1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to Normally the show with normalist 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: takes for when the news gets weird. I'm Mary Cathay 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Hail and Carol Markowitz. 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: The news has been somewhat weird, not overly so I 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: think people are still adjusting to the election results. But 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: the appointments have started rolling in and commentary on those 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: appointments has been a bit hysterical. 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: So I think there's like a it's not as bad 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: as last time, was as bad as last time, so 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: that's it's a mild improvement. And I do think there 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: needs to be like a def con chart there where 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: you should be if you're a person in the press 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: covering Trump and like whether you should be worried about 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: whatever he's doing it any given helment. The problem is 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: they can't gauge, so they just like kind of freak 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: out about everything, and that that's not a good way 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: to do news. And I would say that this transition 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: compared to his last one because he didn't know he 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: was going to win last time, is much smoother. As 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: a professional who's like we're cranking through these names, right, 21 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: We're hitting them quickly. It feels like there's a plan. Yeah, 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: So I think that helps. 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I also have really liked almost all 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: of the picks at all, but almost all, almost all. 25 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: I feel particularly defensive of the Pete Hexth pick, not 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: just because I've met Pete. You know, I can't say 27 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: we're friends, but we're friendly, We've hung out. I really 28 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: like him and his wife. But I think that there's 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: just this air of elitism that is in play about 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: his pick. And I would say that it is probably 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: because he's a good looking man and he looks you know. 32 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: I I the first time I ever met him, I 33 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: was like, he looks like like an action movie star, 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: like I want my son's to meet him. But he 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: I feel like he is like looks for getting in 36 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: the way of people realizing he went to Yale and Harvard, 37 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: he has two Bronze Stars, he did three deployments. He's, 38 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 2: you know, not some pretty boy dummy, which is what 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: the media is portraying him as. And I just think 40 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: he's such a breath of fresh air for this role. 41 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: I think that the position, you know, leading the defense department, 42 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 2: being at the head of that, I think it's not 43 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: really what people think. It's not actually like planning warfare 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: and doing stuff like that. It's really motivating that department, 45 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: changing the culture, getting enlistments up, which are super down. 46 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: I think people big incredible spokesman for that department, and 47 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: I just think all around, he is a fantastic pick 48 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: if you didn't want out of the box picks, if 49 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: you wanted the same bureaucrats that we've always had. Electing 50 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: Donald Trump was a mistake. So here we are. I 51 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: well pro pete Hegseth all the way. 52 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I do think. Uh, I've largely been 53 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: satisfied with these picks, and to the point that it 54 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: makes me wonder, like I'm not necessarily the cons constituency 55 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: he's trying to serve, so like if I'm not disturbed 56 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: yet or concerned, other people. 57 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: Might be mad comfortable. 58 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, But on the heg Seth point, I think a 59 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: couple of things. I think it's fair to have like 60 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of reservation and say, Okay, he's never 61 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: run a giant organization before. I do not believe that 62 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: that's not something you can hire for and like surround 63 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: yourself with people for I hate this thing where the 64 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: media is like, first, first of all, they're all TV hosts, right, 65 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: like and they're. 66 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: Like, jo I read is just like, he's just a 67 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: TV host, like you, ladies, like. 68 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: You, You're a TV host and you tell all of 69 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: us what to do all the time, all the time. 70 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: So there's that. But I hate that they say that 71 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: that's all he is. So Jim Acosta reporting for CNN 72 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: is like, well, it's a Fox and Friends pick for 73 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: the Secretary of Defense. As you note, he has a 74 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: double Ivy League degrees. It was actually Princeton and Harvard 75 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: double Ivy League degrees, which the same folks who are 76 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: saying he's not a good pick would tell you any 77 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: other day that two IVY League degrees basically qualify you 78 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: for anything anything. On top of that, I believe it's 79 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: three deployments. He had a combat leadership role. He has 80 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: two Bronze stars. And at the risk of sounding like 81 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: a lib, I just want to say, y'all can't send 82 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: men to wars for twenty years where they gain experience, 83 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: and when they come back you tell them that experience 84 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: doesn't count. That's right, because I think that experience counts. 