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Speaker 1: This is the Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. Hello everybody,

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Speaker 1: I'm Rich Truman, and you're listening to the Business of

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Speaker 1: and talk to some of the biggest players in the industry.

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Speaker 1: But not today, you're stuck with Bloomberg Intelligence is Damien

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Speaker 1: Sassaur and me. But the good news, Damon, we're talking

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Speaker 1: fantasy football, and Damon, before we go to Week fifteen,

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Speaker 1: we had to recap that wild Monday night game which

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Speaker 1: caps Week fourteen. The Ravens beating the Brown two held

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Speaker 1: certain importance to you and me because in our league

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Speaker 1: and knocked you out and my other league had knocked

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Speaker 1: me out. So we'll start with you. What happened? Well,

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Speaker 1: i'll tell you. You You know, when you pick Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: in the first second round of any fantasy draft heading

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Speaker 1: into one, would expect you have a lot more games

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Speaker 1: where he breaks thirty points. Right, Well, this is only

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Speaker 1: the third time this season he did that, and certainly

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Speaker 1: it was helpful, but it wasn't enough for me to

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Speaker 1: get at uh Michael Barr, who is now I believe

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Speaker 1: facing you in the semifinal round. Yes, and he's definitely

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Speaker 1: gonna beat me because I'm injury depleted and he's his

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Speaker 1: team is coming on at the right time. Um, and

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Speaker 1: my other league, I'll tell you what happened with me

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Speaker 1: started on the Thursday night game. I had cam Makers

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Speaker 1: who had a great game. My opponent had Cooper Cup

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Speaker 1: who barely saw the field. But when they had first

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Speaker 1: and goal with the half yard line, the Rams decided

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Speaker 1: to throw the ball a Cooper Cup for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: So that took my cam Makers touch on. So my league,

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Speaker 1: that was a twelve point swing. But still I was

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Speaker 1: in pretty good shape going into Monday night, even though

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Speaker 1: Chase Claypool did nothing for me. I had a lead,

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Speaker 1: I had j K. Dobbins going, my opponent had Kareem Hunt.

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Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt's touchdown with a minute ago got me the

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Speaker 1: big l So I got knocked out of that leak

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Speaker 1: so kind of annoying me. I'm still you know what

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Speaker 1: I have to I have to say. What's most interesting

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Speaker 1: if you just take a look back at at week fourteen,

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Speaker 1: is all these kind of no name quarterbacks that put

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Speaker 1: a big, big number, right. I mean, we had Drew Lock,

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Speaker 1: we had two Tago Viola, we had Mitski, all putting

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Speaker 1: up over thirty points on the week. I mean, so,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I doubt anyone really started them, but those

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Speaker 1: are guys you may want to take a look at

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Speaker 1: going into uh week fifteen here in week sixty next week.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if any of those guys can break out,

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Speaker 1: those are guys that can win you a Fantasy championship

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Speaker 1: for sure, Damien for the future. I'm just letting you

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Speaker 1: go with twa Okay, I do not have to pronounce

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Speaker 1: the last name. A couple of trends I wanted to

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Speaker 1: bring up with you and get your thoughts on. You know,

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Speaker 1: people say training camp doesn't matter, training camp doesn't matter,

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Speaker 1: but you know I did this year. If you look

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Speaker 1: at some running backs who are really starting to come on,

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Speaker 1: and specifically Cam Makers of the Rams, Jonathan Taylor of

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Speaker 1: the Colts, and j K. Dobbins of the Ravens, they

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Speaker 1: you know, for the first half of the season, they

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Speaker 1: really didn't do much fantasy wise, but the last three

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Speaker 1: or four weeks, all three of those guys, particularly Jonathan Taylor,

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Speaker 1: have really come on gangbusters. Yeah, let's say I Nick

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Speaker 1: Chubb and David Montgomery to that list, right. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: the reality is, if you're a Dolzen Cooker and Alvin

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Speaker 1: Kamara owner, you're probably in, you know, the playoffs, and

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Speaker 1: you're probably licking your chops here as we head into

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Speaker 1: week fifteen. But you know, I mean, the fact of

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Speaker 1: the matter is, if you just look back till last year,

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Speaker 1: this is a bit of a repeat. I mean, guys

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Speaker 1: like Derrick Henry and Miles and Sanders just going off

