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Speaker 1: And welcome to the No Dunks Podcast on the Athletic Network.

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Speaker 1: It's Thursday, July thirtieth. Happy NBA restart day everyone. I'm

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Speaker 1: Big day for us at No Dunks Tonight, following the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got to bring a fans on. Surely then

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Speaker 1: Like it's just yes, that's exactically what it looks like

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Speaker 1: I always was happy about having a knee my own

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Speaker 2: Yeah, try and task didn't show up too often, didn't

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Speaker 2: That's another great ig live right there? You know, one

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Speaker 2: It's a smart move, you know, from the team's perspective,

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Speaker 3: We basically don't have to because he is a restricted

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Speaker 3: But yeah, if you're BAM's camp, you're kind of like,

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Speaker 1: If he's worth it.

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Speaker 3: Is Bam a MAX guy. I don't think he's an

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Speaker 4: Leeve you hate handing out the max? Do you just

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Speaker 4: you know, we'll creep it down a little bit and

433
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,360
Speaker 4: he'll say, WHOA, I'm a starter for my first year.

434
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 4: This is my first year as a starter. I was

435
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,920
Speaker 4: an all star, sure, but I don't know this certainty

436
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,160
Speaker 4: of getting it a little bit lower like the Heat

437
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 4: have done. That's how they got Lebron Chris and Chris

438
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 4: Bosh and Blaine Way. It was weird calling him Chris

439
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 4: just Chris. That's how we got all those guys to

440
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 4: take a little bit less money. I think they could

441
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 4: do the same with Bam right now, so I think

442
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 4: maybe financially it would be smart to do it. But yeah,

443
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 4: the cap hold, I guess makes sense because reducing that

444
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 4: cap hold because they've got Kelly Olinik that they're paying,

445
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 4: and that's a cap hold. A couple guys like that

446
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 4: that aren't playing all that much. The Andre Goodala contract

447
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 4: not looking so good right now. They signed them to

448
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 4: that two year extension essentially after trade him from Memphis,

449
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 4: so they're kind of they've kind of hurt themselves with

450
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,640
Speaker 4: other deals, so now they're I guess, trying to show

451
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,880
Speaker 4: themselves up a little bit with with all those Larry

452
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 4: Kuhon intricacies in the salary cap world.

453
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Speaker 1: Hey, you may not be a Larry Kuhn, but you're

454
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: a Kevin Pelton to me, man, I'll tell you that.

455
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 4: Give me a Danny LaRue.

456
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: No, I could have gone Danny LaRue you're right, You're right,

457
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: you're right, all right. Well, from one Florida team to another,

458
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 1: here we got ourselves a trade rum tray, or at

459
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 1: least another one, or a trade roomer that's resurfaced, I

460
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 1: guess is a better way to put it. According to Forbes,

461
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 1: Sean Devinie sources, the Orlando Magic's Aaron Gordon will most

462
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 1: likely be the biggest name traded this off season. Quote

463
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 1: this anonymous Eastern Conference executive. He's a good gamble. He's

464
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 1: only twenty four end quote all right? Up or down

465
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: on the Magic trading Aaron Gordon this off season? Whatever

466
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 1: the hell off season even means anymore? But what do

467
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: you got tasks? Is he gone?

468
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Speaker 4: I think it's time. I think it's time for Aaron

469
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 4: Gordon to be dealt. He's a solid player, but I

470
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 4: think he'll always believe that he's a superstar if he

471
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 4: plays in Orlando. And I'm trying to psychoanalyze the guy.

472
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 4: But and I'm not trying to get a lot from

473
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 4: these scrimmages, but watch this. If you watch the scrimmages,

474
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 4: he plays like he's a superstar, takes every shot that

475
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 4: he wants, and maybe growing up six years in Orlando.

476
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 4: He feels like he can do that, but it's not

477
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 4: gonna work. It's just it's not gonna be a great

478
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 4: team with him being that type of role. And people

479
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 4: have written about Zach Low has written about and we've

480
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 4: talked about he should be a Draymond Green type guy

481
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 4: like work off other people, be an incredible defender because

482
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 4: he is that athletic. And I think he needs a restart.

483
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 4: I think the Magic need a restart. I don't know

484
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 4: how much they get for him, but I think to

485
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 4: get the most out of himself and the most out

486
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 4: of their team, I think it is it's time. Even

487
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 4: though it feels weird to be trading such a talented

488
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 4: guy from a roster that doesn't have super talented dudes

489
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 4: up and down the roster. I mean there they're fine,

490
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 4: but it would be weird, But I think it makes sense.

491
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 3: What do you think, Lee, Yeah, Aaron Gordon's one of

492
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 3: those players that has all these sort of flashes of

493
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 3: potential in the world. Again, the athleticism is great, you know,

494
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 3: he sort of improves his three point shooting at the

495
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 3: start of the season, but then it kind of tails

496
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 3: off as the season goes along. And when you see

497
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 3: him have some of those games where he you know,

498
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 3: he puts up twenty eight points or whatever, you think, Man,

499
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 3: he could be so special, But it's the consistency. It's

500
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 3: almost like a Jeff Green type of guy. You know,

501
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 3: like very very good on a good when he looks good,

502
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 3: he looks great. But he just goes games, you know,

503
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 3: five ten games in a row where you sort of think,

504
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 3: where is he?

505
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 2: What's he doing?

506
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 3: Is he an offensive player? Is he defensive player? Is

507
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: he a facilitator? Can he create for himself? Is he

508
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 3: a three point shooter? Is he a stretch for Have

509
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: all these questions because we just don't quite know what

510
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 3: he is. Having said that, I do think a change

511
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 3: of scenery could really benefit him because he's been in Orlando.

512
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 3: They've only made the playoffs once. Maybe they make it

513
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 3: again here in this little situation. But maybe he just

514
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 3: needs a new coach, new team, new surroundings, and maybe

515
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 3: someone will bring out those skills in him and highlight

516
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 3: them rather than trying to sort of fit him into

517
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: whatever position they need him for. Because I don't know

518
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: if he's if he's a stretch four, or if he's

519
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 3: just an oversized three. He sometimes sort of looks like

520
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 3: a bit of both of those guys, So he's got

521
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 3: the talent. I definitely would take take a risk on

522
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 3: him because he's young enough still that you can mold

523
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 3: him into something else. But he's an inconsistent player on

524
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 3: an inconsistent team, and I just think his time in

525
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 3: Orlando is coming to an end sooner or later anyway,

526
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 3: because he's been in rumors now for at least two seasons,

527
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: probably even more so, it's just a matter of time

528
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 3: before they trade him anyway.

529
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: Feels like we've talked about Aaron Gordon being treated a

530
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: couple times here on No Dunks. He makes about thirty

531
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: five million total over the next two seasons, so not

532
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: a crazy, crazy contract trade. Do you think he'll he'll

533
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: get moved this offseason?

534
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, it's got to be Himmervuchevic and Vujevic

535
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 2: was just signed to a huge deal last summer. You're

536
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: talking about Asian oversize three? Is he has stretch four?

537
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 2: Maybe the guys are five. You know, he doesn't have

538
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: a super consistent outside shop. People play a lot smaller

539
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: these days. He's got the athleticism to be able to

540
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: protect the rim. I wonder if a team could take

541
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 2: a chance on him and say, yeah, he could be

542
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 2: our Draymond Green, our PJ. Tucker, a strong, stout guy

543
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 2: who maybe isn't very tall, but he can always jump

544
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: up there and help out at the rim because he's

545
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 2: no doubt better inside than he is playing from the perimeter.

546
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: And it just doesn't make sense to me to have

547
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon, Jonathan Isaac and Vucevic like those are probably

548
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 2: your three best players, and at the very least they

549
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 2: should all be playing four or five. You know, I

550
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: don't just don't think that Aaron Gordon ball handler experiment

551
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 2: has really worked out on the perimeter. So wherever Gordon

552
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: ends up next, the team has to have a plan

553
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: for him to be more of a facilitator, be more

554
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: of a big guy. I think, you know, maybe they

555
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: use him a little bit like Ben Simmons is being

556
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 2: used as a power forward in Philadelphia, getting the ball

557
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: at the elbow, that kind of thing. Because the farther

558
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: his game stretches from the hoop, I think, the less

559
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 2: effective he is. I think he can still be an

560
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 2: impactful defender. The Magic have been a good defensive team

561
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: and he's been a part of that, no doubt about it.

