Speaker 1: All the kids who I remember from growing up who
Speaker 1: were like the funny kids, they just did, they just did.
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey got to kill you. Yeah, that's because we
Speaker 1: been have social media. There was literally are you Jim
Speaker 1: Carrey or not? Because if you're not, I want you
Speaker 1: out of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. In my age group, it was what it was,
Speaker 2: Dane Cook and Chappelle was it was very weird, diametrically opposed.
Speaker 2: That's such a weird thing because like it's easy for
Speaker 2: kids to nail Jim Carrey because he's just a fucking goof.
Speaker 1: What is Dane Cook?
Speaker 2: Like like a twelve years and be Dane Cook? Like
Speaker 2: what kind of shit is he doing? Like just doing
Speaker 2: just regurgitating the materials, walking back and forth. They just
Speaker 2: ripping that for their dumb kids. I don't think. I
Speaker 2: think so. Honestly, this was only the white kids, no one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we do. We appropriate to see.
Speaker 2: At least I had Jim Carrey because in Living Color,
Speaker 2: so I could do a Damon Wayne's thing that I love,
Speaker 2: like especially I love like the fucking jailhouse dude. He's like,
Speaker 2: allow me to ejack you tape excuse me.
Speaker 1: I mean that's still good. My semin inspirations still like
Speaker 1: fucking eating with that. You've got to open your mind.
Speaker 1: He's just such a good.
Speaker 2: I mean that show obviously has a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: that didn't age well. But I think though too, it's
Speaker 2: never us ever taking liberties and then improvising as a
Speaker 2: thing because I'm like, what are they doing? Bits, It's
Speaker 2: like you, no, you just said the same ship that
Speaker 2: made you laugh over and over again. So it's not
Speaker 2: like I was doing I was riffing on fire Marshall Bill.
Speaker 2: I was just saying, let me show you something.
Speaker 1: I act like it changed after childhood, but like in college,
Speaker 1: it was just Anchorman. It was just people being for me.
Speaker 2: It was sunny Heights or what a summer heights hot? Whatever?
Speaker 1: Ye Christopher.
Speaker 3: Bad habit, bad habit for drugs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. Welcome mister G's Room. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: spin around, Chinaman, spin around. I don't know because this
Speaker 2: is you're brown face. Oh yeah the show.
Speaker 1: I remember that. That's when they were like, bro, the
Speaker 1: people were the quotes were brown face.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, yeah, there's obviously Jonah and everyone was like,
Speaker 2: oh well, I mean he's killing it, so is it okay?
Speaker 2: They think the logic back then, He's like, it's a
Speaker 2: good impersonation of a tong getting child. M hm, HBO.
Speaker 2: I feel like people were just like, yeah, yeah, exactly
Speaker 2: exactly like HBO can't be racist, Bro, what do you
Speaker 2: mean racist? That is really like how libs think sample
Speaker 2: he's on HBO. We can't be racist on HBO, getting
Speaker 2: him the fuck out of here. I also think Bill
Speaker 2: Maher describes that. He's like, I'm on HBO. I also
Speaker 2: can't be racist. Right. Let me say this because I
Speaker 2: dated Superhead for a little bit. Oh yeah, well you
Speaker 2: can say the N word as much as I like. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's how he really comes off, because he really because
Speaker 2: you were with Superhead. Well, he gets mad anytime someone
Speaker 2: brings it up. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Shout out to the podcast called I Hate Bill Maher,
Speaker 3: which my friend Will Weldon posts and I've was a
Speaker 3: recent guest.
Speaker 1: On Wait what did he just talk? You Hate Bill Maher?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he goes through episodes of what the fuck is
Speaker 3: it called Real Talk? Real Time? Real Time, Real time
Speaker 3: with ma and.
Speaker 1: Not Club Random.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that random random again, Christopher Lily So
Speaker 2: the other noticed.
Speaker 1: How random Bill Maher is.
Speaker 2: My god. Yeah, public schools are soy random. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: public schools is so random.
Speaker 1: See and now I'm being educated that I'm not beyond
Speaker 1: this because you're just repeating those lines.
Speaker 2: It's still making it.
Speaker 3: It's hilarious.
Speaker 1: It's hilarious. Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three
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Speaker 2: watched way too much History Channel and D Day when
Speaker 2: I was eleven years old. Yeah, sounds like it, man,
Speaker 2: I fucking I work on that. I should, man, I should,
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Speaker 5: My name is Jack O'Brien aka. I got that baby Jack,
Speaker 5: baby Jack, baby Jack. I got that baby Jack, Baby Jack,
Speaker 5: baby Jack. I got that baby Jack riz wearing propeller hats.
Speaker 1: That one courtesy of Cleo Universe. I think I was
Speaker 1: talking about being baby and wearing a propeller hat at
Speaker 1: some point on the show this week. Anyways, shout out
Speaker 1: Cleo Universe, thank you for that. I'm thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined as always by my co host mister.
Speaker 6: Miles Grass Miles Gray, booty.
Speaker 7: Body, body, brother everywhere, brother everywhere.
Speaker 2: Boom boog okay. Look shout out to Nick Semper teranis
Speaker 2: because I didn't realize that horse sweat was like foam. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I do. I know again that's where work up a
Speaker 2: lather comes from, and then is blather. Yeah, exactly exactly. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I see Caitlin's reaction there that face mouth gapic foam. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Ye, horses sweat and it's foamy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a protein called Latherin no wonder.
Speaker 1: Their coats always look so clean and shine shiny.
Speaker 3: I don't know why I thought horses like panted like
Speaker 3: a dog instead of sweating.
Speaker 1: Just foaming up even when they're like really gassed. I
Speaker 1: feel like you never see them open their mouth. They're
Speaker 1: just like kind of you know, breathing heavy thing. They
Speaker 1: got those big nostrils. By the way, I've been sleeping
Speaker 1: with the uh nostril spander things, sleeping with the enemy
Speaker 1: Julia Roberts, Julia Roberts's husband from that movie. I've been
Speaker 1: sleeping with those like nose strip things.
Speaker 2: Wait, what is that? Theah you put like there was
Speaker 2: a thing that was like became a big deal for athletes.
Speaker 1: I think athletes still wear them sometimes.
Speaker 2: Breathe right strips.
Speaker 1: And I always just felt too foolish to like have
Speaker 1: the breathe right, strip be like, and now I'm wearing
Speaker 1: this athletic gear to sleep, but it really does help
Speaker 1: helps you breathe through your nose and snore less.
Speaker 2: Does the eye black help though?
Speaker 1: Is helpful? All right, we're getting the big wad of chew.
Speaker 2: Wait is this the adhesive one or that one I
Speaker 2: see on the internet with like the magnets that like
Speaker 2: pull adhesive. Oh okay, have you seen the one with
Speaker 2: the magnets where people clip them on and they're like
Speaker 2: and they're like, yo, what oh really? Fuck? Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean that's next level. Yeah, it looks like it's like
Speaker 2: a magnetic nose ring people.
Speaker 1: It's kind of fun, But I feel like I would
Speaker 1: be too worried about losing the magnets up my nose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would. I'm sure there's got to be
Speaker 2: some kind of thing there, because yeah, that would be
Speaker 2: such bad.
Speaker 1: Losing ship up there. So you gotta gotta be careful.
Speaker 3: Shoving pennies.
Speaker 1: Still was changing the nine to eleven documentary. Yeah, my favorite,
Speaker 1: my favorite movie, Caitlin. We're thrilled to be joined in
Speaker 1: our third Caitlyn. I should have said, Miles, but I
Speaker 1: just want you to know caitlynjoined in our third seat
Speaker 1: by a very talented writer, stand up comedian co host
Speaker 1: of The Bechdel Cast. You're you might be getting a
Speaker 1: sense of who I'm talking about, Caitlin. One of the
Speaker 1: great one of the great film podcasts of all time
Speaker 1: that just had Alison Bechdel on. They also happen to
Speaker 1: have a our guests today who you might know also
Speaker 1: happens to have a master's degree in film and the
Speaker 1: most anagrammable name in the English language. So if you've
Speaker 1: been given their name in a jumble of out of
Speaker 1: order scrabble tiles, you may know them as Lauren d
Speaker 1: Titanic nine tit Dracula Latin Dancer UTM. But to us, Caitlyn,
Speaker 1: you will always be Caitlyn Durante's guest.
