Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season three, fifteen, Episode
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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deta into
Speaker 1: America's shared consciousness. And it is Thursday, November thirtieth, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three.
Speaker 2: It's happened.
Speaker 1: I can't fuck November thirty.
Speaker 2: November, man, Yeah, yeah, it's happened. It's happen.
Speaker 1: To get out of here.
Speaker 2: No one more day. But guess what, It's also stay
Speaker 2: home because you're well day. I don't even know what
Speaker 2: the fuck time means. National Moose Day for all the
Speaker 2: people who like a chocolate moose, National Mason Jar Day, yeah,
Speaker 2: National Mississippi Day, National Personal Space Day, Computer Security Day,
Speaker 2: National Meth Awareness Day. And the picture for National Myth
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Speaker 2: or some shit. So I don't know who put the
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Speaker 2: of Remembrance for all victims of chemical warfare. So you've
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Speaker 1: Of still leading Thanksgiving left over, I just had a
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Speaker 1: By the way I think I mentioned, I think I
Speaker 1: said when we were talking about how big moose are
Speaker 1: said that there's no difference between moose and elk. That
Speaker 1: is not true. It's just that moose are called elk
Speaker 1: like are called European elk or some shiit like by
Speaker 1: in certain parts of the world. But it's not there
Speaker 1: are two different species. It's just moose is sometimes called.
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Speaker 3: They fucking your ass on this Twitter.
Speaker 1: That's right. I still I still really loves there for
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Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien aka I pissed my pants. Light about it.
Speaker 1: I don't think that my way I thought it. I
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Speaker 2: And keep reminding lammatory content.
Speaker 1: About this some clamatory aks about the one time I
Speaker 1: may have pissed my pants.
Speaker 2: It's when you keep bringing it up like that that
Speaker 2: keeps it alive. Jack, you know, every time you like,
Speaker 2: I may just just just let it go, you know, Elsa?
Speaker 1: All right, I mean all right, anyways, I'm throwing to
Speaker 1: be joined as always buy my co host, mister Miles Gray.
Speaker 2: It's Miles Gray. AKA, if you're hung Gray, just horse it.
Speaker 2: Put that sauce on it. My sauces wading coming dump
Speaker 2: on it. And I'm just talking about my bottom of
Speaker 2: Arby's Horsey sauce, my refrigerator that I've been trying on
Speaker 2: everything that's been actual. What's kind of fucked up when
Speaker 2: you meet a food that Horsey sauce does not go
Speaker 2: with at all? And it almost says like you're eating
Speaker 2: white out or something. But anyway, my Horsey sauce adventure continues.
Speaker 1: What are some failed, uh failed kind of coude herrings.
Speaker 2: I tried it on those uh mashed potato pancakes I made.
Speaker 2: I was like, what a little horse radishy thing would
Speaker 2: probably go well the flavors that I had, and I
Speaker 2: think absolutely fucking clashed with the Horsey sauce, and I
Speaker 2: don't know, thank you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I just
Speaker 2: I'm sticking with the hits, you know, just chicken tenders
Speaker 2: like a baby.
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna be like punk Hon Chaco
Speaker 1: lot dunking dunk in that jelly donut. Anyways, Miles, we
Speaker 1: aren't thrilled fortunate to be joined in our third and
Speaker 1: fourth seats by the host of season three of Beauty
Speaker 1: Translated a podcast. It celebrates the trans experience and is
Speaker 1: just a lot of fun. Please welcome Carmen Laurent and
Speaker 1: Janey Danger. I.
Speaker 3: Hi, Hi, how are you guys?
Speaker 4: So glad to be here all the way from Atlanta?
Speaker 2: Yeah, from Harman. We know you very well. Jane, this
Speaker 2: is the first time we've met you. We're really excited
Speaker 2: to have you on. So thank you.
Speaker 3: I'm glad to be Thanks guys, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: For gracing us with your presence. And you're a musician.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a musician. I have I have
Speaker 5: a new album coming out next year. I make like
Speaker 5: punk music. That's kind of the like umbrella term that
Speaker 5: I used to describe it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, Can.
Speaker 1: You use the more specific term because some of the
Speaker 1: descriptions of your music are really cool. They just like
Speaker 1: just the descriptions get me excited.
Speaker 5: They're all made up shit. It's just a bunch of crap,
Speaker 5: But there's so cool. I think that a hip the
Speaker 5: logic power violence is just it just sounds cool. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's kind of why I went with that. But there
Speaker 5: there is some truth to it too, I would say.
Speaker 5: And I just I saw you post your Spotify rap.
Speaker 5: You listen to a lot of Danny Brown and J
Speaker 5: McMafia though this year. Yeah, I think that was all.
Speaker 5: I mean, that had to be all from Scaring the hose.
Speaker 5: But I do remember when that album came out people
Speaker 5: who aren't aware.
Speaker 2: Yeah I did.
Speaker 5: I did go back and like re listen to like
Speaker 5: most of their catalog. Yeah, they're great. I love both.
Speaker 3: Of them a lot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that new Danny Brown album's really dope too. There's
Speaker 5: always such a good overlap with like punk and hip hop.
Speaker 2: I've always noticed there's always this like strong relationship between
Speaker 2: the two genres. That's always been very interesting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of history there too,
Speaker 5: like in like the New York scene and like the
Speaker 5: like late seventies, early eighties, like all of the like
Speaker 5: clubs that weren't for like rich people. They were either
Speaker 5: playing like early hip hop and like soul and stuff
Speaker 5: like that, or they were like punk clubs and so
Speaker 5: the they just kind of became two subcultures that kind
Speaker 5: of grew like congruently to each other. And you see
Speaker 5: that a lot like throughout history, you know. And I
Speaker 5: mean a lot of it has like just very similar
Speaker 5: like ethos, Like a lot of it is very just
Speaker 5: like anti authoritarian, Like a lot of it's very like
Speaker 5: pro like uh, you know, little people for the outcast creeks,
Speaker 5: you know, for stuff like that. And yeah, no, I
Speaker 5: think that's awesome. I love I love hip hop, I
Speaker 5: love all you know. It's always like I'm one of
Speaker 5: those I listened to everything. One of my friends really
Speaker 5: know punk and like metal is like a lowkey hip
Speaker 5: hop scholar, and I'm was like, what the like always
Speaker 5: likes Yeah, yeah, I'm always I'm always impressed, always impressed.
Speaker 3: I know a few people like that too.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of people that are really into like
Speaker 5: the kind of spiritual miracle stuff that are big like
Speaker 5: punk guys too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I usually just say my music's punk music as kind
Speaker 5: of an umbrella term because I try to cover a
Speaker 5: lot I do I just I just make what I like,
Speaker 5: to be honest, like, I'm just making what I think
Speaker 5: it's cool.
Speaker 1: But the description I'm referring to as a hypnogogic power
Speaker 1: violence and transcendental hyper punk artists like that, just those
Speaker 1: words are art. All right, Well, we're gonna get to
Speaker 1: know you both a little bit better in one moment. First,
Speaker 1: a couple of things we're talking about today. We're gonna
Speaker 1: check in with TikTok and what is old is new
Speaker 1: again on TikTok. The latest piece of garbage culture from
Speaker 1: my childhood that is now becoming a piece of garbage
Speaker 1: culture from today's youth's childhood is men are from Mars,
Speaker 1: women from Venus. Just that those ideas back on the charts. Baby, Yes,
Speaker 1: it's good, Charlie. Literally, that book is charting again and
Speaker 1: people are like.
Speaker 2: A book yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like a terrible
Speaker 2: dating book from.
Speaker 4: The late night from like the fifties.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, or were there I think for many basically
Speaker 1: from the fifties, But.
Speaker 2: I thought you meant like the concept like yeah, no,
Speaker 2: the book by John Gray, PhD. No relation from nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety two.
