Speaker 1: Wharning.
Speaker 2: This episode contains scenes that may be disturbing to some
Speaker 2: of our listeners. At the end of the previous episode,
Speaker 2: Consuelo Amaya, Captain Corral's sister in law, recalled how many
Speaker 2: in Colombia and around the world remember Paulo's Kobar, but
Speaker 2: few keep the memory alive of the anonymous heroes who
Speaker 2: helped to end his reign of terror. This turbling time
Speaker 2: in the mid nineties, after Pablo's Kovar fell and Captain
Speaker 2: Coral was killed, left a trail of pain in the
Speaker 2: Koral family. They were particularly difficult years in the context
Speaker 2: of more than six decades of farmed conflict in Colombia,
Speaker 2: in which almost two hundred and seventy thousand people died.
Speaker 2: In addition to that figure of fatalities, it is estimated
Speaker 2: that more than four hundred and twenty one thousand have
Speaker 2: been affected in one way or another, and in this context,
Speaker 2: the Koral family was like many others, fractured, scared, and grieving.
Speaker 2: One more family in mid nineties Columbia. At that time,
Speaker 2: Los Medica Rido, the widow of Captain Corral, remembers a
Speaker 2: drastic change in the attitude of her.
Speaker 1: Some bets an.
Speaker 3: Such a happy kid, and you know, because he was
Speaker 3: so happy, he's restless. He danced, he sang, he acted.
Speaker 3: In school, he was always asked to participate in the
Speaker 3: place where they was singing and acting. He was a
Speaker 3: very active child who liked to help.
Speaker 2: Captain Corral's death was so unexpected and traumatic that it
Speaker 2: left everyone in shock. The days following the murder were difficult,
Speaker 2: even logistically. A family friend lent Los Medica Rido card
Speaker 2: to right fromage to Bogota, almost five hours away. They
Speaker 2: spent the night there in Bota, and in the morning
Speaker 2: of April twenty three, nineteen ninety four, the family took
Speaker 2: a flight to Barankiya, the city on the coast where
Speaker 2: Umberto Coural was born and raised. But Beto's attitude, behavior
Speaker 2: and personality transformed after that burial in Bharanqui.
Speaker 3: Yes, he stood next to his father's coffin and he
Speaker 3: walked in silence. He didn't cry, he didn't say a
Speaker 3: word nothing.
Speaker 2: He appeared tough, but on the inside he was a
Speaker 2: child who felt tired, confused and said he knew.
Speaker 4: Jagon alas Ijegola policia.
Speaker 3: And then my son arrived at the funeral home and
Speaker 3: then the police arrived. Four policemen lined up, two at
Speaker 3: the foot of the coffin, two at the top, with
Speaker 3: my son standing next to it with a very dry look,
Speaker 3: in other words, with a hardness, without a gesture of pain,
Speaker 3: of sadness. He had no expression on his face. Then
Speaker 3: I called to him and I said, Pappy, come here,
Speaker 3: are you tired. I was amazed because this kid, I
Speaker 3: remember very well, said to me from now on, I'm
Speaker 3: not allowed to get tired. I can't get tired, and
Speaker 3: I won't get tired.
Speaker 2: Let's imagine the scene at the funeral. There's an eight
Speaker 2: year old Beto surrounded by uniformed police officers carrying his
Speaker 2: father's coffin, whom he had just seen a few weeks before.
Speaker 2: When they lowered the coffin into the grave, they also
Speaker 2: lowered the promise of finally living together as a family.
Speaker 2: And from that moment in Brankiya, Beto has memories that
Speaker 2: are almost impossible to forget.
Speaker 5: Yer, we arrived in Barrankuiya and everything was disorderly. Everything
Speaker 5: was horrible. Everyone was screaming, everyone.
Speaker 2: Was Beto has a photo he shared with me. In it,
Speaker 2: he's small in the background with a stoic gaze. He's
Speaker 2: surrounded by police officers. With more people gathered around. Betto
Speaker 2: is helping to carry the large and heavy coffin wrapped
Speaker 2: in a huge Columbian flag. The funeral changed everything for him.
