Speaker 1: The ups and downs of spring. Let's talk to the pros.
Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros.
Speaker 1: This is the Fantasy Baseball Podcast. It is me, Joey P.
Speaker 1: Joe P's Apia with me as always as the Welsh,
Speaker 1: and it's you and today we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: the same old thing we talked about all last year,
Speaker 1: Jacob de Gram's injury. Oh my goodness, are we back
Speaker 1: again where we started? Let's hope not. But we're also
Speaker 1: going to talk a lot more about the good things
Speaker 1: in spring, the risers in our rankings from what we've
Speaker 1: seen so far from spring performances, and of course wherever
Speaker 1: there's risers, there's fallers as well, So we'll be going
Speaker 1: through some of the guys that maybe had not so
Speaker 1: good springs, maybe some injury concerns or some other issues
Speaker 1: have crept up that we've dropped in our rankings. And
Speaker 1: since we know this is the biggest weekend of MLB drafting,
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Speaker 1: what the Welsh and I do. Welsh, as we were
Speaker 1: talking before the show, we're getting closer and closer to
Speaker 1: actual baseball. We're less than a week away now, and
Speaker 1: I'm getting very excited for the start of the season,
Speaker 1: how about you.
Speaker 3: I was until I got sick and then Jacob de
Speaker 3: Grom got hurt. So if there's two constants in the world,
Speaker 3: is me going down right before all of the big
Speaker 3: stuff happens and Jacob de gram hurting his arm again,
Speaker 3: ruining my draft shares and all that stuff. But no,
Speaker 3: I am excited. I have a different perspective than a
Speaker 3: lot of you guys because of spring training. You know,
Speaker 3: like I've been inundated with baseball in person for you know,
Speaker 3: a month, getting to see games, getting to be around players,
Speaker 3: getting to watch practices, getting to see the little things
Speaker 3: on where guys are going, the players that aren't coming out,
Speaker 3: all that type of stuff. So my perspective is a
Speaker 3: little bit different. But of course getting into games that
Speaker 3: like really count gonna be pretty exciting.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I interact with crackers and peanut jacks, panat.
Speaker 1: Jacks, crackers and pena jacks. That's all. That's That's a
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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, you can't do that.
Speaker 3: Two notes. I wanted to because you busted through like
Speaker 3: a ton of stuff there, so it was like I
Speaker 3: was waiting to try to like crevice my way in
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Speaker 3: doing a mock draft on in this league, our final one.
Speaker 3: You know, we do these mock drafts through January. It's wild.
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Speaker 3: And it was our final one and one of the
Speaker 3: guys in there, one of our army members on our
Speaker 3: on our in this league patrio, we have he Uh,
Speaker 3: he's a great fantasy guy. And we started to notice
Speaker 3: because he'd done a couple of mock drafts. We're like,
Speaker 3: he's projecting out great every single time, and he is
Speaker 3: a staunch Fantasy pros guy. And this last one we
Speaker 3: finally were like, wait a minute, this is fishy. He
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Speaker 3: one hundred confident that he was using the Draft Wizard
Speaker 3: against us in it, because he got a perfect one
Speaker 3: hundred in the mock draft and did in the final
Speaker 3: one projected out number one, and we were like, the
Speaker 3: hell's going on here? And it's happened in two straight
Speaker 3: mock drafts.
Speaker 2: I can guarantee you he's using the Draft Assistant.
Speaker 1: No, we know he was.
Speaker 3: He's a Fantasy pros like hardcore guy, so we know it.
Speaker 1: Uh telling you, I mean, we're not selling stuff here.
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Speaker 1: not the crackers and the peanut jacks.
Speaker 2: I don't know who those are.
Speaker 1: Jacks, Damn peanut jacks. Man. I love you know. I'm
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Speaker 1: all right, let's start with the headlines. And of course
Speaker 1: I woke up and it's you know, I'm old, so
Speaker 1: I fall asleep at like ten o'clock and I woke
Speaker 1: up this morning.
Speaker 2: And it's it's April Fool's Day.
Speaker 1: And I see the Jacob de Gram tweets and I'm like,
Speaker 1: a ha ha, okay, but no, it's real. He's going
Speaker 1: for an MRI on his shoulder. He's got some tightness.
Speaker 1: Now this could very well be soreness tightness, and you're
Speaker 1: you're just kind of the normal thing that happens to
Speaker 1: pictures that they ramp up. But because it's Jacob Degram,
Speaker 1: there's hyperventilating going on, and rightfully so, because of everything
Speaker 1: we saw last year when he's on the mound Welsh,
Speaker 1: he is the best there is.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's it's not even like to
Speaker 2: say he's.
Speaker 1: The best is not fair to the word the best,
Speaker 1: because he is so dominant, he's so incredible. Even it's
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, when he had Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: who got hurt last year and he was still like
Speaker 1: RB ten or whatever by the end of the season
Speaker 1: because he was so good With de Gram, he had
Speaker 1: a one eight ERA last year, a point five whip,
Speaker 1: which is just nuts over ninety two innings. Check out
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty six guys walk just eleven. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's absurd, it's disgusting how good he is so well
Speaker 1: going into this weekend. Now, what do you do with
Speaker 1: de Gram? How do you approach him from a draft standpoint?
Speaker 1: Now that we have this latest news where things are
Speaker 1: a little bit up in the air.
Speaker 3: Here's the benefit to it? Because I it's a little
Speaker 3: tough for me because I've been a staunched a Gram guy.
Speaker 3: I tend to do this. I recognize it, and I
Speaker 3: think people that listen to me recognize it. These guys
Speaker 3: that are incredible talents that might have an injury tag
Speaker 3: around them, I don't like to ding them to the
Speaker 3: level of even like what was happening with Da Grom.
