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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm wanh and this is the big take from Bloomberg.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to our second special report from Taiwan. Taiwanese voters

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Speaker 1: elected a new president over the weekend. History on the

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Speaker 1: streets of the Taiwanese capital tonight, thousands of people are

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Speaker 1: out here listening to the first words of their new

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Speaker 1: president elect, Laichingda and the Vice Lichingda, the country's current

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Speaker 1: vice president, on in an election that's seen as crucial

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Speaker 1: for the future of the island and its relations with China,

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Speaker 1: its mighty neighbor across the waters. Lai is viewed as

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Speaker 1: a separatist by the mainland and is a fierce defender

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Speaker 1: of Taiwan's sovereignty. He will take office as the prospect

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Speaker 1: of an armed conflict with China becomes more real than

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Speaker 1: ever before. Just days before the election, China launched a

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Speaker 1: satellite over southern Taiwan that prompted the government to issue

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Speaker 1: air raid alert and warnings about possible debris tumbling from

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Speaker 1: the sky. And last year the island was on edge

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Speaker 1: as Chinese warplanes were sent to sensitive areas around Taiwan.

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Speaker 1: After visits by US and Canadian lawmakers, the tensions come

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Speaker 1: down to this, China sees Taiwan as a breakaway province

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Speaker 1: and has threatened to bring the island under its control

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Speaker 1: by force if necessary. Taiwan has responded to this growing

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Speaker 1: threat by raising the island's military budget, and starting this year,

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Speaker 1: the island's government is expanding its compulsory military service from

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Speaker 1: four months to a year. While surveys show Taiwanese support

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Speaker 1: the extension of military service, it raises a new threat

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Speaker 1: in the minds of many. The prospect of a war

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Speaker 1: with China is on the rise, and their suns could

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Speaker 1: very likely be on the front lines. Today we hear

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Speaker 1: how two families on the island are responding to that

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Speaker 1: fear in very different ways. Here's Bloomberg's Juan chin Hua

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Speaker 2: It's a Sunday Saturday in a park in the southern

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Speaker 2: part of Taipei, and thousands of families are here. They're

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Speaker 2: waiting in line in front of tents with boothe underneath

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Speaker 2: looks like a ferries on their way. This kid is

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Speaker 2: complaining about waiting in line for too long, But what

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Speaker 2: are they waiting for? Exactly a stick of cotton candy

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Speaker 2: or right on, a merry go round. Actually, if you

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Speaker 2: walk a little bit closer, you'll realize what's really happening here.

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Speaker 2: It's not as joyful as you might think from far away.

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Speaker 3: I make that.

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Speaker 2: What's actually happening here is very intense. The instructors for

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Speaker 2: the events are teaching a group of kids how to

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Speaker 2: prepare for a potential missile attack. Because the purpose of

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Speaker 2: this whole event today isn't calivor rights and games. It's

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Speaker 2: a civil defense fair. Its goal is to help families

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Speaker 2: and especially children, prepare for a potential attack on Taiwan.

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Speaker 2: Instructor is guiding the kids with a loud speaker. You're

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Speaker 2: brave hiders. When two sides are fighting in the air,

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Speaker 2: you will hear this siren and you will know there's

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Speaker 2: a missile from the enemy coming towards you. In this drill,

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Speaker 2: kids are sitting on a white sheet of fabric and

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Speaker 2: preparing to hide beside stools which are covered in black

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Speaker 2: plastic bags. There are meant to mimic buildings in the city.

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Speaker 2: Most kids look to be around the elementary school age,

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Speaker 2: and one of them is taking this very seriously, not

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Speaker 2: giggling or moving around like some other kids are. I

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Speaker 2: turned to him and asked for his name and age.

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Speaker 3: Raymans well Jing and I am Raymond. I am nine

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Speaker 3: years old this year.

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Speaker 2: The instructor tells Raymond and the other kids exactly how

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Speaker 2: to position their bodies for what would come Next to

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Speaker 2: the instructor is saying, when missiles explode, there will be

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Speaker 2: strong lights, loud noises, and blast waves that will hurt

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Speaker 2: our bodies. We have to take five actions. First, we

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Speaker 2: have to protect our eyes by covering them. Second, we

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Speaker 2: had to cover our ears with our thumbs to prevent

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Speaker 2: to prevent the shock from damaging our internal organs. Raymond

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Speaker 2: follows the instructions to the letter. A couple of minutes later,

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Speaker 2: my producer Young asks him, why do you think we

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Speaker 2: need to practice this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, lookt if because if there's an air attack, we

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Speaker 3: can immediately take shelter.

