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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys blowing out of

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Speaker 1: the backfield, exploding down the sidelines. This he is Hanging

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Speaker 1: with the Boys, presented by wing Stuff where Flavor gets

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Speaker 1: its wings. Now, your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly,

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Speaker 1: and Shannon.

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Speaker 2: Gross, Welcome to the show. It is hot shape. You

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Speaker 2: are looking live inside the studio.

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Speaker 3: We got a jacked up outside shot. But outside we'll

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Speaker 3: let you know. It's ninety seven degrees.

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Speaker 4: The how today is one hundred and one.

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Speaker 2: The load of nine is eighty two, and there's.

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Speaker 4: An air quality alert whatever that means.

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Speaker 2: But no ert there.

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Speaker 4: It is right there.

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Speaker 3: Li' look at Tostitos Championship Las outside Fort Center, Frisco.

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Speaker 2: Text. Yes, nobody's out there. It's not even that. I

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Speaker 2: mean it's hot, it's not that hot. So something going

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Speaker 2: on in there. There was nowhere to park.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I was practice.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. I guess the media is back

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Speaker 2: in the building, but they're around right around. Why are

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Speaker 2: you laughing?

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Speaker 7: Ate?

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Speaker 2: Why are you laughing?

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Speaker 4: To start the show on the porch.

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Speaker 6: I got here on time he tried, They tried.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to and Nate goes, let's go with

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Speaker 3: Christal can't be tardy on the show, and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: we're going.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm out of this. I'm not Jesse who.

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Speaker 4: Told him lave it on me? He said, thank you?

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Speaker 2: Trying to wait, Jess.

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Speaker 8: I knew he would walk in, bro, I knew he

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Speaker 8: would walk in as soon as we got started.

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Speaker 6: Just say y'all still a little salty about yesterday?

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Speaker 8: Oh no, no, no, I expected.

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Speaker 4: The only thing that the only thing that got me.

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Speaker 8: I was expected it from him, but when he came

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Speaker 8: from him spitting game, spitting down?

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Speaker 3: Has it been drawn for the season already? Not even

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Speaker 3: halfway through the first week? And there we go, that's

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Speaker 3: all right looking shirt? That is a good look at

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Speaker 3: that's a shirt?

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Speaker 2: You see this one? Y?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: What do you do? Yeah? What do you do?

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Speaker 9: You know?

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Speaker 2: You got I got one?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: You hang?

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Speaker 2: I still have yours or still give it to good will?

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Speaker 5: No, I've got it, but I don't think it fits me.

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Speaker 5: I think my daughter's got it.

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Speaker 2: Well if.

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Speaker 3: Like a little.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go see if you can find it.

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Speaker 4: What do you do? Wear them on?

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Speaker 3: Like Friday after victory victory Mondays or something. Mine's a

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Speaker 3: little snug too, but that's okay.

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Speaker 4: It was your shirt hanging with the boy.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not Black College Hall of Fame. Did you

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Speaker 2: get that when you're up there this weekend?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all see your shoes, No, look at the shoes,

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Speaker 3: like got it? By How excited are y'all to actually talk? Like?

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Speaker 2: Really, football?

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Speaker 6: Are we going to talk?

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Speaker 2: The third one is one.

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Speaker 6: We don't know.

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Speaker 3: The first segment Cowboys offense, second segment we'll go Giants D.

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Speaker 2: And the third segment we'll just see where the.

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Speaker 3: Wind takes us. But I mean, let's go, it's go time.

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Speaker 3: We got an update on Tyler Smith, right, Kurt.

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Speaker 5: Well, you're not practicing right, working off the side along

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Speaker 5: with Wilson and Sam Williams.

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Speaker 8: And then the updated coach said you'll get it ninety

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Speaker 8: minutes before else.

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Speaker 4: That's the update.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 5: Jerry was uh confident, you know and Jerry speak, that

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Speaker 5: he would be alatable on Saturday or on Sunday.

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Speaker 6: Jerry the doctor, Jerry doctor Jesse never ever ever believe doctors.

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Speaker 2: So no real update just.

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Speaker 5: He well, the MRI did show he had.

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Speaker 6: A stranger but they didn't say what's great depending on one,

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Speaker 3: So in other words, like there can't be an opening

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Speaker 3: game where there's not stress on Cowboys fans, right, I.

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Speaker 6: Mean, look at no different than what last year was.

