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Speaker 1: It's one Bill's Live. We come to you every day

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Speaker 1: from Orchard Park, from right next door to New air Afield.

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Speaker 1: You got to look at it there in the MSG

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Speaker 1: Ever gonna leave? Oh no, no, it'll be a while.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's painted on there. Maybe that's not. That's snow.

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Speaker 1: right away. Right, I have the same issue on my lawn.

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Speaker 1: You must have that two on your lawn, right, Good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: I'm John Murphy, the Steve Tasker, hearing from now until

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Speaker 1: three o'clock to talk to bills in the NFL with you.

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Speaker 1: Eight oh three five fifty the number two call toll

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Speaker 1: free from outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty. Did you spend much time with the

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Speaker 1: Sabers last night? See you did watch them really in

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Speaker 1: the dark in the basement. Me and my buddy, Me

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Speaker 1: and my buddy Verne watched it and uh yeah it

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Speaker 1: but you know, sometimes you get body language and stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's like, man, they they got so many games to go,

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Speaker 1: and it's one of those disappointing things again, like God,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to next game though not not this Thursday's game.

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Speaker 1: I got another game coming up though, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: there for that, Okay. And you're I'm not giving up

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Speaker 1: not giving up on him. You're not making the playoffs? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know what are you're not giving up? I've been

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Speaker 1: in that I've been in that boat before, you know.

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Speaker 1: So you know what are you're looking to see when

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Speaker 1: you go Thursday or your next game? You go, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, right, And it's no, it's no

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Speaker 1: more complicated in this, Murph. It's my team. I got tickets.

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Speaker 1: I'm going pretty simple. It's no, it's no more complicated

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Speaker 1: on board for a minute. Now now, yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: I'm nah, nah, I'm not giving up. I'm not leaving.

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Speaker 1: When they left Buffalo last Tuesday after the little homestand

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Speaker 1: I'm I still like going. What can I say? Is

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Speaker 1: And I can't get a twenty four either, because if

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Speaker 1: the minor coaching moves first. Mark Lubeck, who has been

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about this continuity of the Bills coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: into his fourth year. How important do you think coaching

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Speaker 1: continuity is to the Bills success? Maybe you think it's

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Speaker 1: not that much. You gotta get good players. I get that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you think it's everything. Maybe you think it's having

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Speaker 1: the same program here now for the fourth consecutive year

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Speaker 1: means something to the Bills. What do you think? How

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Speaker 1: important is coaching continuity to the Bills success? Give us

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Speaker 1: means a lot. The continuity the Bills have means an

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Speaker 1: awful lot, eight percent say it means a little, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of important to their success, and two percent means

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Speaker 1: important is coaching continuity to the Bills success? Jeffrey says,

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Speaker 1: it's been great to see both sides of the ball

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Speaker 1: not have to learn a new scheme the last two years.

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Speaker 1: It really allows them to hone the game into a finance.

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Speaker 1: It's a really good point. Not only is it the

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Speaker 1: same people setting the tone in the building, making the

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Speaker 1: call during practice, but they don't have to hit I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they hit the books hard, but they don't

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Speaker 1: have to relearn offense or defense. They have not now

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Speaker 1: for the third consecutive year. That's big, Steve, I think

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Speaker 1: that's really big. I think it's really big, not only

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Speaker 1: for the guys who have been here who can just

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Speaker 1: step in and say, yeah, okay, let's let's take off

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Speaker 1: from where we were, but it's also really good for

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Speaker 1: the guys coming in. As crazy as it sounds, being

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Speaker 1: in a situation where you're the guy who has to

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Speaker 1: learn it, you can ask questions of everybody. You can.

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Speaker 1: It's easier to pick it up when everybody is a

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you can. It's easier to

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Speaker 1: catch up when you're the only one that needs to

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Speaker 1: catch up and there's not everybody around you is also

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Speaker 1: trying to catch up. And it also because of that

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Speaker 1: atmosphere that they cultivate in this building. It's also one

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Speaker 1: where they you're going to develop and they're gonna give

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Speaker 1: you a chance to learn it. They've got to, you know,

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Speaker 1: They've got a way about developing young players that has

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Speaker 1: really proven successful in this far in their three year

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Speaker 1: tenure here. We may not get a lot out of

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Speaker 1: these draft picks that we're going to get in a

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Speaker 1: month or two months right off the bat, but we've

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Speaker 1: seen it as the season progresses, they're going to turn

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Speaker 1: into really good players. At least that has been the

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Speaker 1: way it looked in the last two years. These guys

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Speaker 1: that are going to draft earlier are going to get better,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna get better faster because of the culture

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Speaker 1: and the continuity that's already in place. It is amazing

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Speaker 1: to me that only three teams have had the same

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Speaker 1: coach and coordinators offense some defense for three three years Bills, Saints,

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers. I think it's indicative of kind of

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Speaker 1: the mindset that keeps the NFL in a state of chaos,

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Speaker 1: and maybe the play isn't as good as it should

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Speaker 1: be when teams are so eager to change out coordinators

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Speaker 1: owners I would blame for this, so eager to change

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Speaker 1: things didn't work. We're gonna get a new guy. Oh

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Speaker 1: his offense, we didn't score more than twenty points a game.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get a new guy. There's no development plan,

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Speaker 1: there's no You don't agree. I do. I kind of

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Speaker 1: think it's crazy. But here's the I don't only three

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Speaker 1: teams that that matters to. Here's the thing. What I

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Speaker 1: think is, there's my the Steve Tasker theory of what happens.

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Speaker 1: When we experienced at Murph. We're on a team that

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Speaker 1: was winning ten games and while their offense wasn't was

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Speaker 1: struggling or whatever whichever side of the ball it happens

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Speaker 1: to be. Look at the Kansas City Chiefs. They got

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Speaker 1: to the AFC Championship Game two years ago and got

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Speaker 1: lost in overtime to a powerhouse dynasty football team in

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots, who went on to win the

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Speaker 1: World Championship. They changed coordinators, they changed defensive coordinators. So

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Speaker 1: if you've got one side of the ball that's struggling

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Speaker 1: and it's just inevitable, you and I experienced this, sitt't

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Speaker 1: here anytime the Bills lost a game this year, Brian

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Speaker 1: day Ball took a pounding, took a pounding every time

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Speaker 1: the Bills lost a game this year. And you've got

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Speaker 1: a young quarterback who's developing, playing better and better and better.

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Speaker 1: You've got an offensive line that's with four new guys

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Speaker 1: in at the offensive playing much better. You've got two

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Speaker 1: new weapons for him. You're scoring more points than you

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Speaker 1: did the year before. You're winning games instead of losing

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Speaker 1: them close games. You're winning close games. And you've got

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Speaker 1: a young quarterback who's progressing. And a lot of it

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Speaker 1: has to do with the fact you got the same

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Speaker 1: has and gives him the same voice, the same advice

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Speaker 1: is bringing them along you had every time they stumbled.

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Speaker 1: People wanted his head. But you would expect that the

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Speaker 1: decision makers, owners whoever general managers would be better than that,

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Speaker 1: would know more than that. Apparently not in many cases, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe not. You would hope that they and they could

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Speaker 1: be too and there there is some of this too,

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Speaker 1: in being fair to to the people who make those decisions.

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Speaker 1: They could see something in the coordinator in the quarterback

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Speaker 1: relationship that's not quite right. Or they could see a

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Speaker 1: quarterback who needs to learn in a certain way and

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Speaker 1: a coordinator who doesn't teach that way and is not

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Speaker 1: ready to do that. Or they could get into a

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Speaker 1: place where a coordinator doesn't have the expertise in the

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Speaker 1: kind of offense they need to run because of this

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Speaker 1: particular quarterback. Or you want somebody or there's somebody better

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Speaker 1: you can improve it with. And like players, if you

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Speaker 1: can get a better player at the same price, get him,

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Speaker 1: coordinators kind of fall into that as well. So I

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Speaker 1: get it there's a lot of that going on. But

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Speaker 1: like you said, we were having this conversation before, and

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go, you know, too far down

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Speaker 1: this rabbit hole. I think the coordinators do kind of

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Speaker 1: have a shelf life a little bit, seems like to me,

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Speaker 1: where you get so familiar with this quarterback and so

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Speaker 1: familiar with this offense, sometimes you stagnate, you know, and

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Speaker 1: you've got the same players and you're you're good, but

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Speaker 1: you're not. And I think there's an unwillingness. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think this falls on the coordinator. I think that

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Speaker 1: falls more in the general manager and the head coach

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Speaker 1: to say, listen, we need to spice up this offense.

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Speaker 1: We're getting stagnant. You know, let's start. You better start

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Speaker 1: running it this way. We're gonna give you this guy,

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Speaker 1: start using him a little bit. You got you gotta

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Speaker 1: shake things up because we're getting predictable. There's a different stagnate.

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Speaker 1: When you stagnate, that means you become a little predictable.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily mean you have better or worse results,

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Speaker 1: but you become predictable. And I think there's sometimes when

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Speaker 1: a quarterback elevates his play mentally to the point where

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Speaker 1: this coordinator and him are on the same thing. That well,

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Speaker 1: if you want somebody to push this quarterback to be better,

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Speaker 1: you better get somebody new who has different ideas and

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Speaker 1: can push that envelope further. So that's some of that.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that every two or three years

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Speaker 1: isn't a little bit fast, but I think there's for

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Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback it would be faster. But for a

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Speaker 1: young quarterback that you know to bring them along, bring

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Speaker 1: them along, and bring them along. You get them to

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Speaker 1: a certain point, and maybe sometimes you need a fresh

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Speaker 1: ideas from a coordinator to say, hey, you need to

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Speaker 1: think start thinking about this. Let's do this on our

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Speaker 1: offense for a change. Some of that, I would argue,

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Speaker 1: and we've got to get to a break because Leslie

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Speaker 1: Frasier's coming in that. The moves made today by Sean McDermott,

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Speaker 1: basically not reassigning, just promoting a lot of guys is

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Speaker 1: an effort to freshen things up right. The name of

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Speaker 1: nickel coach, the name an assistant quarterback. Look, Shake Kearney's

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Speaker 1: been a big part of that quarterback room for a

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Speaker 1: couple of years as an offensive assistant. Now he's plugged

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Speaker 1: in there with probably a little bit more expanded role.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would think it even if not, at

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Speaker 1: least it's it's good for him and gives him, you know,

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Speaker 1: a louder voice than like we said on game day,

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Speaker 1: he got twenty two coaches on the staff, there's only

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Speaker 1: a few have a voice. You can't, no, not everybody

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Speaker 1: gets to speak a speaking role. So it'll his role

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Speaker 1: will probably be expanded and his responsibilities will be a

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Speaker 1: little bit different, with a little bit more to say

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Speaker 1: about what goes on between the lines on Sunday, and

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Speaker 1: good for him. Hey, we're gonna take a break. When

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Speaker 1: we come back, Leslie Frasier will join us the new

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Speaker 1: Bills assist and head coach. He maintains his job as

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Named assistant head coach by Sean McDermot today

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Speaker 1: and he'll be here out on the studio with us

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Speaker 1: when we come back. Come on back with us. One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live just getting started, presented by Kalida Health from

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Speaker 1: the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Come back. One Bill's Live coming to you from Orchard

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Speaker 1: Park in our studio. It's me John Murphy, Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: and our special guest. Defensive coordinator for the Bills and

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Speaker 1: just named the assistant head coach for the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: Leslie Frazier, coach. Congratulations, thanks for coming by with us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you John. Just great to be here with you

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Speaker 1: guys and get a chance to chat in the off

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Speaker 1: season following the combine. That's right, so the season starts.

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Speaker 1: Now you're the defensive coordinator and assistant head coach. Now

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to put in long hours, not like

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Speaker 1: that cushy job that you had before. Right, Yeah, go

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Speaker 1: home at four in the afternoon and keep put your

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Speaker 1: feet What does it mean though, to be assistant head coach?

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Speaker 1: How do you see your role changing, if at all?

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Speaker 1: You know, over the years, you know, I feel like

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Speaker 1: I've been involved in a lot more than our defense,

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Speaker 1: you know, just kind of behind the scenes. People don't

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Speaker 1: know some of the conversations that Sean and I've had

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Speaker 1: from the day I've gotten here, you know, when it comes.

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Speaker 1: Even when he was putting together the staff our first

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Speaker 1: go round when we got here, you know, we were

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Speaker 1: talking about staff, we were I mean, my role has

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Speaker 1: always gone beyond just coordinating defense, and obviously that's my

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Speaker 1: primary for sure, to make sure our defense is right.

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Speaker 1: But we've always talked about where our offense is, where

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Speaker 1: our special teams are, what's going on organizationally. Hey, Leslie,

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Speaker 1: I've got this meeting coming up with ownership with are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on this? And you know I looked at it,

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Speaker 1: John Steve where I felt like when I got here,

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Speaker 1: one of my responsibilities was to hopefully help Sean not

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Speaker 1: to make some of the same mistakes I made as

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Speaker 1: a first time head coach, and I've kind of, you know,

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Speaker 1: tried to embrace that. And fortunately for me, I'm with

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Speaker 1: a head coach who receives it the right way, doesn't

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Speaker 1: have an ego, not get caught up in pride, and

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Speaker 1: we can have those hard conversations. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: if my role will changed a whole lot other than

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Speaker 1: people on the outside knowing a little bit more about

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Speaker 1: what my role has been here in Buffalo. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: your role, and it's smart to you your experience as

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Speaker 1: a head coach in the past and the interest you're

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Speaker 1: getting these days has to get plucked away as a

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Speaker 1: head coach. It that really adds to the staff and

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Speaker 1: another resource for Sean. And and like you said, it's

638
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: smart for him to have a resource that he's willing

639
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: to listen to. Yeah, And that's the beauty of our relationship.

640
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: You know, it goes back to nineteen ninety nine when

641
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: we both joined the staff of Andy Reid in Philadelphia.

642
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: So that trust that's necessary to really be able to

643
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: have those hard conversations is they're based on our history

644
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: together and that helps a lot. And it's fortunate to

645
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: have a head coach who I mean, he wants to

646
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: do us best for the bills. He's not caught up

647
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: in who gets to credit or whatever. So we can

648
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: we can talk, we can talk about things and uh,

649
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: and it goes well, let's see, how much do you

650
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: think and we were talking about you before he came

651
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: out in this promotion. How much is your temperament player?

652
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: How much of it? How much of a role does

653
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: that play in the promotion you got, and really the

654
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: way you've conducted your career, the fact that you do

655
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: seem unflappable, if you don't let your ego get in

656
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: the way of decisions being made, You think that's an

657
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: important factor. I think that's pretty important. I mean we

658
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: live in and Steve, you know this as a former

659
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: player and being around coaches and players. It's an ego

660
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: drimming league in a lot of ways, and for a

661
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: lot of reasons because of the money that's involved. And

662
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: so you have to be willing to sometimes not see

663
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: yourself in the headline, but still feel good about yourself

664
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: and be confident in who you are as a person.

665
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: And so I think that does matter. And for me,

666
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: it's about our team and what we're trying to get accomplished,

667
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: not necessarily seeing my name, you know, in the newspapers

668
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: or on these on ESPN or whatever, you know. And

669
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: one of the things about is you gotta and I

670
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: know this is a player. You gotta be who you

671
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: are the moment you're a coach coordinator who tries to

672
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: act like a coach coordinate and not just be you. You

673
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: You don't trust yourself and who you are as a person.

674
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: The players kind of see through and it kind of

675
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: undermines your ability to be your credibility. And so if

676
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: you're an unflappable guy, you need to be an unflappable coach.

677
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: Or if you're a hot and fire you gotta be that,

678
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: you know. But you gotta just trust that who you

679
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: are is going to be good enough and put people

680
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 1: around you like you and Sean Mesh and Brian Dable

681
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: and the rest of the guys on this list today

682
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: who got promoted. Yeah, no doubt. I mean that's that

683
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: is the key, what you just said, be yourself because

684
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: if you're anything other than that, those players see right

685
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: through you. So a great example the head coach that

686
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: I play for, Mike Dicka, fiery, tough, hard, nosed guy,

687
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: and people often ask me, what did you learn from

688
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: Coach Sticka, And I learned a lot. But I can't

689
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: try to emolate him or be like him. I have

690
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: to really be who I am, but take some of

691
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: the things I learned from him and being under him.

692
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: But if I try to be Mike Dicka and that's

693
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: really not my personality, the players are going to see

694
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: through that and they're going to tune me out over time. Hey, coach,

695
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: do you you were a head coach of the Vikings

696
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Would you still like to

697
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: be a head coach somewhere in the NFL? Do you

698
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: think sometimes in the future, Yeah, I think, you know,

699
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: if that opportunity were to present itself, you know, I'd

700
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: definitely be interested. I don't know if it'll happen at

701
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: this stage in my career, but but yeah, I mean

702
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: it's it's something that goes through my mind at times.

