1 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Criminal illegals are doing something that I hate but is 2 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: also kind of a genius way of avoiding ice all 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: exploiting quote unquote sanctuary cities. Also the Biden pardons in 4 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: his last few weeks. Turns out he only actually signed 5 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: one himself. 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: Which one was it? Why was it just one? 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 3: It? 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: Also libs, you've got honest libs versus dishonest libs who 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: will win. Only time will tell all that more coming 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: up on this episode of Turning Points tonight. My name 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: is Joe Bob. Thanks so much for tuning in. 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: Together. 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. And 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: before we get into any of those stories, which are 15 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: obviously important, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: big elephant in the room, both metaphorically and also party 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: specific wise. 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: I guess the elephant. 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: The spat between President Trump and Elon munt I will 20 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: just say this, all of the punditry that has been around, 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: that has already been done. If you want a big, long, 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: nuanced conversation, I would recommend going and checking out the 23 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk Show, the show that he did last night, 24 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: the show that he did this morning. He was on 25 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: Laura Ingram last night. Anything from him great nuanced pointing 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: to discussion on the turmoil. 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: We'll say it. 28 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: It's turmoil going on between President Trump and Elon. If 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: I were to summarize it, I think he would say, 30 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, both men are trying to do best by 31 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: the American people, and this is kind of just part 32 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: of how that process gets done. The one thing that 33 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: I would like to point out that I think is 34 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: interesting that not a lot of people are talking about, 35 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: is the way of going about this. I think from 36 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: an attention standpoint, I think it should be said. And 37 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: obviously it's true the fact that the whole Epstein files 38 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: thing with President Trump is a non issue. It's not real, 39 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: it's not legit. So what's happening there. Here's my opinion, 40 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: and this is just me speaking personally. I think in 41 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: the last several years we have seen libs specifically go 42 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: to hyperbolic lengths to describe everything in order to get attention. 43 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is in the political 44 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: age that we currently live in, unfortunately, attention seems to 45 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: be king, and I think Elon, knowing that he wanted 46 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: more attention for his side of the big beautiful bill argument, 47 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: whatever that may be, whether you agree with him, whether 48 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: you disagree with him, he thought attention is the best 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: way to do it, so he decided to do something 50 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: that would get him that attention. Again, it's unfortunate. 51 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: You don't like to see. 52 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: People that we agree with on a lot of different 53 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: things fighting. But at the end of the day, you 54 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: know things will go forward, things will move on, and 55 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: things will get better, and both parties I think, want 56 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: the best for the American people as a whole. That 57 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: being said, let's get to a story that I think 58 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: is fascinating that it is happening, and also I hate it, 59 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: and also it's kind of brilliant. We're all familiar with 60 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: sanctuary city laws. Right if you have a sanctuary city 61 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: or a sanctuary state, the state or the local government 62 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: can't interact with federal immigration officers or enforcement. So what 63 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: then you see is that ICE is sitting outside of 64 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: a courtroom where a criminal illegal is participating in a 65 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: hearing inside for a local crime with a local judge 66 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: either a municipality or state level. Then after that court 67 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: proceeding is done, the illegal walks out of the courtroom 68 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: and then is swapped up by Ice. But what happens 69 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: if they avoid Ice by going to jail. That's what's 70 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: happening in New York City in several instances, and also 71 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: across sanctuary cities as a whole. 72 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: Criminal illegals who. 73 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: Would otherwise be let out onto the street and therefore 74 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: into ICE custodys are asking judges, Hey, can you put 75 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: me in jail? And by doing that, can you also 76 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: give me like a super low bail amount. So New 77 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: York City, a criminal asked a judge throw me at 78 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: Riker's Island, but then give me one hundred dollars bail. Okay, 79 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: Well what does that do? That means they don't exit 80 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: the courtroom through the courtroom doors and into ICE's custody. Instead, 81 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: they go to jail with the potential to leave any 82 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: time they want. Because it's one hundred bucks. Anybody can 83 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: pay that bail and immediately get out and hopefully, for 84 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: their sake, avoid getting scooped up by ICE because I 85 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe they're not outside Rikers Island at two 86 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. I hate it, but it's also 87 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: kind of a genius move, and the only way that 88 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: that evil genius move can be done is you have 89 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: idiotic and stupid sanctuary city and sanctuary state policies. Illegals 90 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: are exploiting the sanctuary city and sanctuary state policies in 91 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: order to go to jail to temporarily avoid ice and 92 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: then get out on a super low bail which they 93 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: don't care about losing and showing up for their next 94 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: court date. They don't care about that at all. They're 95 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: exploiting that system to evade immigration enforcement. Terrible and genius 96 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: and I hate it and it's exploitive, and it highlights 97 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: exactly why sanctuary policy is so disastrous and idiotic. Here 98 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: to comment on that and so much more. As host 99 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: of the Stephen Gardner Show, it's the man, myth and 100 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: relegiend himself, Stephen Gardner, this even thanks for joining. 101 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 4: Us, absolutely, thank you for having me on again. 102 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean your thoughts on this. 103 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: We've all thought that sanctuary policies are ridiculous. He it's 104 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: this stupid way of doing things. But you know, if 105 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: you're going to exploit stupid laws like this, this kind 106 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: of seems like an ingenious way. And although I hate 107 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: the fact that it's happening, I don't know how do 108 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: you get around this if you have. 109 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 2: These ridiculous sanctuary city policies. 110 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 4: I mean it's a pretty smart move, right, Like the 111 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 4: illegal criminals they figured, oh wait, I can stay at 112 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 4: the Roosevelt Hotel in New York for seven hundred dollars 113 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 4: a night and get three free meals now, and the 114 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 4: guy's going, wait a minute, I don't want to be 115 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 4: sent back to my own country. I can't even buy 116 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 4: food in New York for one hundred dollars a day. 117 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna go to jail. I'll make some new friends. 