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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, Sat. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bronis,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. Salutations from Mickey's Spagnola on

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Speaker 1: this Tuesday, May twenty eight, two thousand nineteen, another week

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Speaker 1: of Talking Cowboys after a glorious Memorial Day weekend, and

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Speaker 1: we hope all of you enjoyed yours. Second week of

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Speaker 1: OTA's is underway here at the Star in Frisco. Bill

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Speaker 1: Jones with Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips and Brian brought us.

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Speaker 1: How is everybody's weekend? It's great. It was long. That's

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Speaker 1: the most bad. Good Jason, long weekend, that's the most

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Speaker 1: important thing. It was wonderful. Yeah, very good. Yeah, good

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Speaker 1: all fine auto racing all weekend for me. Really did

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Speaker 1: you go to Indy? No? I try to, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just was denied. So but yeah maybe next year.

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Speaker 1: Not often that Brian brought us is denied. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: you enjoyed it anyway? Yeah, I did enjoyed it. And

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Speaker 1: now ready to get back to work. Already got back

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Speaker 1: to work fo hundred days from kickoff. That's right. I

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Speaker 1: heard that this morning driving in one hundred days from

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Speaker 1: the hundredth season of National Football League action. I guess

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Speaker 1: that's cutting down to the Thursday night game. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: that's not a lot when you think about I know

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Speaker 1: a training camp in between that. Cowboys will be departing

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Speaker 1: for Oxnard on July twenty fifth, So we are now

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Speaker 1: less than two months away from that, which remains were

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Speaker 1: three months away from the start of the season, or basically,

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Speaker 1: basically we're really good math right now, we're less than

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Speaker 1: three months away from Hawaii. Also, some of us have

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Speaker 1: that circled. Let's be a long trip home. Yes it will.

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Speaker 1: And and actually this I was thinking hundredth year of

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Speaker 1: the NFL. It's also the sixtieth season of Dallas Cowboys football.

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Speaker 1: I let's get that confused, Is that right? Bill? Are

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Speaker 1: you sure that it's a season sixtieth season, fifty ninth

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Speaker 1: coming here, but sixty season exactly? See, always get that confused.

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Speaker 1: And I remember in nineteen eighty four somebody came out

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Speaker 1: with and maybe the Dallas Morning News a twenty five years,

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Speaker 1: Silver Anniversary season, All Time Cowboys team. Okay, so my

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Speaker 1: challenge to you is a sixty man roster. Maybe we

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Speaker 1: could do a fifty three man roster and then add

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Speaker 1: coaches to get up to the top sixty and Dallas

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Speaker 1: together a roster, a game day roster. Talked about doing

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Speaker 1: something like that, and I don't think we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: it this year on the website? Did we could do

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Speaker 1: it on Talking cow Did you just give us a

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Speaker 1: project and not tell us what we were doing? Could

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Speaker 1: we have given some thoughts? You're gonna make us do

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Speaker 1: this on the top of our head? Right? No? Not

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Speaker 1: right now. I mean it's just a sort of a

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Speaker 1: summertime project. Okay, Okay, we do we have benchmarks to

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Speaker 1: complete this project or just gonna you know, we're probably

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Speaker 1: about sixty days away from the first Cowboys practice in

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Speaker 1: Hawks and hard What error do you think most of

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Speaker 1: the players would come from? What era of Cowboy history

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Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties seventies? I'm you know, I immediately was penciling. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famers go in Hall of Famers wherever ter positions? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like we got a mail got multiples at some positions.

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Speaker 1: We had a smaller scale running. We had a mail

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Speaker 1: back question a couple of weeks ago, the all time

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Speaker 1: And that's tough because you, I mean, you might take

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Speaker 1: I don't think you'd take them by units. I think

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Speaker 1: to me or is Nate Newton fall on that list? Well,

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying though, That's what I'm saying. But

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Speaker 1: Why didn't I answer that question when the mail back,

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Speaker 1: I didn't think that was a problem at all. I

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, Okay, forty six man roster. It's like a

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Speaker 1: Your head coach has to be Landry, doesn't it. I

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Speaker 1: it should be land second seasons, should defensive coordinator, jimmy

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Speaker 1: like you say, Landry was kind of his own def

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Speaker 1: maybe this is just I mean, it's still longer like

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Speaker 1: popped in my name, that came to my mind, Rob Bryan. Now,

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Speaker 1: And see, that's what costs Jimmy is if you're even

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Speaker 1: Landry back in the day. I know you're talking about that,

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Speaker 1: but jim would be defensive coach. I mean, he took