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Speaker 2: She follows up, where would an air attack come from?

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Speaker 3: Some go Ho Chi, Tago, China or other countries.

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Speaker 2: Later on, Raymond tells me more about himself. He's in

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Speaker 2: the fourth grade and he loves arts and crafts. What

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Speaker 3: Now, I like to make small models using a three

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Speaker 2: As for what he's been up to at the Civil

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Speaker 2: Defense Fair all day. He runs us through the other

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Speaker 2: activities he has done.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: If I went to the Maze, Adventure a Good Helper,

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Speaker 3: find a Shelter, Magical Signpost, Brave Hiders, and the Adventure Valley.

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Speaker 2: Y'all asks him which one he likes the best.

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Speaker 3: I like Adventure Valley the most because they gave me

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Speaker 2: Raymond has spent his afternoon hopping from booth to booths

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Speaker 2: to learn how to find shelters under attack, how to

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Speaker 2: properly bandage a wound or injury, and how to pack

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Speaker 2: an emergency backpack. At the backpack booth, he was told

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Speaker 2: to bring a hand generator for electricity and a photo

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Speaker 2: of his family in case they got separated. Man Raymond

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Speaker 2: has been collecting stamps for completing each of these training sessions.

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Speaker 2: He's got eight stamps in total now and he's ready

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Speaker 5: Hells a mon, Thank Emma Way.

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Speaker 2: Raymond gets a box of cookies, and he doesn't look

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Speaker 2: too excited. He might be disappointed with what he's leaving with,

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Speaker 2: but his mom, who brought him here, feels like we

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Speaker 2: got exactly what she came for.

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Speaker 6: Raymond and Mama are supreat So I'm Raymond's mother. My

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Speaker 6: name is Grace. This is our first time attending this event.

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Speaker 6: We're here because Raymond never participated in this type of activity,

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Speaker 6: and so I would like him to experience it.

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Speaker 3: Sounds that San down came.

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Speaker 2: We watched the.

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Speaker 6: News together, and the kids know that there are wars

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Speaker 6: outside Taiwan. It's important for him to understand what civil

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Speaker 6: defense is and it's an issue that everybody, both adults

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Speaker 6: and kids, should care about.

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Speaker 2: Grace is Rayman not only needs to be prepared to

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Speaker 3: Just a pritriochal what you want?

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Speaker 6: I think he has to do his military service.

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Speaker 2: Grace thinks doing this service is important for her son.

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Speaker 2: We turn to Raymond and ask, have you ever thought

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Speaker 2: about becoming a soldier?

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Speaker 4: Mom?

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Speaker 3: I will do it. Everybody will do it.

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Speaker 2: Aren't you scared? We ask? He shakes his head. No,

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Speaker 2: Raymond may not be scared, but what about his mom.

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Speaker 2: She's facing the prospect of sending her only child into

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Speaker 2: military service at a time when Taiwan faces an escalating

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Speaker 6: Is your own passion I wouldn't worry. In fact, I

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Speaker 6: want him to do it. I think this experience can

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Speaker 6: help him mature. It's necessary and anyway, one should be

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Speaker 6: able to join the military, whether you're a boy or

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Speaker 6: a girl. As long as you're willing to, you should

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Speaker 6: go for it. Because war affects everybody, so it's everyone's business.

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Speaker 6: After all, we're all Taiwanese. This is our homeland.

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Speaker 3: Death.

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Speaker 1: We hear from another Taiwanese family responding to the same

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Speaker 1: threat in a totally different way after the break.

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Speaker 2: While Raymond's mom, Grace, who we met at the Civil

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Speaker 2: her son off to do his military duty less than

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Speaker 2: ten miles away, another mom, Olivia, is responding to the

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Speaker 2: same threat a different way. Okay, this is Olivia. I

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Speaker 2: met her at an immigration agency that helps people get

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Speaker 2: citizenship in foreign countries. Olivia has a son in elementary school, Ted.

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Speaker 2: When I ran into her at the agency that morning,

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Speaker 2: she was seeking the best strategy for Ted to avoid

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Speaker 2: military service. But you can't just leave Taiwan. There's a

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Speaker 2: penalty for draft dodgers. So Olivia wants to make sure

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Speaker 2: test name never makes it on the list. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I see the news about the war in Ukraine and

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Speaker 7: I see people could be enlisted anytime, whether you like

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Speaker 7: it or not. It makes me think about us. I mean,

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Speaker 7: of course, you don't want to send your child to war.

