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Johnny Ken Show, John Cobalt and 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: Ken CHAMPOKF I Am six forty live everywhere on the 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. Well. Fentanyl. Fentanyl, of course, has become a 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: real danger in this country. Fentanyl is a very very dangerous, 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: dangerous drug. A lot of it comes imported. It is 15 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: fifty times more powerful than heroine and fifty to one 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: hundred times more potent than morphee. Two milligrams is a 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: potentially fatal dose for most people, and it is to 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: give a perspective, A teaspoon and a fentnyl contains about 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: five thousand milligrams, so there have been a rising number 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: of deaths related to fentnyl drug poisoning. Two milligrams is 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: like ten to fifteen grains of salt. That's a small amount. 22 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: That's how little it takes to kill you. In twenty 23 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: twenty one, a record number of Americans, over one hundred 24 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: and seven thousand died from a drug poisoning or overdose, 25 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: and sixty percent of those deaths can be attributed to 26 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: synthetic opioids such as fentnyl. Now we're going to talk 27 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: about what's happening out in Riverside County, which was profiled 28 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: in a recent story about what the DA there and 29 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: the sheriff are doing to try to step up prosecuting 30 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: people who have been involved in fentnyl dealing. Let's get 31 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: the sheriff, Chad Beyond. Yeah, sheriff, how are you welcome again? 32 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm doing good, Thanks guys, thanks for having me on. 33 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: So you've arrested twenty two people in connection with fentonel 34 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: deaths since you started this war against the fentnel business 35 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: in Riverside. That's just since the beginning what twenty twenty one, Huh, yes, 36 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: it's we're about eighteen months. So it was a little 37 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: bit after twenty twenty one mid year, somewhere around there 38 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: is when we started. And yes, twenty two people have 39 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 1: been arrested for murder in their part play, in their 40 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: part in supplying Fenconel to someone that died. Now, it's 41 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: supposed to be tricky to charge somebody who supplies a 42 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: drug with murder. I know they were trying to get 43 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: a stronger law passed in Sacramento, but the idiot Democrats 44 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: refused to do it. Are these prosecutions difficult to pull off? 45 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: They are. They're extremely difficult. The laws are certainly not 46 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: set up to assist us in any way in providing 47 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: victims assistance and their families justice. They're definitely set up 48 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: for these suspects. And you're exactly right. We could not 49 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: get anything passed through our legislature that adds any type 50 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: of a crime to or a punishment for a crime 51 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: to anyone. That's just their agenda. And it's it's heartening 52 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: they or disheartening. I'm sorry, it's but these investigations they're 53 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: extremely difficult, they're extremely lengthy, and it's it takes a lot, 54 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: a lot of investigative detail to get the evidence needed 55 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: for our prosecutors to be able to handle these cases 56 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: and get them through court. What kind of evidence do 57 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: you have to collect to get the district attorney to 58 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: file a case for murder? There's I honestly, I don't 59 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: want to tell you every thing that we have to 60 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: get because I don't want we're certainly making an impact 61 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: here where where the people selling drugs know that if 62 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: they sell drugs in Riverside County and someone dies from it, 63 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: that we are going to arrest them for murder and 64 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: charge them and try them. I will tell you that 65 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: it is very, very detailed and tactical investigation in the 66 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: things that we need to prove that they are the 67 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: ones that supplied those drugs that killed the individual that 68 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: took them. Yeah. I see in this story that you 69 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: said your county average is eighty to one hundred homicides 70 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: a year and you have twenty investigators, When when it 71 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: comes to fentnyl, you got four investigators in the sergeant 72 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: for four hundred and eighty two active fentnyl related deaths 73 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: county wide. That sounds like an overwhelming job. It is overwhelming, 74 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: and I have to tell you that those four hundred 75 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: and eighty that they are actively pursuing. Those are the 76 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: cases that we have determined do have the potential of 77 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 1: reaching the point where we can arrest someone for murder. 78 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: That's not all of the deaths we have. That's not 79 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: all of the people that are dying. It's just the 80 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: ones that we have gone through that it looks on 81 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: its face that we do have enough and there is 82 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: that potential to gather that important information that shows that 83 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: that person is the one that supplied that that drug. 84 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: And they's there's a lot of search warrants involved, there's 85 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: a lot of interviewing involved. It's a it's a very detailed, 86 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: tedious investigation that quite honestly that those numbers just what 87 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: you said, the five guys, that one supervisor, four guys 88 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: working nearly one hundred cases each. It's it's overwhelming. Okay, 89 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: So what's what's the long term What's what's the long term? 90 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 1: I don't know. Program that we need here is strategy. 