Speaker 3: You know where people are like, listen, you can't take
Speaker 3: maybe in the fourth round, but you can't take Da
Speaker 3: Grom in the top five pitchers. Blah blah blah. And
Speaker 3: then as soon as I called it, it was one of
Speaker 3: those things I absolutely called. I said, watch what happens
Speaker 3: when you start seeing him pitch. He's gonna go back
Speaker 3: up to being the top pitcher. He went two I
Speaker 3: think overall in a main event on NFBC this past weekend.
Speaker 3: So you know, the blinders come on, you should recognize it.
Speaker 3: But my fault is I don't ding him for these
Speaker 3: type of things because he is so insanely, insanely dominant.
Speaker 3: And I mean, how many times do you see, you know,
Speaker 3: projected pictures to have two and a half eras in
Speaker 3: projections you don't because projections follow the x FIP in
Speaker 3: a lot of those factors. He's just he is the
Speaker 3: best picture when he's out there. So to the question
Speaker 3: what do you do, here's a benefit MRI is happening
Speaker 3: here on Friday. You should know what you're getting into
Speaker 3: on Saturday. For the most part, the likely scenario is
Speaker 3: it's nothing serious. He does not pitch his scheduled start
Speaker 3: on Saturday, and then they just line him up for
Speaker 3: the season and no DL I el stint and then
Speaker 3: that's the best case scenario, and I think you move
Speaker 3: forward with what you were doing. I was never taking
Speaker 3: de Groam fifth or six overall of all players I loved.
Speaker 3: I loved to Grom before everybody else loved to Grom,
Speaker 3: and it was popular this year in the second round.
Speaker 3: That's where I really liked him. There a risk in
Speaker 3: the first. I don't like taking pictures in the first
Speaker 3: unless it's a points league in general. So nothing has
Speaker 3: changed for me. Everybody else has changed from maybe I'll
Speaker 3: take him in the late third to taking him fifth overall,
Speaker 3: I still stand where I stand now. If it's something
Speaker 3: where you know there's a slight tear and blah blah blah,
Speaker 3: you know, move him down, move him off the board.
Speaker 3: To be frank, If it's something that he's going to
Speaker 3: miss a month, he is going to plump. I mean
Speaker 3: to the point of not even drafting at that point,
Speaker 3: like maybe really late post one hundred. But best case scenario,
Speaker 3: we have answers on Friday following the MRI, we move
Speaker 3: forward and maybe just don't take him in the first.
Speaker 3: Take him after cold, take him after burns, take him
Speaker 3: in the second like I was always doing.
Speaker 1: It's very frustrating though, because this is a guy we
Speaker 1: want to take it in the top five picture. But
Speaker 1: there's a chance by the time we get to this
Speaker 1: weekend's drafts that he's more in the Chris Sale, Lance
Speaker 1: mccullor's Jack Flaherty bucket than he is in the top
Speaker 1: five Pitture bucket.
Speaker 2: And that's just a fact.
Speaker 1: And you just mentioned what if he does miss three months,
Speaker 1: what if he misses the whole season?
Speaker 2: You have to weigh that. And I always say this
Speaker 2: to everybody because.
Speaker 3: He had the end I mean interview, but he had
Speaker 3: like the elbow or the elbow inflammation I think it was,
Speaker 3: and then he also had the UCL stuff last year.
Speaker 3: So the absolute fear is any of this is tied
Speaker 3: to that, and this is going to remind people back
Speaker 3: on the injury.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 3: So God.
Speaker 1: I think the point I make to everybody is this,
Speaker 1: if you're in a league where you have a heavy
Speaker 1: financial investment, I'm just not taking the risk.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. There's other approaches.
Speaker 1: Why put yourself in a deficit, and it's heartbreaking because
Speaker 1: I know what the upside is. But if you're in
Speaker 1: a fun league, if you're at a casual league, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a great way to have some fun and
Speaker 1: take a chance if you get a discount, and I
Speaker 1: assume you're gonna get a discount. If he was a
Speaker 1: pitcher going consistently in the second round, I would think,
Speaker 1: no matter what the MRI tells you, even if it's
Speaker 1: positive he's gonna at least take a two round hit,
Speaker 1: he's gonna go in the fourth round or something like
Speaker 1: that would be my guess for most casual leagues, or even.
Speaker 3: Unless you pitch his saturdy, if he goes back and
Speaker 3: he's on his normal schedule and.
Speaker 1: It's not that'd be really hard sale for me. I
Speaker 1: don't know about that.
Speaker 3: You think I'm just saying, well, that's his scheduled start.
Speaker 3: If you were to go and pitch just hypothetical, I
Speaker 3: think he's no longer a for sure first rounder. He's
Speaker 3: somewhere in the second, you know, maybe late second. Maybe
Speaker 3: you get a little bit of a discount on him.
Speaker 3: If we go back to a regular scheduling program like
Speaker 3: that's where that would go. But I don't know if
Speaker 3: that's going to be the case.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to our regularly scheduled topic here,
Speaker 1: which is spring, risers and fallers and Welsh what's start
Speaker 1: with you? Who's a guy that's rising up your board
Speaker 1: after spring is now sprung?
Speaker 3: Now this will be a funny one because as a
Speaker 3: prospect person, you guys know that, especially this specific person
Speaker 3: I've talked a whole lot about. But I have to
Speaker 3: admit I would chastise people in January for taking this
Speaker 3: guy so high because I didn't see the path. And
Speaker 3: then you had MLB's agreement on CBA come out and
Speaker 3: they have some incentives prospects to make the roster. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's a little bit better. Still didn't see the path.
Speaker 3: This team then made a move to trade for a
Speaker 3: positional player that this guy would be there. I still
Speaker 3: didn't see the path. Then I saw this guy in
Speaker 3: games and saw how the team was treating him on
Speaker 3: the backfields, and Julio Rodriguez had to skyrocket back up
Speaker 3: the boards. He wasn't a guy I was drafting early on.
Speaker 3: And because I mean honestly, the team has babied him.
Speaker 3: You know that there's been a breaking ball kind of thing.
