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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: training live from the Dallas Cowboys World hears at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Friscollowing the line saw Letty and now your

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Speaker 1: hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen of the Internet and of the podcast

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Speaker 1: app and of all over the world, welcome into a

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Speaker 1: victory Monday edition of Talking Cowboys. Here from the s

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Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star in Frisco to the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys take down the San Francisco forty nine miners

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Speaker 1: for win number five of the twenty twenty campaign forty

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Speaker 1: one thirty three the final score from AT and T

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Speaker 1: Stadium last night. We're gonna break it all down for

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Speaker 1: you here on Talking Cowboys, presented as always by the

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Speaker 1: great folks over at Geiko. Kyle Yeoman's with you alongside

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Speaker 1: our resident Super Bowl Champion Isaiah dan Bank. We've got

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Speaker 1: Cowboys insider Rob Phillips down to the bottom right hand

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Speaker 1: corner and professional football analyst heck My Harrison, and along

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Speaker 1: with your title Heck Mom, I'm gonna go with professional

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Speaker 1: tree decorator because he's got his battery paid off and

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Speaker 1: in the left side of his screen it's a little

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Speaker 1: bit bigger than your up down. Heck hey, d First

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Speaker 1: of us, Kyle, do not get me in any trouble

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Speaker 1: with that title. Okay, because all of the credit to

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Speaker 1: decorating this tree belongs to my daughter Kia and my

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Speaker 1: wife Nicky, So this is this is their creation. They

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Speaker 1: did this, so fantastic kudoson my daughter kid and wife.

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Speaker 1: Looks like Rockefeller Center back there. It looks like time

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Speaker 1: to where I love it. You know, Kia is the

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Speaker 1: real star of the family. But also not to mention,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Isaiah, you're pretty much a star for getting Heckma,

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Speaker 1: you said those are Bluetooth lights. You like, you're working

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Speaker 1: with Bluetooth on this tree. So how does that? Hero?

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Speaker 1: I you can hook this thing up, it goes, you

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Speaker 1: can sync it with your phone, and you could play

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Speaker 1: it with your music. So I was thinking, you know,

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Speaker 1: having a little little John Christmas going this weekend, So

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Speaker 1: just no, it's all Isaiah lost the bat, he shipped

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Speaker 1: the tree, and Heckma put it up this weekend. Looks fantastic, buddy,

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Speaker 1: you look very festive here in the week of Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Happy holidays to everyone, no matter what you celebrate. But yeah, Rob,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are celebrating a win yesterday and an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to stay alive in the playoff hunt at least for

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Speaker 1: another week because Washington lost to Seattle. Big time week

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Speaker 1: coming up this week in really how things are going

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Speaker 1: to shape out in the NFC East. But Rob, what

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Speaker 1: did you think about yesterday's matchup with the forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers and how the Cowboys came out on top. You're

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Speaker 1: telling me that game got flexed? Really a game that

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Speaker 1: ends on a kickoff on side return for a touchdown

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Speaker 1: and then a hail married. NFL decided to flex that game.

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Speaker 1: For shame, NBC, for shame, you missed a good one

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Speaker 1: between two teams that are that are really struggling. And

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Speaker 1: that's why, I mean, half of us picked the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: half of us picked the forty nine ers on Friday,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's because they're in a lot of

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Speaker 1: ways the same team. They're flawed, they have injuries, they

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Speaker 1: have problems taking care of the ball, and that was

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Speaker 1: the difference. Cowboys now with a plus seven turnover ratio

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Speaker 1: in their last two wins, a two game winning streak,

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Speaker 1: now first of the season. I saw on last week

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Speaker 1: the New York Times statistical model, So the Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: a one percent chance to win the NFC East. I

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Speaker 1: apparently that has risen to five percent, So it's still

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Speaker 1: a chance. You're telling me there is a chance fer

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Speaker 1: five percent. You know, I would disagree with the computer

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Speaker 1: on that one, and I'm not a mathematician by any means.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that you have Washington going up against

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Speaker 1: Carolina this week, which is a winnable game for Washington,

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Speaker 1: and then the Cowboys somehow, if they can take down

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, I think the Cowboys are sitting in the

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Speaker 1: driver's seat going into week seventeen. But we can talk

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Speaker 1: about that a little bit later. On Isaiah, what do

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Speaker 1: been watching The Mandalorian. But yeah, I think you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, Kellen Moore continues to expand his repertoire. He

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Speaker 1: this year, um, that were within the frame of our offense.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't no crazy reverses and reverse passes and all that.

