1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: The Action Network podcast named vest vetting Podcast or radio 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: show by the Fantasy Sports and Gaming Association and the 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: number one show for the invested sports fan. 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: Without further ado, That's. 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 3: What the game's all about, all asten. You feel like 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 3: you can't miss. 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: I'n make that. 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: If you try that again, absolutely trying to. 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Action Network Podcast. I'm seeing 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: your NBA writer for the Action Network, Matt Moore me 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: on Twitter at HP Basketball. You can follow our great 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: content at Action Network HQ. Today's a special NBA edition 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: of the Action Network Podcast. I'll be talking to Robbie 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: Callend of up Rocks. Great writer, longtime friend, awesome guy, 15 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: also degenerate us to complete degenerates. You have not lived 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: until you've seen Robbie in Vegas. You can follow him 17 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: on Twitter at our Calendar KA L L A N D. 18 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: He's worked at CBS Sports and at the Atlanta Hawks. 19 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: He's a current writer for up Rocks and Dime. He's 20 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: also one of the hosts of the Puntcast alongside Tom 21 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 2: Framnelle from CBS Sports. Great mind to talk about gambling 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 2: with avid NBA fans. We had a lot of fun 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: in this episode talking about the futures as the NBA 24 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 2: hopefully heads towards the resumption, we'll see how that goes. 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: Still very much on the edge of you know, danger there, 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: but as the games are still set to be played, 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: we have lines, we have futures. I talked to Robbie 28 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: about all sorts of those. 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Is if 38 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: there's going to be a resumption, as if there's gonna 39 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: be games played, as if you know this whole thing 40 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: is gonna work out, Because let's have some optimism for 41 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: God's sakes, and Lord knows, the NBA is operating with 42 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: as much optimism as it can. Let's start with with 43 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: championship odds. I don't build like one position, and a 44 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: lot of what I already got in on was I 45 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: tend to focus in preseason on conference odds, and I 46 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: did that. I've got I bet that that's gonna in 47 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 2: eight sweet more games will eventually cash for the Lakers 48 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: to finish with more games or with more wins than 49 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: the Clippers. And I've got the division winner on the Lakers. 50 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: I've got a position on the Bucks in the Eastern 51 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: Conference to win that. I wanted to wait to figure 52 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: out my head. I'm going to hedge on the on 53 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 2: the Bucks, and then as it gets closer, I'm the 54 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: head even more. Let's go ahead. Everyone kind of has 55 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: their one of the three? 56 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: Is there? 57 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: Everyone's stakes position on one of the big three, the Bucks, 58 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: the Clippers, and the Lakers to win the title. We've 59 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: got Bucks plus two forty. This is a FanDuel Lakers 60 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: plus two sixty, Clippers at plus three twenty at draft 61 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: Kings you can get that at plus I believe plus 62 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: three thirty three for the clip. So that's a little 63 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: juice here there. Where do you wind up planting your 64 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: flag on the three main hills for NBA title, I. 65 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 4: Would say the Bucks, although I think I think the 66 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 4: path through the East gets a little more interesting then 67 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: maybe I think people thought maybe if the season ended 68 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: on time. I don't hate the Clippers Clippers juice, especially 69 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 4: as we as we kind of wait to see what 70 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 4: happens with you know, maybe Dwight opting out. We're still 71 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 4: not sure about that. If you told people back when 72 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: Dwight signed with the Lakers that he would be as 73 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: as I think key to them, as as he has been, 74 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: I think people would kind of roll their eyes a bit. 75 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 4: But he's been important for them, and if he opts out, 76 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 4: then you know, that takes away some of what that 77 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 4: advantage the Lakers had over the Clippers was, which was 78 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: just the waves of bigs that they can throw at them. 79 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 4: And I think that was the concern all along in 80 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 4: a playoff series between the Lakers and the Clippers, was like, well, 81 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: how do the Clippers deal with that size and deal 82 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: with the physical toll for seven games? If Dwight ops 83 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 4: out and they're whoever they bring in, is it gonna 84 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 4: be able to bring quite that same value? So I 85 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 4: don't hate the Clippers there. I still just lean Bucks, 86 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 4: like if they're bringing everybody down, I just I just 87 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 4: think they're They're the complete team in this thing and 88 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 4: have the fewest question marks. 