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Speaker 2: Olivia wants to get Ted an official statf as known

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Speaker 2: as Oversees Taiwanese, and to do this, Ted needs to

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Speaker 2: meet a bunch of requirements. First, he needs to be

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Speaker 2: a permanent resident of somewhere else. Second, he needs to

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Speaker 2: turns fifteen. And then he has to spend less than

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Speaker 2: six months in Taiwan each year until he's thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: There are even more requirements than this, but these are

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Speaker 2: the ones Olivia is focused on. At the moment. This

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Speaker 2: all sounds like a ton of work. And when I

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Speaker 2: with that Ted is only less than five years away

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Speaker 2: from having to leave Taiwan, they freak out.

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Speaker 7: I never feel so pressured by time before you bring

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Speaker 7: up this question. Five years is not very long. It's

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Speaker 7: actually very short. It's the end of the year already.

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Speaker 2: But Olivia tells me they are already on their way.

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Speaker 2: Her family's got citizenship in two countries, Turkey and one

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Speaker 2: African country. She wouldn't give me more details on the

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Speaker 2: through an investment program called Golden Visa. Basically, to get

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Speaker 2: they're also going through the process for citizenship for two

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Speaker 2: more countries. She invited me and my producer Young back

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Speaker 2: to her house to hear more. The family lives in

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Speaker 2: over three thousand square feet. This is where we meet

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Speaker 2: the rest of Olivia's family. Her husband, Oliver, is the

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Speaker 2: CEO of a local tech company, and their son Ted.

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Speaker 4: What's your name?

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Speaker 8: Ted? Ted?

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Speaker 5: Ooh, so, how old are you ten?

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Speaker 4: So it's fifth grade?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Ted tells me she switched from a local school to

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Speaker 2: an international school about two years ago.

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Speaker 4: Which one do you like better, the local school or

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Speaker 7: Oh, why tell me about it.

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Speaker 5: There's more subjects, and there's less homework and and.

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Speaker 8: No holidays.

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Speaker 2: Ted's father, Oliver tells us they've been talking about the

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Speaker 2: idea of leaving Taiwan since Ted was born.

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Speaker 8: And the first of all is like, I think the

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Speaker 8: risk of war we're facing, you know, military threats from China.

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Speaker 8: I think most of the parents worry about this, worry

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Speaker 8: about us and the future of our children.

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Speaker 2: In the past few years, they have started taking steps

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Speaker 2: to prepare Ted for life outside of Taiwan. They sent

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Speaker 2: them to summer camps in various countries, shift the schools,

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Speaker 2: and about a year ago he started fencing lessons because

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Speaker 2: his mom tells me fencing is an international sport. Ted

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Speaker 2: what he likes about it holding the.

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Speaker 5: Sword, It's not very hard, and it's also to get

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Speaker 5: new friends when fencing.

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Speaker 2: But a new school, new summing camps, and new hobbies

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Speaker 2: aren't the things that will help Ted legally avoid or

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Speaker 2: delay military service. For that, the family need to secure

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Speaker 2: citizenship outside of Taiwan. Olivia tells me. They apply for

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Speaker 2: Turkish passports only because it's fast, easy, and rather cheap

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Speaker 2: for them, so that if things really deteriorate in Taiwan,

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Speaker 2: they at least have somewhere to stay legally. But now

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Speaker 2: they have their side set on other countries that they

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Speaker 2: think can offer Ted more. For example, Portugal. Here's Olivia again.

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Speaker 4: Now, since the risk between Taiwan and China, we are

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Speaker 4: everything's like we are planning but not confirmed.

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Speaker 2: But it's not just Portugal they're looking at. Australia is

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Speaker 2: also on their list. We asked Ted how much he

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Speaker 7: Do you know you have Turkish citizenship?

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Speaker 4: Do you want to live maybe if there's.

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Speaker 5: Better life in somewhere, like better education and better friends.

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Speaker 2: No matter where Ted ends up, his family's priority is clear.

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Speaker 2: We want to use whatever they have on him to

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Speaker 8: We don't want our children suffer from those war. We

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Speaker 8: protect our country. We would rather to protect our kids.

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Speaker 2: We call it a knight in the lovely music that

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Speaker 2: takes place for us on his piano. Of course, using

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Speaker 2: your wealth to shield your children from military service and

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Speaker 2: Most families are like Raymonds. They can avoid to leave,

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Speaker 2: children for the unthinkable, a war with China, even if

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Speaker 1: That's Juan chin Hua from Bloomberg. This episode was produced

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Speaker 1: by Young Young She and Wan chen Hua reported the story.

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