Speaker 2: In his mind, Beto thought of his father as a
Speaker 2: detail oriented, dancing, smiling and loving man. The image of
Speaker 2: the corpse in the coffin forever altered that image in
Speaker 2: Beto and Jennifer's mind.
Speaker 5: It's a fortunament. Unfortunately, I was able to see my
Speaker 5: father dead in the coffin, and it's inevitable not to
Speaker 5: remember him without seeing him dead in the casket.
Speaker 6: And it seems super terrible to me that a child
Speaker 6: sees that. I mean, I don't understand why they took
Speaker 6: us to see that, like, look, there's your dad dead
Speaker 6: and full of cotton.
Speaker 1: The entire Koral family was devastating.
Speaker 3: Lona, and.
Speaker 6: It was also tough to see my grandmother suffer because
Speaker 6: I think for a mother, it must be tough to
Speaker 6: bury a child. To see my grandmother like that, she
Speaker 6: still cries for him.
Speaker 5: But I've never heard that type of yelling in my life.
Speaker 5: The screams of my grandmother were difficult. To describe.
Speaker 2: And it's because Beto and Jennifer's grandmother, who was on
Speaker 2: a trip in New York, traveled back home after being
Speaker 2: told only a half truth that her son Umberto had
Speaker 2: not survived the surgery he was scheduled to have.
Speaker 5: In a moment there they told her that my father
Speaker 5: was killed and how he was killed.
Speaker 2: It was a funeral with a lot of people in
Speaker 2: a cemetery in the outskirts of Bankilla, outdoors under the sun.
Speaker 2: The casket that seemed shocking and a sentatious to Beto,
Speaker 2: seemed to go and in hand with the event. Jennifer
Speaker 2: described it as having a certain tone of grandeur.
Speaker 4: A sup.
Speaker 6: It's super moving. I mean, the tributes, everything they do
Speaker 6: is something. I mean, it's super nice because it's like
Speaker 6: a movie. You see those military wakes in the movies
Speaker 6: and you say, wow, how elegant all the military, but
Speaker 6: really it's something super.
Speaker 2: Ugly, and at their young age, Jennifer and Betto had
Speaker 2: a hard time understanding what was happening.
Speaker 7: Eludo Lord, the protonis moment to know for.
Speaker 5: The pain at that moment is not so strong metaphorically
Speaker 5: because they keep telling you that he's in heaven and
Speaker 5: that he will always be with you. So as a child,
Speaker 5: we always take everything very literally. So I imagine that my
Speaker 5: dad was going to come see me every.
Speaker 2: Day, and Beta waited for the day his dad would
Speaker 2: come back to see him, but that moment would never come,
Speaker 2: although the memory of his dad helped him as he
Speaker 2: told his mother that day to never give up, to
Speaker 2: never get tired. This is Transportista who murdered Captain Correl
Speaker 2: episode four, I Can't get tired. After his father died
Speaker 2: and the family gathered at the funeral, Beto Corral made
Speaker 2: a promise to himself to step in as the man
Speaker 2: of the family.
Speaker 8: He was young. He was only eight years old. His
Speaker 8: mother describes that commitment she saw in her young son.
Speaker 1: Here again was.
Speaker 4: Made Daijo yotra at two.
Speaker 3: Since then, I've seen another attitude in Bettle. It was
Speaker 3: a strange attitude and a kid a silence like here,
Speaker 3: I am the one who take care of the family.
Speaker 2: Beto was very compassionate and understanding with his mother, who
Speaker 2: lived through very challenging times. Beto and his sister shared
Speaker 2: a common goal to ease their mother's pain.
Speaker 4: Casa.
Speaker 3: One day, I came home and I said, well, I'm
Speaker 3: going to fix some something to eat. So I went
Speaker 3: over to start cooking, and when I opened the fridge,
Speaker 3: I expected to see sausages. I had bought sausages for
Speaker 3: about fifteen days to cook for them, and I also
Speaker 3: had gotten some ham and some cheese.