85 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And let's not forget that Biden's Cabinet Transportation secretary 86 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: got picked because he likes trains, so spare me the 87 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: lectures about Pete Hegsat's experience. I think he's perfectly qualified 88 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: and makes a great pick. 89 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: Well. 90 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: And there's another part of this where perhaps someone can 91 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: make this point at the confirmation hearings, which is, would 92 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: Pete hegseeth go a wall and have surgery without telling 93 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: the president that he was gone from his post as 94 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: secretary Lloyd Austin did, because if you won't do that, Yeah, like, 95 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: we're there. But that's a thing that the press is 96 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: very bad at doing. They don't see the the what 97 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: is it? They don't see the log in their own 98 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: eye while they're pointing out the vote in someone else's. No, 99 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting pick, definitely, definitely unexpected. Yeah, 100 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: but I definitely. 101 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: Like is this one real? 102 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: Is this one real? 103 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 104 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: But I'm not a verse to things that are unconventional 105 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: because one of the things, A, people voted for change 106 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 1: and B there's a lot of very very stodgy, stultifying 107 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: bureaucracy that can use people looking at it differently, perhaps 108 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: especially from a combat that's perspective. 109 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, fully agree, and I like the other picks 110 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: again pretty much so far. I have to say, Christynome 111 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: at Homeland Security might be the one that I quite understand. 112 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 2: But here we are as we record this, Marco Rubio 113 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: still has not been announced as Secretary of State, which 114 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: is worrying me a little bit. I've heard from two 115 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: people inside the process that there is some inner strife 116 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: that somebody else was promised that position, and that there's 117 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: somehow figuring it out. I don't think they could walk 118 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: it back at this point. I bet that by the 119 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: time this airs tomorrow, Rubio will be announced, because this 120 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: is quite a long time. Actually, it's already been over 121 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 2: twenty four hours that the rumor was first floated, and 122 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: it wasn't really floated so much as given to the 123 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: New York Times. 124 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: Well, and I have I have heard reported by some 125 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: who have better contacts in Trump world than I do, 126 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: that Rubio is a Wiles pick and that that was 127 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: part perhaps part of the trade off for JD Vance 128 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: at VEEP, and Rubio gets a good slot in the administration, 129 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: and I think he'd be extremely good in this spot. 130 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: The perfect moral clarity uh serious person speak Spanish can 131 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: put Latin American countries on the front burner and pay 132 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: attention to those which you know is helpful to the 133 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: new giant Latino voting block that the GOP has earned 134 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: around this time. So I think he'd be great there. 135 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: There's there are many things that are giving me heavy 136 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: thoughts in the beginning of this process, and we will 137 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: I will be ready for when that stops. 138 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: Well that's it. We have to be ready because there 139 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: are a lot of factions, there are a lot of 140 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: people to keep happy. But so far, I don't know 141 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: that I would change much Hukaby as ambassador as well. 142 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: I love that. I love Mike Kokabee. I think he's 143 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: just a fantastic person. He loves Israel so much. He is, 144 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: you know, a real American patriot. He will be there 145 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: to represent America's interests in Israel, and he is just 146 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: a fantastic choice. 147 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And he's been outspoken about this forever, very affectionate 148 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: about Israel. Now it goes beyond like sort of an 149 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: ideological bent or a patriotic alliance. I think he's very 150 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: affectionate towards Israel and the people of Israel. 151 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: That's right. And it's a tough job. I like to 152 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 2: joke that if I could choose any job to be 153 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: appointed to it'd be like ambassador to Turks and Caicos. Like, 154 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: that's not what he's getting. He's not getting the ambassadorship 155 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: to take Turks and Caicos. Israel is a tough one 156 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: he's going to be working. 157 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: So he picked this. 158 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: I mean, he obviously probably could have had, you know, 159 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: the ambassadorship to tricks and Cakeos. He chose to take 160 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: the tough one because he cares about the place and 161 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: he thinks he could do it a good job. 162 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: And I agree that Press secretary position still standing open 163 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: as we speak. We shall see what becomes of it. 164 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: Perhaps by the time this comes out, we'll have more information. 