Speaker 1: Look man, oh, I see you? Why why and look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness lost culture calling.
Speaker 1: I told you before we hit record that you're activated,
Speaker 1: something activated within you. Something has activated me and my
Speaker 1: interest was peaked, as they say, and then they just
Speaker 1: how do you spell peaked? This is a test p
Speaker 1: I q U E D smart queen and that's it.
Speaker 1: Don't let anyone tell you different smart queen, spelling be queen.
Speaker 1: I don't think so many people who think that it's
Speaker 1: the p E A K peaked. No, that's simply the
Speaker 1: wrong peaked. You know, I placed sixth place in my
Speaker 1: sixth grade spelling bee. Do you want to know that
Speaker 1: six is not bad? I placed second in the fourth grade.
Speaker 1: I lost to Laura Henderson. I remember, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I remember this like so well, like it
Speaker 1: was yesterday. Even do you remember your word in the
Speaker 1: sixth grade? I remember my word um? Okay. So there
Speaker 1: were there were two famous spelling bees in my life,
Speaker 1: and one the first one, I got off on the
Speaker 1: word mule. I got off on the word mule. I
Speaker 1: came on stage, they said the word is a mule
Speaker 1: I ejaculated and was eliminated. Just because of the colm,
Speaker 1: not because, but now and I spelled it m u
Speaker 1: e l like muel. I don't know why. I thought
Speaker 1: it was like fuel And I said m u l
Speaker 1: e and I it's escaping me right now. The word
Speaker 1: I got out on on sixth grade. But you tell
Speaker 1: me what was your second place finishing word? Must know
Speaker 1: the fourth grade. But I think people still suck this up.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. If you got it wrong,
Speaker 1: there's not that are getting it wrong, and that's really culture.
Speaker 1: If it's really culture number as well if other people
Speaker 1: are getting it wrong. The satellite s A T E
Speaker 1: l L I T E. Okay, yes, stupid, No, I doubled.
Speaker 1: I did the double T s A T t E.
Speaker 1: And then and then the look on Mr Koby's face fell.
Speaker 1: She just dropped. Mr Koby. She she lost all respect
Speaker 1: for you, and that moment she absolutely did um oh
Speaker 1: but she no. You know what, I don't think so many,
Speaker 1: Mr Kobe, because she did this thing where when when
Speaker 1: people would like whisper during like you know, drop everything
Speaker 1: in read hour or something, she'd be like, bowen, I
Speaker 1: can hear you from here. I can hear you from here,
Speaker 1: which is like a meaningless sentence. She could hear you
Speaker 1: breathing or what she that was her That was her
Speaker 1: little catchphrase when whenever she wanted to call out someone
Speaker 1: for being loud or disruptive, like I can hear you
Speaker 1: from here, I can hear you from here. It's a
Speaker 1: little bit. We're in the same room. So that that
Speaker 1: that reads to me? Why don't you relax and read? Famously?
Speaker 1: What it's called? Not stop everything and read? Was it
Speaker 1: called relax and reda long Island? Very much so? R
Speaker 1: and R? It was called dear d e A R
Speaker 1: drop everything in read in Colorado? Well, that's just too much,
Speaker 1: that's too much. Yeah, dear you got dare you got
Speaker 1: all the programs that that that's too much. It's too confusing.
Speaker 1: Where where you were educated was too confusing? Right? What
Speaker 1: can I tell you? What I would activated me? Yes,
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, I want to look like a
Speaker 1: barbed today on Instagram? You like a barb today? And
Speaker 1: then I was I put on Pink Friday, I pressed
Speaker 1: play on Pink Friday, and I thought, this is one
Speaker 1: of the best albums albums of all time. So how
Speaker 1: would you go about looking like a barb? Like Nikki
Speaker 1: herself has a face filter everything but making music lately,
Speaker 1: sweet stam, excuse me, she's not bound to like, she's
Speaker 1: not beholden to like the album cycle anymore. So you
Speaker 1: know you don't you misunderstand I say that with all
Speaker 1: the love in the world. I mean it. No entrepreneurial.
Speaker 1: Well no, but you're you're trying to like make some
Speaker 1: Rihanna equivalent. Tell me what I'm trying to do. I
Speaker 1: know what you're trying to do, saying because where you
Speaker 1: were educated, they had too much ship going on in
Speaker 1: the way that you're actually not a barb. But I
Speaker 1: want the readers to know that is that you're not.
Speaker 1: That is pathetic. Welcome to the crying game. That's a
Speaker 1: that's a that's a great Nicki song. Actually into the
Speaker 1: crying game. Wait, you lose your soul. Okay, we're putting
Speaker 1: on some accent there. No, we're not. And fuck you,
Speaker 1: that's so stupid. I'm so kidding. I'm we're not going
Speaker 1: to cut it out because I have nothing tied. I
Speaker 1: have nothing. You're right, and I actually, reader, I take
Speaker 1: it back. Matt was just being a barb, and he
Speaker 1: was and he was quoting that was a barb accent,
Speaker 1: and that was all right, let's pump the brakes. Wait,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you're activated. Um, and you in
Speaker 1: being so sort of confrontational, and I think we're both
Speaker 1: sort of giving. Yeah, yeah, we're getting barbed before we
Speaker 1: bring in our films star guests. I just want to say, star, literally,
Speaker 1: what do you think about what I'm calling the two
Speaker 1: thousand twenty one Demilovado frozen yogurt controversy. I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: haven't been keeping up with this. What's she lost it
Speaker 1: in a fro Yo shop. It's all over the news,
Speaker 1: It's all over there. Wait, so she got mad at
Speaker 1: someone in a froyo story to tell me? Tell me
Speaker 1: she got angry at the fro Yo shop because it
Speaker 1: was giving sugar free options, and she felt triggered by
Speaker 1: that and took to Instagram to blast the fro Yo
Speaker 1: shop to her a hundred two million followers and say
Speaker 1: that the fro Yo shop was doing harmful messaging and
Speaker 1: offering sugar free options. Meanwhile, famously, diabetics must have sugar
Speaker 1: free things. Vegans must, you know, sort of they have
Speaker 1: diet Vegans have to No, I said, they have dietary restrictions.
Speaker 1: You're uneducated, so what do I care what you have
Speaker 1: to say? Dear drop every thing and rehearse some better reports. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: that was good. I'm on fire today, king, Oh my king,
Speaker 1: this is what do you make of this Demi thing?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just hearing about this now. I'm shocked.
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. I'm going to talk about it later,
Speaker 1: and so I'm it's I don't think so, honey, but
Speaker 1: I had to. It's occupied so much of my brain
Speaker 1: space today because I did watch an eight minute apology
Speaker 1: video that she released. It was eight minutes long, and
Speaker 1: she said the words when I messaged the FROO shop
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is when she jumped the
Speaker 1: shark from me. I think, no, this is we're going
Speaker 1: through like a renaissance with Demi. Like everyone is like
Speaker 1: kind of rallying to her corner for the first time.
Speaker 1: There's no one who rallies harder for Demi than me.
Speaker 1: There is no one I know, I know, but I'm
Speaker 1: saying everyone is becoming a lebotic now because it's like
Speaker 1: huge lebotic. We've in lebotic since the first YouTube documentary.
Speaker 1: We should say the documentary where she was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I beat the ship out of some girl like on
Speaker 1: on my plane. I was like, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: unapologetically beat the ship out one of my backup dnswers
Speaker 1: because she looked at me wrong. She said that in
Speaker 1: the documentary, simply complicated. That's the whole thing in the documentary.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't be making light of her anger issues. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we're not. We're we are. We are simply stating the facts.
Speaker 1: We're not making light of anything and the facts today
Speaker 1: or she tried to absolutely drag a family owned froyo
Speaker 1: shop for simply saying that some of the items were
Speaker 1: sugar free. Oh my god. And she did apologize. And
Speaker 1: like I said in over eight minute long video where
Speaker 1: she used the word fro yo about a hundred times,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no pop star should be using
Speaker 1: the word froyo this much. I just said, yeah, you disagree,
Speaker 1: Actually yes, Remember remember two one of the best years,
Speaker 1: one of the best years, one of the best years
Speaker 1: pink Berry was king. Coming to New York meant like
Speaker 1: or going to any big or but it's specifically new
Speaker 1: It was like l a. But my experience of coming
Speaker 1: moving to New York was like oh my god, We're
Speaker 1: about to elect our first black president and I have
Speaker 1: to go and I have to go to Saint Mark's
Speaker 1: the pink Berry there and just feel like Harry Bradshaw.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't think she ever ate for was that
Speaker 1: one of her things? No, but it felt very like,
Speaker 1: it felt very No, I should say it was very
Speaker 1: gossip Girl. Don't even know if they ate it on
Speaker 1: gossip Girl, but like they definitely like if they probably
Speaker 1: didn't eat it, they probably like played with their played
Speaker 1: with it in their played with it and their with
Speaker 1: their spoons in their Yeah, of course, And then there's
Speaker 1: a spit bucket on set where they're like, Okay, she
Speaker 1: just Blake had to be reassured that she wouldn't have
Speaker 1: to ingest a single pink? Is there going to be
Speaker 1: a spit bucket on set that Late and I can
Speaker 1: share because we're we're on board on this together. We
Speaker 1: don't want to eat any of that. And meanwhile, Layton
Speaker 1: Measter is like, what is MOCHI like, she like spent
Speaker 1: twenty minutes asking people what was? But but can we
Speaker 1: quickly talk about New York City two eight that specific
Speaker 1: year you were coming right off of sex in the city.
Speaker 1: The first movie and Gossip Girl was was raining. It
Speaker 1: was from season one into season two. It was like,
Speaker 1: what what an electric time in New York City to
Speaker 1: be like, Wow, I mean we're killing it like in
Speaker 1: film and television. Do you know what I'm saying? And
Speaker 1: you know, Famously, one time when I was walking on
Speaker 1: the street on Fourth five, I walked past remember the
Speaker 1: bar Forum. It's not called that any Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I've told you this. They were shooting a movie called
Speaker 1: Black Swan, Oh my God, which then I would see
Speaker 1: the next year. And it was the scene where and
Speaker 1: this actually is going to segue perfectly into Our Guests.
Speaker 1: It was the scene where Mila Kunis says Natalie Portman
Speaker 1: He've never rolled God and gets her to do Molly
Speaker 1: and then they have lesbian sex later. Fun fact, the
Speaker 1: one of the guys they date in that scene is
Speaker 1: the Winter Soldier himself, Sebastian stand Sebastian Standards was dating
Speaker 1: latent me. Story at the time, Oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is powerful. This is our guest. Is our guest is
Speaker 1: sort of like gesturing at the importance of this. Speaking
Speaker 1: of lesbians, okay, speaking of queerness. Queerness, let's let's not
Speaker 1: let's not like keep it at lesbian is um I
Speaker 1: labeled and and I and that's wrong. It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1: These are two bona fide film stars, stars of film.
Speaker 1: The breakout film, I'm gonna say, the breakout film of
Speaker 1: the year for me, my favorite film of the year.
Speaker 1: I loved this so much. I watched it the second
Speaker 1: I could, and then I I ingested it, and I
Speaker 1: immediately was like, you see that the press watching it
Speaker 1: makes you quite anxious, but it was like the most
Speaker 1: beautiful anxiety attack that I would that I would like
Speaker 1: to experience again and again. And the poster, the poster
Speaker 1: you have are you have one of our guests in
Speaker 1: a cream cheese gown. Can you imagine a star was born?
Speaker 1: I said, star was born? I said, let's bring our
Speaker 1: guests in. They're both the stars of Shiva Baby, phenomenal movie,
Speaker 1: and you and you know them and you love them.
Speaker 1: From a plethora a sundry plethora of other things. Spell
Speaker 1: sundry s u n d r y pretty easy to spell,
Speaker 1: not easy to use in a sentence. That's why I
Speaker 1: was sort of so taken with you in that moment. Yeah, yeah, um,
Speaker 1: I spell plethora, p L E T h O R
Speaker 1: A smart queen. I think these are two phenomenal, phenomenal people,
Speaker 1: and I'm so we're so excited to have them. We're
Speaker 1: here to stay. Oh, make no mistake, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: introduce them alphabetically. Okay, good, thank you for doing that,
Speaker 1: because you know it would have been a nightmare. It
Speaker 1: would have been a nightmare. But everyone welcome, Molly Gordon
Speaker 1: and then Rachel said it, Yeah, is a moment in time.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you've talked about pink berry already
Speaker 1: because I love it. And how many of them are
Speaker 1: in l A still, well, it really it popped off
Speaker 1: and and I used to for dinner. I used to
Speaker 1: fully go there for dinner, and then it closed a lot,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of places closed. There are actually three,
Speaker 1: because I was having this conversation with someone this morning
Speaker 1: with my boyfriend. We didn't imagine our um and we
Speaker 1: looked up how many pink berries there were because we
Speaker 1: remembered when it was a big thing. I'm going to confirm,
Speaker 1: but I think there are three confirm And let's let mama,
Speaker 1: let's research. As as as we've said in the past.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, um, pinkberry, what we call it
Speaker 1: sort of the in and out of desserts. What is
Speaker 1: that occupy that cultural space? Because but in and out
Speaker 1: it's kind of like still the test of time in
Speaker 1: terms of burgers, whereas pink berry, we think had a
Speaker 1: moment identify with it as being a sort of odds situation,
Speaker 1: and yet it exists. I will say that in and out.
Speaker 1: The reason it's so beloved is that it's it's hard
Speaker 1: to find, it's hard to it's hard to come across.
Speaker 1: And pinkberry was kind of ubiquitous for for a little bit. Right.