703
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: For sure. What was surprised What would be the surprising

704
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: thing for most fans if they got inside one of

705
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: the head coaching interviews, Because we are here, it's not

706
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: like a twenty minute interview where you're trying to get

707
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: an entry level position at a mid management corporation. This

708
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 1: is like a nine hour, two day, sixteen hour morning

709
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: tonight conversation with every level of the organization. Really right,

710
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: tell us what's what are some of the surprising things

711
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: that people may not know about that process? Um there,

712
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: you mentioned it. There, they're many things as you're covering.

713
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: An interview is more than a thirty minute interview. As

714
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: you mentioned, I mean, you're talking about everything that has

715
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: involved in the football organization from A to Z, not

716
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: just on the field, but how are you going to

717
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: handle discipline? You know, what are you gonna do when

718
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: a player holds out? How you how do you build

719
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: a team from your perspective, Is it through the drafts

720
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: it through free agency? Talk us through that and just

721
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 1: you know, how you handle your staff, I mean putting

722
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: together your staff, going through that, identifying what you think

723
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: of the most important things with your staff. There's just

724
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: so much conversation and being in great detail about what

725
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: it looks like if you're the head coach of that

726
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: team and you know how you're going to connect with

727
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: your players, how are you going to change the culture

728
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: of the organization. Because usually when you come in an

729
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: interview for a job they're coming off a disappointing season

730
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: or a different take over super Bowl champion. No, that's

731
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: so so, so rare. So Yeah, usually you're dealing with

732
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: that part of it. How are you going to be

733
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: able to change the culture of the organization, And I

734
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: mean there are a lot of things that are covered

735
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: during that time. The coach want to ask you a

736
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: little bit about your staff. Jim Salgado gets a title change.

737
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: He's been working with defensive backs, but now he's going

738
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: to be the nickel defense coach. What does that mean?

739
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: What will he do? Yeah, Jimmy has done a great

740
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: job for us in his role both as a quality

741
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: control coach where he really helps to assimilate information for me,

742
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: whether it be scouting reports on the opponent, doing advance

743
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: in that regard, but also working with our nickelbacks. You

744
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: saw the development of Serran Neil this past season working

745
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 1: in that role, Dean Marlowe in that role. We even

746
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: had Kevin Johnson that role at times as tarn was

747
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 1: out with an injury. And Jimmy has done a great

748
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: job specifically working with the nickelbacks and the success that

749
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: we've had with our nickels. A lot of that credit

750
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: goes to Jimmy, And this is Sean's way and our

751
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: defensive staffs way or being able to recognize his contribution

752
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: by you know, putting that title next to his name,

753
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: but it's he's done a terrific job for us. He

754
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: has a history as a defensive coach, coming from Preston

755
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: being a defensive coordinator and taking this role and then

756
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: embracing it and really doing a great job. Can you

757
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: use the ballbark what percent at the time last year

758
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: did you play Nichols. It's got to be more than

759
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: fifty percent. I would think, Oh yeah, with all the

760
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: three wats that we get, now you're you're in some

761
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: type of five defensive backs probably seven percent at a time,

762
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: which is the way our league is trending, you know,

763
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: as very little two back as you guys know. And

764
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: we talk about all the time about how hard and long,

765
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: how hard these guys work and long hours they put in,

766
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 1: they grind through film and they got all this stuff.

767
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: But when push comes to shove, a guy like Jimmy Salgado,

768
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't get this promotion unless the players respond yeah,

769
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: I mean he can have all the knowledge in the world,

770
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: he can work really hard. The staff might like him,

771
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: but when he gets down to where the rubber meets

772
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: the road, he's got to put it on the field.

773
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: His players got to respond to him as a person

774
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: as a coach and trust him enough to do what

775
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: he says. That's really the the crux of being a

776
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: great coach, and that's why guys get promoted is it's

777
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: not what they know or it's about how the guys

778
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: that are on the team respond. That's exactly right. I mean,

779
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: that's they pitot me of what a good coach is.

780
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: It's about my being able to be a good teacher.

781
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: It's not enough for me to have the head knowledge,

782
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: but can I teach it well enough where this player

783
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: can go out and execute as a summer Because if

784
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: it really does us no good that you're you're as

785
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: a coach. You're a very smart guy, Steve. You really

786
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: can spit out the terminology, but your players, right, yeah,

787
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: but the players aren't performing, so that really doesn't help us.

788
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: So the fact that you have to be able to

789
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: find out how these guys learn, because some guys learned differently.

790
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: Some are visual learners, some guys learning through hearing, some

791
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: guys learning through the walkthroughs, and as a coach, you've

792
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: got to connect the dots, and Jim has done a

793
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: great job of being able to do that, and that's

794
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: one of the reasons our knickelback position has been so well. Yeah,

795
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: and one of the other parts about this that interests

796
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: me is the creative side of it, because you know,

797
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: I go, I grew up, and there's really I got

798
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: the feeling there was no creativity at all because we

799
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: do the same drills and junior highs we did in

800
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 1: high school and high school to college and college now

801
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: with the different personnel packages in the pros, you've got

802
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: these guys doing you've got to come up with ways

803
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: that give them the mindset of, oh, this is what

804
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: this defense and this is what I'm going to see.

805
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: You can create your own drills, you create your own

806
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: defensive schemes, you create ways to look on the field.

807
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: You it's really the it's got to be the fun

808
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: part of being a coach where you get your guys

809
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: in a room say guys, let's come up with a

810
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: way to teach our guys this. Yeah, right it is.

811
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: And with technology being so advanced now compared to when

812
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: you and I play, I mean, you can really be

813
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: creative and how you teach and how you get it.

814
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: There was only two ways to learn. It was either

815
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: in the on a piece of paper, yeah, or on

816
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: the field. Right now, you've got now you've got visual age,

817
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: you've got you know, then you've got you know, overheads

818
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: in the film and you know the film was better.

819
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: You know all of that and iPads cut ups we sent,

820
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: We sent iPads with information come up. There was no

821
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: such thing as cut ups. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's

822
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: far different than when you and I played. And it's

823
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: it's better for coaches, it's better for the players. I mean,

824
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: there's really no downtime now in our league. So there

825
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: are guys now who have their iPads. They're looking through

826
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: our games and going through it and preparing for this

827
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: offseason as well. Hey, coach, another change to your defensive staff.

828
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, Eric Washington signed down this Yes,

829
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: their defensive line coach brings a ton of experience, including

830
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: experience as a defensive coordinator. What can you tell us

831
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: about them and what you're gonna do with the delone? Well,

832
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: Eric has been a very successful defensive line coach in

833
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: our league. Now for a while. I had a lot

834
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: of success in Chicago and then in Carolina when Sean

835
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: was defensive coordinator there on the Ron Rivera. He did

836
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: a terrific job there, was promoted to a defensive coordinator.

837
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 1: So for our guys to get a chance to work

838
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: with a guy like Eric Washington, who's had so much success,

839
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, he's had a number of players that have

840
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: gone through the Pro Bowl and had success. And now

841
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: that we get a chance to work with a guy

842
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: who's worked with Julius Pepper Comer short who ends up

843
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl. All of our guys are going

844
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: to benefit from Eric and his experience on our staff.

845
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: Now you also have a new assistant, Jacques sees there.

846
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: He was a good player. Yes, you got both. Got

847
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: the defensive line coach and his assistant are both all

848
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: brand new. That's and you're coming into a group where

849
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: whether Jordan Phillips or Shack Lawson comes back, you don't know,

850
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: it might have some a lot of new faces in

851
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: that comes up with a lot of question marks in

852
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: that group. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's the uncertainty and

853
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: that's the benefits in the negatives of free agency as well.

854
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't really know at this point who

855
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: you're going to have next season to work with, but

856
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: I do know this, whoever Eric gets a hand gets

857
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: a chance to put his hands on it and work with,

858
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a chance to have career years because

859
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: he's been that type of coach where he's been really

860
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: guy who's transformed guy's careers now. Would love to have

861
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: Shack back, would love to have Jordan back, But I

862
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: know that the Trent Murphis of the world, along with

863
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: some of other players, are young darre Johnson. They're gonna

864
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: bet Oliver at Oliver. They're gonna benefit from having a

865
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: guy like Eric to really groom them and coach him. Coach,

866
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: what do you do for an Encore? You've had the

867
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: second best defense, third best defense last two years. There's

868
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: only one place left to go, and that's number one.

869
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: I guess right that would be That would be nice

870
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: to see happened. What would be even nicer if we

871
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: can just advance through the playoffs and get to the

872
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: big one. That would be really really nice, right, absolutely again,

873
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: and it really has been fun. You've been really the

874
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: engine that has driven the team's success of the last

875
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 1: three years and even when Tyrod Taylor was the quarterback.

876
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: Three years ago, we made the surprising run and we

877
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: all watched get into the playoffs together. Last year is

878
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: Josh developed. You know, you guys kind of kind of

879
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: held them in games and gave it chances to win

880
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: it out This year when they took a step forward

881
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: offensive le even though they didn't get become a juggernaut,

882
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: the Marching of Eric got good enough to win ten games,

883
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: got to the playoffs, and and it's it's got to

884
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: be fun to be in a bill. And I remember

885
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: way back, you know, the dark ages when I was

886
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: here and we kind of came up, went from being

887
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: a bad football team to being good. That was kind

888
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,959
Speaker 1: of most of the fun. Oh yeah, right, Exceeding expectations. Yeah,

889
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: I mean you could see it in training camp last

890
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: year and even an off season that we were going

891
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: to be a much improved team. And we're getting there,

892
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, we're getting a little bit closer.

893
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: And obviously this off season is important because of free

894
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: agency alone with the draft. You want to keep adding

895
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: because every year is a new year in our league.

896
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: You can't rest on your laurels. And but we're closing

897
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: the gap. You know, we're getting getting a little bit better,

898
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: and we just got to handle some things this off

899
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: season to take another step. The last thing I was

900
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: going to ask you to we've we've talked about this

901
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: this offseason. Last year he had like Week one, he

902
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: had nine new starters offensively, right, So not so this

903
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: year probably and probably not so defensively, even though you

904
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 1: may have a couple. It's a different offseason for this club.

905
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be a much much more difficult

906
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: roster to make. Yeah, so your job as a coordinating

907
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: your evaluation new players, it's it's different, Yeah, which is good.

908
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: That's a good problem to have. You know, it's comparing

909
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: our first year to where we were really pruning the

910
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: roster first year, whereas now, as you mentioned, we got

911
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: a lot of returning starters and we had that last

912
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: year on defense as well. Now we're gonna have on

913
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: our offense. So it'll create better competition, which is what

914
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: you want when you go into training camp and even

915
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: in the off season program, which should make us a

916
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: better team. And if you can have quality competition and

917
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: then end up with quality depth, so when that injury

918
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: bug does hit, it doesn't just wipe you out like

919
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: a ken in the month of December. We should be

920
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: a better team for it. But you want competition at

921
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: every position if possible. Coach, really happy for you, Thanks

922
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: you coming in. You have a great offseason. Thank you guys,

923
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: Thank you very see Frasier, the Bills defensive coordinator and

924
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: now as of today, assistant that coach of the Buffalo Bill.

925
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: Steve and I coming back with more One Bills Live

926
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio on Archard Park. This is Buffalo

927
00:44:49,760 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. I'll go back One Deal's Live, John Murphy

928
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 1: seat Cancer. That was great. I love coach Frasier. I'm

929
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: telling you, he's one of the smartest, not just smart

930
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: stone intelligence, one of the best people you can ever

931
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: deal with in this building. He really is. I think, yeah,

932
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: the way he thinks. I like the way he thinks.

933
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: I like the way he thinks about the game. I

934
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: like the way he thinks about that stuff. I was

935
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: gonna I was gonna bring this up. I figured he

936
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: might bristle a little bit. But he's talking about not

937
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: having an ego and not caring what's written or said

938
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: about you, and I thought you and I and this

939
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: is not gonna go over. Well, I'm sure you and

940
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: I a hallway conversation at the combine last week with

941
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: the guy who I like. I like, Greg Williams, but

942
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: it was clear in our minute and a half conversation

943
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: that he's all about ego and all about what you

944
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: think of his defense and how they played. You know

945
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: what I mean. Coach Frasier doesn't care about that stuff.

946
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: You could not find two more diametrically opposed defensive coordinators

947
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: than Coach Frasier and Greig Williams. There are there are

948
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: different ways to be successful in every industry and both way.

949
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: All those ways have pluses and minuses AND's up. But

950
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: you can do it. And I'll tell you there's no

951
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: it's no accident. When a guy becomes a defensive coordinator

952
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator in the National Football League. They earn it.

953
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: And whatever, however, what kind of person they are, whatever

954
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: you got and like he said, and like like I said,

955
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: and he enerated, they got to be who they are.

956
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: There's no you got every coordinator as an individual, every

957
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 1: they do it, all do it their own way. Wade

958
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: Phillips does it his way. Greg Williams does it his way.

959
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier does it his way. The guy in Baltimore,

960
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: Wink Martindale does it his way. You know, you gotta

961
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: be yourself. And there's for every defensive coordinator out there,

962
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: there's a different way to do it. But they're all

963
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: impressive in their own way unless the guy we've got

964
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo um typifies that. Yeah, you're right, and

965
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: there's no way for Greg Williams to be as successful

966
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 1: as he is with out being that guy, that kind

967
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: of ego driven guy. You gotta do it your way. Yeah,

968
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: it's how he's building and I think his defenses sometimes

969
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: reflect that, and and UH and I think Leslie Frasier's

970
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: defenses reflect that as well about himself. So it's it's

971
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: it's interesting, it's a great dynamic to think about and

972
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: talk about, but it's really I think it's really true.

973
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: It holds true. Yea great to talk with Coach Frasier.

974
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: We come back run to talk to UH Andrew Brandt

975
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: about the business of the NFL, in particular the new

976
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: CBA that's coming up next. Stick Around One Bill's Live

977
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: presented by Kalada Health on Buffalo Bill's Radio opers Down

978
00:47:48,760 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: to down Time. Well back, I went number two one

979
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, brought you by Kalina Health, John Murphy, Steve

980
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: Tasker on the line with us, a frequent guest. Who's

981
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: the best guest we can get for this stuff? The

982
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: new CBA, We've got weekly conomness for the MMQB. Host

983
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: of the Business of Sports podcast, director of the More

984
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: I had center for sports law at Villanova. Andrew Brant

985
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: on the line with us. Hello Andrew, John Murphy, and

986
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker up here in Buffalo. Thanks coming on. Yeah,

987
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: always good to be with you guys. I know you've

988
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: been busy. In fact, you've got a new line to

989
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: your resume. You are an official agent for Vyner's Sports.

990
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: You're gonna represent players, Andrew, Is that what's going on?

991
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: Sort of? You know Gary Vayner Chuck, A lot of

992
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 1: people know him as Gary v the super entrepreneur started

993
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: a new sports company and ask me to help out.

994
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 1: So he's got some young agents sign up some players.

995
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: I was at the combine with these guys, had seven

996
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: guys participating in the combine and just sort of being

997
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: a senior voice that they can rely on. So yeah,

998
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 1: I'm sort of back on the players side. Sort of good.

999
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 1: Good for you. Yes, they come into a league, the CBA,

1000
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna come into the rule what rules may be

1001
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: a new CBA for the young guys come and in

1002
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: what And you wrote an extensive article for SI about

1003
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: the new CBA, and you're and I kind of agree

1004
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: with you that the players do have more leverage than

1005
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: they may realize in the CBA. But this is not

1006
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: one bad deal for them, is it. Yeah, Steve a

1007
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: lot to unpack here. Basically, I'll start with this. We've

1008
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: heard for twelve years before the last CBA from player

1009
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: leadership and players of course, that no way, no how,

1010
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: no way in God's green nerves, that we will play

1011
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: more than sixteen games. Yet here we are, so okay,

1012
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: it's a business deal. We'll sacrifice our bodies in the

1013
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: name of money. But is it enough money? And in

1014
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: my opinion, it's not for that incredibly precious inventory of

1015
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 1: more games for the owners. It obviously serves the owners,

1016
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: it serves the networks. Do they really serve the players? Yeah,

1017
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: their revenue split fifty fifty ten years ago, the owners

1018
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: imposed their will got down to fifty three forty seven

1019
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: their way. Now they're giving back half of what they

1020
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: took forty seven to forty eight point five percent by

1021
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 1: next year, assuming they play seventeen games, which they will,

1022
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: and then it stops, you know, then there's nine years

1023
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 1: of no increase in the revenue split. There's a lot

1024
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: of other things in this deal that I think are

1025
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: maybe as good as the pass deal and maybe worse,

1026
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: although there's some things better. So I just don't think

1027
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: for that incredible precious inventory of more games, more aware,

1028
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: and tear twelve percent more on your body, they're getting enough,

1029
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, And you point this out, but I wonder

1030
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: it seems like somebody, a very smart person at the

1031
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: league level, at the owner's level, recognize that the majority

1032
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: of players, nineteen hundred some players, most of them are

1033
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: core players who are just getting their career started, and

1034
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: the league kind of taken advantage of that. Would you

1035
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: say that's true? And I negotiated contracts or ten years

1036
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: that did the same thing, and I'm not proud to

1037
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: admit it. You know, you try to offer early money

1038
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,959
Speaker 1: to get players entice to take long term deals, which

1039
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: gives management incredible cost certainty and control of cost. That's

1040
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: what they do with individual players, and of course what

1041
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: they're doing with collective players one hundred thousand increase on

1042
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,479
Speaker 1: the minimums. Players are looking at the deal and saying,

1043
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: you know, if I take the deal, I get one

1044
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: hundred thousand more this year. If I don't, I don't,

1045
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: you know, And that is something to sell and something

1046
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: that's going to be attractive to the rank and file.

