1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: five and today we're back with another episode of our 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: rut Fresh radio miniseries which we're hearing from deer hunters 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: all across the country on the latest deer activity, current conditions, 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: and the tactics that are gonna help you right now. 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: to you by Onyx, and welcome to November. It's here. 11 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: We're here talking our rut Fresh radio episodes in which 12 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: we're getting intel from all across the country and preparing 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: you for the week ahead. And the week ahead is 14 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: the first full week in November. Uh hopefully, hopefully good 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: things ahead. Spencer, Um, have you started your rut trip? 16 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: I think you did right. I did my uh my 17 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: first hunt on my rut trip was on Halloween and 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: I've been at it every morning and afternoon since. Do 19 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: you do you want to to Voulte House going so 20 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: far at all? Or is that for another time? You 21 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: know what? I'll briefly touch on it, and it's, um, 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: probably the same thing that you're gonna say about your 23 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: Michigan hunting and a lot of the same stuff that 24 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: you're gonna hear from our guests this week. Um, but 25 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: it's been really warm, but it is still the rut. 26 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: Weather be damned dear, you're gonna move. Moonbe damn dear, 27 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: You're gonna move. Um, it's still the rut. This is 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: still the best two week period of the year to 29 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: be hunting. But maybe instead of it being like a 30 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: smashing eleven out of ten for deep movement, it's right 31 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: around like an eight or nine because it is so 32 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: damn hot. And the last time it was this hot 33 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: in the November. I looked it up, Mark, was last 34 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: election day in I'm sure we talked about it on 35 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: that episode as well. Um, But like I said, it's 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: still the r This is still the best time of 37 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: the year to be a white tail hunter. And the 38 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: forecast looks promising for this coming weekend. And I think 39 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: everybody right now in the Midwest in the East is 40 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: talking about this warm spell that we have. And I 41 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: know you've talked about this before, Mark, and you recently 42 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: touched on it on an article on the mediator dot 43 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: com where you were in Iowa and some warm weather 44 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: rolled through and you packed up and headed home a 45 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: little bit early. And that story kind of brings me 46 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: some comfort for what I'm experiencing right now, and so 47 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: I'd love for you to share that again, how that 48 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: went and what happened. Well. Yeah, so this was back 49 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: in my younger year, Spencer, when I was floating like 50 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: a milk weed in the breeze and uh letting, letting 51 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: the whims of the weather or other things get me 52 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: too worried during the rut. And so I was out 53 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: on an out of state trip to Iowa, like you mentioned, 54 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: and had a big warm spell come through, and I 55 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: was thinking, well, you know, maybe I should take this 56 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: time and go home and you know, do some honey 57 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: doo stuff or something. And it was like November. I 58 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: don't remember the exact dates, but somewhere in November, and 59 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: foolishly I took a couple of days off because of 60 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: that warm weather and was gonna come right back two 61 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: days later. And during those two days I was gone, 62 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: three of my buddies all filled their tags on like 63 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: seventy seventy degree days. And that just was the nail 64 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: on the coffin for me to never let warm weather 65 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: get me too depressed during the rut, because anything is possible. Sure, 66 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: the middle of the day might be warm, but there's 67 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: still gonna be activity, especially early morning and in the evening. Um, 68 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: it's still gonna be happening. I think the one noticeable difference, 69 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: at least the most noticeable difference I've seen, is that 70 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: that midday period is much more suppressed than otherwise. It 71 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: might be UM, but otherwise it's still going to be 72 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: the rut. So yeah, I don't like this weather. Our 73 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: our forecast in Michigan is is not really great until 74 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: next week. We've got mid upper sixties all the way 75 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: to seventy um, all the way until November nine, UM, 76 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: so that takes us all the way to Tuesday. So 77 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: not a very promising forecast. But I'm still gonna be 78 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: out there. I would encourage everyone with a similar forecast 79 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: to still be out there, because you know, it's magical 80 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: time period. Even if we're not gonna have those crisp, 81 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: cold mornings like we want. The bucks don't care. They've 82 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: got one thing on their mind, and it's not the forecast. Honestly, Mark, 83 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: this is maybe like the least important, the least helpful 84 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: episode of the year that will have you. You're really 85 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: good at selling this one. Man. Well, I'm saying off, folks, 86 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 1: it's not that you could. You could in the podcast 87 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: off right now and still into the woods this weekend 88 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: and be really confident that the deer are going to 89 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: be moving because it's that time of year. And that's 90 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: just the point that I want to drive home about 91 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: this other stuff that weather, moon, um, all that stuff. 