Speaker 1: It was like it was everywhere. It came on the
Speaker 1: scene as like this health thing kind of and this
Speaker 1: new healthy but then it wasn't healthy and then it
Speaker 1: lost its way and it gave us all diarrhea. But
Speaker 1: we were kind of like, is this I thought it
Speaker 1: was kind of like having Greek yogurt, but it's not
Speaker 1: Greek yogurt. But it's not right. I want to say
Speaker 1: I was completely wrong. There are seven it's not I
Speaker 1: came in so hot with that. I was like three, Um,
Speaker 1: there's more, But I that is not a fault that
Speaker 1: was said to me this morning, and yes, and this
Speaker 1: just show you can't trust men. They can't be trusted,
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to frozen yogurt places, actually when
Speaker 1: it comes throw rio. Now he asked to take two
Speaker 1: Instagram and do an ig live and talk about throw yo. Yeah, truly,
Speaker 1: I apologist for misinformed my girlfriend about the number of
Speaker 1: froyo places. And you know, I really who I really
Speaker 1: hope is not listening to this as Demi, She's not.
Speaker 1: She's not gonna be dealing well with this. Had you
Speaker 1: guys heard about the dent what I'm calling the two
Speaker 1: one Demi a little about of frozen your good controversy
Speaker 1: and what were your sort of takes? Well that's what
Speaker 1: sparked the conversation. Oh my god. See I told you
Speaker 1: everyone was talking about it. Well that's what I do
Speaker 1: every morning, wake up, look at Twitter, find something really
Speaker 1: dark to talk about, something sad. Just when I was
Speaker 1: going like this full circle, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yea yeah, she was making a circular emotion with her
Speaker 1: hands and she was yeah, I grew up in her way,
Speaker 1: so big chill is where I went. So this is
Speaker 1: like and this is something else that that's like important
Speaker 1: about the story this is like a sort of story
Speaker 1: read fro Yo Place. It's the iconic l A place
Speaker 1: where you're going not for health, You're going for delicious
Speaker 1: dairy options, sugary things. You're after school going there for
Speaker 1: a light snack before dinner, you know, kind of large
Speaker 1: order of fro Yo pre dinner and of you know,
Speaker 1: after third grade or something. It's not the place to drag.
Speaker 1: They're not. They're not. They're keep up with the place
Speaker 1: to drag. Wait, Denny was Dragon Big Chill, Yes, she
Speaker 1: really was. And and the thing too, was like she
Speaker 1: didn't stop. Like it was like it was like Instagram
Speaker 1: story after Instagram story after Instagram story of her going
Speaker 1: for this place and like showing receipts of her like
Speaker 1: conversation with the with the fro Yo whoever was like
Speaker 1: manning the instagram the six thousand followed instagram of the
Speaker 1: Big Chill in l A. It was really something. It
Speaker 1: was really something. It's not it's not like you know,
Speaker 1: juice bar, it's not. It's not trying to be that.
Speaker 1: They're just trying to give diabetics or people who don't
Speaker 1: want to have as much sugar other options. But they're not.
Speaker 1: They're not even giving us a gluten free option. They're
Speaker 1: not taking it there automatically going free or no. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying like they're not trying to be healthy. That's
Speaker 1: not that. Yeah, they're giving you the baseline. I hope
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna go big with games. I hope up
Speaker 1: to the pandemic, we don't do any more of the
Speaker 1: like talking about stuff online. I agree, I hope, I agreed.
Speaker 1: I welcome. I welcome the dark Age though, remember like
Speaker 1: like you know have like people like the doomsday people
Speaker 1: on Twitter are like, We're going to enter like a
Speaker 1: technological dark age where like there is no electricity or
Speaker 1: whatever the hell, And I'm like, yeah, well that's great,
Speaker 1: Like I could be good. I could see it up
Speaker 1: being good for well, I think in some ways we
Speaker 1: were about to blow up, something was going to happen.
Speaker 1: Then the pandemic happened, and hopefully use this other dark
Speaker 1: thing to like turn us into a better time in
Speaker 1: some way. Yeah, I think the pandemic happened, and then
Speaker 1: like we all thought that was bad, and then when
Speaker 1: in yogurt controversy happened, I think that's when we all realized,
Speaker 1: like this was all a bridge too far and we
Speaker 1: all had to log off. We had to log off
Speaker 1: at that point, I think, can I tell you this
Speaker 1: is like, this is playing out my biggest fear of
Speaker 1: leaving Twitter, which I decided to really permanently do as
Speaker 1: of last week. But I would have known about this.
Speaker 1: I would have known about this if I was still on.
Speaker 1: But doesn't it feel good to not know? No, I
Speaker 1: would have loved to be part of the discord. And
Speaker 1: now I feel that's the thing. I know, a thing
Speaker 1: like the scam or something that could send you just
Speaker 1: like funny Twitter stuff, but you wouldn't have to be
Speaker 1: on Twitter, but you get to know all the like
Speaker 1: s news in some ways. Okay, that could literally just
Speaker 1: be like a friend or something, or or dating someone.
Speaker 1: But I think maybe we create an app, we create
Speaker 1: an app, create, maybe we create an app. I do say,
Speaker 1: I do think, Like I also deactivated for a few
Speaker 1: days there. I was like that's it for me too,
Speaker 1: and I was just like going to move forward in
Speaker 1: my life. And then what you don't realize happens is
Speaker 1: in like group threads or just amongst texts, something that
Speaker 1: happens all the time is they'll just send a tweet
Speaker 1: and then in order to like see it or a
Speaker 1: video or something, to see the new story, you have
Speaker 1: to log in to go see it. And then that's
Speaker 1: when you realize, like, oh, it doesn't matter that I'm
Speaker 1: making the decision to not go off it because the
Speaker 1: rest of the world isn't making that decision. And this
Speaker 1: is where news happens, or for example, that's where actually
Speaker 1: Molly and I got our message or quests to do
Speaker 1: this show and see and that's because I knew. Because
Speaker 1: I knew, I wanted to go straight to the source,
Speaker 1: Like I I'm sure I could have gone through my
Speaker 1: email and found both emails, but I was like, but
Speaker 1: I know where they both are on Twitter, and I
Speaker 1: did that and it was and hence what we have
Speaker 1: right now. I just want to say that we received
Speaker 1: the d M, the group chat d M while we
Speaker 1: were together while we are full hair and makeup done
Speaker 1: for the Kibo premiere. Molly actually screamed out, well, throw
Speaker 1: her phone to the ground, hair and makeup. People knew
Speaker 1: about the podcast. Oh no, the guy doing my hair
Speaker 1: really clipping in fake hair. Was like, that's huge, forget
Speaker 1: the premiere, You're going on the pod. He literally could
Speaker 1: say I quote, that's huge for you, but we know
Speaker 1: it's really like the most exciting thing to happen to
Speaker 1: either of us. I would say that's not true, that's
Speaker 1: not true. This film is more exciting than the pod.
Speaker 1: It is. It just is. Let's talk about it must,
Speaker 1: let's talk about I want to know and I I
Speaker 1: had this thought throughout the film, especially in your scenes.
Speaker 1: What was I mean, this is such a gross like
Speaker 1: James Lipton asked question, but like, but I want to know,
Speaker 1: like what how did you How did you both develop
Speaker 1: this chemistry between between these characters, because I was like,
Speaker 1: this is crackling, this is unlike anything I've ever seen. Okay,
Speaker 1: Molly is a really good listener, and she's like an
Speaker 1: open person, where like she's like warm but not in
Speaker 1: a fake way. And so I feel like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I feel like we clicked because also our dressing rooms
Speaker 1: which was my dressing rooms, a child's bedroom was maybe
Speaker 1: a guest room, and we would go and sit in
Speaker 1: each other's rooms and just talk, and I feel like
Speaker 1: it was like natural. Yeah, but you had not met beforehand. No,
Speaker 1: that's like even weird to me. Yeah, I was just
Speaker 1: so attracted to Rachel because she's so singular. I was like,
Speaker 1: who is this human being? I just want to know
Speaker 1: everything about her. It was so effortless because of like
Speaker 1: who she is as a human. Oh my god. We
Speaker 1: met only one before, in A Jack's Wife. FRIEDA, Wait
Speaker 1: what and which one Jack's by? FRIEDA, what is this?
Speaker 1: We already got We're in the movie. We didn't know
Speaker 1: each other before. Yes, yes, it was like literally two
Speaker 1: days before filming. We met in A jack Swife just
Speaker 1: coincidentally or you were like, hey, we meant us, let's
Speaker 1: get lunch. We met on We met on purpose. I
Speaker 1: should have said it wasn't I was. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, do you also frequent this? Jack FRIEDA. Yeah,
Speaker 1: its purpose, but it's isn't it so great when the
Speaker 1: lunch goes well like the pre lunch? Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I was nervous honestly. Well yeah, yeah. And then Molly
Speaker 1: came in and me and Emma the writer director were
Speaker 1: already there, and then she came right up to us
Speaker 1: and um like touched our hair and was like, we
Speaker 1: all have the same hair, and then you do. It
Speaker 1: went beautiful from there, Yeah, I mean we all look
Speaker 1: exactly the same. So it's kind of weird that we
Speaker 1: didn't know. We're like, we look exactly the same. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is perfect. This is perfect because had you had
Speaker 1: you seen Molly before, Rachel, Yeah, in film and television.
Speaker 1: I saw her in Book Smart last, I saw her
Speaker 1: in Good Boys, but actually we had that was after
Speaker 1: we had met, but Books and I saw her in First,
Speaker 1: So I also had seen Molly in Book Smart and
Speaker 1: Molly in many things, and then I was surprised when
Speaker 1: you meet Molly and she's so like, I'm extremely friendly
Speaker 1: because she do play a lot of characters Molly that
Speaker 1: are sort of like, I'm actually the coolest bitch you've
Speaker 1: ever met, and don't speak to me. I'll speak to
Speaker 1: you if I want, but that's only if I want.
Speaker 1: That's sort of the energy a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of the characters you play. But then you are so lovely. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I have no idea. I maybe I
Speaker 1: just can't get past as like a nice person. I
Speaker 1: don't know why, but it's it's not a simple. I
Speaker 1: think it's like kind of flattens some context to be like, well,
Speaker 1: Molly only plays these like aloof people. Because there was
Speaker 1: something about Book Smart where I think when you pick
Speaker 1: up it reveals itself at the end that there's more
Speaker 1: going on there. But like also Triple A is you
Speaker 1: know the Triple A. Well, even even when even in
Speaker 1: that scene where because you pick up Beanie in uh
Speaker 1: in Book Smart, right, there's there's there's that interaction there
Speaker 1: that scene where it's like, oh wait, this is like
Speaker 1: this is not just like mean person. This is like
Speaker 1: a grounded coolness that you're like, I don't think I've
Speaker 1: seen this before, because I think there's been a model
Speaker 1: that's been set and we've Matt and I've talked about
Speaker 1: this million times of like the Regina George model of
Speaker 1: like mean person, and I was and this was just
Speaker 1: like in Book Smart was just like oh wait, yeah,
Speaker 1: like this we we've that person is sort of a
Speaker 1: caricature of something and and and Molly's portrayal of that
Speaker 1: character in Book Smart is like very very very much
Speaker 1: swinging the other way where it's like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: someone you would meet in real life and you aren't
Speaker 1: your second guessing whether or not this person is like
Speaker 1: stand offish. Is that fair to say stand offish is
Speaker 1: like a harsh word? No, No No, No, that's that's so
Speaker 1: kind of you. But yeah, I think I think it's
Speaker 1: exciting that like we I don't know that, Yeah, to
Speaker 1: not cast people that like maybe on the page look
Speaker 1: like those kind of characters are like the mean hawk girl,
Speaker 1: but like pick a more kind of normal looking person.
Speaker 1: I'm thankful for that, for that journey, and to also
Speaker 1: play someone that's mean but also like probably is more
Speaker 1: vulnerable underneath, right, because that really is, isn't it? Inside
Speaker 1: all of us is more is more? Also, I would
Speaker 1: say Beanie's character projecting being and kids projecting all over
Speaker 1: you and then maybe because and I do that too,
Speaker 1: where sometimes I'm like that I see a girl on Instagram,
Speaker 1: I follow her, of course I look through definitely I'm
Speaker 1: also and I'm like, she would be mean to me
Speaker 1: in real life, And I think that I like build
Speaker 1: almost like what it would be like to talk to
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, and then you meet them and
Speaker 1: they're kind of like, hey, like completely right, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? You're like, as I've actually built up
Speaker 1: this insane persona of you because of like and it's
Speaker 1: all very specific to like every little insecurity that I have.
Speaker 1: So it's like, do you know what I mean? We
Speaker 1: all relate to this. But then Rachel, like you've you've
Speaker 1: probably I mean you must have gotten this from other
Speaker 1: people who are like wow, like Rachel, oh my god,
Speaker 1: like they've built up this full image around like interacting
Speaker 1: with you too. I feel like the version that I
Speaker 1: get to that is like if I go on a
Speaker 1: date and they're like, are you gonna tweet about me? Like, like,
Speaker 1: I can't even get us wine because it's gonna be
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Yeah, I'll be an alcoholic on Twitter, won't. Yes,
Speaker 1: that is what I got. And sometimes and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that actually I that was the old me. But that
Speaker 1: I only would do. I would only do that if
Speaker 1: you're being really toxic and we were already involved in
Speaker 1: a non relationship relationship. Fair game. I'm only tweeting true things.
Speaker 1: If you're someone that I'm going on a first date with,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tweet about you unless I say
Speaker 1: it to you first. And you actually approve a lot
Speaker 1: of my tweets about people, they yeah, wait, how do
Speaker 1: you meet your boyfriend? Okay, Molly involved, Um, he dm
Speaker 1: me on Instagram at four am. Um, so she but
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Well, okay, he basically sent me a message.
Speaker 1: I wonder if I can find the message. Um, he's
Speaker 1: scroll is it? Is it a long exchange or you
Speaker 1: guys do you guys just made it happen pretty quickly,
Speaker 1: because that's that's that's beautiful. We've been dating since early October. Okay,
Speaker 1: come on, six months, six months. Happier Okay, math olympiads
Speaker 1: proud of myself. Ass happier. Okay, I'm moving my wedding
Speaker 1: my ring. He messaged me before in the morning saying
Speaker 1: I was looking at your Instagram at four in the
Speaker 1: morning and it was really funny read sexual. Um. And
Speaker 1: so then he said, if you're ever in l A
Speaker 1: and want to hang out, I would love to m
Speaker 1: And were you immediately struck by his sort of you know,
Speaker 1: aesthetic as well? No? No. I initially was like, here's
Speaker 1: the thing I was. That was when I was still
Speaker 1: home living in my parents basement and I was doing
Speaker 1: I mean, he seemed cute and cool, but I was
Speaker 1: doing a lot of like texting things, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I haven't like seen anyone in person. I've just been
Speaker 1: like FaceTime jerking off with guy after guy. It's like exhausting.