Speaker 3: He gets a little bit wild, which he showed in
Speaker 3: a couple of days ago, where you know, he's young guy,
Speaker 3: base path, running defense. Sometimes I can get just a
Speaker 3: little bit wild, and I didn't see the need for
Speaker 3: the team to want to press him. But you now
Speaker 3: go out you see how he had some adversity. I
Speaker 3: think it was on Wednesday, and then Thursday he comes
Speaker 3: out and he has an inside the park homer. He's walking,
Speaker 3: He's two for two. He's a team leader. I've been
Speaker 3: on the backfields of the Mariners about four times over
Speaker 3: the last like two and a half weeks. He is
Speaker 3: consistently working with Kelnick, consistently working with Winker. He's with
Speaker 3: the majors at every point. He's most physically imposing guy.
Speaker 3: He's one of the best players that is out there
Speaker 3: consistently offensively, and it's hard to deny. I don't think
Speaker 3: the Mariners necessarily are doing it for the extra compensation,
Speaker 3: but when you get into that two hundred range, it
Speaker 3: is worth taking the risk and the shot. On Julio Rodriguez,
Speaker 3: it looks like he can make the opening day roster.
Speaker 3: I don't see what they're going to put him down
Speaker 3: for Kyle Lewis is hurt. Taylor Tremmell has not been playing,
Speaker 3: by the way, even healthy, he's all good, they're not
Speaker 3: playing him in competitive games. I think he's a fourth outfielder.
Speaker 3: I think Kohlio makes the roster. He has skyrocketed up
Speaker 3: the boards. I don't think I'll be the top guy
Speaker 3: on Fantasy pros, but I pushed him up very close
Speaker 3: into the two hundred range, and he's one of the
Speaker 3: top prospects you should draft, even though there's no guarantees
Speaker 3: on him. Do it now, because if they were to
Speaker 3: announce let's say today and Friday, coming into the weekend.
Speaker 3: I don't know when you guys are listening to this,
Speaker 3: but let's just say hypothetically, Scott Service comes out and says,
Speaker 3: Julio Rodriguez has made the roster and he'll be batting
Speaker 3: six for the Mariners this season. I'm not joking you.
Speaker 3: Julio might go right around one hundred overall. I'm serious.
Speaker 1: I really think he well, I've got him as a
Speaker 1: top fifty outfielder already.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he can get in that range. So
Speaker 3: that's why you should reach. You should go. And he
Speaker 3: has skyrocket up my board, and Spring has done him
Speaker 3: fantastic favors where most you know, most of these guys,
Speaker 3: it doesn't really do that right.
Speaker 1: And that's the other thing too. We always talk about
Speaker 1: how certain players Spring matters more than others. Other players
Speaker 1: they can, it doesn't matter. They can have good springs
Speaker 1: and bad springs.
Speaker 2: You know who they are.
Speaker 1: But to look at the ten games he's had this spring,
Speaker 1: two on the run, six RBI, nine strikeouts, but he's
Speaker 1: got three walks, three stone bases, hitting three sixty with
Speaker 1: a four to twenty nine OVP and the seven to
Speaker 1: twenty slugging. So the ops is eleven forty nine. So
Speaker 1: Rodriguez right now, I'm with you. In fact, I'm good
Speaker 1: with being aggressive on him. And if you have a
Speaker 1: draft Friday, as we're saying Saturday, when that news changes,
Speaker 1: if it does change, If it does, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: even worse in terms of price tag you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to pay for him. I wouldn't take over in a redraft.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking him over Jared Walsh yet. I'm not
Speaker 1: taking him over Hunter Renfro yet. But right around where
Speaker 1: you got to start to have that Jesse Winker say
Speaker 1: as a Zuki kind of conversation. That's where I'm starting
Speaker 1: to wonder do I want the upside? And I think
Speaker 1: it's a fair conversation.
Speaker 3: You and I are a little different on that. I
Speaker 3: just want to point out Winkers which one far higher.
Speaker 3: I mean, you put Winker in the saales Zu I
Speaker 3: do not. I do not remotely put those two in
Speaker 3: the same range. But I just want to point out
Speaker 3: in our last mock draft, I think Julio went about
Speaker 3: one seventy five, so I think between I think when
Speaker 3: one fifty hits, you need to start getting on your business.
Speaker 3: You need to start considering if he's a guy I
Speaker 3: think around for do Go, I think around Carlson. Suzuki
Speaker 3: is a great example a Doulus Garcia. That's where you
Speaker 3: need to start considering if you want to be aggressive
Speaker 3: on him. Rookies are a little bit dangerous, but regardless,
Speaker 3: this could be I mean, Julio's running now, so he
Speaker 3: might steal fifteen if he plays all year, and he
Speaker 3: legit could hit thirty strikeouts. Though you got to watch,
Speaker 3: and that's always been the thing I got right. I
Speaker 3: don't know if they bring.
Speaker 2: Him up well in Roto.
Speaker 1: I think the power speed combination is tantalizing enough in
Speaker 1: points league's different story, so I think.
Speaker 2: That's also with the caveat all. Right, let's go to
Speaker 2: my guy.
Speaker 1: First on my list is Tore Scooble, who's had a
Speaker 1: wonderful spring so far. If you look at what he's
Speaker 1: done so far over the three game starts, eight two
Speaker 1: thirds innings, thirteen strikeouts, just three walks, just a one
Speaker 1: point two six whip. People have been waiting on kind
Speaker 1: of in this grouping of the Mannings and the Mises
Speaker 1: and miss pitched very well also. But I think with Scooble,
Speaker 1: what you've seen so far is he's gotten hit around
Speaker 1: the ballpark a little bit, and that's the thing that
Speaker 1: you want to try to cut back a little bit.
Speaker 1: Home runs last year a big problem too. Gave up
Speaker 1: thirty five of them. That's going to be way too
Speaker 1: many to have success. But I think if you look
Speaker 1: at what he's doing now, this is very encouraging because
Speaker 1: it's twenty five years old this year. This is where
Speaker 1: you want to see him after you know he's had
Speaker 1: about what thirty five starts or so in the big leagues.