Speaker 4: Hi, but did they go to Jupiter? To get more stupider.
Speaker 5: No, well, nowadays, since everything's woke, women go to Venus
Speaker 5: because they have a penis exactly period.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it was foretelling the future. Probably we'll
Speaker 1: talk about the new KFC perfume, the.
Speaker 3: New I'm wearing a.
Speaker 1: Are you how does it smell? I hear it wonderful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is actually very fun.
Speaker 5: It smells like a famous ball. Eyes are all over.
Speaker 1: I ate so many famous bowls when I was at
Speaker 1: my twenties. Yeah, this is just like the amount of
Speaker 1: caloric density that you were getting for a small amount
Speaker 1: of money was unparalleled. Anyways, all of that plenty more.
Speaker 1: But before we get to any of it, Carmen Janey,
Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history.
Speaker 5: We talked about this yesterday and I showed Carmen my
Speaker 5: search history and she was a little appalled. So I
Speaker 5: think we should go with the easy one.
Speaker 1: Well, here build tears.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing. I saw some of the stuff in
Speaker 4: Janey's search history, and it got me to start searching
Speaker 4: some of the stuff in Jane's search history because I
Speaker 4: was curious, is she talking about so something.
Speaker 5: That Janey searched that I also searched because I've ever
Speaker 5: seen gay porn before.
Speaker 4: What they do watch to one another on camera? I typed,
Speaker 4: Jamie pulled us up. Guy can't stop ejaculating.
Speaker 2: Now that's even a thing you can search.
Speaker 4: Yes, I thought I was gonna get like a link
Speaker 4: to like a porn huff video or like something hot,
Speaker 4: but I actually got a link to like news program
Speaker 4: shorts about this guy who literally has like a hundred
Speaker 4: orgasms a day and it's actually kind of heartbreaking and
Speaker 4: really sad.
Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah you got something way darker.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got something way darker.
Speaker 1: Do we get to meet him in the news clip? Like?
Speaker 2: Heyes?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, what is his comportment?
Speaker 5: Like you get to meet her because she transitions? Oh
Speaker 5: wait what what Janie?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 5: Yes? Yeah, so she transitioned, and it actually like has
Speaker 5: helped her.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think part of it is like she was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: my sisters would put me in dresses, and I was like,
Speaker 5: I kind of like it, and I believe that for
Speaker 5: on face value, but more so I think that taking
Speaker 5: estrogen reduced like it stopped her compulsive orgasms from happening,
Speaker 5: or it like made it a lot better.
Speaker 4: So oh, Christine. I didn't even see they she looks
Speaker 4: she's serving.
Speaker 2: I remember this the person healed over. It's really funny though.
Speaker 4: Dale from a rare and seemingly incurable condition that leads
Speaker 4: to him suffering up to one hundred unwanted orgasms a day.
Speaker 2: They seemed powerful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very powerful. That's not like doubled on the ground. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get like playing frisbee.
Speaker 2: He was just trying to play frisbee at the time.
Speaker 5: This very funny part where it's I mean, it's so
Speaker 5: fucked up, but like he's saying that, like you might
Speaker 5: think it's not that bad just having orgasms all the time,
Speaker 5: but when you're at your dad's funeral looking over his
Speaker 5: gospel and you're just busting your.
Speaker 1: Papa busting just strating.
Speaker 3: Did not use the phrase bot that's my.
Speaker 2: H okay, that's your editorial over my dad's cast. It
Speaker 2: blowing my beans in my pants.
Speaker 5: Just throwing ropes on my dad dad silly string in
Speaker 5: the guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: In that case, yeah, like it's causing more trauma than
Speaker 2: even needed. It's like I didn't I didn't need to
Speaker 2: have that in my visual view as I'm having an orgasm.
Speaker 2: But hey, yeah, well, good to know that she's you know,
Speaker 2: on the on the right path now and less having
Speaker 2: less debilitating orgasms.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolute Hall of fame search history by the way.
Speaker 5: Oh thank you, my shout out to the show Seeking
Speaker 5: Derangements for putting me onto onto the guy who can't
Speaker 5: stop ejaculating.
Speaker 4: But yeah, wow, my first thought was someone get her
Speaker 4: some SSRIs because she gets on some le orgasms be
Speaker 4: gone Yeah.
Speaker 1: I believe that was the original name of the product
Speaker 1: Prozac when it was first introduced, was orgasm begone killer Googne.
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, that's sake.
Speaker 1: Coming too much. Jane. Is there something from your search history?
Speaker 1: I mean that obviously that was from you. That was
Speaker 1: the top one from Okay, that's right, let's leave it's
Speaker 1: unbeatable total for now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, let's start with you on this one, Janey. What's
Speaker 1: something you think is overrated?
Speaker 5: Oh? Shut, I looked at this. I couldn't fucking think
Speaker 5: of anything like two.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I wrote down women.
Speaker 4: Well that's gonna win us a lot of fans.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean I just think that, like, how
Speaker 5: do I explain this? I just I feel like guys
Speaker 5: are a bit slept on. I feel I feel like
Speaker 5: I feel like I feel like the dudes. Look, I
Speaker 5: was I rewatched Barbie recently and it really just stuck
Speaker 5: out to me just how much more fun the like
Speaker 5: Ken portion of that movie is. And it's I just
Speaker 5: I think I think that like serious, this sensitive stuff
Speaker 5: has its place, but like, dudes rock, and I just
Speaker 5: I really appreciate that, dude, that dudes have the ability
Speaker 5: to rock.
Speaker 3: So that's that's what I got.
Speaker 1: Amen's sister, I love that one.
Speaker 2: Rock. Yeah right, Yeah, I'm trying to tell my nieces
Speaker 2: that I'm like, I rock. They're like, yeah, does that
Speaker 2: mean never mind?
Speaker 5: Let the tell them that and then like dunk a
Speaker 5: fucking basketball over them.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 1: Foot basket doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: Carmen, do you have an overrated Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's not as funny, but having a fucking advocate for
Speaker 4: yourself in the medical system, I went. I've just constantly
Speaker 4: I've been trying to trying to make a surgery happen
Speaker 4: this year, and I've started the process in January and
Speaker 4: it looks like it's probably not gonna happen until after December.
Speaker 4: And I've just been constantly been like emailing and emailing
Speaker 4: and calling people and bugging people and like hello, am
Speaker 4: I still on the list, Like hello, hello, And I
Speaker 4: just honestly, it's one of the most like demoralizing and
Speaker 4: like exhausting and depressing, downright depressing processes ever to go through.
Speaker 4: So I hate it, but it must be done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so sorry to hear that. I mean, it's like,
Speaker 2: it's it's wild to think that you have to like
Speaker 2: you as a human being, are asking for something that
Speaker 2: is necessary to your livelihood your well being, and then
Speaker 2: you have to like prove that to this like disembodied
Speaker 2: bureaucracy who's like, well I got to go on my
Speaker 2: chart and you're like you're not. Oh my god, this
Speaker 2: isn't that fucking difficult. But yeah, it's I can only
Speaker 2: imagine how frustrating that kind of like this whole process,
Speaker 2: that process has been.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you should like zoo, like the movie John Q.
Speaker 5: You should like go in there with a.
Speaker 3: Gun and be like this is created, but give me
Speaker 3: the pussy, Give me the pussy.
Speaker 1: That is the famous Chris from John Q.
Speaker 4: The other thing in my search history is the address
Speaker 4: for the hospital in Baltimore, And uh, I'm not really
Speaker 4: I have been considering it. I'm like, they don't get
Speaker 4: back to me by the end of this week, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna give them another nasty phone call, you know, something
Speaker 4: something like that.
Speaker 3: The power of a woman's nasty phone call is unbeatable.