165 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, there was a rumor floated today that it 166 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: was Tucker, but I just. 167 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 1: I don't see that. By the way, can I just 168 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: say that the uh, the Trump World Press Release form 169 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: is too easy to spoof, So things, things go out 170 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: on Twitter, and because Trump is so unconventional and unpredictable, 171 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: I didn't know if they're true or not, and it 172 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: takes a minute. And sometimes I'm on a hair trigger 173 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: about those things. So we will be we'll be careful 174 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: about that. We're in our we're in a healthy death 175 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: con situation. We know, we know when to freak out 176 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: and when not to. So right here we. 177 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: Are another transition news. Trump and Biden met today, just 178 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: two bros hanging out in front of a roaring fire. 179 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: The fire was out of control. It was a conflagration. 180 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: Carol in the in the Oval office, I actually was thinking, 181 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: did someone put like gen Z staffers in charge of 182 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: the fire? And they were just like should it be 183 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: bigger than that? Like, I don't know, I don't do 184 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: a lot of fires. But then I thought, I'm not 185 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: sure they could have started it on their own, right, 186 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: Like sorry gen Z? 187 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would just say I didn't have 188 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: a lot of fire making experience in Brooklyn. I lived 189 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: in Scotland learned how to make fires there. But like, 190 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: I don't think it's that crazy for people not to know. 191 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: But that was a rager. I feel like they both 192 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 2: must have been sweating through their suits, was sitting there. 193 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 2: I'm just like, I don't know how they're doing it. 194 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: That's a big fire. It was. It was very real. 195 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: Uh So, nonetheless, you know, if they want to bring 196 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: me on to teach people in to build the fires. 197 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the Mary Katherine Ham Hour to build fires. 198 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: That's what I bring to the table. That and teaching 199 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: politicians to grow okay like normal people. 200 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: Right. Well, so Biden and Trump looked great together, very calm, 201 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 2: at ease, not at all like previous interactions. 202 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: Kind of have to wonder. 203 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: If Trump wasn't just hanging out with one of his voters. 204 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's hear a little bit of that interaction. 205 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: We'll be president. 206 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 3: I'd like former praying and your shining congratulation, Thank you, 207 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 3: and looking forward to having a likely said smooth transition 208 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: toevery We can make sure you're accommodating what you need, 209 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 3: and we're gonna get a chance to talk across I'm 210 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: out today. 211 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: It's good, welcome, Thank you, jat. 212 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 4: And thank you very much. And politics is tough, and 213 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 4: it's many cases not a very nice world, but it 214 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 4: is a nice world today and I appreciate it very much. 215 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 4: And a transition that's so smooth, it'll be as smooth 216 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 4: as it can get. 217 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: And I very much. 218 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 3: Appreciate that you you are. 219 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: That was a different conversation then they used to have 220 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: the really stiff kind of conversations that we've kind of 221 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,359 Speaker 2: gotten used to with the two of them. 222 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: Pretty crazy, Yeah, you can hear the fire in the 223 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: background of that clip, by the way, just threatening to 224 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: take over the entire office. Later, they both sat there 225 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: smiling while Biden's staff ushered yelling press out of the 226 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: room in classic Biden's style. They're just like yelling questions 227 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: and they're pushing, just physically pushing them out of the room. 228 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: Trump and Biden just sat there smiling. I do wonder, Carol, 229 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: who they voted for, Jill and Joe both because Jill 230 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: wore a red pants suit to vote. 231 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: Red pants suits at a mouthful. 232 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: It really did, like, you don't do that as a 233 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: Democratic first lady, go into the polls. Yeah. 234 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: There was also an exchange between Jill Biden and Kamala Harris. 235 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: I believe that was on Monday, on Veterans Day, and 236 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 2: Jill didn't even look in her direction or say a word. 237 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: And my husband sent me that video and said, very 238 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: Carol over here, because I you know, when I love everyone, 239 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: but when you're dead to me, like I don't even 240 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: look at you, you don't exist. So he said, Carol 241 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 2: vibes there. I support you, Jill Biden. 242 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: I get it. 243 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: When when somebody crosses. 244 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: You dead, that's it. Yeah, that's it. I mean it 245 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: was It had a real housewives feel like some is 246 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: about to go flying if if everyone doesn't mind their 247 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: p's and q's. So we got out of that Veteran's 248 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: Day ceremony without any chardonay flying. It's nice. 249 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know what happened after they went inside. 