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Speaker 1: this coming weekend at MetLife Stadium, will go over some

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Speaker 1: of the latest team news, and we'll get to your

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Speaker 1: phone called as I mentioned, but let's start with probably

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Speaker 1: the biggest development of the date. Paul and Pat Shermer

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Speaker 1: earlier today mentioned that Odell Beckham was going to a

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Speaker 1: local hospital to get further testing for his bruise quad

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Speaker 1: and O'Dell has now returned to the facility. He is

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Speaker 1: actually addressing the media as we speak, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: read you an exact quote from Odell Beckham that the

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Speaker 1: Giants Twitter account has tweeted out. Given the fact that

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Speaker 1: he once again just returned and tried to give an

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Speaker 1: update on his status of where he sees himself comes Sunday.

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Speaker 1: He said, quote, I won't know until Sunday gets here.

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Speaker 1: Feeling better every day, end quote. So it sounds like, Paul,

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Speaker 1: if you read between the lines here, that it could

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Speaker 1: very well be a game time decision. We also heard

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Speaker 1: from offensive coordinator Mike Schuler earlier today, and you know,

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Speaker 1: the Giants their game planning as if Odell's in the

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Speaker 1: about everything at this point as they get set to

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Speaker 1: play the Tennessee Titans. Well, they don't have a choice

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Speaker 1: because they were surprised last weekend when on Saturday morning

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Speaker 1: did not play in the Redskins game when they thought

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Speaker 1: as a Friday afternoon it was going to be a go.

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Speaker 1: So if you don't plan for all of the different circumstances,

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Speaker 1: then we ran by a very unpleasant surprise. So that's

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Speaker 1: did ask Mike Sula earlier today about how Beckham would

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Speaker 1: And he really didn't know. He had never seen Beckham

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Speaker 1: we've seen that back in the day when a mod Bradshaw,

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Speaker 1: you how many Fridays that he constantly missed Paul or

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Speaker 1: even some Thursdays, and then he'd suit up comes Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Now the game has changed, the game is evolved. But

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Speaker 1: if there's any player who I think can get away

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Speaker 1: So you know, I agree with Coughlin. You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: How all of a sudden did things get worse? And

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Speaker 1: a much more functional group. Yeah, and going off that

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Speaker 1: point pull, I mean Nate Soldier, I don't know if

430
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Speaker 1: he was battling maybe a little injury the last since

431
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Speaker 1: the buy, I mean, he's been playing outstanding and nothing.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can't say enough about Nate soldiers play

433
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Speaker 1: as well. We've been hearing a lot about Jim own Brown,

434
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Speaker 1: but Nate Soldier I think has been playing really well.

435
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Speaker 1: His leadership has also been very critical. My understanding is,

436
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Speaker 1: believe it or not, he's a big brother to everybody

437
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Speaker 1: in that offensive line room. It's not just Will Hernandez

438
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Speaker 1: who was sitting on his right shoulder as the left

439
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Speaker 1: guard he has actually been coaching up everybody else in

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Speaker 1: that room. Wow, that's awesome guy. Last question for you guys,

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Speaker 1: Tony Lippett was brought over as a as a guy

442
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Speaker 1: in the waiver wire. Who who has some good size

443
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Speaker 1: sixth three I think like to ten who played with

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins, maybe was last year. I mean considering his size,

445
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Speaker 1: and he's on the practice squad right now. Do you

446
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Speaker 1: see him getting moved up to uh getting getting getting lipids?

447
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Speaker 1: First of all couple weeks Chris Lipid is on the

448
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Speaker 1: active roster, He's not on the practice you see him,

449
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Speaker 1: I know Grant Hale, He's played very well in the

450
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Speaker 1: slot obviously with Lipid size um and I've been happy

451
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Speaker 1: with b B w Wepp. Do you see him getting

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Speaker 1: some action more on the I haven't seen him on

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Speaker 1: the outside. Have you seen him get any action? Maybe

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Speaker 1: the white Lipid was inactive this last game and he

455
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Speaker 1: hasn't really been in the mix. And part of the

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Speaker 1: reason is Chris what you have to understand is he

457
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Speaker 1: did not play last year. He had a torn achilles

458
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Speaker 1: that he suffered in September. So when Luana Rumo, the

459
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Speaker 1: secondary coach who was with him in Miami, addressed the media,

460
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Speaker 1: said the reason we brought him in is because we

461
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Speaker 1: think he has upside. He has familiarity with us as

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Speaker 1: some of the members of the staff. He was also

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Speaker 1: with Michael mom Is in Miami. But he's still trying

464
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Speaker 1: to get his legs underneath him. Paul. In my opinion,

465
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Speaker 1: and I don't know necessarily if they're ready to give

466
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Speaker 1: him the full green light, I think that's one of

467
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Speaker 1: the more signings where it's like, let's evaluate him, let's

468
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Speaker 1: see what he has, and you know, maybe he's somebody

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Speaker 1: worth bringing in to further evaluate next year. To me,

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Speaker 1: I think it's kind of like a rich shirt year

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Speaker 1: for him. And and quite honestly, when guys tear their achilles, uh,

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Speaker 1: they'll tell you in many instances, Now there are those

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Speaker 1: who have done it in less time, but in many

474
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Speaker 1: instances it's at least a year to you even get

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Speaker 1: close to being able to go. And if he's only

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Speaker 1: going to be a reserve or a spare part anyway,

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Speaker 1: it's senseless to push him onto the field any's sooner

478
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Speaker 1: than necessary because you might do more damage than good.

