WEBVTT - Wemby and Lakers struggle, Latest on Harden situation in Philly

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into NBA Pulster production of iHeartRadio in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Sarahkustak, NBA analysts for the S Network, and today

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<v Speaker 1>is Monday, October thirtieth. From our extraordinary core group of

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<v Speaker 1>NBA journalists, We're joined now by NBA dot Com senior

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<v Speaker 1>writer Sean pol And Sean was in the house. Wemby

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<v Speaker 1>Mania continues. San Antonio Spurs, Los Angeles Clippers. Victor Webbinyama

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<v Speaker 1>continues to draw a lot of attention. But the Clippers

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<v Speaker 1>were the one that prevailed last night one twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>eighty three win over the Spurs. There were seven Clippers

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<v Speaker 1>in double figures, but John first. The attention is and

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<v Speaker 1>has been and will continue to be on Victor Wembinyama,

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<v Speaker 1>who comes away from this game with eleven points. He's

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<v Speaker 1>four or ten from the field, h fifty percent from

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<v Speaker 1>the three throw line, taking six trips. From your perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>your vantage point, seeing him up close and personal in live,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you what did you take away from the

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<v Speaker 1>performers last night of wembe and just how he continues

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<v Speaker 1>to progress here in the very young young part of

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<v Speaker 1>his NBA career.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I would probably say this was well, not probably.

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<v Speaker 2>It was definitely his roughest outing of the season. It

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<v Speaker 2>was his first time in Los Angeles, you know, playing

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<v Speaker 2>before a really big you know, media contingent, bright lights,

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<v Speaker 2>all that. Even though it was the Clippers, people will say, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, wait till he plays the Lakers. The Clippers

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<v Speaker 2>are actually still pretty good, I think, as they show

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<v Speaker 2>winning by forty. But if you you know, never saw

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<v Speaker 2>him before, first of all, you say, oh, wow, he's tall.

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<v Speaker 2>That's first thing of course you're going to say, is

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<v Speaker 2>this is the guy who everyone hyped, you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>and again you had to really keep everything about wemben

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<v Speaker 2>Yama in perspective. Number one, he's only nineteen years old,

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<v Speaker 2>and then number two, he still hasn't filled out his body.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that really was a factor. It's the Clippers because

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<v Speaker 2>right away Robert Covington on him. They tried to get

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<v Speaker 2>really physical with him as much as the rules would allow.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you had a lot of help Kawhi, Leonard,

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Patoom, his countrymen from Fronts jumped in there as

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<v Speaker 2>well and gave him a couple elbows. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Clippers were probably sending him a message about what

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA life is really going to be like from

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<v Speaker 2>here for the next seventy nine or so games. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know when be Yama knew this coming in and

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<v Speaker 2>nothing's going to happen overnight with his body, obviously, that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to take some time. But he did show flashes.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he made a couple of nice moves. Russell

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<v Speaker 2>Westbrook really jumped as high as Russell Westbrook can jump

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<v Speaker 2>now and tried to block that shot. He didn't get it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you could see the look on Russell's face that

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<v Speaker 2>he blew an opportunity because players are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>taking their shots against him. They want to dunk on him,

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<v Speaker 2>they want to make him look bad, they want to

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<v Speaker 2>get their highlight against him. But the good thing about

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<v Speaker 2>this kid, women, y'am, and it keeps impressing me to

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<v Speaker 2>this day, Sarah. He is so mature. Nothing rattles him.

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<v Speaker 2>He could have a bad game, a bad moment, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>he stays even keeled. You have to like that about them.

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<v Speaker 2>Greg pop Fitch talked a lot about that about him, saying,

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<v Speaker 2>this kid has been a professional for a few years.

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<v Speaker 2>He's already seen it all, just in terms of the

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<v Speaker 2>hype and everything his parents have done. A good job,

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<v Speaker 2>and Poppa says, I better not screw this kid up,

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<v Speaker 2>because this kid came to me, you know, pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>already made from a maturity standpoint. Now his body just

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<v Speaker 2>has to mature. I think he's going to look he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a typical rookie. He's going to have

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<v Speaker 2>some ups and some downs. But I think his ups

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<v Speaker 2>are going to just give you that impression that while

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<v Speaker 2>he really is going to be the real deal, he's

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<v Speaker 2>already a very advanced offensively as he could be in

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<v Speaker 2>a running from both the Rookie of the Year award

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<v Speaker 2>and the Defensive Player of the Year award. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that's an outrageous statement to make after three games.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think the interesting part is those players

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<v Speaker 1>around him, right, I mean, you look, Devin Vessel comes

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<v Speaker 1>away with fourteen points, Calvin Johnson, but that's also going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a factor game to game and even the

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<v Speaker 1>game planning of the Clippers who were talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>seven players in double figures. A lot of what they're

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<v Speaker 1>predicated on is how strong and good they are defensively.