Speaker 2: It was it was just a bit oh my god,
Speaker 2: oh you know, yeah alive hell yea, I hear that.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah.
Speaker 1: It's been great. It's great to have you back, all
Speaker 1: in the guest chair. Yeah, yeah, one thing, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: It's good to have you back. Where you belong.
Speaker 2: Okay, I guess we're interested in.
Speaker 1: Welcome to club random here where you belong? Okay, new rule.
Speaker 1: Caitlin belongs in the third seat, not the second seat.
Speaker 1: I love good Bill Maher. I love a good Bill
Speaker 1: Maher impression.
Speaker 8: I do not got one, but got the vibe though
Speaker 8: I got the I just have that energy about me.
Speaker 1: Caitlin, what is what's new with you? Have you seen
Speaker 1: any films lately? I don't know that. We've talked about
Speaker 1: Paddington and Peru.
Speaker 3: I don't think we have.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 3: I did see it an advanced screening. Wow, yeah, huge deal.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I have my thoughts about it. We won't we don't
Speaker 3: need to go into it super deeply, but I generally
Speaker 3: think it was pretty good. I was ready to be
Speaker 3: very disappointed by it, and it is the weakest of
Speaker 3: the trilogy, I would say, but it's only because you
Speaker 3: have to compare it to the best movie ever made,
Speaker 3: Paddington too, and that's a very high bar. So you
Speaker 3: know it's it's It's still good. Not as good as
Speaker 3: the first two. But I enjoyed myself.
Speaker 1: I watched the first twenty minutes with my kids and
Speaker 1: then I had to leave for an adult engagement. WHOA
Speaker 1: no big deal. But I was like, I've got a
Speaker 1: bad feeling about that nun and they were like, what,
Speaker 1: why are you saying that? I like to spoil make
Speaker 1: movie predictions, spoil the movie for my kids there like whoa, Dad,
Speaker 1: You're right, no, they're actually not that impressed. Usually, but
Speaker 1: any other any other films that you've been enjoying or
Speaker 1: not enjoying?
Speaker 3: Certainly you know, I enjoyed Friendship.
Speaker 2: I laughed a lot.
Speaker 3: I thought the story, you know, could they should have
Speaker 3: sent me the script for for a freaking for some notes.
Speaker 1: Always my first note on any film, I.
Speaker 3: Think, should Caitlin, And then I would have been like,
Speaker 3: who's that? And then what else have I seen?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: I watched The Ugly Stepsister. In fact, that's that was
Speaker 3: going to be the piece of media I've been enjoying.
Speaker 3: At the end of the episode, okay, spoiling it.
Speaker 2: We'll ask what we'll expand on that when we get to.
Speaker 1: The okay core, Yeah, well we'll do that later. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we are thrilled. Just believe me when I say we're
Speaker 1: thrilled to have you back where you belong in the
Speaker 1: third seat. You all right, we're going to get to
Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the
Speaker 1: things we're talking about today. We've got a bit of
Speaker 1: a movie centric slate of stories. AMC wants to put
Speaker 1: more ads before movies, which is something we've all been
Speaker 1: asking for. So that's good. More ads. This is actually
Speaker 1: this happened to me before I saw Centers. The an
Speaker 1: ad appeared after the trailers before like it was like
Speaker 1: where the Nicole kidman would go in an AMC. They
Speaker 1: just had a lexis ad. Yeah, and I was it
Speaker 1: was like unobtrusive and like because they do it right
Speaker 1: as the lights are about to go down. I was
Speaker 1: just like I didn't get up and start throwing things
Speaker 1: like I should have, right, But.
Speaker 2: Well, we've been conditioned to accept like pre roll ads
Speaker 2: on video through YouTube and stuff, so I'm sure just like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, here we go, Here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 1: I was, I just I did stick my finger up
Speaker 1: and keep trying to hit skip it more seconds we're
Speaker 1: just happening. But yeah, I think that's just generally where
Speaker 1: we've been condition to accept bullshit across the board. That's
Speaker 1: where we're at as a as a civilization. Rainbow capitalism
Speaker 1: is now earth tone capitalism. Look at Target's latest colorless
Speaker 1: Pride collection. It's called the Neutral Pride m Dash Neutrals Collection.
Speaker 1: So we'll just talk about where we're at with Pride
Speaker 1: this year. We'll talk about what AI's secret role in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: They're already using it but trying not to acknowledge that
Speaker 1: they're using it, and just all sorts of good things.
Speaker 1: There's a mega credit card that was released with a
Speaker 1: fully Ai TV commercial. It's all good stuff, plenty more.
Speaker 1: But first, Katelyb, we do like to ask you, what
Speaker 1: is something from your search history that is revealing about
Speaker 1: who you are?
Speaker 3: I mean, I had to confirm what all right, all right,
Speaker 3: all right is from because.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, all right, that's the one McConaughey
Speaker 1: I think I said L I V I N earlier incidentally,
Speaker 1: also from the same character.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, okay, I did I did not catch
Speaker 3: that because I'm.
Speaker 1: A person I am. I like to quote. Those are
Speaker 1: my Matthew McConaughey's pedophile character from Days and Computers. So
Speaker 1: a chill one.
Speaker 3: I were about to cover it on the Bechdel Cast
Speaker 3: and we were, you know, communicating with our guest, and
Speaker 3: we like settled on it. I was like, how's this
Speaker 3: time and date for everyone, and our guess was like
Speaker 3: works for me. And then I was like all right,
Speaker 3: all right, all right. But then I was like, shit,
Speaker 3: is that from that movie? Like, I know, that's that's
Speaker 3: something that Matthew McConaughey says, just.
Speaker 2: I meant, I meant, that's actually what I meant.
Speaker 3: So yeah, which is hard to type out.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I parenthetical pounding chest with.
Speaker 1: The vocal warm up he did for his one scene
Speaker 1: in Wolf of Wall Street that they were just like, hey,
Speaker 1: could you do that again? That was weird as fuck?
Speaker 1: Can we just keep that in the movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd rather not anyway, so I had to. I
Speaker 3: thought I was pretty for I was pretty sure it
Speaker 3: was originally from Daist and Confused, but I haven't seen
Speaker 3: that movie in a very long time, so I had
Speaker 3: to google it and make sure. And I was right.
Speaker 3: Because I'm a genius when it comes to movies. I
Speaker 3: know everything. I'm a walking encyclopedia, a walking eye.
Speaker 1: Learn from you this movie clotes, I learned that a movie.
Speaker 2: Quote your families asking you after you graduate and what
Speaker 2: did you learn? Oh that I'm fucking goaded? Oh okay,
Speaker 2: how what what do you mean? Just like, I fucking
Speaker 2: I knew I fucking was the ship man, I fucking
Speaker 2: even know why I bothered. This ship just told me
Speaker 2: everything I already knew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasted so much money goodwill hunting, Just like
Speaker 1: you have any idea how easy this is for me
Speaker 1: to pick the right movie quote at any given situation.
Speaker 1: Fucking watch you fumble around and be like, I love
Speaker 1: lamp when it should have been all right, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, I love my pools.
Speaker 2: That's such a terrible mistake to get those wires crushed,
Speaker 2: you love, I love lamp. No, what milk was a
Speaker 2: bad choice? It's it's milk was a bad choice. Sorry, sorry,
Speaker 2: Oh what do you love? Okay? Well, yeah, now this
Speaker 2: is happening, and they marry Kickbackster off that bridge. That
Speaker 2: was that was Jack bluck, That was Jack so bad
Speaker 2: at this game?
Speaker 3: Yeah you don't well you don't have a master's degree
Speaker 3: in that.
Speaker 1: That's right, exactly. Do you have any idea how easy
Speaker 1: this is for Kaylyn and difficult it is to watch
Speaker 1: us fumble around and fuck these.
Speaker 2: Movie quoted about getting the MFA. Okay, is that you
Speaker 2: realize there's more than one movie that's Anchorman, that's right.
Speaker 3: That is also the other main thing I learned.
Speaker 1: Caitlyn, is he talking about Anchorman too?
Speaker 2: Is that what Anchorman two?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: A movie?
Speaker 5: Besides yeah, yeah, I know there's more than there's other
Speaker 5: movies that are Anchorman, Caitlin, what's something you think is underrated? I?