562
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 2: But it just doesn't seem to be working there. I

563
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: think he needs somebody that's really going to be able

564
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 2: to set him up, and the Magic just haven't had

565
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: good enough guards while Aaron Gordon has been playing in Orlando,

566
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 2: So wherever he's at, I think he's got to be

567
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: playing a little bit more like a big guy and

568
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: he's got to play with a guard who's gonna set

569
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 2: him up.

570
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: Well, let's play a little who says no? I saw

571
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: Andy Bailey a bleacher report. He had some potential deals

572
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: that he was chucking out there. I picked two of

573
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: them I thought were somewhat interesting. The Spurs, Let's say

574
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: they traded for Aaron Gordon DeRozan if he picked up

575
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: his and he probably will his nearly twenty eight million

576
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: dollars player option for next season. A DeRozan for like

577
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon and al Faarukaminu to to you know, to

578
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: make the books happen. Who says no? What do you magic?

579
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 4: Magic say no?

580
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: The Magic say no? To give us more? Okay, so

581
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 1: you don't want you know, the Magic do need scoring?

582
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean they could use a score and DeRozan can't

583
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: do that.

584
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 4: Okay, it's just an older guy. Okay, okay, what about

585
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 4: this one?

586
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: This one, this one's a little uh, a little more interesting.

587
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: Maybe the next package a deal for Aaron Gordon. You

588
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: talked about it task, you know, you'd love to see

589
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: him in like a like forget being the star. Maybe

590
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: you're like the second even better, the third guy on

591
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: a team.

592
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 4: Well an hour time, this is sexy.

593
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: The Nets trade Spencer Dinwitty, there's your score maybe for

594
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: Orlando at the guard and then you'd have to probably

595
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: throw in like Amosa and a Claxton for Aaron Gordon.

596
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: It would probably take a pit coming back maybe the

597
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: Nets to do that. What do you think of that?

598
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: Something package around Dinwitty for Aaron Gordon.

599
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 4: I'm salivating. That's getting tasty.

600
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: Okay, like that a little bit better.

601
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 4: I think that makes sense. What do you guys think?

602
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 4: I think that logically it makes sense. Aaron Gordon playing

603
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 4: with KD and and Kyrie.

604
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think the Nets are going to

605
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 3: try to move on anyway from someone like Spencer or

606
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 3: Karros Laverte anyway when Kyrie and KD come back. So yeah,

607
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 3: I think Aaron Gordon in that sense would be a

608
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 3: nice little upgrade or if you like, for a position,

609
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 3: because he could be just that guy. Just run the floor. Man,

610
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: you'll get baskets, you'll get your shots, you'll get your opportunities.

611
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: You're not going to be the guy we look at

612
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: to try to get twenty points a night, but you

613
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 3: might get that anyway if you just play your role.

614
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, and if you're the Magic, I'm just trying

615
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: to think of their backcourt. You know, forty A is there,

616
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 3: Markel falls baby, oh yeah, Fults is there, so Spencer

617
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: so a little bit of a log jam there as

618
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 3: well for them. But Dinwoody has shown he can come

619
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 3: off the bench. He might not like that, might not

620
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: be his preferred role, but if he was to embrace it,

621
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: I like that for Orlando, giving them another scorer coming

622
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 3: in as their second unit guy.

623
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: Yeah he needs scoring. He could do that. What do

624
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: you think Trey finally on that one?

625
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: I think the Magic would want more than Spencer Dinwiddie.

626
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: You know, Aaron Gordon was a top five peck and

627
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: he's still got the top five pick pedigreed Spencer Dinwiddy

628
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: We love him, but does he have as good of

629
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: a rap around the league as he does on the

630
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: basketball Internet. I'm not convinced. I also don't necessarily think

631
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: that they need another sixth man. They've got Terrence Ross.

632
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: You know, they got to gave him come in and

633
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: score fifty off the bench. So you're getting another one

634
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: of those guys. You're getting another Terrence Ross for Aaron Gordon.

635
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: Hypothetical. No one, well in this. I think Dinwiddie would

636
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: be starting for the Magic if they made some sort

637
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: of move like this. Yeah, but I think so interesting.

638
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: And whether or not he'll be the biggest name traded

639
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: this offseason, that's interesting, Like will Kevin Love get moved?

640
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: Will you know Bradley Beal? I highly doubt it. They're

641
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: gonna want to see Beal.

642
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: And wall zach Luie who says no for zach Lavine.

643
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe just the biggest name move will

644
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: be a top five pick if the Warriors grab one,

645
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: which they should, and they look look to move on

646
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: from that, we'll see. We'll see, all right, let's keep

647
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Speaker 1: it going here. The Athletic sam Amic reported last week

648
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Speaker 1: that kneeling was likely coming when games resumed tonight, and

649
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Speaker 1: that the NBA would not discipline players who protest peacefully

650
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Speaker 1: and respect of respectfully. Brad Turner of the LA Times.

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Speaker 1: He doubled down on that report, saying that the eight

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Speaker 1: meeting to discuss kneeling when players starts, so we're likely

655
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Speaker 1: going to see this tonight. I would I would assume

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Speaker 1: are you up or down on NBA players kneeling during

657
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Speaker 1: the national anthem on opening night? If not beyond lely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely up on this. I mean this is I

659
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Speaker 3: know it's against the rules officiallyite of Neil for the anthem,

660
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Speaker 3: but things are so different now and the NBA is

661
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Speaker 3: trying to embrace the social justice movement and this. If

662
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Speaker 3: players feel comfortable doing it, then they should be allowed

663
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Speaker 3: to do it without any repercussions whatsoever. If you don't

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Speaker 3: want to do it, don't do it. If you feel

665
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Speaker 3: you want to do it, then go straight ahead. I mean,

666
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Speaker 3: longtime listeners of our show will know I'm anti anthem

667
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Speaker 3: before games anyway. I don't mind doing it once before

668
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Speaker 3: this resumption and maybe once before the finals. But you

669
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Speaker 3: don't need to do it for every single game. It's

670
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Speaker 3: just a complete waste of time. And it's one of

671
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Speaker 3: those things that people try to try to use it

672
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Speaker 3: as some sort of sign of like, well, if you kneel,

673
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Speaker 3: you're not being patriotic, when I think it's actually the

674
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Speaker 3: opposite of that. I think if that's what it means

675
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Speaker 3: to you and the anthems on, then you should be

676
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Speaker 3: able to do it without anyone judging you for that.

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Speaker 3: Everyone has a different reason. I mean this goes back,

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Speaker 3: of course to Colin Kaepernick and him not even being

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Speaker 3: in the NFL. He's basically been banned from the NFL

680
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Speaker 3: because he kneeled before the anthem, and that's completely the

681
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Speaker 3: wrong approach to take. If people feel that this is

682
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Speaker 3: what they need to do during the anthem, they should

683
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Speaker 3: be able to do it when the anthem's done, we

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Speaker 3: just move on. Because it's creating a situation where people

685
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Speaker 3: have probably not done it in the past or fear

686
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Speaker 3: that it might cost them a job in the league.

687
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Speaker 3: And I just think that's absurd. So for me, go

688
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Speaker 3: ahead do it and also remove the anthem from before

689
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Speaker 3: every single game anyway, because I just don't think we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what happened to make Muda Aduorouf was

692
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Speaker 2: he was suspended back in the day. But I think

693
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Speaker 2: this is great. I think it's good that the players

694
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Speaker 2: have gotten together and come up with some sort of

695
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Speaker 2: a plan to have on opening night. But I kind

696
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Speaker 2: of don't think it's going far enough. WNBA players are

697
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Speaker 2: leaving the court. The league has already come out and said, yeah,

698
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Speaker 2: it's okay, you can kneel. It's already approved. Is it

699
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Speaker 2: as much of a protest in that way, I don't know.