89 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: So I'm probably gonna build some sort of position that 90 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: stakes around the Lakers and the Bucks. Like that's probably 91 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: where I'm gonna wind up, and we'll talk some more 92 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: about it that I've found here a little bit. But 93 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: I have been a Clipper skeptic for much of the season, 94 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: so like, the idea of the Clippers is always I 95 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: think greater than what they've actually been except for very 96 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: few circumstances. And the problem is the entire season it's 97 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: been like, well, they didn't have everybody, and then when 98 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: they have everybody, it's like, well, they're not really trying. 99 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: And then they would have these games where they would 100 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: come out and they would just absolutely beat the snot 101 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: out of you. That's the team, Like, that's the one 102 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: I'm betting on, And I wind up being like very 103 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: skeptical of that for a number of reasons, like I 104 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: don't know how a lou Williams opt out would impact things, 105 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 2: Like he's still on the fence. K Doc said today 106 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 2: he thinks he's but he hasn't been Lou's still deciding. 107 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 2: I don't know how much that really should impact things, 108 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: given like lose very much us bardon a phrase from 109 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: how they used to describe Michael Red bombs over Bagdad, 110 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: like gonna hit both sides of the line. The Clippers, though, 111 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: to me, it's just a matter of even if Dwight's out, 112 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 2: you're still gonna have the lob threat from JaVale McGee 113 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: and Anthony Davis. 114 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: Sure, sure, I just I just I just like from it, 115 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: does I think impact it? Like just from a like 116 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 4: I mean, the thing is like now the Lakers. Now 117 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 4: you're saying, okay, what's been the thing about Javail with 118 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: the Warriors that we always talked about, It is like 119 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 4: you can get him in doses and you can kind 120 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 4: of concentrate his effort into these bursts. If you have 121 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 4: to play more minutes, then you open up you know, 122 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 4: then you open up Pandora Javail's box. You know, you 123 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 4: open up this opportunity for Javail to do Javail things 124 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 4: more often than when you can focus that energy that 125 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 4: he has into these like six minute bursts. 126 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: I agree with that. I think one of the big 127 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 2: things here is is everyone knows like how deadly the 128 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: lineups with Anthony Davis at the five are. Conceptually, it's 129 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: just the Davis hates playing it. He just hates shit 130 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: in five. But if he doesn't have any other choice. 131 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: Then he'll put it. Thanks for my help. 132 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: Sure it might be hard on him, like he may 133 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: have really hard time, but if it's better for the team, 134 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: then it's better for the team and allows you to 135 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: get you know, it theoretically allows you to get more 136 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: minutes with Kuzma on the floor next to those two 137 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 2: to cover up for Kuzma's defense, right, Like as an 138 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: idea I think is at least good. Sure, So I 139 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: don't like, are you with me on this? I don't 140 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: like any if you're gonna be able to a position 141 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: on titles. I don't want to take any of the 142 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 2: East teams beyond Milwaukee. I want to focus in on 143 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 2: just their Eastern Conference title odds like I don't want 144 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: to take that Toree. I take to move on the 145 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: Celtics and the Heat who will talk about the second 146 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: and I think have legitimate chances to upset the Bucks 147 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: as big as I am on the Bucks. I'm trying 148 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: to get myself into a place where I'm not blindsided 149 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: by them losing again. But if they do beat the Bucks, 150 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: I don't give those teams a real chance versus either 151 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: a Lakers or Clippers team, even after they've gone through 152 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: what is probably gonna be a pretty brutal Western Conference Finals. 153 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: I still like either the Lakers or Clippers. I just 154 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: think those teams are overall better than Celtics, Heat, Raptors, Sixers. 155 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: That's it. That's a list, yep. So like, so you're 156 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: with me on that idea that if you're gonna go 157 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: title odds, don't go on any of the East teams, 158 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: even if you're gonna build like a one long shot 159 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: into it, take a team from the West. 160 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I would agree. 