92 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: You can ignore it, look at it, and maybe it'll 93 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: make you more confident when you hit the woods, but 94 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: don't let it affect things too much. Now, tell me this, though, Spenser, 95 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: Am I right that the people that we're gonna talk 96 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: to here today, regardless of if they're gonna tell us 97 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: some kind of conditioned thing that's gonna inspire us. More importantly, 98 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna give us some tactics that will help us 99 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: regardless of warm weather. YadA, YadA, YadA. Right, So there 100 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: is still a reason to listen. Definitely, the four people 101 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: that we talked to you this week, uh In Nate 102 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: Crick from Identical Draw in Kansas, John Teeter in New 103 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,119 Speaker 1: York from white Tail Landscapes, Josh Smith from Wild Carrot 104 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: Deer Attracted in Kentucky, and then in South Dakota, Sam 105 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: Sohold from Public Land. We should probably share our dear 106 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: activity ratings spencer since we've both been out, why not 107 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: add to the UH average across all these different states. 108 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: Do you want to give me on a one to 109 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: ten scale Spencer, how's the dear activity in South Dakota been? 110 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: Like you had said before, Mark, I think it is 111 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: still really strong in the mornings, in the evenings um 112 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: where I would say it's like an eight or nine 113 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: out of ten right now. But midday I'm just not 114 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of movement in person. I'm not seeing 115 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: it on my trail cameras. It seems like the bucks 116 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: for the most part are functioning like their crispuscular um 117 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: and that it's very similar to what you'd see maybe 118 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: in like the October range, which is okay. It's it's 119 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: still great hunting, but because of that warm weather, you're 120 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: just not getting like the crazy UH scenes that you 121 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: would expect for the rut. I would give it here 122 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: in Michigan in that eight eight range eight to nine range, 123 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: um you know I've been seeing I have seen some 124 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: midday activity. Um. I did see a mature buck move 125 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: at eleven o'clock the other day. UM, a lot of chasing. 126 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: I've seen bucks locked on. Does I saw buck brida dough? Uh? 127 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: So all that stuff is happening. Um, it's it's just uh, 128 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't give it a full time out 129 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: of ten yet because I haven't killed one. I guess. 130 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: And something that I'm gonna ask each one of our 131 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: guests this week, mark is what is your ideal rutt 132 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: hunting setup? And and I haven't paid a picture for 133 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: me as far as like what the terrain is like, 134 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: why they're there, um, why they think a buck will 135 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: show up there, all that kind of stuff. So you 136 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: tell me what is like your ideal November four set 137 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: up in Michigan. Man, I want the Venn diagram of 138 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: rutt hunting setups, which would be a doe betting area 139 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: and a pinch point combined, right, because you think of 140 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: like those your two main types of rut setups that 141 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: you would usually point folks towards. So I want the 142 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: two of those together in the same place. So I 143 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: want there to be a spot where I could be 144 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: downwind of dough betting, but also for some reason, this 145 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: place also pinches down, So there's a reason that dey're 146 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: going to come through then to come through downwind of 147 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: that betting area to check for doughs. So that's happening. 148 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: But then there's gonna be some kind of constriction that 149 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: forces all those bucks to pass through within range of 150 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: my stand. So I don't know, Maybe that is uh 151 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: a section where there's a steep ridge, maybe, and nothing's 152 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: gonna go off to the one side because it's it's 153 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: so steep. Everything's gonna come just within forty fifty yards 154 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: on my up wind side where there's this dough betting area, 155 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: and to get down wind of it, they have to 156 00:08:55,720 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: be in this thirty wide swatch just above that ridge side. 157 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: Is I don't know a random example I'm thinking of, 158 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: but but something like that is that deal in my eyes. Um, 159 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: being down one of a doe betting there is great. 160 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: Being a pinch point is great. But when you can 161 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: get it all there together, that's that's a recipe for success. 162 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: This is like a really simplistic way to think about it, 163 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: But I want there to be a reason to have 164 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: like two way traffic for bucks that they could come 165 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: from either direction down any trail morning or evening or midday. 166 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: And you know, usually that means that there's, like you said, 167 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: there's that bend diagram of of everything is there. You 168 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: want like there to be a pinch point and doe betting, 169 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: or you want there to be um an area that's 170 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: lit up with sign and there's buck betting. You want 171 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: there to be one area where all the deer cross 172 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: the creek, plus some sort of hot food source or 173 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: something like that. All that I mean by that is 174 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: that like you're not hunting a field edge where traffic 175 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: is gonna come from one direction, or you're not hunting 176 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: this scrape line um that eats out to a field 177 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: edge or something like that. So getting an area where 178 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: sign is congregated, where betting is congregated, those sorts of 179 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: things and marketing articles in the past, and I know 180 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: you wrote one last year that was called the Rules 181 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: of the Rut and basically you said, there's the kiss system. 