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Speaker 1: You know, they did what they what was required to

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Speaker 1: complimentary football. I know we talked about it in the

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Speaker 1: postgame show yesterday called but complimentary football. Your defense gets

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Speaker 1: you the ball, guess what, go score? Right now, that's

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Speaker 1: a give and take relationship. Nobody who just wants to

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Speaker 1: tough relationship for me. You know, look, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: It was tough. There were a lot of momentum swings

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Speaker 1: out a few gadget plays. But luckily those didn't cost

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Speaker 1: to the defense. That a lot of things that obviously

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Speaker 1: you lost Xavier Woods later on in the matchup yesterday,

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Speaker 1: But with that being said, you had six of your

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Speaker 1: Rob How huge is that for the defense, especially when

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's A that's a continuity problem on this

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Speaker 1: seven in the last two games. It's not a coincidence

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Speaker 1: And good thing that McCarthy isn't a stats guy, because

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Speaker 1: if you look at the offensive stats, they weren't very good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, two hundred and ninety one yards on fifty

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Speaker 1: you have to see some improvement throughout. But you didn't

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Speaker 1: to the turnovers, it ended up pushing them into position

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Speaker 1: driving the bus. But we brought up Tony Pollard in

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Speaker 1: the last segment. And Tony had a good game yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Whenever you look at the stats in the final final

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Speaker 1: totals for Tony Pollard sixty nine yards on twelve carries.

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Speaker 1: He had that long run of forty later in the game,

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Speaker 1: two touchdowns, both on the ground. He also had six

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Speaker 1: receptions for sixty three yards on nine targets, and out

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Speaker 1: of those sixty three yards, thirty of them came on

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Speaker 1: one reception. But Isaiah, whenever it comes to Tony Pollard,

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Speaker 1: and there's so many different ways to think about this,

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Speaker 1: because Ezekiel Elliott was inactive for the first time in

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Speaker 1: his career. Now he had some suspension stuff earlier, but

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Speaker 1: in terms of just being a straight healthy or I

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Speaker 1: guess health inactive. He was inactive yesterday because of the

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Speaker 1: calf injury. But a lot of people wanted to see

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Speaker 1: Tony Pollard. What did you see and how he performed yesterday?

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Speaker 1: I thought he did pretty well. I think Kella Moore

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Speaker 1: was trying to ensure that he got involved in his

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Speaker 1: game and involved early. I think that they the way

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Speaker 1: in which you typically would would use him when he

466
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Speaker 1: was a two headed monster with with Zeke. I think

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Speaker 1: you just saw that in just full form yesterday. They

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Speaker 1: tried to feed on the ball. They try to take

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Speaker 1: him inside, they try to take them outside. They were

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Speaker 1: really trying to find some gaps. You didn't they the

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Speaker 1: White Nines didn't present the gaps that we thought they would,

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Speaker 1: you know, but they did find a way to pass

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Speaker 1: the ball to him, and that's where he's sometimes most effective.