118 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 4: I'll get three square meals a day. I mean, it's 119 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: a pretty good workaround. In the end, I believe ICE 120 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 4: is going to get this guy and the rest of them. 121 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 4: The thing that was concerning to me, I don't know 122 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 4: if you saw this or not, but Hakeim Jeffries of 123 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: New York he's now saying that they're gonna start dosing 124 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 4: and exposing where some of these ICE agents live so 125 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 4: that these criminal gang members suddenly know where to go 126 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 4: kill somebody. I mean, like the stupidity coming out of 127 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 4: New York knows no bounds. 128 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 129 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: We played a video yesterday of the Boston Mayor I 130 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: believe her name is Michelle Woo, just a Marxist in 131 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: my opinion, saying why, well, why are they wearing masks 132 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: and talking about comparing them to neo Nazis by the way, 133 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: which is again horrible, And the the administration came out 134 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: and said, well, we're wearing masks because you guys are 135 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: doing exactly boxing people and making it dangerous for ICE 136 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: officials to you know, be just do their job. 137 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: Fortunately, in this particular case, in this New. 138 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: York case about this guy asking for one hundred dollars 139 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: bail that he could submit any time he wants, get 140 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: out whenever he wants, and evade Ice through the back door. 141 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: In his ideal situation. He also had a federal charge, 142 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: so I said, yeah, we're gonna pull him out of 143 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: jail anyway. So that that's good on this front, but 144 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: like I said, it's it is open for exploitation for 145 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: many other people in sanctuary citities across the country. In 146 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: other news, so we've all been talking about the Biden 147 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: auto pen and I'm sure you have thoughts about the 148 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: the fake signature from the President. Well, Pam Bondi in 149 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: the Justice Department is looking into the pardons that were signed. 150 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: Turns out, according to a Fox report, he only signed 151 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: one particular pardon in the last couple of weeks, and 152 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: that was Hunters, which okay, so he also pardoned Mark 153 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: milly Fauci a bunch of the January sixth people. What 154 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: does that mean to you that there was only one 155 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: pardon that he signed officially, I guess with his own hand. 156 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. 157 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: Does that mean that the rest are negated? Why did 158 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: he make that decision just that one? And is there 159 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: a difference in your opinion? 160 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 4: I mean, it may have been nostalgic. Hey, this is 161 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 4: my one and only son. I'm going to go ahead 162 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 4: and sign that. He may have also known Wait a minute, 163 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 4: just in case the rest of these don't hold up. 164 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm forgiving Chinese spies, pedophiles, rapists, rappers, all 165 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 4: kinds of people. I'm going to make sure that this 166 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 4: one is solid. So I'm going to sign it myself. 167 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 4: But I believe that Ed Martin is going to challenge these. 168 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 4: I believe that Pam Bondi is going to challenge these. 169 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 4: I'm really hoping. I mean, I saw that Cash Patel 170 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 4: was just on the Joe Rogan show, and he said 171 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 4: that they just found a bunch of information that doctor 172 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 4: Fauci was hiding and now the FBI is going to 173 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: be coming through all of that. So some of these 174 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 4: other names that received the fake mechanical autopen signature, I 175 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 4: would be lawyering up if it were me. 176 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you make a great point, like, hey, if 177 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: he thought, well I need to get this, make sure 178 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: this one, my son hunter, this one counts. 179 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: Okay? 180 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: Well, does that mean you think the other ones had 181 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: a potential of not counting because they were not autopen, 182 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: Like it's it's all open ended there. And you mentioned 183 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: Ed Martin, which is what interested great transition. By the way, 184 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: maybe maybe you should do a show or some kind. 185 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: But speaking of Ed Martin, the gal who spit in 186 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: his face will play you the video in just a 187 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: second was arrested, released on bail, and now Judge Janine 188 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: Piro is saying, hey, she should go back to jail 189 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: because of some one thing she did. 190 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: Watch this. 191 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: This was Ed Martin doing an interview with Newsmax and 192 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: he got spit in the face by a crazy lunatic. 193 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 6: And so we need to get really focused, how you know, Wow, oh. 194 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 5: Who. 195 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: Seems like an absolute peach there. Just what a joy 196 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: to be around. So this lady was released released from 197 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: jail on bond, but with the order and the contingency, well, 198 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: you can't contact ed Martin at all. She then in 199 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: the next couple of days tweeted some pretty nasty things 200 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: and I guess we don't have time to read it all, 201 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: but it basically says, f U, I can't provide for myself. 202 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: The city sees things because or the government seized things 203 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: because I'm being charged with assault, and f U f 204 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: U f U. On Twitter, Janine Piro, who replaced ed 205 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: Martin in his job as a US attorney, said, Hey, 206 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: hold on, you're violating. 207 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: Your bail here. 208 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: And I think this lives about to learn the hard 209 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: way that, hey, you can't act as if there are no. 210 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: Consequences for anything. 211 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, maybe this lady needs to be handcuffed 212 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 4: with the guy who figured out the loophole in New 213 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 4: York on going to jail right, just spend one hundred 214 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 4: days with him. It's amazing to me how people don't 215 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 4: believe in consequences. If you do something, there is consequences. 216 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 4: It could be a positive consequence, it could be a 217 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 4: negative one. But what do you think is going to 218 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 4: happen when you spit in the face of any attorney, 219 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 4: let alone the guy that was in the news being 220 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: touted as the person that could get things done in Washington, DC. 221 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 4: You now spit in his face and then say he's 222 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 4: the disgusting person. So a lot of these people they 223 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 4: want to escape consequence, but they still want to continue 224 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 4: to behave like terrible people. I think judge pirous wise 225 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 4: to try and go after this person. 226 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: Harsher. 227 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's anger, isn't an argument, Libs. Just because you're 228 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: angry doesn't mean you just get to do anything you 229 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: want and absolve yourself of any sort of wrongdoing. Stephen 230 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: Garden will be back after the break to discuss the 231 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: honest Libs versus the dishonest Libs, which I think is 232 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: a fascinating thing unfolding, as well as check in with 233 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: Monica Page at the White House. Don't go, It'll be 234 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: right back after the break. Welcome back to turning Point tonight. 