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Speaker 2: I think he's talking to everybody because I think the

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Speaker 1: We already know he gonna show up. Now. I think

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Speaker 2: Up time out, time out.

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Speaker 3: No, he didn't call it new offensive coordinator and not

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Speaker 1: Is up for contract extensions. He's not calling just let

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Speaker 2: You are not going to be the new offer of

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Speaker 1: Damn foot. He not talking to Lamar.

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Speaker 2: He talking about even talking to everybody.

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe, what do you think about that? Joe? So

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Speaker 4: You're saying. You're saying this to You're saying this the

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Speaker 4: you do is that you talk. You know who he's

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Speaker 1: You go indirectly.

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Speaker 2: You're not for You're not going to get no new

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Speaker 2: job and to get out here talking trash like that,

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Speaker 2: Put a name on it. Because what's gonna happen is

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Speaker 2: And this all this new coordinator that's coming in trying

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Speaker 1: What? What? President is he trying to say? He said,

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Speaker 2: I could have been I could have been one too,

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you won't show up just to show you.

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Speaker 2: You don't call, you don't call. That is dumb. It's stupid.

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Speaker 2: If you want Lamar to show up, you text Lamar.

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Speaker 1: Who is it gonna piss off? I'll I remember, tell

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Speaker 2: So you go out publicly and you get a new job,

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Speaker 1: That's gonna work out? Real fucking well. Okay, come on,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out. Hold On, I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's real, that's real.

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Speaker 2: Smart, good job, good job, offers the coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Let's called out the franchise quarterback to that's your question.

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Speaker 1: You think Sam Donald participated in OTA last year? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying? He didn't sing a lot

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Speaker 2: You said he's talking to Lamar Jackson, the person that

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Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa. I tell you what, He's gonna be

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Speaker 1: Then what, o Joe, we had this conversation working hard

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Speaker 1: come on, what is it that you don't understand, Oh Joe,

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Speaker 1: you don't call out your fucking appranctice calling back talking

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Speaker 1: Don't do it.

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Speaker 1: You go hold on, hold on. You know that the

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Speaker 1: Belichick called Librady? Did Bellichick call Librady? You talk about it?

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Speaker 3: They won six super Bowls and there the five super

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Speaker 1: How you set the tone? Now you said, thank you,

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Speaker 1: But what trap? They won four five super bowls? They haven't.

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Speaker 1: You said, Is that that's how you set the tone?

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Speaker 1: Coach Belichick was sitting a tone, But now you don't

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Speaker 2: What tone are you sending?

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Speaker 1: Pissed off? Why are you pissing him off? He just asked,

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Speaker 1: if you want to win, you got standards, You got

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Speaker 2: You could text me that. If you're talking to him,

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna let Joe, not great. You're not gonna

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Speaker 4: Hey, Look, anytime you have something, volunteer and you show up. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know what, I hope for the coach's sake,

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Speaker 2: I hope they end up in would have goddamn super

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Speaker 1: Instead of just texting him, I would like you to

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Speaker 4: Hey, hey, trying to develop that chemistry and connuity.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, but I mean I was. I was always

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, dang oh, y'all, man, you got all set

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Speaker 2: God, dang man, you got any coaches coming here talking

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Speaker 1: He's trying to show off, trying to show off. Your

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Speaker 2: Man, all that, man, all that's udden necessary? Man, text me,

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Speaker 1: You're about to lose your voice for what?

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, come on, uncle, look at that. That's hold on,

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Speaker 2: Like I mean, it's just unnecessary.

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Speaker 2: You're coming in. I understand, you want to set the tone.

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Speaker 2: You you want to you want to establish yourself as

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Speaker 2: you said publicly. You know that conversation is something that's

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Speaker 1: Years, I mean, why are you even calling me out?

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's like, I mean, I just think it's green. No,

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Speaker 2: no disrespect the coach man.

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Speaker 1: Like now, you'll, man, you talk about you. I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I'm not really talking to him. I'm just reverencing his

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Speaker 1: That's all.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I apologize, Chadam, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Got me. Hey, you got me worked up? Joe, Joe,

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Speaker 1: I don't never get I don't never get like this.

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Speaker 1: Joe got my mad blood pressure up. Hide everything.

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Speaker 2: I'm sweating, man, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Hey, remember the

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Speaker 2: lad the last time men, uncle would like this Joe.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about boots and boots. And remember we

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Speaker 1: Boy, Joe bootsing uh, Terence Crawford talk about you you got.

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Speaker 1: He was telling me, you got to pick one of

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Speaker 2: O Joe, Hey Joe boy. We were going at it.

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Speaker 1: Boy, Look, that was a long it was a long

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Speaker 1: But once I see what I know, would get Okay,

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Speaker 1: I just think that I just think the thing is

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Speaker 1: He's the guy that everybody's looking to, and when he's there,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be all right, Hey, Joe. It was.

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Speaker 2: When Lamar Jackson won those two m v ps. He

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Speaker 1: Well, the first one he was. He was, he was there.