182 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: Keep it simple, stupid, uh and and just look for 183 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: like these couple of things during the rut and you're 184 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: gonna be totally fine. Um. And if you're still not 185 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: feeling prepared for the rout if this podcast doesn't do it, uh, 186 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: and whatever else you've consumed for this coming weekend, there's 187 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: some other articles that you should go to the media 188 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: dot com and read. We have three reasons why hunters 189 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: failed during their route that Tony Peterson wrote, um, And 190 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: when I was editing that, it felt like I had 191 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: been seen by Tony for for the things that he 192 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: talked about. So I think a lot of hunters can 193 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: benefit from that. Something else that Tony had recently wrote 194 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: for us was how to in season scout for deer. Uh. 195 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: If you're not prepared for their rut and you're hitting 196 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: the woods this weekend you're looking to kill a buck, 197 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: that article can offer you some great advice. Are there 198 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: any podcast mark that people should pay attention to for 199 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: rudd hunting tips from Wired to Hunt? Yeah, we got 200 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: a lot of them, but I'll tell you that the 201 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: two that are that had one that just came out 202 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: with Andrew de Quisto. Definitely listen to that one if 203 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: you haven't already. And then tomorrow we've got a really 204 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: good one coming out with Aaron Warburton and Greg Clements 205 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: from the Hunting Public All about the rut, So be 206 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: sure to tune in tomorrow for that one. Uh, and 207 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: then some throwbacks if you go and search for Wired 208 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: Hunting podcast. We had one with Will Primos. If you're 209 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: hunt in the South at all, there's some great Southern 210 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: run hunting tactics in that one. We had a really 211 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: good one with Don Higgins a number of years ago. 212 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: Great one with Jared Mills not too long ago. So 213 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: if you just google Wired to Hunt and RUT podcast, 214 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: you'll be able to find a whole bunch of episodes 215 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: like that where we cover these details, lots of great 216 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: strategies and tactics for you. UM, pump them all up, 217 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: listen to them when you're driving to deer camp or 218 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: wherever you're going, and uh, you'll be well armed to 219 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: fill that tag. All right, Mark, Well, I think that 220 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: is enough from us. Uh. Happy November, Happy rut sounds good. 221 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: All of our interviews this week are presented by a 222 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: Trophy Ridge. 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On 232 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, I would say the 233 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: buctivity has been a seven lately. I mean, you can't 234 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: beat the first week in November getting into it. Um. 235 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: But I would say these warm temps, I mean crazy 236 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: warm temps have definitely demper the movement a little bit. 237 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: So are you seeing any bucks moving in midday or 238 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: is everything in the mornings and evenings nocturnal? Right now? Um? 239 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: Right now? At least the last few days, things have 240 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: really gone nocturnal. Today on cameras was probably the slowest 241 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: day as far as daylight movement. We have cellular cameras 242 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: so we're able to get that quick feed, and today 243 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: was probably the slowest day we've had on trail camera 244 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: for daylight movements since the beginning of October. We're just 245 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: saying something, so yeah, um, we're still seeing buck movement, 246 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: but a lot of it has turned nocked. Now. I 247 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: know you have some destination food sources on your acres 248 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: in Kansas. How did those destination food sources facts you're 249 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: into your rut setups. We definitely pay attention to the 250 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: food source right now. I don't think that's the number 251 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: one thing on these Bucks minds, of course, um. But 252 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: as far as picking the spot, we definitely, um think 253 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: about the food sources on our property when picking the spot. 254 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: If we can figure out, of course, the rut. Right now, 255 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: we're focused on Buck travel and just figuring out those 256 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: pinch points. But if we can find one of those 257 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: places that also is closer to one of these food 258 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: sources where a lot of doughs could possibly be hanging out, 259 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: we're going to be hitting up that spot hunt in 260 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: that area. Nate, tell me what the ideal rut set 261 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: up looks like for you? Uh, what are you looking 262 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: for in that area? Why do you think Bucks are 263 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: going to be there? And if you're in a tree 264 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: stand on November four, what does it look like? Yeah? So, 265 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: I me and my brother actually just hung a stands 266 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: out I think is one of our most ideal sets 267 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: we've ever hung. And it goes like this, basically run 268 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: a ridgeline um with oaks. Our stand is actually in 269 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: an oak and directly bab beneath us to the east. 270 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: We've got really great betting. Were actually hanging this set. 271 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: We bumped a really nice buck out of it, just 272 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: a light bump. Um. We're able to get into the 273 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: tree without disturbing too much. But we know that area 274 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: is going to be full of dos and there's also 275 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: a pocket of buck betting where he's found sheds from 276 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: previous year's shed hunting it. But the other thing that 277 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: plays a role kind of like what I was talking 278 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: about earlier, is one of our foot pots with beans 279 00:14:55,320 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: in Braska's is only about seventy six seventy yard arts 280 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: to the west, so you have food source there with 281 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: the oak ridge line and also really thick bedding there. 