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Speaker 3: I do see that you keep poking at it. That

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Speaker 3: I think I can say, when this pod goes out,

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Speaker 2: with your not all men hashtag because you want't know

439
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 2: what not all men came from. It came from the

440
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Speaker 2: me too movement, and the Me too movement was about

441
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,640
Speaker 2: women who've experienced sexual harassment. You pull every woman you've

442
00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 2: ever met, they've had some kind of terrible encounter with

443
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,120
Speaker 2: a man. It maybe has been terribly violent, or maybe

444
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 2: it's just been passing remarks or cat calls, but yes,

445
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,919
Speaker 2: every single woman has had this experience. And so if

446
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 2: you're going to be one of these not all men guys,

447
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,880
Speaker 2: well I don't do that. I don't know anyone who does.

448
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 2: Think a little bit about the systems of power you're

449
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 2: propping up, and think about what it would take, in

450
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 2: the generosity of spirit in your heart to say, hmm,

451
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 2: even though I have not personally done this, and I

452
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 2: find this important, maybe I'm going to listen to these

453
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 2: women who said that they have experienced this, and instead

454
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 2: of getting defensive, use my powers of empathy. We see

455
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,919
Speaker 2: this one with the Black Lives Matter movement and the

456
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 2: people who respond all lives matter. Of course, human sanctity

457
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 2: of life matters. One race has had boots on their

458
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Speaker 2: necks for hundreds of years, and so it does it

459
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,719
Speaker 2: really harm you non black person to say black lives

460
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 2: matter because they haven't mattered in the past. Right, These politics,

461
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,120
Speaker 2: these discussions are all linked. And if you're somebody who's

462
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,199
Speaker 2: gonna clown around in these Twitter streets by saying not

463
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 2: all men or how dare you be sexist against these men,

464
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Speaker 2: then I would point to the nearly coronavirus free nations,

465
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 2: all of whom are led by women, and say, maybe

466
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 2: it's time for women to be in charge of everything,

467
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 2: and you can go eat a bag of dicks hashtag

468
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 2: dick kicks.

469
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Speaker 1: Dick kicks. Yeah, I mean that's the thing.

470
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Speaker 3: It's like, I just think, you know, when going back

471
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 3: and forth with this stuff was just like it was,

472
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 3: you know, notoriously, always the guys going at me for

473
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 3: like calling them mounts Like no, I would think a

474
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Speaker 3: responsible man that does act responsibly and is aware of

475
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 3: the fact that he is putting at risk, as you said,

476
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 3: you know, one guy said to me essentially like you know,

477
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 3: it's not your business, and when it you shut up

478
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 3: kind of thing, and I was like's literally your business.

479
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 1: This is literally my business.

480
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 3: And if the US Open doesn't happen, that's me not commentating,

481
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 3: that's me not coaching.

482
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 2: There's millions of dollars in people's jobs getting impacted more

483
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 2: than they already have been, which has been pretty bleak

484
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 2: out there.

485
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Speaker 1: I mean people, my paying my rent here in New York,

486
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: which is not cheap, is reliant on me working, and

487
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: me working is tennis being back playing. So if you're

488
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: going to be irresponsible because you've got twenty million dollars

489
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: in the bank.

490
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Speaker 3: And you don't give a fuck about every single person

491
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 3: that has a job that relates to tennis, So don't

492
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 3: do it on a tennis broatge the players that are

493
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 3: ranked ninety five in the world that rely on those

494
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 3: first round Grand Slam money to survive, you're a dick

495
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 3: and you're selfish, and so yeah, I'm sorry, Like I

496
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 3: am going to call people out that do stuff like

497
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 3: that because it is my business. And that's why I

498
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: got so upset. And there was a couple of guys

499
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Speaker 3: that actually deleted their tweets after that because I proved

500
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 3: them so wrong.

501
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 2: Well, I hope they showed their mothers, women, friends, sisters,

502
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: daughters how dumb they were being, and they got to

503
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 2: check themselves. And men, if you listen to this and

504
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: you're on the side of good, great, awesome, get the

505
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: other men in control.