250 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it could get it could get weird. 251 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: We're going to take a short break and come right 252 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: back with. 253 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: Normally, speaking of transition of a different kind, shall we 254 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: talk about the ad that reportedly the Trump campaign spent 255 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: the most money on, Yeah, for placement, and it was 256 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: the trans ad. Can we tell you that thirty second 257 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: ad real quick? 258 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 5: Kamala supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners. 259 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 6: Surgery for prisoners, for prisoners, every transgender inmate in the 260 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 6: prison system would have access. 261 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 5: It's hard to believe, but it's true. Even the liberal 262 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 5: media was shocked. Kamala supports taxpayer funded sex changes for 263 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 5: prisoners and illegal aliens. 264 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 6: Every transgender inmate would have access. 265 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 5: Kamala's for they them, President Trump is for you. 266 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. That was a really popular ad, and I think 267 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: that what the main thing was is that people wanted 268 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: normal so badly and that's what they were getting with 269 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, and I think that that sent the message 270 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: that this won't be the normalcy that you're craving. 271 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's First of all, that tagline brilliant 272 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: is just going down in history as one of the 273 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: greatest bites as political writings. I mean, it just just 274 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: nailed it, very effective. I think part of it too, 275 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: is it's there's got there's some silly pictures in it. 276 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: There's actually I believe I feel like I've seen another 277 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: version that had a slightly more upbeat music soundtrack, and 278 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: it's like, it's not super dark. It actually makes fun 279 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: of the absurdity, which I thought was a nice touch 280 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: because most Americans are not hateful about this issue. They 281 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: just don't want you to be insane, and Kamala Harris 282 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: could not back off of insane. And it's it's also 283 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: a great illustration of the media not serving Democrats well, 284 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: because when Trump brought this up at the debate, the 285 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: whole media like that that's crazy. But I believe it 286 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:57,479 Speaker 1: was Andrew Kazinski of CNN who found this a cluh questionnaire. 287 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: She had done. It is real, it's in her hand. 288 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: These are her beliefs, and in that clip she even 289 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: goes further and she says, yeah, this is something that 290 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to use my power to do. Quote I 291 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: believe she says for the agenda. These are not messages 292 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: for the normies. 293 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: No, they're not. No, and that thing. We talked about 294 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: this before, but they shot themselves in the multiple feet 295 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty with the crazy beliefs. They all raised 296 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: their hand about getting rid of private health insurance. I mean, 297 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: they had such whack a doodle concepts and beliefs, and 298 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: the fact that Biden won is a miracle. It's tough 299 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: to walk back any of that stuff, and it's particularly 300 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: tough when you're on video saying things like that. But again, 301 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: it was completely acceptable to say stuff like that back then. 302 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: It was in the Democratic Party primary. It was encouraged 303 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: to as left as possible. 304 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: Well, and what apologists will say is, I don't know 305 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: what these people were hearing. This transad is misleading, it's 306 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: not misleading. All of the things are true. Now you 307 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: can argue there are very few of these cases. People 308 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: don't care that there are very few of those because 309 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: they think that that's crazy, right, and they think it's 310 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: an emblematic of how you can't figure out what's crazy 311 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: and what's normal, right, and. 312 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, go ahead. 313 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: So there's that, but like, yeah, I just think they're 314 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: having trouble reeling this back in. But the apologists say, well, 315 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: what are these people watching? Her campaign is nothing like this, 316 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: And it's like people can see her and hear her 317 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: from four or five years ago, from her time in office. 318 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 1: You don't get to just say, restart the clock for 319 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: three months and this is who I am. 320 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: Right. The other thing is is that when you hear 321 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 2: her say something that insane that she will pay for 322 00:17:54,040 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: free sex changes for illegal immigrant criminals in prison, you wonder, 323 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 2: what of the crazy ideas does she have? 324 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: This can't be the only one. 325 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: She didn't just come up with this one. There's got 326 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: to be others. So it leads people to think of 327 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: her as she was, which is a far left candidate 328 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: who was trying to cover it up for a few 329 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 2: months as she ran for president. 