282 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: So um, it provides really good travel, food sources and 283 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: bedding basically everything you need in a money red spot. 284 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: You just mentioned your trail cameras. As we get into 285 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: peak rot, where are you running most of your cameras? Yeah, 286 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: right now, it's all about to travel, So I'm putting 287 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: those places in just places that the funneled deer um ridgelines, 288 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: but also pinch points on um on field edges, things 289 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: like that, really good timber draws we have next to 290 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: creek that runs next for a property that will keep 291 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: dear from accessing that other side. Things like that on 292 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: the edge of really thick bedding. Our best cameras right 293 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: now are not on food sources, but they're on scrapes 294 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,479 Speaker 1: in timber and on those pinch points you just mentioned signmaking. 295 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: How much longer is that going to be relevant for 296 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: your setups in Kansas? Yeah, Like when I mentioned that 297 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: most ideal rot set up, there aren't a ton There 298 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: isn't a ton of sign in that area. There's a 299 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: few um scrapes and a handful of routes that you 300 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: could possibly see from the tree stand. But really, UM, 301 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: that always plays a good role during this time of 302 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: the year. But I'm I'm really trying to get away 303 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: from that this time of the year. Not necessarily way, 304 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: but I'm not focusing on as much. I'm really just 305 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: focusing on those travel routes. You could throw a scrape 306 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: or a rub in that area. That's great. UM. As 307 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: far as crake camps go, we've seen scrape action continue 308 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: really good it's un nocturnal with these warm temperatures. But 309 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: I also walking the property in the last few days, 310 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: I saw those first really big routs pop up. Um, 311 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: which is a good sign. Bucks around move and making signs. 312 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: In big egg country, the harvest status can positively or 313 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: negatively affect the rought. What is that harvest status right 314 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: now in Kansas for you? Um, basically all the beans 315 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: around us seem to be picked. Um, there's still some 316 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: corn standing that's actually up a little later than usual, 317 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: it seems. But um, I think it's going to be 318 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: just another normal year with the with the crops. Um. 319 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: The biggest thing that we've seen it just these warm temps. 320 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, the crops seem to be the 321 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: just like normal. I mean when they're in, when the 322 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: standing corners in, it's definitely attracting gear towards those areas. 323 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: But um, it hasn't been anything more unusual than any 324 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: other years. I say, the biggest thing is just these temps. 325 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean the first week in November today hit eighty degrees. 326 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: So I think that's the biggest thing playing a role 327 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: right now. Do you do any decoying during the rut? Uh? No, 328 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: we haven't. Uh, it's interesting, but our part of our 329 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: part of Kansas, we've we have never rattled in the 330 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: mature bucks. So the decoy we've always we've never never 331 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: had any success with it and never really used it 332 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: a whole lot, just because, Um, we just haven't had 333 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: success with the call and we have grunted bucks in 334 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: but no, I haven't gotten into the decoy thing. Going forward. Then, 335 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: in a sex week or so, what do you think 336 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: that bucket activt is going to be on a scale 337 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: of to ten in Kansas? The next week? The next 338 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: four or five days look to be warm, which is 339 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: not ideal. Um, you can't beat the first week in November. 340 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: I mean that is usually prime time across the Midwest, 341 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: especially Kansas. But I would say it's probably gonna be 342 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: staying that seven seven out of ten. Um, right, I'd 343 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: love to give it higher with it being the first 344 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: week in November, but I mean, these warm TIMPs being 345 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: in the seventy eight degrees, it's shut down trail camp 346 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: activity and activity that we've seen out hunting. So next 347 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: week temperatures are dropping. I expect you to be much 348 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: better that time. All right, Nate, Well, good luck to 349 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: you and your brother. I'll be following along at identical draw. 350 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me alright and joining us on the line. 351 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: Next is John Teeter from White Tail Landscapes in New York. Now, 352 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: John in New York, what would you say the buck 353 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: activities been lately on a scale of one to ten? Yeah, 354 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: I'd say the past week there was definitely an intense change, 355 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: and I'd say probably rolls up to maybe a seven 356 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: or eight probably in the Scott d more appropriate based 357 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: upon the volume movement, a lot of midday movement, transition stuff, 358 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: see the changes where you know you're starting to do 359 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: a lot of seeking and kind of working to their 360 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: advantage at this point finding. Uh, you know where the 361 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: dolls like to be. They're starting to seek things out, 362 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: and you know the breedings be gone at this point. So, John, 363 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: how can somebody