506
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Speaker 3: Just tell them to take a step back and say

507
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 3: I didn't attack them personally. That's what is so hilarious

508
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: to me, because I tell you, if there were seven

509
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 3: women on the WTA tour that had events and they

510
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: came forward and they were COVID and I knew the

511
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 3: stuff that they did, I would be the first one

512
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 3: to throw them under the bus as well, because they

513
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 3: are now putting my job at risk.

514
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 2: So let's talk a little bit about the tour as

515
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 2: it sort of nominally plans to come back. We keep

516
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: talking about the US Open. The US Open currently has

517
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 2: plans to return. Obviously, we're all very excited at that prospect,

518
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: and there's going to be a few tournaments leading up

519
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 2: to that, but it's not a certainty. I mean, it

520
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: sounds like there's still a little bit of like, well,

521
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: if things don't go well or the coronavirus cases in

522
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 2: the United States, I want to make sure to mention

523
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: not New York, which had its shit together because we

524
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 2: wore masks, washed our hands, socially distanced.

525
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: And did all the right shit.

526
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 3: We had to jump and we literally were like self

527
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: imposed quarantining in our apartments and not leaving them, Like

528
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 3: I literally didn't see my neighbors who are two feet

529
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Speaker 3: from me.

530
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: Months da ever came out.

531
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 2: It was dystopian here in New York. But people know

532
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: how to live near each other because we live in

533
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 2: a megalopolis and we have some semblance of empathy and

534
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: we believe in science. Setting that aside, there is some

535
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: question mark about who's going to show up for these

536
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: tournaments in the States, notably the US Open. What are

537
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: you hearing? What are you thinking? What do you think

538
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: this is going to look like?

539
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 3: Well, it's a little bit of a worry when you

540
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 3: see that that Rapha is practicing on clay, So that

541
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: is not a good sign that he's coming to the

542
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 3: US Open.

543
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: Right.

544
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 3: Word on the street is that Novak apparently has ordered

545
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 3: some tennis balls from the.

546
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: US Open from the USTA, indicating he'd want to get ready.

547
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: I would imagine he's coming to the US Open.

548
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 3: Okay, all right now, that's still not set because we'll

549
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: see what happens over the next couple of weeks with

550
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 3: the cases and the you know, obviously New York, as

551
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: you said, is doing fantastically well. We were out yesterday

552
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: socially distancing and everyone's still wearing last year in New York.

553
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 3: So yeah, Serena's obviously said she's coming. All the you know,

554
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: Biance and Rescue will be coming, you know, the former

555
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: the defending champion, Naomi Osaka, former champion, she will be coming,

556
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: and so, you know, I'm excited. I think that we're

557
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 3: going to have as good a field as possible. Obviously

558
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: Roger was never playing. I think every player that's playing

559
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 3: right now in these exhibitions, including we're actually sitting at

560
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 3: my apartment watching Dominic team and Bertini playing against each

561
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: other on grass, those guys will definitely be coming because

562
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: I just think they're trying to prepare for the US Open.

563
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 2: The team's played pretty much every match humanly possible.

564
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he wow, like he looks great. He looks great,

565
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 3: as does Bertini. But yeah, I like the fact that

566
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 3: these guys are getting out there and they're playing as

567
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 3: much tennis as possible. Because they need to physically be

568
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 3: matched ready for a five setter. That's going to be

569
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 3: not easy. But yeah, I think I think we're going

570
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 3: to have as good a field as possible. I'm hearing

571
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 3: that Simona Hallup is probably not going to be coming.

572
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: She indicated that she's she's a little bit afraid.

573
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 3: I think of you know, catching Corona obviously and traveling,

574
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 3: and it's going to be a little bit of a

575
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 3: step for the Europeans to fly over here. But I

576
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: think the us TA are going to do everything possible

577
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 3: to try and keep them as safe as possible. I

578
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 3: know that ESPN really wants it, as does the USTA.

579
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 3: It's a tremendous amount of money on the line. Sure,

580
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 3: the USTA is a non for profit. They rely so

581
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: heavily on this US open to fund income the entire year.