Speaker 1: So I we message for a little, but then I
Speaker 1: kind of it sort of fell off. Then I get
Speaker 1: to l a Um and I didn't I didn't immediately
Speaker 1: message him back because I got there in September. Then
Speaker 1: I was saying, you out with Molly, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: like this guy messagement and hang out. You guys follow
Speaker 1: each other? Is he cool? Oh? Is there is there
Speaker 1: a revealing this guy? Okay? Sorry, Well then Molly, do
Speaker 1: you want to say what you said to me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that I birthed him, No, that I I love he's
Speaker 1: my kid. No, I just said I I love Logan.
Speaker 1: He's well, actually, the big I'm like a white man.
Speaker 1: The big reveal is that I adore this man. And
Speaker 1: I was like, he's lovely and kind, and I said
Speaker 1: they'll date for a long time. And I said, run
Speaker 1: into this man's arm. Who you knew? I'm a job.
Speaker 1: Molly was pro And then we went on and I
Speaker 1: looked at our text because we were doing this the
Speaker 1: other night where I was looking at what I said
Speaker 1: to Molly. After our first date, we went on a
Speaker 1: date at he literally asked me hang out at four
Speaker 1: thirty pm, which is in psychonic day daytime. We went
Speaker 1: on a really long That's the only that should have
Speaker 1: been a red flag. But other than that, it was
Speaker 1: such a great day. He's really sweet. Um, I just
Speaker 1: love him and um, well, what's crazy is we would
Speaker 1: have met in person at south By because he's there
Speaker 1: for another film, and so it's sort of like we
Speaker 1: were like, okay, we were meant to meet. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is beautiful. So can I say something? Don't sleep
Speaker 1: on daytime dates because I think it also ultimately takes
Speaker 1: a pressure off that is there during a nighttime date.
Speaker 1: I recently had a very good daytime date. I hope
Speaker 1: he's listening hello. Um. But it was almost like because
Speaker 1: I was like, let's hang out on Saturday night. And
Speaker 1: then right after I said it, I was like, is
Speaker 1: that aggressive? And then he was like, well, let's hang
Speaker 1: out like um during the day like a too. We
Speaker 1: can get like drinks outside or whatever. And I was like, okay, cool.
Speaker 1: And that made it more casual for me, and that
Speaker 1: lets chemistry flow forth instead of it being like this
Speaker 1: like steamy night you know what I mean. It kind
Speaker 1: of makes its easier, I think. And do you know what,
Speaker 1: I actually like that because usually I feel like when
Speaker 1: I hear daytime date I think hike right, not necessarily
Speaker 1: getting bitten by bugs not good. It can be frozen cocktails,
Speaker 1: it can be wait, Molly, because last time I saw
Speaker 1: you you were sort of towing the waters. We're not
Speaker 1: going to talk about this from me, but I'm so
Speaker 1: happy telling then I don't have off pod. We'll I'll
Speaker 1: connect off pod and we can. Okay, Molly is Molly
Speaker 1: is not getting into it on the air. She's I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm literally in bed with you, but I'm not, Oh
Speaker 1: my god in you, but I'm not going to get
Speaker 1: any don't tube in. I'm I'm so happy that we
Speaker 1: all are here together because actually it's funny. Like I
Speaker 1: was about to message you guys, and then I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the movie yet. I don't know, like
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten to like to see like if the
Speaker 1: chemistry obviously is good on screen and off. So I
Speaker 1: asked Ben Platt. I was like, wait, so like Rachel, like,
Speaker 1: is that a good vibe? Should we have them on
Speaker 1: the pot together? And he was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: absolutely yes, with each other, would die, they would love.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, great, that's but I did run
Speaker 1: it by him first because I was like I would
Speaker 1: hate to be like come on together and then find
Speaker 1: out that the girls were befuting, yeah, enemies for years
Speaker 1: this big front a movie together, but little do you
Speaker 1: know you chat Yeah happens all the time. Let's say
Speaker 1: I was in either of your position and I did
Speaker 1: not like the other one. I would still think it
Speaker 1: would be kind of interesting and fun to go on
Speaker 1: something together and do something together. I just love the
Speaker 1: idea that there would be like a huge food in
Speaker 1: like the indie community for our like a hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollar movie, but like get Along, he didn't get along
Speaker 1: on set when we shot it. I would always take
Speaker 1: the one selser that was available before before we get
Speaker 1: into um, we have to ask you both of the
Speaker 1: absolute question. But I want to know about Queen Diana A.
Speaker 1: Graham because I absolutely could have been standing since the
Speaker 1: beginning of time and then I saw the movie and
Speaker 1: she was so good at that's phenomenal. Do we love Yes,
Speaker 1: she's a wonderful fucking person. Yeah, it's great. God, I
Speaker 1: love her, And she's so funny, so good. She really
Speaker 1: is fantastic in it, and she's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say though, I texted I told Molly
Speaker 1: this recently on an interview. They asked me, like, what
Speaker 1: was it like working with Diana, And I was like,
Speaker 1: she is the most lovely, kind, beautiful. I cherished her,
Speaker 1: and then I said, in the movie she's so good.
Speaker 1: Her character is like terrifying to me, like when she
Speaker 1: hands me the baby. Article headlines Rachel Sennett is terrified
Speaker 1: of Diana grand doing. These people fans are also keeping
Speaker 1: this movie alive. Sometimes they say like, I'm so sorry
Speaker 1: Diana had to be in a film with like Sea
Speaker 1: Liss celebrities, so that was amazing, But they also like,
Speaker 1: are keeping this movie afloat from so thankful so interesting?
Speaker 1: For them? We are, well, there's something we are I
Speaker 1: have no authority on this, and I'm speaking purely as
Speaker 1: like as an idiot who is out of touch, but like,
Speaker 1: I think there's something about Greek culture that has aged
Speaker 1: up into like the general Twitter discord, something about like
Speaker 1: them being empowered by a show that a show likely
Speaker 1: amazing like what we all would have wanted as like
Speaker 1: little queer kids, but then like they feel like they
Speaker 1: have this power and they do to like really make
Speaker 1: their opinions known about stuff, and that's that's that's all
Speaker 1: I'll say, yes, but maybe but maybe that that's that's
Speaker 1: them thinking, Oh, that's them going I can't. It's so
Speaker 1: nice to Diana a Grant to be in this movie
Speaker 1: with like normal normal actors or not normal actors, but
Speaker 1: like U compliment. But it makes me think about the fact,
Speaker 1: like I'm so happy that I wasn't kid when I
Speaker 1: was watching I that I didn't have like Twitter or
Speaker 1: TikTok when I was watching Glee. I don't know what
Speaker 1: I would have done. I had Vine, and that was
Speaker 1: already a little freaky with me, so I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have done Where were you both Gleeks? Yes,
Speaker 1: I was. I liked the first couple of seasons a lot.
Speaker 1: And the reason I think that it makes sense that
Speaker 1: it's sort of like um developed into stand into like
Speaker 1: what you're describing, but when it's like a stand Twitter
Speaker 1: is because they were all pop stars in a way
Speaker 1: like like you would you. It wasn't like a normal
Speaker 1: TV show where like you stand a character like once
Speaker 1: they started recording music, they were all like little pop stars,
Speaker 1: especially like the rivalries on the show itself, like those
Speaker 1: were narratives that then would would eventually play out online,
Speaker 1: and I think that probably is a show that like
Speaker 1: gets revisited a lot and everything now, like it probably
Speaker 1: has people watching it now they're like discovering it and
Speaker 1: then they take two to gleek Twitter. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say that. I just the movie is phenomenal. But
Speaker 1: you see Diana, Diana's character and you're like, oh god,
Speaker 1: oh this poor woman. But also she's she is terrifying
Speaker 1: in this way, and she is adding this crazy stakes
Speaker 1: layer to it, and it's just there's the alchemy and
Speaker 1: all of this is beautiful, I think, And I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just think it's phenomenal. I just I just had
Speaker 1: a compliment everybody about this. Anyway, I really loved it too,
Speaker 1: and especially because like not to give anything away about
Speaker 1: the ending, but what I really loved about like what
Speaker 1: it's so it was inspiring to me too, Like it
Speaker 1: really just takes place in the amount of time it takes,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, which I really liked. And
Speaker 1: then at the very end, without saying anything, like there's
Speaker 1: a moment between your two characters where you realize, like,
Speaker 1: while this two hours or whatever has been such a
Speaker 1: sort of tough like maybe scarring experience for Rachel's character,
Speaker 1: like what she's going to leave with and what's going
Speaker 1: to be important in her life and the grand scheme
Speaker 1: of everything is this relationship. And like I just thought
Speaker 1: that that was like that that there was like a
Speaker 1: truly it was like a three second moment at the
Speaker 1: very very end where I was like, Oh, that's like
Speaker 1: the whole movie right there. It's just like it's really
Speaker 1: about how like we all have those periods in our life.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you both have had them where it's just
Speaker 1: like I feel like I am in hell and now
Speaker 1: you look back on it and you're like, wow, I
Speaker 1: really felt like I was in hell. But something I
Speaker 1: still have from that is this relationship or this moment
Speaker 1: or this thing I learned about myself. So like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, was that something that you felt in the
Speaker 1: script or was it something that you felt when you
Speaker 1: watched it? Like I wonder about that For you guys,
Speaker 1: Matt and Bowen, I feel like you saw me and
Speaker 1: how the last time I did. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: oh my god, yeah, yeah, you were having that. It
Speaker 1: was really really that was actually maybe the lowest point
Speaker 1: in my life. But I remember you came up to
Speaker 1: me and like, you you were really in distress, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah, openly crying the whole show.
Speaker 1: I was, honestly, I felt so supported by everyone on
Speaker 1: the show, literally all one hundred comedians. Every person gave
Speaker 1: me like a little bit of wisdom, so getting I
Speaker 1: was taking hits off of people's jewels and we like right,
Speaker 1: but it was I really felt like I went through
Speaker 1: the arc that Danielle goes through in one day, from
Speaker 1: probably the time that we did the short to the feature,
Speaker 1: where I felt like I like could not get in,
Speaker 1: I could not get people to I could not get
Speaker 1: respect in relationships, or I felt like I couldn't and
Speaker 1: I felt like it was so I felt like it
Speaker 1: was so hard to get someone to love me, and
Speaker 1: like I was just like a mess. After that night,
Speaker 1: I was addicted to poppers every I literally was a
Speaker 1: day for three months. There are a time one morning
Speaker 1: where Katherine Cohen took me to like brunch. I was
Speaker 1: crying openly during that. Then she gave me water down
Speaker 1: vodka and I went to walk back to my apartment
Speaker 1: and I had to like sit down on the on
Speaker 1: the ground, meaning the concrete sidewalk of the West Side Highway,
Speaker 1: just doing poppers raw eleven am in the daylight because
Speaker 1: I was like, I need to do something and I
Speaker 1: felt I had to go through that and my friend
Speaker 1: through um Miles, not Danielle's friend, she's but I mean
Speaker 1: there are exces, but it's that the same thing where
Speaker 1: it's like you, I think you have to like go
Speaker 1: through that like really shitty time to know like you're
Speaker 1: worth or like make it to change. And like at
Speaker 1: the end of the movie, I think, I don't think
Speaker 1: Danielle goes home and it's like I'm starting a business tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It might even it might even continue to be bad
Speaker 1: for her for a few months after that, like she'll
Speaker 1: have to find herself out of her emotional situation, her
Speaker 1: literal physical situation. But what I loved about that moment
Speaker 1: at the end is it was like this girl has
Speaker 1: real love in her life and she's like and and
Speaker 1: that that ending the movie. On that moment, I thought
Speaker 1: is like it was a way to say this will
Speaker 1: be something that will that she will remember and that
Speaker 1: will help her, and that she will she she hasn't
Speaker 1: lost as much as she thinks and spatially it's like
Speaker 1: you have May and Danielle sort of walking in the
Speaker 1: open air and then and then the movie without giving
Speaker 1: away like the last sort of moment of it, it
Speaker 1: like it ends on another moment of claustrophobia, where like
Speaker 1: the whole film is about just like things closing in
Speaker 1: on you, and like this is just one last charming
Speaker 1: moment of like some resolution but still ultimately like you're
Speaker 1: packed in. That's all. That's all we will say. But like,
Speaker 1: but Rachel talked about this timing where like you were
Speaker 1: you had just finished the short at that time when
Speaker 1: you were doing Poppers off the Webside Highway. That was
Speaker 1: actually after that was right after we finished the feature.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I would say that period of my
Speaker 1: life began after the short. Twenty three was really the
Speaker 1: rough year, but twenty four it was like segueing out,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm old, I've lived it all, I've grown.
Speaker 1: How long was that from the short to the feature,
Speaker 1: like to to three years? So you felt like you
Speaker 1: were in like a personal hell even while you were
Speaker 1: shooting the film. I think it was like not every
Speaker 1: single day, but do you know when you look back
Speaker 1: at a period of your life, it feels like a
Speaker 1: fever the whole time. YEA, yeah, We're just like I
Speaker 1: was like, there were so many decisions. I was just mad.
Speaker 1: I just like if I was to see her, I
Speaker 1: would be like, oh, no, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: but you have to write, you must, I mean I
Speaker 1: think that, Yeah, those that just looking back on those
Speaker 1: periods I remember, I feel like one is probably like
Speaker 1: when I was like coming out of the closet. I remember,
Speaker 1: I can describe it as they're feeling like I was
Speaker 1: in having a fee for every single day. And then
Speaker 1: that happened again during my Sorry, but like returned to
Speaker 1: Saturn when I was like years old, when we were
Speaker 1: going through a lot, and like personally I was going
Speaker 1: through a lot, and it just feels like I would
Speaker 1: open my eyes every single day and I would just
Speaker 1: be like the first thing I would think is like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to wake up and do this day.