Speaker 2: Lumetti realized that all the food she had purchased for
Speaker 2: her children for the next few days was no longer
Speaker 2: in the refrigerator.
Speaker 4: Kip us all, it's a commune to chicail Haramon, And.
Speaker 3: I said, what happened? Did you eat all the sausages
Speaker 3: and ham? And you know the kids, they just looked
Speaker 3: back at me with fear. Then they took out coins
Speaker 3: and bills from their little box. And my daughter said,
Speaker 3: it wasn't my fault that I told me we should
Speaker 3: make hot dogs and sandwiches and sell them in the neighborhood.
Speaker 3: These kids, they sold our foot they sold our food.
Speaker 3: But they did it to make a profit, and they
Speaker 3: made a profit. And they even replaced the sausages and
Speaker 3: the ham. They got more customers. They kept selling them.
Speaker 2: When Captain Carl was murdered, the government of Columbia forgot
Speaker 2: about them, and the family had to restart to different
Speaker 2: measures to survive.
Speaker 4: Camels seemed not.
Speaker 3: We were left with nothing, without receiving any money, rent, food, school,
Speaker 3: all that. I started taking care of everything, and it
Speaker 3: wasn't too much for me because I've always worked.
Speaker 2: Before his death, the family depended largely on Captain Cordral's
Speaker 2: salary to get by loose. Mati had always worked selling
Speaker 2: merchandise and clothes, but it was hard to take care
Speaker 2: of for her two young children, completely.
Speaker 4: A cargarnin having then, so I started.
Speaker 3: Taking kids to school, selling lunches and groceries at home.
Speaker 3: I wanted to say, wow, I can take care of
Speaker 3: my kids. I can provide them what they need instead
Speaker 3: of going to my parents' house. So I had to
Speaker 3: make a lot of effort to maintain the same standard
Speaker 3: of living.
Speaker 2: All this while the Coral family continued to deal with
Speaker 2: such a painful loss, but Beto didn't give up. He
Speaker 2: suffered seeing his mother working so hard and finding herself
Speaker 2: in such a difficult situations.
Speaker 5: The name of mine Crusio Ntonia.
Speaker 1: The community.
Speaker 5: There were years when my mom didn't even have enough
Speaker 5: to feed us, and she would come home crying. She
Speaker 5: would say, we have nothing, I have nothing. To feed you,
Speaker 5: I learned to eat something called warus. Warus is the
Speaker 5: food that poor people eat in Colombia when they only
Speaker 5: have rice and water, no oil or salt, so they
Speaker 5: mix the rice with water, cook it and the rice
Speaker 5: turns into a watery mass and we ate that for
Speaker 5: many nights because we have no money.
Speaker 2: These brutal shortcomings could have been less severe if the
Speaker 2: state has supported louse Matti with a pension. However, in life,
Speaker 2: Captain Corral omitted something that could have solved many problems
Speaker 2: for them. LUs Medi, Ga Rio and Numerto Corral never
Speaker 2: got married, and as we mentioned in the previous episode,
Speaker 2: Captain Corral was no saint. LuSE Medi found out something
Speaker 2: at the funeral that broke her heart.
Speaker 5: Leaziroyu, but my dad had another boy from another woman
Speaker 5: and another daughter from another woman, who I must say,
Speaker 5: are wonderful. They're my siblings. I have nothing against them.
Speaker 2: Better remembers that his mother, in addition to feeling pain,
Speaker 2: felt anger equipies exclusive.
Speaker 5: The blame is solely on my dad for exposing us
Speaker 5: like this. But my mom was not married to my dad,
Speaker 5: and the law in Colombia at that time was absurd
Speaker 5: and did not allow the presumption of union that the
Speaker 5: facto marital union can exist.
Speaker 2: That is, if a couple has been together for at
Speaker 2: least two years, then the state can allow it to
Speaker 2: be considered a marriage. Therefore, she was left with nothing,
Speaker 2: but all the four children of Captain Corral have the
Speaker 2: right to receive a small amount. Economics were not the
Speaker 2: only hardship the family suffered.