582
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: You know, everyone that's so selfish. Okay, it's listen.

583
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: They're trying to do the right thing by everybody here

584
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: that they're going to They've been.

585
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: Through protocol after protocol after protocol.

586
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 3: My friend Kathleen Stroy is the head of the Women's

587
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 3: WTA Health Services Staff and Division at the WTA, and

588
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: she said, literally, I've written a book in the last

589
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 3: six months about the protocols that need to happen for

590
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 3: the US Open.

591
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: Well, I think what we've learned from these exos is

592
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: two things need to happen. Number One, the organizers the

593
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: event have to have very clear, very consistent and very logical,

594
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: if stringent protocols. And then the players have to respect

595
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: each other and the sport and the organizers enough to

596
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 2: follow them.

597
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: And when that happens, if you want to go, if

598
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: you want to go into New York as a player,

599
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: because they're all going to put them out of the

600
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 3: TWA at JFK.

601
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: If you want to come into New York, do it

602
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: out of the tournament. There's plenty of time to party, man,

603
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: There's plenty of time to come into the city. And

604
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: when you come into the city, stay in the city.

605
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: Well you should also still wear a mask and socially

606
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: distance and outside you.

607
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: Say the TWA, come into the city and.

608
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 2: Go back to the But respect the bubble. The bubble

609
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 2: is going to work for and with everybody, so it

610
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: needs both sides to function.

611
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not just going to have four players

612
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 3: left at the TWA hotel on the last weekend.

613
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and I see some other ones distance and

614
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 2: you know, once you're.

615
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: Out of the tournament, you can come into the city

616
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: and you can put yourself up in the four seasons,

617
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, Like you have time

618
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 3: to party and have the New York experience, which I

619
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 3: know a lot of players love about coming to New York.

620
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: But you've got time for that, and you can handle

621
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: two or three weeks. It was the tournament, the week

622
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: before it's going to be the Cincinnati, Southern, Western and

623
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: Southern Open.

624
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: You got time to party. Man Like, Let's get back

625
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: to business here and let's take care of each other.

626
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: Let's take care of each other before we get to

627
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 2: the clay swing. Because as of now, the French Open

628
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 2: plans to sell tickets to attendees. I don't think it's

629
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 2: going to be a full house, but they do plan

630
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: to have spectators. Setting that aside, what out of the

631
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: players and the field that you do see really working hard,

632
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: what do you think you know might happen at this

633
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: Grand Slam? I think Racket had a pretty compelling piece

634
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,239
Speaker 2: by Gary Nathan talking about Mateo Bertini, who's kind of

635
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: come out of last year's US Open run the semi

636
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: final run. I want to get to the fact that

637
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: you called it really early about him. He wasn't on

638
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: a lot of people's radar in terms of being a

639
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: challenger to the Big three and making it deep into

640
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: a Slam. But Geary wrote pretty compellingly, I think this

641
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: week for Racket about how Bertini's really taken this Exho opportunity.

642
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: We saw him playing an incredibly contested final in Berlin

643
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: against Dominic Team, losing in the super thigh break. You know,

644
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: I think ten eight. But he's fitter, he's moving well, obviously,

645
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: his four hands enormous, his back end's gotten better. Do

646
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: you think he's you know, a real contender this year?

647
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, I mean he was.

648
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: I mean I went on in a bit of a

649
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: limb and I said that I feel like he's going

650
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 3: to be the one of the young generation outside of

651
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 3: the top three that are going to win a Grand Slam.

652
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: And I think he will be the first one. And

653
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 3: I think that Dominic Team is knocking on the door

654
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: above them all because he's been so close now with

655
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: certain and finals of the US Open, where he played

656
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: you know great as well or you know, and he's

657
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: had huge wins at slam level, and yeah, the French

658
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: he's going to be knocking on the door big time.

659
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think Mateya just has all the weapons

660
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 3: and he just has to learn to believe in his ability.