Speaker 1: And now looking back on those periods, it's like those
Speaker 1: are some of the most important because because ultimately you
Speaker 1: do make it through them and then and then you
Speaker 1: feel stronger because of it. I would imagine Molly's had
Speaker 1: these times as well. She's like right now, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: That's why I think the movie is so important for
Speaker 1: also like, um, all these little ladies that are trapped
Speaker 1: in their homes right now, because like, yeah, the only
Speaker 1: way is through, and like you can't spend your life
Speaker 1: being like why is this fucking happening? Why is this
Speaker 1: not working out? Why? And you just have to like
Speaker 1: push on and try to learn from those experiences and
Speaker 1: like how humbling is life if you like just let
Speaker 1: it happen to you and like learn from it and
Speaker 1: don't I have spent so much of my life being
Speaker 1: like why is this happening? What instead of being like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I am becoming a better human. I
Speaker 1: am learning so much. I don't know anything. And I
Speaker 1: feel like this movie like dances that dance so beautifully
Speaker 1: and I wish because I I they don't teach you that.
Speaker 1: They just don't know. I watched this movie. And then
Speaker 1: even now as we're talking about I'm like, oh, but
Speaker 1: you know, there's something that I feel like I've learned
Speaker 1: and gleaned over the past year, um, just in terms
Speaker 1: of coping with ship, and I feel like that is
Speaker 1: kind of what the movie is about. Ultimately, Earth you
Speaker 1: want you go on this real time journey with Um
Speaker 1: with Danielle and you're just like, oh god, this this
Speaker 1: is all impossible. And then and then somehow it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, mill like the only way is through, and
Speaker 1: you're just like okay, like you built the plane as
Speaker 1: you flew it and maybe but you also just like
Speaker 1: by the end, by the end of it, you have
Speaker 1: a plane at least like you have some again mechanism
Speaker 1: around like dealing with something as harrowing as that and
Speaker 1: ex podcast like your guys friendship, I feel like so
Speaker 1: much you're like and then we talked and like I
Speaker 1: was able to feel better about something for a second,
Speaker 1: and like that moment at the end where they like
Speaker 1: hold hands is like okay, like one person in my
Speaker 1: life like kind of understands me, and like that's enough
Speaker 1: for this moment. It doesn't understand, but like is willing
Speaker 1: to look at me and like see me, and that's
Speaker 1: like enough for this moment, and like our friends are
Speaker 1: those people and how lucky are we? Totally yeah, And
Speaker 1: it's it's it really the fact that it's the fact
Speaker 1: that I feel like I was able to watch this
Speaker 1: movie and then leave feeling good, like says so much
Speaker 1: about that moment because you really like the girl is
Speaker 1: like like Danielle is so it's so bad for her,
Speaker 1: Like you're you're like, oh my god, this is so
Speaker 1: it's so rough, like like by the time that movie
Speaker 1: is over, you're like, oh no, like this girl, like
Speaker 1: is it over? And then and then there's that moment
Speaker 1: and you just feel so much better and like testament
Speaker 1: to the directing, we gotta say, yeah, what's what's what's
Speaker 1: Emma's deal? We have talked about Emma. I know, I
Speaker 1: just have to say that I misunderstood the last page
Speaker 1: of the film and I still said yes to it,
Speaker 1: And I told Rachel I read it and I thought
Speaker 1: that my character was fingering her in the back. You
Speaker 1: thought that until you were going to shoot it. I
Speaker 1: literally on the day was like, okay, like how do
Speaker 1: I get into this? Alright, so she's like a moment
Speaker 1: of connection alright, like psycho um. But let's talk about Emma,
Speaker 1: who's like the most unbelievable force and the way, Yeah, Rachel, yes,
Speaker 1: talk about Emma. Talk about Emma. Well, Emma I met
Speaker 1: when I auditioned for the short, and I literally feel
Speaker 1: like it was like state, like I think she is
Speaker 1: a genius. She's so like she's so I feel like
Speaker 1: we're similar but so different and in a way where
Speaker 1: we like complement each other. Like she's so grounded and
Speaker 1: she knows what she wants. Like I remember Molly saying
Speaker 1: to me when it was like the second or third
Speaker 1: day of shooting, like, oh my god, look at how
Speaker 1: happy she is. She's literally like glowing in her element
Speaker 1: because she's so I mean, Okay, this is gonna sound stupid.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how hard directing was and what you mean, Yes,
Speaker 1: it's the hardest job. You have to do so much
Speaker 1: heart attack every day. It's so it literally is like
Speaker 1: n degrees in the house. There are old people, there's
Speaker 1: a baby that is screaming on an offset, whether or
Speaker 1: not there the baby was on camera, and it's like
Speaker 1: every person who has a question about anything is like Emma,
Speaker 1: and like she just knew what she wanted, which I
Speaker 1: think it was like you have to be you have
Speaker 1: to like be flexible and work with everyone, but also
Speaker 1: like maintain your vision. And I think Emma did that beautifully.
Speaker 1: And she also wrote from a place of I think
Speaker 1: she wrote about things that were connect she connected to
Speaker 1: in her life. And like we're important to her. And
Speaker 1: I think that really resonated with young women and you
Speaker 1: can like, I mean but when when you were talking
Speaker 1: about like stands and Twitter, I was like, it's honestly
Speaker 1: like sometimes they can be scary, but there but also
Speaker 1: they like supported the movie and our reason that it's
Speaker 1: like doing so well because like young women shared it
Speaker 1: on social media and so yeah, I feel like that
Speaker 1: speaks to Emma's like talent and boys very intuitive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it sounds like and and is and is it
Speaker 1: one of those things where it's like you meet someone
Speaker 1: like that on a collaborative level or on a on
Speaker 1: a on a friendship level with like you and Molly,
Speaker 1: But it's like it doesn't feel like falling in love
Speaker 1: when it's like so so perfect. It's like, wow, I
Speaker 1: found someone you know, like and you two like have
Speaker 1: this this creative relationship now that's about to pop off
Speaker 1: and like do do more things and that's the best
Speaker 1: thing you want. It literally does feel We were saying
Speaker 1: that it feels like Shiva is like we had a
Speaker 1: baby together, but I will say she is the one
Speaker 1: that gave birth and I'm like the because we edited it,
Speaker 1: like I was involved, but she gave the birth. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it feels very very special and it honestly
Speaker 1: does feel like a marriage. And then it's like as
Speaker 1: you get to new levels you have, it's like such
Speaker 1: a deep relationship because you have to be able to
Speaker 1: like balance your your friendship and like working creative like
Speaker 1: so much. I mean, like obviously you guys know, like
Speaker 1: it's like when you're doing a problem, it's there's so
Speaker 1: many different things. Um, but like it feels very very special.
Speaker 1: And I remember when we went to south By for
Speaker 1: the shore, we like stayed in like one little room
Speaker 1: in an airbb together and like I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, she's like my person. Be such like a
Speaker 1: special week. And then now and then we met Mollie
Speaker 1: and now we're a gorgeous group of friends. It's just
Speaker 1: it feels very a triptych. But I have to say
Speaker 1: Rachel and Emma are the most inspiring, unbelievable duo and
Speaker 1: like don't wait around for people to give them opportunities.
Speaker 1: They just made a movie for no money themselves, and
Speaker 1: we're like brave enough to do that. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: we all know so many people that are like I
Speaker 1: want to do this and I want to do this
Speaker 1: and are just waiting around like someone to give them
Speaker 1: money to make something, and they just like fucking did
Speaker 1: it and it's working out for them. Yeah. Well, we
Speaker 1: love the movie and can't recommend it enough to everyone. Um,
Speaker 1: we have to ask these ladies the question. It was
Speaker 1: the really essential question of mar Sha. Wouldn't you say
Speaker 1: a bow? Yes, I would say so, I would say so. Well,
Speaker 1: the question is what was the culture that made you
Speaker 1: say culture is for you? And Molly Gordon, I would
Speaker 1: like to pose it to you first, what was the
Speaker 1: culture that made you say culture was for you? Wow?
Speaker 1: I can't believe to be at this moment, I being
Speaker 1: a lifelong fan, to be spending here on this stage,
Speaker 1: I think absolutely. I think mine would be seeing our
Speaker 1: rated movies with my parents on a Friday night when
Speaker 1: I was It was kind of aged inappropriate for me
Speaker 1: to be seeing them. Um. I really connected to caper
Speaker 1: Land's episode about an only child and like being brought
Speaker 1: to things that maybe you wouldn't normally be brought to
Speaker 1: because there was no one to leave you with. And
Speaker 1: I just remember my parents bringing me like to Anchorman
Speaker 1: when I was ten years old, and like getting thrifty
Speaker 1: ice cream and chip like sitting between them. Everyone else
Speaker 1: is on a date and it's a path theater and
Speaker 1: everyone is just laughing so fucking hard, and like the
Speaker 1: communal laughter was so infectious and amazing. And when he
Speaker 1: said like Sandiago is a whales, so fucking hard, but
Speaker 1: I had no idea what it meant literally annoyed, but
Speaker 1: every the whole like it makes me sad in COVID
Speaker 1: because I missed that so much. Like the whole room
Speaker 1: was shaking. Yeah, I'm like, oh, all I want to
Speaker 1: do is like understand why people are laughing like this
Speaker 1: idea and like just being I don't know, getting to
Speaker 1: to kind of see things maybe that I shouldn't have,
Speaker 1: but but kind of being so curious about what they were.
Speaker 1: It was so like exciting and made me want to
Speaker 1: kind of be in on that joke. Literally bow and wait.
Speaker 1: This reminds me of so about me bowing and and a.
Speaker 1: Dresen went to see Fifty Shades of Gray years ago.
Speaker 1: We went to go see fifty Shades of Day and
Speaker 1: literally we watch probably i'm gonna say of the movie,
Speaker 1: like we get all the way to the end, it's
Speaker 1: She's been like every which way, like truly, like they
Speaker 1: have sex so many times in the most fifty shades
Speaker 1: of gray ways. The movie really goes there. And then
Speaker 1: at the end of the theater, like in the back,
Speaker 1: we just hear this voice and it was huge. It
Speaker 1: was like it was like the I picks like in
Speaker 1: like but yeah, like it was like a huge deal,
Speaker 1: like it was like on Valentine's that I remember. It
Speaker 1: was a huge deal. And then back of the theater,
Speaker 1: we just hear mommy and he go into the bathroom
Speaker 1: and literally this child, Like everyone just cathartically goes what
Speaker 1: And it's just like everyone just turned around, like it
Speaker 1: was like the hundreds of people a sea of people
Speaker 1: just turning to the source that being like what happened?
Speaker 1: Someone had brought their child to that movie? Like because
Speaker 1: al right and movie shore And then Anna said like
Speaker 1: at the time she said, like she was laughing to
Speaker 1: we were all having but she was like, you know,
Speaker 1: some people they can't afford to sit here, like yeah,
Speaker 1: they have to bring their kids like whatever. And I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, but probably not this movie.
Speaker 1: This is like mommy needed Mommy needs her fixed. Like
Speaker 1: I'm talking like comedy an R rated comedy. We're talking
Speaker 1: a group comedy. We're talking about a couple of square words.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about your frontal tie up community, yes,
Speaker 1: community tie up munity. I have a couple of I
Speaker 1: have a couple of questions though. One it's interesting that
Speaker 1: you bring up the only child, because do you think
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't have been brought to these movies had
Speaker 1: you had siblings? Yeah, I just think when you're an
Speaker 1: only child, you kind of get brought around. I really
Speaker 1: connected with her being like you you go to these
Speaker 1: dinner parties and you kind of like ask these questions
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't You're you're brought into the conversation and
Speaker 1: it's such a beautiful thing at such a younger age.
Speaker 1: But also like sometimes you're like should I really be talking?
Speaker 1: But it's also why I feel like I've I always
Speaker 1: connected more to like older people, until I got to
Speaker 1: a certain age where I was like that's like where
Speaker 1: I was like, I have all my friends are older,
Speaker 1: and it was like Ben Platt, that's like a year
Speaker 1: and a half and I was like, um, but but yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think my parents were like, oh, we can't
Speaker 1: like fully afford a cit a right now, and like
Speaker 1: maybe if they had another kid it would have been it,
Speaker 1: or they would have had friends that had more kids
Speaker 1: and left me with them or anything. Yeah, right, just
Speaker 1: to remark on that it is, I think it is
Speaker 1: a good development. It's a positive thing that like gen
Speaker 1: zers want nothing to do with older people, and it's
Speaker 1: like and that that makes sense because it's like and
Speaker 1: also millennials should not want aspire to be like gen
Speaker 1: zers either. It should it should not go either way
Speaker 1: because it's like if I was in high school and
Speaker 1: like a thirty year old was trying to like mimic me,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, you're fucking weaker. Stop. I feel like
Speaker 1: though millennials looked up to gen X because there was
Speaker 1: aspiration about that generation. Meanwhile, I think that like gen
Speaker 1: Z looks at all the generations above it and it's
Speaker 1: like you all fucked up so bad. I don't want
Speaker 1: anything to do with you or the world that existed before.
Speaker 1: Like it's fucked like we're dealing with so much ship.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that might be why. Like when we when
Speaker 1: we were all younger, like it was like older people
Speaker 1: were cool, you know what I mean, Like even like
Speaker 1: even like the way that like older people played teens,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like the entire cast of
Speaker 1: Clueless being in their late twenties or whatever, Like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like you wanted to be older literally,
Speaker 1: like like all those teams was like she's all that
Speaker 1: or whatever, like Freddie Prince Jr. Being forty always No.