91 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the cooperation of the state government, because 92 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: there's no way you're going to be able to round 93 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: up all these uh fentaal pushers that are killing people. Yeah, 94 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: you're never going to have the personnel, that's right, and 95 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: so with what we have, we know that we know 96 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: we can't go ask for more money to hire a 97 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: hundred more investigators. So we're having to multipurpose our deputies 98 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: and our and our station investigators to assist with these investigations, 99 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: to handle interviews, to handle with the evidence gathering, to 100 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: handle handle the forensic uh, you know, processes of electronic 101 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: data and things like that. But in the end, it's 102 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: going to take the state actually wanting to do something 103 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: to stop the fentyel desks in this state. Our legislators 104 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: are are really doing a serious disservice to this state, 105 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: and it's there's they should be being held accountable. It's 106 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: amazing how little they care. They have to adjust to 107 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: this because this is a growing problem that's only come 108 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: on the forefront in the last several years. They have 109 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: to change the tactics and understand that that the fentylle 110 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: is really killing people. All right, cash you something. Because 111 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: a friend of mine, her son at college, wanted he 112 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: was he was upset and jenery over something and wanted 113 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: to xanax and got is Zanix from someone I don't 114 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: know who. The xanix was laced with fentanyl and he 115 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: nearly died, had to be rushed to the hospital. A 116 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: story like that is that common among the people you 117 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: have found who died of fentanyl, that they were trying 118 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: to get some other kind of pill, maybe more innocent, 119 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: and yes, so that that the short answer is that 120 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: is exactly what is happening. And for that person, there 121 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: was no zanyx in that pill. So what we're finding 122 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: is all of these these pills, whether it's a xanix, 123 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: an oxycodone, a percocet, a valum, all of those types 124 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: of drugs are being manufactured to look like that drug, 125 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: same marking, same color as everything, but really they're just 126 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: they're nothing but fentinel and binder. So it's the person 127 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: may be ordering an oxycodone off of Snapchat or a vicodin, 128 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, and really it's a complete 129 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: elicit sentinel pill that has nothing to do other than 130 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: it looks like it. And so these people they may 131 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, maybe that that that child has taken that 132 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: pill many times in the past with no side effects. No, 133 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, he may feel a little bit. It's just 134 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: a prescription pill. But when you have and you think 135 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: you can just do it again and that one time 136 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: with that one fentinyl pill. One pill kills that's the 137 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: that's the storyline of the campaign against this. And they 138 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: it's and it's fast. It's not a prolonged death where 139 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: you know it takes you feel yourself going out. This 140 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: is within seconds. The business of drug pushers is to 141 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: get people addicted or to maintain their addiction. But now 142 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: they're selling pills that that kill their customers. What what 143 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: what is the motivation here for handing out deadly poison. 144 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: It's it's the whole thing about new customers and greed 145 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: of money. Fentinel is extremely cheap, like like a hundred 146 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: the cost of the regular drug in some cases, and 147 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: it's extremely cheap to make, and it is so addicting 148 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: that we are finding it now in every drug so 149 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: for instance, methamphetamine. Methamphetamine is still being abused, but the 150 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: chances of you dying from an overdose of methamphetamine are 151 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: extremely low. The problem now is in order to addict 152 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: those people more, to get it physically addicting with that narcotic, 153 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: they're adding fentyl to it and so you don't even know, 154 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: you think you're just taking your normal methamphetamine, but it's 155 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: that sentinel in it to make it addicting. So now 156 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: you have to go back more repeatedly, and you're going 157 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: back to that same dealer because they have a better 158 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: drug than the other guy down the street. So they're 159 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: making more clients, and it's cheaper because of the cost 160 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: of the fentanyl, And it's all about more clients. It's 161 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: that more addiction because some people may casually take methamphetamine, 162 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: may casually be a cocaine user or a heroin user, 163 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: or even a fentanyl user, but it is so addicting 164 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: that you're no longer