161 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 4: I think I think maybe the one team and look 162 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: like maybe as far as value on this board at 163 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 4: twenty eight to one, I'm interested in, like I have, 164 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 4: I have enough interest in the Sixers that I with 165 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 4: Ben Simmons coming back and his back being healthy and 166 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: maybe alhr forgiving whatever the little whispery Achilles stuff, maybe 167 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 4: he's feeling better, Like there's enough. There's enough there with 168 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 4: like the Sixers getting everybody healthy that I I that 169 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 4: would be the one that I would have interesting because 170 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,559 Speaker 4: they are the one that I look at matchup wise 171 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 4: with Lakers and the Clippers, and I say, I can 172 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 4: see it, you know what I'm saying, right, Like, if 173 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 4: you're talking about the team from the East that I 174 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 4: think competes the best with those two in the series 175 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 4: outside of the Bucks, I would say Phillies. Phillies at 176 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 4: the top of my list and at twenty eight to one, 177 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 4: have a bit of interest there, But again I think 178 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 4: I would rather take them on the Eastern Conference outs. 179 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: They're the only team you can look at and go 180 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: if they are the team that they've that they were 181 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: supposed to be all year and never were. If that 182 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: team correct was up, You're you would legitimately be terrified 183 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: of the Sixers, like you would be like oh and 184 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: Being and Simmons and like imagine like Orford doesn't look 185 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: like garbage after you know, Josh Richardson finally figures some 186 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: stuff out and Harris is hot, and like they're just 187 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 2: able to figure out a bunch of stuff like getting 188 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: Simmons back healthy I think definitely helps them just one 189 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: more quick thing on the championship winner, Like Rockets are 190 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: twelve hundred at DraftKings. They are thirteen hundred at fanduels, 191 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: so you can get the best line there. Longest odds 192 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 2: I've seen on the Rockets. You know, I don't like 193 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: Denver because I don't like their chances versus the Lakers, specifically, 194 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: like they're gonna have to go through the Lakers at 195 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: some point, and I don't like their odds there. There's 196 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: a Colorado promotion on FanDuel for the Nuggets to make 197 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: the Western Conference Finals at plus three hundred. That basically means, like, 198 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: you know, are you taking plus three hundred to get 199 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 2: them out of the first round and then out of 200 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: the Clipper series? If you're gonna do that, I would 201 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: like I wrote the article on it, but I would 202 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: probably just wait, and they're gonna be pretty big dogs 203 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: the Clippers anyway. 204 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would think they'd be pretty pretty not far 205 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 4: off from that. They might be in the at least two. 206 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: Hundred, right, Yeah, I think at least two hundred, if 207 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: not longer. So like you should be able to just 208 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: like rotate your if you think that they're gonna do that, 209 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: just take the money from the first round series win 210 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: and put it into the second one. You know, and 211 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: then the rest of those teams, like the Jazz obviously 212 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: like like nothing but red alarms there, like just. 213 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 4: No, we've got I mean, uh, what Conley said today 214 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: that he might it's possible he would leave and then 215 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: come back because his wife's gonna have a baby in August. 216 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: I think so like there's that. There's obviously like Ingles 217 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: has been on. 218 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 4: The fence about about things and it seems like he's 219 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 4: gonna go by me. And then obviously the go Bear 220 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 4: and yeah, no you can miss me with the Jazz, 221 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 4: and they were my funny thing I picked. I decided 222 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 4: to step out on the limb and pick the Jazz 223 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 4: to win it all this year before the season. 224 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 3: Nope, nope, not gonna, not gonna do it. 225 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: I canna do it instead, not gonna be that. Instead, 226 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 2: they're the first to contract COVID nineteen. Good job, what 227 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: do you got? 228 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 3: It was for the best of every really, honestly, let's 229 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: go to the. 230 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: Eastern Conference because I think this is where things get 231 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: the most interesting. Bucks are minus one seventy five, So 232 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: it's not a great I don't even like that as 233 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: like an arbitrage position. Oh good god, no, but I 234 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: do like, like one thing is, if you're gonna go 235 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: along in the bucks to win the title, I might 236 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: be able to talk myself into taking some of these 237 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: long shots to win the East as a little beverage. 238 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: So the Celtics are seven to one, we got plus 239 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: seven hundred on them, Raptors are eight hundred, the Heat 240 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: are nine hundred, and the Sixers are nine hundred. Let's 241 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: go ahead and remove Pacers at twenty nine hundred nets, magic, 242 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: et cetera. 243 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 4: So catch me on the Wizards plus fifteen thousand, sixteen. 244 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 4: What are you doing without without just RUI? We're just 245 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 4: baking on RUI becoming a god in Orlando. 246 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: They've got So I keep looking at a Heat plus 247 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: nine hundred. That's the one I keep looking at. 248 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 4: I would take both of the nine hundreds for the 249 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 4: reasons I said about the six year Simmons getting back healthy. 