Speaker 2: It is period it is. I use it like a
Speaker 2: Pokemon card, like with my life. I'm like, Yo, do
Speaker 2: that ship where you turn up on the phone on
Speaker 2: them and she's like, oh, say less and then we
Speaker 2: don't have to. Now we have the same internet rate
Speaker 2: locked in. Because of that, I cancel the service. This
Speaker 2: is bullshit actually, And I'm like, is it working? Is
Speaker 2: it working? You're in the background and just be like,
Speaker 2: oh she got a body again. Wow, Like it's like
Speaker 2: a wrap bottle. Yeah exactly. I'm like, Yo, you're fucking
Speaker 2: wrecked after that, son, Lock in that internet race spectrum.
Speaker 2: Stop sucking around.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll hear what you both think is underrated.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back. We're back, and Carmen, as you know,
Speaker 1: we'd like to ask our guests, what is something do
Speaker 1: you think is underrated?
Speaker 4: Well, we were just talking about it, but I wrote
Speaker 4: down being a bitch is underrated because I got to, uh,
Speaker 4: I got to pull out my bitchy phone, my bitchyphone
Speaker 4: call card and use that. This weekend, I made some progress.
Speaker 4: I got through another bottleneck in this whole process of
Speaker 4: of surgery because I just kept calling people and being
Speaker 4: the nicest bitch possible. Like, it's a delicate balance that
Speaker 4: you have to strike of, Like you have to be
Speaker 4: nice enough to where you're not going to get hung
Speaker 4: up on, yeah and like denied service, but you also
Speaker 4: have to be mean enough to where you're like, I'm
Speaker 4: literally going to kill myself and everyone if you don't,
Speaker 4: if you don't my demands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, how do I establish that the stakes
Speaker 2: are fucking existentially high without and then again like the
Speaker 2: fucking absurdity of Like, but I have to present my
Speaker 2: humanity in a way that doesn't turn off the person
Speaker 2: that has that little bit of power on the phone. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: let the let the bitch card fly, you know, let
Speaker 2: it fly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm telling you, John Q.
Speaker 5: Or Dog Day Afternoon as Yea, I need a boyfriend.
Speaker 4: That like like the one in Dog Day Afternoon. That's
Speaker 4: where men are underrated. Go back and watch Dog Day Afternoon.
Speaker 4: Al Patino's character. Absolutely, he was really to rob a bank.
Speaker 5: That girl's pussy, okay, yeah, pussy in the bag.
Speaker 2: The pussy in the bag. Nobody gets hurt.
Speaker 5: They put like one of those like blue paint exploding thingny.
Speaker 2: I got it, I secured the bag. Don't open it.
Speaker 1: No, Janie, how about you?
Speaker 2: What's uping? You think is underrated?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 5: I had a better answer for this, but I wrote
Speaker 5: down goop and I'm not. I'm not talking about the
Speaker 5: Gwyneth Paltrow brands, Okay, I'm talking about I watched a
Speaker 5: lot of movies. I watch a lot of horror movies
Speaker 5: and stuff, and I just really noticed that lately, like
Speaker 5: every horror movie you see now is about it's about trauma.
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's about something something really serious. And
Speaker 3: I'm over it. I'm fucking over it. I'm over all
Speaker 3: that shit. I don't want trauma. I want goop. I
Speaker 3: want like Steward Jordan re animator. I want like.
Speaker 5: Limbs goopy falling off the fly, just like bloody, goopy goopiness.
Speaker 5: And I don't want it to be about trauma. I
Speaker 5: don't want the ghules and the goop to be a
Speaker 5: metaphor for trauma. I just wanted to be goop, like
Speaker 5: straight up, like right, like.
Speaker 2: Yo, how the fuck does goop get here? And fucking
Speaker 2: everything up? You're like what happened to those movies? Right?
Speaker 2: And like your mother is calling again? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah about yeah, just goopy glistening.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah exactly.
Speaker 5: I thinking about that movie Talk to Me, which everyone
Speaker 5: seemed to like, but I didn't because it was another
Speaker 5: trite metaphor for trauma. And once I realized that I
Speaker 5: was over it, I was. I liked when it was
Speaker 5: just goofy, Right, what's a good goopy movie?
Speaker 2: Like? What? Like what are you holding up to? Say? Like,
Speaker 2: use this as your guiding principal horror filmmakers. This is
Speaker 2: the so.
Speaker 5: Many a lot of Stuart Gordon stuff from Beyond as
Speaker 5: the amazing movie. That movie's crazy.
Speaker 2: A guy gets like a little dick on his head.
Speaker 3: It's so cool. Oh hell yeah what what re animator.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of really good like Giallo's and Italian
Speaker 5: movies like Demons Fucking Whips, Zombie or Zombie two. Oh damn,
Speaker 5: it's that movie is awesome. There's no Zombie one. The
Speaker 5: movie is just called Zombie two. I love that that
Speaker 5: movie Whips the Fly, classic classic goopcore film, Yeah yeah,
Speaker 5: goopcre the Blob, the Blob, Yeah yeah. And you know
Speaker 5: the thing is a lot of those are still like
Speaker 5: metaphorically about something else in many ways, but it's not
Speaker 5: as like it doesn't have the super serious tone. It
Speaker 5: has a goofy tone, and I like that. I don't
Speaker 5: need therapy after it, you know, right right, give me
Speaker 5: the yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And to be fair, I do like I like
Speaker 2: like hereditary and stuff, but I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think not everything needs to be hereditary. Some things
Speaker 2: can just be goopy.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, amazing. So I just looked up Stuart Gordon
Speaker 1: and in addition to making films like Reanimator and The Dentist,
Speaker 1: he wrote, Honey, I shrunk the kids.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where I learned bananas have potassium. Yeah.
Speaker 5: That movie has a goopy vibe to it, though, like
Speaker 5: you know, like wacky scientists like it's it's it doesn't
Speaker 5: stuff like that doesn't get made as much anymore.
Speaker 3: I miss a.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of goop coming out
Speaker 1: of the ant's mouth at one point, like it's like
Speaker 1: got a goofy mouth.
Speaker 2: Aren't they don't theyk it covered in some ship. It's
Speaker 2: just water from when the sprinklers come on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the water the droplets are like the side
Speaker 1: of their body. Yeah, it's like a viscous the water. Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 1: All right, well let's get into some news. And by news,
Speaker 1: I of course mean just look at the dumb shit
Speaker 1: that people are talking about on TikTok, right, you know.
Speaker 2: It's a good indicator. I mean, last time we had
Speaker 2: to talk because people are like they're all worshiping bin Laden.
Speaker 5: You're like, they're not, thank you for trying to make
Speaker 5: that a thing. That's what I thought you were going
Speaker 5: to bring up when you said TikTok. Oh No, no,
Speaker 5: we're talking specifically.
Speaker 2: There's just like a few articles that I was reading
Speaker 2: and I was like, wow, like the new thing right
Speaker 2: now is just terrible, terrible dating advice or like how
Speaker 2: like relationship advice. But that's like the fun thing about
Speaker 2: TikTok is you get to watch younger people discover things
Speaker 2: from the past. Like it's a fucking gold mine. Like
Speaker 2: I remember videos like have you heard of Rage against
Speaker 2: the Machine? You're like, yeah, no, go on, go on,
Speaker 2: what or like you know, sometimes they find out about
Speaker 2: an artist like or forgotten activist and things like that,
Speaker 2: but other times it's like they apparently they stumbled on
Speaker 2: Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus, a book
Speaker 2: that came on nineteen ninety two, and like like takes
Speaker 2: their like they're taking shit out of that book and
Speaker 2: be like, yo, this is like the source code of
Speaker 2: the Matrix and it's like it's true. It's to the
Speaker 2: point that the book is back on the best seller charts.