235 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: We're together. We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. 236 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: My name is Joe Bob. Thanks so much for sticking 237 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: with us. Let's check in with White House correspondent Monica 238 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: Page at the White House, Monica, you know, obviously. 239 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: Slow last couple of days. 240 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: Not a lot going on at the White House, of course, 241 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: I kid, but you know, everybody in the world has 242 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: been talking about this freak out. It seemed if you 243 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: were on too much of the internet yesterday, the world 244 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: is burning down and all of this crazy stuff. Not 245 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: to say that any of that is good or anybody 246 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: wants to see sort of the infighting, but I guess 247 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, from your perspective they're at the White. 248 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: House, what is kind of the feeling or the mood. 249 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: Is it that the world is burning down, or you know, 250 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: it's an unfortunate situation you kind of move on from it. 251 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: What is it like there? 252 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, don't believe everything that you see and 253 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 5: read online, I think is what I would say, because 254 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 5: when I'm here at the White House on the grounds, 255 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 5: it's pretty quiet. It's not really the world is burning 256 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 5: It's not necessarily chaos like you'd see online or like 257 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 5: what the mainstream media is telling you. Actually, everything seemed 258 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 5: to be going on his business, President Trump leading off 259 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 5: the South lawn right and as we speak around three 260 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 5: pm Eastern time, right on schedule, doing all the things 261 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 5: that he was supposed to do today, swearing in the 262 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 5: new Secretary of the Navy, signing an executive order, and 263 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 5: heading off to Bedminster this weekend. So it's almost as 264 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 5: if you would never even I know this was happening here. 265 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 5: We haven't really seen many members of his administration coming 266 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 5: up and down Pebble Beach. We haven't necessarily seen members 267 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 5: of the press corps app here as far as inside 268 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 5: the White House Press Corps that is, like some of 269 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 5: the Caroline Lovitt or any of the other press members 270 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 5: in there, which I assume they're pretty busy on the inside. 271 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 5: So I mean, you would never guess that it's as 272 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 5: chaotic as it all seems online. But definitely don't believe 273 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 5: everything that you see online because you would believe that 274 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 5: it's the end times, and it's certainly not feeling that 275 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 5: way here. 276 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: In a certain way. 277 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: Just because the Libs had a field day yesterday with 278 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: all of this, just kind of going on business as 279 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: usual seems like the best way to push back on 280 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: their like exuberance that they had, just like, yeah, you know, 281 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: they disagreements happen. We're adults. We move on and you know, 282 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: we're still got to get to the work done for 283 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: the American peoples. That's what seems like's going like it's 284 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: going on there, and that's kind of seems like that's 285 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: your take on it as well, being there on the ground, 286 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, speaking of the accomplishments, I guess there's job 287 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: numbers out. The job numbers not exactly the best, but 288 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: they did beat expectations. Can you tell us more about that. 289 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, first week of the month, which means that we 290 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 5: get the previous month's job report and it's one hundred 291 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 5: and thirty nine thousand new jobs created of the month 292 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 5: of May. Of course, four point two percent is the 293 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 5: unemployment rate kind of staying stagnant there. Ninety eight percent, 294 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 5: ninety nine to ninety eight percent of all new jobs 295 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 5: were created in the private sector, so we're not seeing 296 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 5: any of those government jobs. And those who are accounting 297 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 5: for these jobs are native born Americans, which is a 298 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 5: very positive situation there. So it's great to hear this 299 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 5: job support definitely exceeding expectations, like you just mentioned, So 300 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 5: the economy is looking great. President Trump posting on truth 301 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 5: Social today that America is quote hot and we are 302 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 5: not as ice cold as we once were under the 303 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 5: Biden administration. So it's a positive sign here at the 304 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 5: White House. 305 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: Still, yeah, it also is interesting too. Just I said 306 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: not the best, but it didn't mean like bad. It's 307 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: it's the headlines were well, they weren't as high as 308 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: last months, but they also beat expectations. And depends where 309 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: you're reading stuff, that's where you get this whole convoluted messaging. 310 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: But they did beat expectations this past month. Monica Page 311 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: turning Points, White House Correspondent, thanks so much for taking 312 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: the time and have a great weekend. 313 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 5: Thanks, Joe, Bob have a great weekend too. 314 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: Thank you. 315 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: Speaking of internal drama, it's not just it's not just 316 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: our side currently at the moment, it's well, it's massive 317 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: on the LIB side of the aisle, and it's been 318 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: going on at a much greater length and a much 319 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: higher level than I think anything that we've seen. Libs 320 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: are at each other's throats on how to regain the 321 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: confidence of the American people. I wish for their failure, 322 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: but you know, you never know, maybe they'll pull it together. 323 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: Part of the people that are trying to pull together 324 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: are libs that I happen to disagree with you probably 325 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: happen to disagree with as well, but at least are 326 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: honest and fair in their assessments. 327 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: And then there's the other. 328 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: Libs that just lie about everything. Well, two of those 329 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: people clash Charlemagne the God. Maybe you don't like him, 330 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: I at least think that he's trying to be fair. 331 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: He's kind of like a Bill Maher type of person. 332 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: And then Eric Swalwell, who is just a general liar, 333 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: the Congressman Fang Fang as I affectionately call him sometimes 334 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: watch this back and forth and then clip from uh 335 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: the show that they had. Let's bring Stephen Gardner back 336 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: in our guests for today, Steven, I want to play 337 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: this clip from Charlotte and the God and Eric Swalwell, 338 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: and then what charle Man said after that interview on 339 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: a podcast. 340 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: Watched this not I just finished reading the original sin. 341 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 7: So when I hate you talking, I'm like, well, what 342 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 7: was the Democrats excuse when they chose to be accomplices 343 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 7: in the cover up of bid this physical and mental decline? 