Speaker 1: This is where I think you want to look and
Speaker 1: take that step forwards, like, okay, you got your feet wet,
Speaker 1: Now what's your confidence level?
Speaker 2: And I think when you're.
Speaker 1: Looking at Schooble, this is one of those pictures we
Speaker 1: always talk about, you know, good pictures on bad teams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they probably can help you with wins, but if they
Speaker 1: can help you with quality start leagues, keep an eye
Speaker 1: on them. And if they're efficient, that's important, and if
Speaker 1: they can help you strikeouts and school might be able
Speaker 1: to do a lot of those things. So although he
Speaker 1: might not get you w's when you're looking at guys
Speaker 1: who are undervalued right now, I think he's one of
Speaker 1: those guys. So Schooble for me, is one to keep
Speaker 1: an eye on. Any I've moved him up my board too.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying that he's, you know, a
Speaker 1: number three starter by any stretcher that means, but I
Speaker 1: think he is in that conversation now, in that top
Speaker 1: sixty ish range to at least consider what do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, people forget too. There was a period
Speaker 3: of time where people started to like Scooble over Casey Miz,
Speaker 3: you know, in Casey Miss with the big Splitter, you know,
Speaker 3: has always been unique, but Scooble has been, you know,
Speaker 3: a big two punch type of guy, big fastball, just
Speaker 3: needed to get right. And I think both of these
Speaker 3: guys it's the you know, Matt Manning throwing in there
Speaker 3: is also really interesting because at one time he was
Speaker 3: seen as a top guy, and I think he's kind
Speaker 3: of moved below those three. I think it's been very,
Speaker 3: very encouraging. He was a really intriguing strikeout guy on
Speaker 3: the back end of this last year. And what's weird
Speaker 3: is myz doesn't have like this, and I say secondaries
Speaker 3: outside of the splitter, he doesn't have overpowering secondaries of that.
Speaker 3: Matt Manning hasn't really proved to be consistent. Scooble probably
Speaker 3: is the best strikeout guy here. And you know, probably
Speaker 3: at the end of the day when we're just trying
Speaker 3: to piece together a couple of these categories, if you
Speaker 3: can get strikeouts cheap late, this might be a nine
Speaker 3: and a half, maybe even higher K per nine type
Speaker 3: of guy. Detroit's got a few more pieces in there,
Speaker 3: especially if they let Torque and Riley Green break camp
Speaker 3: and they've got Hobby Bison, they might sneak a couple
Speaker 3: more wins. I wouldn't be surprised to see to Scoogble
Speaker 3: pick up a few more wins as well and be
Speaker 3: more of an asset. So I like that pick.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to another one of your risers
Speaker 1: this spring. Well, she was on your list.
Speaker 3: Now that's a big name guy, and this is probably
Speaker 3: a pretty obvious one, but I soured quite a bit
Speaker 3: coming into this year on Chris Bryant, who I've always loved,
Speaker 3: you know, really poorous year didn't really seem to have
Speaker 3: a proper home. You know, the Giants were a question
Speaker 3: where was he gonna play? But I can't deny going
Speaker 3: to Colorado absolutely changed everything. It's almost like the dumb
Speaker 3: and dumber thing, like absolutely, you know, just when I
Speaker 3: had him, God, man, I had him around, I think.
Speaker 2: Totally redeemed himself. Yeah that's that, yeah line you're.
Speaker 3: Looking for, totally redeemed yourself. He was around the nineties.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was legit thinking between Anthony Rendon and
Speaker 3: Chris Bryant. The move to Colorado in the extra the
Speaker 3: extra love that you're gonna get with kind of a
Speaker 3: crappy position in general, I'm not the biggest Alex bregnant guy.
Speaker 3: Aaron Otto's fine, but the upside on Bryant to regain
Speaker 3: that MVP quality in the most hit or friendly place,
Speaker 3: even though they all have humidors now, which is interesting.
Speaker 3: He flew up my board and I haven't gotten into
Speaker 3: this territory where people are taking him around twenty five
Speaker 3: thirty overall, which is bonkers on that bed especially.
Speaker 1: I think they do it for the position flexibility, which
Speaker 1: is in the mack we do. A couple weeks ago.
Speaker 1: I did that, and I love the fact that the
Speaker 1: draft then came to me and I could go BPA
Speaker 1: for three rounds after and just keep moving him around
Speaker 1: the diamond. That's a huge That is worth a little
Speaker 1: bit of a premium to me. I don't want to
Speaker 1: overstate it, but the deeper the format you play, the
Speaker 1: more that becomes a huge asset because less the draft
Speaker 1: than filter to you, and you could keep taking the
Speaker 1: best talent.
Speaker 3: Just move.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna move to first, move to third, can
Speaker 1: move now for like a move all over.
Speaker 3: I agree, but I think it's more the Colorado. It
Speaker 3: just put a hit.
Speaker 2: It helps him thirty homers in.
Speaker 3: Colorado who's had like Cody Bellinger. Everybody's off on Cody
Speaker 3: Bellinger right now. Everybody is kind of fading him. It's
Speaker 3: actually not a guy will probably talk about here in
Speaker 3: a little bit, But imagine Cody Bellinger coming off these
Speaker 3: bad years and then going into Colorado. What people would do,
Speaker 3: you would forget. So it's kind of the same thing
Speaker 3: as Chris Bryant. Chris Bryant has proven to be a
Speaker 3: better hitter, So I agree, position flexibility is great, third
Speaker 3: base sucks, and put a you know, big bopping hitter
Speaker 3: in Colorado. All those factors came in. But from a
Speaker 3: rising perspective, that's it for me. He's really moved up. Plus,
Speaker 3: I think this team can be aggressive on the base paths,
Speaker 3: which might be good for players in front for RBI opportunities.