Speaker 2: This is the one that is filled with you know,
Speaker 2: just regressive gender essentialist garbage. But hey, this is what
Speaker 2: the kids are feeling right now. And if you look
Speaker 2: on TikTok, there are thousands of videos under the hashtags
Speaker 2: hashtag dating advice or hashtag dating expert. But it may
Speaker 2: shock you to hear that some of these experts are
Speaker 2: in fact not fucking experts at all. They're just usually
Speaker 2: people that know how to farm clicks or A thing
Speaker 2: that I've been seeing a lot of and we'll probably
Speaker 2: talk about this in an upcoming episode, is like there's
Speaker 2: like this aesthetic now that it's just pretending to be
Speaker 2: on a podcast, you know, like where you see people
Speaker 2: in a room where like yeah, and half the time
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, where the are these shits charting? Like
Speaker 2: I'm in podcasts and I don't know this thing has
Speaker 2: a million views as a video. But then you look,
Speaker 2: it's like there is no podcast. It's just like the visuals.
Speaker 2: It's like the aesthetic now is being like these are
Speaker 2: people talking on microphone, and I guess that lends an
Speaker 2: air of authority to it. But yeah, a lot of
Speaker 2: the advice shouldn't.
Speaker 1: By the way, we should just say yeah, you could
Speaker 1: just yeah, you can just upload that ship and make
Speaker 1: it a podcast, like I could. I could upload a
Speaker 1: voicemail and it would be a podcast.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, exactly. But a lot of the advice is
Speaker 2: like really bad. Like there's one coach saying, like, you know,
Speaker 2: women like that you need to lose weight before going
Speaker 2: out into the dating world, or using like this really
Speaker 2: this terminology like high value male or high value female
Speaker 2: or divine feminine to sort of just like you know,
Speaker 2: cloak the gender normativity and like stereotypes that like serve
Speaker 2: as this quote unquote advice in it. And you know,
Speaker 2: also shockingly this advice is very anti sex work, like
Speaker 2: with quotes that are like men don't wife pole dancers
Speaker 2: or another one was so wild. It's like, no one
Speaker 2: is going to the funeral of an OnlyFans girl. Nobody cares, like.
Speaker 4: You're like, all my subscribers will be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly they will. They will be my pallbearers. Exactly.
Speaker 2: They will bring my body into the church and into
Speaker 2: the ground and or the other things like you know,
Speaker 2: men are only there for financial gain and just doing this,
Speaker 2: like so you don't need to worry about anything except
Speaker 2: for like the financial aspect of your relationship. And some
Speaker 2: actual experts in dating and sociology are pointing to the
Speaker 2: fact that like online dating has made things pretty bleak
Speaker 2: for younger people, especially if they're all of their dating
Speaker 2: experiences begin and end with like using apps, and it's
Speaker 2: just it basically turns your relationship into a game where
Speaker 2: you're just swiping to find like the more better resourced
Speaker 2: like Pokemon card basically like as you go through and
Speaker 2: as a as a result, it leaves people feeling like
Speaker 2: like they're expendable because their attitude is like that towards dating.
Speaker 2: Some are also saying it could be a reaction to
Speaker 2: like just you know, the general malaise of capitalism that
Speaker 2: like many people are burnt out by like stagnant wages
Speaker 2: or like living with parents or things like that. So
Speaker 2: there's a certain appeal to this idea of like a
Speaker 2: rich partner who could just come in and completely change everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like fuck a relationship. Yeah, Like it's like, nah, man,
Speaker 2: fuck a relationship, Like I need to fucking I'm I'm
Speaker 2: so ground down from toiling. Yeah, Like I'm only gonna
Speaker 2: look for people who are gonna provide X, Y and Z,
Speaker 2: And that's like what my calculus is. So yeah, like.
Speaker 1: Get me off this treadmill, however I can do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it's all. It's also bleak.
Speaker 5: I feel like what you're describing. I'm not familiar with
Speaker 5: this book, but this sounds like it's very like Part
Speaker 5: and Parcel with like the Rise of like Andrew Tate, Yeah,
Speaker 5: and like like Jordan Peterson and stuff like that. And
Speaker 5: I feel like there's like there's always like a search
Speaker 5: and like more like right wing like reactionary viewpoints to
Speaker 5: like have some kind of like intellectual legitimacy to like
Speaker 5: why you're like why you're misogynists, why you're racist, why
Speaker 5: you're homophobic? Right there's always like a search to find like,
Speaker 5: oh see this fucking quack doctor said, women are more
Speaker 5: prone to like gathering and men are more prone to hunting,
Speaker 5: and you know whatever. And I feel like this book
Speaker 5: could just be another extension of that, because I mean,
Speaker 5: Andrew Tate isn't really like he's influential, but he's not
Speaker 5: like a scholar, and I feel like this could be
Speaker 5: like just a way to kind of like graft On
Speaker 5: that viewpoint to like an intellectual like, ohc these are
Speaker 5: my sources.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, in this I think it's in the
Speaker 2: exact same way.
Speaker 5: I also think the same thing with like Jordan Peterson,
Speaker 5: but Jordan Peterson is like a whiny Canadian man with
Speaker 5: like a nails on chalkboard voice that can't stop crying.
Speaker 5: So I feel like he's not as revered as.
Speaker 1: Talking about that terrible Jordan Peterson.
Speaker 2: Well, because like they're all kind of boiled down to
Speaker 2: being like like if like if you're sort of distilling
Speaker 2: into a very like harmless it's like they're saying, like
Speaker 2: we're just telling people to not settle, Like that's that's
Speaker 2: what it all boils down to. But then you really
Speaker 2: dig into it and it's like, well, no, we're actually
Speaker 2: learning how to categorize people, look at them completely differently,
Speaker 2: and then operate from that place. And to your point, like,
Speaker 2: there are just as many like like these sort of
Speaker 2: like anti feminist dating type guru people that exist like
Speaker 2: outside of Andrew Tate, like you think of like Pearl
Speaker 2: Davis and those fresh and fe Yeah. Yeah, a lot
Speaker 2: of these videos are sort of entertaining purely for the fact,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure a lot of people are just watching
Speaker 2: it for like outrage clicks. Like it's not you know,
Speaker 2: half of it is people being like, oh, I wonder
Speaker 2: if that's true, and other people like this is so
Speaker 2: fucking backwards, like what are y'all talking about. That's why
Speaker 2: I say a lot of the people are just really
Speaker 2: good at farming clicks, but like they're just some of
Speaker 2: them are just like funny because it'll be like tips
Speaker 2: on like manipulation, Like it's like how to not appear jealous,
Speaker 2: like if you if you're calling somebody and then like
Speaker 2: if you're calling a guy like in a very like
Speaker 2: cis Heat relationship and you don't want to come off
Speaker 2: as insecure and they call back and say, oh, how
Speaker 2: come you like I missed your caller? Why did you?
Speaker 2: You can say oh, I was actually rather than saying
Speaker 2: you were checking in, say that you had a flat
Speaker 2: tire and you needed their help, but another man actually
Speaker 2: helped you do that and you no longer need their help,
Speaker 2: or like just weird shit. That's sort of like how
Speaker 2: to make people more dependent on you. It's super fucking wild.
Speaker 2: Don't treat them like a human, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, every time I call my boyfriend, I make up
Speaker 4: something horrible that just happened to me, and I say, well,
Speaker 4: actually another guy came and fixed it for me. Sorry.
Speaker 4: That is genius, right for years? So you know, yeah,
Speaker 4: you should try it. I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: Oh well, here's a question I may have. Does your
Speaker 2: boyfriend passed the orange peel theory test? Do you know
Speaker 2: about this?
Speaker 4: Tell me about the orange peel theory?
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, you don't know the orange peel Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, how do you know you're in a good relationship,
Speaker 2: Carmen unless you know about the orange peel theory. So
Speaker 2: this is another thing that's blowing up like it has
Speaker 2: a ton of views under this hashtag about it again
Speaker 2: young people being like, oh this this actually makes sense?