344 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 7: It's the same thing y'all did to say, y'all got 345 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 7: on television and pretended to act like everything was fine. 346 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 7: Knowing behind the scenes. He was not the one. 347 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: I don't think many of us were behind the scenes. 348 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: Don't believe. 349 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't spend much time with President Biden 350 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: behind the scenes. 351 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: I wasn't. 352 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 7: I didn't spend no time with him at all. 353 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 2: But you saw you had your two eyes. 354 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 3: I got it, I got it. 355 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 7: Anybody that wants to be the future of the party 356 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 7: have to throw the bike in under the bus. Now, wow, 357 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 7: Eric and all of these guys will be like, well, 358 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 7: we didn't know. 359 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 3: You've got to cut it the. 360 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: At your job to know, aren't you journalists? 361 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 6: The actually around. 362 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: Him, Stephen, I think the biggest contention is, okay, well, 363 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: if you didn't know, how did I know? I am 364 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: not a congressman, I am not of the president's party, 365 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: and I and everyone around me knew. 366 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: How did that happen? 367 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: And what are your thoughts here on kind of the 368 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: semi honest libs versus the crazy just lying their pants 369 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: off libs. 370 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I like Charlemagne, the God. He and I 371 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 4: agree on very little, but I appreciate his authenticity and 372 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 4: his truthfulness. 373 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: He just said it right there. 374 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 4: If you want to be a future part of this party, 375 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 4: you've got to tell the truth. You can't keep being 376 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 4: a part of the cover up. I've been saying that 377 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 4: Biden was cognitively declined since the summer of twenty twenty. 378 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 4: Eric Swalwell has continued to pretend that he was a 379 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 4: mental gymnast, that he was a genius, that he was 380 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 4: Elon Musk was sitting at his feet receiving wisdom right 381 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 4: like pearls of wisdom were dripping out of his mouth. 382 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 4: It was just the opposite of that. And so I 383 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 4: think Charlemagne and his co host are saying, listen, if 384 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 4: you're this intelligent member of Congress with all this inside information, 385 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 4: how did somebody like me see that you guys were 386 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 4: lying that this guy was mentally deficient. That's a really 387 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 4: big deal. So I say kudos to him for calling 388 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 4: this guy out and telling the truth. 389 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: Charlemne at the beginning of that clip said, he just 390 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: finished Original Sin. 391 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: Do you buy that? 392 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: Do you think he actually read the entire book? I'm 393 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: just curious of your opinion. 394 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: So he may have had an assistant read it and 395 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 4: highlight the major parts and then hand that over to him. 396 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 4: That is something that I know some people do, but 397 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 4: I mean he could also just be watching Jake Tapper 398 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 4: make a fool of himself going around saying even I 399 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,239 Speaker 4: didn't see it, Like, you guys were part of the 400 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 4: cover up. How did you not see it? So on 401 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 4: the one hand, they either have to look stupid or 402 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 4: they have to lie, and it looks like they prefer 403 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 4: to lean into looking stupid instead of being called a liar. 404 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 4: But I mean, Charlemagne, the God, this is the same 405 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 4: person that Joe Biden said, if you don't vote Democrat, 406 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 4: then you ain't black, Like, what does my skin color 407 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 4: have to do with participating in lying? So it's disrespectful. 408 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 4: Kudos to Charlemagne for calling Eric Swalwell. 409 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 2: To the carpet. 410 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's I have so many thoughts on how I 411 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: would like the Libs to proceed, and part of that, though, 412 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: is elevating the dumber in their party to the highest levels. 413 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: The more we get Eric Swalwell, Jasmine Crockett aoc to 414 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: just talk, the easier it makes our job of convincing 415 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: people the conservative values as the way to go. 416 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: So I don't keep trying, you'll get there eventually. 417 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: Speaking of you know things that the federal government is doing, 418 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: there's a there was a bill that got passed bipartisan 419 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: ish to ban TikTok. President Trump is likely set according 420 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: to I believe the New York Post and a bunch 421 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: of Wall Street officials that are working on buying TikTok's 422 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: believe the President Trump is going to delay the deadline 423 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: yet again, what do you think the kind of future 424 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: of TikTok is going to be, especially now with the 425 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: China tariffs the fact that Ji Jijiping and President Trump 426 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: are in communication. Now, what do you kind of see 427 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: is the trajectory of TikTok by law being sold to 428 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 1: an American company? 429 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 4: Well, I think you have a couple of things going 430 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 4: on behind the scenes. 431 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 2: So let me just. 432 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 4: Throw this out there. You've got President Trump who believes 433 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 4: that TikTok led to him capturing more of the youth 434 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 4: vote younger adult vote than he would have got. So 435 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 4: on the one hand, he's kind of partial towards it. 436 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 4: That's he's got a piece of his heart Baron Trump 437 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 4: likes that. On the other hand, you have members of Congress. 438 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 4: They've got most of their retirement inside of Facebook, and 439 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: so there's this internal battle of if I can get 440 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 4: rid of TikTok. It boosts Facebook and my stock portfolio 441 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 4: goes up, and then you've got the sitting president going, hey, 442 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 4: I kind of like this. 443 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 2: It's fun. 444 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 4: Maybe it's not a Chinese spy tool, so it'll be 445 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 4: really interesting. My guess is they're gonna kick the road, 446 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 4: kick the can down the road, and they're just gonna 447 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 4: give it another seventy five to ninety days. 448 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's probably the most likely thing that's 449 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: going to happen. Interesting, kind of fun fact, and I'm 450 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: curious if this surprises you at all. To my understanding, 451 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: during the election, there were two Trump tiktoks that had 452 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: TikTok accounts that were like the biggest in the world, 453 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: and then number three was Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk beat 454 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: out Taylor Swift Kim Kardashian as the number three during 455 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: the election cycle, which in my opinion, I think drove 456 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: a lot of younger voters to the polls for President Trump. 457 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: But I was a shocking thing that I learned that 458 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's fascinating. 