330 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. Can I note that two people in the party 331 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: at least have tried to sort of reel this in 332 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: post election, so going for them, Well, so one of 333 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: them is Representative Seth Moulton, and he basically said, I said, 334 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: I have two little girls. I don't want them getting 335 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: run over on a playing field by male or formerly 336 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: male athlete. But as a Democrat, I'm supposed to be 337 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: afraid to say that. Okay, yes, they are all afraid 338 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: to say that. Well, yeah, twenty twenty and the level 339 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: of bullying we saw for everything made a lot of 340 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: people very scared to say a lot of things. And 341 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: that hurt the Democratic Party, I think more than it 342 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: hurt Republicans. Yeah, because this guy is starting with the 343 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: easiest thing, which is biological males on women's sports teams. 344 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: This is like, in some places, like an eighty five 345 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: percent issue if I'm conservative, it's a seventy thirty issue. 346 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: Controversial at all. 347 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: Well, wouldn't you know it? CBS reports it. That's Representative 348 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: Seth Moulton is defending controversial remarks that he made about 349 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: transgender athletes in the wake of the presidential election. To 350 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: his credit, although he should have spoken up sooner, he's 351 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: not backing off of this. I think he knows that 352 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: this is an electoral poison and he's continuing to talk 353 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: about it. But they're having a lot of trouble down 354 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: in Texas. The head of the head of the Democratic Party, 355 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: which got wiped out in the election Tuesday, said that 356 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: the transgender agenda hurt Democrats at the polls. We can say, Okay, 357 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: we respect people's right to say we don't want my 358 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: taxpayer money to be used to do that, and at 359 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: the same time support transgender rights, saying we need to 360 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: take that position right now, but when these votes happen, 361 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: we need to recognize that there are going to be 362 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: long term political consequences when we do that. We have 363 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: a choice as a party. You could, for example, you 364 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: can support transfer to rights up and down all the 365 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: categories where the issue comes up, and you can understand 366 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: that there's certain things that we just go too far 367 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: on that a bulk of our population does not support. 368 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: I believe he's out of that job now now. To 369 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: be fair, it might not be because of the comments. 370 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: It could be because of the shillacking, but right and I. 371 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: Saw right before we went on that there's already a 372 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: movement to primary South Moulton. So yeah, that's you know, 373 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 2: that's what he's going to get for that. Again, no 374 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 2: lessons learned, nothing, you know at all being picked up 375 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: from what just happened to the Democrats, they're going to 376 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: continue to be this far left thing. But what you 377 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: said was completely right is that people didn't care about 378 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 2: this issue for a long time and they do now 379 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 2: because we were made to care. They put it in 380 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: to our lives in so many different ways. I know, 381 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 2: I always talk about growing up in New York City, 382 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: like I had drag queen friends, I had, like you know, 383 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: people who were calling themselves trends. You know, back in 384 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: the nineties. They weren't trying to read books to elementary 385 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: school kids. They it wasn't about kids at all, And 386 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 2: I think that that's really what changed the conversation. They 387 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: directed it at children and parents were like, oh hell no. 388 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: Well, and the left frequently can't see itself as culture 389 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: warriors like y'all are in a cultural war. You're, in 390 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: fact the aggressors a lot of the time, and they 391 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: get upset when the culture defends itself. And I think 392 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: that's what a lot of normal people did on this issue, which, 393 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: by the way, I should also say I think it's 394 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: it makes people more upset because the backlash to talking 395 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: about it is so great on this issue. Abigail Schreyer's book, 396 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: which she truly bravely wrote called Irreversible horror, irvitual damage, 397 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: irreversible damage about the increase in trans youth and gender 398 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: dysphoria and whether that could be a social contagion. Was 399 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: literally banned at some books, took it off Amazon at 400 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: one point. 401 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 2: Yep, taking off Amazon or moved from Target. 402 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 403 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: So the actual, the actual book bannings, not the made 404 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: up ones. The actual backlash to this issue, I think 405 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: hardened people and made them more annoyed that they weren't 406 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: allowed to address this. And then Trump just says He's 407 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: for they, She's for them, I'm for you. I mean, 408 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: he cuts through all of it. 409 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: It's impressive and again, great ad, just great conversation starter 410 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: in so many ways. And Democrats really have to tone 411 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 2: all of this down. We'll see whether they actually do that. 412 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: We'll see whether they'll listen to molten. We we have 413 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: two back to back our regular segments. I want to 414 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: give you two of them. One us first. 