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Speaker 1: You know, You've seen a lot of times he's lined

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Speaker 1: up in the backfield. They motioned him all the way out,

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Speaker 1: you know, to a wide split receiver position, um and

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Speaker 1: it really declared the fact that they were in zone.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure it cleared up a lot of things

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Speaker 1: for Andy Dalton as well. But they were just very

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Speaker 1: diverse in their in their offerings and the presentation in

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Speaker 1: their in their form in which they utilized Pollard. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was it was pretty effective. Rob. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he it's funny, you know, the six catches. I think

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Speaker 1: going into the game two years in the league now,

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Speaker 1: I think his high was four catches in the game,

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Speaker 1: and when they drafted him, we kept hearing about, you

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Speaker 1: know what he can do as a receiver? Can he

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Speaker 1: do in space? And after seeing that yesterday, especially like

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Speaker 1: Isaiah mentioned early in the game, I'm thinking, what, let's

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Speaker 1: see more of that? Why haven't we seen more of that?

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Speaker 1: You know, I get I give Kellen Moore a lot

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Speaker 1: of credit for I think Heckman mentioned this in the

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Speaker 1: first segment the red zone. I think they're three for

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Speaker 1: three in the red zone. He said last week, I've

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Speaker 1: got to be better calling plays in the red zone,

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Speaker 1: and he got creative and they were able to cash

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Speaker 1: in using Tony as a runner down there. But we

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Speaker 1: saw his full skill set on display, and I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't view this as much of a Tony versus

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Speaker 1: Zeke thing I wrote about this mid mid season. I

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Speaker 1: want to see both of them more. I think with

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Speaker 1: dak out you've got to use your running backs more

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Speaker 1: help out your quarterback, and I think he's proven he

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Speaker 1: can help you in different ways now as as a

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Speaker 1: pure running back back there before the forty yard run,

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Speaker 1: you know eleven for twenty nine, you know eleven carries

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Speaker 1: for twenty nine yards. So I think I think we're seeing,

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Speaker 1: regardless of who's back there, they're missing some guys up

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Speaker 1: front on the offensive line, and I think that's that's

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Speaker 1: impacting it. But you see his big playability at the

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Speaker 1: end of the game. You know he can. He's always

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Speaker 1: a threat to bust one and that's why he needs

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Speaker 1: to play. Yeah, for the for the news, for the crowd,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be saying Zeko and all of that slow

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Speaker 1: down gym shoes. Okay, that's not what's that's not what's

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Speaker 1: going on. Because here's the thing, and Rob, you're exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Before that forty yard run, he only had twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: nine yards, So that was big for him in his

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Speaker 1: final numbers. But up until that point, guys are it

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Speaker 1: was the perpetual ineptitude of our running game that you saw.

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Speaker 1: We couldn't get anything going, and maybe it's because of

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. Finally we get an opportunity to run

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Speaker 1: that Tony polit shows his explosion for that forty yard game.

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Speaker 1: But still, you know, we're in a situation where we

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Speaker 1: could not establish the running game at all, and it

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Speaker 1: was not for the defense getting a short yardage like that,

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Speaker 1: we might have been in trouble with trying to manufacture

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Speaker 1: a long drives and so, you know, I appreciate what

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Speaker 1: Tony Poler did. I think that his skill set as

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Speaker 1: a receiver is awful display. All this does for me

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Speaker 1: is gives me the reassurance and Tony Pollard and his

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Speaker 1: ability if ever, Zeke is inactive because of health, but

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Speaker 1: I think that this gives us more of an incentive

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Speaker 1: to make sure that we balance our running attack with

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Speaker 1: Zeke and Tony Pollard. Gives you a big have a question,

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Speaker 1: go for it. Yes, I'm sorry, Carl. I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: I have a question for you guys, And I guess

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Speaker 1: really for everybody out there, there's so much talk and

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Speaker 1: so much pressure being applied to Zeke and now Tony Pollard,

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Speaker 1: and everybody's like, oh, you know what he's got, he's

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Speaker 1: getting paid this, or you know, we need to see

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Speaker 1: more of this. What do people feel is more important?