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Speaker 6: Last year we started of the season when the tying

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Speaker 6: wasn't there, so the rookie left now, the left guard

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Speaker 6: this isn't This isn't new.

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Speaker 8: Peter's got in shape and gave us his forty plays

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Speaker 6: Whatever those I mean, this isn't This isn't new terrific,

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Speaker 6: right right, This isn't new tennis?

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Speaker 3: And is every team like this is every team got

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Speaker 3: a couple of people bank up going into Week one?

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Speaker 2: Or is this is it just the Cowboys?

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Speaker 6: The tight end, Yeah, that's one the mission. They're all

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Speaker 2: They got one on each side of the ball. So

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Speaker 2: I guess we're not the only one.

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Speaker 6: We're not the only one.

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Speaker 2: And you know what's great about this week?

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Speaker 3: All it doesn't matter how crappy your team is or

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Speaker 3: how crappy they were last year, there are thirty two

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Speaker 3: hope going into this week.

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Speaker 6: What's the hope of what.

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Speaker 4: Championship game?

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Speaker 2: He thought about this? I thought about this the hell

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Speaker 2: I was hoping.

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Speaker 3: You said, yeah, hango, no, because maybe maybe what I said,

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Speaker 3: what what?

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Speaker 2: Let me think about this? And I third segment Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: I thought, that's Friday. Were making it Friday to eight.

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Speaker 3: We're taking calls on Friday seven, start to dollar.

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Speaker 2: Now what I want to know? What to expect out

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Speaker 6: And then what, I'm glad you said that good because

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Speaker 6: when I went to start my preparation last night and

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Speaker 6: I said, you're gonna watch film, and I stopped, and

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Speaker 2: We got tours back in the bad Man Football's back.

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Speaker 6: It feels good, I thought to myself, and I said, Okay,

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Speaker 7: This is a new offense, yes, sir, yes, sir, right,

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Speaker 7: this is new players, new play caller.

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Speaker 6: Play caller, new offense.

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Speaker 2: Yes right, there's no film. There's no first four games preseason.

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Speaker 6: There's no there's no film. So what I started to

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Speaker 6: at what Mike McCarthy did because he was the offensive

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Speaker 6: and look at what he did in Green Bay and

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Speaker 6: what I revealed in looking at the numbers and how

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Speaker 6: they played back then, This team, the way it is built,

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Speaker 6: could not be more Mike McCarthy offensively than ever.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, so it matches up with what they did

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Speaker 6: When you go back and look. And there's two things

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Speaker 6: this season. We downplayed Schoonmaker and Ferguson and hindershott Is

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Speaker 6: When you look at the Mike McCarthy teams, they kept

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Speaker 6: But what I went to look at was, and I'm

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Speaker 6: glad you said it, the rushing because I've been on here,

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Speaker 6: and I've preached ten point one million dollars. This thing

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Speaker 6: is one of Tony Potler every which way, but right right,

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Speaker 6: I had to go all the way back. Now, remind

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Speaker 6: you Mike McCarthy got fired midway through the year into

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Speaker 6: Eddie Lacy. I think he had like eleven to fifty

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Speaker 6: running back by committee situation. Didn't have a fullback Time Montgomery.

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Speaker 4: Yes they did.

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Speaker 6: They had, Yeah, they had the fullback, but they had

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Speaker 6: but never had They always had guys who had four

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Speaker 6: As a unit, they were fifteen hundred bus yards. So

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Speaker 6: I started looking at what the cowboys. This team is

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Speaker 6: not going to run the ball in the traditional matter

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Speaker 6: the ball off the zeke thirty times a game. It's

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Speaker 6: because of his play. Because the way that Micar coaches it.

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Speaker 6: He wants to have these guys, you know, fifteen carriages

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Speaker 6: for him, fifteen carries for him, seven carriages for him.

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Speaker 6: And when you look at it over time, that's the

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Speaker 6: way that this Mike McCarthy offense is built. It's built

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Speaker 6: the way that he used to run it back in

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Speaker 6: to look different in the run scheme.

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Speaker 2: In the Jesse's defense. The official depth chart as of September.

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Speaker 3: The fifth Deuce Vaughn is listed as the third running

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it don't matter because we've got time to change that. Though.

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Speaker 8: It doesn't matter because for Game four, almost twenty two

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Speaker 8: and running combined. This is what I've been trying to

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Speaker 8: split the bet and the rest with the other backs.