700
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Speaker 2: When you see what the WNBA players are doing literally

701
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Speaker 2: leaving the court and then after the game pulling a

702
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Speaker 2: Lee Ellis and calling for the anthem to be banned

703
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Speaker 2: from before every single one of their games, that's pretty

704
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Speaker 2: powerful too. So this is a small step for the NBA,

705
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Speaker 2: and it will definitely raise a ruckus. If you remember

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Speaker 2: that even as a kid. I'm not quite understanding it

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Speaker 2: as much as I do now, So it'll be big

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Speaker 2: time news, Tess.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to it because it's not

711
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Speaker 4: only going to be the Pelicans and the Jazz players,

712
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Speaker 4: but I think the coaches are going to get involved

713
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Speaker 4: as well. And so the swell of support from the

714
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Speaker 4: NBA front office, from the players association is real. It's palpable.

715
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Speaker 4: You could feel it. Everyone is on the same page.

716
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Speaker 4: Unlike what happened in the NFL years ago.

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Speaker 3: This is.

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Speaker 4: The w NBA definitely powerful seeing that scene. But I

719
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Speaker 3: You know.

721
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Speaker 4: ESPN reported that the Pelicans and the Jazz, both teams,

722
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Speaker 4: all the players will kneel around the Black Lives Matter

723
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724
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Speaker 4: You're going to see that, and the coaches are going

725
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Speaker 4: to join them as well. So it's to me, it's

726
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Speaker 4: sending a clear message to everybody out there watching that hey,

727
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Speaker 4: we care about people not dying. And I think it's

728
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Speaker 4: as basic as that. And I understand even like when,

729
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Speaker 4: for instance, Nike did the whole Collin Kaepernick campaign and

730
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Speaker 4: fans were outraged at times, there was people burning shoes

731
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732
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Speaker 4: care more about what the hell is going on in

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Speaker 4: this country, and that's what the basketball the NBA does

734
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Speaker 4: as well. And whether or not some fans are alienated,

735
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Speaker 4: that could happen, but the issue is far bigger, and

736
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Speaker 4: I think I think everyone is sort of on the

737
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Speaker 4: same page, and I think that's clear. I think this

738
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739
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Speaker 4: forward to the visual of it happening tonight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I am as well. I'm obviously up on this.

741
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Speaker 1: I actually think, like you were saying there, Trey, I

742
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743
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744
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Speaker 1: of protests from either teams, the NBA players whatever. I'll

745
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Speaker 1: be I'll be flabbergasted if it doesn't happen. And it

746
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean we should know about it in advance. It

747
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Speaker 1: should be the opposite, you know what I mean. So

748
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Speaker 1: And you know, I even threw it out there. I'd

750
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751
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752
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: you know, demanding justice for Brehonna Tailor and stuff like that,

753
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Speaker 1: continuing to do so, asking the media to continue to

754
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Speaker 1: do so. I just wonder if these players, with the

755
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756
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Speaker 1: actually restart here will there be even more extreme like, Hey,

757
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758
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Speaker 1: out until something happened. I mean, I know that sounds

759
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Speaker 1: far fetched, and I'm sure that would upset tiny people,

760
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Speaker 1: But how far are some of these players willing to

761
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762
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763
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Speaker 1: So we gotta ask it. We'll put it like this,

861
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: up or down on fresh cookies, you know, straight out

862
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: of the oven being better than brownies. Are you up

863
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: on that statement or down, Tassie.

864
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 4: I don't care about the fresh part whatsoever. Cookies are

865
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 4: better than brownies. Why is this even a question? It's

866
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 4: you don't have to throw that caveat on it. Cookies

867
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 4: are better. There are way more variety of cookies than brownies.

868
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 4: There's just there's a whole world out there of cookies.

869
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: A standard chocolate chip, your peanut butter's, your snicker doodles,

870
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 4: your cowgirls, your toffee bits, your oatmeal raisins. A brownie

871
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 4: is a frickin brownie. I would say say, the best

872
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 4: brownie isn't even a brownie. It's blondie, way more tasty.

873
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 4: Google it, do a little Google. Put the word cookie

874
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 4: in Google. Put the word brownie in Google. There are

875
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 4: eleven billion hits for cookie, two hundred and fifty seven

876
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 4: million for brownie. So cookies are forty times more popular

877
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 4: than brownies. I mean, it's not a fair fight. When

878
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 4: you this this versus was just not fair like, well, okay,

879
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 4: hold on too much.

880
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: There's too much world.

881
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 4: There's too much of a cookie world out there.

882
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: What about a cookie dough ball?

883
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 4: It kills a frozen cookie dough ball kicks a brownie's ass.

884
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 4: Brownie is boring.

885
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: While you're talking cookie dough over brownie. I was with

886
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: you up until you want cookie does.

887
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going extreme.

888
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm going extreme.

889
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 4: I'm subtexting the versus with a cookie dough ball, little

890
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 4: text on or tweet under there. I'm subtweeting. I'm subtweeting

891
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 4: that being said. They're back.

892
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: Okay, So well, do you sere your opinion changed? Task

893
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: if it is just chocolate chip cookie versus a brownie,

894
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: does your opinion change at all? Are you still taking

895
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: just the chocolate chip cookie?

896
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 4: No?

897
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: No, no, no cookie.

898
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 4: Chocolate chip cookies will box the crap out of a brownie,

899
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 4: knock them to the ground in a second.

900
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: You disagree, chicking your head.

901
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 3: See I took this as a one chocolate chip cookie

902
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 3: versus one brownie. Brownie takes a cookie just to school

903
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 3: every day. Man, brown is way better. Cookies need to

904
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 3: add the chocolate in there because otherwise they're kind of

905
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 3: blamed the brownie is just all chocolate. That's It's a decadent.

906
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: It's so much, you know.

907
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 3: And the thing is, you mentioned all those cookie facts there,

908
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 3: tasks about the billions more. It's because they need all

909
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 3: that support there, because the cookie alone needs to be

910
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 3: dressed up. The brownie is just a chocolate, lushy, chewy,

911
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: nuggety thing that you just love.

912
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 4: And you know you're adding things you added nuggety.

913
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 3: I'm just saying when you when you eat it, you're biting,

914
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 3: You're going. I know I shouldn't be like this is

915
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: just too much for me, but I'm gonna enjoy this one.

916
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: And that's it.

917
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: Where's the cookie? I think you need a few more

918
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: than one. You need three or four to really get

919
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 3: the full experience. This is a brownie by itself in

920
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 3: a one on one contest with one chucklate chip cookie.

921
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 3: That brownie is walking on with a w easily.

922
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is a battle here.

923
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: So Trey, where do you fall in this?

924
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: Sounded like you were leaning towards cookies. Has h Lee

925
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: persuaded you to go to team Brownies?

926
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: Well, you guys know, I'm team Brownie's no doubt about it.

927
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 2: But there's those nips. But I'm taking cookies. All things considered,

928
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 2: it's tough to botch a brownie. You're getting a good

929
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: brownie ninety five percent of the time somebody bakes them,

930
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 2: you're getting a good cookie. I'm gonna go eighty five percent.

931
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: You can overcook them, you can undercook them. They can

932
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: be bad you don't add enough salt. That's a little bland.

933
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: I can get with you, Lee. But the peak of

934
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: a cookie, a fresh cookie, getting the smell in your

935
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: nose as they're in the oven as well. I think

936
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 2: a cookie smell is a little nicer than a brownie smell.

937
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm crazy, but yeah, put me on team cookies.

938
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: But I don't really want to have to choose for me.

939
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 2: The idea would be cookie cooked on top of a brownie,

940
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: you know, a cook brownie, brown cookie, whatever you want

941
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: to call it. They probably have a real name. I

942
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: don't know. I guess I pull a task and now

943
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: us and google some recipes up in here. I heard

944
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: there's over eleven million, even billion communities billion some of

945
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: those some of those are just results for looking up

946
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 2: Magic Johnson's tweets on It's like seventy five million.