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Speaker 1: What do you guys feels more important? Which one has

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Speaker 1: the biggest effect on the run. Is it the running

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Speaker 1: back or is it is it the blockers in front

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Speaker 1: of the running back? The offensive line blockers? Yeahsive line. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of talk around Zeke and all

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Speaker 1: Zeke's fell off and oh he's not as effective as

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Speaker 1: he used to be, and be like, understand this, people,

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Speaker 1: understand this. If if you're playing with your third string

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Speaker 1: officsive line, and that third string officsive line is playing

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Speaker 1: against the first string or even the second string office

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Speaker 1: a defensive line, guess what. The holes just aren't going

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Speaker 1: to be there, right, They're not gonna I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: be as effective as a back because I don't have

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Speaker 1: the holes that I had before. Right, So it doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter if Zeke's in there. It doesn't matter if Poler's

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Speaker 1: in there. I know we're talking about how Polar only

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Speaker 1: had eleven carries, you know, twenty nine yards before before

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Speaker 1: the big run. But the reality is, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: who you put back there. Okay, Kyle, can you get

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Speaker 1: back there and put on a helmet right and put

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Speaker 1: on his slurs and saying and be and try to

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Speaker 1: hit the gap. I can put that gap anyway. You

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Speaker 1: can try to. You're probably gonna butt fumble like they

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Speaker 1: like the other guys did last week, you know. But

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Speaker 1: the thing is, if the holes aren't there, you can't run.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how great of a running back that

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Speaker 1: you have on your roster, so as much attention as

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Speaker 1: being placed on these guys. That's why I say that.

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Speaker 1: You know, Kelly Moore did a heck of a job

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Speaker 1: this week, and utilizing um Polar's assets and his abilities

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Speaker 1: simply because hey, guess we're running into the back of

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Speaker 1: guys is not going to work, right, So let's try

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Speaker 1: this right, And let's try this and guess what. Pollard

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Speaker 1: can also catch the ball, so let's put him out here,

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Speaker 1: so let's utilize him in all these different ways because

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Speaker 1: our office ave line honestly just isn't creating the same hole.

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Speaker 1: I completely agree with him also defensive game, completely agree

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Speaker 1: with you here. I'm gonna stick with this really quickly, Heckman,

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Speaker 1: because I want to add to what Isaiah just said.

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Speaker 1: But Tony Pollard did exactly what you want Tony Pollard

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Speaker 1: to do. That's exactly what you brought him into. Do

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Speaker 1: you want him to run every once in a while

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Speaker 1: then break a big play, right? His big playability is

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Speaker 1: what makes Tony Pollard special, what allows him to make

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Speaker 1: those big plays. He's done it with Zeke throughout his career.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Zeke is the one that sets up the

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Speaker 1: big play for Tony Pollard. Zeke can break a big

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Speaker 1: play every now and again. We've seen it throughout his career.

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Speaker 1: The only argument that I think you have, Isaiah, whenever

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Speaker 1: it comes to Ezekiel Elliott, it's not that he's a

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Speaker 1: better football player than Tony Pollard. That's obvious. I think

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Speaker 1: at least I think all four of us would agree

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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott is better than Tony Pollard. But whenever it

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Speaker 1: comes to his contract, his contract is what tells him

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Speaker 1: that he needs to be more elite and not just

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Speaker 1: a runner. He needs to be elite behind no matter

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Speaker 1: who's blocking for him. And that's where I think the

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Speaker 1: frustration comes from from Cowboys fans. And yes, we've talked

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Speaker 1: about this before and I feel like it's a broken record,

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Speaker 1: But it's a debate that's going to continue into the

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Speaker 1: offseason because there's decisions that have to be made around

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Speaker 1: that contract and where that salary cap is going to

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Speaker 1: be allocated. And Tony Pollard yesterday didn't really do a

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Speaker 1: ton for my confidence in terms of how this team

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Speaker 1: can't fare without Ezekiel Elliott because eleven carries for twenty

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Speaker 1: nine yards before he broke the forty yard or at

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Speaker 1: the end of the game, does not make me confident

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Speaker 1: in this running game. No matter if it's heck Ma

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Speaker 1: Harrison and Rob Phillips blocking for Tony Pollard upfront, or

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Speaker 1: if it's that the starting offensive line, You've got to