1047
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: I do think this, and Steve you can comment on this.

1048
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: I think there's some narrative out there which I think

1049
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: is frankly unfair and even insulting that stars first, rank

1050
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: and file, that rank and file is like, yeah, we

1051
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: just want that early money. We're jumping in. It's a

1052
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: great deal, and they don't even you know, people sort

1053
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: of think, oh, yeah, they need money so bad they're

1054
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: going to take the deal without sort of analyzing it,

1055
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: weighing it, is it good for their future, all those things.

1056
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: I just am a little upset of this narrative of

1057
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: stars verst rank and file. There's a rank and file

1058
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: on the executive committee which is against the deal, right,

1059
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: and that's really and there's no escaping it either no

1060
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: matter how good the deal gets or what have you.

1061
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: There has to be and there always is in the media,

1062
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: in social media, in the player's side and the owner's side.

1063
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: Somebody who's gonna say we won, they lost, or they

1064
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: won and we lost. It's gonna it's almost a no win.

1065
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: There's no matter what happens, the players are gonna look

1066
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: like they got taken to the cleaners by the billionaire

1067
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: owners and vice versa. And so you kind of have

1068
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: to be ready for that no matter how you vote. Correct. Yeah,

1069
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: and again you know me, Well, I'm not a hot

1070
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: take guy. I'm not a winner's losers guy. I'm not

1071
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: a good or bad deal I use the word. It's

1072
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: a little bit salutin, but it's it's inequitable. And listen,

1073
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: this is not just me, you know, despite a lot

1074
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: of me promoting it for the NFL. You know, I

1075
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: just mentioned the Executive Committee, which I think the leadership

1076
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: of the union reports too, not vice versa. They are

1077
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: against this deal seven to four. The player reps have

1078
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: a lukewarm endorsement in my opinion of seventeen to fourteen

1079
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: with one abstention, and now it goes to the nineteen

1080
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: hundred players. But to me, that's a hell of a

1081
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: way to walk into an eleven year deal, which brings

1082
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: up my real problem. With the deal. It's too long,

1083
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: and why not have an opt out like the owners

1084
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: got in order to get the deal they currently have.

1085
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: They opted out of the previous one that would reassess

1086
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: the economics of TV, the economics of gambling, the economics

1087
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: of data, everything that's going to be changing drastically over

1088
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: the next couple of years. The owners clearly want that

1089
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: long deal, right, The longer the better. At eleven year

1090
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: deal and as you said, things will change dramatically over

1091
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: those eleven years. It changes every other year in terms

1092
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: of rights for television and the streaming rights and everything.

1093
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: You who would expect that that won't continue? Right? The

1094
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: players have leverage here that I don't think they all

1095
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: realize now. I know it's hard to say no to

1096
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: owners that are offering a lot of early money. I

1097
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 1: know that. I know that. But here's the thing. They

1098
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: want to make TV deals now like now, like yesterday,

1099
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: And they need two things for these TV deals, for

1100
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: the TV deals to jump in seventeen games and labor piece.

1101
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: And who holds the key to both of them the players.

1102
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: So you know they're scare tactics out there. You guys know,

1103
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: the election and the coronavirus and better get in now,

1104
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: you know, and come on right, I mean yeah, I

1105
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: mean do we really think no matter how bad the

1106
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: coronavirus gets, people aren't going to watch football. I mean,

1107
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: come on on, right, come on, So what do you think?

1108
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: What do you think are the probabilities? It seems to

1109
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: me it has a little bit of momentum where the

1110
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: players are just gonna say, you know, I don't want

1111
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: to sit through a workstopics and have to deal with

1112
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: all this combative atmosphere in and around the league. I

1113
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: just want to sign the deal and get back to

1114
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: getting ready to play. I mean there's some momentum that

1115
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: says that maybe just what the players do well people

1116
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: have to know, and I'm sure they do, but they

1117
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: don't think about it. This is not March of twenty

1118
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: twenty one. We're in March of twenty twenty, right. If

1119
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: they turn it down, zero happens different zero right, zero.

1120
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 1: So this idea that if the players turn it down,

1121
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: the owners are going to close their books, walk out

1122
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: in a huff, and not speak to them for at

1123
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: least a year. Good luck. I mean, this is that

1124
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: fear that's out there. I don't get it. The owners

1125
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: need the players. Now, maybe there's a handful of owners

1126
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: that are so full of Gusto and Bravado that they're like,

1127
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: screw them, But come on, I think the cooler heads

1128
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: will prevail. Will they get a better deal if they wait?

1129
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: I think so because I think the leverage increases as

1130
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 1: the owners want more more to get into those TV deals.

1131
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 1: And this idea again that well, people are watching election

1132
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: coverage and we're not going to offer a good deal

1133
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: because we're going to be lower ratings. I mean, the

1134
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: election is going to be over. So I just think

1135
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: people have to be real about this. So Andrew, to

1136
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: summarize your objections to this proposed CBA are a the

1137
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: length of the deal and the share of revenues is

1138
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: in it. Yeah, and there are a lot of deal

1139
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: points that we don't have time to get to. But

1140
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: you know, minimum spending goes up nominally. I think that

1141
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 1: was a real deficiency of the last deal. I think

1142
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: teams are not being held accountable. They bring over tens

1143
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: of millions of cap room every year. It's unused franchise tag,

1144
00:56:55,360 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: transition tag not even touched. You know that harder finds

1145
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 1: more fines for holdouts lose accrued seasons for holdouts. Now

1146
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 1: there's some soft gives, the economic the i'm sorry, health

1147
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 1: and safety less practice time. You know, that's all started

1148
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: last CBA. But those are my mind, soft gives by

1149
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. They're not economic gives. They're just okay, you

1150
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: can stay away. The coaches are upset, but who cares

1151
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: about them, right exactly? Yeah, Yeah, the owners shouldn't care

1152
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: about any of the stuff that happens in the off

1153
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: season because it's a level playing field. Once they start playing,

1154
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: nobody cares. Yeah, and I agree with you, that's a

1155
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: that's an easy gift for the owners. It may seem

1156
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: like a big victory for the players, but what do

1157
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: the owners care. They're not paying these guys at that

1158
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 1: time of the year anyway. Yeah, and the optics are good.

1159
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: We're in an age of concussions, in age of health

1160
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: and safety, and the owners can say, yeah, we're you know,

1161
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: they're basically off from January to June. So you know,

1162
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: those are things. And again, Damorris Smith, they did a

1163
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: good job increasing you know, one of the other things.

1164
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't the owners even give an increase in the

1165
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: revenue split in twenty twenty. There's nothing. It doesn't go

1166
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: up till twenty twenty one. If you're gonna make a deal,

1167
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you increase it in the deal the year

1168
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: of the deal. To me, that's just like the owners

1169
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: are kind of, you know, just uffing and puffing take

1170
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: the deal. Why would you not increase it to forty

1171
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: seven point five at least in this year? I mean,

1172
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: that's just another head scratcher. Yep, Andrew, it's a great

1173
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: post on Sports Illustrated dot com. We thank you for

1174
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: joining us, and good luck with the new venture Vinger

1175
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: Sports that's coming on today. Thanks guys. I have a

1176
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: lot of jobs, so I don't have to have a

1177
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: real one. Thanks Andrew. Andrew Brandt. The MMQB Weekly column

1178
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: was one of his jobs. He joined Vaner Sports as

1179
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: executive vice president. He hosts the Business of Sports podcast,

1180
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: director of the Moread Center for Sports Law in Villanova Is.

1181
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: Most recent posts went up yesterday on Sports Illustrated dot

1182
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: com The inequities of the proposed CBA and look he

1183
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: outlined them and it's it's mostly money that he sees,

1184
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: Steve and the length of the deal. Somebody I think

1185
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: it was Peter King said yesterday it's an eleven year

1186
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: ten or eleven year deal, and the owners had a

1187
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: right in the last deal to opt out. There's no

1188
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: opt out provision here for players. That would be a

1189
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: problem if you're look and it's hard and I think,

1190
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: what again. I mentioned this to Andrew, I mentioned it

1191
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: earlier this week. You're making a deal for the benefits.

1192
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: The owners have said, let's make a deal that's attractive

1193
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: to the first, second and third year players who are

1194
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: making winning a minimum wage. That's what they've done. That's

1195
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: why it'll probably pass. But it's not a great deal

1196
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: for the unborn NFL players. So I don't know if

1197
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: it's not a great deal, but it's certainly not a

1198
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: home run, no right. And for me trying to stay

1199
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: keep myself out of this as a former player. The

1200
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: closer they get, the closer the players get to a

1201
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: fifty fifty split with the owners, I think is the

1202
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: more the most little thing you can do, and that

1203
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: they're a long way from, well, a couple two and

1204
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: a half percentages points away even at the top end

1205
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: of this deal, or a percentage and a half away

1206
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: from the at the top end of this deal. If

1207
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: they get to forty eight and a half percent split.

1208
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: But I can you can see it coming from a

1209
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: million miles away that you know, in twenty thirty or

1210
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: twenty whatever, the end of this deal is, they're gonna

1211
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: be asking for an eighteenth game, and there comes the

1212
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: fifty percent down the road. You know, maybe they'll give

1213
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: you another percentage and a half. Then when the percentages

1214
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: are three times more than they are now, that are

1215
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: worth more than they are now. It just it seems

1216
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: really and it's easy for us. And here's the problem.

1217
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: It's easy for you and me to sit here and say, long,

1218
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: take this big generalized long look and view at this

1219
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: generational look at what this CBA could mean, since how

1220
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: it's a decade long. It's not so easy. When you're

1221
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 1: a young player coming out of college. You just want

1222
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: to play, right, I get it, I get it. I know.

1223
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: And you've been waiting for your whole life to get

1224
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: to get into a league where you can change your

1225
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: life with the money you could earn with your skill

1226
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: as a football player. And all of a sudden, no,

1227
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: not this year, you know, all the sudden, you go

1228
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: to the combine, you go to the draft, you get

1229
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: drafted by these teams, and you get drafted and all

1230
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden, no, you're not gonna play this year

1231
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: because we're in a lockout. Man. That stinks, And that's

1232
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: hard to get yourself to say, well, what are you

1233
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: talking about. I've been working my tail off to get

1234
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: into the league the way it used to be, right,

1235
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: let alone where you want it to be. That's a

1236
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: hard sell. Yeah, And let me be clear about this.

1237
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: I don't have a dog in this fight. I want

1238
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: football to continue. I want games this fall, next fall.

1239
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: I want to continue, and this thing will get settled.

1240
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: It'll get settled probably in the next week or two.

1241
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: It'll get settled for ten or eleven years, and that's great,

1242
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: but it's just a little odd. Look. I grew up

1243
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: in an era ste where every three years there was

1244
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: a lockout or a strike right in the NFL in

1245
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: baseball too, and you kind of anticipated that because and

1246
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: there's millions of dollars at stake and the stakes are

1247
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: very high, and you got used to people arguing over

1248
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: those millions of dollars. And that's not happening here, which

1249
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: is great, it's great, but it's a little bit alarming,

1250
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: not alarming. It's you get your attention, like, Wow, they're

1251
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: gonna make an eleven year deal. Players are gonna go

1252
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: for that. And Andrew kind of listed some of the

1253
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: stuff they're uh, kind of relinquishing to get this deal done.

1254
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: The players are right surprising. It is a little surprising,

1255
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: and and it's it's so complicated, and the problem is

1256
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: on the side. The owners have a little bit easier

1257
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: time consolidating their opinions. It was only thirty two of them, right,

1258
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: there's nineteen. And they have a committee who's into this,

1259
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,439
Speaker 1: and they hire the top guys, you know, financial guys

1260
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: and lawyers and the labor negotiators as well are on

1261
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: the payroll. The players elect their guys, Eric Winston, who's

1262
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: a sharp guy. De Marie Smith, who's a sharp guy.

1263
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: Eric's a former player. But they have nineteen hundred thirty

1264
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: two guys on the the players committee that answered to

1265
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: nineteen hundred people. It's a different dynamic and it's hard

1266
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: to get momentum swung one way or the other. Particularly,

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Speaker 1: you never get it unanimously. But you can see the

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Speaker 1: difficulty that De Marie Smith and Eric Winson have in

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Speaker 1: in moving the union in the direction they want it

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Speaker 1: really as opposed to the owner. I'm really eager to

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Speaker 1: see how the vote comes out. I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to pass based on what I've heard. Producer Jay Harris

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Speaker 1: reached out to Pat de Marco, the Bills player rep,

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Speaker 1: today and he's on vacation that available today, but we'll

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Speaker 1: try to get him on just to get a sense.

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Speaker 1: They had a long yesterday. Pat de Marco, Lorenzo Alexaminer,

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Speaker 1: former Bills linebacker and a current member of the NFLPA

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Speaker 1: Executive Council, had a long conference call with many, and

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Speaker 1: I mean many Bills players. I'd be interested to know

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Speaker 1: what the sentiment was among them and what they said.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've seen it. The high profile players, JJ

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Speaker 1: Watt and others you know are saying this. Richard Sherman

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Speaker 1: are saying this not a fair deal, and others are like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a first year player making minimum NFL salary.

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Speaker 1: This this deal's fine for me. I mean to see

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Speaker 1: how the Bills vote. One and if somebody pointed out,

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Speaker 1: was it Lorenzo, I can't remember. I can't remember what

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Speaker 1: it was. Maybe it was Pat de Marco, I guess

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Speaker 1: on the morning show said you know, we got a

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Speaker 1: good locker room. They do. They have a very good

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Speaker 1: locker room, very content locker room. Good guys. They might

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Speaker 1: just go for it just to maintain the piece, right

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Speaker 1: they might. They might just say, right, let's take it

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Speaker 1: and move on, let's start getting ready to play. And

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Speaker 1: that's fine, that's good. Yeah. I mean, everybody's got their

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Speaker 1: own agenda. And just think about it. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: sitting there as a young kid coming out, and you

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Speaker 1: get it. If you're making a half million bucks a

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Speaker 1: year as a base salary and they're gonna up it

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Speaker 1: by that's a twenty percent raise just by saying yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just by accepting it. That's that's what do you care?

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Speaker 1: If the deals ten years long? Right, that's hard to do, man,

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Speaker 1: It's hard not to say, yeah, okay, yeah, I get it,

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Speaker 1: I get it. Hey. Our topic of the day deals

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Speaker 1: with the coaching changes made by the Bills today, all

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Speaker 1: promotions from within. Leslie Fraser is now defensive coordinator, assistant

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Speaker 1: head coach Mark Lubitt, who's up to assistant wide receivers

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Speaker 1: coach and also game management coach. Lubeck was an offensive assistant.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Salgado becomes the nickel defense coach. He was the

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Speaker 1: defensive assistant dealing with defensive backs. Shake Turney, who was

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Speaker 1: a offensive assistant, is now the assistant quarterbacks coach, and

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Speaker 1: Ryan Wendell, who was an assistant on offense, becomes assistant

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Speaker 1: offensive line coach. The Bills one of three teams in

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Speaker 1: the NFL that have not changed head coacher coordinator for

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Speaker 1: the last two years. That's say two years. It is Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: New Orleans and who was the third, oh San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: Three teams have had changes at head coacher coordinator in

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Speaker 1: the last two years. The Bills are one who is not.