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<v Speaker 1>Ty Lou his ability to be able to be strategic

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<v Speaker 1>in scheme, and so I think for wim bin Yama.

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<v Speaker 1>There certainly will be with any rookie ups and downs,

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<v Speaker 1>but how it is that the complementary players around him

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<v Speaker 1>are able to contribute on a night by night basis

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<v Speaker 1>to free things up for him as well, and even

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<v Speaker 1>like a true point guard or a point guard that

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<v Speaker 1>understands how do you organize and best run the offense

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<v Speaker 1>facilitate for him. I think there's a lot of aspects

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<v Speaker 1>with this, and with the attention to your point that

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<v Speaker 1>it is going to be fluid, But over all, the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you've got a mature young player and an

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<v Speaker 1>individual like him who understands that and has a disposition

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<v Speaker 1>to handle this at the professional level, I think is

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<v Speaker 1>something where the optimism and the hope for what he

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<v Speaker 1>will become will continue. The flip side of things, Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to see this Clippers team, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>they've always been this on paper. What will they look

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<v Speaker 1>like with their health with if they're healthy, when they

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<v Speaker 1>have potentially players available, and it showed between Kawhi, Paul George,

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<v Speaker 1>what Russ looked like. You got some contributions off the

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<v Speaker 1>bench from Bones Highland, Norm Powell. What did you see

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<v Speaker 1>with the Clippers in terms of their aspirations to be

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<v Speaker 1>titled contenders this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Once again, Well, the most amazing thing about the Clippers

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<v Speaker 2>right now, no one has missed a game because of injury, Sarah. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>that's really we'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Throw what three games in?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that where we're at now?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, we're like, oh Kwi is good, Oh Russell Westbrook's good,

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<v Speaker 2>Paul George is good. I mean, really, when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the Clippers, that's first and from us. Interesting you

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<v Speaker 2>say that, sir, because their next two games are back

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<v Speaker 2>to back. They played for Orlando at home and then

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers at home. That Laker game is a pass

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<v Speaker 2>TV game, and you know how the NBA feels about

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<v Speaker 2>stars sitting out national TV games. So I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is the first big test for against San Antonio. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the first big test for the Clippers. Are they

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<v Speaker 2>going to have a full line up on the floor

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<v Speaker 2>for forty eight hour forty eight hours back to back games.

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<v Speaker 2>So then we'll see this team, which is sort of

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<v Speaker 2>like the poster child for the player participation participation policy,

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<v Speaker 2>how the Clipper is going to respond. As far as

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<v Speaker 2>on the court, I think they they played pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, they didn't look really great in their loss,

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<v Speaker 2>but their first their two wins have been relatively easy. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Kawhi looks good. You know, Paul Jeorges looks

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<v Speaker 2>good in Spurts, Russell Westbrook looks good, the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the supporting cat looks good as the team shout town

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<v Speaker 2>the lane. I really want to see how they play

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<v Speaker 2>against the Lakers. I really want to see how they

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<v Speaker 2>play once they really get on the road and have

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<v Speaker 2>a string of games. But I would probably say, so far,

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<v Speaker 2>so good. I just keep going back to the health

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<v Speaker 2>with this team, and you know, Paul George and Kawi

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<v Speaker 2>lernd this. I think we got year four together. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>are they going to be there in April, in May,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe if they make it that far in June.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, let's really judge them. They judge them then,

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<v Speaker 2>because we really haven't been able to judge the Clippers

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<v Speaker 2>accurately since that time. One guy's been out, both guys

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<v Speaker 2>have been been out, and it really hurt this team

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<v Speaker 2>at the end. So let's see them over like a

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<v Speaker 2>couple months, you know, wish them good health. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they'll play very well. I don't know if they're among

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<v Speaker 2>the elite of the elite. But that will tell us

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about this team and where it might be headed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, a couple teams trying and are among the

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<v Speaker 1>elite of the elite out in the West met last

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<v Speaker 1>night in Sacramento. The Kings and the Lakers went into overtime.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a thriller. Seven is the King's pulled away

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<v Speaker 1>with a win. Deer and Fox with thirty seven points

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<v Speaker 1>added eight assists. Kegan Murray was really strong with seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>off the bench. Malik Monk out to Morrow lines up

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<v Speaker 1>the scene. He ended up having twenty two points and

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<v Speaker 1>he was really special in overtime. Lebron James and another