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna play the orange peel theory for you
Speaker 2: right now so you can get an idea of how
Speaker 2: it's being discussed on TikTok.
Speaker 6: Everybody's talking about the orange peel theory. If you don't
Speaker 6: know what that is. The orange peel theory basically describes
Speaker 6: that when your partner does an active service for you,
Speaker 6: that's something that you are perfectly capable of doing on
Speaker 6: your own. And this is for really small stuff like,
Speaker 6: for example, peeling an orange. Let's say that, for whatever reason,
Speaker 6: I hate peeling my oranges, but.
Speaker 2: I really like oranges.
Speaker 6: I asked my partner, hey, babe, would you mind feeling
Speaker 6: this orange for me? And they can either respond with
Speaker 6: of course, love like not a problem at all, or
Speaker 6: they can say, no, you are perfectly capable of appealing
Speaker 6: that orange yourself, or maybe my partner already knows that
Speaker 6: I really don't fuck with citrus and has the orange
Speaker 6: already peeled and prepared for me. Either way, their response
Speaker 6: is of much bigger things than just an orange, because
Speaker 6: even just a super tiny thing like that reveals so
Speaker 6: much about their attitude toward you, and you so much
Speaker 6: about relationships. Is this small thing?
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what that's what they're going on about,
Speaker 2: is yeah, the orange it says everything about you if
Speaker 2: you don't you, which is like so one dimensional. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, y'all, y'all are in for a wild ride, because.
Speaker 1: I want my partner to be like a terrified personal
Speaker 1: assistant who's always trying to anticipate what I want three
Speaker 1: hours ahead and just have peeled fruits of various kinds
Speaker 1: laying in front of me. That's the only way for me,
Speaker 1: or that I'm good to.
Speaker 2: Have a relationship or that yeah, or that like acts
Speaker 2: of service is the only real metric for understanding how
Speaker 2: a partner values you, Like if dumb, if like, if
Speaker 2: you dumb relationships down to that level, people will have
Speaker 2: no way to actually understand what matters in a relationships,
Speaker 2: Like can you like to be like yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: it cheat on me all the time. But I have
Speaker 2: never had to appeel and orange the entire time, So ah,
Speaker 2: who's laughing now, it's just like a very.
Speaker 4: I think we need to go back to the grapefruit theory,
Speaker 4: which is you take a grapefruit and.
Speaker 2: On video, yeah, do you really love? Do you know
Speaker 2: how to work this grapefruit.
Speaker 4: Yea fact, the true measure of life is the grapefruit theory.
Speaker 2: But like I get too, Like I think it's like
Speaker 2: one of those things too with these younger people like
Speaker 2: learning about like love languages and like the one that
Speaker 2: resonates with them. It's like yeo, yeah, the actual service
Speaker 2: would come and then just completely just like hooking onto
Speaker 2: that without really beginning to understand what matters to you
Speaker 2: or being able to articulate that. Like sure, I get
Speaker 2: that if you're being very narrow and being like they
Speaker 2: won't do this, they might not care about other things.
Speaker 2: But that is such a very myopic way of looking.
Speaker 4: At what I want my partner to be realistic with
Speaker 4: me about, like like no, bitch, you can't do that yourself, right,
Speaker 4: because there are times when I am being annoying.
Speaker 5: I'm very turned off by like forced helplessness shit like that. Like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I've hung out with couples where like one of them
Speaker 5: usually the woman just kidding, but well, one of them
Speaker 5: in the relationship will will be like just I don't
Speaker 5: know anything a name, like hey, can you grab me this?
Speaker 5: And it's like the thing that they want you to
Speaker 5: grab is like closer to them, and it's like why
Speaker 5: do you need your partner to do at Like I
Speaker 5: don't know, Like maybe I'm just more independently minded, but
Speaker 5: I I just that is so grating to me, Like
Speaker 5: I hate it.
Speaker 2: There there have been moments where like I've had that
Speaker 2: relationships too, and like I'm like, you are capable, Like
Speaker 2: sometimes I will sound like the orange peel person, Like
Speaker 2: you can peel the orange. You're the orange that you're
Speaker 2: holding that you decided to eat. Yeah, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: I just don't really Okay, sorry, sorry.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't eat that ship.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: If he doesn't open the door for me, it's fucking over, okay,
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 2: Like monster material, that's goop behavior.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, because we did, we kind
Speaker 1: of talked about men are from Mars, women are from
Speaker 1: Venus being like the intellectualization or like the sources for
Speaker 1: like this bullshit. And the front of the book has
Speaker 1: like the author listened as John Gray, PhD. That PhD
Speaker 1: is from is an unaccredited PhD from Pacific University and
Speaker 1: now defunct Correspondence Institution and then an honorary doctorate for
Speaker 1: delivering a commencement speech. So and like his main thing
Speaker 1: is he studied under like one of the yoga like
Speaker 1: the original founders of yoga in those sixties and learned
Speaker 1: how to like kind of get into the spiritual guru
Speaker 1: bullshit that way.
Speaker 2: Documentaries of yeah, documentaries about how above board some of
Speaker 2: those yoga gurus have been. Yes, exactly interesting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's always some motherfucker that's like a chiropractor.
Speaker 5: That's that's like, no, listen, I've got it all figured
Speaker 5: out right.
Speaker 2: It's simple. Men are from Mars, women are from Venus.
Speaker 2: That's it. Any questions, Okay.
Speaker 1: Please stop asking me questions. What do we think is
Speaker 1: like I would love to be able to get ahead
Speaker 1: of this and just start feeding some of the like
Speaker 1: bullshit like what is the antiquated ship from our childhood
Speaker 1: miles from the nineties that we think is going to
Speaker 1: hit next on TikTok?
Speaker 2: Like because Carmen and Janey, I know y'all are gen z.
Speaker 2: That's why we said, right, y'allen z.
Speaker 1: So I'm just curious.
Speaker 2: Respect right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but put yourself in the
Speaker 2: millennial mindse no fear, like do.
Speaker 1: We think like no fear philosophy, like second place is
Speaker 1: the first loser, like that that's.
Speaker 2: Isn't that kind of already?
Speaker 3: Like I have an idea.
Speaker 5: I think it would be something like I think, all right,
Speaker 5: so I've I've thought about this a little bit because
Speaker 5: there's always very significant like pendulum swings and between generations.
Speaker 5: I think that like gen like like the Millennials were
Speaker 5: very like sex positive and very like tumblery, and like
Speaker 5: I don't know, there was like all the like pussy
Speaker 5: hat feminism and stuff like that. Yeah, and now you
Speaker 5: see gen Z is very like sex negative and sex repulsed,
Speaker 5: and there's like.
Speaker 2: We don't scenes.
Speaker 5: And yeah, yes, yes there's a new puritanism, and I
Speaker 5: feel like that's a reaction to the previous generations libertinism.
Speaker 5: So to answer your question, I think it would be
Speaker 5: something like bullying is good actually because that's just like
Speaker 5: because something like, yeah, adversity builds character, and we've all
Speaker 5: been told that bullying's bad and that you shouldn't bully people.
Speaker 5: But maybe we should bring back smear the queer, which
Speaker 5: I'm personally fine with considering I'm the queer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, and that sort of like phrases to
Speaker 2: be like we actually need like shame is actually a
Speaker 2: very powerful tool that we're missing in our society. And
Speaker 2: that's how like, because that's how all this shit it
Speaker 2: just comes reworded. And you're like, y'all are just talking
Speaker 2: about bullying, and like y'all are just talking about like
Speaker 2: very lopsided relationships or whatever. It's like, no, I'm talking
Speaker 2: about the high value males on the earth or whatever.