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Speaker 6: So let me can I just give us a quick

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Speaker 6: numbers places?

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Speaker 4: Please?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, take your job back.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, go all.

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Speaker 6: The way back to when Eddie Lacy was the starting

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Speaker 6: and running back and Eddie Lacy one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 6: seven attempts, seven hundred and fifty eight yards, James Starks

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Speaker 6: one hundred and forty eight attempts sixty yards. One thing

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Speaker 6: that we're going to have to look at as well.

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Speaker 6: In this New West Coast offense, every single year, Aaron

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Speaker 6: Rodgers would have about three hundred and fifty to four

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Speaker 6: So tucking the ball and keeping it when there's nothing

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Speaker 6: Dak Prescott. But the next year Tom Montgomery, who was

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Speaker 2: That's what they said, his mad rushing yards is the

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Speaker 6: You get That's the way that this offensive touches. The

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Speaker 8: That's what I That's why I was hot his first

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Speaker 8: We never had in any game a knockout punch where

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Speaker 8: We had some plays where with Jimmy looked over like, oh,

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Speaker 5: So is that all those guys catching pass us was

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Stop him right right.

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Speaker 6: There's times this is Emmitt Smith, Yeah, you know it's coming,

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Speaker 6: it's an equal opportunity offense. That's what this West Coast

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Speaker 6: that by what they do but offensively, it's going to

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Speaker 6: be oh, y'all running this cool. We're going right here

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Speaker 6: to this tight end. We're going right here to number three.

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Speaker 3: Personal personnel question, personal question, personnel question based off that

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Speaker 3: On game day, though, you got some decisions to make.

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Speaker 3: Now do you do you start with four running backs?

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Speaker 3: Do you what do you do with the tight ends?

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Speaker 3: What do you do at receiver with specialists?

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Speaker 3: Is every game gonna be based off of I'm sure matchups,

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Speaker 6: What you're saying, right, Styles make fights and matchups to

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Speaker 3: Why keep a fullback if you're not going to start

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Speaker 6: Do you see?

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Speaker 2: Like okay, who's active? Who's inactive?

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Speaker 6: So in my mind, this is where I go back

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Speaker 6: Because I can't use I can't foresee Deuce getting into

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Speaker 2: That's a waste of person.

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Speaker 2: Of city go to him instead of right.

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Speaker 6: Now, you have to divvy those things because I look

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna step out on the ledge here. I think

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys Offensive League are going to dominate this game.

446
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 3: I think they're going to hang thirty two plus points.

447
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 3: And I'm basing that off one one tidbit here. The

448
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 3: Giants are starting two rookie cornerbacks.

449
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Speaker 5: That's possibility. Yeah, it looks like they will definitely be.

450
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Speaker 4: Can I tell you why that can be hindered?

451
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Speaker 8: Why because Dexter Horns is in the middle of this

452
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 8: defense from Georgia. Helen Williams is in the middle of

453
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 8: this defense. They went out and got as Sean Robinson.

454
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Speaker 4: So k has a.

455
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 3: Kurt has a very impressive stat on the NFC East defenses.

456
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 4: Listen to him.

457
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Speaker 3: And this is the entire league, right, not just the

458
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 3: not just the NFC, This is the NFL.

459
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Speaker 4: Right.

460
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 3: These are the NFC East rankings of defenses, including the Cowboys.

461
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Speaker 4: This is pro football.

462
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Speaker 5: They have Philly's defense coming to this year as number

463
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Speaker 5: one in the league overall. And this is actually this

464
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 5: is defensive line rankings. Yes, Phillies first, Washington is third,

465
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 5: Dallas is eighth, and the Giants or ninth.

466
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Speaker 2: That's one.

467
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Speaker 6: That's what did I tell y'all? Did I tell you

468
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 6: someone to go This is gonna be a knockdown, drag

469
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Speaker 6: out yet it's gonna be a war Attrician. Whoever's quarterback

470
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Speaker 6: is standing up at the end of the year, it

471
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Speaker 6: will be the one who wins this division.

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Speaker 3: So if you if you have though that talent up front,

473
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 3: Nate is the game plan gonna be three step dropping

474
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Speaker 3: the balls out.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, this is basically what this offense is built on,

476
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 8: three and three and five step drops. But it helps

477
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Speaker 8: in this case right here, because they had forty one

478
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 8: sacks last year, what six turned six interceptions and thirteen fumbles,

479
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 8: so they can get the ball and who's scares. It's

480
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Speaker 8: not so much that deck to Larne because the next

481
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 8: most important person is Don Martindale, the defensive coordinator, what

482
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 8: they call him Martin Day.