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<v Speaker 1>masterpiece twenty seven to fifteen and eight seventeen for Dangelo Russell,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty for Torrian Prints. A lot of big numbers as

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<v Speaker 1>you can see with that game and with let's first

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<v Speaker 1>start with the Sacramento Kings, a team that was bounced

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<v Speaker 1>in seven games in the first round by the Golden

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<v Speaker 1>State Warriors. They come back with a lot of their

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<v Speaker 1>core pieces, but Deer and Fox is the showcase of

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<v Speaker 1>that one. How do you see this Sacramento team really

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<v Speaker 1>stacking up against some of the best here in the

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<v Speaker 1>Western Conference.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I saw how they stacked up against the Words

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<v Speaker 2>and not too pretty. Basically the game before they played

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers Steph Curry. You know, really we had what

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<v Speaker 2>forty one points against him and this game off of

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<v Speaker 2>the game seven last spring when he scored fifty points.

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<v Speaker 2>So ninety one points the Steph Curry and back to

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<v Speaker 2>back games. You know, I think the one thing about

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<v Speaker 2>the Sacramento Kings when you look at them, Number one,

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<v Speaker 2>did they catch the league by surprise a little bit?

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<v Speaker 2>Last year? You know, they had a great year, not

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<v Speaker 2>taking taking nothing from them, but you know, the Lakers

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<v Speaker 2>weren't completely healthy, the Clippers weren't completely healthy. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>when those teams had been better than Sacramento last year,

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<v Speaker 2>had they been healthy, probably whatever, we could play that

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<v Speaker 2>game every year. So and I'm not going to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>shortchange the Sacramento Kings. Mike Brown has done a great job.

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<v Speaker 2>Some bonus Darren Fox were All Stars last year. Malik

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<v Speaker 2>Monk was terrific off the bench, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>the way it's going to shape up so far this year. Fox,

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<v Speaker 2>what an incredible game. This guy just proved last year

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<v Speaker 2>how good he is in the clutch and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>against the Lakers, he basically shows out player on the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>With that he shares with Lebron James and Anthony Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>Bots oh Man, quick, Sid Drible got it to go off.

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<v Speaker 1>The rings is still looking for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Very good positive sign for the Sacramento Kings. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>tough place to play for visiting teams, and so look,

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that they have to have a next

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<v Speaker 2>step mentality. You know, now we can win fifty games.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we can go beyond the first round of the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>provided we don't meet step Curry the game seventies course,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty points Sarah. So I think that's the way they

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<v Speaker 2>have to look at themselves that this is a good

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<v Speaker 2>young cores. We're growing and we just happen next take

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<v Speaker 2>the next step, and suddenly whenever teams see us on

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<v Speaker 2>the calendar, they're not circling it anymore, saying we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to play our starters against him, or we can

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<v Speaker 2>wrest some guys against them. No, we have to play

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<v Speaker 2>hard against the Sacramento Kings. As far as the Lakers look, Ron,

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<v Speaker 2>it's mostly positive signs of Lebron James and Anthony Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>I would probably say that there's red flashing signs with

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like Austin Reeves, Gabe Benson, Rory Hatchamura. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>these were the guys who got contract extensions last year

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<v Speaker 2>or signed in free agency, and we haven't really seen

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<v Speaker 2>that much from them. You know, Austin Reeves has played

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<v Speaker 2>on Team USA. You know, that's a long summer, you

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<v Speaker 2>know for him, and you know, look it's a short

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<v Speaker 2>sample size. You know, he could come out and have

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<v Speaker 2>a fantastic game, you know, next next night out, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's it's been slow for him, it's been slow for

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<v Speaker 2>the supporting cast. And because of that, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>other night, Lebron James had to play the entire fourth

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<v Speaker 2>quarter of a game and they had to win against

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<v Speaker 2>the Phoenix Suns. The Lakers don't want to put him

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<v Speaker 2>in that position. That's why they want to manage.

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<v Speaker 1>His menut Sean so much for the minutes limitation thirty

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<v Speaker 1>nine minutes last night as well, so when they when

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<v Speaker 1>they need them to win, it's tough to teach him

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<v Speaker 1>on the bench under a thirty minute mark.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you said at Austin Reeves with five points

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<v Speaker 1>two points for gave Vincent off the bench early early

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<v Speaker 1>here in the season is we're picking things apart, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is going to be fun and interesting to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>And to your point, how this continues to progress with

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<v Speaker 1>their usage of Lebron James and you know there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of conversation about usage, Sean. In

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<v Speaker 1>one of those usages they're they're looking to get back

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor for the Philadelphia seventy six Ers is