Speaker 2: That feels like very much like because I think we're
Speaker 2: seeing that legislated, like with all the transphobic and homophobic
Speaker 2: bills that are being passed around the country. It's like
Speaker 2: it's an attempt to create like a like legal framework
Speaker 2: of shaming like a like a certain group of people.
Speaker 2: So I think there's that like that I feel is
Speaker 2: like a thing that I feel like a lot of
Speaker 2: older people like these people just have no shame, and
Speaker 2: like we need we need people. People need to have
Speaker 2: a sense of shame for them to be able to
Speaker 2: act right or blah blah blah, this that and the other.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, yeah, to your point, Jack, no
Speaker 2: fear t shirts could be good, But I like Janie's
Speaker 2: point two, the puritanical stuff might be coming better.
Speaker 1: Just straight up puritanism. Yeah, it's just like, look at
Speaker 1: this wild sermon from Cotton Mather. You guys just blowing
Speaker 1: my mind.
Speaker 4: We're also seeing like gen Z like return to religion
Speaker 4: in a really big way, like with like trad because
Speaker 4: and I'm not saying that like that's necessary inherently a
Speaker 4: bad thing, but with trad Catholicism like kind of coming
Speaker 4: back into fashion and stuff like that. It's it's been
Speaker 4: interesting to observe that.
Speaker 5: She's very amazing to me because it's so like speaking
Speaker 5: of Shane, I don't know. I mean, it's it's like
Speaker 5: the people that like promote this ship, it's like you're
Speaker 5: not trad. You are on TikTok, like go have kids,
Speaker 5: stop talking, go practice, Like it doesn't make sense that
Speaker 5: like if you're gonna be like who's that bitch like
Speaker 5: Pearl Davis that is always like the she's her. The
Speaker 5: whole thing is like women shouldn't vote, and it's like
Speaker 5: all right, bitch, then shut up, like you're if your
Speaker 5: whole thing is women shouldn't have opinions, then shut up, bitch.
Speaker 5: Why am I listening to you?
Speaker 1: Like I'm finding out about Pearl Davis in real time
Speaker 1: as oh you're talking about yeah.
Speaker 3: Boy, Oh she's terrible she's fucking terrible.
Speaker 2: I think she went on Pierce Morgan's show and he
Speaker 2: absolutely like set her up like to kind of be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I agree with you, and then absolutely just like tore
Speaker 2: her down, and she was like, what's happening? Well, this
Speaker 2: is a friendly space for regressive ideas.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's there's a very good like clip from that too,
Speaker 5: where there's like a woman she's talking to that's like,
Speaker 5: you know, like point counterpoint kind of thing, and the
Speaker 5: other the other guest on there like brings up basically
Speaker 5: like what I did or what I just said, like
Speaker 5: so you know, why why have you you? Like she's
Speaker 5: had an abortion before, like you know, like you are
Speaker 5: already fake. I mean this is common with a lot
Speaker 5: of conservative ship where they failed to meet the standards
Speaker 5: that they set for everyone else. Like Ben Shapiro talking
Speaker 5: about masculinity your five book two, your voice sounds like
Speaker 5: you haven't hit puberty, Like what the fuck are you saying?
Speaker 2: Like, but I bought this piece of wood at home
Speaker 2: depot and in this bad looks a poplar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just the woods this magnificent, that's untouched.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 5: We talked about this and me and Carmen's Barbie episode two.
Speaker 5: But there's in in his like hour long destroys Barbie
Speaker 5: fucking video he's he brings up how hard enoughs the
Speaker 5: trans woman that's on Barbie's Like her voice is deeper
Speaker 5: than mine. It's like, that's not a hard dog, Like,
Speaker 5: I don't know why you would post your l's like that.
Speaker 5: What happened to shame?
Speaker 2: Right? What can?
Speaker 5: I just thought of one more thing that could come
Speaker 5: back for gen Z and I hope this one. I
Speaker 5: hope this is the one. But I've been seeing a
Speaker 5: big research at Tucker Carlson was very thick on this.
Speaker 5: But like tobacco and like smoking and like nicotine being
Speaker 5: like good for you, and.
Speaker 1: You smoking cigarettes more yeah, actual like smoking old fashioned
Speaker 1: cigarettes with old cigarettes.
Speaker 4: Electricity, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Don't need to charge those ships or anything. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Right.
Speaker 3: They're like, dude, that that vape is going to kill you.
Speaker 2: Right, They're like, dude, you know the rare earth metals,
Speaker 2: they got a mind for that battery for that vape.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna smoke this marble.
Speaker 1: I do wonder what sort of below the surface, like
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu has been happening to like with like the
Speaker 1: major tobacco companies, like like we I think we just
Speaker 1: had Oh yeah, we were talking about how the Surgeon
Speaker 1: General just came out and was like, actually, loneliness is
Speaker 1: worse for you than smoking cigarettes. And I'm like, was
Speaker 1: he paid by like, first of all, it's true? Second
Speaker 1: of all, was he paid by the back of the
Speaker 1: industry to say that shit? Like that's yeah, but that
Speaker 1: was what you know, somebody wh recently quit nicotine like that.
Speaker 1: That was what occurred to me. I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: So maybe I can just like smoke then, because right,
Speaker 1: I'm not not that bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lonly you're like I FaceTime with my boy, I
Speaker 2: might have a cigarette.
Speaker 5: So I've heard that if you are able to quit
Speaker 5: by the age of like thirty five, then it will
Speaker 5: like basically like negate, most of the like super negative
Speaker 5: effects by the time you get older.
Speaker 3: So that's something you can You can.
Speaker 2: Keep cheating, keep chiefing those darts up until your d
Speaker 2: You gotta be the new TikTok nicotine groove like nicktknick
Speaker 2: talk right now, Actually that could be. Here's a deal.
Speaker 2: How old are y'all? You're good, dude? You got like
Speaker 2: ten years to quit the Chief Darts.
Speaker 5: Do y'all know about the the the Tucker Carlson clip
Speaker 5: I'm talking about where he's talking about how like weed
Speaker 5: makes you stupid and submissive, unlike nicotine, which opens your mind.
Speaker 3: It's like it's so cool.
Speaker 5: It's just so cool that someone thinks, first of all,
Speaker 5: it's true weed is evil and nicotine is rat So
Speaker 5: I mean, bat.
Speaker 1: Mind expanding, the great mind expanding benefits.
Speaker 2: Wait is nicotine? Is it? Was?
Speaker 5: He?
Speaker 2: Was he talking about it? Like in relationship to mental cigarettes?
Speaker 2: Is that he's a huge.
Speaker 3: Vapor Yeah, Tucker calls them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He Like when you re a profile of him,
Speaker 1: they're like he anytime he's not on camera, he's vaping. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And Hannity Hannity also yeah yeah yeah. Like like it's
Speaker 2: like it's like I'm pretty sure it's like just out
Speaker 2: of like the camera eye line. Basically, it's like, all right,
Speaker 2: we'll breaking let me just I guess my fucking lightsaber,
Speaker 2: but let me I think this. Let me play this
Speaker 2: clip because it seems like a Tucker Carls said nicotine take.
Speaker 2: But let's see if this is the one.
Speaker 7: What do they hate tobacco and it's not because it
Speaker 7: causes cancer. They don't care about your health. They closed
Speaker 7: the gyms during COVID. Anyone who closed a gym during
Speaker 7: a pandemic that killed people who were fat clearly doesn't
Speaker 7: care about your health. Yeah, they hate nicotine. They love THHC.
Speaker 7: They're promoting weed to your children, but they're not letting
Speaker 7: you use tobacco or even non tobacco nicotine delivery devices,
Speaker 7: which don't cause cancer. Why do they hate nicotine Because
Speaker 7: nicotine frees your mind and TG makes you compliant and passive.