483
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, come from the Ravens. He gonna blitch you and

484
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 4: he right, is that.

485
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 6: Remember the old TV show host back in the day.

486
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:20,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we looked like him. No they Martindale. Yeah,

487
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Speaker 4: they blitzed what for the time.

488
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Speaker 5: That's fifty so they highest percentage of the lague last year.

489
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Speaker 8: The thing is, you can be having a bad day,

490
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Speaker 8: he gonna blitz.

491
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Speaker 4: You can be having a great day. He gonna blitz.

492
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 4: And he's looking for He's.

493
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 8: Went back and looked in five or six games last year,

494
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 8: what blitzes, What games? What stunts got the Cowboys And

495
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 8: he's gonna he's gonna tap into it, especially like like

496
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 8: Jesse said, no one has seen no one. So with

497
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Speaker 8: new like you said, new rookie, Trey Hawkins, Dante Banks,

498
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 8: these are new guys, but we don't know how good

499
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 8: they really are, how bad they really are. We don't

500
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 8: know what a Sean Robinson gonna bring, the new guy

501
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 8: they got from the Rams, we don't know what they're

502
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 8: gonna bring.

503
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 4: So for you, for us to just come in and.

504
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 8: Say we're gonna drop thirty two hot potatoes on them,

505
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 8: break just a limit, just a limit, I mean, because

506
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 8: we don't know who is going to be at that

507
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 8: left guard.

508
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 5: So when they've got maybe the two best defensive tackles

509
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 5: in the league and Williams, and you've got these blitzers

510
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 5: coming from everywhere, how did the Cowboys counteract that this is.

511
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 6: A perfect storm, perfect for who, for for both because

512
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 6: and here's why, well, here's why.

513
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Speaker 2: It's a good matchup.

514
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 6: It's a great matchup.

515
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 4: Yes, it's a great.

516
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 6: Two different styles, right, but there are the like, these

517
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 6: are the styles that when you're talking about a fight,

518
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 6: this is the style that you Theiants would love for

519
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 6: the Cowboys to hold the ball longer. The Cowboys would

520
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 6: love for the Giants not to blitz they're both going

521
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 6: to be the opposite. The Giants are going to blitz

522
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 6: if you I went back and listened to a Wink

523
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 6: Martindale when he first signed on, when he first got hired.

524
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 6: He talked about pressure, and he had his time in Baltimore,

525
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 6: and he looks like one of the Ryan brothers, right,

526
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 6: there's no affiliation. But he goes, when I got my start,

527
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 6: there's guys like Skip and Lou Holtz who helped me out.

528
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 6: Then he goes, there's other people who I have influence

529
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 6: on my game, and he says Rob Ryan and not

530
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 6: Rob Royan. He goes, they daddy, what's their daddy name,

531
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 6: Buddy Buddy Ryan. And so you're looking at the guy

532
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 6: and he's like, this is the place that he comes from.

533
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 6: He wants to create pressure with the four down linemen,

534
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 6: but he also wants to give you looks that are

535
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 6: exotic that you don't know where the pressure is coming from.

536
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 6: And he feels as if you may get me one time,

537
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 6: you may get me twice, but I'm going to get

538
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 6: home more then you get me. And that's the Cowboys

539
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 6: in this new offense. They want to get the ball

540
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 6: out quick, has to come out quick, talk about the

541
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 6: rookie cornerbacks. They're in love with this dude, Dante Banks. Yeah,

542
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 6: Dante Banks and his entire professional which is still a rookie,

543
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 6: but his college career, he's giving up fifty yards. Where

544
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 6: do you go to college Maryland?

545
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 2: Fifty yards?

546
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 6: Fifty yards? Like no, no, no, not total, Like no one

547
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 6: has gotten more than fifty yards on the game in

548
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 6: a game. And that's even talking about that's on him.

549
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 6: He did defend Marvin Jones Jr. Marvin Harris Jr. A

550
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 6: year ago. So this is a guy they're pretty high on.

551
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 6: Of course, Xavier McKinney in the back end another safety

552
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 6: and Nick saman disciple.

553
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 4: And the Dori Jackson is still in this slot.