Speaker 4: And in ya yavivia komo tromundo and in ya yametko
Speaker 4: concie lokio.
Speaker 3: My daughter appeared. She'd already been to see psychologists, speech
Speaker 3: therapists or language therapy because she was completely blocked in
Speaker 3: the classroom. She wouldn't talk. She was very scattered, and
Speaker 3: once the psychologists asked Jennifer, tell me what do you want,
Speaker 3: and she answered, I want to go see my dad
Speaker 3: and then I'll come back.
Speaker 8: While for many girls and boys, elementary school is a
Speaker 8: fun and joyful period, for Jennifer it was the opposite.
Speaker 9: In the momento.
Speaker 5: Upi k yoya ga.
Speaker 6: At that moment when they found out at my school
Speaker 6: that I had become an orphan, I was the object
Speaker 6: of teasing and bullying. Like I remember so much that
Speaker 6: your dad went to hell for killing Escobar, like your
Speaker 6: dad will pull your legs at night, and they made
Speaker 6: fun of me.
Speaker 2: She had to enjoy the bullying from her classmates, and
Speaker 2: the mother of the family had to use what little
Speaker 2: money she had to pay for private school to wish.
Speaker 1: Joe is doing.
Speaker 5: I studied in private schools because I was not accepted
Speaker 5: in Napoli school. They did not accept me. They did
Speaker 5: not give me a spot.
Speaker 2: Since Beto was the son of a police officer of
Speaker 2: that rank, a captain posthumously promoted to major, they assumed
Speaker 2: he would have the right to study in a public
Speaker 2: police school.
Speaker 1: But he was the nightest spot or.
Speaker 5: So lamentestleau because they were orphans only until eighth grade.
Speaker 5: My mom managed to get a.
Speaker 8: Spot LUSMDI had multiple jobs at the same time. She
Speaker 8: fought daily to give her children the education they deserved.
Speaker 8: Her life was not easy, and on top of that,
Speaker 8: because she was a woman and a widow, there were
Speaker 8: men who took advantage of her. She managed to get
Speaker 8: a spot for him at the police school when Betta
Speaker 8: started the eighth grade, the last year of middle school
Speaker 8: in Columbia when he was fourteen.
Speaker 1: However, Aman.
Speaker 7: Erector, this hypoca materk.
Speaker 5: Not the way she got it. I remember to this
Speaker 5: day the principal at that time, she begged and pursued
Speaker 5: him to give us a spot for her two children.
Speaker 5: At that moment, he asked her out, and every time
Speaker 5: my mom went to his office she had to endure
Speaker 5: the harassment from that man in order to get us
Speaker 5: a spot. My mom even suffers sexual harassment from police
Speaker 5: officers at that time, and it was very, very painful
Speaker 5: to see my mom have to humiliate herself that way.
Speaker 5: At that time, you saw it as normal, although my
Speaker 5: mom told us, yes, he's asking me out from my mom,
Speaker 5: what can we do? So I'm going to go out
Speaker 5: with him? And it was very sad. Now I understand
Speaker 5: it today and it angers me even more now today.
Speaker 5: And that's how it was. Those were very tough years.
Speaker 2: It's another case of sexual harassment in a country and
Speaker 2: a region where this type of violence is so common
Speaker 2: that it is seen as an epidemic that threatens women,
Speaker 2: but it was not, and this is not acceptable or tolerable.
Speaker 2: Those years put the whole family to the test, but
Speaker 2: Beto swore he wouldn't give up. Despite the difficulties. Both
Speaker 2: Jennifer and Beto graduated from school, and as Beto grew up,
Speaker 2: he began to develop an increasingly strong interest in following
Speaker 2: his father's footsteps police here.
Speaker 5: I always wanted to be a police officer. I wanted
Speaker 5: to be like my dad.