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Speaker 1: be able to run more efficiently than eleven for twenty

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Speaker 1: nine and they finally broke one right at the end,

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely great. But my question to you and everybody is,

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Speaker 1: how can you if you're not a shifty back, right,

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Speaker 1: if you're if you're not a if you're not a

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Speaker 1: Sean McCoy, if you're not a Barry Standard, which is

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Speaker 1: not one of these elusive backs, which is not what

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Speaker 1: Zeke is, Right, how can you be exceptional if you

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Speaker 1: don't have the holes to hit? Right? If you take

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Speaker 1: if you take the fumbles out of Zeke's season this year, right,

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Speaker 1: I can answer to everybody's leaning at all. He's fumbling

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Speaker 1: the ball, you have bad games, Okay, if you take

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Speaker 1: the fumbles out, what do you expect him to do

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Speaker 1: if there are any holes? He's not that type of

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Speaker 1: back and people are asking, oh, well, why don't you

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Speaker 1: pay him all that money because he always falls forward guys.

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Speaker 1: He always files forward and he's a threat. He blocks,

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Speaker 1: He blocks really well. When the team's decide to blitz, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna blitz a little bit more, just like we

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Speaker 1: saw yesterday, right the officer line did a good job

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Speaker 1: for the most part. He only got sacked twice, I

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Speaker 1: think Andy Dalton. But you blitz a little bit more

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Speaker 1: when you know that that Zeke's not back there to

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Speaker 1: fill the gap on that linebacker, that safety coming through

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Speaker 1: the hole. I'm gonna send my guys a few more times,

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Speaker 1: because guess what, I might get home right, But when

639
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Speaker 1: I have Poler back there or somebody else who's not

640
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: as great as blocking, guess what, you know, I'm gonna

641
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: send those guys. But when I see Zeke, when I

642
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: see Zeke, it's just not worth it because we're probably

643
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: not gonna get home. Right. So he helps you in

644
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: the passing game in that regard. Maybe not certainly in

645
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: the form of receptions, but in terms of protection, he

646
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: helps you. He helps Dak, he helps you know, Dalton,

647
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: he helps all these guys whoever's in the dog on position,

648
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: a quarterback, he helps him when it comes to running

649
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: the ball. Zeke is gonna fall forward, He's gonna bush

650
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Speaker 1: you in the mouth. Is no different than dog On Marshawn,

651
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: My dog Marshawn. It was gonna be physical. You knew

652
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: what you knew what you were getting into it. And

653
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: when you played against Seattle back then, he was gonna

654
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: hit you in the mouth. Whether he got outside the

655
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Speaker 1: tackles or not, you knew you're gonna have a hard

656
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: time bringing him down, right, And that's what he brought

657
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: to the game. That's what Zeke brings you the game,

658
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: the physicality. He's not gonna be shifty, so stop expecting

659
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: that from him. He's gonna shure up the fumbles. Of course,

660
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: any running back he needs to do that. But let's

661
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: stop that. Man. People need to stop talking about, Oh,

662
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: he's not as effective. No, he's not because he's playing

663
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Speaker 1: with his third string guys, and let's andy and he's

664
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's been healthy for a few weeks either. Heck, yeah, yeah,

665
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Speaker 1: Kyle got Isaiah's blood pressure up right now, I've actually

666
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Speaker 1: got one more thing to get his blood pressure up.

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Speaker 1: Just one, just one more thing. You want to keep

668
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Speaker 1: this going. How how much does the offensive line affect

669
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Speaker 1: fumbles for Ezekiel Elliott. How much? How much does the

670
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: offensive line affect the fumbles? Because thing for Zeke's game

671
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: dropping off in twenty twenty, he has fumbled the mention

672
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Speaker 1: more twice as much more. I mentioned that I know

673
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Speaker 1: you did, but I'm just saying, how does how does that?