459 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 4: I don't know how Charlie Kirk is able to stay 460 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 4: on there. I've been kicked off TikTok twice for being 461 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 4: a bully. They said that I, Steven Gardner bullied CNN, 462 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 4: the news network, for saying, how dare you guys say 463 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 4: that inflation isn't affecting my wallet? It's my wallet, And 464 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 4: then I got accused of being a bully to CNN. 465 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: You know, in their defense, I think you have probably 466 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: quadrupled the viewerships. 467 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 4: So you know, there is that Ann sent in a note. 468 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 4: They're like, hey, this guy's doing better than us in 469 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 4: his basement on a broken iPhone. We got to shut 470 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 4: it down. 471 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. I couldn't see that happening because, yeah, legacy media 472 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: is dying and CNN is taking themselves. 473 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: Their own grave. 474 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: So maybe maybe it was bullying because you are substantially 475 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: a bigger platform than than the Airport News. Stephen Gardner 476 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: Host and Stephen Gardner Show, Thank you so much for 477 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time. 478 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely thank you. 479 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: Coming up next a fascinating clip from Alex Corsh Culture 480 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: Apothecary podcast. All That Next, Don't Go Away. 481 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 8: What is one of the weirdest causes of acne that 482 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 8: you've discovered in one of your clients. 483 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 9: Sometimes people will come to me, and they'll be like, 484 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 9: I eat so healthy, I don't understand why I still 485 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 9: have acne. And they're eating things like oatmeal and asai 486 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 9: bowls and all sorts of like whole foods, but foods 487 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 9: that are mostly carbohydrates, and they're not eating enough protein 488 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 9: or healthy fat, and so they're blood sugars and balanced. 489 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 9: So even though these are healthy foods, the order in 490 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 9: which they're eating them, or what the whole meal looks 491 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 9: like their blood sugar is them balanced. 492 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 8: So how important is the amount of protein somebody struggling 493 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 8: with acnees eating or the amount of fat that they 494 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 8: include in every meal. 495 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 9: It is important that you have a balance plate one 496 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 9: hundred percent because we need we need everything. We need protein, 497 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 9: we need carbohydrates, we need healthy fat, whole carbohydrates. So 498 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 9: it's really important. I know now we tend to get 499 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 9: caught up on one macro nutrient, like everything's protein, protein protein. 500 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 9: We also need fiber, especially for anyone with hormonal acne, 501 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 9: but everyone in general needs fiber. We need to keep 502 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 9: our bowel movements regular. We need vegetables. They have a 503 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 9: wide abundance of nutrients antioxidants, so we need everything on 504 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 9: our plate. It needs to be balanced. 505 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 8: Sometimes during my luteal phase, I will get like one 506 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 8: super painful pimple, like deep under my skin that I 507 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 8: can never pop. It just has to go away on 508 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 8: its own overtime. 509 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 10: Why does that happen? 510 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 9: Every woman's hormones are fluctuating during her period, But why 511 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 9: do some women get luteal breakouts or period breakouts and 512 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 9: some people don't. It's the way that our body is 513 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 9: dealing or processing with the hormones, and so it could 514 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 9: be a constipation thing. It could also be a liver 515 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 9: thing if the body is not breaking down the hormones efficiently. 516 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 9: Sometimes our liver can get sluggish from modern life, so 517 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 9: that could be that could be part of the reason 518 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 9: the gut and the liver. I would look. 519 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 8: There first, But doing like liver support maybe sometimes during 520 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 8: it would be helpful. 521 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 9: Yew Okay, I like that tip. 522 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 8: Is skin purging normal or is that just a myth 523 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 8: that skincare brands use to explain breakouts? 524 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 525 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 9: I don't think we need to purge. I'm all about gentle. 526 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 9: I think the gentler the better. When I was breaking 527 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 9: out really bad, it was really popular to use things 528 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 9: like the Saint I've scrubs and all these very harsh 529 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 9: acids and things. 530 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,959 Speaker 8: To do that Apricot scrub it was like scrubbing your 531 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 8: face with glass sharks, and that was so bad to 532 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 8: that if you'd actne, it was tearing open your. 533 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 9: Act disaster, absolute disaster. My philosophy is if we use 534 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 9: gentle products on the outside, and we use our diet 535 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 9: and lifestyle to do the heavy lifting from the inside, 536 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 9: you don't need to purge your acne. Doesn't need to 537 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 9: get worse before it gets better. It could just get better. 538 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 8: Is face mapping for acne actually accurate or is that 539 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 8: a gimmick? 540 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 9: So face mapping comes from traditional Chinese medicine, and I 541 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 9: will say I really like Chinese medicine. It's thousands of 542 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 9: years old. They really study the entire body and how 543 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 9: everything kind of works together. And there are no studies 544 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 9: that have actually looked at face mapping to see is 545 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 9: this accurate or not accurate, So we don't know for sure. 546 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 9: Face mapping is a good tool, like it's a good 547 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 9: starting point to start looking under and start seeing the 548 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 9: connection between things like your gut or your hormones or 549 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 9: your liver and your skin. But whether your acne is 550 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 9: hormonal or whatever it is. Typically your gut is going 551 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 9: to be the foundational piece that you need to fix first. 552 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 8: What is your opinion on using beef tallow or castor 553 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 8: oil on acne prone skin? 554 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 9: Castor oil love, castor oil is amazing. Beef tallow acne 555 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 9: prone skin, you need to be careful with it can cog. 556 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 9: Everyone's different, So beef tallow is great for some people, 557 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 9: but those with acne prone skin you want to tread carefully. 558 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 8: Can making out with your significant other cause breakouts? 559 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 9: If he has a beard and scratching you and gotta 560 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 9: things are getting hot and heavy, It's possible. It is 561 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 9: definitely possible. He's irritating the skin, Okay, so tell him 562 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 9: to shave. 563 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 10: And maybe saliva and stuff. 564 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 9: Oral care, I feel like, is the new gut care. 565 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 4: Right. 