identify a doll betting area if they're 364 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: sort of new to a property and they're hitting it 365 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: for the first time and doing some in season scouting 366 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: during the rut. Yeah, in season scouting is is uh, 367 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: definitely gives you the advantage to knowing what's going on. 368 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: A lot of times you'll kick out dose in those 369 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: specific areas. That's a that's a clear indication usually adjacent 370 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: to food and and food tends to be less of 371 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: a focus area. At this point, the does become a 372 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: bit more scattered. Uh. You know, they're they're starting to 373 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: get chased. The hunting pressure is a factor and some 374 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: of that, but you're starting to see a decline in 375 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: interest in food, and cover starts to become ing uh. 376 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 1: And and you know, larger areas of cover that are 377 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: a bit isolated, You'll start to see those frequent those 378 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: areas a little bit more often than they normally do, 379 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: just to kind of escape the pressure of the bucks 380 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: that are after them. So that's probably the first step 381 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: I would give. Now, do the same thing for buck betting. 382 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: If somebody is just hitting the woods in a new 383 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: area for the first time, how can they identify a 384 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: buck's bed? You know, the buck betting intends to be 385 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: isolated a lot of times. You know, with the leaf 386 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: drop as of recent if you get a lot of 387 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: change in thermals and the wind shifts in those areas, 388 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: that penetrates a little bit deeper. So wind based betting 389 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: and thermal betting is a huge component of kind of 390 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: where the bucks are going to lay up posibly on 391 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: hillsides and open terrain. They also want visual acuity, so 392 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: they want to be able to see some distances away. Um, 393 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: those things start to go away as the rut was 394 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: fairing to creep into the ruts, so you know they're 395 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: moving more frequently. You're almost on their feet, you know, 396 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day to some degree depending on 397 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: the intensity, and you know the available those that that 398 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: they're seeking. So that's you'll start to see a change 399 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: and shift to that. How deep into the rut is 400 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: signmaking relevant for you in New York? You know, I 401 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: try to be a little bit more predictive, so I'm 402 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: not relying on that type of data. But if you're 403 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: going in and you're you're hunting an area you know 404 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: for the first time, you know, it's kind of good 405 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: to start off looking even at the scrape to see 406 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: what the available tracks and sizes of tracts. That's that's 407 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: the first indicator, you know, the sign. Last week, you know, 408 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: the scrape activity was kind of at an all time 409 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: hi high and it's just going to start to decline. 410 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: It'll have them flow. But the rub activities increased this week. 411 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: I've seen many more rubs in the woods while I'm 412 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: coming and going and and so that that's an indicator 413 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: to me that they're they're they're kind of on the 414 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: tails of transitioning in one area to the next and 415 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: focusing on, you know, seeing what those are in instress 416 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: and in stress ready ready to be read. So that's 417 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: that's kind of the next phase of things. John. If 418 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: somebody is looking to manipulate their property to have it 419 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: be set up really really well for peak rot, what 420 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: would that look like. What are some things that a 421 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: landowner can do to get their property ready for November? Yeah, 422 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: I think I think the big thing is, like I 423 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: said earlier, when when you're starting to transition, you know, 424 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: the cover type and habitat types are are critical. Having 425 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: a lot of availability of food, uh and and food 426 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 1: in an example, blackberries, um, you know, the BlackBerry leaves, um, 427 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: those are those are good example, while plumb those type 428 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: of sources of food within the betting areas are are 429 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: really critical. So introduct introducing a component of food within 430 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: these betting areas and betting areas, you know, and using 431 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: the design process or anywhere between you know, one to 432 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: three acres in size. Sometimes they're larger depending on their location, 433 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: but having a larger pocket of cover uh. And and 434 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: that it's beneficial because as the bucks go in, they 435 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 1: don't they don't necessarily able to win check an entire area, 436 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: so as they cruise, not necessarily having to use wind 437 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: fully to assess what's going on in those areas, will 438 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: actually actually have to work those areas and seek them out. 439 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: And from a hunting perspective, you can take complete advantage 440 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: of that. Defining their entry and exits in those areas 441 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: are critical because at that point you'll be able to 442 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: kind of pinpoint how they leave and enter a location. 443 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 1: And and then that really makes the hunting that much easier. 444 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: So that that's a that's a big component of it. John, 445 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: What is your ideal RUT set up look like for 446 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: the second weekend in November in New York. That's a 447 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: good question. Um. An ideal set up for me would be, 448 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: m I'm a fringe person. I'm always hunting in a bringe. 