947
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: Jadie, what do you think of this? Fresh cookies better

948
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: than brownie's?

949
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: Uh?

950
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, the brownie is the most overrated baked good of

951
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 5: all time. I would I would take a stale cookie

952
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 5: crumb over a fresh brownie single crumb every time. Yeah,

953
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 5: it's it's the best thing about a cookie is a

954
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 5: fresh baked cookie is awesome. But the entire shelf life

955
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 5: of a cookie is great. Like there's the middle part

956
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 5: where it's not fresh anymore, but it's sort of getting

957
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 5: to you know, it's caught some are as Tassi would say.

958
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 5: And then even if stale cookie is great, it's it's

959
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 5: like it's crispy and it's still delicious. A brownie can

960
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 5: get out of here, man, I have.

961
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: A Brownie's on sticking around all weak whiting feet to

962
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 3: wait as I'm here, Eat me now while I'm fresh

963
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 3: and gooey and tasty. I want you to think, put

964
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 3: me on the sideline for a couple of days. I'm

965
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: ready now, eat me now. I just came out of

966
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 3: the oven. You talked about the smell, the aroma. Oh man,

967
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: when you're up in that oven and that chocolate brownie

968
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: stench comes out, Oh.

969
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: My god, exactly.

970
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 5: They smell a lot better than they taste. And I

971
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 5: think that a brownie, a brownie needs arama. Like, if

972
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 5: I'm eating a brownie, it's got to have some icing,

973
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 5: it's got to have walnuts in there. But chocolate chip

974
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 5: cookie is just perfection.

975
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

976
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: I think that goes to what sort of Trey was saying.

977
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 1: I saw someone tweet this. Justin Sands tweeted this, chocolate

978
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: chip cookies have a higher degree of difficulty, but also

979
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: higher ceiling. A cookie is soul stealing. Brownie's low degree

980
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: of difficulty also a low ceiling. Though you're not gonna

981
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: win anything with them, but you gotta try hard to

982
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: really f up a brownie. I agree with that, and

983
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: I think that's why I'm team Fresh. Fresh is important

984
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: to me. This is where I disagree with you task.

985
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 1: I like, I only thought it was a fair fight

986
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: if we were making the cookie fresh. I don't want

987
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: a stale cookie. That's crap, that's not good to me.

988
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: I'll take a brownie any day of the week over that,

989
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: but a fresh warm the stench up my nose. Then

990
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: I think we got a fight. And then we got

991
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: a fair fight. And that's why I go cookie there.

992
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 4: But why are you throwing a stale Why are you

993
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 4: throwing the word stale?

994
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: I mean cookie? It's no, you're both both can be stale.

995
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: You're not wrong, but uh, I guess I prefer a

996
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: stale brownie over a stale cookie.

997
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: I guess I'm tough call.

998
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: It's tough call.

999
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you like growing up? Did you

1000
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 4: like those standard like individually wrapped brownies. They're like in

1001
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 4: that plastic wrap. You'd get them in a lunch box,

1002
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 4: and there's a single little nut or like I know

1003
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 4: you're talking about it, the nuts one it's like one

1004
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 4: eighth of a nut, more than more than an actual nut.

1005
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 4: Or would you like a miss Fields wrapped up for you?

1006
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 4: I mean those are both produced weeks in advance, that

1007
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 4: both got mad preservatives. I mean, I'm I'm sticking with

1008
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 4: my my chocolate chipper. Now I understand what Lee is

1009
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 4: saying with you know, you need things in it, but

1010
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 4: standard standard chocolate cookies, you can just go chocolate cookies.

1011
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 4: Those exist. I'm flowing with that. I'm going with that

1012
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: as well. You know, you get there's so many textra

1013
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 4: varieties crispy on the outside, you ins and brownies or whatever,

1014
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 4: my kids can make them, so they're not good. Cookies

1015
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 4: are harder for kids. Cookies.

1016
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 3: I think that's your shot.

1017
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 4: Is it like this?

1018
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: Uh, this guy's in the kitchen with his chef.

1019
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 3: You can do it with kids, and it's better because

1020
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 3: they want something easier and simpler and uh, and then

1021
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 3: they want to be able to say, I don't have

1022
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 3: to go through all the hot yards of making a cookie.

1023
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: You know, perfecting the cookie.

1024
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: Is not justly You're at you're at your son's birthday party.

1025
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: There's a picnic table with a bunch of food out there,

1026
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of desserts. There's a tray of chocolate chip cookies,

1027
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: and there's a tray of brownies. Let's say they've both

1028
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: been homemade. Okay, yeah, by the same person.

1029
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: For the can we say that it was your wife,

1030
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 3: because I know she's a very very good cook.

1031
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's that's the real wild card here. A

1032
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: cinnamon bun roll is gonna both of these out of

1033
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: the park. You want to talk about the stench my

1034
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: house smelled beautiful cinnamon making up cinnamon for oh my god,

1035
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: it's smelling crazy, crazy good. But which one are you

1036
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: taking a cookie or a cookie or a brownie.

1037
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: I'm going I'm going with the brownie because everyone's gonna

1038
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 3: be the vultures again after the cookies, you know, because

1039
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 3: they're like, all right, give me the cookie. And I'm like,

1040
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 3: because they're more popular, because that's like everyone's over there

1041
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 3: fighting out the cookies. Is like, yeah, but the better,

1042
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 3: the better dessert. All the bit of treat here is

1043
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 3: the brownie. So I'll just sit back and enjoy my brownie.

1044
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 4: And yeah, I'll say, I'll say the cookie hits the

1045
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 4: cycle over a brownie. It's better in four ways. The

1046
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 4: batter is better when it's raw, dog way better. A

1047
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 4: fresh cookie is better, a stale cookie is better, and

1048
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 4: a frozen cookie is better frozen.

1049
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: Let's say, yeah, you don't want to be freezing brownies. Man,

1050
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 3: eat him on the spot.

1051
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 4: Because they're not good otherwise, not good otherwise.

1052
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: Love love the the passion people are bringing to this argument.

1053
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: Let's hear from you guys that no dunk sing all right,

1054
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: keep it going back to basketball. Good news here for

1055
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: you task The New York Knicks and Tom Sibodel are

1056
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: finalizing a five year deal to make him the franchise's

1057
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 1: next head coach. This, of course, has been anticipated since

1058
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: the start of the Knicks coaching search, but they first

1059
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: had to interview everybody named Mike and they've done that

1060
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: and they're gonna go with Tips here. So up or

1061
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: down on the Knicks giving Tips a five year deal

1062
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: to coach them for what two years? Tops?

1063
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: What do you think?

1064
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:04,479
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1065
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: K Mix fans were feeling pretty sad about this when

1066
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: the news finally came down. They saw that big five

1067
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: year number and it was like, oh no, not Tom Thibodeaux.

1068
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 4: But I'm up.

1069
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 2: I'm actually up on this. Like you're saying, Skeets, he's

1070
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: not gonna make it five years on that Knixt deal.

1071
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it, Knicks fans, they can afford it.

1072
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 2: I'm you shouldn't be worried about James Dolan having to

1073
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 2: pay Tom Thibodeau, even if they got another coach there.

1074
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 2: The team is gonna get better. They're gonna play harder.