Speaker 2: Every time he tried, he made a mistake that set
Speaker 2: of alarms within the institution in country.
Speaker 5: In every interview, I told the details of my father's murder.
Speaker 2: Beto had grown up witnessing injustices and he wanted to
Speaker 2: remedy them however he could. But every time he sat
Speaker 2: down for an interview at the police academy, his words
Speaker 2: made them uncomfortable.
Speaker 7: Adam Laurei lasanrevist tels mean this, and you're meeting Tolos
Speaker 7: Anti Santus Catinian of Amelia.
Speaker 5: So clearly during the interviews they would say, well, this
Speaker 5: gentleman look at all the family's background and with seemed
Speaker 5: talking too much about his dad. So I passed all
Speaker 5: the exams, but when it came to the final stage,
Speaker 5: the psychologist gave me a negative assessment and they rejected
Speaker 5: me because they noticed in me a quite contentious personality.
Speaker 2: That ended Beto's dream as a teenager to honor his
Speaker 2: father's memory by following in his footsteps, and he was
Speaker 2: rejected from the same institution where his father stood out
Speaker 2: and was decorated. But Beto had a vocation that he
Speaker 2: was not going to give up. In two thousand and eight,
Speaker 2: he was accepted to study law at the Cooperative University
Speaker 2: of Columbia in Ivagi, a private university. To pay tuition,
Speaker 2: like he'd done his whole life, Beto worked, He prepared
Speaker 2: and sold pork tamalis, and drove a taxi. Studying law
Speaker 2: made him feel more confident among his classmates.
Speaker 7: On Yo kaistoria ila ras polacology, I reach into the
Speaker 7: camp because bndia.
Speaker 5: When I told my story and the reasons why I
Speaker 5: was studying law, people were a little surprised by it.
Speaker 5: They were a little shocked by how he was killed.
Speaker 2: And as he progressed in life and acquired greater knowledge
Speaker 2: in the field of law, he dealt more and more
Speaker 2: into the facts and circumstances surrounding his father's murder. He
Speaker 2: also became very active on social media and started using
Speaker 2: it to dig into the past. It was during this
Speaker 2: period that one day his mother received a strange phone call.
Speaker 2: She picked up the receiver and heard a.
Speaker 3: Voice and said tell your son. They didn't ask for anything,
Speaker 3: but it said tell your son to stop digging or
Speaker 3: end up like his father.
Speaker 1: Louse Matti was terrified.
Speaker 2: Immediately, she contacted Beto and she found out something that
Speaker 2: Beto had been hiding from her, that he, on his own,
Speaker 2: had been investigating the events that led to his father's murder.
Speaker 3: The kid starts telling me everything, and I'm amazed.
Speaker 2: He had been doing it for years without telling his family.
Speaker 2: LUs Metti learned that Beto began his own investigation when
Speaker 2: he was an early teen.
Speaker 3: So I said to him, please tell me everything. I
Speaker 3: need to know everything. Then he says to me, I
Speaker 3: sent two letters to the president at the time, the
Speaker 3: president was al Royuribe, and he sent him two letters.
Speaker 5: He was just a kid.
Speaker 3: I don't know, thirteen, fourteen years old, maybe fifteen, but
Speaker 3: he was a kid, and he said, I remember, he
Speaker 3: says to me. In the year that I sent the
Speaker 3: letter to the President of the Republic, Mom, I wasn't
Speaker 3: asking for food or housing. I wasn't asking for help
Speaker 3: with my homework or school. I was asking for my
Speaker 3: father's death not to go unpunished.
Speaker 2: Better revealed the details of his investigation and his contact
Speaker 2: with President Alberto U rive only after his mom received
Speaker 2: that call, and they weren't just threatening him through his mom.
Speaker 7: Recie woman ass asked de mortenell dos Mila Kinz.
Speaker 5: I received that threats in twenty fifteen. Throughout the entire year,
Speaker 5: because I was insistent on my social media talking about
Speaker 5: the subject, I would write many generals and policemen looking
Speaker 5: for them.