250 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 3: Intrigued by that. 251 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 4: I'm also just in fastuated with like just the idea 252 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: of the Sixers, and I will admit that inherent bias. 253 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 4: I also as somebody that grew up and grew up 254 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 4: in the business with Al Horford's career, like I just 255 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 4: refuse to believe that if he can get whatever was 256 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 4: hurt healthy again, Like he's he can't have dropped off 257 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 4: this fast in my head, like I just can't allow 258 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 4: it to happen. 259 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: So like I'm banking on an Al Horford bump here, So. 260 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 4: Like I'm interested in sixers, but I agree like the 261 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 4: heat for that three point shooting, I like him. You know, 262 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 4: that's the type of thing that can take this Bucks 263 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 4: team out right, Like you're just like it's it's the 264 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 4: team that can just shoot the hell out of the 265 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 4: ball for five games, because the Bucks are in the 266 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 4: territory that the old Lebron teams used to be in, 267 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 4: and well, I guess it's still Lebron teams where if 268 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 4: you're going against him, you better play five near perfect 269 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 4: games because they're gonna win one where you play incredible 270 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 4: basketball because of that guy, you know, because of Yannis see. 271 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 4: But the heat of the type of team that can 272 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 4: just they can just shoot it, and that's that those 273 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 4: are the teams that can that can sneak up on 274 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 4: on a team like the Bucks because as we know, 275 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: Bud Bud will pack the paint and give you some 276 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 4: of those threes. And the goal, of course is not 277 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 4: to give him to Duncan Robinson, but they got enough 278 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 4: guys that just knock down shots that it could get interesting. 279 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 4: If Nun's hot, if heroes hot, Jimmy makes his stuff, 280 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 4: they're interesting. And they have a guy in Bam that 281 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 4: is an intriguing matchup with Giannis on the defensive end. 282 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say he's the guy that can stop you, 283 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 4: honest or even really slowly honest, but just make things 284 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 4: uncomfortable at times. 285 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: So I wint that being pretty drawn to the heat, 286 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: I found this little matchup wrinkle. The Bucks are I 287 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 2: think sixteenth defending handoffs. Dho's the reason that is the 288 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: heat of the number one team in the league at 289 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 2: those little handoffs, like they just they give Kelly Ollenik 290 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: and Arbana Abaya the ball at the high post or 291 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: even off ball, and they run guys over the screens 292 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 2: and they just get Kendrick Nunn or Duncan Robinson. And 293 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: in some cases they have the guard screening clinic, which 294 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: is a nice little wrinkle that they pulled or popping 295 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: out of that action, Like they'll run an off ball 296 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: screen using a Linux for like Kendrick Nunn, and then 297 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: a link will roll out of that into a pop 298 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 2: and he'll have the three. And that kind of volume 299 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: scares me versus the box because when I went back 300 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: and I decided to go back and watch all the 301 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: tape from the Heat's performances versus versus Milwaukee, Brooks still dropping. 302 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: Every single time, Brooks dropping, and I'm just like, they're 303 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: gonna play his ass off the floor. Like I love Briklopez. 304 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: I love Bricklopez, but they lay his ass off the floor. 305 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: If it's Miami, the scenario is maybe wait and make 306 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: sure that you can get ideally like the Heat in 307 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: the four spot and the Sixers in the sixth spot. 308 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 4: Like I think that's the I think that's that's the 309 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 4: question is is where you come down where the seving 310 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 4: comes Because here's the thing. 311 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 3: Once once we get into the bottle, I don't. 312 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 4: Think these prices are changing a ton right in that 313 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 4: regular season here, And I think the nice thing we're 314 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 4: not having a playoff game, a playing game in the 315 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 4: East or anything, but having that playing game and that 316 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 4: built in, it's kind of nice going into this because 317 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 4: you're gonna have a couple of days where we know 318 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 4: what it is and so you don't have to be 319 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 4: guessing on the last day of the season to get 320 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 4: to get the price. So I'm with you, And honestly, 321 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 4: if the Heat do draw four and in these stays 322 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 4: in five, then I think you're you know, as far 323 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 4: as like price, you're gonna look good because it's gonna 324 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 4: the reason the heater that far back is there's a 325 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: better chance they're gonna run into the bucks earlier, and 326 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: that's why the heat price is where it is compared. 327 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: To the sixers. 328 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 4: So maybe the heat price probably drops if they shuffle 329 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 4: out of the four or the five somehow, So maybe 330 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 4: take the heat now, because I don't think their price 331 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 4: gets better if they maneuver. 