1075
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 2: Their best players are gonna play forty to forty five

1076
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: minutes a night. Maybe it'll be bad for them come

1077
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 2: down the line, but your team has been a joke

1078
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: for season after season after season, they will be less

1079
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: of a joke. I do believe with Tom Thibodeau as

1080
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: the head coach, he's not gonna be in charge of personnel,

1081
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: which is good. You know, He's just gonna be able

1082
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: to focus on coaching with which is certainly his strong suit,

1083
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 2: and we'll see exactly what happens. You know, the offense

1084
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 2: was better than his defenses in Minnesota, which I think

1085
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: is kind of surprising for people. But I think Mitchell

1086
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 2: Robinson is probably a better defensive backbone than Karl Anthony

1087
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 2: would be at the time in their career. Maybe Mitchell

1088
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: Robinson watches some Joe Kim Noah tape and becomes a

1089
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: really impactful defender. But on the offensive end, I think

1090
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: the Knicks are still really really strapped for talent. They

1091
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: don't have that shot creator at this point yet, that

1092
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 2: that a thibideo system needs, you know, because for him

1093
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: with the Bulls at least, and even with the Timberwolves,

1094
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 2: there was a lot of we got one guy, We're

1095
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: gonna give him the ball. It's gonna be a pick

1096
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 2: and roll, and we're gonna see what happens. Maybe r J.

1097
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: Barrett becomes that guy. He wasn't really that guy as

1098
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: a rookie, but he was also a rookie. He'll get

1099
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: some opportunities. It'll end badly. I don't think that the

1100
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 2: Tom Thibodeau era will be fondly remembered. But you know,

1101
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: to start with, I think it's fine. I think your

1102
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: team is going to be better.

1103
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you have the Knicks having a better record

1104
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: in theory at least next year, which I know is

1105
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 1: a very low bar.

1106
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: A very low bar. I just think they're gonna be

1107
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: more of a professional team with a guy who has

1108
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: everybody in line yelling at everybody twenty four to seven.

1109
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Lee, You in the past have been

1110
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: a little bit more down on this decision, if I

1111
00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: remember correctly.

1112
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the reason is because I just think he's

1113
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 3: a little bit too stubborn in his ways times to

1114
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 3: be able to change. But if he can change, and

1115
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 3: if he can adapt and by doing things by giving

1116
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 3: a little bit more freedom to his assistant coaches and

1117
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 3: to the players to sort of play out under the

1118
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: way they like to play, he may have a greater impact.

1119
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 3: But I just sort of feel with him, what's going

1120
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 3: to eventually happen. Is he just going to resort to

1121
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 3: his old ways of trying to be the control freak

1122
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 3: that he has been, where he likes to have everything,

1123
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 3: he likes to have the final say and everything, and

1124
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: I just don't think that's an effective way to coach anymore.

1125
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 3: It was in the past, and it has worked for

1126
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 3: him in Chicago there for a while, but ultimately in

1127
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 3: the end everyone got sick of his voice because he's

1128
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 3: so demanding and so it's such a tyrant out there.

1129
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,479
Speaker 3: And I think this is going to be the problem

1130
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: again with these young guys here with the Knicks. He's

1131
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 3: going to be yelling and screaming from the start. If

1132
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 3: they don't respond to it, then it's going to be

1133
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 3: a very short time he has in New York and

1134
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 3: it probably will end up being his last coaching job

1135
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,959
Speaker 3: with things end very quickly there for him. So listen,

1136
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 3: I'll be more than happy if things work out for TIBs,

1137
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 3: if he's able to adjust his style of coaching, because

1138
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 3: I think that's what needs to be that that's what

1139
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 3: needs to change. I think he needs to be able

1140
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 3: to understand how to relate to players a little bit

1141
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 3: differently and how to communicate with them a bit more effectively.

1142
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 3: And if he can do that, then the Knicks should improve.

1143
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 3: The other thing I will say about this whole process.

1144
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 3: Tips has been tabbed for the Tips has been tabbed

1145
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 3: for this job basically from the start. But the Knicks

1146
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 3: still went through that, the process of interviewing all these

1147
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: people pretending they were actually a serious candidate, when even

1148
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 3: before those interviews it was basically like Tips has got

1149
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 3: this job. They're just going to do this stuff anyway.

1150
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, but hold on, hold on the play Devil's Advocate.

1151
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: If they had just said right away, Leon Rose comes

1152
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, I know, Tips, here you go,

1153
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: here's the job, you would have been just as upset, going, well,

1154
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: you should at least interview people and try and exam.

1155
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 3: But they basically did that anyway. They basically said, it's

1156
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 3: your job, Tips. Oh hang on a minute, let's not

1157
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 3: do that. Let's pretend we're offering it around to some other.

1158
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: If you believe it was yeah, strictly for Arctics, and

1159
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: it was, there was there was.

1160
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 3: I don't I believe anyway. I don't think there was

1161
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 3: any real chance anyone else had.

1162
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: It sounds like some of these makes might be joining

1163
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: them as an assistant coaches. I think Brown is in

1164
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: the mix and maybe Woodson as well.

1165
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, fine, but but you know, those those

1166
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 3: people interviewed with the hope and belief that they were

1167
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 3: interviewing for the head coaching job, when I don't think

1168
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 3: it was ever really that open. But listen, yeah, we'll see,

1169
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 3: we'll see what happens. And you know, I think that

1170
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 3: Tibbs has been successful in the past, but ultimately he

1171
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: hasn't been able to adapt and adjust, and I think

1172
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 3: that's what he needs to do if he wants to

1173
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: be successful and stay for that five year deal, which today,

1174
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 3: thinking Tibbs will still be there in five years, like

1175
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 3: it seems like impossible that that will.

1176
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: What's the over under on how many years he's actually there,

1177
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: You would say that like you'd set it maybe at

1178
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: two and a half, but you've probably said it that

1179
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: one and a half, right with the way that his

1180
00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: dale was only one and me two right in.

1181
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 4: The cord, Yeah, for one point two five years. Because

1182
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 4: I was just looking at the head coaches there for

1183
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 4: the longest period of time as they have been for

1184
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 4: a while at a laughing stock, but they haven't had

1185
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 4: this hard ass type coach. So maybe it's just a

1186
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 4: change that they need. He will come in there and

1187
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 4: try and hold guys accountable. He is a lot different

1188
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 4: than the Fizzdale, the Horn Sect, the Fisher, even the

1189
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 4: Mike Woodson who have a little success. Dan TONI now

1190
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 4: we're going into the Oughts. We're going way back. You know,

1191
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 4: Isaiah Thomas, Larry Brown, Lenny Wilkins. They just they haven't

1192
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 4: had a hard ass and so that's who Tibbs is.

1193
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 4: It hasn't really worked with young guys. It didn't really

1194
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 4: work in Minnesota in they're two and a half years there. Yeah,

1195
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 4: they went to the playoffs that middle year. But he

1196
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 4: didn't appeal to Wiggins, he didn't appeal to Towns. Is

1197
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 4: he gonna appeal to Mitchell Robinson and RJ? Barrett? Are

1198
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 4: they going to buy in? Maybe the Knicks know something

1199
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 4: we don't. Maybe Tom Tibodau is going to be reassigned

1200
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 4: to be James Dolan's drummer in year three, four and

1201
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 4: five of this contract when it doesn't work out because

1202
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 4: they're paying him, Hey, you got to do it another job, man. Uh,

1203
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 4: I don't know he's gonna come prepared and will these

1204
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 4: these players respond? Man? I don't know. Everybody thought Fizdale's

1205
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 4: a players coach. It's gonna work out. They didn't really

1206
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 4: respond night in and night out. Hard ass tips is

1207
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 4: coming in. Are they going to respond? It's really tough

1208
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 4: to say that locker somebody's got to be somebody's got

1209
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 4: to be his, you know, his mirror in that locker

1210
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 4: room to carry that message into the guys every single night.

1211
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 4: One of these players has to be Tom Thibodau light

1212
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 4: he's and so I don't know who that is though,

1213
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 4: and maybe Robinson.

1214
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 2: Imagine right he was there in Minnesota and in Chicago.

1215
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 2: Who's I missed your mister Gibson. I imagine there'll be

1216
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: a guy who is a locker room veteran for them,

1217
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: but I don't know if he's there exactly. Thibs Uh,

1218
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 2: he gets he gets the rap for not being good

1219
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 2: with young guys. But Derek Rose, long youngest MVP in

1220
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: league history, turned Jimmy Butler into an All Star most

1221
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 2: Improved player who became a super Max guy. Lou All

1222
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: Dang he got when he was pretty young too, took

1223
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 2: him to the All Star Game. Joe Kim Noah Defensive

1224
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: Player of the Year. You know you look at the

1225
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: Bulls They've been a lot worse than Stibboda has been gone.