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Speaker 1: Lowry Lowry, Irving High School exactly. You know who taught

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Speaker 1: probably fifty years ago now, University of Taco exactly. I

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Speaker 1: there you go. There's another one too, Stallings, Stallings, difenive coordinary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah now he was the second Yeah yeah, sorry, Okay, Tom,

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Speaker 1: brought it up trying to be a smart Alec was

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Speaker 1: pulling back the curtain a little bit. Okay, you all,

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Speaker 1: all three of you were there for the first open

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Speaker 1: OTA to the media. Yeah. I was unable to make

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Speaker 1: I think our listeners probably would love to be informed

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Speaker 1: on observations from OTA week number one, even though it

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Speaker 1: open media session tomorrow. What pops out? I was surprised

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Speaker 1: I thought that they showed their hand. Well I don't

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Speaker 1: of something we'd see in training camp. I didn't think

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Speaker 1: and they got those young kids. Yeah, and they didn't

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Speaker 1: Sue of Philo are going to be two of them.

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Speaker 1: To your point, I think he's still a guard. No,

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Speaker 1: he is, Yeah, I as I just said, I think

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Speaker 1: Conor Williams is my guard. You're getting angry again. That's

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Speaker 1: early in the show. I just said he would be

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Speaker 1: They did it out of necessity, it's what you think, Well,

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Speaker 1: Collins came out. Yeah. The only thing you could have done.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you could have thrown a rookie in there.

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Speaker 1: so it makes sense. Um. But yeah, guard is still

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Speaker 1: that what we're saying? Because he had experience doing it

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Speaker 1: but he did it three years in college. Sure, and

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Speaker 1: just a practice. All I'm telling you is what Mark

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Speaker 1: They sewed just left tackle that Connor Williams was playing there.

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Speaker 1: My answer, and to just add to that offensive line

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Speaker 1: probably for a steel Let's see, let's see if we

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Speaker 1: can develop a third round grade here, you know, And

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna hold true. On the defensive line,

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Speaker 1: they've got so many guys, there's not room for everybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah not maybe you go long. I don't know. They

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Speaker 1: kept ten last year. I think you always go along

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Speaker 1: just don't want to grab a guy off the street

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Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. It's not as effective as if

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Speaker 1: you have, say you have a ten guys plus you

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Speaker 1: have maybe two on the practice squad. So here running

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Speaker 1: with twelve thirteen guys. There's nothing wrong with that because

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Speaker 1: you get I say, you've got a veteran offensive line

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Speaker 1: here too. It's had some you know, they've had some

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Speaker 1: issues that left tackle before. You know, they've had some

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Speaker 1: you know, the center. Hopefully he can come all the

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I just think that you have

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Speaker 1: on Talking Cowboys as we are talking second week of

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Speaker 1: OTAs and we're talking big picture with this team and

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Speaker 1: the makeup of this roster. We've get one little glimpse

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Speaker 1: last Wednesday in the first open media session, and of

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Speaker 1: course there are a lot of guys that were taking

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Speaker 1: veteran days off in front of the media last Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: but they're active in these OTAs. We got a lot

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Speaker 1: of injured players coming off surgeries, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: But we're getting a little bit of a glimpse now

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Speaker 1: and it will continue tomorrow our second open media session

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Speaker 1: and then next week, and then the week after that

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Speaker 1: will be the mini camp, and then it's a month

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Speaker 1: off and then us Nard here we come on July

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Speaker 1: twenty fifth. But my question for you guys is is

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Speaker 1: this team a legitimate Super Bowl contender? And if not,

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Speaker 1: then what needs to emerge or needs to happen for

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Speaker 1: them to become one? Where are they lacking as far

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Speaker 1: as that goes, who would like to jump in? It's

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Speaker 1: battle tested, as far as some veteran positions at the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: the running back, across the offensive line and defensive line.

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Speaker 1: I think there's some questions that really what you know?

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Speaker 1: Can the secondary? What's going to happen with Byron Jones?

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Speaker 1: Is he going to miss a game or two? Who's

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Speaker 1: going to play the right corner? If that happens. I

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Speaker 1: think with Sean Lee being back in the mix though,

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Speaker 1: and maybe they'll allow them to play a little bit

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Speaker 1: more base, get three more good linebackers on the field,

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Speaker 1: so defensively that could help. I do feel like the

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Speaker 1: schedule does them absolutely no favorites. They might get off

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Speaker 1: to a great start and then now it's about are

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Speaker 1: you healthy enough? Can you get through the last month?