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Speaker 1: He ain't he up? Is he up? Is he up for? Yes? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Ain't nobody no being up? He's he's getting his contract

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Speaker 2: done this all season. They redoing it for sure, everybody

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Speaker 1: You got you gotta lower that cap number, and you

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Speaker 2: But I think when hey, Joe, you heard that, you

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Speaker 2: heard what I just said, he's the best player. He outperformed.

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Speaker 2: Lest you know what he all performance contract. You know,

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Speaker 1: And guess what he wasn't in off in the off season.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't in the super Bowl either Hey, I'm just

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Speaker 1: know you can say, well he did this, he did that.

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl matter. Lamar Jackson gets a super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's a rap. That monkey, that monkey off his back.

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Speaker 2: He can he can play the rest of his career

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Speaker 1: He gets to the super Bowl, he might win another

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Speaker 1: two m vps. Yeah, because now because there is because

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Speaker 1: he wanted Oh man, you ever wanted something so bad? Joe,

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Speaker 1: you want that bag? Oh Joe, you know you want

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Speaker 1: this thing so bad? Yeah, and you're so close. And

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Speaker 1: this opportunity again? He just needs one, he gets one.

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Speaker 1: What how you what? What you're gonna say? My home

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson on the biggest stage we've all, for the

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Speaker 1: We've seen our best on that biggest stage. Now, they

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Speaker 1: Vandros said, if only for one night, for one night,

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Speaker 1: I might have to go see him in Atlanta. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's special. He's special.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't see him in that big game too. Walking Oo,

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Speaker 1: Let me think about it, Oh, Joe, we don have

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Speaker 1: I'll say, hey, whatever happens. After that, he was phenomenal

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Speaker 1: But I just need to see him one time in

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Speaker 1: I say, man, you got there? They go his way?

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Speaker 1: But oh well, damn man, man, I want to see

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Speaker 1: damn call. You don't know what.

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Joe, I'm i' gonna be honest with you.

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00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 2: It's a good chance the Cowboys can be there. Boy.

434
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: You know how if you play Mad.

435
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, I'm gonna tell you if you're Madden,

436
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I ain't saying nothing about your Bengals. I

437
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,959
Speaker 1: ain't even got on you. You see how you are?

438
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: Oh no, don't get on us. Why you're gonna get

439
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 1: on ours.

440
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if you want to see the Cowboys

441
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: in them, you know, in the super Bowl, I mean,

442
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 2: just play Madden there.

443
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 4: You you see what I'm saying. Okay, okay, no disrespect, yeah,

444
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 4: all disrespect.

445
00:24:52,920 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's Declar, declar Deakland. What you talking about?

446
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: Doyle decland decland Doyle decland Doyle. So I guess when

447
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: is when is the march? What It's got to be

448
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: free agency. So it's got to be one of the April.

449
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: The first one mini camp is Ota is in April,

450
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: because you know what the new system, you get three.

451
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 2: Get three three three three minicamps.

452
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay with what did you say? Ask? Do

453
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: we know when it is.

454
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 2: Where the off season program start in April or is

455
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 2: it March?

456
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: Yeah? Mm hmmm mm hmm yeah, Hey win in draft

457
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: in May, last week in April. What is the ash

458
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: last week in April?

459
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,479
Speaker 2: Where the draft at this year?

460
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh? So m hmm. But you did you have a

461
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: workout bonus incentive workout bonus in your contract? Oh? Yo? Yeah?

462
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: Well what was that? So what you had to do?

463
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: O joe workout? Yeah?

464
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: Thirteen weeks. I mean I would making all of anyway.

465
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: I mean you know, honestly, if I didn't have that incentive,

466
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 2: I still would have been. I would have been there

467
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: any way to work out with Carson.

468
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: You know why I didn't come because they know I

469
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: like to work out. See if they know you like

470
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: to do something with Yo, guess what they don't incentivize

471
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: it people that they don't like to work out. They

472
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: put one hundred thousand, quarter of a million, five hundred

473
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: thousand in their contract. They wanted to give me fifty

474
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: dollars a day. Good. Oh it was it was a

475
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: nice It was a nice. Yeah. I had teammates, they

476
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: had one hundred and fifty two hundred and fifty five

477
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: hundred thousand. But Joe, yeah, five man. We can't give

478
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: him that. He loved the workout, so we just give

479
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: way money. Right. That was fun, but you know, Mike,

480
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: and Mike told him. Mike says, I don't want I

481
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: don't want Shannon here. Shannon cannot get in shape eighty

482
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: four cannot get in shape doing our thing like he

483
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: can get in shape doing his own. But I don't

484
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: trust y'all like I trust him. Right, So I was, hey,

485
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,239
Speaker 1: I was out of there. Hey, y'all, let me know what. Hey,

486
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: when the camps, I come to that camp. You know,

487
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: we had a three day camp and then we had

488
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: you know, you have a three day camp many camp,

489
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: oh your then you have a week mini camp. So

490
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: you come in, you get what uh, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

491
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: you up out of their Saturday afternoon or whenever you leave,

492
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: and then you have that week. You come in on

493
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: a Monday, and you know, if everything go good, they'll

494
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: let you off Thursday at noon. Yeah, boom. The Dolphins

495
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: have released Tyreek Hill today. Hill turns thirty second thirty

496
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: two on March first, and was set to carry a

497
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: fifty one point one million dollar cap hit in twenty

498
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: twenty six, which I've given him the highest cap number

499
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: a moonthst non quarterbacks coming into the season. The decision

500
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: leaves Miami twenty eight point two million dollars in dead money,

501
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: but also creates almost twenty three million in cap space

502
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: by releasing Hill. Now, Oh Joe, which team is the

503
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: best landing spot for Tyreek? The Chiefs, the Bills, or

504
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: the Chargers.