566 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 9: Everyone's obsessed with gut health, which is really important, But 567 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 9: soon more and more you're going to see people are 568 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 9: going to become obsessed with oral health. Why because first 569 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 9: of all, our digestion, our gut microbio. It's starting in 570 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 9: our mouth, and whatever bacteria you have in your mouth, 571 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 9: you're swallowing and it's going into your guts. You want 572 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 9: to make sure everything's clean in here. This can be 573 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 9: a source of information. Dude, flossing, Yeah, you have to 574 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 9: do it. 575 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 10: You've got a flaw, you got a fla. 576 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 8: I know that annoys everybody when you're your dental hygienesis 577 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 8: asking you. It is such a real thing. It's one 578 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 8: of the best things when I got like super disciplined 579 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 8: on making sure I floss every single day, yeah, because 580 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 8: we all like, I feel like people are just not 581 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 8: doing that. But yeah, when I started doing that, oh 582 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 8: my gosh, the inflammation in my body just tenfolds so 583 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 8: much better. 584 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 9: Yes, So your question before about what's the craziest thing 585 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 9: that's triggering acne poor dental health? Whoa, Yes, because that 586 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 9: can be a sneaky source of inflammation. So if you 587 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 9: have bleeding gums, you have inflammation. And the thing with 588 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 9: any sort of inflammation that's coming from your mouth like that, 589 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 9: it's traveling, it's going into your bloodstream, so you're getting 590 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 9: body wide inflammation. 591 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 10: Is it ever okay to pop a pimple or do 592 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 10: we always have to leave them alone? 593 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 9: It depends on the type of pimple. 594 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't understand this camp 595 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 8: of never ever pop a pimple. If it is a 596 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 8: white head. 597 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 9: Pop, have to do it, Yes, especially if you're going 598 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 9: on a date or something. Yes, yeah, you can totally 599 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 9: pop it, but you've got to do it properly. So 600 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 9: you need to first make sure that it's a white 601 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 9: head and make sure it's there. Do not try this 602 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 9: with a cyst. It's going to just be a disaster. 603 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 9: Those ones that are under the skin. Don't try it. 604 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 9: Take a hot shower, make sure your hands are clean, 605 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 9: Put two tissues, and lightly press on the side of it. 606 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 9: Don't push in, you just want to press the side 607 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 9: so that it pop out. 608 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 8: What is your opinion on washing your face in the morning. 609 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 8: Is it necessary? 610 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 9: No way, No, we don't need to wash our face 611 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 9: in the morning. You didn't do anything to make it 612 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 9: dirty overnight, so your face is clean. You don't want 613 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 9: to overwash because that just strips away all of the 614 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 9: good stuff that our skin needs. 615 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 10: What about this new trend of double cleansing. 616 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 9: So double cleansing could be okay at the end of 617 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 9: the day if you have makeup on and you're using 618 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 9: like an oil cleanser as well, I think that's totally fine. 619 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 8: I'm using my solar water to take all my makeup off, 620 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 8: and then I cleansed twice with my cleanser. 621 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 9: As long as your skin doesn't feel dry afterwards. You 622 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 9: know how sometimes when you wash your face and then 623 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 9: your skin feels tight, that cleanser is too drying for 624 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 9: you. Your skin should not feel tight after washing. Do you 625 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 9: think that everybody needs to be washing their face with 626 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 9: filtered water? So either having a filter system or using 627 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 9: bottled water to wash their face with, no, not necessarily, 628 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 9: so you're fine with tap? I think yes. 629 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 8: Okay, I've heard other estheticians say things like, you know 630 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 8: it needs to be filtered or needs to be bottled water. 631 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 9: My opinion is that acne is really coming from the inside. 632 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 9: And I'm not talking about a cometogenic product that causes 633 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 9: a pimple. I'm talking about chronic acne that's coming from 634 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 9: the inside. It's best treated from the inside. So is 635 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 9: it nice to use filtered water? One hundred percent? But 636 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 9: do you have to know? I think what's going to 637 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 9: move the needle the most is focusing on the inflammation 638 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 9: from the inside. 639 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 8: Do you think luxury skincare products are definitely better than 640 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 8: drug store. 641 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 9: Yes, because I'm a big fan of using really simple 642 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 9: natural ingredients. I don't think we need a ton of ingredients. 643 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 9: And when you go to the drug store, they're not 644 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 9: really selling anything natural or that have just minimal ingredients. 645 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 9: So I'm a fan of just using minimal ingredients. 646 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 8: If somebody had one hundred dollars to spend on skincare, yeah, 647 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 8: what products and brands are a definite must in your 648 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 8: opinion if they struggle with acne? 649 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 9: Okay, I would say, first and foremost, go to whole 650 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 9: foods and spend your money on food first. 651 00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 4: Yep. 652 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 9: But if we have to talk skincare, and then I 653 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 9: would say I really like probiotic skincare. So there are 654 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 9: a few probiotic cleansers that I find are really gentle 655 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 9: on the skin, Like Eminence Organics makes a really nice 656 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 9: probatic cloud. 657 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 10: I love Eminence Organics. 658 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, Eminince Organics is really nice. They make a lot 659 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 9: of really great products, so I like that. Cobo Essentials 660 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 9: is another brand that makes very gentle skincare. They have 661 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 9: a probatic and tumeric cleanser that I really like is 662 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 9: really nice, and t tree oil is a must have 663 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 9: if you have acne. Pure one hundred percent t Tree 664 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 9: essential oil. It is gentle enough to use on the skin. 665 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 9: You can use it as a spot treatment on your acne. 666 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 9: It helps reduce inflammation and if you popped it, it 667 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 9: will help to prevent any infection. 668 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 8: What makeup in skincare brands for agne prone skin do 669 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 8: you like? 670 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 9: For clean beauty, I really like Alia, I like Lawless. 671 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 9: I like RMS beauty is really good. But for coverage, 672 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 9: if you have bad acne and you have scarring and 673 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 9: active breakouts, sometimes these brands don't cover really well. So 674 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 9: I also like it Cosmetics. I feel like they have 675 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 9: good coverage. 676 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 8: And Charlotte Tilbury as well is a dermatologist actually the 677 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 8: right person to see when you have persistent acne. 678 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 9: I think the first place to start is with the 679 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 9: nutritionist one hundred percent because acne is really diet and 680 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 9: lifestyle related. You can send any person to me with acne, 681 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 9: and I promise you I will find the diet and 682 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 9: lifestyle root cause I've been doing this for like two 683 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 9: decades at this point, and acne is coming from the gut, 684 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 9: is coming from our diet, It's coming from stress, It's 685 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 9: coming from our diet and lifestyle. And that is the 686 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 9: only way to fix it. 687 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 7: Immediately. 