Speaker 3: It's not a there's obviously, the Dodgers are incredible. The
Speaker 3: Padres are fine, though they're little wonky and their staff,
Speaker 3: but you know, you get to play Arizona, you get
Speaker 3: to play in Colorado. So he has really moved up
Speaker 3: into that you know, top fifty range. I don't really
Speaker 3: love it inside the top twenty five, but anywhere between
Speaker 3: thirty and fifty if you want to jump on it,
Speaker 3: I'm good with it. And he has rocketed up my board.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll give you another big name on my
Speaker 1: list too, since we're doing the big names here and
Speaker 1: it's Francisco Lindor.
Speaker 2: Who is I know, you know, he's had good springs
Speaker 2: in the past.
Speaker 1: I get that. I understand that that's that's good, that's
Speaker 1: a positive thing. But after last year, it was such
Speaker 1: a bad taste in everyone's mouth, and we saw the
Speaker 1: typical guy signs a big contract in a new place,
Speaker 1: especially a big market, struggles out of the gate, gets
Speaker 1: into some media tussle, especially New York.
Speaker 2: You have that whole controversy.
Speaker 1: Who went bias showed up, They where the thumbs down
Speaker 1: stuff and all that nonsense. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the year, those people held on to Francisco Lindor, those
Speaker 1: people who acquired him actually ended up getting a benefit there.
Speaker 1: They stayed true eventually, if you were still relevant, Francisco
Speaker 1: Lindor did perform. And what he's doing right now this
Speaker 1: spring with ten hits, ten RBI, four home runs, already
Speaker 1: hit four hundred this spring, he's showing you power. He's
Speaker 1: got a couple doubles too. Again, stolen a base, which
Speaker 1: is just I'd like to see him steal a base
Speaker 1: the spring. That'd be nice. But this was a player
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, just a year removed basically
Speaker 1: from he's kind of an almost first round talent, and
Speaker 1: I think we have to buy back in. I think
Speaker 1: the hype that goes along when you go to a
Speaker 1: big market team is the adverse that happens too, is
Speaker 1: when you don't perform well all of a sudden, then
Speaker 1: people underestimate you and forget and they want to pile
Speaker 1: on a little bit because the exposure level was so
Speaker 1: big on the positives and the failures, and he felt
Speaker 1: a little bit last year. Let's be honest, I would
Speaker 1: say what four and a half months of the season
Speaker 1: was a failure for Cisco Landor? Right? Would you agree
Speaker 1: with that? Well? About about right. So now we're getting
Speaker 1: to a point with Lindor where if he's got a
Speaker 1: good spring, if he seems like he's got a good
Speaker 1: fresh attitude going in there, I think here's a lot
Speaker 1: more attention on guys like Scherzer right now and some
Speaker 1: of the other acquisitions, and there is necessarily on Lindor.
Speaker 1: That's all the good things. So Lindor to me's another
Speaker 1: player that I I know say move up because he's
Speaker 1: already pretty highly rated player. That's the struggle kind of
Speaker 1: like with Welshissing. But I've moved him back into that
Speaker 1: place where I think, yeah, you know what, this guy
Speaker 1: is a second round talent and you might be able
Speaker 1: to get him, might maybe in the third or fourth round.
Speaker 2: And I think that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Yeah, I mean I think depending on the
Speaker 1: depth of your league too. I mean, if you're in
Speaker 1: a shallow league, he's going a little bit later than
Speaker 1: he should because people also look at shortstop, but it's
Speaker 1: quote so deep end quote they're kind of dismissing the
Speaker 1: talent there. And I think Lindor has another big season
Speaker 1: potentially in him. But this is a guy with you know,
Speaker 1: twenty five to twenty five kind of potential.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I was. I'm with you because I
Speaker 3: was always there this spring, you know, digging in on
Speaker 3: last year. I mean, there's a lot of like little
Speaker 3: worrisome things that were poking out there. But it's one
Speaker 3: of those anomalies to the picture who he was if
Speaker 3: you take it over you know, the COVID year in
Speaker 3: last year. Otherwise, this had been a really consistent hitter,
Speaker 3: you know, a twenty twenty type of guy, a five
Speaker 3: tool player. If you a five tool, right shortstop where
Speaker 3: you get those really needed stolen bases where some of
Speaker 3: these guys don't you know where you're not getting him
Speaker 3: from Seeger and Korea by as you're not getting the
Speaker 3: batting average for you got all of that with Lindor,
Speaker 3: and Lindor, like you said, uniquely could be a first
Speaker 3: round talent that you can get in the third or
Speaker 3: fourth round and you know he's had. We've also talked
Speaker 3: about this before where a lot of these guys in
Speaker 3: this new adjustment team period where they change major franchises,
Speaker 3: they've got some growing pains to learn, new divisions, new teammates,
Speaker 3: just new life, you know, circumstances, and then they come
Speaker 3: in and they rEFInd themselves. Matchata as an example of that.
Speaker 3: I think this can be that year for Frankie Lindor.
Speaker 3: So I have been there with you. I'm totally with it.
Speaker 3: He was high pre spring and I'm still there and
Speaker 3: I'm excited. I'm excited to try to draft him. Actually
Speaker 3: this weekend, I don't know if I have a ton
Speaker 3: of shares.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't have any yet. I haven't really gotten
Speaker 1: a chance to take him. He's going as the ninth
Speaker 1: shortstop off the board. Right now. I would take him
Speaker 1: over Tatisse right now. I think I would take him
Speaker 1: in a five by five over wander Franco. I would
Speaker 1: take him over Trevor's story. Personally, I think he is
Speaker 1: the conversation with Tim Anderson. If you want to have
Speaker 1: that one, that's fine, But I think he's you know,
Speaker 1: maybe safer than Marcus Simeon coming off that career year.
Speaker 2: You can make the argument the Lindor.