505
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: I think Tyreek's next move has to be his best move, obviously,

506
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: coming off an injury, going to a team where he's

507
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: going to be utilized in the correct way. I think

508
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: the Bills would be a nice place for him obviously.

509
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: I mean you have Sekurur who was who was somewhat

510
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: in that same position and being in the slot, but

511
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: Tyreek being able to play on the outside. I like

512
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. The Chiefs also being able to use him,

513
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: you know, the correct way, and it all it all

514
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: comes down to how healthy is he going to be

515
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: when he's recovered. You know, even even once he goes

516
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: through rehab, even a Tyreek hill that's not as fast

517
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: as he once was, it's probably still fast and everybody else.

518
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: I think that's all what it's going to come down to.

519
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: I think the Dolphins might have moved on a little

520
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: too fast, honestly, just just in my own personal opinion,

521
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: they could have restructured and found a way to get

522
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: that to get that that salary a little bit lower

523
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: with him coming off the injury. But to let a

524
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: player of his magnitude go, which is a staple of

525
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: your offense, obviously having a chan having having God, having

526
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: water as well, I don't think they should have let

527
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: him go. But that that's just my personal opinion. Obviously

528
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: being thirty two and coming off injury, you know how, you.

529
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: Know how this serious injury. Injury? Yeah that is, but

530
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: we see no acl he tore a lot of ligaments

531
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: and he broke his tibia.

532
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand. But rehab, the resources, the access to

533
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: some of the some of the methods he has to

534
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: get himself back to where he once was. I think

535
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: that the chances of him coming back and being the

536
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: Tyregavold is possible, and even if he's not the same Tyregvold,

537
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: it will still be better than hit damn near ninety

538
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: eight percent of the receivers in the NFL.

539
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: If he's used correctly well, the running was on the roll.

540
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm surprised didn't move on the off season after what

541
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: had transpired the last game. Ojo, we talked about this

542
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: the one thing you can't do as a player. Players

543
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: will forgive a lot, but you can't leave him not

544
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: to dry. You can't quit him when things are going

545
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: When things are going bad, that's when your best players.

546
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: That's when I need Ocho to show up and be

547
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: his best. I understand, Ojo, we're not going to the playoffs.

548
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: I understand, Ojo, you're not gonna get your customary ninety

549
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: catches thirteen hundred yards. But don't quit on me. Don't

550
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: don't be a guy that when things are going good,

551
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: they go great, and when they go bad, they go

552
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: terribly horribly wrong. Yes, and so I thought they would

553
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: move on in the off season because I knew he

554
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: would never have the same trust in that locker room

555
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: that he once had.

556
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: Can I can I say something? I can tell you

557
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: why they didn't move on. They didn't move on because

558
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: they understood his value. They understood his true value despite

559
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: him giving up, despite him quitting in that uh in

560
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: that that, that's that previous season. We can't let someone

561
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: like this go. Look at the numbers he's put up.

562
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: Look what he does for us offensively. He makes everyone

563
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: else job around him that much easier because we have

564
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: to everyone has to focus on him in game, so

565
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: it opens up everything else. So of course they were

566
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: gonna let him go. But now that he's injured, now

567
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: that he's hurt, and it's kind of up in the air,

568
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: you don't know what you're gonna get once he's back healthy.

569
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: You know what, Now we can let him go, but

570
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: you never find another one the mask your question, You'll

571
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: never find another player like that.

572
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: Do they make the playoffs with him? They can the

573
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: playoffs without it.

574
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: I mean we could say that about a lot of players.

575
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: Fifty one million dollars and I told you that, said Ojo.

576
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: Now you know you wouldn't get fifty one. You would

577
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: restructure that though, on you would restructure that.

578
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: I would have moved on Ojo because he's not gonna

579
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: be the same guy in the locker room they're not

580
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: gonna believe in him. The coaching staff don't believe in him.

581
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: There's a reason they didn't give him the sea again.

582
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: There's a reason, Ojo. You know that that you've got

583
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: to do something really, really bad, something really egregious for

584
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: you to be a captain. One year him being the

585
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: player that he is, and then all of a sudden

586
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 1: he's not. He's not the captain because nobody's go like, bro,

587
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: how you the captain? You quit? Of all people? If

588
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: I give oo Toki, I'll get if damn near my

589
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: leg broke a man? Hey, doc, what you think it's broke? Ojo?

590
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: Can you tape it up? Can I still go? Can I? Can? I?

591
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: Can I run a stock? You're gonna do everything you

592
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: possibly can because you understand the importance of that sea.

593
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: You understand the importance of that leadership, and the guys

594
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: look to you. Once that transpired. I said, it's never

595
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: gonna be the same.