661
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: He's such a nice guy. I mean, he's such a

662
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 3: nice guy. But he also spent a lot of time

663
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: in Bocha, you know, in the pandemic. He was down

664
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: there living with his girlfriend, Isla Tomlanovitch and her family,

665
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: and so yeah, he's used to the US environment.

666
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: He's used to the hard courts. He loves playing on them.

667
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think he's definitely a chance at that event,

668
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: There's no question about it.

669
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: I think on the men's side, team and.

670
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: Djokovic obviously will be the favorites, and then Matteo will

671
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: be knocking on the door. And I think in the

672
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: women's side at the US Open, I think that you know,

673
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: I've been asked, who do you think will be best

674
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 3: without a lot of match play coming into a year

675
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 3: ob with Serena right a Grand Slam, and I said, well,

676
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: you just got to look at the top two for

677
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: me are Serena and Bianc and Rescue. Yeah, I mean,

678
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: if anyone can come and play a tournament about having

679
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: a match for like six months.

680
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: It's frigging those two. Yeah, I mean Biana won like

681
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: three of the biggest events on the calendar last year,

682
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: dropped off for months, didn't even play hardly, like literally.

683
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: Came back in one two huge tournaments a.

684
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: Row, like what you know, come out of came out

685
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: of nowhere to win Indian Wells. Yeah, then like got injured,

686
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: you know, played one match after that at Wimbledon, and.

687
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: Then one Canada and won the US Open.

688
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, Sloan Stevens obviously did that, you know,

689
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago as well. I think what

690
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: it does is it gives you that second wind of

691
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I really love doing what I do. You know,

692
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: there's some people that really appreciate it. I think Serena

693
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: she's obviously she's she's got a court in her backyard

694
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: and she's had the US Open balls delivered to her

695
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: as well. Like she's ready to go, she looks fit,

696
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: she's she will definitely be there, and nobody wants to

697
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: see her whin another one more than you know a lot.

698
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: Of us, a lot of us. I actually had a

699
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: dream about Margaret Court last night. It was very odd.

700
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: She doesn't appear in my thoughts in any occasion very much,

701
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,479
Speaker 2: but I feel like maybe it was the same. I

702
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: was talking about how she supported a partide as well

703
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: as heating gay people, and I was like, Wow, what

704
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: a great opportunity this would be her, somebody, akay Serena

705
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: Williams to knock that pedestal firmly in the dustment of

706
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: history where it deserves to be.

707
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: I just don't even I don't know. It was very strange.

708
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to dwell on this. It was strange.

709
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: She kind of looked like a mop. She had long hair.

710
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: It was very strange. I mean, we didn't talk about

711
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: her yesterday dinner or anything. No, no, no.

712
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: They say a thing about dreams. If you're going to

713
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: tell other people about your dreams, which is universally boring

714
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: for anybody who's not you, what you need to do

715
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: is pretend that the person you're talking to was also

716
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: in your dream, but they had like a minor role,

717
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: like kind of like a director would give their nephew

718
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: in their phone in general, in your life. And I

719
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: was like, oh, no, you were there too. You were

720
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: you know, in the cafeteria liking coffee exactly. Yeah, so

721
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: now you're now you're invested, right, Tell me what else happened?

722
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: Its break down the screen? No, I didn't. I didn't

723
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: even be in that dream to be interested in how

724
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: that he you would have that dream? I don't know.

725
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: I had a lot of tequila last night.

726
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: I guess that's why you had like three You had

727
00:32:59,280 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: two drinks.

728
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: I didn't even have three drinks. I have two drinks.

729
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you the biggest friggin lightweight. Can we

730
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: change that about you getting into your forties now?

731
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: No?

732
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: I think if anything, maybe I'll just go totally clean

733
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 2: and just do a secotropic.

734
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: I am going totally clean for a week today. Okay, everyone,

735
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: let's see how to do.

736
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: We'll check in a week on checking in twenty four hours.

737
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

738
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 3: My neighbor doesn't help me, okay, because I'm like outside

739
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: and then they're out there with a glass of wine

740
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: and want I'm like, okay, all.