Speaker 1: Now it's like a different thing where they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we fully want like a real person in high school
Speaker 1: to play a high school or not, like are like that,
Speaker 1: And it's like we had two children and it's different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it felt like you guys were the oldest people that
Speaker 1: could have been in Book Smart, Like the older it
Speaker 1: would have been like no way, yes, yes, yes, And
Speaker 1: we were already like it wasn't okay in some ways,
Speaker 1: but I know what you mean. Yeah, it's like now
Speaker 1: I look at how beautiful is it to connect with
Speaker 1: people your own age. I don't know why. I always
Speaker 1: had this huge kind of fixation on it, like they
Speaker 1: deemed me worthy enough or smart enough to be able
Speaker 1: to like talk to them. And my older friends were like,
Speaker 1: why are you, Like we don't even think about you
Speaker 1: as being younger. Sure, well, it felt it felt cool
Speaker 1: to be like precocious or whatever. Right, Yeah, but um, okay,
Speaker 1: the other question was besides ancrem and you remember other
Speaker 1: duties that you guys went to. Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: was always the kind of mackay calm. I feel like
Speaker 1: it was like to um but I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: even honestly it's the R rated comedies, but I think
Speaker 1: for your virgin all those ones, um, those kind of
Speaker 1: stuck with me. I mean, we definitely saw some romantic
Speaker 1: ones to not a full like fifty shades, but that
Speaker 1: was this which is always be able to see. But like,
Speaker 1: this doesn't work, No, bring your eyes and there's sort
Speaker 1: of there's a peeking, and it's it doesn't work for
Speaker 1: the exact reason why why why you're showing which let
Speaker 1: me explain to the readers. Basically, Molly is covering her face,
Speaker 1: but you can see in between her sort of middle
Speaker 1: and index finger there's clearly an eye. So really what
Speaker 1: she can do is see when I saw Spring Awakening
Speaker 1: and I'm seeing a full ask mom goes like this
Speaker 1: in some ways I have a better view of the Okay,
Speaker 1: did you see Jonathan Grof's ass or Hunter Parrish's ass? No?
Speaker 1: Better believe I saw both multiple times in it. I
Speaker 1: wish I had seen John Groff's ass, although you can
Speaker 1: you've seen you can see it so many times in
Speaker 1: film and television now. But I saw Hunter Parrish's ass
Speaker 1: was also it was great. But you can see that
Speaker 1: in film and television too. They both show their s
Speaker 1: a lot, which we love perfect. I love asks male
Speaker 1: celebrity ass. I'm like a connoisseur, like I truly love
Speaker 1: butts so much. Mm hmm, I love that. I love
Speaker 1: that for format. I'm here, I'm gonna be brave and
Speaker 1: say it. Okay. So now we turned, we turned to
Speaker 1: Rachel Senate and we say, now, what was the culture
Speaker 1: that made you say culture was for you? Okay? So
Speaker 1: I thought about this a lot because um Molly and
Speaker 1: I had a pre call to talk about it. Because
Speaker 1: because I there was like a mom, I wanted to
Speaker 1: be like an actress or be in the art since
Speaker 1: I was little. But when I was growing up, I
Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to watch a lot of TV and movies,
Speaker 1: like I wasn't really allowed to watch inappropriate stuff. And
Speaker 1: so I feel when I was in high school, actually
Speaker 1: honestly college, when I was first when I first had
Speaker 1: like a laptop and I could watch stuff. I experienced
Speaker 1: the movie Lingering, and I said, this is my ship,
Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that I want to make, I
Speaker 1: want to be in. I love a movie that's like
Speaker 1: five girls, one guy. They're walking in Unison, we're listening
Speaker 1: to slave owls, they're trying to close, they're calling each
Speaker 1: other bits. That is my head of movie. And I
Speaker 1: loved it. And I think like that that was when
Speaker 1: I was like I knew the genre that that I like, yes,
Speaker 1: oh that's a part. That is such a perfect storry
Speaker 1: to bring up this word again, but that's a perfect
Speaker 1: like activating movie. But but this answers the question so perfectly.
Speaker 1: It is the culture that made you say, I'm going
Speaker 1: to focus it on bling ering. I mean, but that
Speaker 1: is the answer, right, because like that is such a
Speaker 1: good one. Oh my god, slave as You're right, dam
Speaker 1: is underrated, Sophia. The first scene is like when they're
Speaker 1: running through the targeting, like yeah, and then it starts
Speaker 1: with the slave a song and it's like work and
Speaker 1: you're and it's like it's like like like it's so
Speaker 1: good a shot, crazy wide shot and stays on that
Speaker 1: that that one take is that Paris's House. Was there's
Speaker 1: just that one house, yeah, Paris's House where you just
Speaker 1: see them, like you see the whole house and all
Speaker 1: the interiors and they're just like flipping on the lights,
Speaker 1: which is going in and out genius, so good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you can hear and you see them, and then
Speaker 1: there's like one person all the way over here and
Speaker 1: it's like the lightning glass doors. It's great. It's that
Speaker 1: typical thing too, of like it is a very good
Speaker 1: Sofia Coppola movie, but they don't list it as one
Speaker 1: of her best because people don't think that because it's
Speaker 1: about young people and especially young women, they don't give
Speaker 1: it the head everything else. And they do the same
Speaker 1: things with Marie Antoinette, which I believe is her like
Speaker 1: magnum Opus. And I think that it's actually like maybe
Speaker 1: her most important work, because I do think that her
Speaker 1: most important artistic relationship is with Kirsten Dunst, and I
Speaker 1: think that it's so good and so inventive and so
Speaker 1: perfect encapsulation of or at least um in her mind,
Speaker 1: like who this woman might have been, But you don't
Speaker 1: see it talked about as one of Sofia Coppola's best,
Speaker 1: like you do lost in translation, because it's not about
Speaker 1: like a sad older guy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I think, like what she's so good at is
Speaker 1: like really capturing the experience of being a young woman.
Speaker 1: And I think that that that movie. Like maybe it's
Speaker 1: because it was about Hollywood too or about this like
Speaker 1: reality star adjacent group of people. But people sleep on blingering.
Speaker 1: They really do, they really do. Yeah wait, Molly, were
Speaker 1: you going to say something about Marie Intranette? I saw
Speaker 1: your face. No, I just fucking love that movie. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she just like it is career than I feel like
Speaker 1: people give her credit for. Like I think we're all
Speaker 1: very different. Actually, like she has a like you you
Speaker 1: can definitely like link all her films, but like she
Speaker 1: takes like big swings and like takes chances, and I
Speaker 1: feel like they don't, like they don't. I don't know
Speaker 1: who they are, but they don't like when she does that.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you're right, Yeah I haven't. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: on the Rocks. Her newest one, I Never Saw Somewhere
Speaker 1: Somewhere is like a tone poem. Yeah, it's it's really
Speaker 1: sit and it's very it's very much like an actual
Speaker 1: it's very much like a slice of life, actual of
Speaker 1: Stephen Dorff's life, Like do you know that Stephen Dorfreak
Speaker 1: really lives at the Chateau Marmont and like he still does,
Speaker 1: so he really lives there, and like, um, so it's
Speaker 1: really like about this guy that's very close to him,
Speaker 1: and it's got l Fanning and she's really young in
Speaker 1: it and el Fanning kind of going through a pool.
Speaker 1: It's like Casablanca singing. It's a kind one I will
Speaker 1: never be in because we're too loud, Like because you
Speaker 1: swim too loud, as we speak too loud, we're not
Speaker 1: gonna get Yeah, I feel like screen acting is just
Speaker 1: about literally, but you two have done that absolutely. It's
Speaker 1: full whisper. It is scary when you realize, wait, if
Speaker 1: I make this tape and I kind of whisper, are
Speaker 1: they're gonna be into it? Literally everything. It's been a
Speaker 1: revolution for me in the past like year and a half.
Speaker 1: Like I I was, I always used to really struggle
Speaker 1: in auditions, and I never knew what was the problem.
Speaker 1: And then I just realized, like, oh, I kept getting
Speaker 1: a note like throw it away, throw it away, you're
Speaker 1: too big, you're too big, because I think it's because
Speaker 1: we are I mean, Rachel and knows, like we are
Speaker 1: truly creatures of the New York stage. So it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, like I didn't have acting training, Like I
Speaker 1: learned how to be effective on stage from screaming in
Speaker 1: a basement. So it was like and and like my
Speaker 1: big tomb face was like a skill of mine. And
Speaker 1: so it was just like when it when it comes
Speaker 1: to on camera acting, like I didn't realize really what
Speaker 1: that ever meant and then throw it away. It's it's
Speaker 1: just truly like you having to understand that, like by
Speaker 1: thinking it, you do it like it's so weird, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't. It almost doesn't feel right. Like sometimes I'll
Speaker 1: leave auditions and feel like but I didn't do anything,
Speaker 1: and those are the ones that go, well, it's so weird.
Speaker 1: But it's good that you guys are all doing this
Speaker 1: snap because I not to like say, like what is me?
Speaker 1: But I feel like I'm fucked because I am working
Speaker 1: in this place where it's like you scream loud and
Speaker 1: you read off of a white paper card and like
Speaker 1: that that's not how it works anywhere else. I actually was,
Speaker 1: so first of all, I have to shout you out
Speaker 1: because you brought the house down and or an icon
Speaker 1: and we're so unbelievable in the last episode, like tucking believable,
Speaker 1: like life changing performance. But you had so many levels
Speaker 1: in that vocally, I phone really you did. There was
Speaker 1: the only one you were like I turned around, like
Speaker 1: and like there was like the small moment. But but
Speaker 1: but it is true though, like remember one time, like
Speaker 1: it's non transferable credits. It's like, yeah, whatever, but well,
Speaker 1: what that's not really true though, because Kristen Wigg is
Speaker 1: super small and she was like on that show and
Speaker 1: was so big right like there, but like I'm not
Speaker 1: a Christian Wegg where i can like switch the gear
Speaker 1: in my head because I'm gonna like I'm truly bringing
Speaker 1: like I am bringing this to other places and I'm
Speaker 1: realizing that it's like it's actually not normal, like I
Speaker 1: like not to I'm sorry, but but like I finished
Speaker 1: Saturday at us to Know, and then on Monday, I
Speaker 1: went into North from Queens and then I was like
Speaker 1: and then I didn't get the know, but I told
Speaker 1: I clocked myself being like you're being too loud, you're
Speaker 1: being too big, and this is this is a different
Speaker 1: thing and you've got you gotta keep it whisper not whisper,
Speaker 1: but like it is the crazy realization. And Molly's probably
Speaker 1: known this for a while, but I feel like, yes,
Speaker 1: but me and Rachel and Matt have probably like been
Speaker 1: to like indoctorated and like the attention. Yeah yeah, well
Speaker 1: it's like the back that you're at Union Hall. There's
Speaker 1: like people being like a beer beer and you're like
Speaker 1: what it's so yeah, Rachel, weren't you a hammer cat? No? No,
Speaker 1: what I got called back did not make it into
Speaker 1: the group. Oh that's that's not my legacy that I
Speaker 1: like to leave. I I don't like that. I I
Speaker 1: want to go speak to them. It's okay, that's do
Speaker 1: you know what. Actually I'm greatful because that's why I
Speaker 1: started doing stand up is because I didn't get so
Speaker 1: then I said I want to perform somewhere. Then I
Speaker 1: met Moss and everyone's like this guy mosses. I love Moss,
Speaker 1: and then um, we would do open Mice together. Paracone, Yes, Paraconi,
Speaker 1: percone Parci Paraconi the best because it's because we used
Speaker 1: to we're used to reading it, I know. And honestly,
Speaker 1: another after of online you're used to reading them on
Speaker 1: the show poster or on Twitter. Moss permanently deleted Twitter.
Speaker 1: Good for half for how long did you know? Gone?
Speaker 1: His account is gone? All right, great? Great? Great? Here
Speaker 1: I needed pro Also, Emma Watson. Whenever anyone's like Emma
Speaker 1: Watson is not great, I'm like, well you didn't see
Speaker 1: the bling ring? When when you can say multiple lines
Speaker 1: that like people say again, first of all, I want
Speaker 1: to rob Yeah, girls, it's time for your aderall. There's
Speaker 1: so many lines in that movie that I just say
Speaker 1: alone to myself when I think I'm going to politics
Speaker 1: or something like that. Rachel playing this and like the
Speaker 1: musical version, I'm kind of kind of maybe be really
Speaker 1: compelling and interesting. Yes as a play, maybe even the play,
Speaker 1: But when were you aware of it as a true
Speaker 1: story when you watched it the first time? I remember
Speaker 1: seeing the trailer. I watched the trailer obsessively because I
Speaker 1: loved I love when it's like candy, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Where you like pops out? Yeah? And
Speaker 1: then I um looked up that it was it said
Speaker 1: I think it said like based on true events or something,
Speaker 1: and then I looked up the videos and then I
Speaker 1: knew that going in. Yeah, and then I knew the
Speaker 1: Alexis Nyers video. They Yeah, Nancy, this is Alexis Nyres calling.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, I'm so disappointed. I gotta still.
Speaker 1: I gotta say. It ends like in a really heartbreaking way. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like, She's like, you don't know that, I'm becoming
Speaker 1: like a little girl, no, a young woman. It's like,
Speaker 1: how this poor girl Alexis And then it got really
Speaker 1: rough for her and then now she's okay, and now
Speaker 1: she's okay. And when she was on when she was
Speaker 1: on Zoe's Live over the summer, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's she's she seems like she's doing well. That was
Speaker 1: her problem. Maybe it wasn't her Saturn return, but that
Speaker 1: was her. And the only way is through. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: the only way is through again, the only ways through,
Speaker 1: The only way is through. It might be the title
Speaker 1: of that. I love that. I love that. Wait before
Speaker 1: we move on, I want to know, Molly. I want
Speaker 1: to ask about this Lakers show. What can you say
Speaker 1: about it? Is it about the l a Lakers in
Speaker 1: the seventies. Yeah, it's about the It's about Magic Johnson
Speaker 1: joining the team in nine and Jerry Buss buying the Lakers. Um,
Speaker 1: but I haven't I start on Friday. It has not.