Speaker 7: That's why I hate it. It's a real threat to them.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, man, because I knew all of Bob Marley's
Speaker 2: songs were like just as simulate and what the state says, like,
Speaker 2: I love that. It's so forceful, Janey, like the idea, Like,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why they hate it because it was
Speaker 2: like to say, with.
Speaker 1: Your mind is so wild?
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: All right, we got to take one more break. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 2: We're back for your mind.
Speaker 1: Free your mind with the cane, all right. Another thing
Speaker 1: the free is your mind. The scent of some nice
Speaker 1: Kentucky fried chicken. It feels like Kentucky fried chicken very
Speaker 1: popular in other countries, like hmm, so Spain, this is
Speaker 1: in Spain, that this is happening.
Speaker 3: They eat KFC on Christmas in Japan.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, oh yeah, no, I'm Japanese. It's like
Speaker 2: we used to collect the every year they put out
Speaker 2: a Christmas cup and you like, yo, you get the
Speaker 2: new KFC Christmas cup. Yeah, from the people that were
Speaker 2: occupying after the war. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's that.
Speaker 1: You get that, colonel military leader, Colonel Sanders. Yeah, KFC
Speaker 1: Spain is marketing a new perfume. I'm not even going
Speaker 1: to try to pronounce this ood.
Speaker 2: O duardo like, oh.
Speaker 1: Which comes to shape like a drumstick. I look at that, Miles,
Speaker 1: I say, that's a that's the scrotum.
Speaker 2: That is a scrotum. Yeah, that is a scrotum disease,
Speaker 2: scrot or like, but as part of like a Christmas
Speaker 2: light like change, like you can screw the like the
Speaker 2: scrotum lights.
Speaker 4: Like find the throat them on the tree and you
Speaker 4: get the.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, not the pickle anymore. Yeah, yeah, find the scrot.
Speaker 1: They even made a whole commercial parenting pretentious fragrance ads
Speaker 1: in which two models dance in the desert and stumble
Speaker 1: upon the drumstick bottle and then hand it to one
Speaker 1: another and then continue to dance it. It doesn't smell
Speaker 1: like chicken, per se. It smells like the herbs and
Speaker 1: spices KFC uses to disguise the local chicken.
Speaker 5: Yeah, mut already smelling like sage and paprika, like.
Speaker 1: That bergamont, geranium, mandarin, and pink pepper.
Speaker 2: According to them, again, like it perfect because I only know,
Speaker 2: like maybe one of those things smells like is there.
Speaker 3: An original and an extra?
Speaker 4: Crispy bergama is citrusy? And I don't fuck with cit.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: My partner better know that.
Speaker 2: These hands on fu with citrus. But I like the
Speaker 2: taste every other way, if only inside my math. Don't
Speaker 2: make me touch it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean we talked about how earlier this
Speaker 1: year they gave away fried chicken sent it in sense.
Speaker 2: They did, like they did a log that you could
Speaker 2: put in your fireplace.
Speaker 4: Oh now that is appealing.
Speaker 5: To feel like, yeah, you're like, will just make me
Speaker 5: so frustratingly hungry.
Speaker 1: That's the thing, right, Like this is just a way
Speaker 1: to make yourself hungry in settings where you might not want.
Speaker 2: To be hungry.
Speaker 5: You know, maybe that's the plan, is that it's supposed
Speaker 5: to make you hungry, so you go get kofsc.
Speaker 4: Guy can't stop eating KFC.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Back in twenty twenty, they told chicken scented crocs, which
Speaker 1: the fuck that's a collab of the year right there.
Speaker 1: That's just how a line cook smells.
Speaker 2: Right, right, crock, rubber and some deep friar.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just come to East Atlanta Village, go to flat Iron,
Speaker 5: find the line cook that just got off, and take
Speaker 5: a bill.
Speaker 4: Probably give you a bump too.
Speaker 5: Right, No, he's gonna ask you for a bump. You're
Speaker 5: gonna say no, you'll find one somehow, right, And.
Speaker 2: He's like, wait, you smoke parliament. He's like, you got
Speaker 2: a parliament? I can dump this And you're like, wait
Speaker 2: what it's on?
Speaker 3: It's on. It's it's the American spirits.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I think parliaments are.
Speaker 2: Out, don't they got the recessed filter for people to
Speaker 2: do the bump schneezers out of I'm gonna be.
Speaker 5: Honest, I've never seen someone use use the in in
Speaker 5: that way.
Speaker 1: I never seen there, but well, just every time I
Speaker 1: smoked a parliament, I heard people say.
Speaker 3: In l A.
Speaker 2: Yeah I've seen I've seen it with my own eyes
Speaker 2: in l A.
Speaker 3: Really yeah.
Speaker 5: I think that's one of those like awesome factoids that
Speaker 5: people love, Like every time they see a parliament they're like,
Speaker 5: oh you know that those you do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's either that it's like you know they did that,
Speaker 2: or the pilot could bite down while they were fighting,
Speaker 2: you know, a war for whoever the fuck, but or yeah,
Speaker 2: like to your point, gered like oh so you blow up,
Speaker 2: Like yeah, no, right, you've had a.
Speaker 5: You know, I do have one friend that it is
Speaker 5: an enjoyer of cocaine and she's always smoking parliament, so
Speaker 5: maybe there is something to it, so like, yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Could be like an LA thing. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's like I just felt like it was a very
Speaker 2: like West Side LA thing is where I saw it,
Speaker 2: like really be like a thing. But yeah, to your point,
Speaker 2: like other than that, like it would be something people
Speaker 2: would reference but you would never see them do.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean I guess not not a
Speaker 1: lot of people. I didn't see a lot of people
Speaker 1: doing cocaine, like, but I you definitely like heard it
Speaker 1: like when like.
Speaker 2: In a bathroom, you mean, because people are crying really like.
Speaker 1: No, just like you would hear people talk about it
Speaker 1: like on ghost but they I never saw it, so
Speaker 1: maybe that was because people, you're.
Speaker 2: Not in a police station right now, what are you
Speaker 2: talking like? So I don't like, I'm just like, you know,
Speaker 2: I've heard of it, And every time I heard of it, Myles,
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think you should do that.
Speaker 2: I don't even know. I couldn't give you like a name.
Speaker 2: It's illegal, like I just mean, much like.
Speaker 5: Uh, tobacco, there's nothing that the results aren't in on
Speaker 5: if it's dangerous for you or not.
Speaker 4: It expands your.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it does expand your minds.
Speaker 1: That's actually they recommend that once you quit smoking at
Speaker 1: thirty five, you switch over to cocaine. Yeah, and it's healthy.
Speaker 1: It's good for your healthy nerves.
Speaker 4: Yeah, transfer addiction, it's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh but you know it's funny. I saw Tucker Carlson,
Speaker 2: he was dou He was on like THEO Vaughan's podcast,
Speaker 2: and THEO vaughn was talking about cocaine. I saw that,
Speaker 2: so and Tucker was like, yeah, talking that ship though too,
Speaker 2: like about cocaine, And I was like and he but
Speaker 2: he was doing his like I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but you're like, bro, you just you do that tracks
Speaker 2: for me, I could totally see him being schneefed up.
Speaker 2: Like I mean, if you if your job is talking
Speaker 2: for a living, like I'd be surprised if you're not
Speaker 2: on some kind of uppers in some way.
Speaker 1: You're finding the Reagan era like.
Speaker 2: Like this is just like this is them talking about it,
Speaker 2: and like you can tell, like Tucker Carlson, he's not
Speaker 2: like what's that, I've never heard of that.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's not on Fox anymore, so we can
Speaker 3: say whatever you want.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it is one of the reasons I don't do
Speaker 8: cocaine anymore is because they fucking ruined it, what with
Speaker 8: the Fennel used to.