596
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: You know that.

597
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: I know that. Everybody knows that. Now people try to

598
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: make it all you old school, I'm telling you, and

599
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: the quitting is the worst thing that you can do

600
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: to as a in a team game, because if you

601
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: by yourself you're a golf or a tennis player, who

602
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 1: can if you quit, you withdraw, you withdraw you. Oh

603
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: you got an injury and you can't continue. Okay, Hey, no,

604
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: who's that? Who's that? With that? Somebody had a Oh

605
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: Djokovic was playing somebody in the semi finals and the

606
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: guy he was up two cents to love and he

607
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: had to withdraw because he had an injury. Okay, he

608
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: couldn't continue. But as a team. And the thing was Ojo,

609
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: he was healthy and one of the guys, and and

610
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: it got out that uh uh, Waddell asked him, A Reek,

611
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: you done? You can't. The problem is, ohoe, what you

612
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: have if you reached structure at what number? Because he's

613
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: gonna deem it disce First of all, he's gonna deem

614
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: it disrespectful that your cutting is paid based on what

615
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: he's done. So now what is the number that you

616
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: and the team that's coming right is looking to be here,

617
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: Tyreek looking to be here? Can we find somewhere in

618
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: the middle?

619
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean obviously at some point, I'm

620
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: not sure when it's gonna be. You're gonna see Tyreek

621
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: Hill post videos showing how healthy is You're gonna se

622
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 2: him run. You gonna see him unning routes, lader movement,

623
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: being able to accelerate, being able to stop, being able

624
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 2: to transition and do some of the things he wants

625
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: what he once was able to do. I think once

626
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 2: those videos are posted on social media, then you're gonna understand, Okay,

627
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: he's back.

628
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: He's back. He might not be Tyrek.

629
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: Avold, but even even the same Tyreek of Old, even

630
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 2: if he loses a step, he's still faster and almost

631
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: better than ninety percent of those that play his exact position.

632
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: A lot of people they they mistake and allow the

633
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 2: off the off field stuff to kind of camouflage what

634
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: he's done on the field. Right now, if he was

635
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 2: to try today, he's a Hall of Famer. If Tyreek

636
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 2: Keire was to never played another down in the NFL,

637
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: he is a Hall of Famer. He is a first

638
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: ballot Hall of Famer. For those who don't know and

639
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: probably say.

640
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: Get away from that first ballot after they put coach

641
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: BELICHICKI I understand.

642
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: I understand because they allow all his stuff to overshadow

643
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: what players have done on the field. Look at what

644
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: he's done on the field, look at his numbers to date,

645
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: and obviously, knowing Tyreek being thirty two, as fast as

646
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 2: he is, he's probably not going to slow down anytime soon.

647
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: Based on what the way we've seen players come back

648
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: from even gruesome injuries like this, I think he's gonna

649
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: be all right. But I feel he's a Hall of

650
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: Famer based on what he's done thus far to date

651
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: in the NFL.

652
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: I think the thing is also, o Jo. I think

653
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: he should take his time. I think he had this injury.

654
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: I think he did it in week four, so he's

655
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: about five months into his surgery. Excuse me, we have

656
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: he should be in no rush. You said his next

657
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: move should be his best move. I agree because the

658
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: one thing, okay, he left voluntarily Kansas City to go

659
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: to Miami. Miami, he doesn't leave under the same circumstances.

660
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: The last thing you want to happen, Ojoe, is you

661
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: go somewhere and then after year they move on. So

662
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: now what's the thing. He ain't the same player, so

663
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: you start to bounce boom boom, boom boom boom, naughty

664
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: ping p on you, And that's the last thing they want. Because,

665
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: like you said, he's coming off a gruesome injury and

666
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: he's thirty two. Yeah, I'll tell you, y'all do realize.

667
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean he was running. He was running four to

668
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: three at thirty one, So yeah, I agree with you,

669
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: Ojoe if I don't know if we've ever seen a

670
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: player this fast have this gruesome of an injury. So

671
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: we really don't know what he's gonna be when he

672
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: gives back because that's a lot of downforce, that's a

673
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: lot of deceleration and acceleration. If he can still accel

674
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 1: can he still get in and out of those breaks

675
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: with the quickness? Can he still put fear? Hey, go ahead?

676
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: Can he still put fear on? Go ahead?

677
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: Now?

678
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: Fat fat come here?

679
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: I go ahead.

680
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: No, I was just I think that's that's the biggest thing.

681
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: We've never seen a player with this kind of speed

682
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: to have this kind of gruesome injury because the acceleration

683
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: and the deceleration because you may hey, the faster you go.

684
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: Because normally guys that run really fast, hey, they have

685
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: to throw that blake on their to get any out

686
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: of them breaks. That's about what Tyreek does. He can

687
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: decell he can accelerate and decelerate with the in the

688
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: in the same. So it's gonna be very, very interesting

689
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: to see, but I would take my time. I'm in

690
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: no rush, I'm tyreek. My resume speaks for himself. Yes,

691
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: And they're gonna ask him. You know, they're gonna bring

692
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: him in. They're gonna ask him what happened in that situation.