casual anymore. You need more and 165 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: more often. And the manufacturing process is just so sloppy 166 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: that many of these pills are going to be loaded 167 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: with too much fentnel. Yes, I mean, I don't want 168 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: to seem simplistic, but imagine a bathtub of binder and 169 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: then you dump a bag of fentanyl in it and 170 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: stir it up with a stick and then make pills 171 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: out of it. So the chances of you getting you 172 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: described earlier the small amount needed to kill a person. Imagine, 173 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: it's not scientific mixing, it's just some of it's with 174 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: a blender or even with a spoon a stick, and 175 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: so you never know how much fentyl is in that pill. 176 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: The federal government has estimated that forty percent of the 177 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: fentanyl pills that are out there contain a lethal dose. 178 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: And that's astronomical. Wow, that's really dangerous. This is all 179 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: coming in from Mexico. It is completely coming in from Mexico. 180 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: All the fentanyl is being made in China. It's being 181 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: smuggled into Mexico or taken into Mexico. It's it used 182 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: to be it was being fashioned into pills in Mexico, 183 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: but now with the open border, it's just being brought 184 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: over in bulk in powder, and so we're seeing the 185 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: pills and the powder form and it's just being smuggled 186 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: across the border and into our streets. Sheriff Bianco, thanks 187 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: for talking to us. We really appreciated and good work 188 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: with what you and the DA are doing out there 189 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: in Riverside County on fentnyl. Thanks guys, thanks for trying 190 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: to bring this out all right. That Sheriff Chad Bianco. 191 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: They were featured in a Press Enterprise story about teaming 192 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: up the sheriff and the district attorney to prosecute suspected 193 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: drug dealers for murder in fentnyl related deaths. More coming 194 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: up kf I am six forty live everywhere in the 195 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app well, the headline for the Vegan is this, 196 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: and John Cobelt loved the story so much he sent 197 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: it twice. The Great Vegan Diet con how a plant 198 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: based lifestyle is not always better for your health and 199 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: could lead to brittle bones, anemia and oh, Deborah Mark 200 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: hair loss. Oh no, not that you're gonna end up bald, 201 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: bald and broken. It's just a crumple of bones on 202 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: the ground. I will not that girl. It does say 203 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: that a poorly planned vegan diet can be dangerous for 204 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: your health. These are people that buy a lot of 205 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: the processed vegan food, which I do not. This vindicates me, though. 206 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: It's just here. Yes, uh, there's been a surgeon highly 207 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: processed vegan foods made to taste like the real thing. Yeah, 208 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: but everybody else is pushing this crap right now. I 209 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: don't know if it's selling because we're seeing beyond meat 210 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: burgers dropping like a rock, vegan cheeses, meat free burgers, 211 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: non dairy ice cream, she doesn't need any of that 212 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: except the non dairy ice cream I do eat made 213 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: with coconut milk or almond milk, oat milk. That's her exception, 214 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: like the leather boots. No, this is not. No, that's 215 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: not there's nothing hypocritical about about consuming non dairy ice cream. Well, 216 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: it says they cram them full of unhealthy oil, starch 217 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: and other ingredients, high and saturated fat, sugar, and salt. 218 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: That you would do it to get people to feel 219 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: like a taste good, to achieve the impossible task of 220 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: making bland vegetables, or to incredible. I don't eat tofu either. 221 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: You're an independent vegan, Yes, I guess that's why you 222 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: still hypocritical vegan. You still have your hair then? I? Well, yes, K, 223 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: can you not see I don't know if that's a wig? 224 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm okay. Look ow. They've also got depression on the 225 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: list here of what can happen to a vegan. We 226 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: know you have that problem. Well only when I come 227 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: in here. The human body eats thirteen hundred milligrams of 228 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: calcium to maintain healthy bones, which you get from yogurt's, 229 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: cheese and milk dairy that she won't eat supplements, but 230 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: I've a ready. Supplements can't make up what's in natural foods. 231 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: Vegans are more than twice as likely to suffer a 232 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: hip fracture, ankle injury, or other bone damage on their 233 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: leg because of the lack of calcium. Right, they consume 234 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: nearly only half the amount of daily calcium as meat eaters. 235 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: You get about six hundred milligrams a day. A meat 236 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: eater gets over a thousand. You're at risk of fractures. 