Speaker 4: Be his baby laxative.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I'd rather ship than not, you know, I mean,
Speaker 8: you know, I'd rather get off the toil and be like,
Speaker 8: oh I was heckticked and be like get out light
Speaker 8: and then it's like God, go it blue, but I
Speaker 8: gotta go to heaven and that and that, by the way, is.
Speaker 2: A guess see he's like, Okay.
Speaker 5: I fucking hate that he went on that podcast because
Speaker 5: like that, like that makes him look normal, right and
Speaker 5: not like a fucking genocidal psychopath, Like right, that's so
Speaker 5: that's gea to me when people like do that.
Speaker 4: And then Alan brought George Bush on with his finger paintings.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, ship like that. I think Theovonne also
Speaker 5: had fucking Candice Owen's Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah he has them all, like they all end up
Speaker 2: stopping by that show and you're like, what the fuck
Speaker 2: is going on? But yeah, like yeah, all the fans like, oh,
Speaker 2: like you. I remember like looking at the comments around
Speaker 2: that clip, people like, oh, I didn't know Tucker Carlson
Speaker 2: was like like was like that, Like I didn't know
Speaker 2: he was cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean I've known a lot of people that do
Speaker 5: coke and not all of them are cool, believe it
Speaker 5: or not.
Speaker 1: What coke, Yeah, they all do. Yeah, And diagram is
Speaker 1: just a circle a really annoying person on coke that
Speaker 1: they're in the best.
Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, someone with really bad ideas being loud
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, turned up like five x that shit. Yeah amazing. Well,
Speaker 1: Carmen Janey, what a pleasure having you both on the podcast. Carmen,
Speaker 1: where can people find you? Follow you? All that good stuff?
Speaker 4: You can find me over on Instagram at the Carmen
Speaker 4: Laurent and our podcast page is at Beauty Translated pod.
Speaker 4: The new season, season three is going to premiere on
Speaker 4: January twenty fourth, so look out for that. We may
Speaker 4: be back by them who knows. And until then, I
Speaker 4: definitely suggest you go back and listen to our older episodes.
Speaker 4: Jane's been on the show several times. Listen to her
Speaker 4: original episode, listen to the other episodes with her. Her
Speaker 4: most popular episode this season season two was the Barbie Review.
Speaker 4: But I would like I would like to highlight Monica Helms,
Speaker 4: the woman who created the trans flag Calpernia Adams an
Speaker 4: amazing trance like we had a bunch of trans trailblazers on.
Speaker 4: So go back and listen to season two for sure.
Speaker 1: Amazing And Jane, where can people find you other than
Speaker 1: season three? Yeah?
Speaker 5: So yeah, season three Beauty Translated. Also, we're starting a
Speaker 5: Patreon called bt Ultra and.
Speaker 2: Uploading to that like mk ultra. Is that the deal?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: Sort of?
Speaker 5: And also for kind of trademarking reasons, we're just calling
Speaker 5: it bt ultra and not saying what BT stands for.
Speaker 4: Right, These folks are pretty high up in the company here,
Speaker 4: Jane Interesting.
Speaker 5: British tell Guy Yeah, yeah, British Yeah, BBC Ultra.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Also yeah.
Speaker 5: I make music on Spotify, Janey Danger on anywhere can
Speaker 5: you get music? I have an album coming out next year,
Speaker 5: some EPs and stuff. I got a lot in the works.
Speaker 5: We're also playing a show on New Year's Eve. If
Speaker 5: you're in the Atlanta area, it's gonna be.
Speaker 3: A lot of fun.
Speaker 5: If you follow me on Instagram at Janey Danger, you
Speaker 5: can keep up with all that stuff, and also on
Speaker 5: Twitter at wife Sucker. Because I got my old account back.
Speaker 5: I sent an appeal and said I would be very
Speaker 5: good and I'm back.
Speaker 4: So yeah, there's.
Speaker 2: A right down too long?
Speaker 1: I mean, if you say so amazing. Is there a
Speaker 1: work a media that you guys have been enjoying?
Speaker 4: This one make me laugh. It's a tweet from somebody
Speaker 4: that's at Caleb says things. It's kind of an old tweet.
Speaker 4: It just says being gay is exhausting. Why do I
Speaker 4: have to say we love her when I walk past
Speaker 4: a lamp post? And that is highly relatable to me
Speaker 4: because I will see something I like and just say,
Speaker 4: look at her, we love her.
Speaker 2: Ah shit, dude, Jadie's looking at her phone right now trying.
Speaker 5: To Yeah, I'm scrolling through my feed seeing anything that
Speaker 5: I have like retweeted that really is like sticking out
Speaker 5: to me right now. Okay, here's this one from a
Speaker 5: friend of me, Skatie for twenty Joe Biden acts like
Speaker 5: one of those dogs that's like twenty three years old
Speaker 5: and it's still alive for some reason, and every now
Speaker 5: and then it just stops breathing. But like it's fine,
Speaker 5: shout off to Skatie. She's very funny.
Speaker 2: Shit. But let's the phrasing, like it's fine. But guy,
Speaker 2: he's fine, know that he could do one more.
Speaker 4: Term's fine, he's.
Speaker 2: Good, he's good. You can get one more out of him.
Speaker 2: We'll get one more.
Speaker 1: I got four more years, right, Yeah, yeah, Miles, Where
Speaker 1: can people find you as their working media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2: Yeah, find me on the app based platforms at Miles
Speaker 2: of Gray. Find Jack and I on our basketball podcast,
Speaker 2: Miles and jackot Mad Boosties. You can find me on
Speaker 2: my ninety day fiance podcast called four hundred twenty Day Fiance.
Speaker 2: You know, four yea four with Sophia Alexandra tweet. I'm
Speaker 2: liking well, first, I also again want to plug my
Speaker 2: friend Kim Cooper's show It's gonna be fantastic. It's a
Speaker 2: one woman show that's happening in LA. You can find
Speaker 2: a link for that in the footnotes. And I say
Speaker 2: it because I saw it and I really like the
Speaker 2: show and I want people to go check it out.
Speaker 2: It's called Trauma Response. Check the link out in the footnotes.
Speaker 2: Tweet I like is from Amelia Eli's All Day at
Speaker 2: Emilia Alias Alday tweeted giddy Up Jingle Horse pick up
Speaker 2: your feet would devastate me.
Speaker 1: So rude, Like the person is like clapping when they
Speaker 1: say that giddy jingle on thirty. Ok, let's go.
Speaker 2: That's my trauma.
Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd call it a day after that.
Speaker 3: What kind of turns me on?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: That was mine?
Speaker 1: Also, Oh shit, I also had John Hanson at John
Speaker 1: Hanson Talks it's officially surprising your coat pocket from last
Speaker 1: winter season, which I had found a pen in there
Speaker 1: from last year that I didn't know what happened to.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've got like a bunch of masks and tissues.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a lot of silk care ties in mine.
Speaker 4: That's really really looking for so I'm glad, okay, I
Speaker 4: probably I.
Speaker 3: Got a bag of coke.
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Speaker 1: talked about today's episode is a song that we think
Speaker 1: you might enjoy myles of song that you think people
Speaker 1: might enjoy it?
Speaker 2: Well, I, Janey, since you are a musician, I would
Speaker 2: actually liked to give you the floor and let's direct
Speaker 2: the listeners to one of your songs so they can
Speaker 2: experience the majesty that is Janie Danger.
Speaker 5: Oh thanks. You should check out Jane as a Bit.
Speaker 5: That's my find most listen to your song if people
Speaker 5: like it. It's short, it's sweet, so yeah.
Speaker 2: A minute long. I see you right there. Okay, so
Speaker 2: buckle up. This is Jane as a Bit by Janie Danger.
Speaker 2: Check this one out wherever you get your music.
Speaker 1: Thank you, buckle up jingle Horse. Yeah all right, we
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Speaker 4: By bye bye, Drink dri