was just 346 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: just lit up, and I'm thinking, this has gotta be 347 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: us year. And we all know what happened in Week four. 348 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: The Cardinals went into so Far absolutely, Jack stomped the 349 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: Ramps absolutely so. Is there a takeaway from what you 350 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: witness firsthand? Is there any it's a copycat league? Ye? 351 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: Is there anything to be learned from the manner in 352 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: which the Rams won it all? Yeah? I mean, we 353 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: gotta finish better. We gotta finish better, you know what 354 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying. They did. They went through they went through 355 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: the highs and lows of the season, and they was 356 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: able to, you know, to get through those little valleys 357 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: and stuff like that and come through them and stuff. 358 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: That's what we gotta learn. We gotta learn when we 359 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: go through the value, we gotta learn how to come 360 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: through them. We can't we can't be lost in the valley. 361 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: We gotta you know what I'm saying, We gotta, we 362 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: gotta push through them. And uh they they did it 363 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: better than any team minute in the NFL, and that's 364 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: why of the champs. Our guest here on the Big 365 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: Red Rage, brought to you by Santan Ford and Gilbert, 366 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: is Sean Jefferson. Not only what a seventeen year coach 367 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL, thirteen year playing career for those who 368 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: don't know you were a ninth round pick Yeah, by 369 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: the Houston Oil. He played thirteen years, almost two hundred games, 370 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: a dozen postseason games, the two Super Bowls absolutely reference. 371 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: So you're more qualified than anyone I'll talk to answer 372 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: the following question. What happened? Everyone wants to know seven 373 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: and oh ten and two? What happened? Well, we we 374 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: we we encountered some injuries. I think injuries happened to 375 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: us at the wrong time. And you know we we 376 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: we're making a Super Bowl run. You got to kind 377 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: of be hitting on all cylinders health wise and everything 378 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: like that. And I think you know, we we we 379 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: wasn't healthy at the right time. You know, our quarterback 380 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: went down. Uh D. Hop was a major part of 381 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: that because it changed the way the defenses will play us. 382 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: It really did. He's he's such an impact player out there, 383 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: and you know, and usually we have a Hopkins uh 384 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: out there, the defenses usually rolled to his side. So 385 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: and then you have, you know, guys playing other guys 386 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: one on one. You beat you to create mismatches that way, 387 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: and um, you know, by by not having him on 388 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: the field certainly impacted us, It really did. I mean, 389 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: think of the Rams without Cooper Cup, right, yeah. And 390 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: I bring that up because there's a whole variety of stats. 391 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: Obviously on Cooper Cup he won the Triple Crown or receiving. 392 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: But this is one I had not heard before. After 393 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: the season, someone calculated that in the fourth quarter of 394 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: Ram's regular season or playoff games, Matthew Stafford to Cooper Cup, 395 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: he was fifty five of sixty one passing. Wow, just 396 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: to Cooper Cup. That's a ninety percent completion percentage. Seven 397 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: touchdowns on the ear no interceptions just in the fourth 398 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: quarter to Cooper Cup. So I think everybody looks at 399 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: d Hop and Kyler Murray and they see that sort 400 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: of potential. So how do you get there? How do 401 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: you become that sort of lethal combination? Well, I think 402 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: number one, you know, these last two years put pretty 403 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 1: much put a hamper a damper in the off season program, 404 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: off season workout program. So I think now getting back 405 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: to some kind of normalcy with the off season workout 406 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: program and OTAs and stuff like that, I think that's 407 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: when all that stuff is captured in the time and 408 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: the importance of you know what I'm saying that, like 409 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: getting getting reps in and and Kylum Nolan were I 410 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: even look at Hop what we're doing in that situation 411 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: and everything like that. I think by I was having 412 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: a full off season. Now, I think that will help 413 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: us going forward because if you believe a lot of 414 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: the analysts who looked at especially at that fourth quarter 415 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: when they were missing O B J No, Tyler Higbee, 416 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,239 Speaker 1: you know, and then and I mean you you just 417 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: had a bunch of unknowns and Cooper Cup there were 418 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: times he was getting double and triple covered. But if 419 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: you listen to the analyst, Cooper cup was able to 420 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: look at the coverage, read coverage and be immediately in 421 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: sync with his quarterback. Right absolutely, But that that stuff 422 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: happens during the off season. That's where that trusts and 423 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: that's what that that that that chemistry, Uh, it takes 424 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: place to an off season by by reps. You know 425 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I think we can get back to 426 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: some type of normalcy with this NFL off season. Um, Um, 427 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: it would bolt well for us big time Cardinals receivers. 428 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: Coach Sean Jefferson as our guests. So d hop is 429 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: a known other than that, it's Rondelle Moore and then 430 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: TBD to be determined. Right, you're looking at a lot 431 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: of uncertainty right now in your room, aren't here? Yeah, 432 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, we have some guys that's coming up on 433 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: free agency and everything, and and um that scares me. 434 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's you know, this friggs thing. 435 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of nos in the free agency. Um. 436 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: And of course you know, Christen Kirk's one of our 437 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: main contributors. He's he's there. You know, we got Chase, 438 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: We got a bunch of guys. So I have confidence 439 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: in our GM and our owner and our whole scouting 440 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: department and our head coach. Um, Um, I'm pretty sure 441 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: that you know, we're not just gonna let players walk. 442 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: We're not. You're gonna fight like hell for him. And 443 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I got I got a lot of 444 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: confidence in those guys. We'll get it right. We'll get 445 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: it right Rondale Moore, you know, And look, everyone's an 446 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 1: armchair quarterback. I get a lot of people ask me, 447 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: are they gonna target Rondale Moore down the field? More? 448 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: Is there upside there? What do you think the next 449 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: step is for the rookie? App The next step for 450 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: him is you're right, uh talking to more down field 451 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: adding to his route tree. Um, you know it's coming 452 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: in as a rookie. You know, you got de Hobb, 453 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: you got Kristin Kirk, you got aj Green. So he's 454 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: kind of lost in that, you know what I'm saying. 455 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: A boy being a rookie and everything like that. But 456 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that me and Runde Hall 457 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: discussed about growing his routes. We've been able to put 458 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: him outside a little bit more where he can run 459 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: some of those routes on the outside, so his his 460 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: route tree will grow leaps and bounds this year. So 461 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: and again we've talked about how important off season is 462 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: going to be, the workout and ota is going to be. 463 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: That's when the growth come. That's we're gonna take the 464 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: steps and learn how to run those routes. He's a 465 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: phenomenal route runner already, but just learning the little nuances 466 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: of plan on the outside and opposed a plan on 467 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: the inside of the field. How about two other guys 468 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: on the fringe. You saw Antoine Wesley and Cliff Kingsby 469 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: really bullish on Antoine Wesley is a guy from Texas. Second, 470 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: we saw him excel against Dallas in Indianapolis in particular, 471 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: and then Andy Isabella. So tell us about those two 472 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: guys and where you think they fit in and what 473 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: their off season is going to have to accomplish. Well, 474 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: it will look similar to what Rundale also look like. Um, 475 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff is like off seasons for for development. 476 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: Tweets took a step, you know what I'm saying, and 477 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: for and it's all about getting reps. I've got to 478 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: get him more reps, you know what I'm saying. He's 479 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: got talent. We drafted in the second round, so he's 480 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: got talent. I just got to do a better job 481 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: of getting him more reps. You know what I'm saying. 482 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: What do you think it's his role? Andy Isabelle? Ideally? 