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Speaker 1: Can you get through that stretch where it's New England

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Speaker 1: you got the Thanksgiving against Buffalo, then it's the Chicago

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Speaker 1: Rams Philly that get that right there could tell you

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Speaker 1: a lot. You don't want to be a team that's

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Speaker 1: going really well then just kind of leaking oil getting

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Speaker 1: into the playoffs. Now, a team like the Rams did

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Speaker 1: it last year. They were able to get the second seed.

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Speaker 1: I think that's really really important for this team. I

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Speaker 1: just don't feel like going the wildcard route and then

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Speaker 1: get to win a divisional game and then win a

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Speaker 1: championship game to get to the super Bowl. I think

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Speaker 1: they have to be the one or the two seed

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Speaker 1: to get through this thing. And so that's where I

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Speaker 1: worry because of the schedule. But I think the roster's

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Speaker 1: good enough. I'll always have questions, can the new offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator get things done? I have faith in the defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: And can the head coach steal me a game or

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Speaker 1: two necessary? Those are always the questions. But I do

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Speaker 1: like the roster the way it's made up right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: New England has kind of proven through the years that, dude,

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Speaker 1: you get that first and second seed, you've got much

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Speaker 1: better change. Yeah, Dallas had the first seed here a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and it didn't work out very well.

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Speaker 1: But I just think playing one less game that just

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Speaker 1: means so much. But it didn't a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: But I think if you look overall, like I say,

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Speaker 1: the Rams kind of sputtered into the into the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but they won enough games where they got the second seed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they had to go to New Orleans and they should

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Speaker 1: have won that game, but New Orleans should have won

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Speaker 1: that game. But yeah, I just like I said, I

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Speaker 1: do like the roster here. I'll do a lot a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think you always have to start inward and then

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Speaker 1: build outward and look first at their division and say

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Speaker 1: are they the best team in their division on paper?

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Speaker 1: And I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: favored to repeat in the East because it's a young

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Speaker 1: football team. Like Brian said, there's not a lot of

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Speaker 1: question marks on this team. You know, starting week one, though,

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Speaker 1: you got to make sure DeMarcus Lawrence is healthy, Byron

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Speaker 1: Jones is healthy. So I guess you could call those questions,

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Speaker 1: but I think they're fairly confident in that you can

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Speaker 1: be a better team year to year and maybe not

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Speaker 1: have a better record than you did the year before.

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Speaker 1: And that is where the schedule comes in because it

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Speaker 1: is a tougher schedule because you are a first place team.

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Speaker 1: You're getting the Rams, You're getting the Saints. That's tough.

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Speaker 1: And I don't I don't think those teams are going anywhere. Um.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes two games can decide the division or the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't look at this roster and

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Speaker 1: have a bunch of question marks. I really don't. Maybe

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Speaker 1: a backup quarterback we do something were to happen to

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Speaker 1: the quarter death wise, yes, one of those two guys

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Speaker 1: has got to step up the backup for the Rams.

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Speaker 1: They get a new when they just got rid of

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Speaker 1: who did they just sign? This is terrible that I

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Speaker 1: know they got rid of the guy. They just they've

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Speaker 1: had their manion was there forever. And then they they've

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Speaker 1: Mislake Bortles. Yeah I should have known that, but you

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Speaker 1: just never know, mack No. I mean, the Redskins wound

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Speaker 1: up going three four deep last year. Things happen, um,

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Speaker 1: But just I do I do look at the roster

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Speaker 1: and say I think they got better at a couple

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Speaker 1: of key spots. I think Randall Copp can be more

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00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: explosive for them for Dak in this offense, and I

589
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Speaker 1: think Robert Quinn gives them another proven guy off the edge.

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Speaker 1: They did make additions in free agency, this year's Slash

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Speaker 1: trade that bigger additions than they have in years passed.

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Speaker 1: I think with those two guys, in addition to your

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Speaker 1: rookie class, which you could help in the red zone too,

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Speaker 1: Wittes as well, that could upgrade some areas there. So

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Speaker 1: your point, Mickey, who was the backup quarterback for the

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Speaker 1: Rams last year when they made it to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: That was my point, Manyon, that's who I said. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they just got rid of him. Yeah. So he beats

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys every year in the in the preseason, he's

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Speaker 1: like sixteen of eighteen and they win the game. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the backup in Philadelphia, Now I have to look

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Speaker 1: that up. Now, who Well they signed? Well, they got

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Speaker 1: the guy that killed the Cowboys yea, And man, I

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00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: need a review there. That's what I'm going to spend

605
00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: the summer backup quarterbacks. If we're gonna worry about backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They just signed Cody Kessler, by the way, that's right,