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<v Speaker 1>James Harden. He was in the building. He did not

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<v Speaker 1>play last night for the seventy six Ers, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was in the building. We will get to that right

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<v Speaker 1>after the brand Welcome back to NBA Pulse. Sarahkustak joined

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<v Speaker 1>by Sean Powell. And Sean, We've we've been discussing the

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<v Speaker 1>Western Conference, but in the Eastern conferen friends, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's some clear delineation of who a lot of us

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<v Speaker 1>expect to be up towards the top with the Milwaukee Bucks,

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<v Speaker 1>with the Boston Celtics, but the Philadelphia seventy six Ers

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<v Speaker 1>are a team. Continue to keep your eyes on in

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<v Speaker 1>the ceiling for them, it is so high, but there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of X factors, one of those being

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<v Speaker 1>James Harden. So Philadelphia comes away last night with a

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<v Speaker 1>one twenty six to ninety eight win over the Portland Trailblazers.

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<v Speaker 1>Joel embiid another monster game thirty five points, fifteen rebounds,

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<v Speaker 1>seven assists, as for Tyres Maaxy as well with twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six points.

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<v Speaker 2>Patsy the baseline that tops swishes.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the conversation was about James Harden. He

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<v Speaker 1>was in the building, he was on the bench. He

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<v Speaker 1>is expected to practice with the team on Tuesday. Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Nurse discussed it a bit in just saying, all signs

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<v Speaker 1>are positive by all accounts, the conditioning and the ramp

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<v Speaker 1>up that they feel like he still needs is taking place.

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<v Speaker 1>From your perspective, what do you see with this James

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<v Speaker 1>Harden situation and how you expect it to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>play out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anything has changed. I think James still

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<v Speaker 2>feels the way he feels. Look, is he going to

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<v Speaker 2>go back on his his his summertime vow to never

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<v Speaker 2>be associated with you know, with the team led by

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Daryl Morey, you know, I mean, if he

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<v Speaker 2>plays then he wasn't being completely accurate, But again he

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<v Speaker 2>risked some financial penalties. They risks more history of reputation

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<v Speaker 2>if this keeps up. I mean, look, I think in

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<v Speaker 2>certain situations, the love of the game has to take

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<v Speaker 2>over any other emotion. The love of the game. This

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<v Speaker 2>is why you're hear it to play basketball. So when

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<v Speaker 2>you when you come back and you play basketball, things

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<v Speaker 2>tend to take care of themselves. But you got to

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<v Speaker 2>play basketball first. And you know, how is Joel and

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<v Speaker 2>be feeling about this? You know, this is your guy,

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<v Speaker 2>this is your team. This is a guy you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be aligned next to. The guy that helped you

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<v Speaker 2>lead the NBA and assists last year, the guy you

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<v Speaker 2>helped get the MVP Award. This is a team that

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<v Speaker 2>needs you, you know, to try to the throne. The

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<v Speaker 2>Milwaukee Bucks, spots of Celtics, Miami Heat, whoever else is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be your main contender in the East. And

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<v Speaker 2>again that's just me. James Harden is wired differently. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we know this, Sarah. I don't know if he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to continue holding this grudge, but he was in

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<v Speaker 2>a building, he was on the bench. But until James

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<v Speaker 2>Harden seems something played, the storyline is always going to

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<v Speaker 2>be James Harden. And how long this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>keep up?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think you say for love of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one and also two for love of your teammates.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the aspect is you continue to

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<v Speaker 1>watch the seventy six or team. This is a team

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<v Speaker 1>that does have the pieces and the potential to compete

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<v Speaker 1>for a title. And so that's where when you've watched

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<v Speaker 1>how they come out in the early part of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>how they've played, the growth of Tyres Maxie, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of factors that you wonder what it could look like

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<v Speaker 1>if they do get a James Harden similar to who

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<v Speaker 1>they saw last season leading the league in in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and assists. But overall, I think to your point that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot to figure out, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>it does rest on what James ultimately decides and what

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<v Speaker 1>his ultimate goal is out of this and how he

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<v Speaker 1>is playing this situation, and also what the seventy six

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<v Speaker 1>ers are are willing to do or concede. So something

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<v Speaker 1>that we will continue to keep our eyes on, as

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<v Speaker 1>we do always shone with with the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>league and across the league. We appreciate your time, safe

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<v Speaker 1>travels to you. I know we're going to be talking

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<v Speaker 1>with you soon. Michael c. Wright will be joining us

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<v Speaker 1>with some early early MVP conversation this Friday, but we

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<v Speaker 1>will be talking to very soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Once again, I'm looking forward to it's Sarah as usual.

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