Speaker 1: We were supposed to shoot a year ago, but then
Speaker 1: we pushed for COVID for a year. So so I'm
Speaker 1: kind of like, maybe it'll stop Friday, or maybe it'll
Speaker 1: start at seventy five years. I'm not sure you're gonna
Speaker 1: start on Friday. Oh and how long is the shoot?
Speaker 1: It's until I think it's like until October, October, November. Um,
Speaker 1: but it'll be, it'll be. It's such a fun time
Speaker 1: period and the music and the costume and it's HBO
Speaker 1: and it's HBO and and it's gorgeous men playing basketball players.
Speaker 1: We have Bo Burnham playing Larry Bird. Oh that's great casting,
Speaker 1: right though, breaking breaking the internet in some ways with that,
Speaker 1: with with that casting, he's lovely. But we we met
Speaker 1: him very briefly multr Fest. We didn't meet him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with during him. Yeah, he's great. He's really
Speaker 1: really good. That be that talented an actor, that talented
Speaker 1: a writer, that talented a director and seemed like such
Speaker 1: a good person, like I don't know it, and that
Speaker 1: talented a comedian stand up, but then also like understand
Speaker 1: the inner mind of like an eighth grade girl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. That movie is so incredible. I couldn't believe
Speaker 1: how good that movie was. Eighth grade. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: That was another one that I was just like and
Speaker 1: talking about visual style and wanting to eat the movie.
Speaker 1: Like that movie was like and the music. Remember the
Speaker 1: scene where like it's like the hot kid and he's
Speaker 1: like such a child, Like he comes out of the
Speaker 1: pool and he's got those like like blue eyes and
Speaker 1: like they do like that sexy like dubstep music and
Speaker 1: you're like I was screaming laughing because I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: this was the kid. Yes, this is the feeling of
Speaker 1: seeing the kid, like sexualizing the kid in this way
Speaker 1: that's for comedy, but also like you do get it,
Speaker 1: like like it's so funny. But also the lighting of
Speaker 1: that movie, like the heat. I feel like I've never
Speaker 1: seen just like a dark room with your your face
Speaker 1: and that's to so many people that like live with
Speaker 1: that and like I haven't really seen that explored. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very sad. Sad when the dad is trying to
Speaker 1: talk to her at dinner and she has the head
Speaker 1: conson and she's like what and I'm like, don't want
Speaker 1: but like sits up. Oh my god. That's how too.
Speaker 1: That's like your first round of how First her anxiety
Speaker 1: attack that she has at the pool party, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. I couldn't believe that a straight man
Speaker 1: was that was responsible for capturing this. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is so real, like that moment of panic, just
Speaker 1: appearing in a swimsuit with your peers like man who
Speaker 1: follows you to into adulthood kind of in a major
Speaker 1: way in and also the end of that movie too,
Speaker 1: where she's like do you think do you think I'm
Speaker 1: a loser or something? Or she says and he's like,
Speaker 1: I think you're so cool and he's telling his daughter
Speaker 1: he thinks she's so cool. Oh my god. And then
Speaker 1: the little date that she has, that little dinner date
Speaker 1: that she has with that kid. Jones deserves to be
Speaker 1: put in heaven for the rest of her life, Like
Speaker 1: what the fuck, let's shout out miss Alison Jones. Iconic
Speaker 1: casting direction. I had one meeting with her, nothing came
Speaker 1: of it, but I enjoyed my experience. She's lovely, like
Speaker 1: the people that are those people not just yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she cast um to force the animated show I wrote.
Speaker 1: I wrote on it. She she doesn't amazing job. Yeah
Speaker 1: I was. I was writing for a show that she
Speaker 1: cast that's animated. More to come on that one. But listen,
Speaker 1: I think we need to go into I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey, just because I know that we're all going
Speaker 1: to promote, provoke conversation with ours, and I know that
Speaker 1: this is going to um going to be a stirring
Speaker 1: group of I don't think so Honey's. Yes, I agree,
Speaker 1: we're going to store conversation. Matt, do you have one?
Speaker 1: Would you like to go first? Yes? I have one
Speaker 1: and I can go first. Okay, um, when you get
Speaker 1: the timer up, this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey, and his time starts now. I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey. Froyo ice cream is better. Sorry about it,
Speaker 1: but if I'm gonna be out here eating any frozen
Speaker 1: tree or dessert, it's gonna be ice cream. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna be frozen yogurt. Ah. So I'm sorry, but I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey fro yo. I can't look at
Speaker 1: you the same anymore. After I watched Emmi Lavado use
Speaker 1: the words fro Yo upwards of fifty times in an
Speaker 1: eight minute long apology video, where she said the sentence
Speaker 1: when I messaged the fro Yo shop dot dot dot,
Speaker 1: like I said, Froyo has jumped the shark. Unfortunately, Demi
Speaker 1: Lavado have ruined frozen yogurt for me? Should say thro
Speaker 1: Yo for us all. Maybe she's right, Maybe shops, maybe
Speaker 1: the big shows should shut right down and we should
Speaker 1: open a soft and straw. Maybe we need a Jenny's.
Speaker 1: Maybe we need a Scoops, which was my hometown ice
Speaker 1: cream place. I'm sorry, but search your memories of childhood.
Speaker 1: Do you have memories of ice cream? Or do you
Speaker 1: have memories of fro Yo? Memories of ice cream? It
Speaker 1: is the blueprint for fro Yo ice cream. First, I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, And that's one minute. I'm I,
Speaker 1: I'm in, I'm I feel that ice cream tastes better.
Speaker 1: Ice creams, flavors are more real feeling, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like it's just like fro you. I just
Speaker 1: feel like I don't I don't get really get it.
Speaker 1: And also yogurt I don't like, so why would I
Speaker 1: like it frozen? Well? We we love yogurt you can
Speaker 1: speak for your fucking self. I love yogurt. Well, wait,
Speaker 1: can I ask whoa? Who? WHOA? I have a breakdown?
Speaker 1: You can ask a question and wait the top back begins. Now, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm now filding questions. Whoa wait? So do you mean
Speaker 1: you mean yogurt yogurt or frozen yogurt? Well I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey was frozen yogurt? I like playing you
Speaker 1: Greek yogurt with um, you know a little bit granola berry, honey, lovely, lovely,
Speaker 1: lovely treats. That simulates ice cream in some ways. But
Speaker 1: froyo is tough because it's it's like pancakes almost. It's
Speaker 1: like the idea sounds great, and then once you're like
Speaker 1: in it, it really kind of doesn't hold up because
Speaker 1: it's never gonna be ice cream, and it's trying to
Speaker 1: be ice cream, and she's never trying to be ice cream. Now, well,
Speaker 1: I actually dressed up in all these flavors. Then why
Speaker 1: is she saying I'm strawberry, I'm vanilla, I'm chocolate. Why
Speaker 1: is she saying you can cover me and all these things?
Speaker 1: If McDonald's soft serve, what where where are we putting
Speaker 1: that ice cream. Ice cream the best ice cream. But
Speaker 1: even though it's it's like quorling like that, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what soft serve ice cream. Now, now we're getting
Speaker 1: into the distinction. And so thank you for teeing up
Speaker 1: taking up this distinction, which is ice cream can be
Speaker 1: both hard scoop or soft serve. It can be both
Speaker 1: frozen yogurt certainly can't scoop it triangle or rectangle square.
Speaker 1: It's not versatile and off. And I'm telling you Demilovado
Speaker 1: like she may have a point, that queen, that queen
Speaker 1: may have had a point. This time, I need to
Speaker 1: say one more thing that you talked about in our
Speaker 1: opening thing before we came in. I fucking hate on
Speaker 1: like TV shows when people don't eat, when people are
Speaker 1: like just playing with the ice cream. Eat that so
Speaker 1: eat it. Just get it. What a gift. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: this this is this actually is an interesting thing. So
Speaker 1: Bowen and I recently did the summer campaign for Bonobo's,
Speaker 1: so that's going to be hitting the internet and screens
Speaker 1: and store storefronts very soon. But they handed us ice
Speaker 1: cream for one of the shots. Bowen, we ate it,
Speaker 1: we ate it all. When I tell you, I I
Speaker 1: ate three whole cones because because what a gift. Because
Speaker 1: a gift. And I never am eating this stuff because
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm trying to be hashtag like body contrast.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to like be good about like what I
Speaker 1: put in my body and like I am being a
Speaker 1: little bit of a psycho and like summer's coming up,
Speaker 1: I need anything bad. Like it's not good. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I'm right, but it is the way I am.
Speaker 1: Um for better or worse than. Like they handed us
Speaker 1: that ice cream and I was like, well, it's for work.
Speaker 1: So then it was just like I was like shoveling
Speaker 1: it down and I think I eat like three cones
Speaker 1: and they were like, Okay, we need to take that
Speaker 1: one because for the shot you need to be holding
Speaker 1: a fresh one. And I was like, well, I'm not
Speaker 1: done with this one, and they're like, yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: for the picture, it's not for you, and I was like,
Speaker 1: well hold on, And so I ate that we were
Speaker 1: eating cotton candy on set. I'm ready to see these
Speaker 1: photos will be fun. They came out good. I love
Speaker 1: eating in a photo, yeah I do, And I honestly
Speaker 1: love to be honest, I do my best acting if
Speaker 1: I'm eating while I'm acting, because there's no way to fake.
Speaker 1: There's no way to fake like authenticity. There's it's it's
Speaker 1: just real, real, it's really you eat the way that
Speaker 1: you eat, and then naturally everything comes out the way
Speaker 1: that I guess. The only thing with that though, is
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a continuity nightmare. Like I
Speaker 1: was wondering about that shooting Shiva Baby because there's so
Speaker 1: much food in the movie, Like, did you ever do
Speaker 1: you have to be like very conscious about like the
Speaker 1: continuity of it all. I will say, the bagel, the
Speaker 1: everything sat out in the house, which again no air conditioning,
Speaker 1: so it was kind of we the it's expensive the food,
Speaker 1: and so like we had the same food and then um,
Speaker 1: the like set person, the like designer would put stuff
Speaker 1: in the fridge in between takes. It wouldn't go bad.
Speaker 1: But why the time I was eating the bagel and
Speaker 1: the locks, they were like, don't put the locks in
Speaker 1: your mouth, So I don't put the other side of
Speaker 1: the bagel into my mouth. And that's a and that's
Speaker 1: a technical thing that you have to think about while
Speaker 1: you're Yeah, there's an extra layer to that, but wait,
Speaker 1: what was this house ditmas park? Yes, yes, lovely. I
Speaker 1: was really impressed with you on that scene, by the way,
Speaker 1: because that was one shot and when you went all
Speaker 1: the way up and did the bagel, I'm like, what
Speaker 1: if she was like freaking out and couldn't butter the
Speaker 1: bagel like she really did that one. I thought that
Speaker 1: that scene with the buttering and the or the schmearring
Speaker 1: and the adding of the everything onto the bagel, I
Speaker 1: thought that was well done. But that was when you're like,
Speaker 1: when you're doing and you don't even really have to
Speaker 1: like you to open the really stress you know, the
Speaker 1: character is focused on the schmearring, not the acting, right exactly.
Speaker 1: All right, Well that's my attack on Froyo for today.
Speaker 1: It feels like I have some people on my side. Um,
Speaker 1: bone Yang, are you ready for your out and think
Speaker 1: so honey, I'm ready. I'm ready. Okay, that's good because
Speaker 1: your time bone Yang starts now. I don't think so,
Speaker 1: honey peeing into a cup Honey. Went to the doctor today.
Speaker 1: First of all, got blood work done. Didn't have the
Speaker 1: heart to tell Trevor my p A that I forgot
Speaker 1: about the blood work, and then I ate already this morning,
Speaker 1: so that's gonna come out all drinking. But then he
Speaker 1: hands me the cup, he goes go into the bathroom,
Speaker 1: drop it off at the window. What a mortified I mean,
Speaker 1: it just feels so unnatural to pee inside a cup,
Speaker 1: and then to be confronted with like, you can you
Speaker 1: smell your piss guaranteed if you're peeing into a cup,
Speaker 1: if it's not a big old toilet bowl or a
Speaker 1: squatter thing. If you're in parts of Europe or Asia,
Speaker 1: thank god, you don't have to smell your own urine.
Speaker 1: But if it's in a cup, if you didn't smell it,
Speaker 1: you gotta screw the lid on. You gotta make sure
Speaker 1: the tapes on right. It's this whole to do that
Speaker 1: you're being and you're like you have urine molecules all
Speaker 1: over your little fingers and nails and cuticles that you're like, wait,
Speaker 1: this room my whole day, and I feel unclean. I
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like a leper in my own piss.
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. Well, it's all for your own
Speaker 1: good bone and so your daughter can take care of you,
Speaker 1: and you know, but I'm just saying, like the act
Speaker 1: of being in a cop really really demoralizing, you feel
Speaker 1: it's demoralizing to humanizing and um degrading. Yes, all three. See,
Speaker 1: I I get it. Do you ever feel concerned that
Speaker 1: you're gonna, like miss or p too much or that
Speaker 1: you're gonna be that asshole that's simply that asshole that
Speaker 1: gives them way too much P in the cup and
Speaker 1: they say, well, we only needed a little Yeah, always
Speaker 1: I P above the late I P above the the decale,
Speaker 1: the sticker. Yeah, there wasn't a lot. There wasn't a
Speaker 1: line on this one. I believe me. I looked well. Also,
Speaker 1: it's you know what's humiliating is when you, of course
Speaker 1: are the jerk who has like bright yellow piss and
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, not the hydration king tonight, No right,
Speaker 1: you always get it on your hand and always all
Speaker 1: over the coast. It's different for you ladies. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's like they I feel for them that they have
Speaker 1: to whole it's the whole thing is so sad. They're
Speaker 1: so used to it. Let me say something about nurses
Speaker 1: and doctors. They've seen so much worse. I'm actually going
Speaker 1: to be vulnerable right now, and this may get cut.