332 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: I agree, I agree with that. 333 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: That's a good that's a good point. I'm just looking 334 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: for all the ways in which this is gonna wind 335 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: up with the Raptors once again costing me. 336 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: Just oh, it's it's for sure. Let's talk about this. 337 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 3: This would build a day. 338 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 4: On a call, we were like, this is like the 339 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: Raptors do weird shit, and so like, isn't this like 340 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 4: the weirdest possible place, and like Kyle Lowry's just gonna 341 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 4: thrive in weird, sloppy bubble basketball. Yeah, He's like the 342 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 4: bane of this. He's like, oh, I was born in 343 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 4: the slop, like I was born in like really ugly 344 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 4: basketball where I'm stepping in front of everybody and drawing 345 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: charges and just barreling to. 346 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: The and like you know, I could see it. I 347 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: can see it. 348 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, because like let's say that it's if it's Bucks, 349 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: if it's heat four, six or six, and the Celtics 350 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: stay in the three spot, that's perfect. I'm like, oh, 351 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: the Celtics can't beat the Sixers because they lost Horford 352 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: and Baines and then beat absolutely tears them a new one, 353 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: okay them, And then I've got this like weird amalgam 354 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: Raptors team that almost lost to the Sixers last year. Yeah, 355 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: Butler's gone, but so is Kawhi, and then like the 356 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: Raptors will just wind up winning and then beating the Bucks. 357 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: Like I just need to go ahead and put money 358 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: Ontors plus eight hundred because it's the one outcome I 359 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 2: can't really foresee. Like I've been on the on the 360 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 2: train of I've been pointing this out pretty consistently, which 361 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: is the Raptors are sixteenth and half court offense per possession, 362 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 2: So like if you go back and watch. It's one 363 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: thing I picked up because I started watching clips of 364 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: their overall offense and was like okay, and I was like, 365 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: that's a lot of transition. And then I started noticing 366 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: like they kind of screw up a lot of stuff 367 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: in the half court. And then I was like, what 368 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: are they Like they gotta be like twelve or ten. 369 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: I was like sixteenth, So I've been on that wagon. 370 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: But then I also look on like the Celtics are fourteenth, 371 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, they're not gangbusters either, but 372 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: I just know I gotta I'm gonna have to figure 373 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 2: out a way for me to just build a Raptor's 374 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 2: hedge to everything into whatever position I take on the 375 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: Eastern Conference. 376 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 4: So I mean, I think, and this this goes to 377 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 4: that point of like just take them now at eight hundred, 378 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 4: they're gonna get either Brooklyn who's sending nobody, or Orlando. 379 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 3: Just like not very good. 380 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 4: Like we saw how that series goes last year. Okay, uh, 381 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 4: and they're gonna be playing you know, especially if if 382 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 4: if it stays as is and Boston faces Philly, whoever 383 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 4: comes out of that series is gonna beat up and 384 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 4: so like it just it just shakes out so well 385 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 4: for Toronto. You know, if if it ends up being 386 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 4: that three, like I think if you're Milwaukee, you're kind 387 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 4: of hoping maybe Miami and Philly have to play each 388 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 4: other in that first round, right, because then they'll wear 389 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 4: each other out. 390 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:38,239 Speaker 2: Uh. 391 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: But like Boston, Boston Philly are. 392 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 4: Where we've seen these games play, Like we know how 393 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 4: they're gonna play against each other. 394 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: They hate each other. 395 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 4: They're gonna treat it like a finals, and they're gonna 396 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 4: be doing so having played eight games before going at 397 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 4: each other. So they're just gonna gass each other out. 398 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 4: So like. 399 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 3: Probably take the Raptors. I just I just I don't know. 400 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 3: I still like as dumb as it is, I still. 401 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 4: Just don't quite believe it. Yeah, you know, like I 402 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 4: just I see the evidence in front of the media 403 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 4: and I'm like, eh, I'm not sure, you know, like not, 404 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 4: there's no way, and so naturally they'll be in there. 405 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 4: It'll be Raptors what should be like Raptors Jazz after 406 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 4: we just buried both teams. 407 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 2: Hey, just a reminder, guys, if you're enjoying this podcast, 408 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: and I know that you are, make sure to leave 409 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: a five star review on Apple Podcasts on the app 410 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 2: or through the web or whatever device you choose. 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Let's say Beal 420 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: decides to because as it like, the trend has been 421 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: that a lot of guys that I thought were on 422 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 2: the fence are apparently as of right now when I'm 423 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: recording this gonna play. They can change their minds later. 