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Speaker 1: So in my opinion, he's more of a guy that

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Speaker 1: they're looking forward to during the off season. Look, he's

481
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Speaker 1: been here much like Sam Beale, you know that the

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Speaker 1: guy they drafted in the third round of the supplemental draft.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's been at practice every single day. He's

484
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Speaker 1: soaking it all in, and he's gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: hit the ground running as soon as the off season

486
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Speaker 1: program begins. And they're gonna look at Biel to become

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Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna compete for a starting job next year.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure to lip It is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: guy who's gonna compete for a roster spot as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the positive for those two and appreciate the phone call, Chris,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for weighing in, is that they'll be

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Speaker 1: ahead of the curve. Yes, since they already at least

493
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Speaker 1: will be able to digest the system and so forth. Now,

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Speaker 1: in fairness, lip it has been seen on special teams

495
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Speaker 1: when he's been active. We don't want to make it

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Speaker 1: sound like they're not utilizing. It's just we're talking about

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Speaker 1: based on the question Paul and I from a defensive standpoint,

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Speaker 1: what type of role we anticipate, And I would think

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Speaker 1: it would expand if he is fortunate enough to make

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Speaker 1: the roster next Sea, let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 1: Given his size and he's also got pretty dawn good speed,

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Speaker 1: is it possible that during the off season the Giants

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Speaker 1: may decide because of a litany of circumstances he's going

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Speaker 1: to compete as a safety. It's possible, especially within this defense. Also,

505
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Speaker 1: a guy like Michael Thomas Paul who's that versatile jack

506
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Speaker 1: of all trades type of player. I would not rule

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Speaker 1: that out, especially since he's come from the Dolphins system

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Speaker 1: where they did move personnel around Luana rum As I mentioned,

509
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Speaker 1: the defensive backs secondary coach is familiar with him. It's

510
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Speaker 1: very possible that they can experiment with a veteran player

511
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Speaker 1: like that. And I think you need multiple guys like

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Speaker 1: that who you feel comfortable move into the backside, moving

513
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Speaker 1: in the slot, because you never know when injuries are

514
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Speaker 1: gonna strike. Case in point Landon Collins has surgery and

515
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Speaker 1: now Michael Thomas has an expanded role as a result.

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Speaker 1: So I mean that's certainly something to look forward to

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Speaker 1: moving forward with respect to the makeup of this roster.

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Speaker 1: Before we head back to the lines, the one thing

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Speaker 1: that you touched on, and I wanted to bring this

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Speaker 1: up because I tweeted out the other day and we

521
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Speaker 1: were talking about defense is now having a reason to

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Speaker 1: bring a guy in the box. And then you had mentioned, well,

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Speaker 1: the Giants are now averaging over a hundred fifty yards

524
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Speaker 1: per game during this for one surge. Here posed by

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Speaker 1: these to me are the telling statistics Paul, as to

526
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Speaker 1: why things have drastically changed for the Giants first eight

527
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Speaker 1: games they went one and seven, they were averaging just

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Speaker 1: under nineteen points a game. In these last five following

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Speaker 1: the by the raging over thirty one points per game.

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Speaker 1: Now they also have three defensive touchdowns which they did

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Speaker 1: not have in the first half of the season. That

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Speaker 1: has helped to scoring. It's just one thing that at

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Speaker 1: least to keep in mind. Rushing yards per game you

534
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Speaker 1: brought up a hundred fifty one if you round it up,

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Speaker 1: is what they're averaging over the last five. They were

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Speaker 1: only averaging seventy eight yards per game on the ground

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Speaker 1: in the first date, so they were not giving teams

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Speaker 1: a reason to bring somebody into the box. And before

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Speaker 1: you go in a further remember the goal to usually

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Speaker 1: be a top eight team or so is about a

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty to a hundred and thirty five yards

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Speaker 1: a game on the ground. That usually is gonna put

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Speaker 1: you in the in the top third of the NFL

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Speaker 1: at least, maybe even higher, and in all likelihood you'll

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Speaker 1: probably be a playoff contender. So one five is like,

546
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Speaker 1: really a juicy number. Giants are over right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but also again during the second half, I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: that's a good number that you're talking about for the

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Speaker 1: entire season, because keep in mind the Giants on the season,

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Speaker 1: despite how well they've played running the football, they're still

551
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Speaker 1: twenty second in the NFL Hall in terms of rushing offense.

552
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Speaker 1: They're only averaging a hundred six yards for games. So

553
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Speaker 1: it just goes to show you how much ground they

554
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Speaker 1: still have to make up in the second half of

555
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Speaker 1: the season to at least finish at a respectable level. Again,

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Speaker 1: you're looking at a number that's indicative of the fourth

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Speaker 1: edition of the offensive line. It's almost like, you know,

558
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Speaker 1: the the NFL is not gonna let you do it.

559
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Speaker 1: You'd love to throw out the one in seven and say, okay,

560
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Speaker 1: remember to split strike season in baseball, where you had

561
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Speaker 1: the winner in each division in each of the halves

562
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Speaker 1: got to play in playoff round wouldn't not be great

563
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Speaker 1: in the NFL because the Giants would be four and

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Speaker 1: one in first place in the NFC East, because they

565
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Speaker 1: right now are an absolute bona fide playoff team based

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Speaker 1: on what they've done since to buy. But you can't

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Speaker 1: get rid of that one and seven. The league says

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Speaker 1: you have to own it or it reminds me of

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Speaker 1: Depending on your teacher or professor, sometimes they would be like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it will throw away your lowest test score

571
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Speaker 1: to maybe help your average. So the Giants there were

572
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: seven low test corps in the first couple of months.

573
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Speaker 1: There were way too many to just disappear real quickly.

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Speaker 1: Before we head back to the lines, the other two

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Speaker 1: disparities that I think are important to know Paul first

576
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Speaker 1: half of the season to these last five games turnover

577
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Speaker 1: differential minus four first aid games. Paul plus nine in

578
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Speaker 1: the last five huge turnaround. And then how about the

579
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Speaker 1: sacks That ten sacks in the first eight games, they

580
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Speaker 1: have fourteen sacks in the last five. Combined the development

581
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Speaker 1: of b J. Hill and also the resurgence of Olivia

582
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: Varnon playing much better and you could tell now that

583
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Speaker 1: he's healthy a little bit more comfortable, has his legs back.

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Speaker 1: No surprise there. Now we can head back to the

585
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Speaker 1: phone lines at zero one four or five one three.