Speaker 1: I will be vulnerable too, and it will get to
Speaker 1: because it's discussing that you go first. Suffice it to
Speaker 1: say that during my surgery that I just had, I
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to eat or drink for like ten
Speaker 1: hours before, so I didn't do that, but woke up
Speaker 1: in the morning and like couldn't really go to the bathroom,
Speaker 1: like either way. So I get to the I get
Speaker 1: to like nice surgery, and I'm like, I haven't eaten,
Speaker 1: but I also haven't gone to the bathroom and like whatever.
Speaker 1: And they were like, oh, it's not a big deal.
Speaker 1: And I was like, so should I keep my underwear
Speaker 1: on during the surgery or like, because because it's my nose,
Speaker 1: like I don't need to have my underwear and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: keep your underwear on. Woke up from the surgery, underwear
Speaker 1: is nowhere to be found, and I don't have to
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom anymore. So I was like, excuse me,
Speaker 1: like knock, knock, um, where is my underwear? And they
Speaker 1: were like, oh, we had to take it off. And
Speaker 1: I was like what and they were like yeah, and um,
Speaker 1: we just so big. We had to give you a
Speaker 1: catheter because you were full of piss. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: full of piss, got it. I know I shipped myself
Speaker 1: during that surgery. I know it. I know that they
Speaker 1: were like doing surgery on me. Atle said, he's full
Speaker 1: of ship. We got to get this out of there,
Speaker 1: and they I know for a fact because I didn't
Speaker 1: shiop for like four days after the surgery either, So
Speaker 1: I know for a fact I know for a fact
Speaker 1: they took it all from me. And also when they
Speaker 1: told me they put that catheter in, they did not
Speaker 1: lie because it was burning when I was peeing for
Speaker 1: about two days after and that was also not a
Speaker 1: good feeling. Surgery. Don't recommend it only if you have
Speaker 1: two people, and remember I did. I'm so sorry, but
Speaker 1: it's so dude. That's when I say, like, these people
Speaker 1: have seen way worse than like I'm getting a little
Speaker 1: bit of pep on their finger, Like please, these people
Speaker 1: have their hands up your ass. Amazing people, amazing, amazing heroes,
Speaker 1: amazing heroes, have their hands up your ass, and it's
Speaker 1: ruler culture number one. Amazing have their hands up your ass.
Speaker 1: Can I share something? And this will definitely get cut
Speaker 1: because it's actually if we keep in what I said,
Speaker 1: it has to we have to given when you say risk,
Speaker 1: and I feel you should. Lately, lately, I've like felt
Speaker 1: a little bit of pain when I when I get fucked,
Speaker 1: well yeah, and I and then I and so then
Speaker 1: I go my prostates enlarged. I have a huge prostate.
Speaker 1: I have a humongous prostate. And so I go into
Speaker 1: the for a fact. Well know here, I I yes,
Speaker 1: I'm convinced of this. And I go to the doctor
Speaker 1: today and I tell Trevor. I go, also, well, he's yeah, Trevor,
Speaker 1: we love him. Um, I go, you know, Trevor, I think, um, lately,
Speaker 1: when my prostate has been stimulated, there's been this stinging
Speaker 1: pain and I wonder if I wonder if I have
Speaker 1: an enlarged prostate. And he goes, who doesn't sound like that?
Speaker 1: It sounds like more of a fisher, but we'll check.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh okay, And he starts putting
Speaker 1: on the gloves and and and gives me an examination.
Speaker 1: And then I when I go to pee in this cup.
Speaker 1: Later on I realized that um, I had not done
Speaker 1: a great job white. Oh my god, Oh this just
Speaker 1: had this happened to me too? I have like a
Speaker 1: physical and they went up there and like I was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, I didn't prep for this. I thought I
Speaker 1: was gonna be like we we're gonna we're gonna go
Speaker 1: in for skan. Here's a referral for like a place
Speaker 1: to do like a scan, which I was ready to
Speaker 1: pony up money for. But like, I'm so sorry, this
Speaker 1: is so this is so disgusting, and Nana and this
Speaker 1: is okay. No, she's a human life. And we're destigmatizing.
Speaker 1: We're destigmatizing going to the doctor and poopy butt because
Speaker 1: it happens to everyone. Actually, here's breaking news. What comes
Speaker 1: out of your asshole is poop. It's it's a ruler
Speaker 1: culture number thirty breaking what comes out of your asshole?
Speaker 1: No ask going to say. Sometimes it doesn't even have
Speaker 1: happened at the doctor. Sometimes you're having sex and you
Speaker 1: really that later you you it can happen. I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know. I mean, like this this is
Speaker 1: something that you just especially having gay sex. If there's
Speaker 1: if that happens a little bit, like no one cares.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, if you do care, you actually
Speaker 1: suck because because I don't know what gay porn fantasy
Speaker 1: you're living where like no ship happens, ever, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you do your best to clean yourself out, and like
Speaker 1: any type of sex, you do your best to like
Speaker 1: make sure it's like a sanitary area and then give
Speaker 1: it to get up to God, who's watching? Who's watching? Okay, Molly,
Speaker 1: did you have any thoughts on this? Why? It's like why,
Speaker 1: like why are we still embarrassed of that? Like that
Speaker 1: and periods? It's like that, yes, or how we have
Speaker 1: children the ship is how we gash it out like
Speaker 1: what it like? Oh no, oh good god, doctor, And
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Though it's like
Speaker 1: I just just knowing that, like it's no doctor cares
Speaker 1: by a little bit of piss on their fingers because
Speaker 1: it's sort of because of what happened in the cup.
Speaker 1: They're not. I guarantee they don't. Even it goes in
Speaker 1: one year out the other, I want to say. Ever,
Speaker 1: had a little quiver to his voice after after the exam,
Speaker 1: and I thought he's embarrassed for me. He's embarrassed for me? No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. When did you go like sorry
Speaker 1: about that trip? Or did you not talk about it?
Speaker 1: He did not talk about it. I'm not talking and
Speaker 1: he's gonna forget about it. Yes he is. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: bring the energy back in with you when you go
Speaker 1: see him next, like, hey, I want to talk about
Speaker 1: my last anal examination. I think he might have dealt
Speaker 1: with some hoop. They'll be like, yeah, you fucking idiot.
Speaker 1: So you think the next time Bowen's at the desk
Speaker 1: on we get update, be like, oh yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the guy with a shitty ass's ship. Last patient patient.
Speaker 1: By the way, he was like, it's a fisher. I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, well, oh well that's okay. Fishers happened.
Speaker 1: They really happened. They really happen. It's just like just
Speaker 1: let it heal, just like take it easy and like
Speaker 1: I can do well. First of all, congratulations, I'm getting
Speaker 1: fucked lately. What the hell you didn't tell me this? No,
Speaker 1: it's no, it's not worth getting into well a right, fine,
Speaker 1: bitch's I'm being Molly right now. I don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about it, and you have to respect that bitch.
Speaker 1: I think she's a bit too well. I think it's
Speaker 1: time for to turn to our guests. Molly will have
Speaker 1: you go first. If that's okay, Wow, this is going
Speaker 1: to be a moment in time. Yes, I know you have.
Speaker 1: I know you've been thinking of one. I'm nervous, so
Speaker 1: I'm going with them. That's kind of a little like
Speaker 1: not great, but we're going. We're going with no no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, don't read it, just no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. This is Molly Gordon's. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Her time starts now. I don't think so honey. My Calvin's, Oh,
Speaker 1: the commercials are always. I sit in my Calvin's. I
Speaker 1: live in my Calvin's. I lounge in my Calvin's. I
Speaker 1: work out in my Calvin's. Bitch, I cannot fit in
Speaker 1: my cow then a little hanging breast and a big gass.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what sucking size I am. I
Speaker 1: wear small, it's too small. I wear a large. I'm
Speaker 1: wearing a medium. I picked one up and my breast
Speaker 1: balls out. I can't my Calvins. I can think. The
Speaker 1: commercials were all women of all different sizes. They are lies.
Speaker 1: They are gluing the fabric to the woman's bodies. I
Speaker 1: cannot wear them. I can't wear a bar let. I
Speaker 1: can wear a little little piece of underwear so mean
Speaker 1: and it makes me feel bad about myself. I would
Speaker 1: only do a couple of things in your in your Calvins,
Speaker 1: which is just sit and do nothing. I think they're
Speaker 1: being completely off and it really aren't feelings, and I
Speaker 1: think they really need um. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: My Calvins, and that's one minute in this country is
Speaker 1: all off. And can I say something I almost did?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. When things quote unquote run small,
Speaker 1: what the fund does that mean? So? How big does
Speaker 1: the thing? I have to order them? Because I have
Speaker 1: people being like it runs small, and I'm like, well
Speaker 1: I I ordinarily just don't. Yeah, if it's a if
Speaker 1: I need to order a large, you need to let
Speaker 1: me know now, because sometimes I have to order a small.
Speaker 1: So it's just like what the hell. Also, they have
Speaker 1: a whole thing about we fit everyone well, you can
Speaker 1: do anything. In your Calvin's. It's always like Kendall Jenner
Speaker 1: and a normal woman like running and it's like I
Speaker 1: can't do anything. But I go to moving tails and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm actually shaking. I'm so embarrassed. What they
Speaker 1: have a whole thing about is lies. Lies. That's what
Speaker 1: they have a whole thing about. They can lie in
Speaker 1: their Calvins. Well, it's confusing because like my friend Anthony
Speaker 1: Ramos just is now like the new Calvin Klein. You know,
Speaker 1: he looks amazing. I support him, I support the brand.
Speaker 1: I just have a problem with the hashtag my Calvins.
Speaker 1: You can do anything, yourn. That's what I have a problem. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing is, it's like also like you buy
Speaker 1: the underwear and it's like, I'm not Anthony ra Mo semi,
Speaker 1: but I like I like my Calvin's. I love too,
Speaker 1: like I do like my Calvin's. But but can you
Speaker 1: do anything in them? No? I don't think you could
Speaker 1: teach teach children. You can't teach you have a penal
Speaker 1: fissure in your Calvins. I'm not so sure like you
Speaker 1: do in your but I think it's more of the
Speaker 1: braw let. But Rachel can speak on that are problematic. No,
Speaker 1: you need to have I just think it's like, don't
Speaker 1: try to there's a day braw lett. There's a lie
Speaker 1: down braw let. But it's you're you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: It's like you're anything. You're talking about sports bra that's anything,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, got it is. There
Speaker 1: is there a brand that we do like. I like
Speaker 1: cut bras, which are always kind of talked about on Instagram.
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying them. Beany belt Pin and I both
Speaker 1: have a very large, low hanging breast. And there's a
Speaker 1: woman um on the east side, the Upper east Side.
Speaker 1: It's called Linda the braw Lady in New York and
Speaker 1: they fit you personally there and they're very ugly bras,
Speaker 1: but boy do you get support? And I what is
Speaker 1: an ugly pretty bra? I don't. I don't know one's
Speaker 1: clocking it. I'm not me at least, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't care what the bra looks like. Well, Bowen, you're homosexual.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, I think I think like you mean,
Speaker 1: like a very like it's like utilitarian the bra to
Speaker 1: support you versus I just as I was showing you
Speaker 1: and Geraldine I faced him earlier today, my Savage fan.
Speaker 1: That's for sex yet, see it? Yeah? Geral Vena staying
Speaker 1: with me right now and she has been wearing Savage
Speaker 1: fenty and she looks unbelievable that I love. So it's late.
Speaker 1: That's stunning right now? What is it? Just talented actress
Speaker 1: central over there? I was gonna say the cool l
Speaker 1: a girls just on face time. Okay. I want to
Speaker 1: be a part of that respect the circle. That's I
Speaker 1: love that. I was just thinking about her today. I
Speaker 1: was like that Geraldine fucking talent. She's wrapped on him.
Speaker 1: We have to get her on because I watched Blockers
Speaker 1: the other day for like the eighth time, and I'm
Speaker 1: like Jesus Christ. And also another thing I watched that
Speaker 1: she was also really good and it was Bad Education.
Speaker 1: Have you guys seen Bad Education? Oh my god, bowen.
Speaker 1: It's with Hugh Jackman and Alison Janney. It's about a
Speaker 1: high school and um a Long Island, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: this is the high school that Amanda Chackman went to,
Speaker 1: Rosslyn High School. It's about like a scandal about like
Speaker 1: mismanaging money there. It's in saying how where where it goes?
Speaker 1: And Geraldine is in it. She plays a student who
Speaker 1: like cracks the case. It's unbelievable, but yeah, that's someone
Speaker 1: who can act, who can who can who can sort
Speaker 1: of dial the whisper or the or the loudness the
Speaker 1: volume talent and like the normal wonderful, amazing person. Wait
Speaker 1: and also speaking of talent, U is beans shooting Monica
Speaker 1: Lewinsky right now? Yeah, Wow, oh my god, I've been
Speaker 1: waiting for that forever. Yeah, that's gonna be good. Look
Speaker 1: at her, she's smirking and shaking her head and being like,
Speaker 1: you don't even know how good it's gonna be. She
Speaker 1: is smirking, and now she's laughing. Her shoulders are shaking
Speaker 1: a little bit, sill were. I love that we had
Speaker 1: this broad dist course. I'm learning, okay, learning every day, alright,
Speaker 1: So now it's going to be the time when we
Speaker 1: turned to Rachel Senate and here's the thing she has done.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. I believe several times, and
Speaker 1: one of them was a point of despair. But this
Speaker 1: is the return to the form. This is the return
Speaker 1: to the form. I'm ready, okay, you time, you time,
Speaker 1: or this time? Okay? Is this Rachel's I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Me
Speaker 1: not being able to poop at my boyfriend's house not
Speaker 1: do it. It has been six months. I love him,
Speaker 1: he loves me, he gives me my space. I can
Speaker 1: not do it. I don't think every time I can't poop,
Speaker 1: I can't poop the next day, and then I can't
Speaker 1: put the next day. Once I can't poop, you can't poop,
Speaker 1: and it sucks up your whole schedule. I literally have
Speaker 1: gone down spirals of different food things. I've tried pills,
Speaker 1: Molly gave me a pill. Nothing. It is a mental thing.