1226
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: Timberwolves have even been worse since Tibbuta's been gone. I

1227
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: think having a guy there that holds people accountable is

1228
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 2: valuable for teams that are trying to turn it around.

1229
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, they want to buy in. If Joe and like

1230
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 4: Joe kim No and Jimmy Butler bought it and they

1231
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 4: loved they love being yelled at. They that's you know,

1232
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,959
Speaker 4: some guys work off that. I mean, some guys thrive

1233
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 4: off that well if they know their personalities and there's

1234
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 4: somebody in there to do that, like one of these

1235
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 4: young guys. Maybe maybe Mitchell Robinson's that guy. I don't know.

1236
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, well Tim's also has the benefit in theory of

1237
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: new management. I mean in the mix here in Rose

1238
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: and obviously Morris and stuff like that. You know, Steve

1239
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: Mills is not there. I mean a lot of these

1240
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: coaches prior they were dealing with Scott and Steve and uh,

1241
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, I guess Scott is still around, right, Scott Perry.

1242
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 4: But he got real sign.

1243
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got real sign. So I mean that, you know,

1244
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: it's not just the coach. They got to build this team,

1245
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: Like you guys are talking about, like, who are these

1246
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: players that are gonna maybe take on that sort of

1247
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: style that Tis likes to play, like that, you know,

1248
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: gritty sort of style and let's get at it on

1249
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: defense and let's just outwork everybody. You gotta work hand

1250
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: in hand. I like that. Tims doesn't have to worry

1251
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: about that part like he did in Minnesota, where he's

1252
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: got to actually try and like think of the future,

1253
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: but try and win games immediately and stuff like that.

1254
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: That's just too much probably for any coach nowadays. For

1255
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: the most part, you have to have two different roles,

1256
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: but they have to work hand in hand. So yeah,

1257
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: I mean the Knicks are going to be better. They

1258
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: can't basically be worse, although that's blown up in our

1259
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: face before. But yeah, we'll see just how long this

1260
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: last week? Oh yeah, yeah, Oh all right, Well we

1261
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: got a couple more here. Kyrie Irving. He is making

1262
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: sure WNBA players can sit out the season and not

1263
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: stress about a paycheck. The Brooklyn net Star is committing

1264
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: one point five million to supplement the income of players

1265
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: who choose not to play this season uh in the NBA,

1266
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: whether it be because of coronavirus concerns, or social justice

1267
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: reasons or other reasons. The w NBA season began Saturday

1268
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: and it's being played at the IMG Academy in Florida.

1269
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: So up or down him it is a pretty obvious one,

1270
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: I think, But up or down on Kyrie's one point

1271
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: five million dollar commitment to w NBA players that want

1272
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: to skip the seasons for whatever reasons, Lee.

1273
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 3: Well, Kyrie is not just going to talk about it.

1274
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 3: He's going to be about it putting up his money.

1275
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 3: That's what it comes down to a lot of the time.

1276
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 3: This is the sort of indication of how serious somebody

1277
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 3: is about doing something. One point five million dollars. Now

1278
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 3: Kyrie has earned you know, a fortune already in his

1279
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 3: NBA contract, but still you have to go out there

1280
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 3: and put that money up. And he's basically doing this

1281
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 3: leading the way, not asking for anyone to sort of

1282
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 3: support him. But I'm sure people will when they see

1283
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 3: that he's taking the lead on this initiative. And I

1284
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 3: think it's great because the WNBA players do get sort

1285
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 3: of underpaid, if you like, and a lot of these

1286
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 3: people now, a lot of the players are sitting out

1287
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 3: for a reason to sort of show that something is

1288
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 3: more bigger than basketball, And Kyrie is trying to step

1289
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 3: up and say, well, I'll help you out financially while

1290
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 3: or supporting the cause that means something special to you.

1291
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 3: And I think that's great. And again, Kyrie, he's a

1292
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 3: polarizing character. You know, some people like to pick on

1293
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 3: him for whatever he says and things that he believes in,

1294
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 3: but ultimately he's actually stepping up to the plate here

1295
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 3: and saying, here's some money. I'm going to try to

1296
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 3: do what I can to support these women who are

1297
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 3: going out of their way, sacrificing their own career to

1298
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 3: go and for a bigger goal, if you like, in

1299
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 3: life or if they've been adversely affected by the coronavirus.

1300
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 3: So hats off to him. Kyrie's great, and I think

1301
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 3: and I hope we'll see more players contributing things like this.

1302
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: Underpeed is an underestimate. Yeah, I mean, the top annual

1303
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: salary is something like two hundred thousand dollars, the top

1304
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: annual salary in the WWA, And a lot of these

1305
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: women go and play in other leagues to make money. Yes,

1306
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, one point five million is no joke.

1307
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: You agree with this track.

1308
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 2: This is awesome. Yeah, he's putting his money where his

1309
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: mouth is. And this is a guy who has made

1310
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 2: a lot of waves with his mouth. So to see

1311
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 2: him using his position to help people and to support

1312
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 2: fellow athletes, fellow people who are fighting for fighting injustice

1313
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 2: or you know, fighting health concerns. I just think it's

1314
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: really great to see somebody actually follow through on what

1315
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: they said they were going to do.

1316
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 4: Props the Kyrie, no doubt, and it continues, you know,

1317
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 4: in an indirect way, to bring light to the WNBA

1318
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 4: situation and people continuing to gain notice that this is

1319
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 4: a really good league with really good basketball going on

1320
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 4: the message that they sent last week when the WNBA started,

1321
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 4: and they're all wearing their orange WNBA sweaters. You know,

1322
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 4: they am saying everybody basically in the NBA bubble now

1323
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 4: where they've given those sweaters to hey say hey, take

1324
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 4: a photo. You know, I'll throw it on Yeah maybe maybe,

1325
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 4: but I think that's okay. Let's continuously show that these

1326
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 4: women are really, really, really good basketball players. And we

1327
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 4: talked about number one pick Sabrina Jonescu yesterday and she

1328
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 4: went off for thirty three. She had a mean step

1329
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 4: back she had lots of mean shots yesterday. She's got

1330
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 4: a little lefty almost a lefty hook layup going to

1331
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 4: her left from way down low from the hip. There's

1332
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 4: there's a lot of talented players out there, so yeah,

1333
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 4: they should be paid more money. And I think, you know,

1334
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 4: it's a it's a little chicken chicken egg situation. More

1335
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 4: people hopefully will watch them. In turn ads go up

1336
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 4: and turn ticket sales go up, and in turn that

1337
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 4: they do get paid more. And Kyrie obviously assisting is

1338
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 4: a good idea.

1339
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sabrina thirty three, seven and seven came in a loss,

1340
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: came in lost. They got a very young team there

1341
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,959
Speaker 1: are at Liberty, but oh my god, seven highlights were sick.

1342
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: You're right like the step backs for oh my god,

1343
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: she's gonna be You gonna get used to those lines

1344
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: for sure, those type of thirty three, seven and seven lines.

1345
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: That's the type of stuff she was doing in college.

1346
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: It's going to continue, all right, Well, final one here.

1347
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to look too far ahead, guys, But

1348
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: the Players Associations executive director Michelle Roberts, she told ESPN

1349
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: this week that returning to a bubble might be the

1350
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: only feasible way for the NBA to complete next season.

1351
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about next season right here. There had

1352
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: been some hope that next season, starting maybe in December,

1353
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: would return to something closer to a normal season, not

1354
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: unlike what the MLB is trying to do right now,

1355
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: where at least NBA teams would play in their own arena.