Speaker 3: Okay, this is something that I personally underrate, rather than
Speaker 3: like something that society under rates, because any of these
Speaker 3: questions are open to interpretation. Oh yeah, and I couldn't
Speaker 3: think of anything.
Speaker 1: Oh believe me, Miles, and I do overrated underrated every
Speaker 1: Monday morning. And when I tell you that, I take
Speaker 1: some liberties where I'm just like, I don't know, this
Speaker 1: is a thought I had. How am I going to
Speaker 1: make them turn this into an underrated Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you get it anyway, But this is true.
Speaker 3: This is something that I do underrate, which is like
Speaker 3: just acknowledging the positives of a situation, acknowledging what's nice
Speaker 3: about something. And the reason I realized this is because
Speaker 3: I have I have a little you know, on my
Speaker 3: notes app, I have a list of like anticipating that
Speaker 3: I will not be able to think of anything for
Speaker 3: my over and underrated, So I'm like, oh, I had
Speaker 3: this strange thought of thing of something I thought was underrated.
Speaker 3: I'm going to write it down for the next time
Speaker 3: I am a guest on the Daily Ze guest a
Speaker 3: guest where I rightfully belong.
Speaker 2: So you must have a ton because you've last couple
Speaker 2: of times you've been guest co posts.
Speaker 1: I know, I know.
Speaker 3: But what I was finding is that I had a
Speaker 3: long list of things I think are overrated and no
Speaker 3: things I think are underrated because I focus on the
Speaker 3: negatives of sayings. I'm like when I, for example, and
Speaker 3: I teach my screenwriting classes, I'm very good at giving
Speaker 3: notes on something that needs to be improved or something
Speaker 3: that's not working, and I have a harder time articulating
Speaker 3: like what what is working about this and why? So
Speaker 3: I just I tend to just like focus on the
Speaker 3: negatives of everything, and so I undervalue and underwrite in
Speaker 3: my own life the positives of things. So I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm just I'm just working on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say that when you do have an
Speaker 1: underrated you can do a lot of Like Paddington Too,
Speaker 1: I feel like you really taught the told the world
Speaker 1: like this is a film that you should be taking
Speaker 1: more seriously. This is like what starts and would be
Speaker 1: making if he hadn't disappeared up his own ass, you know,
Speaker 1: like that this is and that's what I was like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is correct, and yeah, I do feel
Speaker 1: like you started a movement. So maybe you're also just
Speaker 1: like really selective and only only picking the most correct
Speaker 1: underrated things.
Speaker 3: Wow, and and look at what you just did, Jack,
Speaker 3: You focused on the positive, yes, of.
Speaker 1: More underrated are underrated? I think you're underrated, Minelan. I
Speaker 1: don't know why I can only focus on the negatives too.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm the same way, Like I always have
Speaker 1: a hard time figure out what's underrated. But to that,
Speaker 1: but your broader point like it, I'm the same way.
Speaker 1: And I really had to like think about that question
Speaker 1: about perception being reality of like when I'm so focused
Speaker 1: on everything that's negative, I tend to just get fully
Speaker 1: consumed in a very negative headspace and not like I
Speaker 1: need to completely convince myself that, like.
Speaker 2: Like let me focus on things that are made up,
Speaker 2: but realizing there are good things too that you also
Speaker 2: can bring your attention to. That just to even the
Speaker 2: scales a bit, how about we do three less shitty
Speaker 2: things and acknowledge three things that are neutral and maybe hey,
Speaker 2: even nice.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: That's helped a lot because I felt like I was
Speaker 2: always like a, like bad shit was happening, or like
Speaker 2: I'd make mistakes and stuff like weird dumb, like just
Speaker 2: weird shit that would like irritate me would happen more
Speaker 2: When I was always focused on everything that was like
Speaker 2: kissing me off.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, and like I will, I'm my own
Speaker 3: worst critic. I'm always like what what's what are you doing?
Speaker 3: Why'd you do that? Blah blah blah, But I never
Speaker 3: I never compliment myself and I should start. Yeah, So
Speaker 3: hey listeners, if you have any compliments you would like
Speaker 3: to pay me that I can plagiarize.
Speaker 2: Right that you want to pay me to hear?
Speaker 1: Yeah, then me truly, like my brain never randomly thinks
Speaker 1: of something cool I did in high school. It only
Speaker 1: will be like it sucks so bad, something that keeps
Speaker 1: you up at do you have Like I'll just like
Speaker 1: to think of something that I said or did, like
Speaker 1: maybe not high school, but like you know, in the past.
Speaker 1: Sometimes recently I was just like, oh fuck, like I
Speaker 1: just smelled a really bad fart or something and then
Speaker 1: just just move along. But I never am like, ah,
Speaker 1: remember that that was the right thing to say at
Speaker 1: that moment. You know, you killed you bro? That was
Speaker 1: actually really good, well done. Yeah, I think we all
Speaker 1: struggle with it. But a great underrated. What's something you
Speaker 1: think is overrated?
Speaker 3: I think that doing everything together, specifically like as a couple,
Speaker 3: or like if you're traveling with people, or like just
Speaker 3: any kind of unit of people who are going to
Speaker 3: do an activity maybe and like the pressure to do
Speaker 3: it all together and not be able to like split
Speaker 3: off if there's a disagreement about what should be done.
Speaker 3: It's just like this, like yeah, the pressure of like, no,
Speaker 3: we have to do this together. Or again, if someone's
Speaker 3: like in a real mantic couple ship, they're like, no,
Speaker 3: I won't do this without my person. I have to
Speaker 3: do it. We have to do everything together. I think
Speaker 3: that's overrated and people should feel free to branch off, breakoff.
Speaker 2: Who's catching tell me who's catching a subliminal stray? Right now?
Speaker 2: That's what I want to know.
Speaker 1: I should just be able to have fun on my own.
Speaker 2: Maybe you don't have to bring your partner this time.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I get that it's new and exciting,
Speaker 2: but please, I get the thing too, Like when you
Speaker 2: go to like a theme park too, when people go literally.
Speaker 1: Like, motherfucker, I hate that ride and I'm going to
Speaker 1: be an asshole if you forced me to go on it.
Speaker 2: Why don't you do that? And I will go have
Speaker 2: a truro and I'll be right here when you're done.
Speaker 3: This is absolutely fine, but people act like, no, we
Speaker 3: have to do this together, or like we don't.
Speaker 1: It's like the one dad, this it really should be
Speaker 1: the one good thing. I all this, and like I
Speaker 1: feel like I've had experience where I'm like, guys, we
Speaker 1: have cell phones, like we have each other again. I'm
Speaker 1: just yeah, we're still living like we're in the pre
Speaker 1: cell phone era, like the cell phones have ruined fucking everything.
Speaker 1: Just to at least enjoy this extra luxury of just
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, we can fucking split off. I can
Speaker 1: put my hood up and go ghost protocol like I
Speaker 1: like to do sometimes on family.
Speaker 2: Vacations, go on them.
Speaker 1: No, it's okay, a dad, he's going ghost protocol. You
Speaker 1: can tell because his hoodie just went off.
Speaker 2: You mean he's having a panic attack in line for
Speaker 2: the ride. So he just putting shot on the stairs
Speaker 2: on his phone. I'm going ghost protocol, y'all. It's just
Speaker 2: so funny to say, really spicing up the fact that
Speaker 2: you're just feeling kind of off about shit. Sorry, I
Speaker 2: gotta go ghost protocol. I'm off. That's great.
Speaker 3: No, I go ghost protocol all the time. If I'm
Speaker 3: like traveling with someone and they want to do they
Speaker 3: want to go to like of some fucking museum that
Speaker 3: I don't give a shit about, I'm like, great, you
Speaker 3: go do that. I'll go do this other thing. We
Speaker 3: can meet up later for dinner or whatever.
Speaker 2: Like great question, totally random. Who is the last person
Speaker 2: you went on a trip with?
Speaker 1: Unrelated to this?
Speaker 2: And they're listening right.
Speaker 3: Now and they're frying.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I well, like when I I went to Ireland a
Speaker 3: few years ago with my sister and she was like
Speaker 3: kind of under the impression that we would do every
Speaker 3: single thing together. She kept wanting to do things there
Speaker 3: it is I didn't want to, Like, that's not how
Speaker 3: I wanted to spend my time. So I was like,
Speaker 3: if you want to buy all means And I think
Speaker 3: she learned some independence right and then, and I learned
Speaker 3: how to you know, clearly, but considerately establish some boundaries,
Speaker 3: like an advocate for yourself experience for all of us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, because you said you and your and your
Speaker 2: sister's personalities are pretty different, right, quite different?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, do you remember you saying that? So this
Speaker 2: this tracks? Okay, love you though, love you though?