741
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: Right, what can you tell us about what you'll be

742
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: doing the next couple months? Obviously you're going to commentate

743
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: on the US Open. What do you think is going

744
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: to happen? Are you guys? Is the tennis world really

745
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: going to do a clear swing. Is this really happening?

746
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it is.

747
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 3: I'm actually going to be spending a little bit of

748
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: time with Jeanie Bouchard. I've been helping her out a

749
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: little bit over the last couple of weeks, and we're

750
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: on the street is that we're going to go to

751
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 3: Prague and play the event there. So this is a

752
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: pre US Open Prague, pre US Open Prague on clay.

753
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: Genie might be playing the US Open. Her ranking is

754
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 3: not high enough right now, so the goal is to

755
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: get her to get back inside obviously the top one

756
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: hundred and then go from there.

757
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: I mean, she can win those big matches, so it's

758
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: just a matter of get her back in there.

759
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: Right Genny.

760
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: You know, there's not many people that return the ball

761
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: as well as Genie, So just working on trying to

762
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: get confidence back. I'm working on trying to change your

763
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: serve a little bit, because you know, if you're winning

764
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 3: free points on your serve or you're setting the point

765
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: up with your serf, you're going to do a lot

766
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 3: of really good things. And if you know, changing the

767
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 3: serve and getting her to control her own service games,

768
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 3: those are all really important with going forward with the confidence.

769
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 2: I feel like that's important for literally everyone tis she

770
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: returns so well that if she can, you know, really

771
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: stay in control of her own service games, then do

772
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: you want a free coaching tip from me? Go ahead,

773
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: because I get paid by the Stars for this kind

774
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: of stuff all the time.

775
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: Serve and balley.

776
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's never going to happen, although our

777
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 3: buddy Andrea Pekovich, you know, tweets out her video of

778
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: her servant bowling and winning the point every time. So

779
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make Genie do it once a match.

780
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: Do you think Petco does that because she No, she

781
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: does it just so she can put it out there

782
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: and show me.

783
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 2: Okay, that's true. That's like a code of conversation between

784
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: the two. Yeah, she does not value very often.

785
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: No, it's but you know what, everybody out there, hit

786
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: that flatty out wide and go in and I promise

787
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: you you'll have a ball in the middle of the court,

788
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 3: high fourhand volley.

789
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: It's an easy point to win. Just throw it in

790
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: there like a Martina hingis every now and again, and

791
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: do it on a break point, because I promise you,

792
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: everybody returns that ball through the middle of the court

793
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: because they want to just make it wow. So there's

794
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: my tip for you all. This is great, all right.

795
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: I mean, who's going to take a flat serve out

796
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 3: white and try and hit down down the sideline.

797
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: Nobody. Everyone's going to go back across court.

798
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 3: Radwanska was the queen of it as well. She throw

799
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 3: that in there every now and again, which is why

800
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: I loved her. Can I what about my I got.

801
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: A little mention, should we do a bonus ending of

802
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: the episode with your newest Twitter romance? Well, I don't know, intellectual,

803
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: it's I call it a romance. Let's call it a

804
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 2: surprise that was sent to me yesterday that apparently Mary Trump,

805
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: of course, of niece of you know who, Yeah, the

806
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: only good Trump as far as we can tell.

807
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, had like.

808
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: Liked one of my said some very complimentary things about

809
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: my commentary like three years ago, and.

810
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: I just totally missed the tweet. And then I didn't

811
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: realize that she actually followed me as well. Oh yeah,

812
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 1: And I was like, what the hell? I just totally

813
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: missed this.

814
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: So to back up, Mary Trump, the psychologist, niece of

815
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 2: the shitsack clown who's currently sitting in the over office illegally,

816
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: I would argue, is a progressive, has been cut out

817
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: of the family and now has this forthcoming book where

818
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: she all but diagnoses I didn't even want to use

819
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 2: his name as having like narcissistic personality disorder and having

820
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: been abused by their grandfather because he's it's the whole

821
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: family's dysfunctional. So she's like the one who got away.

822
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 2: She's like the black sheep Trump. She's a huge tennis fan.