1356
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: There'd be no fans, very likely, but you'd at least

1357
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: be in your own arena and maybe traveling around stuff

1358
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: like that. The question is up or down on next

1359
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: season also being played in a bubble. I'll get it

1360
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: started because my sources, my sauces, my multiple sauces, they

1361
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: have told me the NBA is hell bent on not

1362
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: having to do the bubble again and playing in their

1363
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: own arena. But you do wonder now, with what's happening

1364
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: in the last week or so with the Marlins and

1365
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: what we're seeing with the MLB, whether like that debacle,

1366
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: whether that changes the plan here. And it's pretty wild

1367
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: to wrap your head around, like it's one thing to

1368
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: do what we're doing with this NBA restart for a

1369
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: couple of months because they're finishing the season and it's

1370
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: just the playoffs. But like then try and step back

1371
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: and go, imagine they tried to pull this off for

1372
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: an entire season, like even if it's an abbreviated like

1373
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: sixty game seasons like double it up here exactly.

1374
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 2: That it seems untenable to actually try and pull that off.

1375
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: They're not going to be able to quarantine for six months.

1376
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 2: They're not going to stay in the bubble for six

1377
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 2: months away from their families. And maybe it would have

1378
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 2: to be a split season, right, like you go in

1379
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 2: for three months, then you take a month off and

1380
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: you come back in for three months or something like that.

1381
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 2: But I don't know. After you see what's happened with

1382
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 2: baseball and how quickly the coronavirus ripped through the Miami Marlins,

1383
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 2: I mean, Michelle Roberts is kind of right. Maybe it

1384
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,439
Speaker 2: will have to be a bubble for something to happen

1385
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 2: during the twenty twenty one season. That's still a long

1386
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 2: time away from now. He knows what things will be

1387
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 2: like come December, but being in Orlando seems like the

1388
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 2: safest place for athletes to be, being in that bubble

1389
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 2: right now. But six months, eight months at a time,

1390
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 2: that's just not possible for people to do. And be

1391
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 2: away from their friends and family. They can't do that.

1392
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wo was tweeted that like, regional pods for extended

1393
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: periods are one of the ideas as the NBA might consider.

1394
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: So example, like you're saying, Trey a month or two

1395
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: inside this regional bubble pod or whatever, and then you're

1396
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: out for another month and then you go back like,

1397
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: I mean, wow, and it's all early planning. Everything's on

1398
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: the table here. But sorry, what are you gonna say?

1399
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 3: Well, I was just going to say it sounds obviously

1400
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 3: a little bit crazy to do a bubble for eight months,

1401
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 3: but honestly, playing in their own arenas sounds even crazier

1402
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 3: to me. Right now with players flying around in different

1403
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 3: hotels and different you know, buses and things like that,

1404
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 3: I think that's more dangerous simply because of the chance

1405
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 3: of exposing yourself to the risk. So I don't know

1406
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 3: what the right solution is. Perhaps even there's two or

1407
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 3: three bubbles, you know, put ten teams together in different

1408
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 3: locations something like that, But again, you're still going to

1409
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 3: have to be in that bubble for a period of

1410
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 3: up to six months, which I don't think anyone would

1411
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 3: actually want to be in a bubble for that long,

1412
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 3: just playing basketball away from your family and friends. I

1413
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 3: don't think that would appeal. But again, it might come

1414
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 3: down to, well, this is the only way we can

1415
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 3: play basketball if we do it in a bubble. So

1416
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 3: it's up to the players to decide that in that sense.

1417
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm I just don't know what the next

1418
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 3: twelve months looks like, to be honest with it, Like,

1419
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 3: it's so hard to figure out. Because things have gone

1420
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 3: very well to this point for the NBA in Orlando,

1421
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 3: will they continue hopefully? They had another announcement yesterday that

1422
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 3: no further positive tests have been returned, which is great,

1423
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 3: but again, this is only for two months, and this

1424
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 3: is only twenty two teams, which will be down to

1425
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 3: sixteen teams in a couple of weeks anyway, So things

1426
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 3: are very good. But trying to sort of, you know,

1427
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 3: parlay this out, I guess over the course of an

1428
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 3: entire season with thirty teams, I don't know how it's

1429
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 3: gonna work, to be honest, right.

1430
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: What do you think tass up or down on the

1431
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: likelihood of this like next year in a full unbubble.

1432
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 4: Well, I think what these last couple of months or

1433
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 4: what we're going through right now. Is showing is that

1434
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 4: the NBA can do something which they haven't been done,

1435
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 4: hasn't been done before, to do something unprecedented. We're playing

1436
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 4: in the summer here, never been done before. So maybe

1437
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 4: they have to push the season back even further than

1438
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 4: December twenty fifth, which could be the new start date.

1439
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 4: Everything is on the table. I think they're adaptable, and

1440
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 4: I think Michelle Roberts is a great leader in saying

1441
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:08,439
Speaker 4: I don't know what the heck is going to happen

1442
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 4: in December. If you read all her comments in this article,

1443
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 4: how is she supposed to know? How is she supposed

1444
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 4: to predict the future? And so a regional bubble like

1445
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 4: what they're doing in the NHL right now, it is

1446
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,479
Speaker 4: only you know, two to three months where they're playing

1447
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 4: in two different cities, Edmonton and Toronto, makes sense rather

1448
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 4: than you know, just going in one city for a

1449
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 4: billion years. I mean what you guys are saying with

1450
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 4: a little bit of an intermission, like you're at the

1451
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 4: theater and you're there for a couple of months and

1452
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 4: you take a break. Sure that could work, but I

1453
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 4: think also maybe you just put it off and you

1454
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 4: say Listen, we don't know what the heck's happening here

1455
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty. Screw it, Let's start in February and

1456
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 4: have a sixty game season from February to August or whatever.

1457
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 4: There's there's options on the board, and there's just no

1458
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 4: need other than to figure out the CBA situation, which

1459
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 4: is important in how they're you know, divvying all the money.

1460
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 4: That's important. I think that's more important right now. But everybody,

1461
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 4: everything is sort of being done right now. There's a

1462
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 4: lot of things being done right now. Hockey is a

1463
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 4: good example to take from. MLB is a good example

1464
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 4: to learn from, and they've learned a lot from from

1465
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 4: various leagues around the world. So I think they've shown

1466
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 4: a good just a good method or a good example

1467
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 4: here that they're adaptable. Silver and Roberts will work together.

1468
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 4: And I'm sort of just in the position of wait

1469
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 4: and see, and they're smart enough to figure it out.

1470
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 1: What what's baseball doing now? Like seventeen people in the Marlins,

1471
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 1: you know, have the virus? Like, are they just being removed?

1472
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 1: Are they continuing to play? Has there been an announcement

1473
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 1: from the MLB?

1474
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 4: Well, they're they're going on with the season. They're just

1475
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 4: they're rejigging the schedule. I think the Marlins have all

1476
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 4: been pulled from the ocean and they're not playing. They're

1477
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 4: sinning trays best boat and they're not playing right now.

1478
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 4: They're just they're hanging for a week at least until Sunday.

1479
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 4: I believe they haven't played since Monday. I think they're

1480
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 4: not playing till Sunday. And then there's kind of like, hey,

1481
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 4: we're flying by the seat of our pants.

1482
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 1: Here, right and then just hoping this doesn't happen to

1483
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: other teams as well, and it's just like you a

1484
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: one off. Wow, yeah, yeah, I mean like I don't know,

1485
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: obviously a ton about it as I'm asking these questions,

1486
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: but even the little I did was like, this is

1487
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: the plan, this is what they're doing, like sort of

1488
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: just we're going on as normal, just no fans in

1489
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 1: the stands, Like, I don't know if that's gonna work well.

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01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 2: The reporting a pandalytic of it was crazy too, where

1491
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 2: it basically came down to the shortstop on the Marlins

1492
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 2: was the one who made the call if the team

1493
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 2: was gonna play. I don't know, maybe you should have

1494
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 2: like an official be in charge of this. I don't know.

1495
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 1: I don't know to stop out there's a charge of

1496
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: the infield.

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01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 2: Usually that's a great what's Jeff blauser think out there?

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01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1499
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 2: Wow?