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Speaker 1: How important is continuity on the coaching staff to the

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Speaker 1: Bills success? Give us a call. That's our Twitter poll,

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Speaker 1: three hundred eighty votes in so far you say, hey, dummy,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot. Eight percent say it's somewhat important, a

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Speaker 1: little important, two percent say not at all. Don't care

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Speaker 1: about coaching continuity? What do you think? Give us a

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Speaker 1: call eight oh three oh five fifty toll free outside

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Speaker 1: Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 1: Give us a call to discuss coaching continuity. How much

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Speaker 1: does it matter? How much is it responsible for the

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Speaker 1: Bills success. I will take your calls as soon as

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Speaker 1: we can eight oh three five fifty and outside Buffalo

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty Twitter

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Speaker 1: sheet tweet sheet brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems,

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Speaker 1: the official movers of the Buffalo Bills. From the tweet

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Speaker 1: sheet from Nick coaching, continuity is important when you have

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Speaker 1: a young group, core group of players that you're trying

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Speaker 1: to develop. It's good for players like Josh to keep

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Speaker 1: going back into that same system each year so they

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Speaker 1: can focus on their own growth instead of learning a

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Speaker 1: new system each year. You're absolutely right, well stated. It's

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Speaker 1: funny the Bills were among the not you know, when

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Speaker 1: you put them out and you line them all up there.

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Speaker 1: They were not last year among the younger teams in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. They are among the older teams. Frank Gore,

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo a Lectander had a lot to do with that.

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Speaker 1: Stephen Hauske. The core group is young, The core group

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Speaker 1: is young, and the important group of players most point

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Speaker 1: group of players are young two and three years into

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Speaker 1: their careers. And I think you're absolutely right, Nick, that's

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Speaker 1: the part that and player development has played a big role.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've seen it. We've talked about it. We

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Speaker 1: see Shack Lawson get better every year. We see players

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Speaker 1: all over the roster get better from one year to

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Speaker 1: the next. That's because coaches are here teaching their system

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Speaker 1: and teaching these players how to get better. Leslie Fraser

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Speaker 1: mentioned the exact exact thing we've seen Harrison Phillips, who

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Speaker 1: had his last year kind of interrupted short circuited by

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Speaker 1: an injury. He was a much better player in his

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Speaker 1: second year and the offseason after his first year than

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Speaker 1: he was in his first year. So I think that's

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Speaker 1: a good thing. The continuity helps with getting players better

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Speaker 1: and player development. It'll be interesting to see how Ed

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Speaker 1: Oliver comes back to training camp, how he if he

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Speaker 1: takes a step in the offseason. It'll be interesting to

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Speaker 1: see if other young players like Dawson Knox and Devin

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Speaker 1: Singletary take a step forward. It'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: if the running back, the rugby running back Wade Yeah

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Speaker 1: Christian Ways, if he takes a step forward and get

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Speaker 1: on the field. All these young players and developing players,

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Speaker 1: If if Duke Williams can continue to progress, if Robert

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Speaker 1: Foster can can maybe explore the potential we saw on

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Speaker 1: him two years ago. All this stuff is going to

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Speaker 1: be fun. But this has been a stretch of time

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Speaker 1: where the young players on this franchise over the last

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Speaker 1: three years have shown great improvement every year they've been

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Speaker 1: under this group and the coordinators and the stability around them,

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Speaker 1: I think has a lot to do with it. Here's

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Speaker 1: a tweet from Brian in answer to our question how

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Speaker 1: important is coaching continuity to the Bill's success? Brian says,

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Speaker 1: you know, we've been banking on it. I would incentivize

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Speaker 1: Dable so he won't want to leave. Brian Dable offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator Courts had a head coaching interview, right. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: the finalist for the Cleveland It's all Josh knows. I

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Speaker 1: love this regime from the front office down. Never remember

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Speaker 1: a better organization, which shows up directly in the culture,

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Speaker 1: player development and everything has a process that's high praise

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Speaker 1: from Brian. Never remember a better organization. It's interesting too,

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Speaker 1: because we were at the draft, the draft, the combined

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Speaker 1: last week, and you know, people see us. We've got

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Speaker 1: our backdrop, and we talked to people and we talked

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Speaker 1: to you know, we're you know, Dallas guys are right

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Speaker 1: behind us. The Chicago guys are there, the Cincinnati guy.

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Speaker 1: You know, they all have radio shows and stuff, and

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Speaker 1: they're all there, and then you'll get to you have

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Speaker 1: conversations with them. You have conversations with football people from

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Speaker 1: other teams and media people from all over the country.

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Speaker 1: And because of Sean McDermott, Brandon Bean, Brian Dable, Leslie

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Speaker 1: Frazier and the way the team has performed and the

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Speaker 1: direction that the team has displayed, you get a feeling

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Speaker 1: of a real, a real high level of respect that

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Speaker 1: this Bill's organization has around the league and the way

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Speaker 1: they've done their business over the last three years, not

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Speaker 1: only in the success that they've had and get into

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Speaker 1: the playoffs two of the three years, but also in

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Speaker 1: the discipline they shown in free agency and in signing

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Speaker 1: guys and getting guys to come back and that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing, and enticing guys in the free agent market

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Speaker 1: they've really and their ability to keep guys healthy. I

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Speaker 1: guess last year would be something that goes into that

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Speaker 1: mix as well. It seems like an organization now under

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Speaker 1: McDermott that is really hitting on all cylinders and they're

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Speaker 1: starting to get a lot of respect around the league

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Speaker 1: from people who are going at What do you guys

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Speaker 1: do there to keep your guys? You know, you had

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Speaker 1: like fewest ever man man games lost to starters to injury,

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Speaker 1: and you got you know, this young quarterback and you

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Speaker 1: got you know says like us some respect right at

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Speaker 1: the combine last week. How do you guess get so

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Speaker 1: many good guests? I don't know right right, but it does,

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Speaker 1: it extends, and I think ten wins has a lot

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Speaker 1: to do with that, by the way. Yeah, and having

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Speaker 1: a good season well and stacking good things on top

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Speaker 1: of each other. You got the six and ten season

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Speaker 1: sandwich between nine and seven and a playoff berth and

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Speaker 1: then the ten and six team that played really well,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that you've got a defense that nobody

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Speaker 1: any part of. I think it all points to, like

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Speaker 1: we said, altering during this last season. I made this

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Speaker 1: they're tough out and it's not going and it doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem to be poised to take a step back. It

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Speaker 1: seems to be poised to maintain. In the advance. People

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Speaker 1: aren't looking at Buffalo going well, they had a nice run.

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Speaker 1: Like think about Chicago twelve wins. It's like, I don't

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Speaker 1: know about their quarterback. You know, I don't we get

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01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 1: some feedback about Josh that's not all that positive. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody ready to like like Mitch

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Speaker 1: Trubisky where they're like, guys, are they gonna trade for

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton? You know, you don't get here much of that,

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Speaker 1: And we'll see how long that lasts. But for right now,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty cool to be there. A couple of tweets

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Speaker 1: calling to a question or Twitter question in particular, Noel

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Speaker 1: Harris says, really, after all the coaches we've been through,

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Speaker 1: this is really a question. Duh, You're right, it is

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Speaker 1: a question, and respond and say it is important. And

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Speaker 1: Kim Friend Frampan says coaching changes are hugely important, as

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Speaker 1: our pass has shown us a revolving door rarely leads

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Speaker 1: to long term success. You're right, You're both right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a question. It's today's question, so we look for

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Speaker 1: a response. Give us a call. Eight three five fifty

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. Leslie Frazier stays on as defense coordinator,

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Speaker 1: gets their promotion to assistant head coach. Your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: that and overall what the coaching continuity means to the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills success, not whether it matters, obviously we know

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Speaker 1: it matters, but why what does it do for the bills?

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Speaker 1: Give us a call eight three five fifty toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty one.

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Speaker 1: from Andrew Brant about the new CBA. We've heard about

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Speaker 1: proposed CBA, and we had Leslie Fraser in studio with us.

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Speaker 1: What do you think with the news today that Fraser

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Speaker 1: stays on as defensive coordinator, adds the title of assistant

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Speaker 1: head coach. What does coaching continuity do for the bills?

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Speaker 1: We'll take your calls eight oh three five fifty and

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Speaker 1: total three one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: The phone lines wide open, I mean really wide open

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Speaker 1: right now, so we've got plenty of time for calls.

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Speaker 1: Everybrath does every ninety percent Twitter. Let me just say

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Speaker 1: this one is not a top ten Twitter poll. I

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Speaker 1: know it's important. I'm looking for people to tell me

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Speaker 1: what it does for the totally distancing myself from the

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Speaker 1: thought process. Good team player. I know, I'm I'm throwing

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Speaker 1: totally throwing Jay Harris under the bus, but no question.

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01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked about it at length about and

1476
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: last year coming into this year, where we Gosh, I

1477
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: hope Josh can take a step forward, and you know,

1478
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 1: and and now he did take that step forward. And

1479
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: then after a sputtering start where he turned it over

1480
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 1: a few too many times in that first month of

1481
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 1: the season, or actually first five or six weeks of

1482
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: the season, you know, he didn't throw it pick for

1483
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: three games, you know, and oh longer strength than that day. Yeah,

1484
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 1: it was. It was really cool and it was fun,

1485
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: and he did take that step forward. The team did

1486
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: win ten games, they did go to the playoffs. Now,

1487
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: you know, like we've been talking about with the coaching

1488
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 1: staff and the and the talent evaluators in this draft

1489
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: and how good this roster is going to be a

1490
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 1: different offseason for the team. Can Josh take another step?

1491
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: He needs to, you know, he needs to. Can I

1492
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 1: say this about Leslie Frasier, He was here with this

1493
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 1: twelve thirty today, he did not in my mind, he

1494
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: did not get this promotion because the Bills were number

1495
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 1: three in defense this year or this past year, in

1496
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: number two two years ago. I don't think that's why

1497
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 1: I got the promotion. But the numbers are impressive. Look

1498
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: at where the Bills ranked in the twenty nineteen Bills

1499
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: defensive ranking second and points allowed last year, given up

1500
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 1: sixteen points a game. They were third in yards per

1501
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,839
Speaker 1: game allowed two d ninety eight point three past defense.

1502
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: They were fourth first downs allowed, they were six third

1503
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: down convert versions allowed. They were seventh, given up thirty

1504
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: six percent third downs. Rushing yards per game allowed, they

1505
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: were tenth sacks they were tenth. All those numbers are great,

1506
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: and you know what, I don't think that's why he's

1507
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: been named assistant head coach. I think it's his temperament, Steve.

1508
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: I think it's uh, he is a leader. You know,

1509
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 1: he is a He is a leader on this team.

1510
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 1: He is a sir get head coach. Now he's assistant

1511
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: head coach. His temperament, his attention to detail, the way

1512
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: he handles setbacks. We talked about how he handled having

1513
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: the play defensive play calling stripped away from him early

1514
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 1: on in twenty eighteen. He handled it perfectly. I think

1515
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: all those things is why he is now assistant head coach.

1516
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: I think it is very little to do with the

1517
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: success the Bill's defense has had the last couple of years,

1518
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: I really do. I think it's about how he handles

1519
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 1: success and struggles, how he handles players, how he articulates

1520
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 1: his goals. And I've said it before, his temperament is

1521
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 1: even killed temperament. I think that that's why Leslie Fraser's

1522
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 1: assistant head coach with I don't think it's only because

1523
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 1: the defense is good. I think it's because of the

1524
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: kind of guy he is and the contributions he makes

1525
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 1: to the staff, to Sean McDermott. But you know how

1526
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 1: capable he is. I mean, this is a guy who's

1527
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: a head coach. I mean, so he you know, he's

1528
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: an outstanding guy. And I think that's the reason he

1529
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: gets this promotion is because he does more than just

1530
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 1: coordinate the defense. He alluded to it a little bit

1531
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 1: while we and and rightfully so um and foot and

1532
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: this is one way for them to acknowledge it and

1533
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: recognize him for it. And uh, you know, we don't

1534
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: get to find out if he actually gets a little

1535
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 1: bump and pay. But I hope yeah, right, Um, it

1536
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 1: really speaks. It reeks, it not reeks it. It speaks

1537
01:16:55,200 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 1: to guys who are outperforming their expectations. And you not

1538
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 1: only need that on the field with the salary capping

1539
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: and stuff, and you need guys that you find that

1540
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: are better than you thought they were, but you also

1541
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 1: needed on your coaching staff. Take a few phone calls here,

1542
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: Cooper in Clarence. Hello, Cooper, you're on the air with us. Hey, guys,

1543
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if you would be surprised if McDermot

1544
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: and Bean use our only first round pick for what offense.

1545
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: I don't think that will ever happen. But I mean,

1546
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 1: I know they picked Allen, but we also had the

1547
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: Edmons pick, so I'm convinced ever will. But we also

1548
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: had well Cody forber was a second rounder. True. Yeah,

1549
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 1: what do you think, Murph, I think they would use

1550
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: a I don't think Sean is locked into defense. I

1551
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: really don't. I think that's the point you're trying to make. Yes,

1552
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: they had two first rounders. They used one on offense,

1553
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: one on defense. Couple of years ago. Last year's was defense.

1554
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: Two years ago or twenty seventeen was a defensive pick,

1555
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 1: but I think they're more. I think that, look, he

1556
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 1: has an affinity for defense. He is a he has

1557
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: a familiarity with what they're doing on defense. But I

1558
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: also think he is an overall familiarity with what his

1559
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: team needs, and I think he would see that they

1560
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: need a dynamic playmaker on offense. And I would not

1561
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: be surprised at all if they use the first pick

1562
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 1: gun on offense. I think, I think, to what your

1563
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 1: point is the caller's point. I don't think they're set

1564
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 1: on one side of the ball or the other. I

1565
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 1: don't I know that they've picked a couple of defenders

1566
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: like Ed Oliver and Tremaine Edmonds up there high and

1567
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 1: of course Josh, But I don't think it comes down to, hey,

1568
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: we need we're gonna pick a defensive player. I think

1569
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: it has to do with that draft, that moment, who

1570
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 1: fell to them, how the free agency went. I think

1571
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 1: they get what helps the team win the most, whether

1572
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,480
Speaker 1: it's offense or defense. I don't think there's any inclination,

1573
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 1: a preconceived inclination that they're gonna go defense a lot

1574
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: in the high rounds of the draft or not despite

1575
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: the trend that you might sense in the last two

1576
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 1: or three or the three drafts that McDermott has run

1577
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: so far, I don't think it cites an unwillingness to

1578
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 1: draft an offensive player at all. Take another phone call here,

1579
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 1: let's go to Niagara Falls, Mario and Niagara Falls. Hello, Hey, guys,

1580
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on Love the Show. I just

1581
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about continuity and how important it is

1582
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: UM for UM. You know McDermott always emphasizes, you know,

1583
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: culture and UM, it's one of those it's one of

1584
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: those things that I think the locker room values, um O,

1585
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: our fan base values. And it really, UM, it was

1586
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: really other than on the field this year that the

1587
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: team played together and they actually, UM, if you look

1588
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 1: at their roster, they they exceeded expectations. I know they

1589
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: exceeded my expectations. And UM, A lot of it has

1590
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 1: to do with continuity and UM I will say this,

1591
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: We're going into a season, it's a brutal schedule and

1592
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: we may actually lose more games this year. And if

1593
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: we if we keep our core, our coaching staff, our

1594
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 1: our quarterback, our offensive and defensive line, if we keep

1595
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: that and not jump the gun far with the coach.

1596
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 1: If if we have, if we only win seven or

1597
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: eight games, like a lot of other franchises do, Um,

1598
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: we could find ourselves in the championship game, the FC

1599
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 1: Championship game the following year. So you're giving up on

1600
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not getting up on

1601
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. All I'm saying it could be. It could

1602
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: be a challenging year for the Bills because they have

1603
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 1: they're going to be playing the best teams in the NFL,

1604
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: and um, they could. Shouldn't the Bills be ready to

1605
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 1: play the best teams in the NFL? You know, I

1606
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: think I think they are, but um, you know, UM,

1607
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't. I think you have some teams that UM

1608
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: are really quick to you know, fire the head coach

1609
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:22,719
Speaker 1: if they if they win, and then one year, um

1610
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 1: and and things don't go um you know the way

1611
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: that they thought they were supposed to go the following year.

1612
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 1: And Uh, I just believe Brandon bean has has has

1613
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 1: the building something and I believe that they will take

1614
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 1: a step forward this season. UM. I believe that they

1615
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,919
Speaker 1: will do well in free agency and in the draft. UM.

1616
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: I I can see you know, nine ten wins this year.

1617
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that continuity, UM really UM is very

1618
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 1: important because twenty twenty one may be a completely different year,

1619
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: and if we have all everybody in place, UM, we

1620
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: could we could be a fourteen thirteen. Yeah, I'll take

1621
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: your crack of that. Go ahead. So you knocked yourself out,

1622
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: Not really, He's right, It comes right. We could be.