237 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: I'll just be careful, what can I say? And then 238 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: losing weight leaves less cushioning for bones when someone falls. See, Oh, 239 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: it's a good idea. You're right. You should have a 240 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: little fat flap there if you have a fat rare 241 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: end that takes the shock. Yeah, no, I don't know, 242 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: not interested in that. Yeah, we're just gonna find you 243 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: a crumple of bones one day, maybe began. Women have 244 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: a higher risk of breaking their hips later in life 245 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: compared to meat eaters. They did a study in twenty 246 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: twenty two. Yeah, they looked at twenty six thousand middle 247 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: aged women, and those who did not eat meat had 248 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: a thirty three percent higher risk of fractures. So give 249 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: her a hip bump and see what happened. Um they looked. 250 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: Found after five years, vegans thirty percent more likely to 251 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: suffer a fracture. Is Normally, the body manufactures enough red 252 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: blood cells to supply adequate oxygen to all cells, allowing 253 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: them to carry out daily functions. But in an EMICs, 254 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: there are too few red blood cells for this task. 255 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: And one way you can get meat eaters. So usually 256 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: and heavy meat eaters are not anemic. That is a 257 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: source of what you need there to know to reduce 258 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: the chance of being anemic. Trusted, every year I get 259 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: a full physical, lots of blood work done. I'm okay, 260 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: see I have strong, rich blood. Yeah, but only seven 261 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: percent of vegans suffer from anemia. But it is double 262 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: the number from meat eaters. So now let's get into 263 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: hair loss. That's not what about stroke B twelve deficiency? No, 264 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: you know, I take a B twelve Suffering. Hair is 265 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: not an essential tissue to the body, it's optional. When 266 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: there's a deficiency of key nutrients, the body may discard it. 267 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: If you're not eating enough of the correct foods, this 268 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: can result in excessive shedding. What are the correct foods 269 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: to keep your hair be meat eats again. Back to 270 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: your eats meat really? Oh yeah, you're right. Hair is 271 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: made of keratin, which is made from several different proteins 272 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: found an animal tissue. Yeah wow, sorry, Well you know what, 273 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: that's why we have wigs. I don't have one now, 274 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: but if I need one one day, then I'll have 275 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: to deal with that. Yeah. Vitamin B or iron deficiency 276 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: can trigger hair loss B twelve, Yeah, she said, she 277 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: takes up. We already went over that, John. The anemia 278 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: it causes, would you have hair extensions? Don't lie? I 279 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: do not. I've never ever had a hair extension. The 280 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: anemia it causes leads to two little oxygen getting to 281 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: areas like the scalp, and I bet you it doesn't 282 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: get to the brain much either. Well that we know that. 283 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: And they also found a bunch of Brazilians people on 284 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: a vegan diet where twice is likely to be depressed. 285 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: But I credit that one to just that's kind of 286 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 1: an obsessive personality can get depressed easy because they two 287 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: worked up over everything. You just don't want to end 288 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: up depressed and bald. Oh thank you for caring and broken. 289 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: I'll take that all under consideration. I'll be a hot 290 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: mess one day. I'll walk in here and you won't 291 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: even recognize me more. Coming up, John and Ken kf 292 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: I am six forty live on the iHeartRadio app. So 293 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: Steve Lange is coming on. He's one of our listeners. 294 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: The headline is San Clementi is losing beach sand. The 295 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: city is hiving a consultant to find a solution. It's 296 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: even stopped the railroad from running through there because it's 297 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: very close to the edge. Railroad damage caused by strong 298 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: surf and high tides. They have halted commuter service along 299 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: the coast and southern San Clementi until at least mid December, 300 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: where they can make emergency repairs. Now. Yeah, John mentioned 301 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: Steve Lange. He wrote to us with obviously he's a 302 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: resident and he can tell us more about this, and 303 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: what do you think this is the problem. So let's 304 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: get them on. Let's get Steve here. How are you, 305 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: Steve good? Can you hear me? Yes? We can. So 306 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: according to your letter, ten years ago, there was eighty 307 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: yards of beach in San Clementi and now there's nothing. Yeah. 308 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: I live in a community called the Cypress Shore and 309 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: it's right at the border of the San Diego Orange 310 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: County line, right where the old Nixon Whitehouse was. It's 311 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: called Cotton's Point. It's a famous sirrup break. We have 312 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: lowered chessels, upper chessels, cottons and it's a big surrup break. 313 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: And so our beach we have, we have our own 314 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: beach and sider shore. This a few hundred yards wide 315 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: and it used to be eighty two one hundred yards wide. 316 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: We had four volleyball courts, We had barbecues, picnic tables, 317 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: swing sets, showers and the like. And now we have 318 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: a breakwall. All the sand is one hundred percent gone. 319 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: I save you guys some pictures photos. Yeah, we can 320 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: see that they're dramatic. What's caused this? Is this gradual 321 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: or was there some monster storm that took out most 322 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: of the sand at once? It's both. Um. The city 323 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: of San Clementi has had a sand replenishment program in 324 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: the works for twenty five years. Sand comes from San yeah, exactly. 