607
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Speaker 1: and they drafted in the fifth round Clayton Thorson, and

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Speaker 1: they have Sword Western and Sudfeld is probably the back

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Speaker 1: back up. Right. If that's the first thing that comes

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Speaker 1: to your mind, then yeah, your roster's in pretty good shape. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it is something you got to look at. I

612
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Speaker 1: think it's the one thing that could kill this team

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Speaker 1: though couldn't well, yeah, and it's the one thing that

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Speaker 1: the Eagles had when they won the Super Bowl. Ye

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00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: losing Zeke could kill this team. Get ready for that, right,

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Speaker 1: So if you look at if you look at the roster,

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Speaker 1: and you look at where they were the second half

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Speaker 1: of the season last year. So my answer to your

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Speaker 1: question is why not they went seven and one? Right?

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Speaker 1: What was the difference between three and five and seven

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Speaker 1: and one? They acquired a wide receiver. That was the

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Speaker 1: first thing that everyone will Yeah, and I think another

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Speaker 1: huge thing will be if Travis Frederick's ready to go.

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Speaker 1: That's another one, yep. And if he's ready to go

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Speaker 1: and he's a semblance of himself, that offensive line is

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Speaker 1: going to be pretty good. And that was a problem

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Speaker 1: last year. You know, I know everybody wants to blame

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Speaker 1: the quarterback for fifty six sacks, but the protection wasn't great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't all Joe Looney too, know, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: And I think, but here's a question, since you brought

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Speaker 1: up Joe Looney. Yeah, if Frederick's back and you're adding

632
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Speaker 1: McGovern and you got Sue Philo, three of those backups

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Speaker 1: can't be there, right, Sue Philo is likely gone. Right,

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying veterans are gonna go on there.

635
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Speaker 1: That's that's one of them. There's a bubble veteran right there. Yeah. Now,

636
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: it would be nice to see if they had um

637
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: a challenge to Cameron Fleming to improve the backup tackle thing. Yeah,

638
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: we don't know. Maybe one of these young guys that

639
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: they got on the you know, from free agency, that

640
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: they had good grades on that can compete and would

641
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: be better than Fleming. It's high at Brandon Knight. Brandon Knight.

642
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: I think Brandon Knight looked pretty good actually, just in

643
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: helmets and T shirts lining up at right tackle, line

644
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: up right tackle. Yeah, him and this Campos. I don't

645
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: trust Jake Campos myself that his feet are just so

646
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying right now, they're going to figure out Jake

647
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: Campos can't play and then so that'll that'll move on.

648
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: If Jake Campos would not be playing, if Cam Fleming

649
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: was healthy right now, just wouldn't be playing right. Yeah,

650
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: And they need they need to figure they I trust

651
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: that they'll figure it. I trust Mark Colombo will figure

652
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: out Jake Campos. He's here because of last year and

653
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: he's doing all the drills and stuff like that. But

654
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: to me, they need to figure out that swing tackle

655
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: if they don't like it. You know, they obviously think

656
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: that Fleming can do it because they signed him to

657
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: a two year deal or the year before it was

658
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: just a one year deal. So they're basically saying, Okay,

659
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: you're going to be our swing tackle. Is what what's

660
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: going to happen here. But I'd like to see that

661
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: tenth guy be somebody like a say Night or Hyatt,

662
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: one of those guys that you can kind of develop

663
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: and if maybe you can get the other ones onto

664
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: a practice squad, that would be all the best right there.

665
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: And to Mickey's point about the O line, I think

666
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: when Colombo took over, they did restore their identity a little,

667
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: especially in the running game. They got back to being

668
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: physical in the run game, maybe more so in past

669
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: protection that last half of the season because Dak was

670
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: still getting sacked down the stretch. That's something they got

671
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: to look at. But you know, there is a difference

672
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: when you get an all Pro type player back at

673
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: center over Joe Looney, especially center, especially center, and Joe

674
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: did a nice job. But I think we've talked about it.

675
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: The red zone maybe more than anything, is where you

676
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: might see Travis Frederick have an impact and they can

677
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: be better than dead last in goal to go situations

678
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: where they've just got you know, you might need a

679
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: yard at times, and they weren't able to get it

680
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: down there. So if you're confident that the defense can

681
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: play as consistent as they did last year and with

682
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: Cooper here for an entire season, and with the exception

683
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: of the Indianapolis game when they just threw in a clunker,

684
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: those other seven games they averaged a touchdown more than

685
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: they averaged over the first eight games of the season.