554
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 6: They want to create so much confusion, confusion and pression,

555
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 6: confusion up from the son.

556
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 4: Is there and.

557
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 6: Where the Cowboys have to win. And this is why

558
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 6: so important for these guys to be on the same page,

559
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 6: the same page quarterback and his receivers. Okay, all right,

560
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 6: because they're going to have opportunities to hit them hard.

561
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 2: Wish they would have got some little experience together in

562
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: the preseason, That's what I'm saying.

563
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 8: The Giants, what Jesse is saying just basic layman terms.

564
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 8: New York is the puncher and the cowboy Hoods is

565
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 8: the boxer the CounterPunch.

566
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 4: You know, the one is gonna be a nest.

567
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 8: The Giants want to come out. They're coming out to

568
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 8: beat you. And right, yeah, to.

569
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 6: Use a Dion Sanders term for the Giants defense, were coming, Yes, sir, Yes,

570
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 6: they are coming.

571
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 3: When you have every which two young guys at corner

572
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: like that that don't have NFL game experience, is it?

573
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 4: Is it?

574
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: How big of a benefit is it to get them

575
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 3: early in the season right out of the jump.

576
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: Or does it even if you're good, you're good from

577
00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: day one.

578
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 8: Let me say this quick for just going to there.

579
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 8: They are good to come in and get this start,

580
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 8: and they have impressed some people, but they still ain't

581
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 8: dealt with NFL speed. And the average NFL wide receiver

582
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 8: is better than most great college receivers. It's just the

583
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 8: bottom line. Now, I'll just go into details on it

584
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 8: a little bit more, cause.

585
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 3: You got better than average NFL receivers on this, That's

586
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

587
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 6: Bring I'm excited about. I'm excited about that advantage of

588
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 6: two rookies going ago two experienced veterans. And but again

589
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 6: it comes down to are they on the same page,

590
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 6: because Jack is not going to happen on the same

591
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 6: page the receivers and the quarterback. But here's the so

592
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 6: that that that's part of the West Coast offense.

593
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 4: It really is teaching this boy, he said.

594
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: But what you have to be careful about it is

595
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: that knowledge.

596
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 4: He's eat it up to look.

597
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 5: Somebody's learning.

598
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: Go ahead, on Jess, you roll, You say how good

599
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: we look with our shirt combo today?

600
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 6: Yeah?

601
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: Four box?

602
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, don't cut Jess. You was rolling. I was joking.

603
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 4: You was rolling.

604
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 6: I forgot what I was. You have to be careful

605
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 6: in that because they're gonna they're gonna jump some of

606
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 6: those Dorri Jackson, you know, the Banks, Hawkins, They're they're

607
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 6: looking at that. They're watching film too, and they're knowing

608
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 6: that this is what's coming. They're trying to get enough

609
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 6: pressure up front that that ball is coming out quick,

610
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 6: and those guys are jumping those routes. So we've seen

611
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 6: some double moves done on us defensively the Cowboys.

612
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 4: That may be option.

613
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 6: The one thing that we haven't done well that I

614
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 6: think that should present itself in this game to negate

615
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 6: that pass rush. I hope we find a screen game,

616
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 6: and we could find a screen game, and it doesn't

617
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 6: have to be your traditional in the backfield bubble screens,

618
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 6: smoke screens, something with that somewhere where that defense has

619
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 6: to pause for a second or two. This is this

620
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 6: is going to be the cat and mouse game. This

621
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 6: is gonna be a much more competitive game than you think.

622
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 6: I'm telling you this defense.

623
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's I think every game in this

624
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: division is gonna be a.

625
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun. How you come up with thirty two.

626
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: I just think they're gonna hang because what he just said.

627
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: I don't think.

628
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: These two young cats right out of the gate. Now

629
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 3: maybe later in the year when they get them again,

630
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: but right now, you got some you got two men

631
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: on each side, and you got a grown ass man

632
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 3: at quarterback. Like I just don't and you watch it,

633
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: watch it be like eight eight to six. I just

634
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: don't see that this early in the season. Everybody's going

635
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: to be out of sink. And usually when you're out

636
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: of sink.

637
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 13: The spring season, the boys going to be in sync.

638
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 13: They haven't played he kills though they haven't played together.

639
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 13: They haven't done it in real time action.

640
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: That's the one where he has think are they going

641
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: to be?

642
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 5: And the Giants defense did they put most of them

643
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 5: played during them?