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Speaker 1: Antonio is in Manhattan, Antonio, what's happening? Hey, what's going on? Lines? Great?

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Speaker 1: How are you tring mine? So just wanted to point out, Um,

588
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Speaker 1: I feel like the Giants in the second half of

589
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: the year has gone on and every time I cast it,

590
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: I feel like I say this, but it's true. I

591
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: feel like they've gone way more zone and I feel

592
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Speaker 1: like that's helped Overtree so much. I mean, he's never

593
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: had this many interceptions I feel I feel like in

594
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Speaker 1: his career, but I feel like at the beginning of

595
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: the season we had him a lot of man coverage

596
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Speaker 1: and it's just worth working out for him. All of

597
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Speaker 1: his interceptions have come off a zone. Um. You know,

598
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at game pass and it's just it's I

599
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: think that that that's what we need to as a defense.

600
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Speaker 1: We've got better just playing more zone. What do you

601
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: guys think about that? Have you guys noticed that? Well,

602
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,239
Speaker 1: what I noticed about Beckham is that teams have been

603
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: playing much more bracket coverage and then not only starting

604
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Speaker 1: out with a bracket but as the play develops, then

605
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: they're bringing in safety over the top, and there are

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Speaker 1: times when he has been triangled by three guys in

607
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Speaker 1: a zone. I mean, that's what I've seen a lot of,

608
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Speaker 1: and that happened a lot in the first half of

609
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Speaker 1: the season. And you know, don't get me wrong, it

610
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: was frustrating for him, but nonetheless, he was still on

611
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: pace to have what would have been I think career

612
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: highs at every total despite what teams were doing to him.

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Speaker 1: That's why it was so exciting to see Barkley then

614
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Speaker 1: break out, because now teams have other things to worry

615
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Speaker 1: about your figure. Well maybe, just maybe some of that

616
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: attention will be taken away from Beckham. The truth of

617
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: the matter is teams have still bracketed him throughout the

618
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Speaker 1: second half of the season. Well that's from an offensive standpoint.

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Speaker 1: What the Giants are seeing. I think what Antonio was

620
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 1: talking about is alec Ogil Tree and defense for the Giants,

621
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Speaker 1: right or not, the zone has been incorporated a little

622
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Speaker 1: bit more and that's why Tree. See. This is why

623
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Speaker 1: you don't look at an email asked by a fan,

624
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Speaker 1: because I honestly heard I was thinking, I was thinking

625
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Speaker 1: he was talking Beckham and he's talking ogal Tree. Well,

626
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Speaker 1: that's why it's good that one of the two of

627
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Speaker 1: us actually listened to the question. Yes, I see, I

628
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Speaker 1: got this email about Beckham and I wanted to make

629
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Speaker 1: sure I read it. I was sorry, but Paul, that

630
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: was a fantastic answer I made about how defensive defending?

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Speaker 1: Was that informative it all? Well, I was in for Okay,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, No, I'm gonna sit back. Listen. I'm just

633
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Speaker 1: a spectator at this segment, dying to know what you

634
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Speaker 1: think of alec Ogo Tree and his usage, whether it's

635
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Speaker 1: man to man or zone. In all seriousness, I do

636
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: see Antonio them utilizing him a little bit more within

637
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Speaker 1: his own but Betcher mixes a lot of things up,

638
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: and I think you could maybe point to the fact,

639
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: more often than not is he getting a takeaway when

640
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: they're in a zone setting. I think that's a fair synopsis.

641
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: So you know he you don't see him matched up

642
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: much in this last two or three games. I would

643
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: say on perhaps a running back or another wide receiver

644
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: as we've seen in the past, who may have had

645
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: an extra step because of speed on him. So I

646
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: do think Betcher has made adjustments to say, you know what,

647
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: alec Ogo Tree is a very smart player. He's a

648
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: key ingredient in the middle of our defense. But we've

649
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: got to do a better job not putting him in

650
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: precarious spots so that all of a sudden it plays

651
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: right into the hands of the offense. Now, sometimes only

652
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: you saw Tarik Cohen. Honestly, I don't think it really

653
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: would have mattered who the hell James Betcher put on

654
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: tarikoh And I think he's a very gifted and talented

655
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: player that he's probably gonna beat just about any safety

656
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: and linebacker you put on him. But in order to

657
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: protect yourself from those matchups, yes, you want to make

658
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: sure that you keep your playmakers like that in a

659
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: zone setting as opposed to man to man, and I

660
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: do think Ogile Tree has benefited from that a little bit,

661
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: if you'll let me, I do have one small thing

662
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: to offer. I talked to Harry Carson about this this morning,

663
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: because Harry, as you remember, originally was a middle linebacker

664
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: in a four three, then became an inside linebacker in

665
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: a three four after the Giants converted their defense, And

666
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: I asked him about Ogil Tree's development and what he

667
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: sees an Ogiltree from the start of the season until today.

668
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: He said to me, he absolutely positively believes that Ogiltree

669
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: is much more assertive, confident, and comfortable in the scheme

670
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: than the last month than he was earlier in the season.

671
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: He believed that Ogletree was thinking too much during the

672
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: first two months of the season and that's why he

673
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: was behind them. Yeah, but here was the situation with

674
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: the Rams. He was asked to do different things than

675
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: what That's why they traded him. He was a different

676
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: style of linebacker. They traded him because of two things.

677
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: Sali cap and they said he didn't fit their scheme. Okay,

678
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: so they traded him. The Giants figured, look, this is

679
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: a decent quality linebacker. We're happy to have him. We

680
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: don't really have anyone to play the position. Let's get

681
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: this guy. Well, Betcher figured he could do his things.

682
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: But Harry said to me he was thinking too much

683
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: the first two months of the season. I think now

684
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: he's playing much more naturally. And I'm not gonna argue

685
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: with Harry. If Harvin Carson tells me that's what he sees,

686
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: then I believe it well. And the other thing Antonio

687
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: before we let you continue. The other thing I wanted

688
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: to bring up. You mentioned the RAM scheme, but keep

689
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: in mind Alec Ogletree has been there for two coaching staffs.