1623
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 1: We could be a better football team and lose more

1624
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: games in twenty twenty than we were in twenty nineteen.

1625
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: You could be a better team this coming year than

1626
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 1: you were this last year and lose more games because

1627
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 1: of your schedule. But the expectations are that you're gonna

1628
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 1: improve and you're gonna be a better team than you were,

1629
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: And there's no guarantees what anybody else is gonna do.

1630
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 1: It's hard to go back to the super Bowl when

1631
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:44,839
Speaker 1: you lose one. It's hard to go back Seattle. These teams, Seattle,

1632
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 1: San Francisco put together really good teams last year. It's

1633
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 1: hard to maintain. Denver seems to be a team that

1634
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 1: may be on the rise. Las Vegas in a new stadium,

1635
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: may get some bump from that. UM. You go to Nashville,

1636
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: a playoff team that has two key players that they've

1637
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 1: got to bring back, either their quarterback and they're running back.

1638
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 1: Then of course you've got New England, Miami and the

1639
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: Jets once again like you always do. That's the road schedule.

1640
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: So and then you've at home, You've got Seattle in

1641
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: Kansas City, the defending world champions. It's hard to maintain

1642
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: in this league. The Bills seem to be still on

1643
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 1: the rise, and it's going to be interesting to see

1644
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 1: which of the teams we're talking about, like Kansas City,

1645
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: San Francisco, Seattle, Tennessee, are those going to be teams

1646
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 1: that can continue to maintain their level of play because

1647
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: we see it in Buffalo it's hard to do. Are

1648
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: they going to be able to do it? I think

1649
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo can. I think they're situated. They're building something that

1650
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 1: is sustainable. Kansas City, Seattle has been a winner for

1651
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 1: a long time. San Francisco just started getting there, you know,

1652
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: they were they got the number one pick of the

1653
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 1: draft or a top pick of the draft, and then

1654
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 1: they went to the Super Bowl. Can they maintain that.

1655
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,839
Speaker 1: There's a lot of question marks. So, yeah, a schedule

1656
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: that last year would have been really tough, but this

1657
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: year it remains to be seen. Yeah, and let me

1658
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 1: just say I reject Mario's almost surrendering twenty twenty. Looking

1659
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: ahead to twenty twenty one, the Bills are moving into

1660
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 1: the better teams in the league. Now, Yeah, they should

1661
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 1: be able to compete. It's a tough schedule, it's tougher

1662
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: than last year. They should be able to compete against

1663
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: the best teams in the league. Right, they're a playoff team.

1664
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: They should be able to compete. I don't give him

1665
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: a pass in twenty twenty, right, are you giving him

1666
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 1: a pass year not either? No, No, they're gonna They're

1667
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 1: gonna continue to be a tough team to beat. We're

1668
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be. All the schedules too tough. We'll win

1669
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: next year. Really, really, you don't want to do that?

1670
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 1: Do you want to do that? Oh? Of course not yet. No.

1671
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 1: I agree, they could win fewer games, they might struggle

1672
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 1: with this tougher, tougher schedule. But you don't give him

1673
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 1: a pass and say, wow, we'll win next year. The

1674
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 1: schedule is too tough for us. All right, come on,

1675
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 1: let's go to a John in Buffalo. Hello John, you're

1676
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 1: on the air. Hey guys, I didn't call about to

1677
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 1: talk about the schedule, but just real quickly, the Dunvision

1678
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: isn't played by Yeah, that's exciting. Yeah, forget New England

1679
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 1: has to play the same schedule. So to the yachts

1680
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 1: on Miami. I almost forgot about that. No seriously calling

1681
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 1: about the continuity thing. And as far as you know,

1682
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: we can say just cliches like how contin continuity is

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01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: great for teams and winning in a stet but as

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01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 1: for the pills specifically, this defense has really balled out

1685
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 1: for Leslie Frazier. And it's so exciting because every year

1686
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: when they have those maybe five to ten different head

1687
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 1: coach firings around the league, at the end of the

1688
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 1: regular season, you're like, oh, here we go, Like we

1689
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: got the hot defensive coordinator, and Baltimore had the hot

1690
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, and this and that, and if you're a

1691
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 1: fan of these teams, you're just worried. You're worried, sick

1692
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 1: that these are the kind of guys that are gonna

1693
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 1: be eyeballs for these vacancies. While this year we got

1694
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 1: lucky there weren't a lot of vacancies. Frazier didn't get

1695
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 1: snatched up by anybody. And I am just so excited

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01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: that he, uh you know, gets to stick around with

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01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 1: this team, and like I said, he's already proven enough

1698
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 1: to meet and then in the recent years, uh you

1699
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 1: know what he can do with these young players on defense.

1700
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 1: So to me, I think as far as for those specifically,

1701
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 1: this is just a very exciting, uh you know move

1702
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: for the team and a very underrated one. I don't know,

1703
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: you know why more people aren't just pumped up and

1704
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: excited beyond belief to keep this guy. But that's just me.

1705
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 1: I hear you, John, And I think you're right, Steve.

1706
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 1: I think he's right. And by the way, if they

1707
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,759
Speaker 1: have another ten win season, successful season, Dave all Frasier,

1708
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 1: maybe some other guys to see you. Yeah right, that's

1709
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 1: it goes. And you're gonna get a couple of guys

1710
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 1: from behind him, like a Ken Dorsey's gonna start getting

1711
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: looked at as an offensive coordinator. You know, he's gonna

1712
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 1: go from a quarterback coach with a young quarterback help

1713
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 1: him develop, and he's gonna say, hey, this guy's a

1714
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 1: quarterback whisperer. We're gonna get him, you know, and he's

1715
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:51,560
Speaker 1: gonna move to you know, he's gonna be in Cincinnati,

1716
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 1: or he's gonna be in Arizona as a quarterback coach

1717
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: or an offensive coordinator. So it'll happen, you know, will,

1718
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 1: particularly if they put together a good season. And you're right,

1719
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no denying it. The Bills have the

1720
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 1: roughest schedule coming up, or not a rough schedule coming

1721
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 1: up on paper. We don't know how any of this

1722
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. Pittsburgh went away last year. They you

1723
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: would think they'd come back. But you play Pittsburgh, Seattle,

1724
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 1: the Rams, the Chiefs, the Niners, the Titans. Yeah, the

1725
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 1: only person, the only one that they get away from

1726
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 1: is well, no, they get Seattle. I mean, good grief.

1727
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you're playing that's a gauntlet. If you'd have

1728
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 1: gone played this schedule this last year, that's a rough schedule,

1729
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 1: but it's not the same schedule this next year. Some

1730
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 1: of those teams are gonna go away. Some of those

1731
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 1: teams are gonna get better, But the Bills are gonna

1732
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: not stay static either. This is gonna be a team

1733
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 1: that continues to develop too. It's it's gonna we're gonna

1734
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 1: see some stars in Buffalo and we're gonna see some

1735
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 1: stars on the road. There's some great destinations for Bills

1736
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 1: fans to go out there. Tennessee, Arizona, San Francisco, Denver's

1737
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 1: a rate highly underrated city, and of course Vegas. I

1738
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 1: mean you got a lot of fun road games. I've

1739
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 1: never been to regular Vegas. I have never been. I've

1740
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 1: noticed people to look at you like you've got to

1741
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 1: Antenna if you say you haven't been to Vegas. Right,

1742
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: I've never had the desire to go to Vegas. I've

1743
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: never been there. No, I've never been there. But there's

1744
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 1: gonna be some great road trips for Bills fans this

1745
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: this coming year. Got a breakcare. We're coming back One

1746
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,719
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalata Hell from the Seneca Studio,

1747
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 1: Seneca Resorts and Casino. Nothing comes close. Welcome back One

1748
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 1: Mills Live, John Murphy, Steve Cansker. Take another phone call here,

1749
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: Jim and Buffalo on the line. Jim, you got something

1750
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 1: to say about Leslie Frasier coming back coaching continuity. What

1751
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 1: are you thinking? Oh, I think I'm fantastic. Excuse me, yeah,

1752
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:51,679
Speaker 1: I think if you look at it as a business,

1753
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, whish it is like, look look at a

1754
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 1: famous rustaurant on Elmwood. There for years a mainstain, mainstay

1755
01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 1: and Elmwood and they and they sold a place. The

1756
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 1: guy changed everything. Now it's it's it's dying out. You

1757
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. What ye what's the restaurant? What

1758
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 1: are you? Which one you've heard you? I don't know

1759
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 1: if you can see it on the air. I was gun, well,

1760
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 1: let's let's Panels. Oh okay, I mean they've got great

1761
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 1: rustion and Panels sold it. Now it's just, you know,

1762
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 1: you start to monkey with that continuity and see what happened.

1763
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,759
Speaker 1: I mean, no, I think we're in the right direction.

1764
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 1: Lest stay there. As far as the schedule goals, I

1765
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 1: think it's still We're still got our ten games no

1766
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 1: matter what. Okay, okay, all right, but yeah, I agree

1767
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,600
Speaker 1: with you. I mean, Jim, that's the that's the consensus.

1768
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: Nine out of the ten people we've asked have said, yeah,

1769
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 1: continuity is really important. And here's the thing. I think

1770
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 1: it's important. It's been great that we got out of this,

1771
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, the dungeon, and now that we can come

1772
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 1: out into the courtyard and you know, kind of sit

1773
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: in a lawn chair for a minute and win ten games.

1774
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 1: But here's the problem. But I like that, very good

1775
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, you gotta you gotta keep it up.

1776
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 1: And that's what is fun about this. Now. Not only

1777
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 1: did they get to this win ten games last year.

1778
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 1: Now they've got eighty million bucks or eighty eight million

1779
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 1: or eighty two million bucks in cap money. They've got

1780
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: some core players that they've got to bring back that

1781
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 1: you know there it seems like yeahs and they just

1782
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 1: got the same coordinator. They got the same offensive coordinator,

1783
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. They seem strong and ready, you know, they

1784
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 1: seem on the plan. They've got you know, nine picks

1785
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: in this draft coming up. So it's really fun to

1786
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 1: be here sitting like, hey, they could take another step forward,

1787
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 1: you know. So it's kind of I told this to

1788
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier. I was on a bad team that got good,

1789
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:38,679
Speaker 1: and getting good is sometimes more fun than being good.

1790
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 1: It's harder to stay good than it is here. You're right,

1791
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 1: let's get the chair off there. I agree, it's not

1792
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 1: as fun to stay good as it is to get good. Yes, sir,

1793
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 1: that struck me. And this is not an original thought.

1794
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,640
Speaker 1: But last week at the combine and even for the

1795
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. You look around the NFL and

1796
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 1: everybody's waiting for the quarterbacks to start moving. Brady, you know,

1797
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 1: the first domino to fall, holding everything up. And here

1798
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 1: the Bills quarterback, bereft for almost two decades, seventeen years

1799
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 1: about a playoff spot. They have their quarterback. You know

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01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 1: how refreshing that is. They have their quarterback. I'm not

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01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,839
Speaker 1: saying he's the answer to everything. I'm saying he's probably

1802
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 1: going to be the franchise quarterback and he's this close

1803
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 1: from being that now. And I just think it's so

1804
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 1: good to have that at least solved for the Bills,

1805
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:23,679
Speaker 1: right they don't. If the Bills did not have Josh Allen,

1806
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 1: we'd be worried about where's Brady going, Where's Philip Rivers

1807
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 1: gonna go? What about Jamis Winston? Is he a fit here?

1808
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 1: What about Andy Dalton? Maybe we should take Andy Dalton?

1809
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 1: We would be consumed by I go back to what

1810
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 1: Tim de Meetroff said to me in an interview with

1811
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:39,839
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl a couple of years ago in Houston,

1812
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 1: when I talked about chasing a quarterback, this is free

1813
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, and it was simple, and I think it's right.

1814
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 1: He's a general manager of the Falcons, who he had

1815
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 1: his team in the Super Bowl. He said, if you

1816
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:53,720
Speaker 1: don't have a franchise, franchise quarterback, you are consumed consumed

1817
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 1: with the search for the franchise quarterback. He's right, we

1818
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 1: didn't have Josh Allen. That's all we talk about. It's

1819
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 1: true and well right now and I don't know, Josh

1820
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 1: isn't there yet, and we think he's gonna get there,

1821
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: but he has shown enough progress. Says like, you know,

1822
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 1: we're not getting anybody else right, right, even if he

1823
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:13,759
Speaker 1: turns out to be not just good enough or whatever

1824
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 1: whatever negative you want to throw at him, where he

1825
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 1: turns out, you want to get somebody else. And we

1826
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 1: ain't there yet. We're like, yeah, this is our guy.

1827
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 1: So that's fun to be in that spot. And even

1828
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 1: yesterday Peter King suggesting that case Keenan would be a

1829
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 1: fit here as a backup, I'm thinking, why what are

1830
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 1: they gonna do? Or people who say the Bill should

1831
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 1: draft a rookie quarterback and develop him for what? Develop

1832
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 1: him so someone else can take him? I mean, what

1833
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 1: are we talking about? The development is centered on Josh

1834
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 1: Allen and there's more to come and he needs more development.

1835
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:46,719
Speaker 1: But that's where their focus is, not developing another rookie.

1836
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:50,679
Speaker 1: I don't think right now, I agree, the trick now

1837
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 1: is to is to not Here's the thing. For a

1838
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: long time, we were we gotta get this better player.

1839
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 1: We gotta these better players. We gotta get better players.

1840
01:32:58,479 --> 01:32:59,560
Speaker 1: And here we gotta get a bunch of them. We

1841
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,679
Speaker 1: gotta get better defense. We're gonna pass Rushi. We're gonna

1842
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:04,679
Speaker 1: get down the list, right, Gotta get a quarterback, gotta

1843
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 1: get you know, yetta, get all this stuff. Well now

1844
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well we need to get a little

1845
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 1: better here and a little better there, and we need

1846
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 1: to maybe you know, this guy needs to play a

1847
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 1: little better. But he's got it. You know. It's a

1848
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:18,719
Speaker 1: much different mindset. We don't need to get better players.

1849
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 1: We just need our players to play better. And that's

1850
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 1: while it sounds kind of the same, it's very different.

1851
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 1: It's very different. Yeah, and it's it feels different. Hey,

1852
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 1: we got a break here, and when we return, Chris

1853
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 1: Brown Bills Inside from Buffalo Bills dot Com will join us.

1854
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 1: We'll talk about keeping Leslie Frasier around and making him

1855
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 1: assistant head coach, and some of these other coaching movies.

1856
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the Bills and the combine in general.

1857
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 1: Brownie's coming up, Chris brown When we return, One Bill's

1858
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 1: Live presented by a Lot of Health from the Seneca

1859
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 1: Studio in Archard Park, and this is Buffalo Bills Radio

1860
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 1: Balo Billso Network Sports an update from One Bill's Life.

1861
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 1: The Bills have made some changes on their coaching s have.

1862
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 1: Leslie Fraser, longtime defensive coordinator, remains defensive coordinator. He's also

1863
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 1: been named assistant head coach to head coach Sean McDermott.

1864
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 1: Leslie Fraser says, my role here goes beyond just being

1865
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. Also involved today, Mark Lubick coach from

1866
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: offensive assistant to assistant wide receivers coach and game management coach.

1867
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 1: Jimmy Salgatta, who's been a defensive assistant for a couple

1868
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 1: of years here, becomes a new nickel coach for the Bill.

1869
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 1: Shake Tierney, there's been an offensive quality control assistant, is

1870
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 1: now assistant quarterbacks coach. Ryan Wendell becomes assistant offensive line coach,

1871
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 1: and Bills have two assistant offensive line coach coaches now

1872
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 1: Bill's making those announcements earlier today. NFL rumors continue to

1873
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 1: swirl around Tom Brady two weeks away from the beginning

1874
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 1: of free agency, and the top prize is Brady, the

1875
01:34:56,000 --> 01:35:01,760
Speaker 1: Patriots quarterback. According to a report from Jeff Darlington, executives

1876
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 1: with eight different teams or at least monitoring Brady in

1877
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,639
Speaker 1: free agency, they have varying levels of interest in Brady.