686
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: So if the offense can play to that level and

687
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: over the season average twenty seven points a game, I

688
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: think you're a better team. And I think you've got

689
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: some personnel. If Frederick's there with gallup in his second

690
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: year and he improved greatly the second half of the season.

691
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: Cob and the tight end position. See we forget last

692
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: year you played basically with at you know, when they

693
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: lost their starter, you're playing with two tight ends. It

694
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: never played in the league, and you were still Abner

695
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: Swain was a seventh rounder, hadn't played that much. And

696
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: then he gets hurt and you're other two guys had

697
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: not played in the league. It's just such a still

698
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: we're able to do what you did the second half

699
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: of the season. It's such a young roster and you

700
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: look at it's like thirty something guys I think close

701
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: to thirty guys twenty five years or younger. Last year,

702
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: you just you you expect them to be better. Those

703
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: guys to be better, and that's that's the meat of

704
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: your roster. In addition to your young players are still

705
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: I mean your leaders are young players, dak Zeke, and

706
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: then they've added some veterans, Like there's really no reason

707
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: you look at it on paper and say, well, they

708
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: shouldn't be better than they were before. I just think

709
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: they're getting undervaluated nationally. Well, it's who's who's who's evaluating

710
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: above them, Because I honestly I haven't really looked well

711
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: when they when you look at those power rankings or whatever,

712
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: well they're like twelve to fifteen. They ranked the ranked

713
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: the roster the other day, Yeah, the top when they

714
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: were number six overall, number six overall. Yeah, I'm belign

715
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: for NFL. Yeah, the Chargers were number one. I think

716
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: where people have the biggest question as an offensive coordinator,

717
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: they don't know what to expect there. And that's where

718
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: you hope that the early part of the season, the

719
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: early part of the schedule, that they can kind of

720
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: can develop some things, grow, some things, kind of find

721
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: some hanger hat on things, you know, because you don't

722
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: want that to be into that second half of the

723
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 1: schedule where you're now thinking, man, we're just not doing

724
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: well in the red zone, we're not doing well, we're

725
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: not converting third downs. You know, we're struggling with sacks.

726
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: You know, you don't want all if all that, if

727
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: you're if you still have problems getting into that last

728
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: half of the season, then then this team is not

729
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: going to go anywhere. Everything that I just said is

730
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: not matter with the roster, whatever is not going to go.

731
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: But didn't that stuff bother him last year? Not as

732
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: much in the second half. Why, Well, they got a

733
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: better player, but they got a new offensive coordinator. That's

734
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: my point, Mickey. If you didn't think, if you didn't

735
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: think this offensive quaternator along with Garrett and nuss Meyer,

736
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: we're going to do a better job, then why did

737
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: you get rid of Lenahan? They had enough of him, okay,

738
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: but the second half was still pretty good. Then why

739
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: did they get rid of him? Yeah? Right, So see

740
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: that's the question. If you got rid of him, then

741
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: what you did should improve what you had. Right, Well,

742
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: that's you're banking on that. You're banking on that, and

743
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying that I'm saying the only problem

744
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: they can have with the To me, the roster is fine.

745
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: I don't see a problem with the roster at all.

746
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: I do see a problem with the unknown at the offensive.

747
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: Then they head coaches the offensive coordinator if there's a problem, Well,

748
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: if that's the case, and he's gonna have to get

749
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: to save his job, well either way, because if it

750
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: gets to the point where with the head coach is

751
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: now the OC, then they're like with the season's not

752
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: going to be very good. I agree with you, Mick.

753
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: They were better down the stretch, especially piling up yards.

754
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: But they still had trouble converting drives into point But

755
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: they still, other than that Indianapolis game, average twenty six

756
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: points a game. Hey, but if you throw that in there,

757
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: they went from I believe it was twenty points a

758
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: game without Amari to like twenty one something with him.

759
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 1: I mean, they still weren't scoring a lot of points.

760
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: And you're facing the best teams last you're in that conference,

761
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: New Orleans Rams. I mean, they're more toys, close to

762
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: thirty points a game. You gotta be able to do that.

763
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: And that's worried about the Saints defense. They give up

764
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: a lot of points. They only scored thirteen against them

765
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: last year, and they won barely. They won four. It

766
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: took a goal line stand, It took a transcendent performance

767
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: by that defense. Still one at the greatest offensive coordinator

768
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: ever only scored ten points. You should have been the

769
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Yeah, So defensively, everything's all good. I don't

770
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: I you know what I like? I said, I like

771
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: it's opened up with what's gonna happen is Byron Jones?