644
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 6: Here's two stats that are kind of like, I guess

645
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 6: juicy for this matchup, like Dak owns the NFC East,

646
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 6: He's lost one in.

647
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 5: Two yeah against the Giants.

648
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: And they won with the last twelve.

649
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 6: The last time he lost it was his rookie year

650
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 6: of twenty sixteen.

651
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: But snow game, wasn't it.

652
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 6: The Cowboys are only three in opening games the last

653
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 6: three seasons.

654
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 4: Jesse, So you know what, man, you could have presented

655
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 4: that first.

656
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 6: You look at this is a spicy situation.

657
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: What do they call those trends?

658
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 3: There's two opposite trends, right, It's like, this is a

659
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 3: spicy situation.

660
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 4: You know what you're saying is Daniel Jones is bigger

661
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 4: than we think.

662
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 5: Here's another trend that's tomorrow.

663
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 8: No, n it's tomorrow. But I'm just saying for that

664
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 8: trend to break. Yeah, he got it, he got score,

665
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 8: Is I got the name?

666
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 4: Right? Is I got to kill?

667
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: He's got it.

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Speaker 8: So that's all I'm saying real quick, is that he

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Speaker 8: got to be a Bees, he got the juice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think the Cowboys are ten and one all time

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Speaker 5: against the Johnson opening day.

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Speaker 14: So look, you know lost goes back to when they

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Speaker 14: opened a stadium, when Rod for the show tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Look at their record on night games opening the season over.

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Speaker 4: The last night game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they've had a lot of night home not

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Speaker 2: the night Yes, that was all right?

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Speaker 3: What about okay before we go to break number five?

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Speaker 3: I really liked that pick last year, Thibodeau. What are

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Speaker 3: we going to see out of him?

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Speaker 6: He is putting what okay? So the thing about Keevon

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Speaker 6: Thibodeau to me coming out of was he just was

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Speaker 6: a better athlete than everybody. I think what you're starting

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Speaker 6: to see now is him putting combinations together. Combinations he's

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Speaker 6: starting to now understand to use. You'll see a lot

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Speaker 6: of defensive ends use speed to power. Right, That's the

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Speaker 6: one thing that comes to mind with him.

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Speaker 4: It's speed.

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Speaker 6: Same thing with Micah. It's screaming off the football, but

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Speaker 6: now being able to engage with that tackle but get

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Speaker 6: off of it use his hands. Well, I think that's

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Speaker 6: the part is he's getting so much better.

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Speaker 2: With did he did he get better last year ye

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Speaker 2: season went on.

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Speaker 6: Yes he did. And having those dogs inside Dexter Lawrence

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Speaker 6: and having Leonard Williams in the middle, it gives him.

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Speaker 6: It gives him more one on one matchups because you

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Speaker 6: have to make a decision, right, you have to make

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Speaker 6: a decision. Even if there's four down linemen and they're

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Speaker 6: bringing the fifth, you're gonna have somebody's gonna be if

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Speaker 6: there's a back in the backfield and he will have

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Speaker 6: a route where you're going, where you helping out at

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Speaker 6: and there's gonna be some one on one matches across

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Speaker 6: the front. Now your hope is that, all right, Tyrant,

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Speaker 6: that you're able to move lotterally enough and be quick

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Speaker 6: enough to get out there and not hold Tyron. You

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Speaker 6: can mark this. Tyran will have at least two holding

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Speaker 6: penalties in this game. It's coming is Tyron will have

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Speaker 6: two holding penalties in this game because that's to kind

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Speaker 6: of skit off that Thibodeau has. Now you're going to

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Speaker 6: have the power to over kind of throw Tyrann. But

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Speaker 6: his speed is what's going to help him significantly in

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Speaker 6: this football game. So it's gonna be a fun matchup.

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Speaker 6: This is gonna be this This is they got this

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Speaker 6: one good. This is gonna be a good one.

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Speaker 8: And I'm gonna wanna reiterate what you said, Yesse, because

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Speaker 8: we talked about it.

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Speaker 4: As soon as we knew it was a new offense.

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Speaker 4: The why reces That's why I keep saying who with

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Speaker 8: In the quarterback had the only way that Cowboys lose games.

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Speaker 4: In the East, it's turnovers.

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Speaker 8: And that's the only way they're gonna lose games because

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Speaker 4: It's gonna cost you. We cannot turn the rock over all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Let's take our last break. When we come back,

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Speaker 5: All right, I got a Twitter question.