325 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: Be sand comes from erosion, mainly the riverbeds, So we 326 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: have our riverbed feeders. Their main one we have is 327 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: San Juan Creek, which comes out at Dohiti and in 328 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: uh San Juan Capestrano, and then we have San Mateo 329 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: Creek in sant Ainopri Creek, and when it rains, water 330 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: runs down the aquafer from all the valleys inland and 331 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: it washes out into the ocean, and then the waves 332 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: distributed onto the beach. And so our beaches in South 333 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: Orange can Money are I don't know, billions of years old. 334 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, but they've been there forever since I 335 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: was a kid. And so once we've developed all of 336 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: the communities and all along the coast, everywhere we've we've 337 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: basically eliminated natural sandary plenishment. So this is not new. 338 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: It's not new news. The government knows about it, everybody 339 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: should know about it. But nothing's happened for a long time. 340 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of reasons. I don't want to 341 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: see anybody into the bus because I can't really speak 342 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: to that so much. But in twenty fourteen, we had 343 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: a hurricane named Marie, and it was a Category five hurricane, 344 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: and I had the storm was ninety miles off of 345 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: our coast, and so when Marie came with all the surfers, 346 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, all the magazines were talking about it for 347 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: weeks and weeks and weeks. It was the best biggest 348 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: surfer he's had in Suary, California, maybe fifty years and 349 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: so and the surfer will he called it going off. 350 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: It was everything was really good. But she came in 351 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: in the ways where lasted for days and they were, 352 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: you know, twenty foot faces plus and she destroyed took 353 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: so much stand off of our beaches. It was it's incredible. 354 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: And so after that, each succeeding south swell that came 355 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: in would take more and more stand and it's just 356 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: it's disappeared dramatically rapidly. And like you said in your 357 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: lead in the city of Saint Clement's hired an environmental 358 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: engineering consulting firm to investigate why the stand has gone 359 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: so fast, But most all the surfers, all of us 360 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: know that it's just been going and it doesn't come back. 361 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 1: And so we've been pussibly been in a drought for 362 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: I think sixteen out of last twenty years, and so 363 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: there's been no natural sand replenishment. And so now we 364 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: are at the focal point at Cotton's Point. So are 365 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: we probably got hit the worst, But all of the 366 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: beaches south and north of us have been devastated over 367 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: the last few decades and there's no natural replenishment. Is 368 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: this something the city doesn't want to pay for? Well, 369 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: the city there's They've got a there's a federal grant 370 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: and a state grant, and this is what I've been told, 371 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: and the city has put their money in to pay 372 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: for this. The mayor at Sant co Many, his name 373 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: is Tim Brown, was the mayor I don't know five 374 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: eight years ago. He was the mayor twice. Actually in 375 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. He made a video in Sant cole Many 376 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: about getting the Sandary Planish in two thou seventeen, which 377 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: would have helped then. But now there's so much sand 378 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: has gone. The Sandary plenishment program that's supposed to be 379 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: now instituted it's twenty five years, is now supposed to 380 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: be here next. All that is like putting forty gallons 381 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: of water in your swimming pool. It's it's nothing. And 382 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: so I guess what I'm wondering, is this chest part 383 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: of the natural cycle of life along the shore because 384 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: there has been a drought for like you said, sixteen 385 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: out of the last twenty years, and so you're not 386 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: getting all the sediment rushing off the rivers anymore, and 387 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: you're getting storms that occasionally wipe out the sand. Like, 388 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: is this something that there's no point to spending the 389 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: money because you could have a few bad years where 390 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: nature goes the wrong way and you're you're back to 391 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: zero again. You got to spend the money all over again. No, 392 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: it's I disagree in my opinion is that we let 393 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: it get so bad that it's now become devastated, and 394 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: so the man it's a man made problem. Man has 395 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: eliminated erosion. We've in there's concrete companies in San Juan 396 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: Creek that have been taking sand out of the out 397 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: of the creek for decades and decades and decades and 398 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: so uh and then a lot of the river