823
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: She's been adding huge tennis Rothenberg Courtney when she loves Agarridwanska.

824
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: She's huge into tenna. She follows you who knew, No,

825
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 2: I don't.

826
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: Know, Chrissy, Chrissy, I told Christia. So she follows you

827
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: to she.

828
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,959
Speaker 2: Goes, really, I mean, Mary Trump, welcome to the tennis Twitter,

829
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: Mary Trump, welcome to the tennis world. Will not hold

830
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: your last name against you. We will be welcoming.

831
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: You will be known as Mary to us.

832
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: That's it. There is the tennis Queen. I'm going to

833
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 3: try and find her book because it's sold out everywhere.

834
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: Wait, well, let's have her on the podcast and we'll

835
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: read the book and then we can talk.

836
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: About what else.

837
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: So Caitlin I think one thing we do want to

838
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: just also talk about in touch On is the fact

839
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: that our very good, esteemed fashion correspondent Andrea Pekovich send

840
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 3: out a tweet the other day about some absolute ask

841
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: clown abusing her essentially on Twitter, about her losing her

842
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 3: match and telling her she should retire and she.

843
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: Sucks and YadA, YadA, YadA.

844
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: And because he was betting on her, Now he's an

845
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: idiot because he bet against you know, Petra Kaviteva on

846
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 3: grass shitty Grass. I mean, come on, And I know

847
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 3: that Andrea has beaten Hvid a bunch of times.

848
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: So in slams recently, but I'm still Petra on grass Is.

849
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 2: I mean that's a really intense combination. Yes, because one woman.

850
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: Average grass, So getting herself back on that ship Grass

851
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: is like not easy, And you know you're taking a

852
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: risk by taking that bet.

853
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Like people bet on tennis all the time,

854
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: and it's.

855
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: Like they but but yet they feel like they can

856
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: then abuse the absolute living daylights out of these tennis places.

857
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: I've seen it left right in center, all these players

858
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: post screen grabs of the death threats they get. Kill yourself,

859
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 2: walk into traffic, I mean, it's just like, what on

860
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 2: earth would possess you to talk to a person that way? Ay,

861
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 2: money had money on it, and b let's be honest.

862
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: Is your men?

863
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're always men that are riding. I know we're

864
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: going to come off like men haters, but it's the men.

865
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: It's the men.

866
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 3: I've never seen a person and a tennis player voluntarily

867
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: put these abusive tweets up that aren't men, and it's

868
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: like it's so egregious and so disgusting the stuff they

869
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 3: say to them.

870
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 2: Well, do you think tennis should not have betting companies

871
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: as sponsors because a lot of these exhibitions have been

872
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: funded by betting companies. A lot of people say that

873
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: that's a conflict of interest. I don't actually particularly care why,

874
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 2: but I can see the argum about that.

875
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm not.

876
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 3: I'm totally fine with that because I had this conversation

877
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 3: actually with Craig Tiley from Tennis Australia and one year

878
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: the Astrain Open had a betting company on the back

879
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, that's a little conflict of

880
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 3: interest and that's a.

881
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: Bit we're trying to take. You know.

882
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 3: That was the year of them really clamping down on

883
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 3: betting in tennis and people throwing matches and you know

884
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: a little.

885
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: Bit of dodgy stuff going on.

886
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: And he's like, no, because there's betting in tennis, like

887
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 3: there's betting in sports. Like it's we're just putting it

888
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 3: out there like every other tournament has. But they have

889
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 3: a lot of sponsors are in tennis, they just don't

890
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: voluntarily put them on the back of the wall.

891
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: So he's like, we just did that because why not?

892
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: You know.

893
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 3: So, now you're never going to take betting away from

894
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 3: sports or tennis, and you shouldn't.

895
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: But when you make a bet, you're taking a chance.

896
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 3: There's no such thing as a given unless you have

897
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 3: paid the player, which is why they were clamping down

898
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 3: on it to throw a match. But if you take

899
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: that bet, you're taking a risk. And if you feel

900
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 3: like the necessity to like abuse the shit out of

901
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 3: a player because the bet didn't come off the way

902
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 3: you wanted it to, I just you can go, you

903
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: know what, like it's so wrong.