Speaker 3: Yeah, love you Sarah. She's not listening. She doesn't care
Speaker 3: about anything I do.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe we could have done a podcast together, but
Speaker 2: you want to do.
Speaker 1: That, all right, And it is good that we have this,
Speaker 1: this new piece of evidence because I think a lot
Speaker 1: of Jamie was on last week talking about going to
Speaker 1: the Snoopy Museum, and I think that I think people
Speaker 1: would have been like Kaitlyn did want to go to
Speaker 1: the Snoopy Museum but.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah no, no, no, I would have gone, but I
Speaker 3: wasn't invited.
Speaker 1: No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: No, everything is fine, it's great, love you, Jamie.
Speaker 1: I just wish we spent more time to get all right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back.
Speaker 2: Oh he didn't finish it? Was then you didn't finish it?
Speaker 1: What am I supposed to be? And we're am I back?
Speaker 1: Back from the ads.
Speaker 2: You see there you go.
Speaker 1: We were on a break and I just can't live
Speaker 1: with that. You wang wow, just some monotone gang and
Speaker 1: that just can't live without zeit gang.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back, and AMC trying to put Uh they've created
Speaker 1: a fun I just like the degree to which this
Speaker 1: is irresistible to marketing people and like I read it
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, this is happening. There's no
Speaker 1: stopping this. This is a fucking freight train. There's nothing
Speaker 1: that's going to stop this. They've they've created a new
Speaker 1: ad spot that goes between the trailers and the feature presentation,
Speaker 1: and they're calling it the Platinum spot. Right before this
Speaker 1: starting the film, baby love.
Speaker 2: To see their offerings when they go out to potential advertisers.
Speaker 2: I mean there's also the Platinum I don't know if
Speaker 2: you guys meant do you think they do that maybe
Speaker 2: where it's like Platinum spot, it's in a folder, it
Speaker 2: falls out during the meeting and they're like, oh god, sorry,
Speaker 2: you weren't supposed to see that. Well what was that?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Nothing, you wouldn't be interested. It's like for super high
Speaker 2: roller clients. No, No, I'd like I mean, I guess
Speaker 2: it's the platinum spot. Now, well you just like that
Speaker 2: kind of like that kind of like skeazy salesman tactic
Speaker 2: to be like, well, this is the platinum spot where
Speaker 2: people will be really angry because this will be the
Speaker 2: last thing they remember before watching a movie.
Speaker 1: And I feel like it's probably also just knowing how
Speaker 1: like business mambrane intersects with anything creative is they probably
Speaker 1: saw They're like, look at how people are responding to
Speaker 1: this Nicole Kidman thing, right, I mean that thing is
Speaker 1: in the platinum spot as a phrase I just came
Speaker 1: up with, and they really seem to respond well to it,
Speaker 1: and so.
Speaker 2: So just using the transitive property to be like, people
Speaker 2: are responding to this Nicole Kidman spot because it's in
Speaker 2: the platinum spot. Therefore anything in the platinum spot will
Speaker 2: be responded to as if it's an iconic meme. Do
Speaker 2: they not realize that's what it is? It's interesting thing.
Speaker 3: Like marketing business. Ye, people they always take away the
Speaker 3: wrong message.
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly the wrong message.
Speaker 2: It's like, I see it has to just go right
Speaker 2: before the movie, And.
Speaker 3: I always think about that they're paying the most attention.
Speaker 1: I always think about the the two like heads of
Speaker 1: the Beach Boys, Brian Wilson, who is like the musical genus,
Speaker 1: and then Mike Love, who is just like a guy
Speaker 1: who's like people like songs about chicks and surfing man
Speaker 1: and like just that argument. And like Mike Love obviously
Speaker 1: had the like backing of the labels, and so when
Speaker 1: like Brian Wilson turned in pet sounds, he was like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, guys, this sucks shit, Like we we were
Speaker 1: better than this. Guy's got dang French horns on it.
Speaker 1: A bunch of fucking for those dogs barking. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: they're pet sounds. I'm sorry, you're fired.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 3: It's like the Barbie movie. When it came out and
Speaker 3: was a huge box office success, Executives were like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, well people love movies based on toys, so
Speaker 3: let's do a hot Wheels movie. Let's do a fucking
Speaker 3: playmobile movie.
Speaker 2: All that ship is there gonna be There's not gonna
Speaker 2: be a playmobile.
Speaker 3: Movie, right, well not yet until I write it.
Speaker 2: They're like they're the most stiff of like the block
Speaker 2: toy people. I'm like, bro, the hell no, Bro, the
Speaker 2: Plainmobile that's a fucking l yeah, well that's the same
Speaker 2: thing where they're just like, we just need a Barbenheimer. Basically,
Speaker 2: we just need two movies to come out on the
Speaker 2: same weekend.
Speaker 1: Remember, then everyone our toe into a weird Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well how many how many minutes of commercials are there now?
Speaker 2: Because I typically I always give myself ten minutes because
Speaker 2: I'm like, you can always be timinous late, So I
Speaker 2: am weird.
Speaker 1: My wife talks about how like the only I'm I'm
Speaker 1: usually a fairly late person, just like that I run
Speaker 1: late naturally, and the one thing that I am never late,
Speaker 1: I'm like forty five minutes before a movie, I'm like,
Speaker 1: we better get going, we better hit the road here.
Speaker 1: She's like, what the fuck? Like you weren't this on
Speaker 1: time for my birthday? And yet like every every time
Speaker 1: we're going to see a movie.
Speaker 3: Final Destination, blood Lines, blood Lines, we gotta there's and
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just I need the trailer, like
Speaker 3: I love the trailer.
Speaker 2: We gotta go. I don't. I hate to do this,
Speaker 2: but I will go ghost protocol on you. No, I
Speaker 2: don't tell.
Speaker 1: At that point, I just put the hood up. She knows,
Speaker 1: she knows it goes protocol. So when you say how
Speaker 1: many minutes?
Speaker 3: So because there are ads before the trailers start saying, OK,
Speaker 3: twenty five minutes of trailers usually so yeah.
Speaker 2: So what I mean is like if it says it's
Speaker 2: a one thirty showing, that means that shit starts at
Speaker 2: two pretty much. That's so disrespectful.
Speaker 1: I know, you know what I mean. It infuriates.
Speaker 3: I love trailers, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but like I don't know,
Speaker 3: make them shorter, show fewer of them. Don't make me
Speaker 3: sit through more than.
Speaker 1: The variability of it is. What is frustrating the fact
Speaker 1: that sometimes, like the weekend Barbie came out, we were like, well,
Speaker 1: we can get there a little bit late because it's
Speaker 1: going to be like five hours of trailers. There's like
Speaker 1: two minutes of trail. It was like we missed the
Speaker 1: first scene because of the fucking trailer. Yeah, like they
Speaker 1: just there's no real logic to it. This is actually
Speaker 1: there's a bill that somebody's trying to get past, where
Speaker 1: like movie theaters have to tell you when the movie
Speaker 1: actually starts. Oh really can oh, thank you the start
Speaker 1: time for the present, but then we need a feature
Speaker 1: presentation start time, which I'm on board, but it also
Speaker 1: when they mentioned it. I was like, like that that
Speaker 1: sounded like science fiction to me, like anything that is
Speaker 1: based on just like valuing consumer and just like human
Speaker 1: beings experience over like the money making possibilities. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's not our timeline. That's a different world that never
Speaker 1: had democrats.
Speaker 2: I know, you guys are looking for a low hanging
Speaker 2: fruit because you don't want to contend with the real
Speaker 2: shit going on. You can you can take on terms
Speaker 2: and conditions. We've all talked about how we hate all
Speaker 2: the fine print. We can talk about now legislation around
Speaker 2: when a movie will start that will probably poll very
Speaker 2: well based on what we've read about democrats. You're like, well,
Speaker 2: if it polls popularly, maybe it's a policy we can.
Speaker 1: But those are the highest hanging fruits for democrats because
Speaker 1: they are corporate. They require them to do something that
Speaker 1: would anger corporations like that. It is like an impossibility
Speaker 1: for them.