Speaker 2: Beto conducted his investigation on his own, with his own means.
Speaker 2: He didn't have access to an official file that would
Speaker 2: reveal any truth or omission to him. He sought high
Speaker 2: ranking police officers, constantly pressuring them to share with him
Speaker 2: and the world what they knew or hid about his
Speaker 2: father's murder. However, these threats sometimes confused.
Speaker 5: Lejama this is police yes okay, went on that I
Speaker 5: sometimes took the calls from these police officers as like.
Speaker 1: Friendly, until one day it all made sense.
Speaker 5: A call from a police general alerted me. At first,
Speaker 5: it was funny because hello, hi General, how are you good?
Speaker 5: Good beto? All good, bit Beto. Look stop that let
Speaker 5: it go, brother. They're going to kill you out there,
Speaker 5: and you're going to leave your mom alone. It's in
Speaker 5: the past well man, thank you very much. Well take
Speaker 5: care of yourself. God bless you, God bless you General.
Speaker 5: I hung up after two minutes. This man who just
Speaker 5: told me that if I continued, they will kill me.
Speaker 5: I took it as a dead threat.
Speaker 2: Beto felt restless and scared, like at his father's funeral.
Speaker 2: He prefers not to reveal the identity of the police
Speaker 2: officer who gave him that chilling message over the phone,
Speaker 2: but it was clear and it disturbed Beto to the
Speaker 2: point where he began to plan escape roots and strategies
Speaker 2: in secret.
Speaker 5: Mami, and one day I told Mom, I think I'm
Speaker 5: gonna have to leave because they're going to kill me.
Speaker 5: And yes, I'm afraid I might do something to you.
Speaker 2: Because of his background and academic training, better knew his
Speaker 2: country and the extreme violence that was possible. Time passed,
Speaker 2: Beto had two children, He started a new chapter. He
Speaker 2: began to study law. It was then that he received
Speaker 2: a threat targeting one of his sons, and.
Speaker 5: We read Socialist the photos I had my social networks
Speaker 5: with photos of him. I was sent photos of him
Speaker 5: threatening to kill him.
Speaker 2: They had sent him a message by email threatening his son.
Speaker 2: Beto knew he had to leave the country and fast.
Speaker 5: I had to buy an urgent ticket on December twenty second,
Speaker 5: because they were going to tell me they were going
Speaker 5: to kill me before the end.
Speaker 1: Of the year.
Speaker 2: This terrifying message meant that he could no longer stay
Speaker 2: in Colombia. He had seen it happen too many times,
Speaker 2: and each time was worse than the last. This time
Speaker 2: they were not only messing with him or his mom,
Speaker 2: but his son. Beto couldn't come up with another option,
Speaker 2: so he shared his plans to his mom.
Speaker 4: JOm me, really.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 3: I had a meltdown. I completely rejected that. I said
Speaker 3: to him, no, you're not leaving. He said, hug me,
Speaker 3: give me a hug and say goodbye. Don't let me
Speaker 3: leave without hugging my family. I didn't say goodbye. I
Speaker 3: saw how determined he was, but I thought to myself,
Speaker 3: if I don't say goodbye, he won't leave. I don't
Speaker 3: want to say goodbye. I don't want to see him go.
Speaker 3: So I went home and the phone started ringing at
Speaker 3: seven in the morning. I saw messages on WhatsApp saying, Mom,
Speaker 3: please answer me. Don't let me go without getting a
Speaker 3: hug from you. I told him I told him, no, no, Umberto,
Speaker 3: don't go. I'm not gonna hug you. I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: say goodbye. I don't want you to go.
Speaker 2: Lose Matti had to experience yet another loss. She didn't
Speaker 2: want to be separated from her beloved son. It was
Speaker 2: as if Lose Matti was once against having a family
Speaker 2: member ripped away from her, and once again it was
Speaker 2: because he was seeking justice in her country. Beto decided
Speaker 2: to leave before those threats were fulfilled, and he ended
Speaker 2: up like a ghost like Captain Corral, with a broken
Speaker 2: heart for being unable to say goodbye to his mom
Speaker 2: with one last hug, especially as such a special day.