483 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: What realistically what could be his role? Well? Well, I 484 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: mean kind of like what Rondale did this year, who 485 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: was a gadget guy our screen runner. Um, and Andy 486 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: is super fast, like you can use him in a 487 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: capacity to clear his own out using mapacity for ropes 488 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: down to field. You know. So, so he does have 489 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: a role. I just got to do a better job 490 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: of getting squid Away in that role. Run and DeAndre 491 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: Hopkins tracking from everything, you know, the injury, I mean 492 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: he should be good to go from what we're hearing, correct, yep, 493 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: um U talk to him a couple of times and 494 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: his spirits are good, and um he's looking forward to 495 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: getting back on the field. Tell me as we wrap 496 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: it up here with Sean Jefferson going back to your 497 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: son Week fourteen, Monday Night Football, coming out a halftime 498 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: fifty two yard catch, you know. And I bring this 499 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: up because NFL Films has some rate clips where he 500 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: keeps the football, and he says, I'm giving this to 501 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: my pops. But then on the other sideline there's a 502 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: shot of you and you know, there's a lot of 503 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: words I can't repeat right now. So how about that 504 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: whole dynamic, just you and your son and he's playing 505 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: for one of the team's arch rivals. Yeah, I know it, 506 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: you know, like I talked to some of my colleagues 507 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: all the times. Man, it's gotta be great playing against 508 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: your son twice a year. I'm like, no, it's not 509 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: like the swing of emotions after playing him. I mean, 510 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: I go home, I'm totally like spent. You know what 511 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying, because at one point I want to beat 512 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: the crap out of him, right, you know what I'm saying, 513 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: I'm father. Won't know, Hey, I'm still father, Like I 514 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: leg up on you and you know, and and and 515 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: at the same time I want him to do well, 516 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that Monday night was 517 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: just like I don't know, that Monday night was like 518 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: he caught the test down. I'm like, oh man, because 519 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, you just I'm I'm I'm I'm his father, 520 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: but I'm competitive. I don't like gett my butt beat, 521 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: especially not by my son, you know what I'm saying, 522 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: So so uh yeah, it's just a swing of emotions, man, 523 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: and it's just it's it's the toughest thing that I've 524 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: had to do as a coach to sit there and 525 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: watch my son on the other side of the ball. 526 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Well, I can't. I can't 527 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: root for him because I'm in competition against them again, 528 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: but I wanted to do well. Like I said, I 529 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: may mostly spend after those games. Hey, we know you're 530 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: competitive if you wear cleats as a coach. Were are 531 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: you wearing cleats right now? Coach? By the way I'm 532 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: looking at Okay, how much business do you get business 533 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: from the guys? Do they ras you about the cleats 534 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: or is that just accepting now? And how did that starts. 535 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm my first coaching coaching gig and I was a trot. 536 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: I started to winning clicks out there on the field 537 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: for number one, Like, I like showing my guys how 538 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: I want things done, and I can't do it in 539 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: tennis hughes, you know, flippering and stuff like that. But 540 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: I've ever since day one I've been a coach, I've 541 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: had cliques on them. Like so it's it's it's just 542 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: part of what I do. You know what I'm saying. 543 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: It's just and and and it's just it's just stuck. 544 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: I just I'm not one of these coaches that I 545 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: want to tell guys. What do. I want to show 546 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: guys what I want them to do. You know, once 547 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: I show them, they have no excuses at that point 548 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: if you tell them what I thought you meant this, 549 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: I thought you meant that. No, I'm gonna show you 550 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: exactly what I want and I want you to do it. 551 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So that's another reason why 552 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: I do it. And how critical is that as a coach, 553 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: a guy who did it at the NFL level for 554 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,239 Speaker 1: thirteen years, that's got to bring more buying outould think 555 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: from your room. Absolutely, man, it brings more more credibility, 556 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: you know, to me as a coach. You know what 557 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying, And they know that I've been through the 558 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: grind So like I tell guys, when I'm not going 559 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: to actually do anything that I wouldn't do, you know 560 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying it, But I do expect the high 561 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: level of excellence when we're doing it all right. Well, 562 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, as much as the NFC West 563 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: Okay was represented by the Rams Okay, it just I 564 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: think all of everyone associated with the Cardinals just takes 565 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: gratification that there was a personal connection through you and 566 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: your son and the manner in which it unfolded. So 567 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: is there gonna be a moment here in the offseason 568 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: where everyone gets together and there'll be a Super Bowl 569 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: celebration that you couldn't have after the game? Is that 570 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: gonna happen in the Jefferson family somehow someway? I'm pretty 571 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: sure that will sometime right now, Like I'm in full, 572 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: like I'm in full, like Cardinal Mold Man, I'm in 573 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: frezes Mold. I'm ready for a combine and I'm ready 574 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: to get to OTAs because i mean, just seeing that that, 575 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: when I saw in that field with my son him, 576 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's gotta be us this year. So that's 577 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: the moment I'm in And I'm guessing you're sharing that 578 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: with the guys in the rest of that room. So absolutely, okay, coach, 579 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: thank you, Thank thank guys for having there. You go 580 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: Sean Jefferson, who, yeah, he's probably a knee deep in 581 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: college film right now, watching all these guys getting ready 582 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: for the combine. Well, yeah, there you go, and we 583 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: wrap it up with a head nod as well as 584 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: we continue here at the Big Red Rage presented by 585 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: santan Ford and Gilbert we are satan Ford go to 586 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: throw Murray in trouble, spins out of there to his left, 587 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: being chased by two Vikings, and launches a deep, wide 588 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: open near side of the parties. Mindel mar Cod at 589 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: the thirty twenty at the fifteen ten five clip down, 590 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: Tyler Murray, you are ridiculous, Murray, Madchicks. Seventy seven yard 591 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: tops down pass. Ninety nine point nine percent of the 592 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: quarterbacks on the planet gets sacked. And not only is 593 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray not get sacked rows a touchdown, Nasty Nasty does. 594 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: And we all know that Kyler Murray is nasty. The 595 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: stuff you see in dreams and in video games, but 596 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: not in the NFL. WHOA, that's a great call, Arizona 597 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals radio network pass and wolf the seventy seven yard 598 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: catch and run, and it was a run by Kyler 599 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: Murray as well, just to make way. In fact, I'm 600 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: not sure if that was the exact play, but we 601 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: got anecdotes as the season went on that opposing defensive 602 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: coordinators Ron Wolfley, when they showed film of Kyler Murray, 603 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: they would show some of the plays where he would 604 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 1: extend plays for ten, twelve, thirteen seconds. We saw him 605 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: do it in week one against Tennessee that play there, 606 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: Rondale Moore. It is a big red rage And we 607 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: just had Sean Jefferson on wolf Would you make of 608 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: the Sean Jefferson interview? Wow, Bally, You know, honestly, I've 609 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: got to start with the injuries he was talking about, 610 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: in particular two DeAndre Hopkins right there. I really do 611 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: think Paula, I didn't think it was going to be 612 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: that big of a deal. I'd listen, that sounds crazy 613 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: to say when you're talking about nuke, you're talking about 614 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, one of the best wide receivers in the 615 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: National Football League. Yet at the same time, I thought 616 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray in this offense had so many other weapons 617 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: that they were going to be able to absorb that 618 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: loss of d hop And although they wouldn't be nearly 619 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: as effective, I thought going forward, I thought, surely they 620 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: were still going to be able to go out and 621 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: score points and win games. And Paul, I'll tell you what, 622 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: when d Hop went down, that changed everything. Yeah, you 623 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: heard Sean Jefferson say it. You know what we talked 624 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: about the whole second half of the season. It just 625 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: changed the way defenses