690
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: Remember Jeff Fisher, then Sean McVeigh comes in Phillips replaces

691
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: the old defensive coordinator. So sometimes the way one coaching

692
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: staff looks at your value is a little bit different

693
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: than the second one. So even though yeah, you're right

694
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: the scheme resembles a little bit of the Giants, it

695
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: still was a turnover in terms of the coaching staff

696
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: in the scheme there. Yeah, no, I agree. And then

697
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: one one last timent that I want to say with

698
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: you guys is I feel personally that now that you know,

699
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate that Landon Collins is not playing. And he's

700
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: a great player, He's a great run defender. But I

701
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: feel like our secondary with now Thomas playing full time

702
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: and then we have uh Riley is in there as

703
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: free safety, but somebody else comes in um sometimes to

704
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: spell Thomas. I forgot, but I feel like we have

705
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: a better past defense now without Collins on the field,

706
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: and I really would like to see next year Ogletree

707
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: as the middle linebacker honestly, I want to see us

708
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: convert Landon Collins to a linebacker too, because it's just

709
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: like listen, he hits the holes so hard. I haven't

710
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: seen no, I haven't seen linebackers in the Giants hit

711
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: the whole like Landon Collins does. Here's when it comes

712
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: to coverages, I don't know, man. I think I think

713
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: that we just need to give up on that. That

714
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: Landon Collins is a good cover uh safety, I don't.

715
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't believe in that. Thank you, guys, I'll see

716
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: you guys off. Thank There are two points I need

717
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 1: to make about this. First of all, he's playing next

718
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: to Curtis Riley, and Curtis Riley has not always been

719
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: in the right position this year. He's not an accomplished,

720
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: experienced free safety. Okay, not at the highest caliber. He's

721
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: doing his best. He had to pick six the other day.

722
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: I get that, But I think Landon Collins would have

723
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: a better time if he was matched with a much

724
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: more accomplished safety. That's number one. Number two, if you

725
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: make Lendon Collins a linebacker, well he's not gonna play

726
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: middle linebacker. He's gonna have to play outside linebacker. Well,

727
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: what does that do. Now you're gonna stick him at

728
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: outside linebacker. That means he's going to be restricted based

729
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: sickly to one side of the field. That's a bad idea.

730
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: Landon Collins is at his best when he can roam

731
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: in the box and pick wherever he wants to go

732
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: to go chase down the ball, or to go make

733
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: a play, or to provide pressure. So as a safety,

734
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: when he comes down in the box, he's got the

735
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: freedom to go anywhere he wants from number to number.

736
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me now, all of a sudden, I

737
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: want to make Landon Collins a weak side linebacker. Well,

738
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: guess what his responsibility is going to be on that

739
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: side of the hash Marx, you're chopping off one of

740
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: his legs. To me, that would be a horrible move.

741
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: You're also going to have him engage with guys at

742
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage a little bit more correct, but

743
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: he will have to shed blockers more. Whereas then you

744
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: keep him on the backside, he has that freedom, to

745
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: your point, to roam around. I think what Antonio is

746
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: looking back at. And it's funny because James Betcher was

747
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: asked about this when he first took over his defensive coordinator, Paul.

748
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: When he was in Arizona, he had a guy by

749
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: the name of Daon Buchanan who was a safety, and

750
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: they moved Buchanan to linebacker. However, what's the biggest difference

751
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 1: between what Betcher was working with in Arizona versus here?

752
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 1: And this goes back to your Curtis Riley point. Paul,

753
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: he had a lot more experience at safety to say,

754
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: you know what, we can afford to move down to

755
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: exactly the Tyrann Matthew. He had a number of other

756
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: veterans that he can mix and match. When you don't

757
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: have that luxury and you take now your most versatile

758
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: safety out of the equation, you've got to make sure

759
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: you have other personnel to fill that void. And I

760
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: don't think right now the Giants have as deep of

761
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: a depth chart as the Cardinals did to make it

762
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: a little bit easier for Betcher to move Buchanan from

763
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: safety to linebacker. Let's head back to the phone lines

764
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: and we check in with Charlie in Portland, Maine. Charlie,

765
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: what's happening? Hey guys, Hey, Paul, what Mariota and you

766
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 1: definitely have you pulled your hair out and you must

767
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: have hit your head against the wall a couple of times. Well,

768
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: Josh Johnson did an number of things in the fourth

769
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:07,479
Speaker 1: quarter last weekend in Washington that would make you scream.

770
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: I know. James Betcher talked about it this morning. He said,

771
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: you know what, Uh, that's the kind of stuff that

772
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: Mariota is going to do and and he knows it.

773
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be the key discipline from the guys

774
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: up front when on third down you've got coverage and

775
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: then Mariota decides, you know what, I'm going to move

776
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: the sticks with my feet. You can't let that happen, Charlie,

777
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: Oh oh, I know. And we seem to have a

778
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 1: hard time with running quarterbacks. So that's that's gonna be

779
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: interesting to see to see what happens with that. And

780
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at this game thinking that, uh, we

781
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: can win it. We should be able to win it.

782
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: And the running back for the Titans who I forget

783
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: his name, Yeah, Henry. He runs really high, you know,

784
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: and I think the key to him, I think I

785
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: think he's a fumbler. Niece have a lot of fumbles,

786
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: like last year or the year before. I'll take a lot.

787
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: I think we'll have a chance to take some you know,

788
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: turnovers on him. And the key to him, like any

789
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: big back like Jacobs, and is to get him before

790
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: he gets started, you know, if we can get some penetration.

791
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: He's got two fumbles in his career and he's only

792
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: lost one. Yeah, so that would not be the case. No,

793
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: I guess the case is it? But he runs so high.