449 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: So what that generally means to me is usually connection 450 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: point between two betting areas. Usually as a key key 451 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: focus point. UM. I like to be uh, you know, 452 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: not within the betting uh, just on the edge. Of 453 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: the betting. Uh and in a position where you know, 454 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 1: I could potentially be you know that wind of deer 455 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: and so as they're up when you know they're kind 456 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: of penetrating these airs and and uh, you know, you 457 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: know it's I'm able to to uh you know, either 458 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: attract them from an identification standpoint, or call them or 459 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: or relay you know, some type of calling to them. 460 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: So sequencely they're able to come into the property and 461 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm able to get a shot at them. So that's 462 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: that's kind of my ideal location. So just staying on 463 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: the fringes and attacking the meter fringes, not necessarily penetrating 464 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: the betting areas. So that's that's my ideal set up 465 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: going forward. Then in the sex week or so, what 466 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: do you think that bucket TV is going to be 467 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: on the scale of one to ten in New York? 468 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: I think, uh, it's start. It's gonna warm up, so 469 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna see a little less activity in the afternoons, 470 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: a lot of intense activity in the morning. Um, you know, 471 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: towards the later half of this week into the sixth, seventh, 472 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: and eighth, I mean that's just peak time. Um, you know, 473 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: deer coming off their usually they're there their second extra Still, uh, 474 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: the intensity increases, the competition depending on her dynamics could 475 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: go you know, through the roof. But they're going to 476 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: get a lot of movement this weekend. So this weekend 477 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: is gonna be gonna be primetime. All right, John, that's 478 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: great info. Thanks to your time and good luck this year. 479 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: Thanks man, you too, alright, and joining us on the 480 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: line next is Josh Smith from Wildcare Deer Attractive in Kentucky. Now, 481 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: Josh in Kentucky, what would you say the bucket activity 482 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: is ben lately on a scale of one to ten, 483 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: well as recently as this past weekend when I was hunting, 484 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: I would I would say it was a six daytime activity. 485 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: Wasn't super hot, it was we had high winds, it 486 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: was a little warm until Monday morning we had frost 487 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: and things cooled off, and uh, you know, you can 488 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: kind of see the uptick and movement during the day. 489 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: But also, um, this past weekend and the moonlight is 490 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: shining bright all night, so I always, you know, tend 491 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 1: to think that that has a little bit of an 492 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: effect on daytime activity. And when it sat bright at 493 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: night and I feel like they're a little more knock eternal, 494 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: and uh, our cams would kind of suggest that we've 495 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: been having obviously a lot more nighttime activity on them 496 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: than daytime. But uh, you know, it's the ruts here, 497 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: It's it's kicking off and and you never know what 498 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: could happen. So anytime getting the trees a good time 499 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: in Kentucky, when do you historically start seeing some midday 500 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: movement from mature bucks? Oh, it could be anywhere from 501 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, I try to think of Halloween as kind 502 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: of the jumping off point for where we're at at uh, 503 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: and and that's kind of when you want to start 504 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: spending as much time a tree as possible, because you know, 505 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: you might be starting Halloween and the few days after 506 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: that you might not see much daytime activity, or you 507 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: might you just don't really know, And obviously kind of 508 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: keep weather and and uh, moon phases in mind when 509 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: you're making your decisions, but you know, Halloween through the 510 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: middle of November, you just kind of not how in 511 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: yourself if you're not in a tree. Now. As the 512 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: owner of a scent company, I know you're a huge 513 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: advocate for using sense during the rut, So tell me 514 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: about what your strategy is with different urine during peak rut. Well, 515 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: for in the peak of the run, I'd like to 516 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: use I'll take one of our dough and estrus and 517 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: one of our rutting buck, which is a dominant buck scent, 518 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: and I'll clip both of them onto my drag and 519 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: drag them in together to kind of simulate the chase. 520 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: Is one of my favorite things to do. It's been 521 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: proven to be effective. I shot a nice buck in 522 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: Kentucky figures back doing that. UM came in nose down 523 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: on my cent trail, and I've just always had good success, 524 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: good luck with that, so it's kind of my go to. UM. 525 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: You know, you're trying to shine away from cover sense 526 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: this time of year. You want to be UH taking 527 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: as much control as you can, kind of taken advantage 528 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,239 Speaker 1: of the situation where UH bucks are a little more 529 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: aggressive and kind of use that to your advantage. You 530 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: mentioned your trail cameras earlier. Where do you have a 531 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: lot of your trail cameras as we get into early 532 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: in mid November, primarily travel routes. UM, We're trying to 533 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: locate any any corridors between betting h in any isolated 534 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: food sources, which we still have standing beams and standing 535 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: corn both on the Kentucky properties, So you're it makes 536 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: it a little easier and a little tougher at the 537 