693
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: They always do, they always don't.

694
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think so.

695
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: Understanding knowing what he can do. It's about moving forward.

696
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: I don't see them rehashing the past because the past

697
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 2: is not going to help what you're trying to do

698
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 2: and what he can do in helping a team right

699
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: now and trying to reach their end goal. Especially the

700
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs based on yes, based on huh, based

701
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: on you know them missing the playoffs last year and

702
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: having struggles at that position. I think they'll be happy

703
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: to bring him back, especially with Eric being of me

704
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: knowing how to use in the right way.

705
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: To ask your question and chat. Y'all can chime in

706
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: in a regular job. If you get firut of your

707
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: at regular job and you go to a new job,

708
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: they ask you what happened in the old job about y'all?

709
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: You know what. I like it.

710
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: But it's a different environment with different leaders where he

711
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be that main one. You got, you

712
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: got my homes, you got some of those other fellas

713
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 2: over there.

714
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 1: When you got the coach Belichick. What did Coach Belichick

715
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: ask you?

716
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 2: Oh, he asked me nothing. I know what he did say. Listen, Welcome, Welcome,

717
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 2: welcome to the to New England. You know you're gonna

718
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: have to change who you are to be here.

719
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: But you ask if anything about what transpired.

720
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 2: He's already been there, and he's already been there. He's

721
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: already been there. He's just coming back home.

722
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: Get Kansas City, Kansas City. No, look, Kansas City.

723
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: Saw if you go somewhere else beyond what I'm saying.

724
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: But what if he doesn't go to Kansas City? What

725
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: if he goes to Buffalo? What if he goes to

726
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: the Charger I'm not saying, going to a familiar situation. Right.

727
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: They knew they took Tyreek knowing what had transpired beforehand,

728
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: so they have an understanding of who Tyreek is. But Sandy,

729
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: excuse me, San Diego, La. The Chargers don't. Buffalo does not,

730
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: maybe any other teams does not. So I need to

731
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: get a sense. I need to get a feel to

732
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: make sure this situation doesn't arise again. Go ahead, right, yeah, yeah,

733
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't.

734
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: I don't think if we have any issues on obviously

735
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: the off field stuff, it overshadows what he's done on

736
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: the field.

737
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: No, that was on the field. That wasn't off the field.

738
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: I looks and the kids.

739
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't care nothing about. Hopefully, hopefully the allegations about

740
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: the DV isn't true. I hope the kids, the kid, Hey,

741
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: that happened. I don't, I don't care. I don't care

742
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: if he got a baby one baby mama, two baby MoMA.

743
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: That ain't got nothing to do. I don't care about that.

744
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: But what we're I'm only I'm only talking about what

745
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: transpired the last game of the regular season when he

746
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: was fully healthy. Yeah, that's it. And I'm not your

747
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 1: chat and I don't want you to look at I'm

748
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: not trying to minimize it. I'm just saying we're talking

749
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: about because all that and they might even ask him

750
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: about that, But I'm talking about on the field play.

751
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: That's what and I are discussing. Yes, DV is bad,

752
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: and so I'm not trying to cut y'all know you're

753
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: gonna try to parse worlds and it will clear say

754
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: doesn't care. I do care. But I'm not asking him

755
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: about that because I can read and I will ask him.

756
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: Who knows. Maybe they called, Maybe they call her, I

757
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe they get the police report and deduce

758
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: what they can from that. All I'm saying is is

759
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: what transpired the last game of the regular season a

760
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: year and a half ago. That's what's gonna be the

761
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: major concern for teams. All the teams, maybe not Kansas

762
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: City because they know who Reek is and it's very

763
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: familiar with him. Brett Beach is familiar with him. Obviously,

764
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: E b is familiar with him. Kelsey Mahomes everybody. I

765
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: saw Chris Jones cheatah had the class. Yes, yes, so.

766
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, I think in a situation like

767
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: that O Shoe, you get asked those questions because it'll

768
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: be yeah, you know, a great person to be had

769
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: on tonight with asked too because to went from San

770
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: fran he went to Philly, from Philly to Dallas. Dallas,

771
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: So did they ask you anything about what transpired at

772
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: the previous stops? Right?

773
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, as possible as possibly they can.

774
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: I'm sure there'd be an easy question that he won't

775
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: have a problem answering. Obviously, being a player, you know

776
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: how you can get frustrated, but there's certain things you

777
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 2: really can't do, especially wearing that sea on your chest.

778
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: And it got to him and in the in the moment,

779
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 2: he was upset. I'm not sure what was going on.

780
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: I can't remember that previous game of who they were playing,

781
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: but he was frustrated, especially offensive, because he wasn't being able,

782
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: he wasn't being used the way he felt he should.

783
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: Well, I think the thing is Ojoe is the first

784
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: time and maybe since his rookie year, that he didn't

785
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: get a thousand yards. You know, you have a wide receiver.

786
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: You measure your success by a thousand yards. Let me

787
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: get that thousand and then I'll deal with it. Hey,

788
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: I might only have fifty catcher, but if I got

789
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: fifty catches for one thousand yards, that's twenty yards yards. Good,

790
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm gucci.