424 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: But like that's been the trend is that there are 425 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 2: several guys that I was like going into today being 426 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: like they're probably gonna announce that they're out, and they didn't. 427 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: So I know where I know where you're gonna go 428 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: with this. 429 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: So so okay, you have the nets and Spencer Dimwitdy 430 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: is like a maybe. 431 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 4: It's just what they've said is like I don't and 432 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 4: that's a few I mean, like the thing is it's 433 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 4: not even like he's got to recover for symptoms. 434 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 3: Like there are people. There are people like there's a 435 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: there are people that have had this thing and like 436 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: it lasts like thirty forty days or longer, yeah it's 437 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: or longer, like it's it. This thing can be gnarly, like. 438 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: Fine, the entire thing is horrifying, and then oh it's terror. 439 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 3: It's terrifying. 440 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 2: Everything is terrifying. 441 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: I live there. I live in Arizona. I am terrified. 442 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: Everything horrible place to be. 443 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: Like I've I've loved Spencer dimwity and want him to 444 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 2: be healthy and want him to be good. Yes even 445 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: if he even like let's seen that happens that he 446 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: does play. They're still without Kyrie, They're still without Katie. 447 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 2: They're without Wilson Chandler. They're without DeAndre Jordan, which isn't 448 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: really a loss because it means more Jared Alltman and 449 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: they're better with Jared correct jacque Bon coaching not great there, Uh, 450 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: don't feel good about that. The schedule is the big 451 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: thing here. Okay, they've play their easy games are Orlando twice, 452 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 2: with direct implication for Orlando to be like, yes, we 453 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 2: want to win this game to get the hell out 454 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: of the buck slot right like correct, because they know 455 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: they could beat Toronto at least once. 456 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: They're just gonna just just DJ Augustine out one more 457 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: time and send them out. 458 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: They're gonna they're gonna win game one no matter what. 459 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: And then the Wizards obviously have have if deal plays 460 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: and they're trying to make it even without Bretons. They've 461 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: been a it's high variants. It's a high three point 462 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: attack that plays well versus Brooklyn, which doesn't necessarily do 463 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: that kind of play that kind of style. So so 464 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 2: you've got that's the potential for three losses even versus 465 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: the weak teams. You've got an early game versus Milwaukee 466 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: when Milwaukee may still have something to play for. You 467 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: have an early game versus Boston when they will definitely 468 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: have something to play for. The Kings are absolutely at 469 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 2: that point still going to be competing for a playoff spot. 470 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: The Clippers, who knows. At that point it's late and 471 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: then and that one's probably done. Their last game is 472 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: versus Portland. That's probably winnable, but those are like, that's 473 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: a really bad schedule because my concern is not how 474 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: tough are the teams that you're playing. My concern is 475 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: how motivated are the teams that you're playing. Sure, the 476 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 2: next profile is very, very motivated versus the last three 477 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: games for the Wizards are the thunder who at that 478 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: point will probably be locked into either five or six, 479 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: Milwaukee and Boston, and those two will almost definitely be 480 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 2: locked where they are. So like the rest of those 481 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: teams they've got, the Wizards have Phoenix that's winnable. They 482 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: have Brooklyn that's winnable. They have Indiana that's winnable because 483 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: Indiana is a low three point team, might be without Oladipo. 484 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 2: That's a winnable game. Philadelphia is sure, that's a loss. 485 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 2: The Pelicans, I'll even give. 486 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 4: You that one. 487 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: That's a loss. But you got three remaining teams that 488 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: are good but not are gonna have questionable motivation, and 489 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: the front three games, which are very winnable, Like, that's 490 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: a police get them into a playoff. And I kind 491 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: of like the Wizards in a play in situation, it's 492 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 2: plus seven to fifty. 493 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: I get the argument, like, like I do. 494 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 4: I get the argument they show as I won't be 495 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 4: plus seven to fifty in that series, So like you're 496 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 4: you know, I mean like a little sprinkle. I get 497 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 4: the high three point aggressive attack, but man, I feel 498 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 4: like you take a lot. 499 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: Of teeth out of that without Burton's. Yeah, we talk 500 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 3: about like you go watch those videos like. 501 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 4: Breton's and he's just pulling from anywhere and you just 502 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 4: always have to be up in this space because he'll 503 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 4: just pull up off the dribble from thirty two feet 504 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 4: and make it. He's such a weapon for them, not 505 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 4: just in you know, half court running off of stuff. 