beds 399 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: are cemented, and then all the hillside and bluff side 400 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: development does not allow for natural standard plenishment. So the 401 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: only way that we can fix it or rectify it 402 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: is do it ourselves. I see. Uh, yeah, I don't 403 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: have an opinion on it. I was just I'm just 404 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: asking up, But what what about what does it do 405 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: to the town? I mean, do you end up getting 406 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: hurt economically? Are there fewer visitors? Did the beaches attract 407 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of people? Yeah, you know, Yeah, 408 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: there's signs on the freeway it says Beach City is 409 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: next exit. And if you get off and there's no beach, what, 410 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: you know, what's happening? And uh, it's it's dramatic, there's 411 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: it's you know, you can see from those pictures. Yeah, 412 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: And the railroad tracks are so close to the ocean 413 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: now it's bizarre looking. Yeah, And the railroad tracks have 414 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: been there forever. But there was a buffer of sand. 415 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: It's ween the mainland on the other side of the tracks, 416 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: and the tracks themselves in the ocean. There was the 417 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: sand buffers. What kind of trains go down that track, Well, 418 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: it's the Surf line, I think they call it, the 419 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: Amtrak trains, the Amtrak train. Well, then they also run 420 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: freight at night. Well, well then you need that track, right, 421 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: Amtrak and the freight lines. That's uh big priority here, 422 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: It's a big priority. And it's uh. And so because 423 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: of the loss of sand in our neighborhood, we have 424 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: a landslide that's devastated our our neighborhood dramatically. And the 425 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: sand act is a natural buffer and once the sand 426 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: left water basically roughly soaks underneath the railroad track. I 427 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: was thinking the federal government would have a big interest 428 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: in replenishing the sand because otherwise that railroad track is 429 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: going to be gone. Amen, brother, But they're not doing 430 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: anything exactly. Well, no, they are doing something right now 431 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: that the amtracker octa is um has a plan, an 432 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: emergency plan because this landslide has not h stopped yet. 433 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: It's still moving slightly. And the landslide in our neighborhood 434 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: moved about four feet, dropped four ft, so we have 435 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: a new four foot clip. There's two inside of our neighborhood. 436 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: There's two houses that are red tag that are sliding, 437 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: and um, it's it's just been devastating. So the railroad 438 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: has a plan right now to spend twelve million dollars 439 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: to a point one mite I believe to put a 440 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: tie ac system in to arrest this landslide, and that 441 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: and in the railroad line itself is in jeopardy of 442 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: having uh you know, the our neighborhood fall on top 443 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: of it. So they are they are working feverishly right 444 00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: now to fix that. And they've stopped pedestrian rail service 445 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: for I think until December. I heard the trains haven't 446 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: been running for a few weeks. Well, it is my 447 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: hope right now on the John and Ken Show. Seriously, 448 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: don't hope this topic has come up before. We want 449 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: to bring the meat eater and the animal lover together 450 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: and make peace. What that would be you the animal lover. 451 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: That would be John the meat eater. Good luck with that. 452 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: Never the FDA has given a safety nod to no 453 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: kill Meat. It could be for sale soon in the 454 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: United States. What is no kill meat? No kill Meat 455 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: is produced by a company out of San Francisco called 456 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: Upside Foods San Francisco. It was co founded by Uma Valetti, 457 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: a cardiologist who dreamed of producing meat in a different way. 458 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: Instead of raising livestock on farms and killing them in 459 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: slaughter houses, he wanted to find a way to grow 460 00:27:55,040 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: them in a production facility by culturing animal cells. This 461 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: idea came to him years ago when he was seeing 462 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: heart attack patients at the Mayo Clinic and they would 463 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: grow human heart cells in a lab. He says, if 464 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: you could do that, why couldn't you grow meat? Oh? 465 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: You could, I guess you can extract cells from an 466 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: animal with a needle biopsy, place them in tanks, feed 467 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: them nutrients they need to proliferate, including fats, sugar, amino acids, 468 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: and vitamins, and you end up with meat. He says, 469 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: tastes exactly the same. Then I bring us up because 470 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: always say say I know, because we're seeing a real downturn. 471 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: This beyond meat. This, these meat substitute products apparently are 472 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: tumbling in the marketplace because they don't taste good. There's 473 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: beyond meat. What's the other one? Impossible burger meat. There's 474 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: not an ounce of meat in there, So that's why 475 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: it's not going to taste like it. It's a fake 476 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: name on a fake product. So what if there's a 477 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: moratorium on killing animals and this is this is all 478 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: you got, John, You got to have this type of 479 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: meat or you gotta go be a vegetarian or a vegan. 