played the Arizona Cardinals. And no 626 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: longer we're coverages rolling to his side, and no longer 627 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: does some of the other guys get those one on 628 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: one man to man matchups. Because of it, and for 629 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: whatever reason, the Cardinals just struggled minus d Hop, and 630 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: they struggled mightily and losing five of the last six. Paul, 631 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought that opschematics matter right in 632 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: the way that defenses would try to defend Kyler Murray 633 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: and the Arizona Cardinals. Coverage was not nearly as predictable 634 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: when d Hop went down. Coverage wasn't nearly as predictable 635 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: as when d Hop was out there. I think Kyler 636 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: Murray had cleared up a lot of his reads for 637 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray a lot of times too. You were gonna 638 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: see two safeties high. You were gonna you were gonna 639 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: see two safeties high, and that meant they weren't going 640 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: to be able to jam up the box, and that 641 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: also had an impact on the offense in terms of 642 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: running the ball, especially with James Connor in between the tackles. 643 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: No doubt, Rondale Moore, that was the subject we heard 644 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: there the Highlight and we talked with Sean Jefferson, the 645 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals receivers coach, about Rondale Moore, or the second round 646 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: rookie out of Purdue, and and he confirmed yes, they 647 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: they definitely planned to target him more downfield. They said 648 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: he's already had the conversation Rondel Moore that we want 649 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: to expand your route tree within the offense. Says he 650 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: already is a really good route runner for a young guy. 651 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: But what's intriguing is the prospect of moving him outside more. Yeah, 652 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: that'll be interesting, especially if you then figure Andy Isabella, 653 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: because that was our next question, we if Andy Isabella 654 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: would fill the role perhaps that Rondale Moore occupied this year. Yeah, 655 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see what happens. But Rondel 656 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: Moore is a guy I was so high on Rondel 657 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: Moore early on. Paul, I think we all pretty much 658 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: were on Rondel Moore, and yet at the same time 659 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: I remember saying specifically, man, he's got to get vertical. Vertical, 660 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: he's got to get vertical. If he can get vertical 661 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: and become a vertical threat like a Tyreek Hill, Yes, 662 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, he gets a lot of horizontal stuff, but man, 663 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: the thing that is at the base of Tyreek Hill 664 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: is the verticality of him. He opens everything up underneath 665 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: for the likes of a Travis Kelsey, opens up everything 666 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: underneath and intermediate for a lot of his receivers. Rondelle 667 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: Moore has the ability to do this if in fact, 668 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: they can get him to run nine routes which are 669 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: go routes, run those eight routes which are posts, or 670 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: the corner route, the corner route that is a seven route, Paul. 671 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: If he can run these deep routes and be effective 672 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: at that and run by people, man, that's when it 673 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: gets so good for a guy liked hop yeah, and 674 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: that too high safety shell coverage. Oh yeah, you know 675 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: he talked about. Now boom, that's where you get the 676 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: old phrase to take the top off, right. That's when 677 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: a guy's able to do something like that. So you 678 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: have Rondel Moore and d hop they are really the 679 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: only knowns, the only certainties in that Cardinals receiver room. 680 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: And so we asked Sean Jefferson, Look, it's less than 681 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: a month away free agency. March sixteenth is when free 682 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: agency begins, and we asked Sean Jefferson, just about the 683 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: unknowns right now? You know, we have some guys coming 684 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: up on free agency and everything, and um, that scares me. 685 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's, you know, this friggs thing. 686 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of knows in the free agency. 