1500
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: Crazy? Well, no, who knows exactly. Michelle Robertson's right, He's

1501
01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: like it might be in a bubble for all we

1502
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: know next year, but it's so far in the future.

1503
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: Let's just get through this one first, and the NBA

1504
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: comes back tonight. That's incredible. We're gonna have the bubble

1505
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 1: wrap after the second game tonight on TNT it is

1506
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: the Clippers Lakers. We'll fire it up on YouTube, we'll

1507
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 1: tweet it out, we'll get the podcast up. We're gonna

1508
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 1: have some fun the return of the pick and Payoff.

1509
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: I will be shotgunning a beer for my payoff loss

1510
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: from way back in February. But are we gonna continue

1511
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: to make some picks here?

1512
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 3: Tasks?

1513
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: Are we just gonna fire up the pick them battle again?

1514
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 4: We love making picks? How can we say no? I

1515
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 4: think we gotta do it. We picked one game nightly.

1516
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 4: It's pretty easy, sure, and we'll figure it out. You know,

1517
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 4: we'll probably have an August payoff but why the heck not.

1518
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 4: We'll stick with the points spread, not just the winner.

1519
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 4: That's way too easy. And yeah, pick one of the games.

1520
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 4: And there's the doubleheader ten night TNT. A couple big

1521
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 4: name players status still up in the air. The Jazz

1522
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 4: are playing the Pelicans and Zion Williamson question one. I

1523
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 4: think he's a GTDS at game time decision as to

1524
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 4: whether or not he'll suit up. He is in the bubble,

1525
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 4: he is ready to go. I assume he played, but

1526
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 4: who knows. I think we'll pick from the second game, though.

1527
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 4: Clippers Lakers Anthony Davis is questionable. He got the ipoke

1528
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 4: he's playing in these are practicing in these goggles, which

1529
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 4: I don't know. Is he gonna play worse? He's a

1530
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 4: game time decision. He's also game time decision. So Lakers

1531
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 4: hosting the Clippers. Lebron Kawhi will be out there. I

1532
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 4: say hosting because the Lakers are at the home team

1533
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 4: and they're favored by four and a half points. With

1534
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 4: Anthony Davis's status in the air.

1535
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: These are gonna be the most saying pick up picks

1536
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: of all times. We have no idea what to expect.

1537
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean, like the Clippers are missing, like the guys,

1538
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: aren't they There's no lou obviously, I don't think. I

1539
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: don't think Montress.

1540
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 5: Harrow is playing.

1541
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Harold's definitely gone. Not in the bubble Bently

1542
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,440
Speaker 4: has returned. I'm not sure, egib.

1543
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Lakers by four. Well, we got to make

1544
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 1: our picks here. So when we come back on tonight

1545
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: with bubble Rap, we'll have, you know, our first record.

1546
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: Who will be in the lead or maybe we'll tie

1547
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: with the loss lead. You have a feel for this one.

1548
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: What do you like?

1549
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:09,759
Speaker 1: Lakers?

1550
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 3: I have four, I have no feel, but I'll just

1551
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 3: say the Lakers. I think the Clippers are just a

1552
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 3: little too shorthanded. I mean, who knows. Give me the

1553
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 3: Lakers by five?

1554
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Trey, Yeah, I think I'm gonna go with

1555
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 2: the Lakers as well. I'm looking at this Anthony Davis picture.

1556
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 2: They're calling him Anthony Jabbar Davis. He looks great, and

1557
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 2: I'm thinking back in the day, like he played in

1558
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 2: goggles in high school. You know, they only show that

1559
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 2: picture of him when he looks tiny and he's wearing

1560
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 2: glasses or goggles. So this is gonna be a throwback

1561
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 2: for him on a throwback Thursday, they're running back the

1562
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 2: season and opening game. Clippers did win that game. Maybe

1563
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 2: I should change my pick, but I give me the Lakers.

1564
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 2: They got a lot of guys around.

1565
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: The Lakers by five. Ah, look, I'll switch it up.

1566
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: I don't want to start a pick them with everybody

1567
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: possibly going the same team. We don't know where Tas

1568
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: is going yet. But give me the Clippers. You know

1569
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 1: they still got their best players. I mean talk about

1570
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: their death all the time. Let's see it. Put it

1571
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: to work there, Doc rivers Kawhi versus Lebron he always

1572
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 1: does well on him. So I'll take the Clippers to

1573
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: at least keep it close enough to get the win. Task.

1574
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: What says you? Yeah, right now?

1575
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 4: Flip a headphone? All right?

1576
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: What it come up?

1577
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 4: Wud it land on right? That's my right headphone. It

1578
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 4: landed on r The Lakers are on the right side

1579
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 4: of the Lakers.

1580
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's smart. I think that's flip my

1581
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: headphone there.

1582
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 4: I love it.

1583
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: Okay, So three of you guys taking the Lakers to

1584
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 1: win by five points or more, and I've got the

1585
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: Clips to either win out right or keep.

1586
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 2: It close enough.

1587
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, pick them his back. And like I said,

1588
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 1: bubble wrap tonight. Lee, you said you had a tweet

1589
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: for us before we go here. Yeah, well tweet.

1590
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 3: I guess we're bringing back Tweeter the nod as well.

1591
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:54,759
Speaker 3: So I've got a couple of here to get a started.

1592
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 3: You can guess and see if you can guess who

1593
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 3: this is from?

1594
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: Actually, should we wait to do tweet the night on?

1595
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 3: I want to do this one now. I don't do

1596
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 3: it now?

1597
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, nighttime right now.

1598
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 3: I'm so happy that the NBA is back today. Get

1599
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 3: to watch my favorite team, the Lakers and my favorite player,

1600
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 3: Lebron James with superstar Anthony Davis take on the Clippers

1601
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 3: duo Kawhi Leonard and Paul George. There's more NBA fans

1602
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 3: don't forget. The first game will be must see TV too,

1603
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 3: with Zion versus Donovan Mitchell.

1604
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: We're back.

1605
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 3: Great, doesn't it feel great?

1606
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:36,919
Speaker 4: You're googling, You're googling Cookie Johnson recipes. That's what's happenings.

1607
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: Oh all right, So so okay, we got Pickum's. I

1608
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 1: guess I got to bring back will Boy later tonight.

1609
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, maybe tweeted the night back in the middle.

1610
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 1: Well this is fun, a very solid play that's not

1611
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: going to work as well.

1612
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I will see you will see what you

1613
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 3: never know.

1614
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: You know, we'll be sureing. Okay, So tonight bubble wrap. Everybody,

1615
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: make sure you have a coffee late tonight, especially you.

1616
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,440
Speaker 1: You already looked tired.

1617
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 3: Man the first night. The first night, I can always

1618
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 3: get through Tomorrow night, we'll see. But tonight I'll be

1619
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 3: I'll be ready, I'll be pumped up.

1620
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 1: Okay, excellent, that's what I want to hear. I want

1621
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: to see that energy tonight, gentlemen, with the first bubble wrap,

1622
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 1: and I'll be drunk anyway after I shot gun the beer.

1623
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 1: So join us late night, get your questions and keep

1624
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: them coming No dunks at the Athletic dot Com. Tweet

1625
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 1: them in at No Dunks and can't wait to see

1626
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: you later. Basketball is back. There's gonna be so wild

1627
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: just to sit down and watch games that actually matter. Here,

1628
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:28,600
Speaker 1: Clipper bros.

1629
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 2: You heard it here first. Have a great time. Turn up.

1630
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 2: Love you guys awesome, Thanks for joining us.

1631
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:38,879
Speaker 4: This is an inside information fact right here. The Athletics

1632
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 4: salary cap specialist Danny LaRue is so next level. He's

1633
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 4: so bad ass. His slack handle is just at Danny okay, amazing.

1634
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: Embrace the day people see you tonight.

1635
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 3: You could stay.

1636
01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:00,839
Speaker 1: Every day, Dan, happy, every minute.

1637
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 2: It's been so long that you're the one I've waited for.

1638
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 2: Its happened already. It's gonna be gravy.