791
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, good, Yes, that's it.

792
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: And so I think that might have played a part

793
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: in it. And when you're at that level, you see

794
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: all these young guys, you see what chan's doing you,

795
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: seeing what jetlem's doing, you, seeing what pookahs doing you

796
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: seeing O Joe. As we start to get older, we

797
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: see those young dogs coming. Yeah. Oh yeah, man, pretty sure,

798
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: i'mnna have to get my ass on the damn porch.

799
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: I can't even run with him no more. Yeah, yeah,

800
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: we had an old dog without growing up.

801
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: O Joe.

802
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: Hey, oh Joe Boy, that was the name, Joe Boy.

803
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: Joe Boy got old and the other dogs be running

804
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: the yard. He's just bark at him, basically said, I remember,

805
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: I used to be able to do that. But I

806
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: got to stay up here, and he can get off

807
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: the porch to go out there and do his business.

808
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: But I did it. He ain't running with nothing, and

809
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: he definitely ain't going hunting with those with those other dogs.

810
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: But I wish Tyrek the best, I thought for what

811
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: he's been able to do on the field, the way

812
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: he turned himself from a gadget guy, a guy's getting

813
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: you know, some some shovel passes, some jet sweeps of

814
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: you know, fleet flickers here and there, a return specially,

815
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: and to turn himself into a pre eminent receiver that's dedicated.

816
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: That's hard work. We all have our balls, We've all

817
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: made mistakes, but in this situation, I commend him on

818
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: what he's been able to overcome to turn himself into

819
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: the receiver that he became, and so I wish him

820
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: the best, nothing but going the forward. But I agree

821
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: with you one thousand percent. Take your time. You should

822
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: be in no rush if this thing doesn't happen. I mean,

823
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: it don't have to happen the first week. You know,

824
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: the signing period is the second week of March. Jojoe.

825
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: I ain't got to get on the team. I ain't

826
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: gonna be able to do anything anyway.

827
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: But the one one thing about it, I think it's

828
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: gonna happen before that when time, When the time comes,

829
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 2: I think, you know, teams especially that need a receiver

830
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: of his caliber again even coming off injury, understanding the

831
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: value that he can bring once he is healthy, A

832
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: lot of teams can use that asset a lot of

833
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 2: teams And you know, just not to go off topic,

834
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: I love talking about Howry speaking of receivers that that

835
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: that need to be utilized in the right way. That

836
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: is another Matthew Golden. Yeah, Matthew Golden has that same

837
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: that same type of I don't understand what they're doing

838
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: over there in Green Bay, but I just I just

839
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 2: felt like throwing it out there. They need to utilize

840
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: him the right way too, because they using him as

841
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: if he's just a gadget player, and he can do

842
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 2: somewhat of the same things Tyreek can. He just hadn't

843
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: figured it out yet, if that makes sense.

844
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: Plus, I think the thing that players get caught up

845
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: in is that teams do not get caught up in

846
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: it this that hold on, we're about to invest fifteen

847
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: to twenty million dollars. I mean, maybe they wouldn't say them.

848
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: If they can get to that number, you have to

849
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 1: You have to set aside what a guy once was, yes,

850
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: and actually pay him and value him on what you

851
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: believe he'll be. We get caught up in a lot.

852
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: We get caught up sometimes in that old Joe. We

853
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: get caught up. Oh I remember, I remember, I remember,

854
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: and were paying for what he was as opposed to

855
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,479
Speaker 1: what he is, what he is everything. Yes, some things

856
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: do increase in value. Somethings they lose value. Hey, I

857
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: just saw an Enzo Ferrari I think it was gonna

858
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 1: meet them that went for sixteen million yeah, the yellow

859
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: it was yellow. I think it was one. I think

860
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: it was one on one. But they're sky rockety. Their skyrockety,

861
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: and so I think for me, that's that's what I think,

862
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: that's what team's gonna look at. I think they'll give

863
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: him decent money, O Joe, But I think it's gonna

864
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: be a lot of it's gonna be in sentiens.

865
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and knowing him, I think he's a player that

866
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 2: will be able to hit those centem especially becomes back

867
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: anywhere near like what he once was.

868
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: Miami traded the first round, traded a first round pick,

869
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: a second round pick, two fourth round picks, and a

870
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: sixth round pick to acquire Cheat Cheetah in twenty twenty two,

871
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: despite Tyreek having two productive seasons in Miami. In hindsight,

872
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: what do you think, O Joe? You like this trade? Yeah?

873
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: I like it.

874
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: From a monetary standpoint, that's it.

875
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but it's you would never be able

876
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: to get that anywhere else. No, you would never get

877
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: that be able to get that anywhere else. This is

878
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: one of the best receivers, not just at this generation,

879
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: he's still one of the best receiversons of all time,

880
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: of all time. I think people need to understand the

881
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: run that ty Tyreek was on before it's injury. This

882
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: ain't just no anybody. So, I mean it was worth

883
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 2: it and they got but they wanted Obviously, the end

884
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: goal is always to to win a championship. But there's

885
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: so many different, so many other holes that need to

886
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: be filling before we can even think about talk about

887
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: a championship down here in Miami.

