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Speaker 1: It's stay or go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jenny is here calling a local radio show to

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Speaker 2: solve life's problem.

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Speaker 1: Jenny, Hey, guys, Hey.

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Speaker 2: Jenny, what's going on? Tell us your situation?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I do need some advice.

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Speaker 4: My husband and I got married last year, and I

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Speaker 4: know that this is called stay or go, but I'm

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Speaker 4: not actually considering divorce.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, thanks for calling by. Yes you did, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you signed the waiver.

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Speaker 2: The waiver says at the end, you have to do

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Speaker 2: whatever we tell you have to. You have to divorce

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Speaker 2: the man if we tell you to divorce the man.

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Speaker 2: That's that's part of the people don't realize this. It's

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Speaker 2: a waiver. People have to sign it and they have

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Speaker 2: to do what we decide at the end.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Jenny, Well, I want your opinion on something

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Speaker 4: that has actually been affecting our marriage though, so I

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Speaker 4: haven't changed my last name to his like I originally planned.

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Speaker 3: Prior to the marriage.

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Speaker 1: We discussed it.

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Speaker 4: And I said I would do it, but I'm kind

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Speaker 4: of changing my tune now.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to.

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Speaker 4: But it's because I'm really proud of being a lawyer,

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Speaker 4: and I'm proud of my name in my line of work.

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Speaker 3: And I'm the one that.

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Speaker 4: Went to law school and busted my butt, not my husband.

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Speaker 3: It's my name.

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Speaker 4: And also, you know, my dad is my hero and

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Speaker 4: it's his name, so I want to honor him also,

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Speaker 4: and basically.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to change it anymore. Meanwhile, well give

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Speaker 1: me well, yeah, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: No, he's devastated. He's not happy about it. He said,

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Speaker 4: I've always dreamed of having the woman I love take

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Speaker 4: my last name, and it's something that heightened when he

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Speaker 4: that he barely asks me for anything. This is the

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Speaker 4: one thing and it's gotten his hopes up. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's been.

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Speaker 1: Causing some issues at home.

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Speaker 4: And while I do feel bad that I changed my mind,

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Speaker 4: I think it's okay that we change your mind about things,

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Speaker 4: you know, once they marrinate. And I want to know,

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Speaker 4: I want your advice.

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Speaker 2: Why did you tell him that you would if you

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Speaker 2: if you don't want to. I mean, like these aren't

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Speaker 2: new things, right, Like you probably were a lawyer, your

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Speaker 2: dad was, you're here. All these reasons existed before. So

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Speaker 2: why was it okay before and it's not okay now?

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Speaker 4: Maybe because I had time to think about it. It

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Speaker 4: wasn't right away, and now I'm thinking, maybe it's important

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Speaker 4: to have my name because of my dad and because

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Speaker 4: of my you know, pride to myself.

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Speaker 2: I guess I just wonder what changed, because you could

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Speaker 2: have said no before, you know, you could have said, hey,

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Speaker 2: look the all these things, all these reasons are why

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Speaker 2: I want to keep my name. But I still want

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Speaker 2: to be married to you now. Granted, I don't think

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Speaker 2: you have a right to change your mind. It's your name.

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Speaker 2: You've changed your mind, You've created an identity for yourself,

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Speaker 2: a brand. Again, there's this familial pride, all these different things.

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Speaker 2: I guess I don't know why you can't. I don't

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Speaker 2: does that? How does that change the fundamentals of your

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Speaker 2: marriage at all? It doesn't. You still love the guy.

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Speaker 2: Everything is exactly the same. You just decided that you're

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Speaker 2: not okay with this. You are right to it.

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Speaker 1: It's your name.

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Speaker 5: It's the one thing, though, that he's asking her for.

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Speaker 5: The one thing he's asking I think.

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Speaker 1: That's not true.

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Speaker 2: That's the one thing he's asking for, But how many

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Speaker 2: other things are implied in a relationship? Or in marriage

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Speaker 2: that he's saying that's the one thing he's asking. He's

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Speaker 2: also asking for love and affection and loyalty and all

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Speaker 1: This is this is vanity. Wow, Okay, what do you mean?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's your partner is your husband?

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Speaker 5: If you you took on this Marrior, you guys married,

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Speaker 5: you are one now, So can't you just maybe hyphenate

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Speaker 5: his name at least at the very least he wants

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Speaker 5: you to be missus Jones or whatever, Like, can you

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Speaker 3: Like that's this one.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm a.