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: same time to kind of isolate those corridors because they've 538 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: got a vast variety of food still. Um, they are 539 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: also hitting acorns, which we have as well. So the 540 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: key is just kind of figuring out what those travel 541 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: corridors are, and we try to set up cams on 542 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: sites that are producing, you know, just kind of using 543 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: common sense and and locating as best we can the 544 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: highest traveler UH the highest usage on travel routes to 545 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: capitalize with our trail camera setups. Josh telling you about 546 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: what your ideal RUTS set up is for the second 547 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: weekend in November in Kentucky, Well, ideally I'd be doing 548 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: a gripping grand right now, but since that's not on 549 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: the table. Um. No, Just like I mentioned, you know, 550 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: you want to work those travel corridors as much as possible. 551 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: You want to stick tight to UH dough betting as 552 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: much as you can. You know, you want to know 553 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: where your doughs are and you'll know where your bucks 554 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: are this time of year. So that's kind of what 555 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: we do as a rule of thumb, you know, so 556 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: just keeping in mind doe betting, where they're betting at, 557 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 1: and also food sources and travel corridors and kind of 558 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: uh putting all that together and make a plan going forward. 559 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: Then in the sex week or so, what do you 560 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: think that bucket activity is going to be on a 561 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: scale of one to ten in Kentucky. Well, I'd say 562 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: I think the breath's gonna be a little more progressed, 563 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: so I feel like it'll be a little higher. We 564 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: also are getting a kind of a warm front moving through. 565 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: We had lows in the lower thirties this past weekend 566 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: and this coming weekend the loads are going to be 567 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: in the mid fifties. So it's a pretty significant jump 568 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: in temperature. Um, so I feel like it will bump up. 569 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: But I don't feel like it's going to bump up 570 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: like crazy, you know. I normally I think if it 571 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: weren't for the warm up, I would I would be 572 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: more optimistic and say like a eight, but maybe seven, 573 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, so we'll see. I'm I'm still optimistic, and 574 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: I think that activity is going to be up, So 575 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: I just I'm just not sugure how much, but I 576 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: would if I had to bet, I'd say not a ton. 577 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 1: All right, Josh, Well, good luck and thanks for joining me. Yeah, man, 578 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: thanks for having me Spencer alright and joining us on 579 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: the line. Next is Sam sold in South Dakota from 580 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: public Land Tease. Now, Sam in South Dakota, what would 581 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: you say the bucket activity has been lately on a 582 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: scale of one to ten, you know, I'd say right now, 583 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: it's probably somewhere between a four and five. And it's 584 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: typical in this state that I've seen if this is 585 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: kind of really when it starts to kick off. So 586 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: I have seen some younger bucks chasing pretty hard and 587 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: saw one mature buck kind of follow a dough out 588 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: into a field the other night. Um, but it's not 589 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: all out. So there's there's definitely bucks moving, um that 590 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: showed today, but it's not it's not all out yet. Now. 591 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: Things changed fast during the rut and this morning, Sam, 592 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: we were texting each other and at seven forty seven 593 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: you said things were slow and you were going to 594 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: be moving spots for the afternoon, And then at seven 595 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: fifty three you texted me that you just killed one. 596 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: So tell us about that set up and how that 597 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: haunt went down. Yeah, So you and I are texted 598 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: back and forth, and I had basically written off where 599 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: I was sitting that morning, like everything about this everything 600 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: about this morning was like it took me forever find 601 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: the tree to hang in, just there wasn't a straight 602 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: tree on the ridge. The wind was different than what 603 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: was forecast, and so I was moving around and was 604 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: just like to the point where I was like, oh, 605 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: nothing's gonna roll into the spot. Well, I finally was 606 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: finally got up in the tree after first light, and 607 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: you and I were texting, and um, I sent that 608 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: last message to ask if you were out hunting, and 609 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: then I was like, God, it's kind of cool this morning. 610 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: And I actually reached back and grabbed my bibs to 611 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: put on, and I pulled him around and I was 612 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: sitting down. I pulled him around in front of me, 613 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: and I looked up and I saw him walking down 614 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: the ridge, and so I just put the bibbs down 615 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: between my feet on the tree stand and grabbed my bow, 616 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: and uh, he ended up walking right down the ridge 617 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: and a little bit I know, but I was there 618 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: was a little bit of cover out on the end 619 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: of this ridge, and he was just it must have 620 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: been done, searching for chance, sent checking for dose or 621 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: whatever for the night. And I was just coming back 622 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: to bed and he walked into twenty two yards and 623 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: I shot him. Um. So like better to be lucky 624 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: than good sometimes I like it. Now, Sam, tell me 625 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: about what your ideal RUTS setup is in South Dakota 626 