888
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: Any damn with so now now, I don't know it's

889
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: gonna be hard because you're saying, now, Ocho, he has

890
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: two more Super Bowls with another Super Bowl appearance. Now,

891
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't have seventeen ninety nine and seventeen hundred,

892
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: maybe he's around thirteen, but he has three thirteen hundred

893
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: yard seasons. Now, O, Choe, were looking like hold on man,

894
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 1: Tyreek got like twelve thousand yards and another loop, another

895
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: two super Bowl rings. Ay at another all pray. I

896
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: don't know, O Joe, you might be right even though

897
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: we have some issues that and don't let anybody fool you.

898
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: They say they're not supposed to look at off field issues.

899
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: It all depends on who it is.

900
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know they they moved the gold folks

901
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: the gold post for who they want to want. You

902
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 2: know that, absolutely, you understand that, and it's it's it's

903
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: unfortunate that they they've been given that kind of power

904
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: to be able to control the narratives and tell the

905
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: and have be able to finish your story in their

906
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: own right. They just have too much power to me,

907
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 2: And I don't like politics. If I wanted to play politics,

908
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: I would have been a politician. And everything becomes political

909
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: and not what you've done on the field, which is

910
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: why it just it just it is what it is.

911
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: You'd be a great politicians. Just lie, just tell people,

912
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: just tell you constituent what they want to hear. They'll

913
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: vote you in and then they get comfortable. That's why

914
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: these people eighty plus years old that's been in office

915
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: for forty years. Yeah, but you know it's crazy. Look,

916
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: they say lady Justice because lady Justice supposedly have a scale,

917
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: so it's justice supposed to be balanced and it's supposed

918
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: to be blindfolded. But every once in a while she'd

919
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: be peaking o to oh I see you yeah, oh.

920
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 2: Yeah all the time, on you hey all the time,

921
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: and depending on it when it comes to that too, Now,

922
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: use certain people. Certain people play by different rules. Certain

923
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 2: people played by different rules, and we can see that's

924
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: going on right now. That's that's not the kind of

925
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: talk show that we do have. But as you can see,

926
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: there's a huge story going on, and there's certain people

927
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: that play in a whole different ball game, yeah, and

928
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 2: run their own system where the rules don't apply to them.

929
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: The office to release Tyreek Hill, the former Miami Day

930
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: Police officer who hauled him out of the car and

931
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: handcuffs them during the traffic stoppa har Rock Stadium September

932
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: twenty fourth, was reportedly thrilled. Danny Torris allegedly celebrated Tyreek's

933
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: release with a Facebook post on Tuesday, writing, I guess

934
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: it took a bit, but karma gotcha. Now that I'm

935
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: retired and I can tell you how I feel about you.

936
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: You are an entitled butthole and I'm embarrassed to the

937
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: team and the city that kissed your You know what.

938
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: I wish you the best and hope you are able

939
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: to afford all that child support, especially now that you're unemploying.

940
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 1: But I'm sure you'll pick up and you'll beat calls.

941
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: Have it. Their team in city. That's just how you

942
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: did in Miami. Between next time roll your fing window

943
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 1: down and the text message to the Miami News Times,

944
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: torrids Will tired of July reportedly said he was pretty

945
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: much crucified for doing my job. He reportedly added that

946
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: he was one hundred percent stands by his Facebook post,

947
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: saying I was actually nice. He destroyed me my reputation

948
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: when the incident happened, and I had to stay quiet

949
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: because I was still employed. But I'm retired, so now

950
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: it's my turn to save the truth.

951
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 2: I mean, o cho, honest, honestly, you can get it

952
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 2: off your chest. It's unnecessary, it's tasteless.

953
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: Uh.

954
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: He's talking about karma. But obviously this situation, depending on

955
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 2: who you are, you got you got to be careful.

956
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 2: You got to be careful. I understand you are retired

957
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: right now, so I'm not sure in any way or

958
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: any shape, form or fashion where karma can come back

959
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: and harm you in any way. But listen, you could

960
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 2: have just.

961
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: Let that be.

962
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 2: You can get kept. You could have kept that to yourself.

963
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 2: I mean, but it is, it is what it is.

964
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: Obviously he didn't. He didn't take a liking to the

965
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: situation in the way Tyreek handled it during that time.

966
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 2: He got a lot of a lot of flak for it,

967
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: especially being a Dolphins player, and you know, you know

968
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: how that goes, you know, And obviously the fans and

969
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: the people of Miami will be on the side of

970
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: the player side, outside of the cops trying to do

971
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: in job. But I mean, it is what it is,

972
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: what it is. It's to me, it's it's tasteless. I

973
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 2: understand you upset, and I understand you mad, but rejoicing

974
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 2: when someone is unemployed or gets cut, I mean, it's

975
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 2: come on, Uh.

976
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: I agree, O Joe. But you could the mere fact

977
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: of what he put in his post, let you know,

978
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: is personal. Yeah, absolutely, the man talk about child support,

979
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: the talk about you see what I'm saying, O Joe.