Speaker 1: Is the third or fourth shortstop in fantasy. You can
Speaker 1: make an argument because you can never make the argument.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The problem is there's that also the problem in
Speaker 3: that position, there's this clump of all these great guys
Speaker 3: that I don't even like to sit here and have
Speaker 3: this argument of like this guy over this guy, because
Speaker 3: literally within a ten pick range, I think you're looking
Speaker 3: at Tim Anderson, Trevor's story, Wander Franco, Francisco, Lindor's a
Speaker 3: and Bogarts and all those guys, and you can pick
Speaker 3: and choose. You know, it's a create your own adventure
Speaker 3: with what whatever shortstop you want, where it's like, hey,
Speaker 3: I get second base eligibility with Trevor story at some point,
Speaker 3: or I'm going to get the stolen bases here, or
Speaker 3: I'm going to get better batting average with Franco, you know,
Speaker 3: so you can build the stories of all of those guys,
Speaker 3: but it also kind of muddies that position a little bit.
Speaker 3: Why I probably don't have the shares because there's so
Speaker 3: many guys, and there's guys later like we've talked about
Speaker 3: with the you know, Willie Damis or the Brandon Crawford's
Speaker 3: even super late or Bobby Witt Junior. So that's why
Speaker 3: I don't get in on that. But what would be
Speaker 3: nice is if Lindor is the faller, and he's likely
Speaker 3: to be the guy that falls because story's got new
Speaker 3: big buzz. Tim Anderson is big on stolen bases, Wander Franco,
Speaker 3: you know, the next big thing. Lindor seems to be
Speaker 3: the odd man out, and that's actually really good for that,
Speaker 3: like you know, forty to fifty range if you can
Speaker 3: swoop him up.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to another guy who's a riser
Speaker 1: for you this spring Welsh in the draft boards.
Speaker 3: I'm going with another young guy, Jeremy Pania. I don't
Speaker 3: know how many people are up on Jeremy Pagnia. He's
Speaker 3: a shortstop with the system. He's actually out here in
Speaker 3: the Arizona Fall League, like two thousand and nineteen, I
Speaker 3: believe it was, and he has consistently bulked gotten bigger.
Speaker 3: He's a hulk out there, and the team loves him,
Speaker 3: loves him so much that they've given him the reins
Speaker 3: for Carlo's Korea Leaving. On the broadcast just a couple
Speaker 3: of days ago, I was watching Jeff Bagwell was just
Speaker 3: owing and awing about him where they were hitting him
Speaker 3: up high in the batting order. I don't really truly
Speaker 3: believe they would do this, but they're talking about even
Speaker 3: potentially letting Jeremy Paenia lead off occasionally. He's a really
Speaker 3: solid contact guy. He's got completely underrated power because just
Speaker 3: people don't understand or really know about Jeremy Pania, and
Speaker 3: if you're hitting high in that lineup, you kind of
Speaker 3: can't deny the value that might be there from the
Speaker 3: shortstop position for a guy like this later in drafts,
Speaker 3: and I think I've seen a lot of people picking
Speaker 3: him up late just his perspective. In twenty and twenty one, Painia,
Speaker 3: in only one hundred and forty five at bats, had
Speaker 3: ten homers. With sixtill in them. Base is hitting two
Speaker 3: ninety seven in the minors and he has hit over
Speaker 3: two ninety since twenty nineteen. He's gone through four levels
Speaker 3: of the minor leagues. He's twenty four years old, big
Speaker 3: six foot shortstop, added power. I think he could sneak
Speaker 3: into twenty homers there. He'll steal some bases as well.
Speaker 3: Astros don't steal bases, so we'll kind of see how
Speaker 3: that goes. But if they are really gonna put Kyle
Speaker 3: Tucker back in the order and not lead off Altuve
Speaker 3: and Paynya is going to get some of that run.
Speaker 3: This is a guy who through his spring he's been
Speaker 3: successful and the team has talked him up and they
Speaker 3: haven't filled his position. So Jeremy Pania super good, sneaky
Speaker 3: late shortstop to pick, and he has moved up my
Speaker 3: draft board to really pay attention to because we would
Speaker 3: be drafting him as more of a middle infielder and
Speaker 3: he might be worth.
Speaker 2: It, I can tell you right now. Via to the
Speaker 2: top of the order in April.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be very interested in the DFS world in
Speaker 1: him because he's going to be a lot cheaper than
Speaker 1: a lot of the other guys in that position, and
Speaker 1: hitting at the tubby the order is always something you
Speaker 1: want to targeting those. So I think that's a great
Speaker 1: name to throw out, not just for season long, for
Speaker 1: DFS purposes too, So Welsh throughout a young guy, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna throw out an old fart. Normally it's good when
Speaker 1: you lead the league in home runs, except when you're
Speaker 1: a pitcher. Patrick Corbin last year gave up thirty seven
Speaker 1: of him not good. He also led the league and
Speaker 1: earned runs, giving up one hundred and eleven. Patrick Corbin
Speaker 1: is such an odd career when you look at it,
Speaker 1: because if you go back to some of those diamondback days,
Speaker 1: you know the years where he's going two hundred innings
Speaker 1: back to back, right back to back seasons. In eighteen
Speaker 1: to nineteen, the ERA was under three to three, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, right he goes to the Nationals,
Speaker 1: has a good season there, we think, okay, you know,
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty eighth strikeouts, All right, this is
Speaker 1: this is the guy we won Patrick Corbyn. Then twenty
Speaker 1: twenty the wheels fell off four to six six ERA,
Speaker 1: and then last year, I mean the whole he fell
Speaker 1: out of the car. I mean, if the wheels fell
Speaker 1: off the car, he was like Fred Flintstone, kind of
Speaker 1: like trying to put it together with his feet. Which
Speaker 1: I know that's an older reference for some of you
Speaker 1: out there. You could go google it, but I mean
Speaker 1: last year he was nine and sixteen. I know we
Speaker 1: don't pay an attention at records, but it's just funny.