Speaker 2: Beto took a flight from Bogotad to Houston on Christmas
Speaker 2: Day twenty fifteen. Until this day, Beto and his mom
Speaker 2: LUSEMETI haven't hugged each other again.
Speaker 1: We'll be back after a break.
Speaker 2: Amidst death threats against his mother, his son, and himself,
Speaker 2: Better arrived in the United States on a tourist visa.
Speaker 2: He came alone, without his family and without knowing how
Speaker 2: to speak English. Beto had never left Colombia before. He
Speaker 2: decided to try his luck in the United States because
Speaker 2: he was told he could get help there, he decided
Speaker 2: to settle where almost all Colombians do when they arrive paramamial.
Speaker 5: I'm going to Miami, where that cultural shock doesn't affect
Speaker 5: us much. And I arrived in Miami and started my
Speaker 5: asylum process, and I really didn't know how to do it.
Speaker 8: Asylum is a resource for obtaining legal residence in another
Speaker 8: country if applicants believe they are being persecuted in their
Speaker 8: country of origin based on race, religion, membership in a
Speaker 8: social group, or a defined political opinion. Although this might
Speaker 8: seem suitable considering better circumstances, he entered the country on
Speaker 8: a tourist visa and applied for asylum after the fact.
Speaker 8: When done this way, asylum seekers face a high risk
Speaker 8: of getting processed or deported due to what is called
Speaker 8: a false entry. Nevertheless, and despite the risk, Beto began
Speaker 8: this long process.
Speaker 5: Independent paralle But then I would told that it was
Speaker 5: better to do it through an independent process with a
Speaker 5: paralegal or a lawyer who said that. So I did
Speaker 5: it that way.
Speaker 2: Apart from fleeing to save his own life, better thought,
Speaker 2: perhaps naively, that the United States would also help him
Speaker 2: bring justice to his father's case.
Speaker 5: Today, I believe that the United States was going to
Speaker 5: help me to protect my mother's life. I believe that
Speaker 5: the United States, because my father gave his life in
Speaker 5: the war and worked with the DEA, was going to
Speaker 5: help me.
Speaker 2: Because let's not forget Captain Corral, as part of the
Speaker 2: Search Blog, collaborated with the DEA and FBI to end
Speaker 2: the reign of Powloskar. Captain Corral had also received training
Speaker 2: in the US. Better thought this would make it easier
Speaker 2: for him to obtain asylum. But more than seven years
Speaker 2: have passed, Beto has not been able to obtain asylum
Speaker 2: in the United States. It has been more than seven
Speaker 2: years without him hanging his mother, and he has been
Speaker 2: separated from his children. But as he told his mother
Speaker 2: that day when he was only eight years old, he
Speaker 2: would never give up.
Speaker 5: How much Albuss at Washington, I traveled many times to Washington,
Speaker 5: took action before the Inter American Commission and Human Rights.
Speaker 2: This commission is part of the Organization of American States
Speaker 2: based in Washington, DC. Betho filed complaints and began exhausting
Speaker 2: his resources to pursue his father's case and protect himself.
Speaker 2: But again he was not making progress. The Commission denied
Speaker 2: him the resources for precautionary measures and protection twice. In
Speaker 2: addition to seeking justice for his father's case, he also
Speaker 2: became involved in other causes of social leaders in Colombia
Speaker 2: and those injured in protests, not only with the Commission
Speaker 2: but also with the United Nations. And this was not
Speaker 2: his only priority. Remember that Veto arrived in the United
Speaker 2: States with no money. He only had one semester left
Speaker 2: to finish law school, but in the United States it
Speaker 2: was impossible for him to have his studies recognized. He
Speaker 2: had to start a new life. Like millions of other
Speaker 2: migrants who come to the United States, he began to
Speaker 2: work wherever he could, again facing the economic necessity of
Speaker 2: doing whatever it takes to.