904
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: But to me, I think personally it has less to

905
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 2: do with batting. Although I do think losing money obviously

906
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: makes people probably do crazy things. I think it's just

907
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: sort of For me, the context is keyboard warriors who

908
00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: would never dare or can't ever substantiate or actually you

909
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: have an argument, you know, face to face, but feel

910
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: free to volley garbage at other people freely on the

911
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: internet because they're anonymous and because they're cowards essentially. You know,

912
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: I got a lot of shit. Well it's nuts. I

913
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: got a lot of shit after saying, you know, the

914
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: Adria tour was a disaster, and it was funny because

915
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: I got a lot of you know, Novak Djokovic super fans,

916
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: you know, and every Big three player has a ton

917
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: of fans. The Novak fans have a sort of Serbian

918
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 2: nationalist bent, which makes them and they also feel very persecuted.

919
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: So it makes them feel like the tennis establishment is

920
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: against him as opposed to he's done some things that

921
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: are justifiably critiquable, you know, And I said, oh great, well,

922
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 2: can you point to the time code that I said

923
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: something that was actually factually inaccurate. Is this different than

924
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: me calling out you know, Rafa for taking too long

925
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: between points and needing to get more code violations? Is

926
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 2: this different from me calling out Roger for the verbal

927
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 2: obscenity he used and needing to get, you know, like

928
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't care really about the Big Three.

929
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: I don't have a particular favorite of myne them. I

930
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: kind of want them to all retire because I'm ready

931
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 2: for the new crop. But it was interesting because these

932
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: keyboard warriors, they can't actually say the thing, or do

933
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: the thing or point to the thing. They're very very

934
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 2: happy anonymously sort of lobbing garbage at other human beings.

935
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: And it's sort of like, you know, if you're gonna

936
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: spend your time doing that, put your phone down, don't

937
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: abuse players, get get, get the fuck out of here

938
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: with that. You know, I've got absolutely no time for it.

939
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: But if you think I'm gonna stand by it and

940
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: not call you out on it, and you know, just

941
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: welcome to me.

942
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: They don't have a lot of things that excite them,

943
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 3: and you know, getting very abusive online excite them.

944
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 2: I thought Petco's clap back was very good. Feel free

945
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: to you try to return petrok od serve to the

946
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: ad side.

947
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: I invite you to do that. I'd love to see

948
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: it you Wenka.

949
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 3: Let's also finish on a really fun note in that

950
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: we've been watching World Team Tennis as well, and can

951
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: we give a like triple triple triple clap to one

952
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: of the greatest plays that we've ever had on the pod, one.

953
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: Clap for each child she's had before coming back to

954
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: absolutely decimate the field of young players. Are one of

955
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: our fieves, Kimmy Clusters. Yeah, I mean it's been so great.

956
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 3: I spoke to him the other day actually, And just

957
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: so everybody's aware, the Green Brier they're playing in West Virginia,

958
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 3: they're playing World Team Tennis. They're keeping everybody at the Greenbrier,

959
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 3: and Kim said, you can't. I can't leave my room.

960
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: You have to have every meal in the room. They

961
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 3: literally leave the food outside and say foods here. So

962
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: they're really trying to keep it all in house. And

963
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 3: I think the US Open is going to sort of

964
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 3: that's in a bit of an experiment for them. I

965
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: think they're waiting to see how World Team Tennis pans

966
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: out and if anyone gets COVID and how they can handle.

967
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: Keeping everybody in house. I don't know that. I'm just

968
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: imagining that if the U sure they're watching all of these.

969
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 3: Thinking, can we because there's a lot of players at

970
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 3: that WTT event, If we can keep them in house

971
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: and keep them safe, then that's a good indicator for

972
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 3: the US Open. Obviously there's a lot more at the

973
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 3: US Open, but I think that's a small, small, little

974
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: thing for them.

975
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: To look at.

976
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, let's give it up for kem Like,

977
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: hasn't lost a singles match there. It's only first of five,

978
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 3: there's no way tennis.