772
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: Canna be ready to play at right corner? What's the

773
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: health situation with the Marcus Lawrence and that shoulder. Will

774
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: he be ready to go? They're open week one for both. Yeah, yeah,

775
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, is Lyle Collins gonna be break his foot

776
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: going around the bags of training camp? You know? I

777
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: mean these are all things problems Yea, yeah, I mean

778
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: these are all I mean I I have. I think

779
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: I have more questions. Uh more. I trust the coordinator

780
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 1: to take whatever he has and make it work because

781
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: I kind of seen him do that. How much are

782
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: they dependent on the second round draft pick to be

783
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: productive his rookie year, Tristan Hill? I think they absolutely

784
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: need him to be productive. I mean I'm not eruptive.

785
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: Just yeah, I mean, he's gonna he's he's gonna have to.

786
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: He's he can't afford to hit the rookie wall in

787
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: week twelve when they're getting ready to make that when

788
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: they're going to New England, you know, and that when

789
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: that November to long season, and for a rookie coming in,

790
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: I just but kind of like with Quinn in a

791
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: different respect, because he's so young, is in a rotation.

792
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: I love him, but I think you got to have

793
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 1: enough in there with him inside. And but if there's

794
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: a rotation. You shouldn't hit a wall, right, right, You're

795
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: not right, and that's why Vanderish didn't hit a wall.

796
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna play thirty thirty snaps a game. Maybe no,

797
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: I might have to play more if something again happens

798
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: with Malik Malik. Well that's I mean, okay, you're right,

799
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: you don't plan. I mean you have to feel like, okay,

800
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: can he practice? Is he gonna be you know? I

801
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: mean that seriously, he's he's it's been, it's been that

802
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: type of a career for him. Can he stay healthy

803
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: enough to play a full sixteen games? Because when you

804
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: look at last year, one of the reasons that the

805
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: defensive line seem to have a good amount of talent

806
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: was the prospect of David Irving being in there. Well,

807
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: and then he was there at all exactly right, right,

808
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: But when you like, at this time last year, we're thinking, okay,

809
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: you got that guy, if he can play at whatever,

810
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: and of course we didn't see it at all. And

811
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: so where are they talent wise? How much have they

812
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: upgraded talent wise to to be better than they were

813
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: last year at defensive If if Quinn can do what

814
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: Brian said and the Tyrone Crawford can play inside. There

815
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: you go. Then you've taken care of that defensive line. See.

816
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: The thing I think that guys that were that we

817
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: need to focus on is maybe some of the shortcomings

818
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 1: at the defensive line. Last year. The better playing defensively

819
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: was because of Smith and Vanderish at the line of scrimmage.

820
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: You know, there weren't a lot of big plays because

821
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: those guys were making a ton of tackles. Now again,

822
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: you get Sean Lee on the field. I think the

823
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: reason why they didn't play Damian Wilson because he won't

824
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: any good. You know, they didn't play a Sam linebacker. Yeah,

825
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: they play a lot of nicolin stuff, but trust me,

826
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: I could see him playing a lot of bass. With

827
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: Shawn Lee on the field, it's best three linebackers on

828
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: the field. Let's let's go tackle people. You know. That's

829
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: where I think this team might very well go or

830
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: played at three four front. Yeah, and they don't have

831
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: to put a defensive back in that forward yeah. See.

832
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: I think that I think that the defense was improved

833
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: remarkably throughout the year because of those two linebackers, I

834
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: really do. Yeah. And the fact and the fact that

835
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: You're right. Corner played really really well. You know, they

836
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: didn't really take advantage of a woozy a very much.

837
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: You know, Safeties were okay. The free safety played up

838
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: up played pretty well. He did, But those linebackers were

839
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: the ones. The linebackers the human log. We didn't expect

840
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: the human log to do in this time last year.

841
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: They were just picking him up from Tennessee. Yeah, he

842
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: was just coming in right. Yeah, that's what I'm saying though,

843
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: so to me, you know, and then the and then

844
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: the left end. The left end, you know, is a

845
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: is a unique player. Gregory got better as the year

846
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Speaker 1: went on, too, sure with more snaps. Antoine Woods was outstanding,

847
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Speaker 1: but I think they realized that by the end of

848
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849
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,920
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850
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: what's going to happen for carry Hyder. Those guys are

851
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852
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: he moves well. But when I conning speed, yeah, I

853
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: wasn't just talking offense. The defensive speed is improved, yeah,

854
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: and including Hyder. Yeah, the question is who was there

855
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: enough room at the end? I mean, at the end

856
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: into this thing, we'll find out. Well, there's gonna That's

857
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: why I said that. The competition on that defensive line,

858
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. And it's only bag drills and

859
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: I get it. But Jalen Jelks can move, yeah, and

860
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861
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862
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863
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864
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Speaker 1: So there's gonna be some competition with these young guys.