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, they'll throttle it back. What if we
Speaker 2: gave like a fifteen minute window where the film may start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what if we lied and said it was this time,
Speaker 1: but then they came and they still had like three
Speaker 1: Lexus ads to watch. Oh yeah, well that's lexus ads
Speaker 1: told a story. The lexus ads are the movie.
Speaker 3: You know, when you like order a couch or something
Speaker 3: and they give you like a delivery window of like
Speaker 3: eight hours. I show up that they should do that
Speaker 3: for movies, Like there's an eight hour window when this
Speaker 3: movie couldn't start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably where we're headed. But it seems like
Speaker 1: it's gonna be unpopular, but like not unpopular enough for
Speaker 1: brands to not take advantage of the platinum spot. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just remember like in the nineties in LA there
Speaker 2: were only two things that were not trailers that would
Speaker 2: play before the movie R three. That one would be
Speaker 2: just be like the general ad for the theater you're at.
Speaker 2: The other one would be like a Coca Cola Polar
Speaker 2: Bear fucking spot or like the let's.
Speaker 1: All go to the lobby, let's talk.
Speaker 2: And then the one they played a lot in LA
Speaker 2: where these La Times commercials about like weird shit on
Speaker 2: movie sets like little it would be like little vignettes
Speaker 2: from a movie set where like a PA would be like, hey,
Speaker 2: I need a spinner over here, stat and the guy's like,
Speaker 2: what's a spinner? Going all the departments on a set,
Speaker 2: like what's a spinner and they get to craft services
Speaker 2: and it's like a wooden coffee stirring thing too. He's like,
Speaker 2: just spinner and then like mixes the coffee. He's like oh,
Speaker 2: and it's like la times. It's like we know the biz,
Speaker 2: so you don't. It was like that kind of shit, Yeah,
Speaker 2: La times.
Speaker 1: Fucking turns. They're stupid as hell, right, lame as hell
Speaker 1: nog fuck them. Yeah, it is random like that. It
Speaker 1: does feel like now that they're doing this, I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's kind of miraculous that they didn't do this twenty
Speaker 1: years ago. Like that they've just been having ads for
Speaker 1: other movies, which makes sense to me, but then like
Speaker 1: ads for the movies in general and the concession stand
Speaker 1: like it just feels like from another era, Like stop
Speaker 1: motion popcorn guy is going to tell you to go
Speaker 1: to eat popcorn.
Speaker 3: There's when you when you go to a movie in
Speaker 3: a different country. Ever heard of it?
Speaker 1: Maybe try it sometime.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, when you're seeing Anchorman somewhere.
Speaker 3: Or Anchorman two?
Speaker 1: Anchorman? Do you keep speaking of this.
Speaker 3: Trip to Ireland? I went on with my sister. I
Speaker 3: went to the movies in Ireland and instead, well, I
Speaker 3: think in addition to ads and trailers, they also have
Speaker 3: like p s as where it's like here's what to
Speaker 3: do if you fall through thin ice, and like here's
Speaker 3: how not to drown or like it was just like
Speaker 3: and I was like, wait a minute, it was like
Speaker 3: survival tips.
Speaker 1: I just came on. The people are watching it, yes,
Speaker 1: and I was like, unbelievable, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're falling first crypto scam what oh,
Speaker 2: thank you, Here's what to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's actually like sponsored by Crypto you know,
Speaker 1: it is in America and by come on now, brought
Speaker 1: to you by.
Speaker 2: Fucking yeah bathing by Crypto dot com arena.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about it. Let's let's continue talking
Speaker 1: about cool marketing and the world that we live in.
Speaker 1: It's June, which means it's time of the year when
Speaker 1: corporations trot out their ill conceived acts of self serving
Speaker 1: performative LGBTQ ally ship a La Burger Kings twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two Pride Whopper Did you yummy? You guys remember this one?
Speaker 1: This was a whopper where Austria, Right in Austria, you
Speaker 1: could either get two top buns or two bottom buns.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the picture.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I didn't realize what I was looking at
Speaker 3: until you said.
Speaker 1: This, And wow, the two bottom buns looks good. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's reminding me of like Texas
Speaker 1: toast a little bit, you know, it's like, yeahs buttered.
Speaker 2: It looks like a sour dough jack.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does look like. That's what I'm thinking. The
Speaker 1: top one too, bready.
Speaker 2: Also completely right, but if you're into that, of course, yeah,
Speaker 2: two bottoms.
Speaker 1: I'm not okay with that. I'm okay with everything, but
Speaker 1: not okay with people who are into two hamburger top ones.
Speaker 1: That's where I draw the line.
Speaker 3: So it's just like a traditional bun with a top
Speaker 3: and a bottom? Are those for?
Speaker 1: Just like verse?
Speaker 2: I know that's what I mean.
Speaker 1: Well, so that's the confusing thing, because that's not how
Speaker 1: like we you can't two bottoms and two tops is not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not fun. But then they were like, oh so
Speaker 1: so this is This is a quote from someone who said,
Speaker 1: when I first saw the burger, I thought it was
Speaker 1: a joke about two tops or two bottoms. It took
Speaker 1: me a little while to realize they were supposed to
Speaker 1: be representing same sex couples by having same type buns
Speaker 1: paired up.
Speaker 2: You absolute dummy.
Speaker 1: Fucking swish from the logo.
Speaker 2: You know it. Not a single person from that community
Speaker 2: is in that fucking marketing like meeting where they'd.
Speaker 1: Never heard the phrase tops and bottoms.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's like the two girl ones and the
Speaker 2: two boy ones. Yeah, yeah there and then I'm sure
Speaker 2: that's how someone said it too.
Speaker 3: Okay, Wait, is is the top rounded bun the quote
Speaker 3: unquote girl or boy?
Speaker 2: Wait? Which ones? Which which?
Speaker 1: And that's up to your interpretation. That's how little thing
Speaker 1: is that they don't even tell you.
Speaker 2: That doesn't matter. Hey, to us, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: We don't mature, you know whatever weird stuff you're in,
Speaker 1: and it is weird closed.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, this burger looks fucking freaky. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna lie. This looks fucking weird. But hey, whatever you
Speaker 2: we love you, We're by it.
Speaker 1: Please, but you don't know what you got until it's gone,
Speaker 1: you guys. A phrase that I just made up the
Speaker 1: right is celebrating the fact that stores like Macy's and
Speaker 1: Target are like this Pride Month are not given like
Speaker 1: the front page is just Father's day. Shit, they have
Speaker 1: Pride stuff, but it's like buried on the website.
Speaker 2: People post, people post like from inside the Target. They're like,
Speaker 2: look at this year's display. It's gone, We're winning America.
Speaker 2: And you're like, yeah, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: I mean Target's losing money though. So Target has a
Speaker 1: Pride Neutrals collection, which is pretty wide. It's a Pride
Speaker 1: Pride clothes that are just like like skin tone, like
Speaker 1: they're they're just all like beige neutral, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: like the it's there.
Speaker 2: Was one that there's like a T shirt that just
Speaker 2: has a rainbow tag at the bottom. Hem yes, and
Speaker 2: they're like, that's Pride.
Speaker 1: They're selling a Pride sweatshirt that has a that's just
Speaker 1: a beige hoodie with out loud and Proud written in
Speaker 1: tiny print on the string. So they're saying out loud
Speaker 1: and proud in like a way that seems like it's
Speaker 1: an act of satire.
Speaker 2: Wow, well, I mean this this all tracks because you
Speaker 2: know how the cowardice of Target with Trump coming into office,
Speaker 2: they're like, NODI know nothing, no, no, we're against everything
Speaker 2: now is that what you want? Trump? Meanwhile, black people
Speaker 2: have completely boycotted Target and many other people have too,
Speaker 2: but like it's and there are constant calls to continue
Speaker 2: the boycotts for Target, and it's it's showing up in
Speaker 2: their bottom line. They're like year over year foot traffics down,
Speaker 2: revenues going down. But hey, I'm is this what you
Speaker 2: Is that good for a business to have people not
Speaker 2: come anymore?
Speaker 3: Just right used to they try to course correct, you
Speaker 3: would think.
Speaker 2: But maybe this is their way to be Like, maybe
Speaker 2: they'll be okay if it's just like the most sort
Speaker 2: of so obscure, subtle version of pride, because that's what
Speaker 2: pride's all about, just doing yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, keeping it under wraps and not being out
Speaker 3: and loud and proud. I read something that the CEO
Speaker 3: took like a huge had to take like a huge
Speaker 3: pay cut because of the loss of revenue.