506 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: He's he's he makes their transition game so much better 507 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 4: because he just does these little you know, he just 508 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 4: jogs up the floor into trailer positions and so you 509 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 4: think you have your defense and he's then the next 510 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 4: thing you know, he's spotting up from twenty nine feet 511 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 4: because you weren't thinking, you know, you don't think about that, 512 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 4: you don't think about that six' ten guy is going 513 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 4: to take that, shot Right and he killed teams all 514 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 4: year with, that and so that's where and that's part 515 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 4: of where their pace comes. From, yeah is like a 516 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: lot of that pace is then Letting berton's let fly 517 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 4: five seconds in the shot Clot. 518 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: They can't replace, That and SO I i see what you're. 519 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 4: SAYING i you, KNOW i like the, VISION i like 520 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 4: THE i like the, moxie but it's not SOMETHING i 521 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 4: would play just, because LIKE i think he is so 522 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 4: much more key than than maybe a lot of people 523 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 4: realize to what that offense is able to, do particularly 524 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 4: at the pace that they want to play, at which 525 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 4: just gets teams kind of off of their, game both 526 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 4: offensively and defensively because they're they're suddenly in a track, 527 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 4: meet and then, defensively even when you think maybe you're 528 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 4: set in semi, transition that element is always there with 529 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 4: especially with him on one side And bill on the, 530 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 4: Other like they'll just randomly take twenty eight foot threes 531 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 4: and now you can kind of just lock in on 532 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 4: deal even if he's. 533 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: There, yeah those are all really good. POINTS i may 534 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 2: have already grabbed them at plus thirteen hundred before the. 535 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 3: Move, sure oh that's the thing that might. 536 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: OCCUR i was really interested in. 537 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 3: This and ON, mgm. 538 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: If that's available in your particular, locale they actually Have 539 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: Conference bault, odds which are finals results so specific team 540 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: over team, outcomes WHICH i was very interested to see 541 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 2: the exact outcome the. Finals so you can get, There, 542 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 2: Clippers bucks at plus five, fifty you Get, Bucks, Clippers 543 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: bucks Beat clippers at plus nine. Hundred you've got and 544 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 2: then you can throw in The, lakers like there's all 545 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 2: THESE i Got, Bucks, Lakers, Bucks clippers in preseason for 546 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 2: exact final. LOTS i took A i put together a 547 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: package in, preseason so this allows MEDIA i have even 548 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 2: more jews on the exact. Outcome And i'm really tempted by. 549 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: This are there any that you think are really? Interesting 550 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: beyond those three Standard. 551 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 4: There's a lot of, outcomes so there's a lot to 552 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 4: scroll through. Here, also just for Your, wizards are plus 553 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 4: nine hundred to make the playoffs AT mgm rather than 554 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 4: the seven to fifty that more interested in shop it 555 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 4: do that sort of. 556 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: THING i basically pick a team that you think in 557 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 2: The Eastern conference can upset No. Walking like let's say 558 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: we take the premise that we had earlier about The, sixers, 559 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: right The bucks are, vulnerable one of those teams can beat, 560 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: them and then you Pick you basically pick Whichever Western 561 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: conference team you think is gonna win From Lakers. 562 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 4: Clippers, yeah, no you got so you Got lakers plus 563 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 4: thirty five hundred over the six. SERIES i Think clippers 564 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 4: are forty the. One, like if we just did the 565 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 4: heat and the sixers right and just did The Clippers 566 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 4: clippers over And lakers over, them you're gonna make more 567 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 4: than betting the two plus nine. Hundred it's even with 568 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 4: four things doubt liability. 569 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 2: Wise, Right you're making money by basically SAYING i do 570 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: not think that that anyone, below like anyone besides The 571 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: lakers And clippers are making it out of The Western. 572 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: CONFERENCE i think that there's it's just a really interesting 573 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 2: prop to me to look, at Like Lakers Lakers celtics 574 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: being plus three thousand is, like that's pretty, Healthy Lakers 575 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: raptors is plus three, thousand like getting thirty to one 576 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 2: on those when like a playoff when your final series 577 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 2: is going to be so much shorter, obviously but you're 578 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 2: just sold on the idea The lakers are going to 579 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: win The west and you're like The bucks are not gonna, 580 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: Win LIKE i don't know who The bucks are not gonna. 581 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 2: Win you can put together a position the factors in 582 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 2: Like heat Six, ers one Of Celtics, raptors whichever one 583 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 2: you think wins that, series and you're in a you're 584 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 2: in a pretty choice position. 