1878
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 1: According to Darlington. Among those teams, Tennessee Titans, the Las

1879
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders, and Los Angeles Chargers have been viewed as

1880
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 1: potential Brady destinations. Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach Bersarians flat

1881
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:22,759
Speaker 1: out admitted his team would consider signing Tom Brady. Jacksonville

1882
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 1: Jaguars have agreed to trade quarterback A. J. Bouyer did

1883
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos for a fourth round pick in this

1884
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 1: year's NFL draft. Trade cannot be processed for another couple

1885
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 1: of weeks until the new league year. And two time

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowls safety Mike Adams announced his retirement today and

1887
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 1: in a sixteen year career, he turns thirty nine years

1888
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 1: old on March twenty fourth. Muhammad Sanua, the Patriots underwent

1889
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,839
Speaker 1: successful ankle surgery. It's hoped that he will be healthier

1890
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 1: this year. And he was last year traded from Atlanta,

1891
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 1: New England at the midway point of the seasons, and

1892
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:53,600
Speaker 1: who went for eighty one yards in a touchdown on

1893
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 1: ten catches in his second game with the Past and

1894
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,600
Speaker 1: had the ankle injury and the Savers return home with

1895
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 1: no points to show their four game Western road swing.

1896
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Speaker 1: They're home to conclude the Season's here with Pittsburgh tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: Puck drop set for seven o'clock. John Murphy, Steve Tasker

1898
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Speaker 1: coming to you live from the Seneca Studio in Orchard

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Speaker 1: Park with our number three the show. Excuse me, see sorry,

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Speaker 1: all right to hear you on the line with us

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Speaker 1: right now is Chris Brown, Bills insider from Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Hello, Chris, how are you doing today? Doing good?

1903
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Speaker 1: You guys? Good to be with you, great dammy on

1904
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Speaker 1: the show. Hey, you wrote about it. The moves of

1905
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 1: Bills announced today. Leslie Frasier becomes assistant head coach. You

1906
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 1: had a really good quote in the story you wrote

1907
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 1: from Frasier. He said something similar with us at twelve thirty.

1908
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 1: He says, this highlights that my role here goes beyond

1909
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 1: just being the defensive coordinator. I didn't know what he meant,

1910
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Speaker 1: and then he talked about him more here and I

1911
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 1: got a better understanding. But what is he saying there?

1912
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Speaker 1: What's he thinking? Well, I think it's clear that he

1913
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 1: does a lot more than just called defensive plays and

1914
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,879
Speaker 1: set up the defensive game planning for the week against

1915
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:58,840
Speaker 1: the give an opponent. I think there is a lot

1916
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 1: of converse station that goes back and forth between coach

1917
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 1: Frasier and coach McDermott, not only with how the defense

1918
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:09,160
Speaker 1: is going to get lined up for a given week,

1919
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 1: but in terms of running the team. We can't forget

1920
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 1: that Leslie Frasier is a former head coach in this league.

1921
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 1: And I think it was very important when Sean McDermot

1922
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 1: was putting the staff together and said as much in

1923
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 1: the comment in the story that we had on Buffalo

1924
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:26,679
Speaker 1: bills dot Com that he wanted an assistant that had

1925
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:30,919
Speaker 1: prior head coaching experience. And so I think Leslie Frasier,

1926
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 1: in every sense of the word or the phrase, is

1927
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 1: used as a sounding board by Sean McDermott, maybe more

1928
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 1: than any other coach on the staff. And as we

1929
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 1: you know, kind of plow through this offseason. You had

1930
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:44,719
Speaker 1: a chance to kind of watch or get a hold

1931
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:46,600
Speaker 1: of what happened at the combine. Tell us what you

1932
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 1: thought of Isaiah Simmons. Can he fit in the Bills defense?

1933
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:52,400
Speaker 1: You think, I mean, he's not going to be anywhere

1934
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 1: near the number twenty two pick. He's going to be

1935
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a top five pick. I don't think

1936
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 1: there's any doubt about it. He is what this league

1937
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 1: is looking for in every sense of the word. And

1938
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 1: what I mean by that is a guy that is

1939
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:12,879
Speaker 1: essentially a positionless player, a guy that can play anywhere

1940
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 1: in your back seven and and has the goods in

1941
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 1: every sense of the words. So I wouldn't even think

1942
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 1: about him. There's no chance the Bills even get a

1943
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:24,800
Speaker 1: sniff at him, right. The reason the reason I asked

1944
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:26,639
Speaker 1: that as the Bills have got these new a couple

1945
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 1: of new coaches, a completely new defensive line crew, Eric

1946
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 1: Washington and Jacques Says or so they've got some it's

1947
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 1: gonna be some new faces over there. There's gonna be

1948
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 1: some new things. And I asked Leslie Frasier early in

1949
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Speaker 1: the show about you know, how creative can you be

1950
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 1: and that's kind of the fun part about being a

1951
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 1: coach and what do you how do you see that

1952
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 1: and how much creativity is there on that defensive side

1953
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:52,720
Speaker 1: of the ball. I mean there are a number top,

1954
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 1: number two or three defense in the league anyway. Yeah,

1955
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't know that you need to change a whole lot. Obviously,

1956
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 1: some of that is going to be predicated on who

1957
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:05,679
Speaker 1: returns in terms of depending free agents with three pretty

1958
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 1: notable ones on that side of the ball in Jordan

1959
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 1: Philip Shack Lawson and Kevin Johnson, and then taking it

1960
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 1: a step further, who they're able to add. Do you

1961
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:17,559
Speaker 1: have a guy that can fill multiple roles? Are you

1962
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 1: able to sign some premier athlete in free agency or

1963
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 1: draft one who can fill and wear a lot of

1964
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 1: different hats. That's when you can get creative. But more

1965
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 1: and more in this league, we're seeing defensive coordinators looking

1966
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 1: for players who offer tremendous versatility so that they don't

1967
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 1: have to substitute as much and still be multiple when

1968
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:43,719
Speaker 1: that opponent goes tempo on offense. Where with Chris Brown

1969
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 1: Bills Inside or Buffalo Bills dot Com, he's live on

1970
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Speaker 1: the line with us right now, Chris. Let me get

1971
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 1: you back to Leslie Fraser for a second, and it's

1972
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 1: a discussion that Steve and I had gone back to

1973
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:55,639
Speaker 1: this morning. When the news came out twenty eighteen season,

1974
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 1: one and a half games into it, Sean McDermot took

1975
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 1: over defensive play call and I think coach Frasier's reaction

1976
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 1: to that has a lot to do with getting a

1977
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 1: promotion like this assistant head coach. He was not public

1978
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:09,679
Speaker 1: if he was upset about it. I'm sure he wasn't

1979
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 1: happy about it. He wasn't didn't say anything public about it.

1980
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 1: He kind of took one for the team there. It

1981
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 1: was a pretty drastic movie. Immediately got defensive play calling

1982
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 1: back the next week. I think that kind of temperament

1983
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:21,840
Speaker 1: by coach Frasier is one of the reasons why he's

1984
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:25,920
Speaker 1: so highly valued around here. Your thoughts on that, yeah,

1985
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 1: I mean I think he had a high value anyway.

1986
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 1: He's very tight with his players. The players have good

1987
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 1: natured ribbing with him. I even tweeted today because I

1988
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 1: asked him when I talked to him on the phone,

1989
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 1: I said, how much you know ribbing are you gonna

1990
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 1: get from your players? With this added title and he

1991
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 1: just ran down the list at guys that were gonna

1992
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 1: get him crap for having this extra time. Oh, assistant

1993
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:53,680
Speaker 1: head coach now too, okay, okay, well, all that kind

1994
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 1: of thing. So I think it just speaks to the

1995
01:40:56,360 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 1: relationship that he has built with his players. It's clear

1996
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 1: to me that they implicitly trust him with how he

1997
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 1: prepares them for game day, and so I don't know

1998
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 1: that that circumstance, even though he handled it in as

1999
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 1: professional a manner as you could, have, really changed how

2000
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:20,519
Speaker 1: people felt about him in the building. Quite frankly, guys,

2001
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: I think there's another element and another layer to this

2002
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 1: that we might be missing, and that's the fact that

2003
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 1: I think Sean McDermott's also trying to help expand Coach

2004
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 1: Frasier's casher, if you will, around the league, because this

2005
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 1: is a guy that I think in many cases, if

2006
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 1: you had somebody with a top five defense in back

2007
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 1: to back seasons, they'd be getting a little bit more

2008
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:51,600
Speaker 1: of a look as far as open head coaching jobs go,

2009
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 1: and Leslie Frasier this offseason didn't even get a sniff,

2010
01:41:55,880 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 1: And I think that there's something wrong with them, at

2011
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 1: least as I see it, and so I wouldn't be

2012
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:08,720
Speaker 1: surprised if part of this is coach McDermott trying to

2013
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 1: illuminate just how important Leslie Frasier is here and the

2014
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 1: tremendous impact that he does. We were talking about it

2015
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 1: and I asked him he's definitely interested in being a

2016
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:19,640
Speaker 1: head coach again. But I think it has something to

2017
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:23,120
Speaker 1: do with a lot of people making coaching decisions look

2018
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 1: for the hot, young offensive assistant as opposed to a

2019
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:29,760
Speaker 1: defensive assistant. And then, and it's hard to acknowledge this,

2020
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 1: but there's not a whole lot of African American black

2021
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:35,759
Speaker 1: head coaches in the league, and that number is shrunk

2022
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:38,599
Speaker 1: in the last few years. Yep, you're right about that,

2023
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, I think it's more a by product of

2024
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:44,559
Speaker 1: all of the attention that's on the quarterback in the

2025
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 1: NFL these days, and rightfully so. But the trickle down

2026
01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 1: effect from that is owners want to keep that side

2027
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 1: of the ball as intact as possible, and they fear

2028
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 1: in many cases that if I don't hire an offensive

2029
01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 1: head coach and I just have an offensive coordinator who

2030
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:04,639
Speaker 1: works really well with my quarterback and does really well,

2031
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 1: I run the risk of losing him because he's not

2032
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 1: my head coach, because he's gonna take a head coaching

2033
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:11,679
Speaker 1: job elsewhere. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the common

2034
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 1: thought of a lot of owners in this league, and

2035
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 1: it's unfortunately coming at the expense a very well qualified

2036
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators in this league. I agree with. We also

2037
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 1: have something that I found interesting that Mark Lubeck is

2038
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 1: going to be offensive quality controlled. I'm sorry that's not yeah,

2039
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:31,640
Speaker 1: and now he's going to be special projects and assistant

2040
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:36,679
Speaker 1: wide receiver coach game management. Game management is a position

2041
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:39,920
Speaker 1: that you don't hear much about, but Murph and I

2042
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:45,080
Speaker 1: were talking about it kind of a crucial, crucial spot

2043
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 1: and one that requires a lot of trust from the

2044
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 1: head coach. Yeah. I think there's there's certainly validity to that,

2045
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:53,639
Speaker 1: and I know coach Lubick has been a guy that's

2046
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:55,600
Speaker 1: been up in the coach's booth on game day for

2047
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, so I don't I'm not

2048
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 1: going to pretend to know the extent of any game

2049
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:05,760
Speaker 1: management responsibilities that he's had in the past, but knowing

2050
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 1: how thorough Coach McDermott is, I'm pretty confident that there's

2051
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:13,479
Speaker 1: been some element of coach Lubeck's job that's dealt with

2052
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 1: that in the past, because I don't think that's something

2053
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 1: that you just blindly hand someone as an assignment. So

2054
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,559
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if Coach Lubick the last couple

2055
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 1: of years has had some involvement in game management for

2056
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 1: this coaching staff that's down on the sidelines while he's

2057
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:31,639
Speaker 1: up in the booth. I think what he has done

2058
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:34,400
Speaker 1: has convinced them that he can handle more of that

2059
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:36,800
Speaker 1: going forward. I'll tell you what too, Chris. I think

2060
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:39,919
Speaker 1: a game management coach in the NFL, that's an important

2061
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:41,559
Speaker 1: piece you would want to have at a resume to

2062
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:43,680
Speaker 1: be a head coach in the NFL someday. I know

2063
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 1: coach Lubick's pretty young, probably got more pieces to fill,

2064
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 1: but that's I think become more important. Like how do

2065
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 1: you manage a game? I don't handle replay reviews. When

2066
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 1: do you throw the replay flag? The challenge flack. I

2067
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 1: think that's kind of an important part of a resume

2068
01:44:56,960 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 1: for a head coach. Yeah, I think it's a unique idol,

2069
01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 1: one that hadn't been seen all that often in the league,

2070
01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 1: but it wouldn't surprise me if we see it more

2071
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 1: and more. And yeah, I mean, I think you can

2072
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:10,719
Speaker 1: make the argument that it's a it's a valid stepping

2073
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 1: stone to bigger and better things in the coaching profession.

2074
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about free agency coming up in

2075
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks? Can I ask one more question

2076
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 1: about the coach Jimmy Salgado nickel coach. That's a new

2077
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:23,360
Speaker 1: classification for a coach or guys who are doing that job.

2078
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:25,599
Speaker 1: But the Bill's flat ault call him a nickel coach.

2079
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,320
Speaker 1: Coach Fraser says, we played nickel almost seventy percent of

2080
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 1: the time last year, right, and so, and I felt

2081
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 1: that I had to kind of help fans understand this

2082
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:38,799
Speaker 1: is not a new role for Salgado, it's a new title. Yeah,

2083
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 1: but coach Salgado was instrumental in the last year plus

2084
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:46,719
Speaker 1: in bringing defensive backs on this roster up to speed

2085
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 1: as to how to play the nickel position in the

2086
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 1: scope of this defense, most notably last season when he

2087
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 1: coached up Saran Neil, who was drafted largely as a safety,

2088
01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:00,160
Speaker 1: to come down and play that nickel corner role. And

2089
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 1: then Dean Marlowe as well and we saw them being

2090
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:06,759
Speaker 1: utilized when Terren Johnson was out injured. Those two guys

2091
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 1: were ready to face some of the bigger personnel groupings

2092
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 1: by the opposing offense to fill better against the run

2093
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 1: with bigger safeties playing that nickel corner role. But make

2094
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 1: no mistakes, Salgado was the guy who was chiefly in

2095
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 1: charge of having those guys game ready, and I think

2096
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 1: this is just a reflection of the job that he

2097
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:27,200
Speaker 1: did in that capacity. We have some new coaches to

2098
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:31,479
Speaker 1: Jacques Cesare and Eric Washington, the whole defensive line crews changing.

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01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:34,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna get new a new voice, but all of

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01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 1: them are going to get a new voice in the

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01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 1: defensive line room, no familiar faces. Plus you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: some some new players as well, forget the coaches. So

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01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of and I asked this

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01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:46,640
Speaker 1: about Leslie Fraser. There's a lot of question marks in

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01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 1: that room now as you enter the preseason and the

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01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 1: off season before twenty twenty. Yeah, I mean I talked

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01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 1: to coach Frasier about both of those new coaches, and

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01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 1: he's excited because I think he's expecting to be a

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Speaker 1: very smooth transition. We have to remember that coach Washington

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01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 1: coach for six years with Coach McDermott and Carolina. He

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01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 1: knows this scheme inside and out. So it's not like

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Speaker 1: you have a coach coming in the door that you

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01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:14,760
Speaker 1: have to teach the new scheme first before he can,

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Speaker 1: in turn teach the players or school the players up

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Speaker 1: on the nuances of what he wants from them. That's

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01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 1: already baked in. So I think what you have now

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01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,720
Speaker 1: is a defensive line coach who, although he is new,

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01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 1: can hit the ground running because he's got just as

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01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:32,960
Speaker 1: much knowledge of the scheme as the players who've been

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01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:35,080
Speaker 1: playing in at the last two or three years. And

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01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 1: then on top of that, this is a guy who's

2122
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 1: been a defensive coordinator in this league before. So I

2123
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 1: think for coach Washington, it's a huge thing for him

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01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 1: to be able to have. It's a huge thing for

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01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 1: coach Frasier to have on the staff somebody with that

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01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 1: level of expertise on the line. With Chris brown Dill's

2127
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:54,200
Speaker 1: Insider Buffalo Bills dot Com, John Murphy, Steve Tesker, and

2128
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 1: Steve View at a question about free agency for Brownie, Now,

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01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 1: I was just gonna give you just your general thoughts.