979
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, not exactly matched conditions.

980
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: But Kennon, you know, Stevens, Yeah, she's looked good out there,

981
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 2: looking fit, looking good. Obviously, she's always been an incredible athlete,

982
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: has a laser forehand, backhand, grounding, you know what it is.

983
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: She just looks great.

984
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: I'm so happy, you know what it is when I

985
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 3: see her play against all of these players, and they're

986
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 3: all great players, and obviously Kennon and Sloan in particular

987
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 3: because they're both Grand Slam champions. Kim, you just there's

988
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: just a difference of the demeanor and the will and

989
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 3: the the intensity and the way she can let stuff

990
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 3: go and move on, and it's so great to see

991
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: such a great champion. It's the same as when Serena

992
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 3: plays World Team Tennis. It's like it doesn't even matter

993
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: if it's just like a five game format. It's like

994
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: they just have this different look about them that is

995
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 3: such a it's just a ten percent better than everybody

996
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: else when they really folk us in and look. Kim

997
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: will be the first one to say that she still

998
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: needs to lose a bit of weight. She still needs

999
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: to get a little bit, you know, fitter, but her

1000
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: movement is still there. And with the little bit extra

1001
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 3: fitness and match play and a little bit losing a

1002
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 3: little bit of weight.

1003
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: Which he said has been the most difficult.

1004
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 3: I mean, three kids, She's not getting any younger, Like,

1005
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: that's hard to do. Sure, she hitting the ball so

1006
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 3: well and serving well, playing the mixed doubles.

1007
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: Like and just like smiling and fist pumping and getting

1008
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: into it in a way that you're so that happy

1009
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: intensity is always what I remember watching during those fantastic

1010
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: runs in the Australian and obviously the US Open, Like

1011
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: you know, when she's on and she's feeling it. Not

1012
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: only is she such a joy to watch because she's

1013
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 2: such an athlete, but also she has like such a

1014
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 2: happy intensity that it's like really really sort of joyous.

1015
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 2: I feel like watching her on any sports field would

1016
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: be like that, and it's nice to see.

1017
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1018
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 3: I just one of the reasons I want the US

1019
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 3: Open to happen so badly is because I just want

1020
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: to see Kim out there again, like giving it everything,

1021
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 3: and every player that plays against her is just going

1022
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: to be shitting themselves.

1023
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: Sure, nobody wants to play against Kim, and no one.

1024
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: Wants to get their butts kicked by Kim Places who

1025
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: literally hasn't played tennis for like five years probably you know,

1026
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: a longer, and coming back from from like three children.

1027
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: It's like, god, damn, I'm living in a totally schooled

1028
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: by a mom of.

1029
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: Three, living on a firem in Belgium.

1030
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: Exactly with your pigs and her bulldogs.

1031
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 3: So so anyway, I'm super excited about that. I can't

1032
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: wait to see her compete again at the US Open,

1033
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: and hopefully it all happens. Hopefully the US Open is

1034
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: on our finished crast need it on Television's true?

1035
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: All right until soon, Renee, Let's see how long you

1036
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 2: can stay dry.

1037
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 3: I'm giving myself like two days and if I can

1038
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: get through two days a week, no, but I'm saying

1039
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 3: if I get through two days, I think I can

1040
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 3: get a week.

1041
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: All right, Well, stay tuned everybody.

1042
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: Hey guys, we've we've we've missed tennis. We hope that,

1043
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 3: we hope that this kick gets back onto television. But

1044
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 3: in the meantime, thanks for supportting us in Racket.

1045
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: And we love you guys. Hang in there.

1046
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 4: We're almost there finally, And that's it for this episode

1047
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 4: of the Racket Magazine podcast. Thanks for listening. Our host

1048
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 4: is Renee Stoves. Our co host and producer is me

1049
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 4: Caitlin Thompson. Music by internationally renowned DJ Stretch Armstrong, thanks

1050
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 4: to Tim or Jering and the.

1051
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: Team at ACAST.

1052
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,279
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1053
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,560
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