415 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: On video balloons just appeared on somehow I triggered that screen. 416 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: First of all, Still mad bro, where Carol and I 417 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: bring up stuff that, yes, indeed, we are still mad 418 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: about even if most of the country has said that 419 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: we should get over it. And here's a new one. 420 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: This is from the New York Times, which has graced 421 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: us with this reporting now after gaslighting us in twenty twenty, 422 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: Americans started drinking more as the COVID nineteen pandemic got underway. 423 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: They were stressed, isolated, uncertain the world as they had 424 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: known it had changed overnight. Two years into disaster, the 425 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: trend has not abated. Researchers reported on Monday the percentage 426 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: of Americans who consumed alcohol, which had already risen from 427 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen to twenty twenty, and step further in twenty 428 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: twenty one and twenty two and more people reported heavy 429 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: or binge drinking. This obviously has a lot of bad 430 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: cascading effects, Carol. But if we said that in twenty twenty, 431 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: we were told we were crazy. Right. 432 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: Schools were closed, liquor stores were open. Obviously. I remember 433 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: in the first few weeks when it was still sort 434 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 2: of a fun, funky time and everybody was home. We 435 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: were all zoom drinking with our friends. My daughter, who's 436 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: now fourteen, she was ten at the time, came downstairs 437 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: and she saw us like having drinks with our friends 438 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 2: on zoom, and she was like, are people developing drinking problems? 439 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: She didn't mean us, because we really don't drink that much, 440 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: but she immediately was like, this is probably not good 441 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: for us. She was ten. I swear to god, I 442 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: tweeted about it so people could know it was true, 443 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 2: and it happened at the time, but she saw it right. 444 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: You're home, you got nothing going on, You're sure, let 445 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: zoom with our friends and have some whiskey. A lot 446 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: of the things that happened during the pandemic that we 447 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: find it very hard to get over. Part of it 448 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: is why. Part of it is because we're still suffering 449 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: through a lot of it. A lot of kids still 450 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 2: having trouble catching up with their reading because they didn't 451 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 2: have school for so long. It makes total sense if 452 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 2: you've been drinking in twenty twenty it might not be 453 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: that easy to stop in twenty twenty four. It's not like, oh, okay, 454 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: everything went back to normal. I guess I'll drop this 455 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: bad habit. Sometimes that's really hard to do. 456 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, And also it also notes we think that what 457 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: happened during the pandemic was that there were a large 458 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: number of people who were already in a high risk zone, 459 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: so to speak, and the pandemic pushed them over the 460 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: brink into severe illness and death. Doctor Hindershot is who's 461 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: quoted telling us about that. Well, yeah, that was always 462 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: a danger, as we said at the time, And the 463 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: problem with the pandemic is that no one compared dangers, 464 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: no one compared risks. You were only allowed to think 465 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: about one kind of risk. And yep, you know, my 466 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: husband lost a friend to isolation and alcoholism during twenty twenty. 467 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: It was certainly exacerbated by that, certainly partially caused by lockdowns, 468 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: and we were not we were told we weren't allowed 469 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: to be concerned about that. Again with the bullying from 470 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and I think it's really sad. You're also 471 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: gonna love this sentence. Let me find it. The surgeon 472 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: alcohol consumption Carol was one of several lingering legacies of 473 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: the pandemic, along with school absenteeism lags and educational attainment 474 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: arise in overdose deaths and a surge in mental health problems, 475 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: especially among young people. 476 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 2: If only somebody had said something. 477 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm still a little mad, bro, I am. 478 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: Will be right back on normally. 479 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: This isn't in case you missed it, And unfortunately, I 480 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: think probably most everyone has missed. 481 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: You bekept this news to me. 482 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: Well, it got really lost in the election news. The 483 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: announcement was made October thirty first, and this is the announcement. 