Speaker 2: So that's nice. Yeah, it's to please the shareholders.
Speaker 7: I'll take less money, so, you know, just just we're
Speaker 7: just save some things there based on the fact that
Speaker 7: we've upset pretty much all non Republican voters.
Speaker 1: And probably doing massive like stock buybacks to enrich themselves
Speaker 1: or you know, something along those lines. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't really know what a stock buyback is but you
Speaker 1: know how the c suite people are able to always
Speaker 1: figure something out Golden parachutes. You know, just imagine that,
Speaker 1: I know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: These these clothes are so ugly. I'm looking at the.
Speaker 1: Really like and to have it out loud and proud
Speaker 1: written only on the draw string is so so wild.
Speaker 1: It's but yeah, I mean, they are afraid of reprisals
Speaker 1: from some type of people, you know, They're afraid of
Speaker 1: Trump targeting them. They're afraid of Trump supporters doing what
Speaker 1: they did with bud Light. And because those tend to
Speaker 1: be the people who maybe show up in their social
Speaker 1: media algorithms more so than you know, people of color
Speaker 1: or working class people, that's probably the thing that hits
Speaker 1: hardest with them, would be my guess, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they they don't seem to be worried about target
Speaker 1: boycotts or anything. They just seem to be worried about
Speaker 1: is Donald Trump gonna be mad at us?
Speaker 2: Brave? Brave?
Speaker 1: So I mean bailing on the kind of cringey promotion
Speaker 1: isn't the end of the world. But the bigger problem
Speaker 1: is they're no longer sponsoring pride events like Pride organizers
Speaker 1: in the US have been dealing with a sudden massive
Speaker 1: budget deficit this year due to normally reliable companies withdrawing
Speaker 1: their financial support, and YC Pride is down seven hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars as a result when it comes
Speaker 1: to like planning and funding their celebration, which that's what's
Speaker 1: them just being cowardly and like moving the display to
Speaker 1: the back and moving the pride messaging to the drawstring
Speaker 1: is like I see the corporate logic there, but then
Speaker 1: also just being like we're also not going to like
Speaker 1: provide any money, like quiet.
Speaker 2: They can't be too. Yeah, it's just so that's why
Speaker 2: it's so offensive, And I'm like, yeah, fuck these places,
Speaker 2: like when they don't even have the like no courage
Speaker 2: at all. And and again I think it also, like
Speaker 2: you said, it reveals how performative this shit is to
Speaker 2: begin with, because if it can be fucking in a
Speaker 2: snap just taken back, it was y'all were never about
Speaker 2: it to begin with. But unfortunately that does mean that
Speaker 2: people take a hit. But also, what do you think
Speaker 2: happens in these cities when they have Pride fest People
Speaker 2: come in to congregate, and I'm sure the money people
Speaker 2: know that creates revenue.
Speaker 3: They're spending money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but again they'll just do this to please like
Speaker 2: such a slim minority of people who will just post
Speaker 2: to libs of TikTok or some shit, and they're like, sorry,
Speaker 2: we just we can't handle this. We can't handle. What
Speaker 2: we can handle is our bottom line being negatively affected
Speaker 2: by boycotts because people are upset with our backwards policies.
Speaker 3: Now mm hm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pride is like the biggest day, like they it's
Speaker 1: some of these plates like Airbnb has estimated that Pride
Speaker 1: festivals bringing seventy seven million nationally to like hosts. Lift
Speaker 1: has reported that Pride has an even bigger impact on
Speaker 1: demand for ride shares than a Taylor Swift concert. This
Speaker 1: Pride brings in sixteen to eighteen million for Ohio's economy
Speaker 1: each year. But they're not doing it. And it's an
Speaker 1: especially bad time for these organizations to be running out
Speaker 1: of funding because they need way more money because they're
Speaker 1: having to spend extra money on security in order to
Speaker 1: protect people from the right wing extremists. That those companies
Speaker 1: are worried about offending frustrating, and those are the ones
Speaker 1: that we have a lot of evidence of you know,
Speaker 1: massive acts of violence being perpetrated on Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: IGBTQ community. You know everyone. We're always taking lessons this year.
Speaker 2: I hope one is to know that these companies don't
Speaker 2: give a fun do not give a funny thing except
Speaker 2: for their bottom line. And that was ever fucking don't
Speaker 2: ever stop like we all I feel like twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five is a year, but people have to stop falling
Speaker 2: for it. Stop the market based.
Speaker 1: Like the market's gonna correct and the companies aren't going
Speaker 1: to allow for a dictatorship to happen, because that would
Speaker 1: be bad for their bottom line. Like those people have
Speaker 1: all been shut the fuck up, like presses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they all got.
Speaker 1: In live, everybody got in line. Yeah. There's a whole
Speaker 1: list of companies here that just bailed on. You know,
Speaker 1: Anheuser Busch, which has been sponsoring Pride in Saint Louis
Speaker 1: for thirty years, backed out. Whoa, yeah, yeah, it's fucked up. Cowards, cowards.
Speaker 1: I mean they were doing it when it yeah, probably
Speaker 1: wasn't that popular, but now now they're they're backing out,
Speaker 1: so yep.
Speaker 2: But it's it's just, I mean, the funny thing is
Speaker 2: all this shit that they tried to do disappear like
Speaker 2: the contributions of black or gay people in this country,
Speaker 2: and like reach changing the names of fucking battleships, change
Speaker 2: the nameless Harvey Milk ship, doing it something else. It's
Speaker 2: all it really does. I mean, in a way, I
Speaker 2: think they believe that merely just needs, like very superficial
Speaker 2: things will completely push back people and make them ashamed
Speaker 2: or something or not feel like that this isn't a
Speaker 2: place where they can exist. But on the same time,
Speaker 2: there's this article I think that we shared on the
Speaker 2: footnotes from earlier this week that was talking about how
Speaker 2: this is set off a bunch of smaller pride events
Speaker 2: that are completely sort of separate from this, like corporate version,
Speaker 2: where people are merely as like human beings coming together
Speaker 2: to celebrate and have their own events. So, I mean
Speaker 2: it just shows you, like, even if you want to
Speaker 2: try and cut off like the corporate head of these things,
Speaker 2: it's not going to stop people from celebrating their communities
Speaker 2: and things like that, which is what they want. But
Speaker 2: again it's not sorry, that's not happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, queer people are very good at finding
Speaker 3: community and choosing family and like getting together and making
Speaker 3: their own building their own communities.
Speaker 1: So without the help, without the help, no, I just
Speaker 1: don't know how I'm gonna do it without Anheuser, bush
Speaker 1: around or Comcast. God got a blow, damn yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
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Speaker 1: from things like poker Face.
Speaker 2: And Russian Doll American Pie like that.
Speaker 3: I'm a cheerleader, but I'm a cheerlead.
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Speaker 2: Happened to Purdue Who wasn't that wasn't They never go on?
Speaker 2: Sorry it didn't mean anyways. Uh.
Speaker 1: She is the co founder of Asteria, an AI production
Speaker 1: studio that claims to be an artist led ethical AI
Speaker 1: Film and Animation studio, and they are launching with a
Speaker 1: movie called Uncanny Valley that will be made by combining
Speaker 1: AI tools with traditional filmmaking techniques. Describes itself as an
Speaker 1: The production company just describes itself as an artist led
Speaker 1: ethical AI film an Animation studio. The news has obviously
Speaker 1: sparked it back, prompting her to clarify that the movie
Speaker 1: won't omit any department heads or production designers or cinematographers.
Speaker 1: That has more like a green screen or something like that. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's the way that's written. It's like they write the
Speaker 1: way she talks. It's like a green screen or something
Speaker 1: like that. Like oh okay, yeah, yeah, that's not too bad.
Speaker 1: It's like, but this is a weird move for an actor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, especially when you have people like Joseph Gordon
Speaker 2: Levitt who are like, this is going to take away
Speaker 2: the incentive for people to even create or want to
Speaker 2: strive for something if if AI takes all over all
Speaker 2: this shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they claim that it's like trained on only what
Speaker 1: licensed licensed content. However, when you ask other companies like
Speaker 1: how how you why don't you just like use licensed content,
Speaker 1: They're like that would be impossible. Like none of this
Speaker 1: is possible with just license content, so remains to be
Speaker 1: seen how that's actually working out, because it's a very.