794
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: I think, you know, he looks like he would be

795
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: a fumbler. To me, he's a really cheap version of

796
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: Brandon Jacobs, to be honest with you. Yeah, really, I'm

797
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: not joking. That's the kind of guy he is. And

798
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: what he does really really well, Charlie. He doesn't have

799
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: great acceleration, he doesn't hit the hole with quickness, he

800
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: doesn't get up to speed very fast. But if they

801
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: can get him, and they've had a lot of trouble

802
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: the Titans line is that trouble with past protection, and

803
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: they've had trouble creating open lanes. But if he does

804
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: get an open lane, you saw what happened against Jacksonville.

805
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: Now that snowball starts going downhill, and now that big

806
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: guy picks up momentum and he has a nasty stiff

807
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: arm that will just toss you to the ground. Yeah, well,

808
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: the problem wasn't a guy like that. You need to

809
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: hit him the lolow remember that, boys, you know that

810
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: was their problem. They were they were going high and

811
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: that doesn't work. You can't tackle this guy, Ogletree told

812
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: me yesterday. If you arm tackle him, you're in big trouble.

813
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: What you gotta do is hit him head on. I

814
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: don't mean head onlines in the head, that would be

815
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: a penalty. Straight on. Hit him straight on enough to

816
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: get him slowed down and stopped momentarily so that the

817
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 1: second and third tackler has time to get over there

818
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: and swarm or else he's gonna give you a stiff

819
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: arm like he did in that long time and not

820
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: allowed to stiff over. Leverage is so important when you

821
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: try to bring down a guy like Derrick Henry and

822
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,959
Speaker 1: even Adrian Peterson, because to your point, Charlie, they're so

823
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: physically gifted just in terms of their meetup that one

824
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: guy trying to wrap him up is not going to

825
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: slow him down because he easily push off and you

826
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: lose leverage and then you're screwed. We've seen it time

827
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: and time again, Well, the kiece of this game is

828
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: like almost every other game. But we've got to be

829
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: able to stop their run, and we've got to be

830
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: able to run the ball. If we if we can

831
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: run the ball, if Barkley can run the ball, and

832
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: even if Barkley, if we can't run it, if we

833
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: can get the ball to Barkley on screens or just

834
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: passes instead of the run, which is fine with me.

835
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: But we've got to be able to do that. And

836
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: I think we'll win this game, and it's gonna and

837
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: we're going to be at home. There's some momentum going

838
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: and if Odell can happen to play too, that will

839
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: be wonderful. I just hope. Remember when we had a

840
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: couple of old Cruise was one and there was another

841
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: guy who had a calf injury and then they had

842
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: a blood caught behind it. I'm hoping that's not what's

843
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: going on with Odell. Knicks had that, Charlie cloth ke

844
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: Nicks had it, Remember how Keem Knicks. Oh yeah, Nick,

845
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, I thought, Charlie, let me just say one

846
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: thing about what you said a moment ago. Because the

847
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: Titans are stout up front, and because they don't miss tackles.

848
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: It's hard to get a lot of big plays against

849
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: this defense. So you know what, and I agree that

850
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: Barkley has got to be a featured part of this,

851
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: but don't expect that he's going to run off a

852
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: fourty or fifty yard run against these guys because they

853
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: are sound tacklers and a lot of what Barkley has

854
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 1: been able to do is in the open field. Yes,

855
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: but he's also able to make guys miss and shed guys.

856
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: That's not likely to happen against Tennessee. Yeah. Yeah, that's

857
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: why I think we need to get him the ball

858
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: in the passing game. And they've done a good job,

859
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: you know, but hey, let's go. We we just gotta

860
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: keep winning and we'll see what happens at the end

861
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: of the year when this is all said and done.

862
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: And I think Eli is going to have a big

863
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: game this week. Um. I just think he's gonna have

864
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: three touchdowns. And that's my prediction, al right, Charlie R.

865
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: Charlie appreciate the phone call. Well, he certainly played well

866
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: against the Washington Redskins with three touchdowns, so if they

867
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: established the run, they protect him. Those are the ingredients

868
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: of the Giants offense to be productive. Now, you brought

869
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 1: up the offensive line, Paul, and you're a hundred percent

870
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: right in terms of their past protection issues, and that's

871
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: something we didn't get into earlier. The Titans, much like

872
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: the Giants, have given up forty three sacks this season,

873
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: so both of those teams, who are playing each other,

874
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: tied for the third most sacks allowed in the National

875
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: Football League. Mariot has been sacked thirty nine times. Blaine Gabbert,

876
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: who has appeared in a few games, has been sacked

877
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: four times, so forty three sacks. They just lost their

878
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: starting right tackle for the year, Jack Conklin. He was

879
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: placed on ir this week with the knee injury. Dennis Kelly, though,

880
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: is a veteran who has filled in for him before,

881
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: so it's not like they're turning to a rookie to

882
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: fill the void. And you know, they've had a number

883
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: of other veterans on the interior of their offensive line,

884
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: but that unit has not reduced and executed at the

885
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: same level as they had in season's past. Because Tennessee

886
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: was in the conversation quietly with Pittsburgh and Dallas over

887
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: the last few years of being one of the most

888
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: solid offensive lines, and because of injuries and just the

889
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: inability to run the football consistently this season, they have

890
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: certainly dropped off a little bit in that department. Gee,

891
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: what a surprise, Lance when we heard that conversation. When

892
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: offensive lines play well, teams seem to win a lot

893
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: of games and can talk about the playoffs. Stunning. When

894
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: offensive lines don't play well, they don't win a lot

895
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: of games and their quarterback gets trashed. Very unique concept,

896
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: fascinated concept. I could have sworn that's been brought up

897
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: a few times this season on this very program. I

898
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: could be mistaken. We'll have to go back to the

899
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: archives to truly determine. But yeah, it's remarkable that. Also,

900
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: you don't hear Eli Manning put under the microscope much

901
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: now in these last five games, because like everything else

902
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: we talk about in life, specifically in sports, winning seems

903
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: to solve everything and quiet everybody. Uh. One thing I

904
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: want to point to your fans or point out to

905
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: your fans on Sunday when you're watching the game. Uh,

906
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: understand that Mike Rabel coming from the Belichick school of football,

907
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: being that he played for the Patriots and him for

908
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: a while he does believe in preparation, and he does

909
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 1: believe in creating confusion. So you will see a lot

910
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: of movement along the defensive line. They will stand guys up,

911
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: they will put guys down. They will have guys moving

912
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: and showing blitzst stunts and twists and guys backing out

913
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: and zone blitz is. He's gonna do as much as

914
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: he can to try to confuse you at the line

915
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Now, the good news for the Giant says

916
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: they've got Eli Manning at quarterback and this is one

917
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: of those weeks where his football acumen really pays off

918
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: because he should be able to decipher a lot of

919
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: what the Titans are going to try to throw at him.