484 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: Do you remember in May when several soldiers were hurt 485 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: building are working on the Gaza floating peer. Okay, yeah, 486 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: Well one of them was critically injured, and he's a Columbia, 487 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: South Carolina native. He goes, he's flown back to the 488 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: States to get treatment, and he passed away on October 489 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: thirty first, and it was announced a couple days later, 490 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: so right next to the election. And I just want 491 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: to read a little bit about him. His name, So, 492 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: Sergeant Conderius Devon Stanley, twenty three was one of three 493 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: US service members hurt May twenty third while working on 494 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: the temporary floating peer that Biden had announced with great 495 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: fanfare during his State of the Union address in March. 496 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: The other two service members thankfully minorly injured and are 497 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: back to work. But that peer cost up two hundred 498 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: and thirty million. I'm sure we'll find out later it 499 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: was more. It lasted from May to early July mid July. 500 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: It did almost nothing. They claimed that a bunch of 501 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: humanitarian aid was moved to Gaza, which some of it was, 502 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: except it got lost because it's there those goods are 503 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: taken by Hamas and they were raided. And then the 504 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: peer fell apart at one point in choppy waters because 505 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't even really supposed to be used in a 506 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: place like the Mediterranean in that spot, and we lost 507 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: one soldier doing this, which was basically a terrible, unsuccessful 508 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: photo op to undermine Israel, by the way, because it's 509 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: saying Israel's not helping getting humanitarian aid there was not. 510 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 2: True nonsense, Uh huh. 511 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: And you know, I went and searched the White House 512 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: website to see if maybe Karine Jean Pierre had mentioned 513 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: Quandarius Stanley in any of her announcements or press releases. 514 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: I cannot find his name on the site, and I 515 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: just wanted to say, especially as Veterans Day came this week, 516 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: and obviously it's different, it's not Memorial Day, but I 517 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: would like to memorialize him and his family, who probably 518 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: will not be recognized by the White House unless Trump 519 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: decides to at some point. It's really sad, and it 520 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: makes me angry that they undertook. 521 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: This fully agree, and you know, it's sickening that they 522 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 2: didn't say his name, and he an American, was lost overseas, 523 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: an American you know, military member, and we don't even 524 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: know about it. It's barely a story. It's a really 525 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: bad sign for a lot of things out of this 526 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: White House. I don't know. I'm cautiously optimistic, but I 527 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: really do think I have some faith in the Trump 528 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 2: White House that I simply don't in the Biden White House. 529 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: Well, and this is one of those things where I 530 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: think too often Democrats are judged by their intentions and 531 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: Republicans by results, right, and Democrats are given so much 532 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt that they tell us over and 533 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: over again that Biden obviously cares about the troops. He 534 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: definitely does, except when it comes to the hard stuff 535 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: like spending time with these families of the Abbey Gate thirteen, 536 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: for instance, to lifting up those families, recognizing them when 537 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: it might be a political liability for you. Trump actually 538 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: has a record of doing that. He brought to maybe 539 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: seal widow who was to the State of the Union, 540 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: whose husband was lost on an operation he oversaw right, 541 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: he has a record of doing that, and Biden doesn't 542 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: certainly lately, and I find it really offensive. Actually, it's 543 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: one of the few things I get actually mad about. 544 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I agree, there's just there has to be 545 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: some level of doing the hard work. It's hard, obviously 546 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: to talk to people who have been lost, the families 547 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 2: of people who have been lost on your watch, but 548 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: it's part of the role of commander in chief and 549 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: you have to get over it. 550 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: And do it well. I just wanted to bring that. 551 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: I know it's a little downway to end this, but 552 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: I just wanted to acknowledge him. 553 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: His name his name again. 554 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: His name is Sergeant Quandarius Stanley, and his officer says 555 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: was an instrumental and well respected first line leader in 556 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: the seventh Transportation Brigade Expeditionary, especially during the mission to 557 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: provide humanitarian assistance to the people. That's from Colonel John 558 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: Eddie Gray, his unit commander. So I wish we'd heard 559 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: a little more about him, and I wish that the 560 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: folks who had him doing that job would acknowledge what 561 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: he gave. 562 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: We will remember you, sergeant well, thanks for joining us 563 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: on normally normally airs Tuesdays and Thursdays, and you can 564 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: subscribe anywhere you get your podcasts. Get in touch with 565 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 2: us at normallythepod at gmail dot com. Thanks for listening, 566 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: and when things get weird, act normally