Speaker 1: So he led the lead again, lost games, He led
Speaker 1: the league and earned runs, and he led the league
Speaker 1: in home runs given up. It's not good, but but
Speaker 1: he is free and so far this spring nine innings,
Speaker 1: ten strikeouts, two walks. So I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a health issue the last couple of years with him,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a confidence issue. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is. Well, but as a free pitcher
Speaker 1: towards the end of drafts, if you're gonna give me
Speaker 1: a healthy enough Patrick Corbyn, who could even get dealt
Speaker 1: as I'm sure Washington's gonna just continue to unload assets
Speaker 1: here this year, he could end up on a much
Speaker 1: better team sometime in July or August. If that happens.
Speaker 1: You know, right now, the spring performance has been eye
Speaker 1: opening to me, and I always like to look at this.
Speaker 1: You know, those bounce back guys are just as important
Speaker 1: as the young sexy guys like the Rodriguezz that we
Speaker 1: talked about before, the school bulls. Sometimes the old fart
Speaker 1: guys too that people have kind of dismissed and forgotten about.
Speaker 1: And if he can get back on track, this is
Speaker 1: a guy. Once upon a time, Welsh was one of
Speaker 1: those guys you looked at as a one to a
Speaker 1: kind of ace in fantasy baseball. And I know the
Speaker 1: Nats aren't gonna win a ton of games, but I
Speaker 1: think as a free square, I'm investing.
Speaker 2: What do you think about KORbin potentially bouncing back?
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is another one of those guys. You picked
Speaker 3: another one that I like as well. Twenty nineteen he
Speaker 3: had fourteen wins with an over ten k per nine
Speaker 3: and a three ERA. He actually had three and a
Speaker 3: half x FIP in two thousand and nineteen and twenty
Speaker 3: eighteen he had a sub three x FIP, which is bonkers.
Speaker 3: I mean literally, his x FIP was better than his era.
Speaker 3: The problem is, guy's a two pitch pitcher, and if
Speaker 3: you get inconsistent or you're not full in anybody, you're
Speaker 3: not gonna work, and that's where he's falling apart. It's
Speaker 3: the same thing we've seen with the Chris Paddock with
Speaker 3: the padres where you know, I know he has tried
Speaker 3: to add a third pitch and try it. I think
Speaker 3: it's the curveball and trying to get more. You know, guys,
Speaker 3: you have to be able to set up more, and
Speaker 3: when you're a two pitch pitcher, you don't have a
Speaker 3: lot of that, especially if your fastball is flattening out
Speaker 3: or you're not getting spin on it, you're not commanding it,
Speaker 3: and all guys are gonna do is sit on your
Speaker 3: second sit and wait on your secondaries because they know
Speaker 3: they can catch up to your fastball. And that's a
Speaker 3: lot of what we saw with Patrick Corban. But I'm
Speaker 3: in because this team can't get out from under the
Speaker 3: pitching because of the contracts. They also, even though we
Speaker 3: talk about them maybe blowing it up, they're kind of
Speaker 3: pseudo still in there and still competing. And if the
Speaker 3: pitchers were to work, I think it would get them
Speaker 3: back in that. Patrick Corbyn is a guy that I
Speaker 3: think can get back into double digit wins. I think
Speaker 3: he can regain the strikeouts we're kind of seeing it
Speaker 3: in the spring, which I think is encouraging. And the
Speaker 3: most important part is he is free. He's free with
Speaker 3: only two years removed of ten plus k per nine
Speaker 3: and lots of wins. It's not the same team, but
Speaker 3: I will take free ninety nine on Patrick Corbyn and
Speaker 3: I'm in.
Speaker 1: He's free like the MLB draft kit over fantasypros dot
Speaker 1: Com slash kid. See what I did there. So I've
Speaker 1: got Patrick Corbin. I've moved him all the way up
Speaker 1: into the high sixties here. He's in that same range
Speaker 1: as like Casey Mice and Louis Patino. Would you take
Speaker 1: Corbyn or one of those younger guys.
Speaker 3: In a redraft to Pattino or.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Louis Patino and Casey Mice, Yeah.
Speaker 3: They're all in the same tier. I might well, you
Speaker 3: know what, I would have said, Patino, but he's been
Speaker 3: like a little bit banged up. I might take Corbin.
Speaker 1: I think I might take Corbyn. I've got Corbin ahead
Speaker 1: of him again, that's the order right now. I've got
Speaker 1: it corbyin Patino myz. And then you know some guys
Speaker 1: like Alex Cobb floating around there too. Well, that's a
Speaker 1: bonus one we're not gonna talk about, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: he's flying up and rightfully so. If he's touching ninety
Speaker 1: seven on the gun coming off a good year in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, that's another bonus guy that wasn't on our
Speaker 1: lists but almost made mine. But I just think I'll
Speaker 1: take my shirt on the guy who's thrown two hundred
Speaker 1: innings more than once. You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's actually the really important key there is
Speaker 3: he's gonna get massive amounts of innings. They're gonna rely
Speaker 3: on him all year long. I don't think they can
Speaker 3: get out from the contract. You hope he doesn't have
Speaker 3: sixteen losses again this year, but it kind of a
Speaker 3: scrappy team.
Speaker 1: I'll take the sixteen losses if he gives me a
Speaker 1: ten K per nine. He gives me a mid three
Speaker 1: z e R, I'll take that.
Speaker 2: That's fine.
Speaker 1: You can lose all those games you want, all right,
Speaker 1: Let's go to the last guy on the Riser list
Speaker 1: for you while show you got.
Speaker 3: If you're talking about, who are the guys during spring
Speaker 3: that have helped their cause, I'm not sure there is
Speaker 3: a guy that's helped their cause more than Haesu's Lozardo,
Speaker 3: whose former top prospect. I absolutely loved him with the
Speaker 3: A's and he really fell into inconsistency, which is so
Speaker 3: interesting because that is a lot of what he was
Speaker 3: built off of. Lozardo multi pitch pitcher, lots of different pitches,
Speaker 3: he could command the zone. But one of the things
Speaker 3: I loved about him, he's a very off kilter pitcher.