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Speaker 1: during the Fantasy football playoffs. I mean, so look, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if anyone's guests, who's gonna you know, put up the

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Speaker 1: points from week to week, and you know, one would

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Speaker 1: think getting those savorable matchups against teams like the Bengals

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Speaker 1: and the Jets are good for you. But at this

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Speaker 1: point in the season, you know you're benching your starters

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, right, I mean, that's what happened

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Speaker 1: against the Jets last week. So you know, all bets

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Speaker 1: are off. You have to find the right matchup, the

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Speaker 1: right player in that matchup whose poised to to take

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Speaker 1: manage to score throw four touchdowns in that game, you know,

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Speaker 1: you've brought up album Kamara and um, I was looking

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Speaker 1: at a couple of stats I wanted to run by you.

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Speaker 1: His production with Drew Brees is gone down dramatically. In

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Speaker 1: the nine game is that he had when Drew Brees

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Speaker 1: you can't deny the fact that having Michael Thomas back

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Speaker 1: is also having an impact, right. And another you always

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Speaker 1: goroof to me when I always talked about Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 1: but I had sent to you a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: I was a little concerned when Austin Ekeler came back

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Speaker 1: that his stats might go down. And let me throw

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Speaker 1: some more stats on you. Before Austin Ekeler came back,

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's points seven thirty eight, one twenty almost twenty

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Speaker 1: three weeks sixteen, four and fifteen. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: the exact reason why with that? It might be just

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Speaker 1: to Ekeler. But justin Herbert's value has gone down tremendously

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. But with that set, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go move on to Week fifteen. I do like him

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Speaker 1: in Thursday night's game against the Raiders. You know, you know, rich,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you a question, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: most of the waiver wire has been depleted. You know, guys,

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Speaker 1: you how do you get that win? How can your

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Speaker 1: waiver wire help you? Well, you know, I'm curious to

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Speaker 1: from defense and special teams, especially last week. I mean, Washington,

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Speaker 1: the Rams, Arizona, Chicago, Dallas all had better than eighteen

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Speaker 1: week sixteen for those of you that might make the championship,

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Speaker 1: you know, what defenses stand out to you? I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you think that you know there's a chance for

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Speaker 1: you to pick somebody up on waivers that can really

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Speaker 1: win you the week. You know. That's one point I

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Speaker 1: it up now, I'll go with it. One key way

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Speaker 1: if you look, there's some juicy mass up matchups for defenses. Uh,

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Speaker 1: of the key ways to try to win a championship

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Speaker 1: is to plan ahead. You can't just wait till next week.

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Speaker 1: You have to look right now. And if Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: for example, is available, which he might not be, he's

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Speaker 1: a good play in week sixteen because they're playing the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Shlon Hurts is playing the Cowboys, one of the worst

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Speaker 1: weeks six Yeah, No, I couldn't agree more Rich. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Baker put up thirty five plus points in each of

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Speaker 1: the last two games versus Tennessee in Baltimore. Those aren't

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Speaker 1: too shabby. Um, And so yeah, you know, with with

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Speaker 1: can definitely shine against the Jets in Week sixteen, for sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, let's shift to receiver here. I

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Speaker 1: mean the resurgence of Stefon Diggs. I mean Stefan when

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Speaker 1: much output he has put he has given his fantasy

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Speaker 1: And it's weird. That's right now, that looks like a

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Speaker 1: trade that's help both teams because, uh, the number one

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Speaker 1: ended up being justin Jefferson. It looks like a great

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Speaker 1: rookie wide receiver. But I agree with you, Diggs looked

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Speaker 1: fantastic today. It's funny that game Pittsburgh was dominating him

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Speaker 1: you know, Rich, I mean there are some guys out

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Speaker 1: And Jeff Wilson's out there in most weeks. I wonder

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Speaker 1: definitely a great pickup, especially the playing Dallas and talking

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Speaker 1: picked up Jeff Wilson just in case there was any

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Speaker 1: To me, Um, those are good pick up and Jeff Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to a couple of games in week fifteen,

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Speaker 1: uh Star with the Charges Raiders. I actually think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a very high scoring game. What's your opinion

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Speaker 1: on that one? Yeah, no, I think the over under

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Speaker 1: should be a very big, very high scoring game. Um.

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Speaker 1: New Orleans. That's going to be a high scoring affair

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Speaker 1: But Ryan Tannell's it could play. Aaron Rodgers at four

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