674
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Speaker 1: How do you? How do you correlate that? Whenever it

675
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: comes to a ninety million dollars respect that you're paying

676
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: to fall forward one yard? He gotta hold up, absolutely,

677
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Speaker 1: So check me out. So let's freaking talk about it. Okay,

678
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: So let's talk about I'm not I'm not. I'm not

679
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: somebody to plays glame anywhere. You guys know, I take

680
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: full accountability for anything. I was saying, I'll stand behind everything.

681
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: So Zeke fumbled the ball entirely too much this year, absolutely,

682
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: and guess what, I guarantee you he'll figure that out.

683
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: He has figured that out right, Since he had those issues,

684
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: he hasn't fumbled anymore. He's human. Humans make mistakes, right,

685
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: Humans make mistakes. I don't care how much youre getting paid.

686
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: Makes mistakes, Jeff, Jeff Jeff Bezos makes mistakes, right. Everybody

687
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: makes mistakes, So let's not act like he's like, he's

688
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: just super human. That's just not going to fumble the ball.

689
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: He has to tidy those things up. There's aspects of

690
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: his game that he has to improve upon. Can you

691
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: believe that? Can you believe that he has to improve

692
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: a certain aspects of his game? So, yes, he has

693
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: to tighten that up, right, But he is still a

694
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: super effective running back. I don't care how much you're

695
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: paying him, and know the office of lineman can't make

696
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: him fumble, No, unless you's fumbling off somebody's but okay.

697
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: But but what they can do is take it to

698
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: the point where he's so frustrated with his inability to

699
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: get holes and be able to get across the line

700
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: of scrimmage to now he's doing things that are outside

701
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: of himself. When he starts doing things that are outside

702
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: of himself, guess what. The ball security stops becoming as

703
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: important as it once was, because now I'm trying to

704
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: figure out a way to get across the line screws.

705
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out way to make a big play.

706
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: So the things in which I used to focus on,

707
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm no order focusing on because I'm trying to make

708
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: other things happen. So no they can't, but yes they

709
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: do affect it because now he's doing things outside of himself. Yeah,

710
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: talked in a while, So right now it's not but

711
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: it's hot right now. I like. I like it. But

712
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: you know, I think what you're asking, and I think

713
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people when it comes down to Zeke,

714
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: they are illusion football on football illusionists, right. You think

715
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: that this guy is supposed to be the same guy

716
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: that he was four years ago with that great offensive

717
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: line behind. That's what no, no, no, no, no, no,

718
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: no no no, it's it's what it is is his

719
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: inability to do all of the things that are in

720
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: his wheelhouse to do because of the guys up front

721
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: not being able to get their job done. I promise you,

722
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: Kyle this, this show wouldn't work as fluid as it

723
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: does if you came up short on your job as

724
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: the host, right, there would be some things that we

725
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to do. That's the same thing for

726
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: the offensive line. It's hand and glove. These things work together.

727
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: So for you to not give credence to one thing

728
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: and then spot and say, oh, you're making all this

729
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: money to actually do this, it doesn't matter if he

730
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: doesn't have an offensive line to create those holes. It's

731
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: hard for any running back to do that. Now as

732
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, if you have a quarterback that could

733
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: just get back there and throw that thing eighty yards

734
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: and you have a guy like Megatron or a fast

735
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: guy's fast twitch guy that can go get the ball,

736
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: that may be a whole another subject entirely. All right,

737
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: when you look at Cooper his numbers, maybe you can

738
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: relate that to that. But to say that the money

739
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: that Zeke is getting paid is in some way he's

740
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: at fault for earning that contract and now he's not

741
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: living up to it because he's running behind a third

742
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: and fourth string offensive line, I think that's short sided.

743
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: And I think for that man, I think it's people

744
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: that don't really understand the game of football and what

745
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: guys have to do in order to be good in

746
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: this league. And you know what the contract is, what

747
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: it is, man Like, they were trying to win it,

748
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: they were trying to win a super Bowl last year.

749
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: They thought they had a super Bowl team. They needed

750
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: to get him back into camp and they thought he

751
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: earned it anyway, And I think I think it's been

752
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: a weird year to evaluate him on a lot of levels.