Speaker 1: His bathroom isn't even near his room. He offers to
Speaker 1: go on walks. It doesn't matter. I cannot. I don't
Speaker 1: know why. Sometimes people say it's okay if you pop
Speaker 1: right now, I'm gonna watch the show. I can't do it.
Speaker 1: It sucks up everything. Once you can't pop, you can't think.
Speaker 1: Your day is ruined. I it mentally bucks with you.
Speaker 1: It's very I don't think so, honey, me not being
Speaker 1: able to put with my boyfriend's house. Honestly, that's one
Speaker 1: minute and that's real and it's raw, and it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's actually interesting. Like I have that disease where
Speaker 1: it's like when I'm in a relationship, like I'm like
Speaker 1: one of those sick crazy like what do you mean
Speaker 1: I don't poop? People like I just I am like
Speaker 1: that still, So I hope no one that wants to
Speaker 1: listen to this podcast. Um, but I have to tell you,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna go away. I no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never been able to be like
Speaker 1: fecal around men i'm having sex with. I just can't
Speaker 1: be fecal. I think, I think maybe maybe way around
Speaker 1: this is like bringing a hypnotist into the home, into
Speaker 1: into the bathroom, into the bath well literally just like
Speaker 1: doing earlier, just outside, so that it's just like you
Speaker 1: can do. I'm not saying, all, well, this is the
Speaker 1: thing is I've tried to bridge the boundary of talking
Speaker 1: about it in the past. I've made the mistake of
Speaker 1: hiding the problem. But then we went on on like
Speaker 1: a trip to a cabin and there was like a
Speaker 1: thing where we were like ordering food, and then I
Speaker 1: had to freak out and I was like, if I
Speaker 1: can't poop, my whole thing is like ruined and okay,
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to like figure out out. And so
Speaker 1: then he would go on walks because I was like,
Speaker 1: it's one thing if I go stay over yours and
Speaker 1: then I go home the next day, and then I
Speaker 1: find his time to poop. I'm looking for three days
Speaker 1: in the cabin three days of not shooting. It's like
Speaker 1: backing up. Also, I'm wearing a bathing suit and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to have sex, so it was really hard. Molly
Speaker 1: gave me a pill and it worked a little. But
Speaker 1: what how sometimes is I have a little poop? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: And that's but which which is so cruel because you're like,
Speaker 1: I know there's more in there, yea. And that's when
Speaker 1: you're like, I know that, I know this is not
Speaker 1: the real truth of my ages. So it's literally okay
Speaker 1: to quot bones character tip of the iceberg. It is.
Speaker 1: It literally is you're like, it's all worse because you're like,
Speaker 1: I know how much I'm capable of and this is
Speaker 1: not that. Yeah. It's also the thing is is that
Speaker 1: when you have to ship, you have to go right then. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you're dating someone, you're like, oh, I'll go in
Speaker 1: an hour, and that's your first new think whatever the
Speaker 1: funk you're doing, you're leaving in that moment, yeah you
Speaker 1: know you know what though, I think this is because
Speaker 1: as gay men we have to be extra thoughtful about that.
Speaker 1: Like I usually like you have to consciously take care
Speaker 1: of it, you really like beforehand, like really clear, clear
Speaker 1: it from your mind by just like really going for
Speaker 1: it before you leave the house. Now, So you were
Speaker 1: saying that the cabin trip broke the seal on the
Speaker 1: on the conversation, Well, because I had basically a breakdown, kid,
Speaker 1: stop having break up rust the way I'm feeling, I
Speaker 1: call it a break down, But it was because it
Speaker 1: was like I was, I was like, I was just
Speaker 1: I felt like uncomfortable in my body, like because he
Speaker 1: does suck you up and then you can't tell if
Speaker 1: you're hungry you're not because and it just like throw
Speaker 1: and then you're thinking about it. Once you start thinking
Speaker 1: about it, it's over. You're not going for a week.
Speaker 1: So then we so then we started having the conversation,
Speaker 1: and so then he would go on walks while I
Speaker 1: was playing to poop. It's like it's like and that's
Speaker 1: actually never gonna work because then you think like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is my time to shoot. Whenever you start overthinking something,
Speaker 1: it's like when you're having Like it's like when you're
Speaker 1: dating someone and the sex starts to get bad and
Speaker 1: then you have a conversation about it. It's never gonna
Speaker 1: be sexy again, Like it's going to be real work
Speaker 1: for it to get the layer. There's a new layer
Speaker 1: on it of like awareness or something or acknowledgement. Rachel,
Speaker 1: do you remember you remember times when he's gone to
Speaker 1: poop and what you were doing. I don't think I've
Speaker 1: literally ever noticed. I think ignorance is bliss there. I
Speaker 1: think quick pooper. Would it help if you watched him
Speaker 1: poop one time, like in person? Yes, you wouldn't like that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: actually maybe I don't know. Well, I do you think
Speaker 1: that we could do that? I think Bowen is onto
Speaker 1: something kind of miraculous. Yes, I think that would be
Speaker 1: Really you should be in the room with him, just
Speaker 1: for a little bit, just for a little bit. You're
Speaker 1: forgetting about the smell factor of it. You don't know.
Speaker 1: You do not want to hear the sound of ship
Speaker 1: leaving your boyfriend's bowels. You don't want to hear it,
Speaker 1: you think, and even entertaining, because it's disgusting. It's one
Speaker 1: of the most offensive sounds famously. Alright, almost feel like
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just really like in love with him, actually,
Speaker 1: like he poops for clean, like this is what I feel.
Speaker 1: I think even first, and I'm talking about a walk by.
Speaker 1: We don't know we don't have to walk into you.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you're shipping. I'm cloking it. I've cloked it.
Speaker 1: It's metabolizing in my body and I'm walking home. No,
Speaker 1: there should be nothing intentional when and when it comes
Speaker 1: to you in relation to other people's no. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: But this is, this is what I hope happens, is
Speaker 1: that Rachel is in the room with Logan while he
Speaker 1: poops and then hold on, hold on, let me finish.
Speaker 1: And then it's like and then hopefully Rachel thinks, well,
Speaker 1: I can return, I can, I can just sort of
Speaker 1: beset us in some equivalent. It's not it's not pressure
Speaker 1: for her to poop, it's that she feels comfortable enough
Speaker 1: to like provide in some way by like meeting her boyfriend,
Speaker 1: meeting Logan where he's at, by also being like, well,
Speaker 1: now I can I can sort of let the valve loose. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like knowing it's almost like confronting the demon head on.
Speaker 1: We've seen each other p before. Well, that's just like
Speaker 1: it's totally different. One time he had to help me
Speaker 1: take a shower after I was injured, so I were
Speaker 1: um and Molly was there for that too, not the
Speaker 1: not the shower, but the right But so I feel
Speaker 1: like we could cross that. Yeah, I think it's on.
Speaker 1: You're you're on your way there. You're you're sort of
Speaker 1: chiseling towards it. You're right, you are, you're chiseling towards it.
Speaker 1: And part of getting into a more serious relationship is
Speaker 1: you start to see some gross ship like and that
Speaker 1: is that is really a makeup break. Like I remember,
Speaker 1: like when I moved in with my first boyfriend, like
Speaker 1: we started to see some gross ship here and there,
Speaker 1: like and then one time I had, like long story short,
Speaker 1: he had to look up close at my butt hole
Speaker 1: one time, and I was like, this is insane, Like
Speaker 1: this what a relationship is? Just like watching each watching
Speaker 1: each other like get truly disgusting, Like I couldn't really
Speaker 1: you think that romance is beautiful and then you realize
Speaker 1: it's disgusting. And sex is so disgusting. Sex is so
Speaker 1: gross and it's insane. Now we do it, but we
Speaker 1: do it is the most disgusting thing that you could
Speaker 1: ever think of. And think about the way you act
Speaker 1: during it an animal and like something like sometimes you're
Speaker 1: just like the sounds, the smells, the feelings, it's just
Speaker 1: it's so disgusting and it's so weird that we do it,
Speaker 1: but we love it and we're not going to stop.
Speaker 1: I'm certainly so horny right now. From after my procedure,
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to do anything, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I want to get filthy, Like it's
Speaker 1: it's like so bad. I feel like sex is all
Speaker 1: about spension of disbelief, yes, because you really just have
Speaker 1: to especially if you're doing like prop sex or like
Speaker 1: active sex, which I love, you really have to like
Speaker 1: and you, honestly you and your you have to be
Speaker 1: giving with each other because someone's going to say a
Speaker 1: line that's not good. And I use the problem if
Speaker 1: I was having sex with us with someone in in
Speaker 1: like in a setup and they did it wrong, I
Speaker 1: would be like cut, we're about to start, like do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like you know, you come
Speaker 1: in and you say this, and then it's like that's stressful.
Speaker 1: I've never done full on role play. I've definitely done
Speaker 1: like we wear some cool some interesting things, but like
Speaker 1: I've never done full on role play like wearing what
Speaker 1: I don't know, just like you know, you spiced it
Speaker 1: up with like jock straps or whatever, like like a
Speaker 1: hat or something, and I like, costume your hat. No, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know after Halloween if you got fun Like
Speaker 1: I remember one time, I don't know if we had
Speaker 1: sexist night, but me and my ex were dressed up
Speaker 1: as Malfoy and Harry Potter. Oh my god. And I
Speaker 1: think there was like at least some hand jobs happening afterwards.
Speaker 1: But anyway, and then last two halloweens ago I was
Speaker 1: I was a nerd and my boyfriend was a baseball player.
Speaker 1: That's like we got into a fight that night. Actually,
Speaker 1: Molly's like, I save my acting for the silver screen.
Speaker 1: You know what. We all have our places where we play.
Speaker 1: I'm just quiet, but we don't know. We don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not sharing those either. We all have our whisper acting.
Speaker 1: We all placed it in yes, yes, yeah, do you
Speaker 1: do you are going? Do you do it? Like you cards?
Speaker 1: When you're sex, it is sort of like cue cards,
Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, tell me where to go. Like
Speaker 1: in the moment, I'm like tell me, I know this is,
Speaker 1: this is I've said this too many times during sex
Speaker 1: in recent memory. I'll go, how do you want me? No? Like,
Speaker 1: how do you want is not a top? How do
Speaker 1: you want me? Anyway? I actually really hot? Actually you
Speaker 1: should try it. No, no, no, no, don't let it
Speaker 1: ruin any Do they have any fancy stuff for boys?
Speaker 1: Did they have what fancy stuff for boys? I guess
Speaker 1: Hans just immediately said yes. Wife, it's the way that
Speaker 1: Hans immediately. I asked the question and Hans immediately said yes,
Speaker 1: like as if he had like a whole Yeah, the
Speaker 1: timing was a little suspicious. That's that's great. I have
Speaker 1: smoking jacket pep for asked to ask that question because
Speaker 1: Rachel does have a paid partnership with them, so you do.
Speaker 1: I believe that that would be a goal, a personal goal,
Speaker 1: but I'm not there yet. Love that. I think that's
Speaker 1: a personal goal for us all, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: put that out into the atmosphere. Um And something that
Speaker 1: we're also putting out into the atmosphere is this fucking
Speaker 1: incredible episode. Oh my gosh, this is this. This, this
Speaker 1: is top shelf app This is top Shelf up with
Speaker 1: top shelf talent and top Shelf guests. You guys, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming and doing this. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for having us yeah, I know you guys
Speaker 1: are It's really, it's really it's now I feel like
Speaker 1: we just put you guys to bed, like you guys
Speaker 1: have at least you started sort of sitting up right,
Speaker 1: and now you're both like lounging and feeling it. We
Speaker 1: both had a glass of wine. We had a comba.
Speaker 1: We're lying down. What wine did you both drink? So
Speaker 1: that the readers can know about your lifestyle and cloticusan
Speaker 1: stair or Pino Griggio from Molly what is it? We're
Speaker 1: going with Pino Griggio. We're going to Rachel Fields mixed
Speaker 1: on her right. Mine was a shorten a. It was
Speaker 1: called butter. Yeah, I was gonna say buttery. It was
Speaker 1: very like it was really yellow in a way where
Speaker 1: I was kind of almost like it was like very
Speaker 1: bright where it almost felt I don't know. I got
Speaker 1: it from a word like drug store, and I was
Speaker 1: like it was pissed, right. I was pretty it was
Speaker 1: because it looks like but I drank it. Well, it's sterile,
Speaker 1: you'll love it. You'll love it. It's kind of electrolytes. Well,
Speaker 1: this is another rep of lost culturistas. And they were
Speaker 1: going to say, like if you haven't watched The Baby
Speaker 1: and select theaters or on demand, you absolutely must. I
Speaker 1: saw I I googled it, and so it is. It
Speaker 1: is out there in theaters. If you want to go brave,
Speaker 1: brave the storm that is COVID still, you can go
Speaker 1: to see it or watch from the comfort and safety
Speaker 1: of your own, hopefully COVID free home. But we never
Speaker 1: can know any final words from the ladies. Do you
Speaker 1: have any better words? So I'm just so lucky to
Speaker 1: be in the presence of you both. Thank you for
Speaker 1: having lovely and I am going to watch my boyfriend poop.
Speaker 1: I will I think drib the quick what Molly said
Speaker 1: the now and so? Does that remind us of a
Speaker 1: song to sort of get us out bowen? What do
Speaker 1: you think? Um? Yeah, it seems like you give a
Speaker 1: song ready to go? Yeah, what's that song? Um? Where
Speaker 1: it's like you stick it in the middle, then you
Speaker 1: stick it all It's like a party song. It's like
Speaker 1: a block party song. It's like, um, and then you
Speaker 1: shake it all about you do the hooky. I guess
Speaker 1: it's called you know, you know, you know this. It's
Speaker 1: where it's like you stick your hand in and it's
Speaker 1: like a three count and then you stick right hand
Speaker 1: in you're run hand. I don't a lot of put
Speaker 1: your right hand in, right hand right. Holy shit. The
Speaker 1: what the singer has to constantly sort of go, you
Speaker 1: do the hokey pokey and just you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like it's good the singer, the singer, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: never bye bye