Speaker 7: Survive find okay as it als Columbianos and his anal
Speaker 7: extriory limiting as well.
Speaker 5: I came to do what all Colombians do when they
Speaker 5: are abroad and put in the airport. I have been
Speaker 5: of vala parking attendant. I picked up garbage. I was
Speaker 5: a waiter. I did more. I worked in construction. I
Speaker 5: did one of the toughest jobs in the United States
Speaker 5: in a bakery, cooking bread is terrible because you go
Speaker 5: from extreme heat to extreme cold over time.
Speaker 2: When Beto took the dough out of the freezer and
Speaker 2: went to the oven area, he told me that this
Speaker 2: cast his eye veins to burst, and he also burned
Speaker 2: the skin.
Speaker 1: On his arms. So he decided to cover the scar
Speaker 1: with a tattoo.
Speaker 5: Really a panel pricipio. It was terrible. The bread burned
Speaker 5: at first. Well, but there's a saying that goes A
Speaker 5: baker who doesn't burn the bread is not a good baker.
Speaker 2: And yes, better baked bread. Parked cars in a valid
Speaker 2: parking lot or drove for uver. But even in exile,
Speaker 2: while waiting for news on his status as an asylum
Speaker 2: seeker in the United States and knocking on the United
Speaker 2: Nations door or the Inter American Commission on Human Rights,
Speaker 2: he did not give up his quest for justice.
Speaker 1: For his father's case. From Afar.
Speaker 2: He thought to obtain more details that would completely change
Speaker 2: the course of his investigation, even if it meant facing
Speaker 2: the highest levels of power in his.
Speaker 7: Countryfu La primer Optineties experient.
Speaker 5: And it was the first time after almost twenty six years,
Speaker 5: that I managed to obtain that file. But it was
Speaker 5: like that it was by force.
Speaker 2: Judical file that had been hidden for decades, which would
Speaker 2: completely change the course of his investigation and it would
Speaker 2: also change the direction of his life. That's on the
Speaker 2: next episode of Transportista who Murdered Captain Coral.
Speaker 5: On my folio called the photo Recorrindo toiles off with
Speaker 5: my case number, letters and father's photo. Visit in all
Speaker 5: the judicial offices, so they would listen to me, give
Speaker 5: me the file, move it or draw attention, look do
Speaker 5: something to discover my father's killer. Everyone ignored me. I
Speaker 5: think the Prosecutor's office didn't give it to me, and
Speaker 5: I think they would help the file for many years
Speaker 5: so that I wouldn't do anything. In the years when
Speaker 5: I could have done something.
Speaker 9: The close ones were dying. And then four months later
Speaker 9: they killed a lieutenant. It wasn't a captain, but they
Speaker 9: killed him in the same conditions that they killed Don Vertico.
Speaker 8: Transportista Who Murdered Captain Corral is a production of Exile
Speaker 8: Content Studio and Detective in partnership with Iheartzmichael Toura podcast Network,
Speaker 8: and is hosted by me Alberto Sespees.
Speaker 1: Production by Diego.
Speaker 8: Liberis Jimenez and Albero Sesperes, with the help of Sabine Jensen,
Speaker 8: Andrea Sevajos, a Isabel Octavio and Veronic Carnandez. Written by
Speaker 8: Alvao Sesperes, edited by Carmel Ratterol, fact checking by the
Speaker 8: sire Jeppes.
Speaker 2: Thanks to the voice actors who contributed in this episode.
Speaker 2: Beto coral Is, Razio Mancilla, Jennifer corral Is, Andrea Sevaios,
Speaker 2: LUs Meri, Ga, rido Is, Rose Reed, Teresa sifuentees Is,
Speaker 2: Carmel Gratro.
Speaker 8: Executive producers are Carmel Ratterol, Rose Reed, Iszac Lee and
Speaker 8: diegen Ricosur. Sound designed by Pachiones and Gonzalo Messi. Original
Speaker 8: music by Sebastin Leon. Danil Batista oversees audio at Exile
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