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You 723 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: can find out about all of that stuff everything Turning 724 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: Point is doing, which is more than literally any other 725 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: organization at least in my opinion, in terms of making 726 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 1: a dent and turning the conservative values onto the American people. 727 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: You can also email the show anytime you want TBT 728 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: at TPUSA dot com. We love reading every single one 729 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,479 Speaker 1: of your emails. There's a bunch that I so sorry. 730 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: I feel like I should have gotten to a lot 731 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: of praise. Really appreciate that from folks that watch the show. 732 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 1: And I really enjoy what we're doing here. We're hoping 733 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: to make people laugh a little bit, have a little 734 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: bit of lighter heart to take, and that's what has 735 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: been said an emails, and I really appreciate you doing that. 736 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: So tpt at tpusa dot com. You can email whether 737 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: you agree or whether you're wrong, any email you want, 738 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: TBT at tpusa dot com. It is Friday, so we're 739 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: gonna have some fun. I thought this video. 740 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 2: Was I don't know. 741 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how to feel about it. It is Friday, 742 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 1: Fun Friday. We're gonna have some fun. And there's there's 743 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: a lot of nuance going on here. But in some 744 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: ways this is sad. Some ways it's a little bit humorous. 745 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: But this is a mom filming filming her gen Z 746 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: daughter in the car talking about bills and expenses and 747 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: credit cards. It's sad but also a learning point. 748 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 2: Watch this. Yeah, we'll discuss what did you just say? 749 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 9: Why does it say pay it? 750 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 5: No? 751 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 9: Why did you what did you say? If one can 752 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 9: pay it? 753 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 11: Because that means you have to pay for that. She's 754 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 11: looking at her American Express bill and under charges it 755 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 11: says like pay it, like you can pay that on 756 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 11: your American Express pay it And she said, why does 757 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 11: it say pay it under this? And I'm like, so 758 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 11: you could pay that like you would hit pay it 759 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 11: and you pay that and she said, why does it 760 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 11: say that on mine? That's not my responsibility, but like, 761 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 11: I already bought it. 762 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 9: Why would I have to pay for it again? 763 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 11: And you're not paying for it again. You're paying because 764 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 11: you pay for it on a credit card. But the 765 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 11: credit card is like unlimited, right, I'm so curiously Actually 766 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 11: it's unlimited, but you have to pay that bill. 767 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 9: Yes, but I already bought it. 768 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 11: No, you're not paying for it twice. 769 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 9: You're help. 770 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 2: I don't get it. 771 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Dave Ramsey somewhere is pulling his hair out if 772 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: you had. Harry's probably banging his head against the wall. 773 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 1: Caleb Hammond is probably pulling his hair out because he's 774 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: got hair again. No, and I just think that's always funny. 775 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: So okay, first things first, Oh my gosh, unbelievable that 776 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: this has to be a conversation with no, no, No, 777 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: you didn't pay for it, so you're not paying for 778 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: it again, you just never paid for it, and the 779 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: whole idea of like, it's not my problem, ooh, the entitlement. 780 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: Having said that, kids did not raise themselves, and you're 781 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: looking at probably the culpritgain not necessarily trying to throw 782 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: this mom under the bus. 783 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 2: But at the same time, if that's. 784 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 1: Your daughter, maybe you had the discussion of how money 785 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: works beforehand. 786 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 2: And I understand that this could be a learning lesson. 787 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: I understand it's well, it's interesting for people to see 788 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: that sort of thing in real time and engage with it. 789 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 1: And also, I don't know, it's somewhat of the responsibility 790 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: of the parent who teach kids how to spend money appropriately. 791 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that's that. Uh, let's end. Let's 792 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: end the week with some fun. Watch. Watch. 793 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: I love that this is happening, and I find somebody 794 00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: send me a link where I can buy one of 795 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:00,720 Speaker 1: these stickers. 796 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 2: Watch this. 797 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 10: Look at what I found walking in my neighborhood. 798 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: That should be required posted john everywhere, just on street corners. 799 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I get sucking into those. When I 800 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: see a QR code, I generally scan it unless it 801 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: wants me to put information. But I'm always curious. Maybe 802 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: that's how we get people more involved. Just QR codes 803 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: with that video attached to it. That's going to do 804 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: it for us here at turning point tonight, have a 805 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 1: great weekend. Charlie is gonna take us out. We will 806 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: see a Monday, same time, same place, unplugged from the 807 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: news a little bit. The world's not burning down. Everything's 808 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: going to be okay. We will see a Monday, same time, 809 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: same place. God bless America. 810 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 3: And so we had Stephen Miller on the program yesterday, which, 811 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 3: by the way, Stephen Miller put forward one of the 812 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 3: best presentations and defenses of the big Beautiful Bill that 813 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 3: anybody will see. It was phenomenal. I got thousands of 814 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 3: emails freedom at Charliekirk dot com. Charlie I went from 815 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 3: skeptical to convinced. Our entire show team roster from Andrews. 816 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 3: A lot of people said they had reservations, but Stephen 817 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 3: Miller's case that he made here on long form was 818 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 3: incredibly persuasive. As Blake aptly put it, he said, look, 819 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 3: this is a conservative wish list. I just wish we 820 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 3: weren't bankrupt. And that's a great way. 821 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 2: To put it. 822 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 3: Of course, we want more cuts, but this bill is 823 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 3: a gift. It is electric. More tax cuts, more ice agents, 824 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 3: more border funding, more deregulation, more drill, baby drill. I mean, 825 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 3: it is just a conservative wish list and still with 826 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 3: one point six trillion dollars in spending cuts and we 827 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 3: wish it was even more. From nationwide voter id to 828 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 3: the one thousand dollars Trump baby bonus, I mean, it's 829 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 3: just across the board. Tax on remittance is tax to 830 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 3: be able to apply for asylum, permanent border security. It's 831 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 3: great across the board. So Stephen Miller and I we 832 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 3: were doing this here live on Real America's Voice and 833 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 3: live on the Salem Radio Network, and live also on 834 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 3: X so we were streaming live on x and we 835 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 3: have no let's just say, verifiable proof that this is 836 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 3: what happened, but we can infer this what happened. As 837 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 3: we were doing the case for the big beautiful bill, 838 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 3: our viewership number skyrocketed. People were watching it, they were 839 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 3: engaging with it. And soon after that segment that Steven 840 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 3: and I had here, both Steve and I got unfollowed 841 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 3: by Elon Musk. I have no bitterness towards that. I 842 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 3: have no reservation, I have no anger. I like Elon, 843 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 3: I always have. I'm thankful for him. Him stepping up 844 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 3: and buying X was an immense contribution to Western civilization. 