480 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: Do you know people are eating more meat now than ever? Yeah, 481 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: you always say that because it's always true. Well, I mean, 482 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: right now, it's chicken. He says. They're gonna possibly move 483 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: over to other species, which I guess would eventually be 484 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: steak and beef. H Well, it's it's it's got to 485 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: taste the same and it has to have the same flavor, 486 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: the same feel when you bite into it. They took 487 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: years of experimentation, a crew of biologists, biochemistists, biochemists to 488 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: turn this product into something that could be eaten. But 489 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: you're right, the real test is in the taste. So 490 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: don't you adopt a new sense of taste so that 491 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: you don't have to have it taste like real meat? 492 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: Are you mocking me? How do you adopt a new 493 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: sense of time? Just saying maybe you just widen your 494 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: taste buds. I don't know. That's a heck of an operation. 495 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You need to evolve, John, 496 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: Why don't you process what I'm saying before answering though 497 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: quickly evolve? Is that what you just asked me to 498 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: do is to evolve. I am trapped in my cave, 499 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: I know, but you can change. There's there's there's plenty 500 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: of time for that. He did warn me this was 501 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: a long shot to bring you two together on this. 502 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: So I mean now that the big story is the 503 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: FDA has approved this, So the next step is that 504 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: they can manufacture for human consumption. They're not going to 505 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: be able to make much though. No, But obviously if 506 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: people take to it, that's easy. There is a picture 507 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: here they're looking at a recently cooked chicken breast on 508 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: a plate. It looks like any other chicken breast. Well, 509 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: it all looks good. I mean, even one of those 510 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: fakes eat burgers that was the one that was presented 511 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: to me a few years ago when we were at 512 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: Chef Bruno's that looked good. Seventy two percent of baby 513 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: boomers and eighty two eighty eight percent of gen zeers 514 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: who were asked said they would be open to try 515 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: and cultivated meat. That's basically what it's what it's called. Well, yeah, 516 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: you're try it. You're open to try it once, but 517 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: there can't be a weird aftertaste. When I ate one 518 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: of those fake meat burgers, the first bite was okay, 519 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: and then after a few seconds like, oh you know, 520 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: there was some you know, just awful aftertaste. What about 521 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: adding I don't know, ketchup mustard something just to disguise 522 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: it the sky. If you have to disguise, it means 523 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: it taste bad, But then it means no animals are killed. 524 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, thee I always says this when 525 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: she's trying to get me to eat vegetables. She goes, well, 526 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, I can melt a lot of cheese on 527 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: it and then you can taste the vegetable. Well, the 528 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: one I'm not going to seat the cheese now that 529 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: the developer here says, and he gave a good response. 530 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: The porter who was given a sample a pan. The 531 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: pan fried chicken. It was cooked in white wine butter sauce, 532 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: which she said, well, everything tastes good. But she says 533 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: it's good and it tastes like chicken because it is chicken. 534 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: Because it is chicken. It's cultivated from the actual cells 535 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: of chicken. It's not some made up pea smash peas 536 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: or soy or hold on. You can take my right 537 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: arm and make a burger out of it and it'll 538 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: taste good with white wine butter sauce. But it would 539 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: still be you. So if somebody was accountable, but I 540 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: think they could eat you direct or they could take 541 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: a cell out of your arm and cultivate you in 542 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: a lab and eat if you would be the same. 543 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: You could put white wine butter sauce on almost anything. 544 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: It'll taste good. Yeah, they probably shouldn't have served it 545 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: that way, but that's how people eat chicken. There a 546 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: lot of people don't eat chicken without any seasoning on it. 547 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: So you know, you gotta be realistic about this, except 548 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: for you. You eat a steak with nothing, right, put 549 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: anything on a steak Salt? Yes, well what those at 550 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: steak seasoning? What about steak sauce? No, no, nothing, liquid, nothing, 551 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: malk butter on it? Yeah, a little salt, you don't 552 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: think give it, give it all the different flavors. But no, no, no, 553 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: no sauce. Now the story says it's still gonna be meat. 554 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: So vegans and vegetarians may not take to this because 555 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: it's still meat. 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