753
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's had a good year. By his standards,

754
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: it hasn't been a good year. Look at his numbers,

755
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: you look at his fumbles. You guys have covered that.

756
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 1: I would say I thought he ran the ball pretty

757
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: well early in the season when most of the offense

758
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: was healthy, but they got behind in games. Some of

759
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: that was his fault with fumbles, and it was hard

760
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: to really evaluate the running game as a whole. And

761
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: then now there's so many guys missing, I think it's

762
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: even harder to evaluate it. So I just I'm not

763
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: giving him a full mull again for this season. But

764
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: I do think when they're healthy as a group next year,

765
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see a better Zeke and I

766
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: think you're going to see a better off and hopefully

767
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: they're not turning it over and they've got some leads

768
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: and that's when you can really bring his game into

769
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 1: play instead of you know, you're trying to score fifty

770
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: points to beat the Falcons like you did earlier in

771
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: the season. I agree, I think twenty twenty one will

772
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: be a better year for Ezekiel Elliott, but it's it's

773
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: tough right now because of the frustration with him, the

774
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: frustrage ttration of course that it kind of built up

775
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: from the fumbles and all of the things that go

776
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: into that. But I like the debate, I really do.

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Speaker 1: I think it is a debate because the contract is

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Speaker 1: what it is. Like you said, Rob, it's signed, it's sealed,

779
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: it's delivered, It's going to be there no matter what.

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00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: And sure there are some decisions down the road that

781
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,960
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00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,000
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Speaker 1: have Ezekiel Elliott who can continue to evolve as a

784
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Speaker 1: Whenever we come back and look at this later on,

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Speaker 1: But when we come back here on Talking Cowboys, how

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Speaker 1: the Giants at noon kickoff back after the New year

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Speaker 1: on January third. So there's a lot writing on this week.

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Speaker 1: Week sixteen is most likely going to decide who wins

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Speaker 1: this division between three teams, the Cowboys, the Washington Football team,

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Speaker 1: and the New York Giants. Maybe the Eagles if you

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Speaker 1: really wanted to throw them in there, but I think

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Speaker 1: they're pretty much out of it as well. But whenever

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Speaker 1: you look at this division, Rob, you said five percent

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Speaker 1: chance from the New York Times model, what would your

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Speaker 1: percentage be for the Cowboys? Because if you beat Philly

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Speaker 1: and somehow those Carolina Panthers go after and beat Washington,

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Speaker 1: you are really sitting in a pretty good spot going

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Speaker 1: into the final week of the year. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: the thing about it is I would put it about

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Speaker 1: five percent. I think it's New York Times had one

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Speaker 1: percent last week by their model, and it was ESPN

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Speaker 1: five thirty eight with five percent today. So I put

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Speaker 1: it about five percent. But so much has to go

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Speaker 1: right for the Cowboys and Washington. You know, if they

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Speaker 1: get Alex Smith back this week, if they get Antonio

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Speaker 1: Gibson back, they get some guys back, kind of feel

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Speaker 1: like they can beat Carolina. Now Carolina has lost some

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Speaker 1: I think three pretty close games in a row. They

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Speaker 1: might be due. But the Cowboys just need so much help.

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Speaker 1: And but the thing about it is, I think all

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Speaker 1: three teams, even all four teams, if you want to

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Speaker 1: count Philly, you know, you just know what, don't really

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Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get from any of the four

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Speaker 1: teams week to week, So you can't really feel confident

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Speaker 1: in anything. It doesn't seem like a great chance for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys still, but it does kind of feel like,

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Speaker 1: you know that Cleveland Golden States series in twenty sixteen

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Speaker 1: where it was like, you know, you know, Golden States

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Speaker 1: up three one, and all of a sudden it's three two,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, but yeah, you think they still got it,

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Speaker 1: but you never know. You never know. No, don't, don't

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Speaker 1: bring the trophy out yet, like in that series, Thanks

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Speaker 1: Draymond for the Cowboys. They just have to have blinder zone.