845 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 3: We've only ever been complimentary of Elon, and I will 846 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 3: continue only to be complimentary of Elon, both privately and publicly. 847 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 3: And I sent Elon a text afterwards being like, Hey, 848 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 3: thankful for all that you've done for me and for 849 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 3: Western civilization. And you know, if you ever want to 850 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 3: reconnect here, I am no big deal. And of course 851 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 3: what ensued after he unfollowed Stephen Miller and I was 852 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 3: Salvo's heard around the world. And I've covered a lot 853 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 3: of this extensively. I did a flash podcast episode that 854 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 3: you guys can listen to. President Trump has been remarkably 855 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 3: restrained in this back and forth because von Musk went 856 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 3: to go say that we must impeach Donald Trump and 857 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 3: then that Donald Trump is part of the Epstein files. 858 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 3: Let me start with the first one. Donald Trump's not 859 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 3: getting impeached, we'll remove from office. I should say he's 860 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 3: been in peach twice. Not gonna happen. I chalk that 861 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 3: one up to men say stuff they don't mean when 862 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 3: they get in a fight. And it is true. Men 863 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 3: are very different than women. You see, God made men 864 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 3: and different women, and those differences are beautiful. When women fight, 865 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 3: they will harbor resentment for thirty five years. They will 866 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 3: remember when a neighbor said something a little bit off 867 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 3: putting a decade ago. Do you remember when Sally stole 868 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 3: my parking spot? Do you remember when she? Oh, I 869 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 3: actually don't remember. We as men have a much short sight. 870 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 3: Let's just say short term memory. 871 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 2: With this stuff. 872 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 3: We could fight and insult and then we can kind 873 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 3: of just dust it off and say it's all good. 874 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna chalk that one up to just as 875 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 3: Jesse Waters put it, two roommates that have just kind 876 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 3: of gotten a little bit heated. I've seen this time 877 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 3: and time again of men that just come to blows 878 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 3: and then they'll forgive one another and then they'll just 879 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 3: be fine. Let's go to a baseball game, Let's go 880 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 3: to a basketball game, let's play poker, let's go get 881 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 3: a beer. Whatever it is, there's something in the masculine 882 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 3: form that you go to such great extent, and you 883 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 3: go to such a thermonuclear level It almost makes the 884 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 3: forgiveness in some ways more likely just got a blow 885 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 3: off steam. Now as far as the Epstein thing goes, 886 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 3: this one, of course, is a bridge too far in 887 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,439 Speaker 3: some ways. I still think that President Trump and Elon 888 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 3: are going to reconcile. People think I'm nuts for saying this. 889 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 3: I made the prediction prediction on thought Crime yesterday where 890 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 3: I said, don't be shocked that before Christmas, all of 891 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,439 Speaker 3: a sudden, there's gonna be a report of Elon Musk 892 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 3: back at mar A Lago. I know that I'm I'm 893 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 3: in the minority here, but I think cooler heads are 894 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 3: events going to prevail. And just like we had the 895 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 3: Abraham records and we're going to solve the Russian Ukrainian War, 896 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 3: and that we solve the Indian Pakistan War, and that 897 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,839 Speaker 3: we're going to solve the Israeli Hamas situation, I think 898 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 3: that there will be peace accords between President Trump and 899 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,760 Speaker 3: Elendmusk and they will be signed at mar A Lago 900 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 3: over two scoops of ice cream and steak. I just 901 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 3: I think that there will be the Musk Trump Accords 902 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 3: where they come back together and there will be some reconciliation. 903 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 3: But as far as the Epstein think goes, I have 904 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 3: to address this. Number one. The administration is working to 905 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 3: get these files out. Apparently there's a ton of graphic 906 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 3: child exploitive material that they have to blackout in all this, 907 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 3: But there is no evidence whatsoever that President Trump is 908 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 3: mentioned in an incriminating way in the Epstein files. And 909 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 3: let me just make the most common sense, reasoned argument imaginable. 910 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 3: Number one. If you actually look at the Epstein files 911 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 3: that were released back in February, president Trump was mentioned 912 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 3: in a non incriminating way. Who else was mentioned, like 913 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 3: every single person that lived in Palm Beach. The idea 914 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 3: that President Trump, and what Elon Musk was insinuating, is 915 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 3: that President Trump is, let's just say, a really bad person. 916 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 3: By saying this is not only is there no evidence, 917 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 3: there's evidence of the contrary. He kicked Epstein out of 918 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 3: his club at mar A Lago. He actively went to 919 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 3: war against Epstein for being very, very creepy. But let's 920 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 3: just kind of put on our thinking cap for a 921 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 3: second here. Let's just use our reason a gift given 922 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 3: to us by God Almighty. You're trying to tell me 923 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,839 Speaker 3: that the Democrats who controlled the entire federal government were 924 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 3: sitting on Donald Trump being in the Epstein files, and 925 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 3: they decided dispatch Fannie Willis and Alvin Bragg and Jack 926 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 3: Smith to put him in jail for seven hundred years. 927 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 3: They decided this dispatch Letitia James to take away his 928 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 3: business empire. All the while they were sitting on a 929 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 3: smoking gun of Donald Trump being in the Epstein files. 930 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't they have just moved on net They impeached 931 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 3: him twice. So here's Joe Biden, and he has Merrick Garland, 932 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 3: and you have Lisa Monico, and you have this entire 933 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 3: flotilla of anti Trump Democrat activists. And all they'd have 934 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 3: to do is not go raid mar A Lago, not 935 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 3: go look at documents, not go do the fact that 936 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 3: Trump watched an and said go find votes, not the 937 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 3: fact that Donald Trump apparently something with Alvin Bragg and 938 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 3: Stormy Daniels. No, No, Instead, all they'd have to do 939 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 3: is just open up the files and say, oh, Donald 940 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 3: Trump's on the client list. 941 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 9: Boom. 942 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 3: The FBI was controlled by Democrats and the dj The 943 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 3: reason they didn't do that is because it doesn't exist. 944 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 6: Height