687 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: And of course, you know, Christian Kirk's one of our 688 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: main contributors. He's he's there. You know, we got Chase, 689 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: we got a bunch of guys. So um, but I'm 690 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: I have confidence in our GM and our owner and 691 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 1: whole scouting department and our head coach. I'm pretty sure 692 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: that you know, we're not just gonna let players walk. 693 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: We're not. We're gonna fight like hell for him. And 694 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I got I got a lot of 695 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 1: confidence in those guys. We'll get it right. Christian Kirk 696 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 1: just under a thousand yards receiving this year former second 697 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: round pick at the end of his rookie contract. I 698 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if there was a lot of interest 699 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: in a receiver in his prime right now, Yeah, Paula, 700 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: I know I'm with you on that one. Right there. Um, 701 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: I think somebody's gonna come in and somebody's gonna make 702 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: an offer to Christian Kirk that the Arizona Cardinals are 703 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: going to be unable to match. This is just a guess. 704 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong. Yet at the same time, I 705 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: want to see him do well. You know what I mean? 706 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: You know, should Kirk the affinity and affection that we 707 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: have for Christian Kirk. I want to see him do well. 708 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: I want to see him get rewarded. Yet at the 709 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: same time, I want to see the Cardinals do well. 710 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: So you're torn, very much like Sean Jefferson. You're suddenly 711 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: torn between wanting to see the best for Christian Kirk, 712 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: who was a local product, of course, and then what 713 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: is the best for the Arizona Cardinals. I would hate 714 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: to lose Christian Kirk. I just think that's probably going 715 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah, I mean, if you know, for example, 716 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: if you know, Rondell Moore d hop and then maybe 717 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: a receiver taken in the first or second round. Maybe 718 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: that other outside guy was some size perhaps to go. 719 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: If you indeed lose Christian Kirk, we'll see what Paul is. 720 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: Can I just jump in and say, you know Antoine 721 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: Wesley as well? Right, there's a guy that is really 722 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: intriguing going forward. Could he fill that role very much 723 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: like an AJ Green on the outside? Could he fill 724 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: that of having a big wide receiver to throw the 725 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: ball down the field too. I don't know, but I 726 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: liked what I saw from Antoine Wesley last year. And 727 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: he's got a lot of competitive fire. I mean, that 728 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: guy is intense. Cliff Kingsbury will tell we saw it 729 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: in camp. I mean he was on the verge of 730 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: a few camp fights as a receiver, which you which 731 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: you rarely. That's always a BLUs ball. That is absolutely college. 732 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: In fact, speaking of when we asked Sean Jefferson, okay, 733 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: is there a takeaway from the Rams winning the Super Bowl? 734 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: Is there anything to be learned? Because he was so 735 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: close with his son and he was there at the 736 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: game and he didn't hesitate. He said an I quote, 737 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: we got to finish better. We can't get lost in 738 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: the valley every season. As his ups in its downs, 739 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: peaks and valleys. We can't get lost in the valley. 740 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: Translate that for us. What do you think he meant 741 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: by that? Yeah, Paula, you just got to be more consistent. 742 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: You have to be able to overcome adversity. That's what 743 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: do you mean. You can't just face the valley and 744 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: not be able to climb out of the valley. You've 745 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: got to be able to face at adverse city and 746 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: overcome it. Finish better. We know, we know exactly what 747 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: that means, Pollie. You think of the last two years, 748 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: many whole two and five, paul And again, I'm not 749 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: going to say the four and seven. I'm gonna look 750 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: more specifically at the one in four finish, which is 751 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: a worse losing percentage is a matter of fact, look 752 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 1: at the one in four because that is a sample 753 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: size where weeks start to consecutively pile up one and four. 754 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: You could just see the Cardinals they were in trouble 755 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: and because of that, POLLI, they've got to finish better. 756 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what Sean Jefferson is talking about. Yeah, 757 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: how about him sharing that when he was down in 758 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: that field, he was so happy for his son well 759 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: once again torn because he's looking at the Rams sand. Yes, 760 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: this has got to be us. Next year, we continue 761 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: with a Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. 