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Speaker 1: They have to have blinder zone and control what they

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Speaker 1: can control. There's so much going on and they don't

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Speaker 1: know anything. They can't game plan for Charlotte, Well Carolina,

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Speaker 1: for the Washington football team, they can't do any of that.

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Speaker 1: So just getting to the game plan for Sunday against

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Speaker 1: say a quarterback, that's gonna be, that's gonna have be.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be a threat for our defense. They just

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Speaker 1: have to control that. And so looking too far ahead

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Speaker 1: and talking about the help and percentages and all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure this this team they won't accept it. And

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Speaker 1: I'm sure coach Mike McCarthy won't accept any of it either.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put minds at forty three percent. Wow, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty three percent. Yeah, I actually feel pretty good about it, man.

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Speaker 1: I think if Carolina is gonna get up for any game,

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Speaker 1: what game would they get up for their former head coach,

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Speaker 1: their former head coach. So there's a lot more than

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Speaker 1: just just a regular football game this coming week for

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Speaker 1: them um obviously, and a thing for us. We've already

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Speaker 1: faced a number of running quarterbacks this year, so I

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Speaker 1: think we should feel pretty good about going against Jalen

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Speaker 1: hurts Um and then going into that last week. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously we know what would be what would

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Speaker 1: be writing on that game for us, But in terms

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Speaker 1: of Washington, you know, Philadelphia will have an opportunity at

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Speaker 1: that moment to to really just just kill their whole season.

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Speaker 1: So I think they have two tough games. They have

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Speaker 1: a rivalry game within their within their their coaches here

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Speaker 1: coming up, and then they'll have it. They'll be playing

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Speaker 1: against a team that is going to literally try to

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Speaker 1: send them packing, send them home packing. So they have

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Speaker 1: two rough weeks, and we have two weeks in which

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Speaker 1: we have nothing but motivation, nothing but motivation. It'll be

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Speaker 1: tough to slow down Jalen Hurts. So this guy's not

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Speaker 1: just a running quarterback anymore. I mean, he had three

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Speaker 1: touchdown pass in the first half against Arizona to come

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Speaker 1: back and get back within that game. I think that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a fun matchup. No, no disrespect, I'll dispect

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Speaker 1: by that. I'm talking about like Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: We've already faced these guys right who have the ability

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Speaker 1: to do both tomorrow and both probably you know, overall better.

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Speaker 1: They're better quarterbacks than he is at this point. So

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Speaker 1: I think that we're probably better prepared to face a

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Speaker 1: quarterback like Jalen Hursts in majority of the teams that

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Speaker 1: Philly's facing right now. I agree, I definitely agree. I

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Speaker 1: think there's a lot that goes into that, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna break down that game coming up later in the week.

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Speaker 1: Remember though, sending your fan questions forward tomorrow as it's

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Speaker 1: a fans on the fifty Tuesday. We've got shows Wednesday

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Speaker 1: and Thursday as well. We'll be off for Christmas Day

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Speaker 1: on Friday. But once again, the Cowboys get a forty

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Speaker 1: one thirty three win over the San Francisco forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: and my guy Jail on the chat reminded me, I

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Speaker 1: want to say a shout out to how about Dez

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Speaker 1: Bryant instead of doing the instead of doing this, how

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Speaker 1: about the touchdown catch for Dez and doing the X

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Speaker 1: for Dez Bryan as he taught a touchdown here yesterday

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Speaker 1: for the first time in three years. That's fantastic, very

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Speaker 1: happy for Daz and cool to see that and his

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Speaker 1: comeback really kind of complete, or at least you see

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Speaker 1: his arrival again with that touchdown pass yesterday. But that's

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Speaker 1: gonna do it for us here on Talking Cowboys. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us here over the last forty five minutes.

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Speaker 1: For Chris Beam doing great work as always in the back,

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Speaker 1: for heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips, and for Isaiah stand Back.

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Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long. We'll see you tomorrow morning.

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