2130
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 1: First of all, where we get into the you know,

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01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:03,800
Speaker 1: the crux of the which position group you think the

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01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 1: Bills should pursue in free agency given what's available in

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01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, I mean it's kind of a mixed

2134
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 1: bag out there. The receiver class in terms of free

2135
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:17,360
Speaker 1: agents is very thin. There are some pass rushers that

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01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 1: I think you should get on a budget, So you know,

2137
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 1: for me, you may want to go that way, knowing

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01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 1: there is a sharp drop off in terms of defensive

2139
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:29,720
Speaker 1: end talent at the top of the draft anyway, so

2140
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:31,360
Speaker 1: you may want to look at that even though it's

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01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:33,679
Speaker 1: going to come at a high price tag. And then

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01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 1: I think cornerbacks at deep class in the draft, so

2143
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 1: you can probably scoop up talent there instead of paying

2144
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 1: top dollar in the free agent market as well. Yeah,

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01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 1: cornerback the Bills acknowledge last week, Brandon beanicknowledge last week

2146
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 1: at the combine. They've already had initial conversations with the

2147
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:53,679
Speaker 1: former Washington Redskin Carolina panther Josh Norman. Was he thirty

2148
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:55,400
Speaker 1: two years old? I don't know. Does he solve any

2149
01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:57,320
Speaker 1: of the problems they might have at cornerback? Chris, what

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01:48:57,320 --> 01:49:00,080
Speaker 1: do you think yeah. I mean, in this team in

2151
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 1: the three years under this regime, has a history of

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01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:09,040
Speaker 1: signing veteran corners on one year deals, whether it's EJ. Gaines,

2153
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 1: whether it's Philip Gaines, whether it's Kevin Johnson. This past offseason,

2154
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 1: they've made a habit of signing guys to short term

2155
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 1: deals to fill rolls for them. So it wouldn't surprise

2156
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:24,720
Speaker 1: me if they go down that road again. I just

2157
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 1: it's interesting because I don't think there's any secret that

2158
01:49:29,240 --> 01:49:31,919
Speaker 1: a lot of people around the league are of the opinion,

2159
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:34,960
Speaker 1: and I've sought some of these opinions personally, that Josh

2160
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 1: Norman isn't the cornerback that he was in Carolina when

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01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:41,800
Speaker 1: he was a franchise player before the tag was ultimately rescinded,

2162
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:46,120
Speaker 1: and then he signed with Washington. So where is he now?

2163
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 1: It's hard to say. But at the same time, this

2164
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:53,920
Speaker 1: is a defensive scheme that is largely predicated on zone concepts. Yes,

2165
01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:56,160
Speaker 1: they do play some man, but not all the time.

2166
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:59,839
Speaker 1: So does that mean that Josh Norman's value is higher

2167
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 1: and he can be a more effective player in this scheme?

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01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:07,879
Speaker 1: Perhaps he still can, And if so, maybe those initial

2169
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:10,880
Speaker 1: conversations turn into something more in the near future. It

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01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:12,599
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense because it's been the way

2171
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 1: they've operated in the past two off seasons, where they'll

2172
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:18,240
Speaker 1: bring some guys in they don't hit very many Grand

2173
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 1: Slam big contract home runs in free agency. Mitch Morris

2174
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 1: perhaps is one example. Star Lotulele would be another example.

2175
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:28,240
Speaker 1: But they also bring in a lot of guys on

2176
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:30,719
Speaker 1: deals that are like middle of the road free agents

2177
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:34,360
Speaker 1: at marquee positions, like the wide receivers Cole Beasley, John Brown,

2178
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:37,479
Speaker 1: not home run hitters, but certainly upgrades at that position.

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Speaker 1: What do you expect and what position group do you

2180
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:42,479
Speaker 1: expect them to bring in these guys on a three

2181
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:46,400
Speaker 1: year eighteen million dollar contract or four year twenty seven

2182
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 1: million dollar contract one of those guys that's not you know,

2183
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Speaker 1: maybe a seven or eight million dollar guy like a

2184
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 1: Trent Murphy or and not one of the sixteen million

2185
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 1: dollar running backs those kind of things, you know what

2186
01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, I mean, I think if they don't

2187
01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:04,240
Speaker 1: get shack loss in back in the fold defensive end,

2188
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 1: certainly I think zooms to the top of the list

2189
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:10,360
Speaker 1: for something like that, you know, not a sixteen seventeen

2190
01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:12,760
Speaker 1: million dollars a year player, but maybe a twenty a

2191
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:16,840
Speaker 1: twenty nine thirty year old pass rusher with some you know,

2192
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,880
Speaker 1: proven stock in the NFL. You know, somebody like a

2193
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:24,720
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn for example. Man, I'm just gonna bring his

2194
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:27,240
Speaker 1: name out, so you know, a player like that would

2195
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:29,320
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense. If you can't get shack

2196
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:33,160
Speaker 1: Back into the fold, they probably need a veteran linebacker

2197
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 1: because you know, if you can't get one of the

2198
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 1: premium linebackers in the first two days of the draft,

2199
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Speaker 1: and knowing Buffalo's positional needs, they may have to steer

2200
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:44,840
Speaker 1: clear of that. You're gonna have to look at the

2201
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Speaker 1: linebacker position too and try to find a free agent

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01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 1: that either a has something to prove or b is

2203
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 1: fiscally responsible in terms of the Bill's budgeting. With Chris

2204
01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 1: Brown a couple of minutes, if Chris Brown since at

2205
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 1: a Buffalo Bills dot com, Chris, you've been around here

2206
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 1: a long time, as if I, as as Steves for

2207
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 1: that matter, How refreshing is it that the Bills don't

2208
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 1: have to be a part of the frenzy free agent

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Speaker 1: quarterback market that's going to open up here in the

2210
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Speaker 1: next week. Or two. That's part one of the question.

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01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:18,320
Speaker 1: Part two is Tom Brady. Is people just waiting for

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01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 1: that first domino to fall right and then things are

2213
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:23,719
Speaker 1: gonna get crazy about quarterbacks? Do you agree? Yeah? I agree.

2214
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 1: He's the first domino. And it's interesting because the Boston

2215
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:29,120
Speaker 1: heralds about him in the last hour just reported that,

2216
01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:32,719
Speaker 1: you know, Brady and Belichick spoke by phone on Tuesday,

2217
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 1: and their report is that it did not go well.

2218
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:39,439
Speaker 1: I guess there are details pending on that because they're

2219
01:52:39,439 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 1: literally putting the story together as we speak. But yes,

2220
01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:48,919
Speaker 1: he is unquestionably the first domino. I'm of the opinion

2221
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:51,439
Speaker 1: that he's probably not going to be back there. I

2222
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 1: think he's looking for a new challenge, and I think

2223
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 1: as long as he was convinced that things weren't going

2224
01:52:57,280 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 1: to dramatically change so he could win this year and

2225
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 1: feel like he had the proper weapons around him. As

2226
01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:06,080
Speaker 1: we all know, he was very disenchanted with the young

2227
01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:09,880
Speaker 1: receivers who weren't assignment sound on the offensive side of

2228
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 1: the ball and fell to his play suffered because of it,

2229
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:14,640
Speaker 1: not that he'd ever say that publicly. I think he

2230
01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 1: was looking for assurances and if he's not gonna get

2231
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:18,720
Speaker 1: him from the Patriots. He's gonna look for a better

2232
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 1: situation one or two more years left us. Again, he's

2233
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 1: bumped out that he won twelve games last year. Yeah, well,

2234
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 1: my heart's not bleeding for him until I get it.

2235
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:37,760
Speaker 1: And it's obvious that he had. Uh. It wasn't like

2236
01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:40,800
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots didn't try to. They got They

2237
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 1: drafted nikkil Harry, who was a first round draft pick.

2238
01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:46,120
Speaker 1: They still had Edelman in there. They tried to get

2239
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 1: Josh Norman, he left. They tried to get Antonio Brown,

2240
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:52,439
Speaker 1: he left. They tried, they signed, Yeah, they traded first

2241
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 1: round Mohammed Sanu. They had a ton of guys they

2242
01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 1: gave a shot to trying to give him some weapons,

2243
01:53:57,560 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 1: and you know, they all flamed out. So it wasn't

2244
01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:02,160
Speaker 1: for lack of trying. That he was standing back there.

2245
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:04,640
Speaker 1: He's got to see a little bit of what they

2246
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:06,840
Speaker 1: tried to do to help him, but none of it

2247
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:09,479
Speaker 1: just panned out. They could have been just bad luck.

2248
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:13,040
Speaker 1: Well I think part of it was bad luck because

2249
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 1: they traded for Snow and then he had the bad

2250
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 1: ankle injury that he was playing through. But as we saw,

2251
01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:21,040
Speaker 1: he had ankle surgery here in the offseason, so obviously

2252
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:25,599
Speaker 1: it was a pretty serious situation. They haven't been very

2253
01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 1: successful in finding receiver talent short of the trade of

2254
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 1: Randy Moss back in OH seven o eight. So the

2255
01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 1: Chickens have finally come home to roost there and their

2256
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 1: misses in terms of personnel have finally added up to

2257
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:45,800
Speaker 1: an issue where it may be the difference in keeping

2258
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:48,080
Speaker 1: the quarterback or watching and walk out the door. Well,

2259
01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 1: heck with them? Where does Brady go? Yeah? Yeah, I

2260
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:57,240
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, can you can pick any team

2261
01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:00,600
Speaker 1: that you want, and as long as there only to pay,

2262
01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:03,560
Speaker 1: I suppose they would be in the running. But I

2263
01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:07,200
Speaker 1: think Tennessee is very appealing because of his relationship with

2264
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:09,640
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel, the head coach, being a former teammate of his,

2265
01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:12,600
Speaker 1: not to mention the fact that they have bonified weapons.

2266
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 1: So if they bring back Derek Henry, I think they're

2267
01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 1: in really good shape to make their best pitch to

2268
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 1: Brady Vegas. I don't think. I don't. I think a

2269
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:25,680
Speaker 1: dark horse in this though, guys, is Tampa Bay. I mean,

2270
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 1: how can you ignore what Bruce arians has done with

2271
01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:32,840
Speaker 1: multiple quarterbacks in this league with his system, whether it's

2272
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, Peyton Manning, and even Jamis Winston. I mean

2273
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:40,880
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. He led the league in passing yards this year,

2274
01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 1: I believe, and he's nowhere near the consistent quarterback that

2275
01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:50,480
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is. So the way I look at it is, look,

2276
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:54,880
Speaker 1: this is a situation where, man, you've got a lot

2277
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:57,240
Speaker 1: of talent at the wide out position. You've got a

2278
01:55:57,280 --> 01:56:01,720
Speaker 1: supreme athlete in O. J. Howard. Mike. I think there's

2279
01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:04,880
Speaker 1: a lot more in Tampa than people realize, and I

2280
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if they make a big pitch to

2281
01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:10,320
Speaker 1: him as well. Yeah, and I know there's always also

2282
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:13,840
Speaker 1: Vegas is out there also, the Chargers are out there

2283
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:16,320
Speaker 1: as well. There's still so I think it's gonna be

2284
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 1: a bidding war, and you've got two teams and the

2285
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:20,640
Speaker 1: Chargers and the Raiders who are trying to open up

2286
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 1: a new thing. I think they're gonna throw a ton

2287
01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 1: of money and give him financially and the term of

2288
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:28,240
Speaker 1: the deal whatever he wants, and it's going to be

2289
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 1: up to him to decide, well, do I really want

2290
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:32,520
Speaker 1: a three year deal to go out there and flop

2291
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:34,640
Speaker 1: around for three years or do I want to take

2292
01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 1: a two year deal with Tampa Bay and have a

2293
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 1: chance to win another Super Bowl without Bill Belichick, right,

2294
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 1: And there's certainly a ton of talent that would be

2295
01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:45,640
Speaker 1: around him if he was on the Chargers roster. You know,

2296
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 1: the skill position talent there is fantastic, especially if they're

2297
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:53,520
Speaker 1: able to get Hunter Henry back. So there's plenty of

2298
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:56,240
Speaker 1: options that he'll have at his disposal, and that it's

2299
01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 1: a matter of the Tom Brady World Tour finding the

2300
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:02,520
Speaker 1: last and final stop, last thing I got for me, Chris,

2301
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:04,600
Speaker 1: And we haven't talked to you in a couple of weeks.

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01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:08,800
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on the proposed new CBA and how practically

2303
01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:10,840
Speaker 1: what it might mean for fans is they watch again

2304
01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 1: more football? Yeah, one game year, you know, starting in

2305
01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:18,320
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, probably, but more football, and I think

2306
01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:21,760
Speaker 1: expanded playoff, you know, knowing it's going to be seventeams

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Speaker 1: in each conference is probably what's going to be most

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Speaker 1: appealing to the fans. They feel like their team's got

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Speaker 1: a better chance each and every year. No one one

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Speaker 1: more team is going to reach the postseason. So those

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Speaker 1: are probably the early returns, and then the expanded rosters

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Speaker 1: I think is going to make things interesting too, not

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Speaker 1: only from game day perspective, but in terms of final cuts,

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Speaker 1: you know, which is always the time of the year

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Speaker 1: where fans really have their ear to the ground to

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Speaker 1: see who who are the fifty three or what should

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Speaker 1: soon be fifty five on the final squad. Last thing

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Speaker 1: I got for you, Brownie Bill's top need wide receiver

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Speaker 1: or offensive line. Yeah, I'm gonna heade here. It's both, guys,

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Speaker 1: I mean, but I would probably go because knowing the

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Speaker 1: depth of the wide receiver talent in the draft, I

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01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:19,000
Speaker 1: would be inclined to go offensive line, assuming of course,

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01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 1: that all the needs are not filled in free agency.

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Speaker 1: If that's the case, like we get to draft day

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Speaker 1: and maybe they've got a veteran offensive linement on a

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Speaker 1: one year deal but may not be starting caliber, I'm

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01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:36,680
Speaker 1: going offensive tackle. I think we all learned in twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: guys that if you don't have an offensive line capable

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Speaker 1: of resetting the line of scrimmage, it doesn't matter what

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Speaker 1: shiny toys you have at the skill positions. They're not

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01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:49,200
Speaker 1: going to do anything. If your line can't block and

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01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:52,640
Speaker 1: can't protect and can't run block, can't get out and move, etc.

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Speaker 1: It's all going nowhere without the guys up front. Chris,

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Speaker 1: great to catch up with you. We miss you. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you soon. Thanks for coming on. All right, take here, guys,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown Bills inside a Buffalo Bills dot Com. You

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Speaker 1: didn't let him choose edge Rusher. That's not an option

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Speaker 1: for you. That's not offense. Oh did you? I thought

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01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 1: you just said bad defense. You know, it's like special teams.

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Speaker 1: We're taking a break. We're coming back. One Bill Slide

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalaida Hell from the Seneca Studio. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome Back, One goes Live, John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker coming here from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park.

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Speaker 1: Got a good show today with Andrew Bryant, Leslie Frazier,

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01:59:44,080 --> 01:59:46,920
Speaker 1: Chris Brown. Another good show coming up tomorrow. Our Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll remains up and we'd like to hear from him

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Speaker 1: in do you have many phone calls? No bone lines

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Speaker 1: open eight three fifty toll free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty and the Twitter poll, which

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Speaker 1: is getting mixed response from some of the folks on

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Speaker 1: the show. I think it's a decent question with the

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Speaker 1: news that Leslie Fraser becomes assistant head coach. Look, the

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02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:08,680
Speaker 1: Bills are one of three NFL teams that have had

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Speaker 1: the same head coaching coordinator for two straight years, which

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Speaker 1: is incredible. That's that much turnover around the league. Our

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Speaker 1: question is how important is coaching continuity to the bills success?

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Speaker 1: You might think being easy, it's really important. Next question,

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Speaker 1: think about it and why is it important? Give us

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Speaker 1: a call eight three five fifty toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. This time of year, especially,

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Speaker 1: people will say who cares of the coaches is get players?

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Speaker 1: It's all about talent. Well, I understand that. Ninety percent

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Speaker 1: responding so far, I got about five hundred responses. Ninety

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Speaker 1: percent say it's very important, it's a lot. How important

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Speaker 1: is coaching continuity a lot? Ninety percent say, ten to

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Speaker 1: nine percent say a little, and two percents say not

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Speaker 1: at all. Give us a call eight three five fifty

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Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Steve,

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Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, we've been saying for a

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Speaker 1: week anyway, I've been saying that Tom Brady's next stop

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Speaker 1: is the next is the domino that has to fall

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Speaker 1: before all the quarterbacks getting lined up again in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: that Tom Brady is holding up progress as far as

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Speaker 1: quarterback movement in the NFL. Free agency starts in two weeks.

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Speaker 1: It looks like, based on a couple of reports out

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Speaker 1: of Boston, that the domino's that domino is about ready

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Speaker 1: to uh to fall, right right there. Yeah. Today it's

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02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:29,560
Speaker 1: been reported by Adam Wells that Brady spoke to Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick on the phone and it really didn't go all

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Speaker 1: that well, and also by posted by scharian Williams today

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Speaker 1: just before two o'clock that it was unfruitful and quoted

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Speaker 1: somebody the source was not particularly productive. So and Belichick

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Speaker 1: spoke in the conversation reportedly that as if Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: was still under contract, as if it was just another

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Speaker 1: day at the office, I guess. And it's interesting to

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Speaker 1: see the because those two, let's face it to be real,

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02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:07,800
Speaker 1: we as contentiousness. We've seen contract negotiations be or whatever.