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Speaker 2: Little surprised by you, Kiki, because you are a strong,

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Speaker 2: independent type a woman period. And I know, and I'm

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Speaker 2: not I'm not trying to pin you on this, but

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Speaker 2: I know that you believe that a woman or a

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Speaker 3: I absolutely believe that.

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Speaker 5: But as I'm mature, Okay, I'm a little bit more

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Speaker 1: When did that happen? I was going to say it

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Speaker 1: was the weekend. Interesting, I can kind of see it.

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Speaker 3: Seriously, Like it's not a lie.

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Speaker 5: He's not asking for the world like in there, there's

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Speaker 5: a way that you can hyphenate your name and still

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Speaker 5: honor your father, still keep your name. You don't have

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Speaker 5: to go change your business cards. But if he wants

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Speaker 5: to say this is missus so and so, like, why

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Speaker 5: not do that for your partner?

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Speaker 1: Is that an option? Would you hyphenate?

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Speaker 3: I would consider hyphenating.

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Speaker 4: It's just I want to carry my dad's name, like

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Speaker 4: he basically came to the US with nothing and gave

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Speaker 4: me everything that I feel like that's how I can

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Speaker 1: Then I would consider that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you were asking her kind of like what's changed,

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Speaker 6: right Fred? You were saying, you know, you agree to it.

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Speaker 2: I was just curious, Yeah, why was it a good

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Speaker 6: I think it could be a form of I don't

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Speaker 6: want to call it cold feet because I don't think

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Speaker 6: it's the same thing. But I think when you're about

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Speaker 6: to make that change, I can see how you do.

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Speaker 3: You do switch up and you change your mind. I

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Speaker 6: I was standing in the Las Vegas Courthouse, and I said,

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Speaker 6: I don't want to change it, and my husband said,

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Speaker 6: I wish we talked about this prior, because we're standing

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Speaker 6: and now we're over here debating about a last name.

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Speaker 6: He had every right to feel that way, and I

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Speaker 3: The thing is, I never went to go change it,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I chose not to because I was like, I

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Speaker 3: I really don't. It's not a hassle. He's not a hassle.

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Speaker 6: It's just I didn't want to refeels laughing because I

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Speaker 3: I know women have to be the ones to do it.

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Speaker 3: That's another question.

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Speaker 7: Why so I never I never said I never. I

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Speaker 7: was never like, all right, you're taking my last name.

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Speaker 7: It's just the fact that Jess says it's it's too hard.

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Speaker 7: There's so much things to do.

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Speaker 1: I'm like there is. I'm like, it's is it that hard?

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Speaker 7: Like, yeah, you get new numbers, you get new credit cards,

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Speaker 7: you get but it's like, so it's not worth it though,

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Speaker 7: like like it's been we've been married for seven years.

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Speaker 1: She still has her last name. I could see if

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Speaker 1: I had kids some uniformity.

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Speaker 2: And I also and by the way, Jenny, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: take some phone calls on this, so have your radio one.

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Speaker 1: But thank you.

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Speaker 2: Well, now we're gonna talk about you behind your back.

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Speaker 2: It's our favorite part. So thank you.

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Speaker 1: Have a good day.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thanks eight five five, five nine one one three five.

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Speaker 1: You can call it text the same number.

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Speaker 2: I think I would not have any issue if if

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Speaker 2: I married somebody who didn't want to take my name

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Speaker 2: for whatever reason, especially if it was reasons like this.

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Speaker 2: She was proud of her own name for some reason.

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Speaker 2: But I have to say that because the Frederick name

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Speaker 2: only lives on with me at this point, because my

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Speaker 2: have there's no Frederick involved, and they're also girls, and

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Speaker 2: and everyone called me Fred. They were making fun of me.

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Speaker 2: And then you've heard the story before, then you can

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Speaker 2: And my grandfather picked me it from school because it

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Speaker 2: They call me Fred. And to this Dad do not

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Speaker 2: I think he lied. I think he's a liar. But

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Speaker 2: I embraced it and immediately became my nickname. And there

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Speaker 2: I think if ever someone were unlucky enough to be

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Speaker 1: But otherwise I don't care.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like what is your relate?

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Speaker 7: Like I'll say my last name, and they'll be like,

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Speaker 7: So like and we got two kids. I'm like, it

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Speaker 7: listed as one parent under her last name. I was like,

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Speaker 7: are we And then I'm the one that comes to

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Speaker 1: Like are we together? Are we not together? It's a

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Speaker 1: very weird look, but like to me, that's how it looks.