865
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Speaker 1: They were like wise to the kid from Kansas, there's

866
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Speaker 1: another one. Yeah. Well also see that's to me. If

867
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Speaker 1: this defense, I think this defense, you look at the

868
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: talents on it, I think it's good enough. Can they

869
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870
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: coaches outstanding, defensive coordinators outstanding. I think he'll have them

871
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872
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,319
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873
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,359
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874
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Speaker 1: if you could average twenty three, twenty four points a game,

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877
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878
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879
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880
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881
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942
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Speaker 1: need to get into that, like fifty eight, sixty eight,

943
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: sixty six, sixty eight, sixty two, No sixty one, No

944
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Speaker 1: sixty I have joined Mickey as a sexy sexagenarian. Nostagenarian

945
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 1: is the eighties? A septuagenarian I think is a seventies bill?

946
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: How old set? Sixties? Not again? You're squintajenarian? Is a

947
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: fifty year of quinta genarian? Fifty five bill? What does

948
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 1: that mean? You're quinta genarian? Etly, Hey, there's there's some benefits.

949
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: Joined sixty years old? Did you get a Moviengratulations? But

950
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: let me tell you. Let me tell you, I don't

951
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: think you're that much older than me. Fifty to sixty

952
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: goes that fast. Yeah, it goes so fast. Yeah, sixty

953
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: to seventy. That's scary. Gods, so scary. My dad turns

954
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: seventy in two weeks, and I don't think he's too

955
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: happy about it. I know. You know what, it doesn't

956
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: matter what the age is. You're right as long as

957
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,959
Speaker 1: you have the age. But what happens is other people

958
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: look at you differently. Oh no, how do they look

959
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: at you? Oh look, Mickey's a fool, he must be eight.

960
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: But that's what happens. You don't fool, You don't feel

961
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: any differently, but people will look at you. What do

962
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: they do? They try to help you across the street

963
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: or like, what's different? And I like trying to minimize

964
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: you a little bit, minimize you, you know what? What

965
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: does because I'm not getting minimized. I mean, it does

966
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: seem like it was yesterday I was starting fifty and

967
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: it was yesterday I was starting sixty, though, and it

968
00:52:55,719 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: does make you value every day and make something people

969
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: dying around you. Yeah, that's the other thing which we

970
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: should shout out to. Bart Star yea nice man and

971
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: fought his way through for the last four or five

972
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: years after suffering the stroke. Yeah, and were we at

973
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: the game when he showed up in Green Bay for Farves?

974
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: I thought that was the Bears, that the Bears. We

975
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: were there, they did something. Maybe they retired a uniform

976
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Speaker 1: they put they put far far was in the Packer

977
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame and it was his acceptance speech and

978
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: lo it was a night against the Bears and it

979
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: was raining cold kind of a thing. I just remember

980
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: they did something for five when we were there, and

981
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, they miss ring. I think ring, that's

982
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: what it was. Also, long time local reporter Jerry Fraley

983
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: passed away over the weekend too. He hated riders at

984
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: covered football. He was more of a baseball guy for

985
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: she hated riders at covered football. I'll be honest, Rob,

986
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 1: I will be man. Was he if the man enjoyed

987
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: being gruff and mean and all that, he lived a

988
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: great life. Seriously, I'm not gonna sit there and act

989
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: like that. It's not you know, he's glowing, uh plot

990
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: it's going his way from people that he worked with. Yeah,

991
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: in in the baseball world, Yeah, yep, ye hated football. Yep.

992
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: It was a baseball guy for sure, yep. Um and

993
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: then Bill Buckner died too, that's right. Ye, so um

994
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: Ezecul Elliott not dead, No, not dead you. Uh. We

995
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: were talking about running back depth earlier and uh, there

996
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: was one little comment that Brian made that maybe, yeah, go,

997
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: maybe there is I don't know, I mean, a cloud

998
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: that that we should be concerned with about a possible suspension.

999
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: I just don't think you could keep, if you say,

1000
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 1: poking the bear. I just think you can't keep doing

1001
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: that and and thinking that everything is going to be okay.

1002
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: And and I just anytime you let the commissioners off

1003
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: have some type of oh we're gonna look at this,

1004
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: we're going to investigate. You just don't know what outcome

1005
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: is going to come from that. And that's what we're

1006
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: I mean. And people can say, oh, everything's gonna be

1007
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: okay until the Commissioner's office says it's going to be okay,

1008
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: then it's not okay. That's the things that worry me.