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02:02:07,920 --> 02:02:11,040
Speaker 1: These two guys are friends, they have a lot of

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Speaker 1: success behind him, and certainly there's a there's a coach

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Speaker 1: and a player relationship, but there's also a man demand

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02:02:16,760 --> 02:02:20,560
Speaker 1: relationship and there's both of them. You know, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of respect across the table from both of them,

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02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:26,880
Speaker 1: so any conversation was probably pretty cordial. But there's no

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Speaker 1: question that there's a different dynamic here at work, and

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady for years has been undervalued financially by the Patriots.

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02:02:38,240 --> 02:02:42,720
Speaker 1: I think that he wants that to change. What that

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Speaker 1: means is that he's got to be willing to leave

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Speaker 1: the franchise. I don't think it's a financial thing. I

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Speaker 1: don't Does he want more money, Sure he does, who doesn't.

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Speaker 1: I think he wants to sign that the Patriots are

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Speaker 1: going to build a team that can be successful around him.

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Speaker 1: We joked with Chris Brown the one twelve game last year,

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02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:03,640
Speaker 1: but I think he's looking for additions on offense and

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02:03:03,880 --> 02:03:06,160
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit on defense so that they continue

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02:03:06,200 --> 02:03:08,640
Speaker 1: to be successful and he only wants to play a

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Speaker 1: couple of more years. Karen Region and the Boston Herald

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Speaker 1: says the two had a telephone conversation yesterday. It did

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Speaker 1: not go well between Brady and Belichick. Arguably not even

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Speaker 1: arguably one of the great quarterbacks of all time and

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Speaker 1: one of the great coaches of all time. That's the

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Speaker 1: first time Brady and Belichick have talked about his contract.

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Speaker 1: The discussion involved in New England's plans going forward. No

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Speaker 1: additional details were provided. Tom Current of NBC Sports Boston

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Speaker 1: trying to get him on the show tomorrow. He's on

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Speaker 1: top of this. He says the conversation was not particularly

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Speaker 1: productive and Belichick was talking as if Brady were still

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Speaker 1: under contract. Well, he is for two more weeks March

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Speaker 1: ching teenth. He's forty two years old. His contract runs

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Speaker 1: out Marching teenth. But if they're going to do something,

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Speaker 1: I said first Domino that Domino's got to fall in

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02:03:51,600 --> 02:03:53,920
Speaker 1: a hurry here. I think I don't know that I

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Speaker 1: agree with with what you just said about what's important

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Speaker 1: to Brady about it not being money. It may not

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Speaker 1: be money, but also say this, here's what I think

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Speaker 1: it is. I think he wants to play for a

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Speaker 1: couple more years, three years, and he wants to contract

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Speaker 1: that long, and he wants the Patriots to guarantee it,

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Speaker 1: and he knows he's smart enough. No, they won twelve

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Speaker 1: games this last year. Certainly the efforts they made that

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Speaker 1: we just talked about in the last same and they

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02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:19,160
Speaker 1: tried to get it fixed around him during the season

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02:04:19,160 --> 02:04:21,920
Speaker 1: they brought all kinds of guys in. Josh Gordon left,

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02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:24,760
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown didn't work out, he was a train wreck,

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02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:27,640
Speaker 1: and nikkil Harry only started to get good enough at

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02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:29,400
Speaker 1: the end of the year, and Edelman was nicked up

2436
02:04:29,400 --> 02:04:31,440
Speaker 1: the whole year, and they lost Grenkowski and all that stuff.

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02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:35,080
Speaker 1: Tom Brady has to know the Patriot's gonna build a

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Speaker 1: team around him. They tried to last year. It didn't

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Speaker 1: go well. Okay, fine, we're gonna do it. This year.

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Speaker 1: They've got it. They can get it done. And he's

2441
02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:44,880
Speaker 1: got to know better than anybody else how that's gonna happen.

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02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:47,240
Speaker 1: They may not score fifty points a game, but they're

2443
02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:49,680
Speaker 1: certainly gonna be a better offense than they were this

2444
02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:53,840
Speaker 1: last year. Tom Brady knows that he won twelve games

2445
02:04:53,880 --> 02:04:56,200
Speaker 1: with him last year with an offense that was down

2446
02:04:56,360 --> 02:04:58,440
Speaker 1: with a great defense. They've won a ton of different

2447
02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:01,200
Speaker 1: ways during his career. I think the thing that is

2448
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Speaker 1: keeping him out of the door is their unwillingness to

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Speaker 1: guarantee him three years. Yeah term, Yeah, I think that's

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Speaker 1: what he wants. I think if he looks at team building,

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02:05:13,560 --> 02:05:15,680
Speaker 1: he looks at the team that has and people are

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02:05:15,720 --> 02:05:18,520
Speaker 1: gonna reject as some people will. But they have not

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02:05:18,680 --> 02:05:21,640
Speaker 1: drafted well. They have not drafted well. They have a

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02:05:21,640 --> 02:05:26,040
Speaker 1: hard time putting the pieces around Brady in particular to

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Speaker 1: complement his skill set now a skill sets different at

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Speaker 1: age forty two, forty three. But I don't think. I

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02:05:31,200 --> 02:05:32,880
Speaker 1: don't think he can look at the Patriots and say, well,

2458
02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:35,000
Speaker 1: you guys will get the usual gems you get out

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Speaker 1: of the draft. They don't draft well, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that's weighing on him as well. Yeah, and they can.

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Speaker 1: Let's face it, they consistently draft low. They don't draft

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Speaker 1: have high draft picks, and that's an issue. They don't

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02:05:46,160 --> 02:05:49,440
Speaker 1: get blue chip athletes a lot of the time because

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02:05:49,480 --> 02:05:52,360
Speaker 1: of their position in the draft consistently, and that, you know,

2465
02:05:52,520 --> 02:05:54,600
Speaker 1: perhaps that wears on him. But free agencies should be

2466
02:05:54,640 --> 02:05:58,200
Speaker 1: able to sprinkle in some guys anyway. But here, but

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Speaker 1: that's the thing that's the thanks use me. I think

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Speaker 1: this is gonna go to free agency. I think he's

2469
02:06:04,600 --> 02:06:08,640
Speaker 1: gonna get this off the charts offer from whoever it

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Speaker 1: is for, whether it's Tampa Bay, Los Angeles, Las Vegas,

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Speaker 1: whoever in Tennessee. He'll get some offers, you know he will,

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Speaker 1: and he'll have the decency to go to New England

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02:06:18,840 --> 02:06:22,960
Speaker 1: say what about it, what can you do? And they'll

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02:06:22,960 --> 02:06:25,880
Speaker 1: say and they'll say, well, we told you what we're

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02:06:25,880 --> 02:06:28,720
Speaker 1: gonna do, and he'll say, okay, fine, I say buy

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02:06:28,840 --> 02:06:30,800
Speaker 1: or say I'll take your deal. I think it's more

2477
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Speaker 1: my guests and it's just a guess. I think it's

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02:06:33,080 --> 02:06:35,800
Speaker 1: more likely that by the time we get there March eighteenth,

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Speaker 1: m Brady knows what the Patriots plans are keeping or

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Speaker 1: let him go. And I think indications are they're going

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Speaker 1: to let him go. I think they'll have that settled back.

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Speaker 1: I think they will. I think they will. But I

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Speaker 1: think also though, I don't think it'll be like come

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Speaker 1: back here where they offer you get do you do

2485
02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:52,120
Speaker 1: you just said? I think he'll do it out of

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02:06:52,440 --> 02:06:54,320
Speaker 1: respect for what they've been through. I think he'll do it,

2487
02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:56,520
Speaker 1: say listen, here's my offer, do you want it or not?

2488
02:06:56,640 --> 02:06:58,840
Speaker 1: And they'll say. He'll know they're gonna say no, but

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Speaker 1: he'll say I gave him the chance, and they won't.

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Speaker 1: Here's why he's not gonna He's not gonna go to

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02:07:03,640 --> 02:07:07,400
Speaker 1: San Francisco, which has been reported today like there's actually

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02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:10,040
Speaker 1: some interest in San Francisco because their quarterback had one

2493
02:07:10,080 --> 02:07:14,120
Speaker 1: bad game, so they're interested in Tom Brady. He's said,

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02:07:14,120 --> 02:07:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go to San Francisco and never give

2495
02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:18,360
Speaker 1: you a chance, one last chance to say, hey, I

2496
02:07:18,400 --> 02:07:20,600
Speaker 1: think that'll be settled by the time. It probably will be,

2497
02:07:20,640 --> 02:07:22,200
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you this, He'll give him the chance.

2498
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:24,720
Speaker 1: Here's the thing why we talk about it so much,

2499
02:07:24,760 --> 02:07:26,440
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it the rest of this week.

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Speaker 1: This is big because the door is open in the

2501
02:07:30,640 --> 02:07:34,960
Speaker 1: AFC East. Right, Bill's fans, and don't don't fool yourself.

2502
02:07:35,000 --> 02:07:36,960
Speaker 1: How long, how long we've been waiting for this day?

2503
02:07:37,400 --> 02:07:39,600
Speaker 1: When Brady is now this close to getting out the

2504
02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:41,840
Speaker 1: door in New England, this close to not sitting on

2505
02:07:41,880 --> 02:07:44,360
Speaker 1: top of the AFCAS, you've been waiting for since since

2506
02:07:44,400 --> 02:07:47,280
Speaker 1: two thousand and one. Right, this is important and it's

2507
02:07:47,320 --> 02:07:49,360
Speaker 1: gonna matter whether Brady is in New England. I really

2508
02:07:49,400 --> 02:07:51,880
Speaker 1: believe it. And it looks like as of today, I

2509
02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:53,560
Speaker 1: guess a little more evidence that he might not be

2510
02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:56,040
Speaker 1: in New England. It's big, Steve, don't tell me it's

2511
02:07:56,080 --> 02:07:58,600
Speaker 1: Brady and not Belichick. It's big. If Brady is not there,

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02:08:00,040 --> 02:08:02,920
Speaker 1: it's Belichick, not Brady. But don't tell me that, Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because Brady makes a difference. A great quarterback, Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: greatest of all time. Yeah. Maybe I've seen him have

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Speaker 1: success with other guys that's all the tortured the one

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Speaker 1: who is tortured Bills fans. Yeah, he's the guy. I've

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Speaker 1: seen the Patriots have success with other guys at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not convinced they're gonna They're not gonna fall

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Speaker 1: off a cliff. It's right. I'm telling you that right now,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna finish. They're not gonna win the division. If

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Speaker 1: he's gone. I'll tell you that right now, there's a

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Speaker 1: team right next door is gonna win the division. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna I'll tell you what. There's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 1: of optimism if it happens, no question, but all crown

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Speaker 1: them when they went earned the crown. Here's a call

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Speaker 1: from Dave. Hello, Davy, around the line, make it quick

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Speaker 1: where ilst out of time, Dave. Okay, So I just

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Speaker 1: want to say I really enjoy the continuity of the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff. I also appreciative that they gave that Fraser bump. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I have another comment, and I do want to ask

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Speaker 1: a question. My first comment is, Steve back, you do

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Speaker 1: this Twitter poll needed a little hotsauf on it today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you grating the Twitter polls. Thank you day tomorrow's

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Speaker 1: Twitter pole? What was the best Twitter pole question we ever?

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Speaker 1: Ad that's the only poll that matters. It's me and

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Speaker 1: day two to zero. What else you got, Dave? Here's

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Speaker 1: my question, real quick, um, with regards to head coaches

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Speaker 1: out there next you know, after this twenty twenty seasons

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02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:25,560
Speaker 1: and we know Davill got a you know, a few

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Speaker 1: interviews and whatnot is there and I'm leaving the tow

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Speaker 1: you guys that will hang up and listen. But do

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Speaker 1: you think there's more of an opportunity of the next year?

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Speaker 1: Are you there's some people that maybe on the chopping

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Speaker 1: block this year if they're just giving them the chance.

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Speaker 1: And you mean a coaching staff or you mean head

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Speaker 1: coaches around the league, coach around the league, Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: might be on the chop close to the chopping block. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's that's difficult. That's a big that's a whole segment

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Speaker 1: right there. Um, all right, Yeah, that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, not off the top of my head.

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02:09:57,120 --> 02:09:58,800
Speaker 1: I'm having I'm struggling to come up with something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Adam Gase, that would be the first guy on my list.

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Speaker 1: Adam Gase. If it doesn't go with the Jet, if

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Speaker 1: it doesn't go well for the Jets and Sam Darnold

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02:10:07,160 --> 02:10:10,480
Speaker 1: doesn't take a big step forward, Adam Gase won't survive that.

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Speaker 1: As long as it's a short list, I do think

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Speaker 1: it's a short list. Thanks for calling, but I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you this, I don't want Leslie Frasier to coach the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Coling. Good to talk to you, Dave. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. We're coming back. One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalada Health from the Seneca Studio in

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Speaker 1: Orchard Park. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. So what have

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Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier got a job promotion today. The Bill's defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator in the last three seasons goes into year four

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Speaker 1: as defensive coordinator. Assistant head coach. Leslie Fraser says, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's kind of done a lot of the assistant head

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Speaker 1: coach duties. A lot of these assistant head coach duties

2570
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Speaker 1: during his tenure here in Buffalo. Here's what he said.

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Speaker 1: My role has always gone beyond just coordinating defense, and

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Speaker 1: obviously that's my primary for sure, to make sure our

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Speaker 1: defense is right. But we've always talked about where our

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Speaker 1: offense is, where our special teams are, what's going on organizationally. Hey, Leslie,

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Speaker 1: I've got this meeting coming up with ownership. What are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on this? And you know, I looked at it,

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Speaker 1: John Steve where I felt like when I got here

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Speaker 1: one of my responsibilities was to hopefully help Sean not

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Speaker 1: to make some of the same mistakes I made as

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Speaker 1: the first time head coach, and I've kind of tried

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Speaker 1: to embrace that. And fortunate for me, I would a

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Speaker 1: head coach who receives that the right way, doesn't have

2583
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Speaker 1: an ego, not get caught up in pride, and we

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Speaker 1: can have those hard conversations. Leslie Frazier gets the promotion

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Speaker 1: today assistant head coach and maintains his job as defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Also on the show Today, Andrew Brant covers the business

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Speaker 1: of sports for sports Hillist dot Com. Andrew Brant talked

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Speaker 1: about the voting going on right now on a new

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Speaker 1: collective bargaining agreement by NFL players. Here's what he said.

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Speaker 1: The Executive Committee, which I think the leadership of the

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Speaker 1: union reports too, not vice versa. They are against this

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Speaker 1: deal seven to four. The player reps have a lukewarm

2593
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Speaker 1: endorsement in my opinion of seventeen to fourteen with one abstention,

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Speaker 1: and now it goes to the nineteen hundred players. But

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Speaker 1: to me, that's a hell of a way to walk

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Speaker 1: into an eleven year deal, which brings up my real

2597
02:12:35,560 --> 02:12:39,800
Speaker 1: problem with the deal too long? And why not have

2598
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Speaker 1: an opt out like the owners got in order to

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Speaker 1: get the deal they currently have. They opted out of

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Speaker 1: the previous one that would reassess the economics of TV,

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Speaker 1: the economics of gambling, the economics of data, everything that's

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Speaker 1: going to be changing drastically over the next couple of years.

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Speaker 1: New CBA Andrew Brant, who has served in the front

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Speaker 1: office with the Green Bay Packers and now he is

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Speaker 1: with an agency dealing as a player agent. But he

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Speaker 1: brought up a good perspective to the Steve and got Again,

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Speaker 1: it's a perspective that might not matter to most fans.

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Speaker 1: People just see just keep football on my TV. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they wanted ye know, happy go lucky. I'm just show me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like fel I don't I don't want to get Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they just want a football, right, just you know, keep

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Speaker 1: it quiet outside the lines. Just just show me the

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Speaker 1: product on the field and on the television and keep

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Speaker 1: it rolling. I think that's where most people are. But

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Speaker 1: we'll find out that. I mean they want that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they want to feel good about the players being taken

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Speaker 1: care of and stuff because they understand as a physical

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Speaker 1: game and all that stuff. But for the most part,

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Speaker 1: it's like if the players are voting for it, shut

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Speaker 1: up and sit down, I mean right. Spoken by a

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Speaker 1: former player. Production assistant George Blast, Jeff Coltonick Thomas, honald Or,

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Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, Jjjarito, Kevin Cargis, James Robile, our producer Jay Harris.

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Speaker 1: We got you tomorrow at twelve noon. More talk about

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, more talk about draft prospects. On One Bill's Live,

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