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Speaker 1: We go to the doctor, we got two different names.

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Speaker 7: Our kids have my last name, so it's like a

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Speaker 7: We got to give our names. I'm like, uh yeah,

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Speaker 7: but like we're wearing rings. I'm like, it's so it's

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Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with property, nothing. It's simply

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Speaker 2: He said what do you think? And I said, what

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Speaker 2: But obviously we, you know, have come a long long way.

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Speaker 2: But Brittany, Hi, how are you Hi?

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Speaker 8: Good warning her?

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Speaker 1: Are you very well? Thanks for calling? So stare go.

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Speaker 2: This woman is having an issue in her relationship because

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? So, I mean, I see both sides that you're

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Speaker 1: Good day I talk.

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Speaker 8: So, like I said, I see both sides, I totally do.

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Speaker 8: But I mean, she could just hypenate it and then

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Speaker 8: Like I don't understand what's so bad about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think you're right, Thank you, Brittany. I

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Speaker 1: Have a good day, Thank you too.

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Speaker 2: I think this actually happened in my life too, because

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Speaker 2: But it's not real common when when the male and

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Speaker 2: because I'm his son. And then my sister went and

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Speaker 2: threw both of them boys somewhere. Hey, Rachel, that went

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Speaker 2: overwhelm Rachel. Hi, how you doing O great?

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Speaker 1: My poor sister takes the brunt of no one.

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Speaker 2: No one in the world can complain about not having

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna fix everything right here.

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Speaker 9: I'm going to tell you what, thank you. I'm going

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Speaker 9: Practice her real estate business under her maid's name, so

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Speaker 9: But also she can still take her husband's name and

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Speaker 2: I agree with you some form of compromise here, but

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Speaker 7: I don't think she's going to do it. What what if?

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Speaker 7: When do they have kids?

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Speaker 1: Listening? So many? Erica had that play Rachel, thank you

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Speaker 6: Okay, they have kids going to take what would they pick?

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Speaker 3: I picked my daughter to have her dad's last name.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't like, that's that's their family. That's the baby. That's

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but she could have the same last name as

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I would believe.

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Speaker 6: So if I have a baby, I do she has

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, is this kid right here?

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Speaker 3: I don't think you guys knew, but I have a baby.

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Speaker 7: But a lot of times they differ because of insurance

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Speaker 7: the insurance is under Like, like, I have the insurance,

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Speaker 3: And now we're like talking different stories.

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying, I know, I think at the end

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Speaker 3: Also, that's half of the dad, Like, that's dad's baby.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yes, I would like that, but I would

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Speaker 3: Baby like, h Well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get you, Erica.

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Speaker 2: Hi, So you're saying she should take his last name

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Speaker 10: Yes, I kind of agree with what Rachel was saying.

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Speaker 10: Oh wait, sorry, Hi, you can hear me?

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Speaker 1: Right? Oh yeah, no, very much?

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Speaker 10: Sorry? I agree with what Rachel was saying about taking

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Speaker 10: So a little bit of a backstory is that my

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Speaker 10: things I've discovered after having my husband's last name with

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Speaker 10: my daughter and us having the same last name, is

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Speaker 10: that it's not necessarily taking his last name, but it's

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Speaker 10: having you all as a family as a unit.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, and.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, so now we're all our family with our

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Speaker 10: last name.

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Speaker 1: If that are Erica, well, thank you, have a good day.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Let's also address one for the thing that has not

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Speaker 2: been addressing. What is this last name that she's that

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Speaker 2: she's taking. What is this last name?

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Speaker 3: Is it a better last name? Is it a worse

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Speaker 3: last name?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: Is it longer harder to spell?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that changes what the initials turn

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Speaker 1: off all the information.

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Speaker 4: I also would like to point out that divorced parents

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Speaker 4: do it all the time with two different last names,

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Speaker 4: and the kids are okay.

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Speaker 1: The last name is one of the last name is Mayas.

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Speaker 5: Look at this point, I take you the girl just

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Speaker 5: just you know, what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: A reservation is just put missus you know, missus Jones.

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Speaker 5: Just make her feel good. You ain't got to change

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Speaker 5: the paperwork, just put it down there.

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Speaker 2: Girls just make it look nice, but don't actually fundamentally

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Speaker 2: change of thing. Yeah, I need to hear all the information.

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Speaker 2: It's a few things I don't know. A missiles for it.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be like a Z e Z.

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Speaker 3: It's not good.

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