762 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: We're talking about next year and how the Super Bowl 763 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: might tie into that. Next on the Big Red Rage. 764 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: In the victory formation, Stafford gets the snap in Goose 765 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: doing me eclipt benches are gonna empty and the Rams 766 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: are gonna win it with the script right out of 767 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: Hollywood and the stars studded Los Angeles Rams all right, 768 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: yet they have won Super Bowl fifty six and traumatic 769 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: coming from behind packing. Wow, I'll tell you what. You 770 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: had a Rams team that really couldn't run the ball 771 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: in that game. They had twenty three carries for forty 772 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: three yards rushing. They didn't have OBJ for a good 773 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 1: majority of that game. No, Tyler Higbee their second and 774 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: third biggest weapons in that offense. But Matthew Stafford and 775 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and then Aaron Donald at the very end, boom. 776 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: They are Super Bowl champions and the next super Bowl 777 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: will be in the AC Super Bowl fifty seven, February 778 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. As we wrap up this edition to 779 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: the Big Rage brought to you by Santan Forward and 780 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: Gilbert Paul KELBC Ron Wolfley, and we saw the approach, 781 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: did we not? You trade it away? Well, we are 782 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: less sneaed at the parade and what do you say? 783 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: Bleep those picks right, and he's wearing the T shirt. 784 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: So it's Jo settled out. It's a copycat league, Ron Wolfley. 785 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: Do you expect other teams to follow this sort of 786 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: blueprint where you go after the superstars, you trade away 787 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: the unknown for the proven, and then just fill in 788 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: your roster after that. Yeah, no, Polly, absolutely. It is 789 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: a year to year proposition. The day of trying to 790 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: build a dynasty truly is non existent in the NFL anymore. 791 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: It is a year to year proposition. You do whatever 792 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 1: you can to feel the best team year in and 793 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 1: year out. Yes, you're gonna have a nucleus of players, 794 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: there's no denying that. But man, you've got so much 795 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: more turnover than you've ever had before. How close do 796 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: you think the Arizona Cardinals are right now? We heard 797 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: that call from Westwood one and Kevin Harland. I mean, realistically, legitimately, 798 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: how close are the Cardinals? I think a lot of us, 799 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: including yours truly are confused because they just hammered the 800 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 1: Rams in Week four. They didn't play all that well 801 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: in Week fourteen, barely lost at the end. Kyler had 802 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 1: no touchdown, passes, two picks. They still almost won and 803 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 1: went down to the final possession. Then obviously the playoff 804 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: loss was lopsided. So I'm trying to figure out how 805 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: close how much ground did the Cardinals have to make 806 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,720 Speaker 1: up on the Super Bowl champion. Yeah, you know, honestly, 807 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: BALI it just ten and two happened. That happened that much. 808 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: I do know they were the best team in the 809 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: National Football League. Ten and two happened now for a 810 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: lot of different reasons, and I think injuries are certainly 811 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: one of them, but for a lot of different reasons. 812 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: I think the lack of leadership down the stretch factored 813 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: into this team. And they're finished, they're one and four finish, 814 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: they get factored into that, Paulie. But you know, once again, listen, 815 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: this is a year to year proposition, and you've got 816 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 1: to continue to hope that picks like Isaiah Simmons right 817 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: and Zavian Collins, that these guys are going to be 818 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: able to step up next year and really make some 819 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: massive strides going forward. And Rondale Moore is another guy. 820 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: I think some of these young guys have got to 821 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: step up and take on a new role, a dynamic 822 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 1: role offensively or defensively going forward. Paul all Right, Cliff 823 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: Kingsbury the day after the playoff loss, and he just 824 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: hit zoom out, look big picture and going forward, what 825 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,720 Speaker 1: exactly is the game plan? The head coach, Cliff Kingsbury, 826 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of work to do and we 827 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: want to be better and finished strong on all those things. 