980
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: If you wanted to say, look, you calls me you

981
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: know pain because all you had to do was roll

982
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: down your window when I got crucified, I did my

983
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: job and had you just followed simple instructions like hey,

984
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: roll your window down, we would have been cool. But

985
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: the mere fact that he added a lot of anslers

986
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: stuff to go along with it. Let you know, Ojo,

987
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: let you know why you like I said, look, I

988
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: just hope uh look, I wish Tyreek nothing but the best.

989
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: It's a very very unfortunate situation. It's tough because you know,

990
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 1: there's a lot of security. There's a lot of police officers, ojo.

991
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: We come into that stadium, yeah, there's a lot because

992
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: you gotta realize you're gonna have seventy thousand people, and

993
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: all seventy thousand ain't gonna be on their best behavior,

994
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: O Joe. Some might be having a little something to

995
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: drake before they even got to the stadium, and you

996
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: know once you get in the stadium. So I just look,

997
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: I just I just hate this situation. But like you said,

998
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: the man's tied to his opinion. He felt a certain

999
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: type of way, and I just wish Tyreek the best.

1000
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: Hopefully he get all this stuff. He's able to come

1001
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: back and be the Tyreek that we remember him as

1002
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: and all this stuff that he has going on outside

1003
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: of the field, he can get that. Because it's kind

1004
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: of hard to play when you have so much on

1005
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: your plate. Yeah that's not football related, because you're only human.

1006
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: You can only you can you can only you can

1007
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 1: only ote your compartmentalize so much yes, so, no matter. Hey,

1008
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: there's a box. If you can only put so much

1009
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: in it this glass, I can. I don't care. I

1010
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 1: can only put so much liquid in this glass before

1011
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna come out. Yeah, so, Tyreek, you know we

1012
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 1: wish you the band broll, get everything situated, get healthy,

1013
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: and then take care of what you need to get

1014
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: what you need to take care of. Brown's three time

1015
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl guard Wyatt Taylor, announced that he will not

1016
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: be back with Cleveland in twenty twenty six and that

1017
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: he'll be with a new team next season as he'll

1018
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: be a free agent in March. The entire Brown's offensive

1019
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: line is said to become free agent. That left tackle

1020
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: he should have been free last year, but then Joe

1021
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: Mataniou even opposed Wyatt Taylor and Jack Conflin. But I

1022
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: left tackle. Can you imagine? Can you imagine if that

1023
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: if the Ravens, if that left tackle from Cleveland and

1024
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: the Ravens right guard was on the same offensive line. No,

1025
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: I don't do that. That wouldn't have to pay me.

1026
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: If I was a quarterback, they'd have to pay me

1027
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: one hundred million because you gonna get sacked a hundred times. Yeah,

1028
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever heard. I mean, oh, Joe,

1029
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: you know this, because you know how limon are. They're

1030
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: very quiet, they don't talk, they don't really say nothing.

1031
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 2: For him, for alive, yeah, to come out and say this, Yeah,

1032
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 2: I'm what what why why do you come out and

1033
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: say it? Mean?

1034
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: What's the point? I look, it's hard for me to

1035
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: imagine that at the exit media, at the exit meeting,

1036
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: they hadn't had conversation. Maybe his representative had had conversation,

1037
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, you know, just go ahead

1038
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: and you know, look for a new locale, whatever the

1039
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: case may be. But he is a three time probo

1040
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: guarda no matter what you think of the Browns, for you,

1041
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: first of all, for you to get that kind of recognition, yes, yes,

1042
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: people don't realize how hard it is to get recognition

1043
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: when you're a bad team, when you're a player on

1044
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: a bad team. Now, look, Miles Garrett is Miles Garrett.

1045
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: But when you're an offensive line and you don't have

1046
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: a fifteen sixteen hundred yard rusher, when you don't have

1047
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,479
Speaker 1: a three four thousand yard passer, you don't have wide

1048
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: receivers with guardy numbers. Because stats is what even though

1049
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: none of them go to the offensive line on show,

1050
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: you're like something. You know a guy last year was

1051
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: two years ago with Saquan Ran for two thousand, we're

1052
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: lot of that offensive line. Look at that offensive line

1053
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: or when Derrick Henry did what he did. But when

1054
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: you don't have a guy that has th kind of numbers,

1055
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: and you don't have a Lamar Jackson that pass for

1056
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: forty one touchdowns and you don't have a five thousand,

1057
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: how do lineman get recognition other than holy number seventy

1058
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: eight offense two legal hands to the face number sixty

1059
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: four offense. Yeah, that's the only time they get recognition.

1060
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: So for him to be a Pro Bowl player three

1061
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: times and as bad as officially as they've been, yeah,

1062
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: that probably give you a pretty good indication he's a

1063
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: pretty good player.

1064
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: Very very.

1065
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: No.

1066
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: If they're that bad and you getting recognized by your peers,

1067
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: not only on your team, but every time you play,

1068
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 2: that means you have to pop out on film. You

1069
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: have to pop out on film, even with no running back.

1070
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Speaker 2: That's going crazy, Even with no four thousand yards passing quarterback,

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Speaker 2: you got them. You got to pop out on film.

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Speaker 2: Eat things are bad yes, so