920
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: And in jocot to Will Hernandez about it this week,

921
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: I said, well, you're a rookie offensive lineman. How much

922
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: of this concerns you that you could get thrown into

923
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: a tizzy or be overly concerned about the confusion that

924
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: the Titans front will try to cause you. And he said,

925
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: you know what, the more they do, the simpler we

926
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: have to keep it. And we just have to do

927
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: what Eli needs us to do, and that's it. I'm

928
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: told what to do, I do it and and execute,

929
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: and that's the best way to beat it. Let them

930
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: dance around all they want. You just have to stick

931
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: to your game plan and do what you do. And

932
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: I and I really believe that that's how the Giants

933
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: can neutralize a lot of the gamesmanship that you will

934
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: see along the defensive line of the Titans. Again, after all,

935
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: they're only allowing nineteen points a game, which is the

936
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: fourth viewist in the NFL. But yet the record is

937
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: only seven and six, Okay, so it's not like everything

938
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: they do is magical. I mean, if if that was

939
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: the case, they'd have only one loss, okay, or two losses. No,

940
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: there's seven and six. This is a team that can

941
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: clearly be beaten. But you just have to be disciplined

942
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: to know what to do. Um. I also want to

943
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: add one other thing, and that would be on offense.

944
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: The other day, and I don't know how many folks

945
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: read some of the papers, they actually did print something

946
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: real and truthful for a change. Sterling Shepard was given

947
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: a game ball after the Washington game because of his blocking.

948
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: He caught two passes with one touchdown from minimal yardage

949
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: and was presented with a game ball by coach Pat

950
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: Shermer because of how well he blocked down field, especially

951
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: on sat Kwan Barclay's runs. And I can't say enough

952
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: about how the Giants are now working so well together

953
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: in Unison. The tight ends, the full back Elijah Petty,

954
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: and the wide receivers, they are all becoming part of

955
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: this downfield blocking scheme to springs st Kwon bar Lee.

956
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: So I don't want to just praise the offensive line,

957
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: which we've done enough of during this show. I want

958
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: to make sure I give credit to the other guys too,

959
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: because they have also become a part of this equation.

960
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think it's a great point, Paul.

961
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: If you recall, while that seventy eight yard run was

962
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: great because s Kwon Barkley got into the end zone,

963
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: the fifty two yard run, Sterling hustles all the way

964
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: down the field. I mean, he could have easily said, hey,

965
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: you know what, Kwan is gonna do his thing. So

966
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: he hustles all the way up in the field. He

967
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: knocks over Josh Norman, and that gave because I went

968
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,479
Speaker 1: back and I looked at that play, Paul, I would

969
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: argue se Kwan picked up in extra twenty yards as

970
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: a result of that block. You could make that argument

971
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: for sure. I figured at least fifteen. To me, it

972
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 1: looked like twenty. Big fun what he did in at twenty.

973
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: I mean semantics here, but the point is those plays

974
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: do not get awards. They don't win popularity. No, but well,

975
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking about from a national scale. They don't show

976
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: up in the box score. But it's plays like that

977
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: that have made a difference in the second half of

978
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: the season. And it's not just Sterling. We've seen Odell

979
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: Beckham when he's been in games, Paul, I've seen him

980
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: take on guys at the line of scrimmage to help

981
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: the running backs. Russell Shepherd. Yeah, so this has been

982
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: an entire units worth of work, and Cody Latimer is

983
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: supposed to be really good at that, but because he's

984
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: been injured, we haven't really gotten an opportunity to see it.

985
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: And by the way, uh he told the writer the

986
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: other day he thinks he might be activated for the

987
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: final two games of the season, coming off the injured

988
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: reserve list. He would be the one guy who can

989
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: come back off of I R. Remember they allowed Jonathan

990
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: Stewart like that. He reverted, he didn't get activated. So

991
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, again, these are the kinds of things that

992
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: winning football teams do. And until you do that stuff,

993
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: and until you succeed, and until you learn how to

994
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: do these things, you're gonna be stuck in the mud.

995
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: And that's where the Giants have shown so much advancement.

996
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: And that's why these days this organization is feeling better

997
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: about where they're going. And here's another thing I want

998
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: to add to the conversation about blocking up the field

999
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: by the wide receivers. An individual who I don't think

1000
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: gets enough credit is wide receivers coach Tyke Tilbert. Paul

1001
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: number one, Denver was a very good run blocking team. Okay,

1002
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: they ran the ball effective, even going back to when

1003
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: Peyton was the quarterback, and you know, they won the

1004
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and he wasn't the paid in of old,

1005
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: but their wide receivers what they asked him to do.

1006
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: The Emmanuel Sanders, the Damerius Thomas is the world before

1007
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: he was traded to the Texans. And the reason I

1008
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: bring that up Tyke Talbert. Coincidentally, Paul addressed the media

1009
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: on Friday before the Redskins game and one of the

1010
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: things he talked about was he says, I love complimenting

1011
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: my players, but I don't get ultra excited about going

1012
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: back and watching a tremendous catch three times consecutively. But

1013
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: when I see a guy run up the field and

1014
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: he lays it all out and blocks effectively, I will

1015
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: go back and I will show the room that play

1016
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: will watch it four or five times consecutively. And he

1017
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: understands players love to be complimented. Listen. In life, individuals

1018
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: love to be complimented. So he's using that as a

1019
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: momentum way to sort of convince the guys, Hey, you

1020
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: know what, you could look flashy and great by hauling

1021
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: in the ball for a five yard catch or a touchdown, Paul,

1022
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: But you know what what's gonna get my attention in

1023
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: this room is if you hustle down the field and

1024
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: block and you see it's a widespread positive for the team.