585 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 4: If you know what you know what this is maybe 586 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 4: where you get your little rap's hedge. In, yeah, YEAH 587 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 4: i think this this is this is where for you 588 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 4: thirty five to One clippers Over, raptors thirty to One Lakers, 589 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 4: overaptors you're talking about, like how DO i maximize a hedge? 590 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: On like this is the one Scenario i'm not taking into, Account, 591 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: Right you do that and then like you're still covering your. 592 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 4: Basis, YEAH i think that's the way i'd play, It, 593 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 4: like especially if you're already out on stuff like if 594 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 4: you are a put put in on on heat And 595 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 4: sixers And celtics or, whatever however you've played, it. 596 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 3: That's how that's how you hedge Those, Okay, uh. 597 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: BEFORE i let you, go, Yep AND i appreciate you 598 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: joining me and taking some, time especially as you're in between, 599 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: movies you're in the process of moving in between. 600 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: Places. 601 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: UH i want to get your thoughts actually ON nfl 602 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: real quick and ask you a division or conference that 603 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: you have been particularly like really interested. In, oh let's 604 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: see what because like my big like the one THING 605 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: i singled in on Is i'm all in on The. 606 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 2: BEARS i decided to go super No Simon hunter on 607 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: our on the, favorites which you. Have millman was the 608 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: first one to put it that in my, head and 609 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: the MORE i looked at, it like if we assume 610 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 2: The packers are going to take a step backwards and 611 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: the things are likely to be up, there but you 612 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 2: know they're they're, vulnerable and both those teams The patagaan 613 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: suggest that they're vulnerable owls coming into an offense that 614 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: was built for. Him And i'm GETTING i got plus 615 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: four twenty five for them to win The north That 616 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: i'm big. On on that, Position i'm also big ON 617 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: i basically took The packers not to. WIN i picked. 618 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: THEM i got them on on good plus on second 619 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: place and third. Place So i'm basically, SAYING i don't 620 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: know who's gonna win the, division but it's not gonna be. 621 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 4: The packers as far as divisional, Bets like there's a 622 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 4: part of ME i wants to Take falcons plus seven 623 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 4: hundred because like they're just a weird team and that 624 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 4: offense is so damn. 625 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 3: Good if the. 626 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 4: Defense does anything of, VALUE i think that's just from 627 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 4: a sheer. Value place seven to one in the, division 628 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 4: AND i know The saints are really. GOOD i don't 629 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 4: buy The bucks that much as far as being as 630 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 4: close As saints as the odds say they are at 631 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 4: plus one, sixty there's maybe some long shot value, there you. 632 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 4: KNOW i would look at those and Then saints plus 633 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 4: six fifty's pretty tuo. 634 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: Sy, YEAH i went the other. WAY i went the 635 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: other way on The saints based off OF i have 636 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: a buddy who's like a really Good, saints Big saints, 637 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: fan and he was talking about the defense and he was, 638 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: like for whatever, reason we just played insane defense Whenever 639 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: teddy was in and then Once breeze got, back it just. 640 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: Faded AND i was, like that's like a weird thing 641 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: that just like doesn't make much. Sense and THEN i 642 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: actually like looked at the numbers and he's absolutely one 643 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: hundred percent. Right like the, DEVO i actually went back 644 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: and track their game by, game and it's just ridiculous 645 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: how much better their defense was in those games Where 646 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: Teddy bridgewater was quarterback Than. Breeze so, like if you, 647 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: fact if you take that segment out and then you 648 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: look at like all the other, things the stuff going 649 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: on with, them plus like The BUCKS D B O 650 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: a defensive numbers are, ridiculous but they're just. Insane LIKE 651 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 2: i DIDN'T i wanted to fade The bucks BECAUSE i was, 652 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: LIKE i Think brady's, wash BUT i was, Like, god 653 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: even a wash quarterback is probably gonna win the. Division 654 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: so that's that's WHERE i wound up coming up coming 655 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 2: out on, them LIKE i JUST i can't talk myself 656 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: into The saints with everything that's kind of gone on 657 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: over the past, year actually kind of jogging out that 658 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: they're perceived to. 659 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 4: Be, dude warm my heart if they. WEREN'T i hate The, 660 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 4: saints but so maybe maybe there's a little emotional hedge in. 661 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: There callen My. Brocks make sure to follow him On. 662 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: Twitter they'll be in the bio on the description of 663 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: this episode and On. Twitter, robbie thanks for joining me 664 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: and stay safe. Man, okay oh, pleasure you do the. 665 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 3: Same all? 666 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: Right that rab up for this edition of The Action Network. 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