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: as we get into the second weekend of November. Yeah, 627 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: so I'm really looking for stuff where I know that 628 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: there are gonna be dose congregating. So looking for like 629 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: thick betting cover, real nasty thickets, um, and transition lines 630 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: between like bigger deciduous trees and say, you know, some 631 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: sort of real thick cover, whether it be Russian olive, um, 632 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: some more groundcover where I know there's probably gonna be 633 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: does betting and bucks coming by to scent check is 634 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: what I'm really looking for. Um. So it can be 635 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: really small patches of that, but a lot of times 636 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: I find bucks are you know, covering like big distances 637 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: to go check these small pockets of cover, knowing that 638 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: there's probably a dough or two in there. I know 639 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: you have success using some really aggressive tactics this year 640 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: you almost rattled in a buck recently. Um, a few 641 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: years ago you decoyed one. And tell me about using 642 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: decoys and calls during the rout. Yep, I love using both, um, 643 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: and that you know, I figured I only have so 644 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: many days to hunt each November, and if I'm if 645 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to get it done, sometimes you have to 646 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: be You can't just always stand on the sideline looking in. Um. 647 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: You gotta get really tight into stuff where you know 648 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: there's gonna be bucks, and then you're using stuff like decoys. 649 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: Has worked extremely well for me. I shot several deer 650 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: over decoys and uh. Um, I think they can be 651 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: in the right situations, can be in a very valuable tool. 652 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: And I'm definitely not afraid to call rattling grunting. Um. 653 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: You know, when the rut is really on, if you 654 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: really get yourself into a situation where you're seeing a 655 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: lot of running deer, it you know it can just 656 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: be absolute madness where they're running around, grunting almost every breath, 657 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: um and posturing to other deer and stuff. So I 658 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: I find that you know it might see aggressive, but 659 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: I'm basically mimic king like a deer being in like 660 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 1: on fire rut activity. You're from North Dakota, you're hunting 661 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: sal Dacota. You're headed to Kansas soon. What sort of 662 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: food sources are you looking for in the Great Plane 663 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: during November or is that not something that you focus 664 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: on at all? Well, you know, I don't focus on 665 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: food a ton other than finding food sources that are closed, 666 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: like somewhat close to a bedding area where I know 667 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,479 Speaker 1: I'm going to be catching them coming back to bed. 668 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: But because I hunt so much public ground, there's not 669 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: typically a lot of food to focus on. And but 670 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: if I am focusing on food, I'm typically looking for 671 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: cornfield this time of year because it's a lot of 672 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: them typically are getting harvested right now. Um, and so 673 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: you know deer either we're living in them or are 674 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: coming to them as they're cut fresh and eating stuff 675 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: off the ground. Um. But yeah, definitely looking for cornfields 676 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: when you do get to Kansas, it's gonna be mid 677 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: November that time a year. What sort of stuff are 678 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: you looking for when you're doing in season scouting? Yeah, 679 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: so just looking for the freshest sign possible. Uh, going 680 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: to be looking for you know, fresh rubs, fresh scrapes 681 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: and you know, big big buck tracks, and yeah, I 682 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: mean it's pretty much it like if I can find 683 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: stuff that looks like you know, um, it seems like 684 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: bucks down there typically like to rub bigger trees than 685 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: I find up in up in the Midwest and are 686 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 1: in the Great Plains, and so I'm looking for stuff 687 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: that looks like it was just like really recently shredded 688 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: up um in in thickets and stuff. Is kind of 689 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: what I'm what I'm going off of, And obviously looking 690 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: at pinch points and travel corridors where I know there's 691 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: probably gonna be deer traveling through looking for does and 692 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: estris and trying to find hot sign within those kind 693 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: of small gaps to shoot through. Going forward. Then in 694 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: the six week or so, what do you think that 695 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: bucket ATV is going to be on a scale of 696 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 1: one to ten in South Dakota. You know, I would 697 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: say we are warmer than average weather right now, so uh, 698 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, typically it really kicks off here in the 699 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: next few days, but with that cold front coming in 700 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: kind of at the end of the weekend, I would 701 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: say it's going to be you know, all the way 702 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: maxed out by Monday or Tuesday next week, so probably 703 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,919 Speaker 1: like incrementally increasing over the next three to five days. 704 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: All right, Sam, one jealous of your success, but congrats 705 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: on the deer and good luck with the rest of 706 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: your season. Thanks for joining me. Thanks man, And that 707 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: concludes this week's episode of rut Fresh Radio. Thanks to Nate, John, Josh, 708 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: and Sam for joining me, and thank you guys for listening. 709 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: I'm stoked that the rut is here. Happy November to 710 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: everyone listening. This only comes once a year, so I 711 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: hope you hunt like it until next week, Stay wired 712 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:30,959 Speaker 1: to Hunt.