1025
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's a coincidence. I think it's

1026
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: being emphasized in the classroom and the players are remembering

1027
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: it every time they're shooting up on Sundays, and I

1028
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: think that's important because if the coaches will recognize their

1029
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: players for those little things, the players are more apt

1030
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: to do it again. So that's another thing that I

1031
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: don't think should go unnoticed because assistant coaches in general

1032
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: usually get criticized when the players don't execute. However, they

1033
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: get very little pats on the back when their players

1034
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: execute to a t in a facet of this game

1035
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: that doesn't get a lot of attention weekend and week out.

1036
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: Two zero one, one three is the telephone number. He's

1037
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: pulled the team on land Mitt there's da should a

1038
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: biglue kick off live, Let's head back to the lines.

1039
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: Scott is in New Mexico. Scott, Welcome to board. What

1040
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: do you got for us? Hi, guys? How you doing

1041
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: today's I have a question that's totally off topic and

1042
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to get either of Europeans on it. The

1043
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: reference or the officiating that's going on in the league,

1044
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: especially this year, in my opinion, has been horrendous and

1045
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: worse than I've ever seen it in all my years

1046
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: of watching football, where referees have seen blatant calls and

1047
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 1: don't make them. It probably cost the Giants a game

1048
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: when Nodell Beckham was held in the end zone, and

1049
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm wondering from your perspective, either one of you if

1050
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: this is as bad as you've seen it, or am

1051
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: I making too much of it because it's been pervasive

1052
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: on almost and what most teams are are getting, in

1053
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: my opinion, really ripped off with the officials actually looking

1054
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: at calls and not making them. So I was wondering

1055
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: what your opinion on the officially in the league this

1056
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: year was and whether they'll be changed this next year. Well,

1057
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: I personally think you're making too much of it, Scott,

1058
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: because I could go back season and it season out,

1059
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: and I could show you frustrated fans from all parts

1060
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: of the fan base, not just necessarily Giants fans. I

1061
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: think officiating as the human element of the game. I've

1062
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: said this time and time again, and when you see

1063
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: things at full speed, it's a little bit more challenging

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00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: and it appears to be missing the obvious from the

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00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: fans perspective, who has the luxury of seeing instant replay.

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00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: I will say this, and and I'm usually very defensive

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00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: when it comes to officials because I just I understand

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00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: how challenging their job is. Scott. I think that all

1069
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: of us, myself included, I mean, we're all guilty of this.

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00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: You see a replay and you're like, oh my god,

1071
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 1: how did the guy miss that? But you know what,

1072
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: if you put on the Zebra shirt and you're seeing

1073
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: guys run full speed and you know they're commending, say

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00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley for setting the record for the fastest run

1075
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 1: and he's going twenty two miles per hour, there's gonna

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00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: be things you're gonna miss. So that's why personally, I

1077
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: think things tend to get blown out of proportion as

1078
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: are is what the league could do Listen, short of

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00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: continuing to train these individuals and have them watch videos

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00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: that they learned from their mistakes, I don't know what

1081
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: else you're gonna expect the officials to do unless you

1082
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: get to the point where there's more control from New

1083
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: York and you're stopping the game more consistently for them

1084
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,479
Speaker 1: to have control and look at replay. But then fans

1085
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: are gonna be irritated that that's gonna stop and go

1086
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: constantly during the games. There's not gonna be any momentum

1087
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna want to sit through all of

1088
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: those breaks. So I think it's really a catch twenty two.

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00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: From that perspective, Scott. I'm totally opposite Lance. I'm not

1090
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: very happy with the officiating around the league, and I

1091
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: haven't been for many years. I have suggested plans his

1092
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: way back as seven. I suggested a plan to George

1093
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: Young when he was VP of the NFL in football Operations,

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00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: to implement a recruiting policy to get better officiating. And

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00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: I gave him an entire plan of how to do

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00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: it and how to get better officials across the board

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00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Of course, it was ignored. Um, I'm

1098
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: not gonna get into the US now because it will

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00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: take another hour. What I will say to you is

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00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: this because of the quick stand of mediocrity, when you

1101
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: have about twenty teams in this league that are literally

1102
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 1: a player too away from winning or losing a game.

1103
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: Bad bounces, fluky plays, missed calls, and erroneous calls have

1104
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: impacted more wins and losses in the NFL this year

1105
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: than ever before in the league. And that's a shame

1106
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: because the games should be decided by the talent and

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00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: the quality of play on the field. And the bad

1108
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: news is too many final scores are being heavily influenced

1109
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: or decided by calls and non calls, and that's because

1110
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: these teams are so badly grouped together. There is such

1111
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 1: a stack of mediocrity that there aren't enough a really

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00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: good teams that can overcome all of these mistakes that

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00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: are being made as we legislate the game. Back in

1114
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: the eighties, I was talking to a bunch of Giants

1115
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: champions from the eighties six team, and they were like, sure,

1116
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: we might get get jobbed out of three or four

1117
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: calls a game, but we was so good we could

1118
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: still win. Well, that's the problem with today's NFL. There's

1119
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: so much mediocrity. Teams that get jipped on three or

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00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: four calls a week, they're not winning. They would lose well.