Speaker 2: It's this, but that's what the chat cheep, the open
Speaker 2: a open AI lady said a few years ago when
Speaker 2: they were talking about there, like it's actually through like
Speaker 2: light it like agreements that we have with people. And
Speaker 2: then it came out that it wasn't it.
Speaker 1: Was just and I love to say that she's license
Speaker 1: should be noted. Asteria was founded by Leoni and her
Speaker 1: boyfriend Brinn Mooser. What brit Hyan Mooser? There's no, like
Speaker 1: I think maybe it's Brian, Like I don't know, No,
Speaker 1: that's Brandon. Sorry, that's a that's a Mooser if I've
Speaker 1: ever seen one. M O O s e R. Who
Speaker 1: is a tech bro whose mentors include Bob Iger and
Speaker 1: Elon Musk. So in case you were wondering where this
Speaker 1: idea came from and who was telling her, Like now
Speaker 1: this is fine, we talking about Oh my god.
Speaker 2: The weird and Natasha run they're running an OPI Although
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe you do believe this, but like
Speaker 2: when I like how this dude was described as a
Speaker 2: quote serial entrepreneur.
Speaker 1: I know that, And that's like a thing they say
Speaker 1: is good, Like, that's that's what you want people to
Speaker 1: introduce you as.
Speaker 2: To me, I see somebody who doesn't. It was just like,
Speaker 2: will fucking try and make anything fucking happen by any
Speaker 2: means necessary. I'n't tell this lady. I love her, Okay,
Speaker 2: I give.
Speaker 1: Who Just tell me who the best person to have
Speaker 1: on our side is. I'll make it happen.
Speaker 2: Will going to AI AI? Who is the best celebrity
Speaker 2: actress I could use to help? Sort of trojan horse?
Speaker 2: The idea of an AI company in Hollywood being a
Speaker 2: good thing?
Speaker 3: Hey, Also, the company describing itself as being an ethical
Speaker 3: AI an animation sude like there's no such thing as
Speaker 3: ethical AI.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, based on the environmental impact alone, but on then
Speaker 3: also everything else, But like, no such thing.
Speaker 2: That's why everything they say is bullshit. You didn't train
Speaker 2: it on licensed to material. This shit isn't ethical. You're
Speaker 2: just saying all the things to try and neutralize those
Speaker 2: first instincts people have when they hear about AI in
Speaker 2: a space anywhere, because people are gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's just gonna probably you're gonna be firing human beings
Speaker 2: and they go, no, we didn't even get rid of
Speaker 2: any department heads, nothing like that. And it's not even
Speaker 2: trained off other people's copyrighted materials. And it's also like
Speaker 2: ethical and it's it's cruelty free and organic okay on GMO. Okay.
Speaker 1: Corporations can't say ethical if it's not ethical, you guys,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Oh, I'm sorry. No, it's the opposite. They
Speaker 1: would never say ethical if it was actually ethical. They
Speaker 1: would only do something ethical by accident.
Speaker 2: If it's horribly unethical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well one of the big uh so, the controvert
Speaker 1: people are like, this is bullshit. And then Natasha Leoni,
Speaker 1: who was neighbors with David Lynch, was like, I actually
Speaker 1: talked to David Lynch and he signed off on this project.
Speaker 2: Motherfucker, he said.
Speaker 1: I asked him, Hey, David, what do you think of AI?
Speaker 1: And he said, Natasha, look over there, this is a pencil. Okay,
Speaker 1: everyone has access to a pencil, and likewise everyone with
Speaker 1: a phone will be using AI if they aren't already.
Speaker 1: It's how you use the pencil, you see, And that
Speaker 1: maybe true? What does he mean?
Speaker 9: Yeah, just like everybody, everybody's gonna use be using AI,
Speaker 9: which may be true, but it doesn't mean that like
Speaker 9: he's thought through the ethical implications of its use, or
Speaker 9: that everybody's like that he's fully up on like what
Speaker 9: the environmental impact.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't know if David Lynch was in
Speaker 2: the right state to really be fully answering the question
Speaker 2: about the This is.
Speaker 1: Just her work. Somebody who was like Natasha Leoni the
Speaker 1: next time she's asked about AI and just showed the
Speaker 1: poster for Weekend at Bernie's because they were like kind
Speaker 1: of weird to be, Yeah, using David Lynch as your
Speaker 1: shield here, loved dead filmmaker as your puppet for saying that.
Speaker 3: This, yeah, well yeah, we can't ask him to clarify.
Speaker 2: It's kind of perfect, you know, to put words in
Speaker 2: a dead person's mouth like that, and like because you
Speaker 2: have enough plausible deny that, like, well, well, first of all,
Speaker 2: I'm his neighbor. We were neighbors, so of course I
Speaker 2: was talking to him, and you know, you're talking about
Speaker 2: my neighbor right now. That's my neighbor, David Lynch, you're
Speaker 2: talking about You said it was okay, it's a pencil,
Speaker 2: it's a pencil, Okay, it's a very cool pencil that
Speaker 2: will burn the earth down.
Speaker 1: But people within Hollywood are saying that AI is already
Speaker 1: being made or being used to make a lot of content.
Speaker 1: It's just they're not admitting it. So it's like a
Speaker 1: thing where like, for instance, a costume designer will get
Speaker 1: a job and they'll have to like turn something around
Speaker 1: really quickly, and so they'll have the AI generate the
Speaker 1: idea for them, and then instead of turning that in,
Speaker 1: they will then hire an artist to draw the thing
Speaker 1: AI generated and then be like whila, original creation drawing,
Speaker 1: original human, original human drawing. And then they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: but isn't that worse And they're like yeah, but nobody notices, right,
Speaker 1: that's just what is happening, Like across the board. I
Speaker 1: feel like like, well that and like that they are.
Speaker 2: Using NDAs for people, like when they are using AI.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll tell anybody we use AI, I'm all fuck
Speaker 8: you up because we can't have the Unions coming at
Speaker 8: us like it's so fucking underhanded. And I'm you know,
Speaker 8: I'm not surprised like that.
Speaker 2: It's already creeping in more and more and more, just
Speaker 2: not in a fucking hooray type of way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one a story bird artist storybird storyboard artists
Speaker 1: said quote, and if your back's against the wall, it's tempting,
Speaker 1: even if the result is of dubious quality and dubious
Speaker 1: ethical makeup. And I feel like this is exactly what
Speaker 1: everything is going. Like all jobs are just going to
Speaker 1: be people using AI to create C plus work, and
Speaker 1: there's just no penalty for turning in C plus work,
Speaker 1: and so it's just like everything's going to get shittier
Speaker 1: in a way that will be I mean everything already
Speaker 1: has gotten shittier, you know, and like nothing happened. So
Speaker 1: once we let them get away with that, and now
Speaker 1: now that you can just like turn it over to
Speaker 1: a fucking automated C plus machine, like you're we're just
Speaker 1: going to see everything turned to shit and we're not
Speaker 1: even going to be able to like describe what's happening.
Speaker 3: It's the idea of like putting a band aid on
Speaker 3: the problem, but not treating the problem itself. Because the
Speaker 3: problem is like everyone's overworked and underwhelmed, and there's deadlines
Speaker 3: and because because of capitalism and we so we just
Speaker 3: have to like churn out shit that AI generates to
Speaker 3: like meet the deadline or whatever, and rather than I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: let's let's I don't know, dismantle capitalism so we're not
Speaker 3: all like killing ourselves trying to get work done that
Speaker 3: doesn't even fucking need to be done in the first place.
Speaker 3: We've just invented all of these whatever, fucking arbitrary totally
Speaker 3: fabricated assignments and deadlines and all that.
Speaker 2: But kaylin, I just saw what the Hulk Vthano's fistfight
Speaker 2: should have, how it should have three yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And that's it. Like, that's what's so funny to me.
Speaker 2: They Hollywood should have been the first fucking line of
Speaker 2: defense against this ship to be like, this is going
Speaker 2: to fucking kill us.
Speaker 3: Further, well, they haven't been in all the movies that
Speaker 3: are like, hey, yeah.
Speaker 2: A written by normal people in the studio heads, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, where they're.