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Speaker 6: No, you have to give you have to give your

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we do have an answer, not an answer.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. Well I don't know how we

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna tell you what. There ain't another show.

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Speaker 2: It took us two weeks, but we got it.

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Speaker 4: So there you go.

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Speaker 5: That's funny.

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Speaker 2: All right, what else you got?

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Speaker 5: I got a question here that might fit into what

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Speaker 5: we've been talking about already. This is from our man

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Speaker 5: g and Jersey. He says, is this the fastest offense

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Speaker 5: the boys have put on the field? And how does

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Speaker 5: that benefit the West Coast. Are they bringing a difference ever?

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Speaker 5: Spread them what we're used to.

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Speaker 8: Oh, they go hand in hand, the West Coast go

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Speaker 8: hand in hand. We used to play the forty nine.

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Speaker 8: Is the originator, Coach Walsh that they had speed all

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Speaker 8: over the field man, they could, they could get going

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Speaker 8: quick and but they were the precision route runners with

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Speaker 8: that speed.

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Speaker 6: That's the ding ding ding ding. That's it right there.

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Speaker 6: It's the precision. The speed is fine, it's the precision

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Speaker 6: that's going to be telling y'all that's going to be key.

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Speaker 4: How is Cooks his route running? Because well, sweet, he can.

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Speaker 6: Fly rights, he has combination.

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Speaker 2: And how is cd is a route runner?

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Speaker 6: I'm loving CD Lamb. Really, I've never loved the I

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Speaker 6: should take that back. I'm loving CD Lamb. I am,

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Speaker 6: I am so geeked up?

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Speaker 2: Is he is either one of them? As good as

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Speaker 2: a route runner is Amari Cooper. Now on a different level,

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Speaker 2: that's a different, different level.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't mean that they're not good, right, Interesting, he's the

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Speaker 3: elite of elite.

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Speaker 6: Certain people just leave over there, like Vante, you know,

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Speaker 6: Stefan Diggs. Guys like that. You just y'all over here,

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Speaker 6: running all over here. But those CD and and Brandon

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Speaker 6: are really good, and that's different. That's it's just different.

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Speaker 3: It's just so back to the question, I can't think

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Speaker 3: unless I'm missing somebody in the two thousands, a team

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Speaker 3: in the two thousands, a team that's this.

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Speaker 6: I'll say this was from the receiver perspective.

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Speaker 2: Offensively anyway, it's top.

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Speaker 6: Heavy because I'll say, we know what CD is going

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Speaker 6: to bring. I'm so excited to see him. I really am.

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you, I think he's got they take off

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Speaker 6: and we know what Brandon Cook's consistent thousand yard receiver.

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Speaker 6: We're still waiting to see what my gallup is going

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Speaker 6: to be and we're hoping, we're hoping, we're hoping. Let

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Speaker 6: me say that a third time, that Jalen Tobrit takes

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Speaker 6: the jump. We saw signs of it during training camp

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Speaker 6: that looks like he was going that way. But again,

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Speaker 6: it's a different it's a different monster. When you got

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Speaker 6: to get out there on Sunday and things are moving

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Speaker 6: a lot faster than they are in practice. So he's

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Speaker 6: gotten a chance to work up against guys like uh

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Speaker 6: Trayvon Diggs and like Stefan Gilmore. But when lights come

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Speaker 6: on Sunday night, will that moment be big, too big

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Speaker 6: for him or will he be in a comfortable spot.

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Speaker 6: So I'll say that it's top heavy with those two

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Speaker 6: guys and we're still questioning what they're going to be

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Speaker 6: at tight end Ferguson, No, no, no, no, I'm not saying

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Speaker 6: that like who's gonna play there?

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Speaker 8: But know all that that the last kid had that

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Speaker 8: went down the road south. This kid got it in

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Speaker 8: a livid more Yeah. Yeah, but all that got to

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Speaker 8: do is believe.

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Speaker 3: But then if you throw in running back to the

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Speaker 3: speed equation, like I think you're faster running back with

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Speaker 3: Pollard than you than you?

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Speaker 6: My process come faster, right, right, But what I'm saying

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Speaker 6: is like I'm not taking a shot.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, not at all.

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Speaker 8: You gave that you know what look you gave was

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Speaker 8: of course Shannon obviously, but no, that is obvious.