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00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: But at the same time, Tennessee, for example, which I

1122
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: think is relevant and we'll get that back to your points, guy,

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00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: Tennessee is the least penalized team, Paul, and they're covering

1124
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: around five hundreds. So it's true, even when you do

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00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: do your job effectively and the calls are not going

1126
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: against you, doesn't necessarily dictate wins and lasses. I will

1127
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: say this, Paul, and I cover the college game as well,

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00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: and I've seen tons of college games where I could

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00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: say there's easy calls that are missed too, So what's

1130
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: happening on the NFL level, Scott, I don't think it's

1131
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: also very different than the collegiate game. I remember the

1132
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: Alabama Georgia game, the SEC championship game. They missed the

1133
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: face masking call against TWA where he was held on

1134
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: his face. Mans This was before he went out the

1135
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: Alabama QB. So, once again, if you watch enough ball consistently,

1136
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: and I've been around a lot of football games, I

1137
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: don't see a huge disparity between what's going on in

1138
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: the NFL and the college level. So I just think,

1139
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: once again, it's the nature of the beast, that's a

1140
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: human element of the game. Final thought, Scott, I'll make

1141
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: this very quick. I'm also against Lance on replay. I

1142
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: would expand replay somehow, some way if I could, because

1143
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: I want the calls to be as right as possible. Well,

1144
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: and if I don't care if the game takes four

1145
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: hours to play on Sunday. If we can get the

1146
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: calls right and we can allow the talent of the

1147
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: players to decide the outcome more than some fruit piece

1148
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: of laundry, I'm all for it. Make the game four hours.

1149
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: I don't care. I want the game legislated correctly. Well,

1150
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: if you have the technology, you should be able to

1151
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: use it to benefit you. I was just saying the

1152
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: common argument is I don't agree with that argument, Paul,

1153
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: is that well it's gonna slow down the pace of

1154
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: the game. I'm with you. If you have the technology,

1155
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: I would like to see New York have much more influence,

1156
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: and they have increased the level of influence. If New

1157
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: York is seeing the game through various different lenses that

1158
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: the officials can I have no problem with New York

1159
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: calling down to the game and saying, hey, you know what,

1160
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: guys are gonna take another look at this play to

1161
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: get it right. I have no problem if they did that.

1162
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: That I think is from your question about changes, Scott,

1163
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: that I think is the most realistic change that the

1164
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: NFL can adopt. Empower New York. And I'm talking about

1165
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: the league office where they review everything, allow them to

1166
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: step in and make changes to games before the next

1167
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: play happened in Philadelphia when Odell Beckham Jr. Gets leg

1168
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: whipped on the final New York then everybody could see it.

1169
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: You're you're saying, have New York called down to Philadelphia

1170
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: and say, guys, hold on a second, there's an obvious

1171
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: leg whip on this last play. You got to mark off,

1172
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: no problem. Why can New York do that? They got

1173
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: the technology. So that's something I think perhaps the Competition

1174
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: Committee and any other committees that have to deal with

1175
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: officiating should discuss. We got one more call, Scott. We'd

1176
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: like to get him in. All right, Scott, thanks so

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00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: much for weighing in. I think it's a very fair

1178
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: question that Scott asked. No disagreement there, But once again,

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00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: I I think unless you put yourself in the shoes

1180
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: of an official, Paul, it's very easy to criticize when

1181
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: you're sitting on your couch and you have the luxury

1182
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: of instant replay. And I don't think enough people look

1183
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: at it through that way. And I'm not saying that

1184
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: officials shouldn't be held to high standards. Don't misinterpret that,

1185
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: but it's very different when you are sitting with screens

1186
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: in front of you, Paul, versus when you're seeing things

1187
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: at full speed. I don't disagree with that at all,

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00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: and that I think, and I have a lot of

1189
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: friends who are officials. By the way, I get along

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00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: great with the officials, which is ironic because I'm in

1191
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: the territory I'm always so critical of them, but I

1192
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: get along with them really, really well. I'm simply suggesting

1193
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: if there are ways to make things better, and if

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00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: expanding replay is one of the ways we can make

1195
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: things better, fine, I'm understanding that their job is next

1196
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: to impossible to do. I'm not saying that they are

1197
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: necessarily terrible at their job as much as I'm saying

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01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: that maybe that's the best they can do, and we

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01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: need to do something to help them out further, if

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01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: we can institute something that will assist them to do

1201
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: a better job, why shouldn't we try to improve it?

1202
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: And that should be the ultimate goal, and I think

1203
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: that was part of the question that Scott asked. And

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01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: aiding officials with technology and other eyes, I can only

1205
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: argue would help the game and not necessarily be a

1206
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: detriment to the game. So that's something that they could

1207
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: certainly look to further discuss moving forward. A reminder, Big

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Speaker 1: We have one more announcement to make sure it is

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Speaker 1: toys for chats On Sunday, the Giants so will be

1212
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: taking on the Tennessee Titans one o'clock kickoff. You're met

1213
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: live stadium. By all means if you have a new

1214
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: wrapped up toy and and and you could absolutely spare it.

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01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: There is always a child at the holidays who is

1216
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: not going to get a chance to unwrap a present.

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01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: And I've always said to myself, that's one of the

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01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: saddest things in the world that I can think about,

1219
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: because during the holidays, every child should have the opportunity

1220
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: to take off that wrapping paper and smile as widely

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01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: as they can and just thrill and and jump for

1222
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: joy and excitement over that new present that they just got.

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Speaker 1: So please the Giants and the Marine Corps are doing

1224
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: toys for Tots this Sunday, everyone who comes to the game.

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01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: It could be something so simple as a coloring book.

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Speaker 1: If you could just bring something new to the gates

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01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: to the Marines donated to Toys for Tots, you will

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01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: put smiles on children's faces throughout the metropolitan area. And

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01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: those smiles are worth a million dollars. See what you

1230
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: can do and just add to that, there's gonna be

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01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: Toyota collection vehicles located at each entrance to the stadium

1232
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 1: prior to Sunday's game, so that's what you should look

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01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: to if you do have the opportunity to bring some

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01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: unwrapped toys to the contest. Certainly appreciate everybody for tuning

1235
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: in here on Thursday's daition to Big LU Kickoff Live

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01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: will be up and running tomorrow again at one thirty

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Speaker 1: m Eastern, getting a set for the Giants and Titans

1238
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: for Paul Detina on Lance Meadow. Enjoy the rest of

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01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: your Thursday right here on giants dot com. Have a

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Speaker 1: go on