1009
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: You know, as you as you go into the season,

1010
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: you're thinking, Okay, what's the one thing that can really

1011
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: hurt your football team, Oh, losing your quarterback, maybe losing Cooper.

1012
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: How about losing Ezekiel Elliott? You know, said earlier in

1013
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: the show. I mean, I think he's the one guy. Well,

1014
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: I mean that Dak obviously, but the one guy you

1015
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: can at least afford to lose. So here's the deal.

1016
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: When the commissioner looks at it. Because we don't know

1017
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: all the stipulations he had in his agreement when he

1018
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: came back from the six game suspension, there might be

1019
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: some things in there that don't get in trouble anymore. Yeah, yeah,

1020
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: and how do you define trouble? Yeah, because I'll guarantee

1021
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: you someone's given me a forearm a lot harder than that,

1022
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: and I didn't fall down. Okay that I want to

1023
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: see no more videos of anything. Mickey felt that was

1024
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: he fly, That was soccer, yeah, chenovoli, whatever you want

1025
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: to call it now. And I think you have to

1026
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: take that in consideration when you looked at it. The

1027
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: other thing that what you don't want is come back home.

1028
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: And the headline in your local paper says handcuffed, right.

1029
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: But to me, the police did him a favor by

1030
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: doing that and walking him away because they wanted to

1031
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: make confuse the situation. And as you can see, he

1032
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: did not resist. He just put his hands behind his back.

1033
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: And walked off. They walked off about twenty yards, calmed

1034
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: everybody down, and let him go. I think so it

1035
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: wasn't like they were worried that, boh, something's going to

1036
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: explode here. Let's just walk away and get away from

1037
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: the situation. I thought they did him a favor, except

1038
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: for the optics of what it looks like when you're handcuffed, yep,

1039
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: and then the optics goes back to again who he

1040
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: is if that was you or me, I don't think

1041
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: you visit electric dance festivals very often. But if it

1042
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Speaker 1: was you, there's not a camera phone following you around,

1043
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Speaker 1: you know, and so you just have to be more

1044
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Speaker 1: aware of who you are and what people are. You

1045
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: got paparazzi around you because you're a public figure, bottom line,

1046
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: especially when you're welling a yellow jersey. It says look

1047
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: at me. Well. It's like what Charles Barkley was saying

1048
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: about Chris stops porzingis the Mavericks player who got into

1049
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: it in a bar and over in Latvia, Darn Russians.

1050
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: Barkley was talking about he was back in Auburn recently

1051
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: with some old college friends, and someone was poking the

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Speaker 1: told his buddies, we got to get out of here

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Speaker 1: because because I'm the only one that can be hurt

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Speaker 1: by this. I mean I could go punch this guy's

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Speaker 1: lights out if I wanted to, but it's not going

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Speaker 1: to do me any good. What did you guys see

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Speaker 1: with this interaction with the girl? What did you see?

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Speaker 1: He didn't see anything. Was he leaning on her? No?

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Speaker 1: I wasn't. I really was he pushing her with his

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Speaker 1: they had I think they it looked like somewhat of

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Speaker 1: an animated conversation. Maybe was there any I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: hands on, but was he leaning on her? Not? I

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Speaker 1: mean really, I don't. I didn't see anything from that

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Speaker 1: video to say, oh, I think he might get suspended

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Speaker 1: for this. However, to your point, he's he got six

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Speaker 1: games for something totally different. But he was never wasn't

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Speaker 1: even convicted of him, has never charged yea or arrested

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Speaker 1: in that circumstance either. And that's what goes back to

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Speaker 1: the whole NFL. There you go, CBA that you put

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Speaker 1: it in their hands. Does what happened? It doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: criminally whatever if there's even if there's nothing there. The

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Speaker 1: NFL has their own jurisdiction to look into things and

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Speaker 1: hand out punishment how they see fits. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean you always gotta like, oh, you know a little bit,

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Speaker 1: his next his next tattoo has to be walk away,

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Speaker 1: put it on its forearm and just remember. Well that's

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Speaker 1: what I like that. I'm saying, who you got to

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Speaker 1: walk away because you're not Pete Elliott. Yeah, and somebody's

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Speaker 1: always going to be after you Pete or Jim or okay,

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Speaker 1: any Joe out there on this show. I was just

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Speaker 1: called a racist by the people in periscope for I

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Speaker 1: just called a racist for what for? For they the

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Speaker 1: guy says, a closet racist. Far from it, my friend,

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Speaker 1: far from it. He was a closet, he wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: said whatever he got you vote not true. Continue next week,

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