828 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: But we definitely improved dramatically in the first three years 829 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: and we're hoping to do the same next year, and 830 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to. The NFC West is a challenge 831 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: year in and you're out with great players and great teams, 832 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: and we got to make some real progress that we 833 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: want to keep up. Yeah, what the SEC is to 834 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: college football, the NFC West is to the NFL. There's 835 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Next up, you're gonna get the 836 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: combine the first week of March, and then mid March 837 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: you're gonna get free agency. Ron Wolfley. The Athletic put 838 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: out a ranking of the top seventy five free agents 839 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: that are going to be available. Three Cardinals. Now, somehow 840 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: James Conner, a Pro Bowl running back, did not appear 841 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: on the top seventy five free agents. So okay, good ball, 842 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: not exactly go ahead ball, I hope nobody, Yeah, nobody 843 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: notices right, everybody forget about James conn I think you 844 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: see here, Paul, Yeah, number six, Chandler Jones, number thirty one, 845 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk number fifty seven. Zach Ertz, Yes, you're Steve Kime. 846 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 1: What sort of order of importance would you put on these? 847 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: Penny Man? You know what, Paul, I really don't know 848 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: how Steve would feel about this. I will tell you 849 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: right now. My own thought is they need to get 850 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: an offensive guard, Paul, and if it is a free 851 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: agency PAULI is at via draft pick. They need an 852 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: offensive guard. In my opinion, they need a wide receiver. 853 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: In other words, they need to protect Kyler Murray, especially 854 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: the interior pocket. The interior has got to get more solidified. 855 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: They got to find a way to bring back Justin 856 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: Pew even though he's under contract. There's a weird situation 857 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: going on with him where the contract that they're gonna 858 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: have to re up him they need to protect Kyler Murray. 859 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: Maybe you draft a offensive guard at number twenty three. 860 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: The wide receiver. You got to give Kyler Murray more options. 861 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: You've got to find a wide receiver and then Paully, 862 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: you got to bring a tight end in. Who's a 863 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: two way guy. This is this is I've talked to 864 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: you about this before. But you need a tight end 865 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: and run down situation first and ten second and one 866 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: to six that you can line up and run the 867 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,760 Speaker 1: ball or throw the ball. They were at their best 868 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 1: when they had Max Williams as that tight end. Yeah, 869 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 1: that was an underrated loss. And you've pointed out out 870 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 1: for a long time and aptly so you're absolutely right 871 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: on that one. I mean, protect that quarterback, yes, I 872 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: agree with you. Get to the get to the quarterback. Yeah. 873 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones could be act. They tagged him once upon 874 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: a time, and then a couple months later they came 875 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: up with a contract extension and Darren Urban pointed out 876 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: an acy Cardinals dot Com if you tag Chandler Jones 877 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: would be just over eighteen million. Is that feasible? Is 878 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: that doable for a team that's just slightly over the 879 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: cap right now? I don't know what sort of attention 880 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,439 Speaker 1: will a thirty two year old pass rusher get. Yeah, 881 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 1: Paulie know that. I think he's going to get attention 882 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 1: on a one or two year deal, right there, Brot 883 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 1: you know, um, I kind of like that right there, 884 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: Go ahead and do it. If you have to tag him, 885 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,919 Speaker 1: go ahead and bring bad chant Man one more time, 886 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: one more dance. Two quick reminders the airs on a 887 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals season. To take a priority list, just go to 888 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: Acy Cardinals dot com slash Priority lists for more information there. 889 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: The Dave Pash podcast about suns Ford mcale bridge is 890 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 1: available now wherever you get your podcasts on Twitter at 891 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 1: pashpod special. Thanks Jim, I'm andro Cody Fincher of course. 892 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 1: Sean Jefferson, Cardinals receivers coach for Ron Wolfe on Paul KELBC. 893 00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: This has been the Big Red Rage presented by sa 894 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 1: A Stanford in Gilbert. Number one kil You've been listening 895 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,280 Speaker 1: to The Big Red Rage presented by Santanford in Gilbert? 896 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,240 Speaker 1: Are you? Santanford State Farm? Talk to an agent today 897 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 1: at eight hundred State Farm and by Arizona Cardinals podcasts. 898 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,839 Speaker 1: Visit Acy Cardinals dot com slash podcasts. This has been 899 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,479 Speaker 1: an exclusive presentation of the Arizona Cardinals football club