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Speaker 3: But if you think about it, like even think back,

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Speaker 3: even think back to like the T the t O days, right,

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Speaker 3: you still had Marion Barber, which wasn't the fastest, but

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Speaker 3: he was good. Like as far as having speed at

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Speaker 3: every position, Yeah, I feel like this is the fastest,

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Speaker 3: hell maybe the fastest ever team on paper. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: what do you think.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but Landry has some school were back

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Speaker 4: in the day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, back in the old dinosaurs.

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Speaker 2: Back in the seventies.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because the rest of them jokers was running around there.

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Speaker 6: Well let's not let's but the speed.

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Speaker 2: Up compare now.

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Speaker 3: But if you think about the nineties, the great teams

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Speaker 3: of the nineties, you know, you.

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Speaker 8: Had Michael Mike was fast, but he wasn't the fastest.

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Speaker 4: No, Mike went fast. You had Al wasn't fast.

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Speaker 8: Kevin Martin probably was the four fastest, probably about a

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Speaker 8: four four eight.

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Speaker 4: That was the fan.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you'd have to probably go back to sevenies.

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Speaker 5: True, Pearson was not fast.

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Speaker 4: But but Tony Tony Hill was. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they had some receivers. They've always had some fast guys.

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Speaker 8: It won't a bunch like maybe now. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 8: I guess we'll see.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait.

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Speaker 4: Gave my man you know what, see, that's what I'm like,

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Speaker 4: he gets.

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Speaker 8: He gave his boy a thold sympathetic Yes, let me

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Speaker 8: teach you did look.

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Speaker 2: Then, yeah, I gave you.

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Speaker 4: That old non Come on, man, don't don't turn on

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Speaker 4: you in the middle. In the middle of the snow.

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Speaker 6: My lord, his lies, a curtain curt.

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Speaker 2: On dog.

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Speaker 6: As the wind blows as I go, the only ride

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Speaker 6: of Kurt, This was this was this was good to ask.

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Speaker 5: You got thirty bucks, right, but.

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Speaker 6: You want to eight dollars? The heroes work.

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm gonna break down and go go buy that.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give it to Kurt so he can hang

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Speaker 3: it in his A.

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Speaker 6: Boy, I'm gonna get Hurt now, I'm gonna get I

916
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Speaker 6: got you, Kurt. I can see them all to Kurt,

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Speaker 6: my boy.

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Speaker 4: A post game interview.

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Speaker 6: Kurt, Ye, yeah, hate y'all what we got?

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Speaker 8: It's okay, We all right, we'll go hang out at all.

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Speaker 4: One of the local calls use that's why you hang out,

922
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Speaker 4: you know, do his extra work.

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Speaker 6: I can't wait to be in this show because I've

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Speaker 6: been itching to say something and I know I shouldn't

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Speaker 6: say on air that would get me in trouble. But

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Speaker 6: as soon as we break I'm saying that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right.

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Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, we have a call.

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Speaker 3: Oh we have Friday well taking calls a eight eight

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Speaker 3: five nine, seven.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We have a special birthday in the house today.

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Speaker 3: It is our wonderful producer Chris beams son's birthday.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, birthday.

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Speaker 8: He finally got seven years old. His age caught up

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Speaker 8: to his side.

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Speaker 2: Let's twelve, yeah twelve.

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Speaker 6: In addition to Chris's son's birthday, rest his soul. My

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Speaker 6: uncle is my favorite uncle. His birthday is today as well,

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Speaker 6: So happy birthday, Uncle, Ronnie. Uncle Ronnie.

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Speaker 4: He's come by and play which you pick you up?

942
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Speaker 6: He actually didn't leave me on the porch. He was

943
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Speaker 6: the one that stuffed in you and my father and

944
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Speaker 6: the rest of you. I love you. He was the

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Speaker 6: one that said, I got your nephew, I got you.

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Speaker 3: It was great to actually talks and os and football

947
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Speaker 3: and you know what.

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Speaker 2: Jesse, I learned something from you today. I hope so

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Speaker 2: I did and you two day. This was a good show.

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Speaker 4: I learned, I learned.

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Speaker 3: I'm more interested to learn tomorrow about Cowboys defense and

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Speaker 3: Giants offense pre season.

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Speaker 4: Baby, they just count all right.

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Speaker 3: Let's get it again tomorrow, same time, same place, see

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Speaker 3: you then hanging with the boys, two people show by.

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Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

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