Speaker 3: Like again, I'm like, I'm like, why doren't why aren't
Speaker 3: we remembering? Fuck? You know, the Matrix Terminator. All the
Speaker 3: movies were Ai is Ai Aihi.
Speaker 2: But I think you know because like we talked on
Speaker 2: Trends yesterday about this commercial that was made fully with
Speaker 2: AI and it again it looks like shit, but you
Speaker 2: can based on what a video looks like a year ago,
Speaker 2: like and if this is where we're at now, I
Speaker 2: can't imagine in another year from now what it's gonna
Speaker 2: look like. But that's a direct threat to the two
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty billion dollars a year TV ad industry.
Speaker 2: Like if people can just start cooking up shit like
Speaker 2: this and they're not even seeing that part of it,
Speaker 2: they're like, well, we can get away with underpaying people
Speaker 2: or using less people we have to pay by using
Speaker 2: AI without realizing that the proliferation of it is creating
Speaker 2: an existential threat to everything you do, because now anyone
Speaker 2: can shit out this crap. But go ahead, I guess, well,
Speaker 2: I guess you'll just have to find out as you
Speaker 2: fuck around.
Speaker 1: Nah, it never works that way. Yeah, Nah, we fuck
Speaker 1: around and then it just keeps getting better.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, soon we're all going to be just like working
Speaker 3: at those whatever fucking cooling data centers and like I
Speaker 3: don't know, throwing buckets of water on the drinking Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that'll be all of ours before you AI users.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, if you work at the data
Speaker 2: center cooling rooms, you actually get to sip the water
Speaker 2: that you throw them.
Speaker 1: And you get to steal SIPs all day waters, unlimited
Speaker 1: SIPs and unlimited days off.
Speaker 2: Whoa, you're gonna love it here. But they don't pay me.
Speaker 1: It's the SIPs. They pay me in SIPs.
Speaker 3: That's what That's what our future is.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I know it does feel like that, like.
Speaker 1: Anyways, good time. Yeah, it's gonna be good. We're going
Speaker 1: to figure it out. We're going to figure it out. Caitlin.
Speaker 1: Such a pleasure having you as always on the daily zite.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 3: Oh, you can follow me mostly on Instagram and you can.
Speaker 3: I have a screenwriting an intro to screenwriting class that
Speaker 3: starts in like early mid August area a couple months
Speaker 3: from now. If you go to my website Kaitlindurante dot
Speaker 3: com slash classes, you can find more info there and
Speaker 3: you can register if you're interested. What else, that's pretty
Speaker 3: much it. I mean, listen to the beachdel cast, et cetera.
Speaker 2: You must, you must, so good, you must.
Speaker 1: Is there a work a media that you've been enjoying? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had mentioned The Ugly Step Sister, which I
Speaker 3: think came out in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's a recent film. It is the Cinderella narrative as
Speaker 3: told through the lens of the ugly stepsister.
Speaker 1: Oh, done with the wickedization of the ugly step sister.
Speaker 3: It's a body horror movie.
Speaker 2: It happens to them.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: You'll have to watch and find out. I really liked
Speaker 3: it and I picked it because I once again couldn't
Speaker 3: think of anything else because I don't go online. I
Speaker 3: don't see what people are socialing posting on social media
Speaker 3: except for I mean piece of media. I've enjoying Caitlin
Speaker 3: Johnstone's entire feed and all the stuff that she says
Speaker 3: about how Israel sucks and all of that.
Speaker 2: Anyway, they don't go on social media.
Speaker 3: I mean that's my feed is literally on Instagram, like
Speaker 3: it's it's news about Palestine and it's cat videos. Okay,
Speaker 3: it's those two things.
Speaker 2: Balance balance, balance, Yeah, Miles, where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Is there a workimedia you've been enjoying me?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Oh, you can find me at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 2: Everywhere you find Jack, I have the basketball podcast twenty
Speaker 2: Day for twenty day fiance. My mom said I should
Speaker 2: mumble less in the outro, So I'm trying to be
Speaker 2: more eloquent and more elegm.
Speaker 3: Listens, my sister doesn't.
Speaker 2: My mom listens and gives a lot more feedback than
Speaker 2: I'd like from someone who doesn't podcast mom anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's where you find it.
Speaker 1: Is she maybe passing a long feedback to you.
Speaker 2: She will, she will. My mom will not hold back.
Speaker 2: She will hit you with a direct note if she
Speaker 2: wanted me to give you Jack, because I remember early on,
Speaker 2: early on, my mom's big note was Jack always sounds nervous.
Speaker 1: And then just on me in general.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she goes, is he nervous? Is he nervous?
Speaker 2: This is like the I remember the first like first
Speaker 2: year of the thing, and then year two she's like, Jack,
Speaker 2: is he's not nervous anymore? I can hear it. He's like,
Speaker 2: this show is so good with the two of you,
Speaker 2: And she's like, but you have to stop mumbling and
Speaker 2: saying things that don't make sense. So this is the
Speaker 2: show called nervous, nervous and shit and the guy who
Speaker 2: makes no sense that is happening all the time, nervous
Speaker 2: and mumble mouth thanks mom Um. Gotta love a little
Speaker 2: bit of immigrant parent feedback on something that's become your
Speaker 2: life's work. Okay, a couple of things I like from
Speaker 2: Blue Sky, Uh just on the elon musk and Donald
Speaker 2: Trump saga at Nikki mcr skuy on social post it
Speaker 2: it's like watching the shittiest couple you know break up
Speaker 2: in the maul food court. Yes, it is that. Another
Speaker 2: one siege at siege dot online. They should invent a
Speaker 2: pill that shrinks you down to the size of a
Speaker 2: teeny little guy before long flights, stretched out on a
Speaker 2: tiny beach chair, pitched on the seat, nibbling a peanut
Speaker 2: the size of your body, drinking a bloody marry out
Speaker 2: of a thimble, et cetera.
Speaker 1: And then at monetize that we call it the platinum pill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the platinum pill. Oh god, so tiny. This is
Speaker 2: how we're gonna get man housing crisis solved. If every
Speaker 2: if we can fit forty two million people in the
Speaker 2: studio apartment, the pill.
Speaker 1: There's a is it a Matt Damon moved downsize?
Speaker 5: Ye?
Speaker 2: Downsize right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: A movie that I should have been so like I
Speaker 1: was raised on Honey, I shrunk the kids. I think
Speaker 1: it was like a famous director was making it Love
Speaker 1: a Matt Damon and did not watch it and have
Speaker 1: never once been told like you should have watched that one.
Speaker 2: Alexander Paide, that's.
Speaker 1: Lexander Pain was like what if like Honey, I shrunk
Speaker 1: the kids was like moody And for adults.
Speaker 2: What if I follow up Nebraska with this director?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I always get him and David O.
Speaker 2: Russell confused anyway, And then the last post, I like
Speaker 2: Chase at Madar dot be Scout at Social posted because
Speaker 2: we're talking about Kree Jean Pierre's new book, Karim Jean Pierre,
Speaker 2: far from being a turncoat, has stayed true to the
Speaker 2: essence of our institutional Democratic party, self seeking careerism welded
Speaker 2: to embarrassing incompetence. I have no doubt the former colleagues
Speaker 2: denouncing her feel this and are cheering her on. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore,
Speaker 1: Brian on Blue Sky at jack ob The number one
Speaker 1: tweet I enjoyed at two thick Scoops tweeted just the
Speaker 1: Gmail summary from you know how the iPhone will give
Speaker 1: you or your phone will give you, like a Gmail
Speaker 1: summary of what's going on in your inbox and it
Speaker 1: said Gmail Jersey Mike's order pick up at twelve forty
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Speaker 1: He said, okay, sounds good. Thank you.
Speaker 2: We need someone to talk about when you give to
Speaker 2: the Jersey Mikes, and.
Speaker 1: Then I do enjoy the images. AI could never recreate account.
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Speaker 1: information that we talked about in today's episode. We also
Speaker 1: link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 1: is there a song that you think that people might enjoy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so wet leg you know, hot off the Shaise
Speaker 2: Long Chase, Long just Fever that captains song is more
Speaker 2: changed the way I pronounced Shase long Bean Shay's Long.
Speaker 2: They got a new single out cause CPR It's and
Speaker 2: I'm really digging it. So this is the new single
Speaker 2: from wet Leg cp R wet Leg.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I lind that album, totally forgot about it all right,
Speaker 1: Well we will link off to that in the footnote
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