Speaker 3: So you know, he would normal pitch you and then
Speaker 3: you know, second pitch in he might he might quick
Speaker 3: pitch you, like he gets the ball and just bahm,
Speaker 3: and then he might do a hold, you know, hold
Speaker 3: his foot motion and then pitch, so he would keep
Speaker 3: guys off balance. He's a really smart pitcher with multiple
Speaker 3: good pitches, and became completely inconsistent. He lost a decent
Speaker 3: amount of his fastball. He's risen his average fastball. This
Speaker 3: I know one of the starts, and my buddy Chris
Speaker 3: Claig had tweeted about a couple of these things. You've
Speaker 3: seen him a put almost three miles per hour back
Speaker 3: on his fastball, hitting the high nineties and see b
Speaker 3: see jumping in and throwing the curveball more than the fastball.
Speaker 3: And that really sets up because if you are throwing
Speaker 3: ninety nine and everybody has to sit on that curveball,
Speaker 3: you're going to get strikeouts. It's just the type of
Speaker 3: success a young pitcher that's actually like kind of like
Speaker 3: a twenty seven to twenty eight, twenty nine year old
Speaker 3: type of game I would think they would be playing.
Speaker 3: This is a really smart game plan for him, and
Speaker 3: I think it's going to lead to success. Overpowering with
Speaker 3: your secondaries and then just punch out, you know, high
Speaker 3: on the fastball and him adding that type of ve low.
Speaker 3: That speaks for itself. You know, that's not even a
Speaker 3: spring stat. That is just result, and we don't always
Speaker 3: need stats to you know, make us come to our decisions.
Speaker 3: That is a simple result that leads to probably him
Speaker 3: being a guy that not only need to target, but
Speaker 3: we've talked about the cheat code guys. He's an RP.
Speaker 3: He's in a qualify relief pitcher for a lot of places.
Speaker 3: So if you want to sneak in that, throw him
Speaker 3: in there. So Lizardo's moved.
Speaker 1: Up for me, all right? Love that one. Love Wizardo.
Speaker 1: In those leagues where he might qualify at RP and
Speaker 1: s P, that's that's huge, especially in those mandatory spots there.
Speaker 1: So I hope he gets back on track because I'm
Speaker 1: like you, Welsh, I was somebody who was absolutely in
Speaker 1: love with the talent in the Oakland system.
Speaker 3: And then it's just he's not free anymore, which I
Speaker 3: don't like. He was free before. He's much less free.
Speaker 3: He's really risen up boards, So I don't I will
Speaker 3: say this, I'm not willing to overpay for him and
Speaker 3: a lot of other people buzzy names. People will pay
Speaker 3: whatever the costs, even the guys we've talked.
Speaker 1: About, like, well, he's consensus to seventy three overall right now,
Speaker 1: pitcher number eighty three on the board.
Speaker 2: That's it's pretty good.
Speaker 3: But I've seen him go into the two hundreds.
Speaker 2: Like, well, here's a question for you.
Speaker 1: Would you take Alex Cobb or would you take Hazu's
Speaker 1: Lozardo because those they're pretty close to each other right
Speaker 1: now in terms of the expert consensus rankings on Fantasy
Speaker 1: pers you.
Speaker 3: Picked another guy who's had a lot of good vload
Speaker 3: changes as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I put it out there.
Speaker 3: I would take Cobb personally, but I think Iron as well.
Speaker 2: I'm hiring like that ballpark, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in the same mind as you, all right,
Speaker 1: last guy for me, it's a riser. Mackenzie Gore having
Speaker 1: a wonderful spring this year. He's taking the ball three
Speaker 1: times nine innings so far, eleven strikeouts, one walk. If
Speaker 1: you go look at the minor league track record over
Speaker 1: fifty five minor league starts, he's got a three point
Speaker 1: two eight career eer got a two point eight five
Speaker 1: career era. Pardon me, I was, We'll get the wrong
Speaker 1: number there, the one point one zero six whip. The
Speaker 1: guy's striking out eleven per nine. This is a guy
Speaker 1: we've been hearing about for ages now. It seems like
Speaker 1: and just haven't quite cracked that rotation. We thought he
Speaker 1: might get dealt in one of these deals moving back
Speaker 1: and forth. But I mean, Mackenzie Gore right now certainly
Speaker 1: looks like a guy that should get a shot at
Speaker 1: this rotation. Clevenger did start this week. It was not
Speaker 1: a great start. Clevenger said, I always think and bring.
Speaker 1: He hasn't pitched in a very long time, so there's
Speaker 1: a chance maybe that Clevenger's working behind everybody. I'm not
Speaker 1: exactly sure how many starts we're gonna get out of
Speaker 1: Mackenzie Gore this year, but I think you're gonna get
Speaker 1: enough to invest in him, so I moved him up
Speaker 1: my board a decent amount, still kind of after some
Speaker 1: of these other guys because of the unknown factors a
Speaker 1: little bit. And he is still a young pitcher, so
Speaker 1: there's still some limitations. But when you're looking at Mackenzie Gore,
Speaker 1: where do you have him Welsh and and what are
Speaker 1: your expectations for Gore in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3: I am not with everybody else on this. And I
Speaker 3: loved Mackenzie Gore back in twenty seventeen, was at his
Speaker 3: pro his first pro start, one of my favorite pictures.
Speaker 3: I had him at number one forever. But over this
Speaker 3: last two years he's really kind of fallen apart a
Speaker 3: little bit as who he was. Saw him in common.
Speaker 1: He was terrible in the Arizona Fall. By the way,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you watched him. He was a
Speaker 1: seventy hour dude.
Speaker 2: He was gonna say you saw him, bitch, he was.
Speaker 3: Did He played rookie ball out here. They kept him
Speaker 3: hanging at the complex for a while. Then he played
Speaker 3: rookie ball. Then he went to the AFL after he's
Speaker 3: shown signs, but that's my problem with him. I believe
Speaker 3: he's a reliever and I think he should be groomed
Speaker 3: to be a closer at some point. His fastball doesn't
Speaker 3: have the spin that it used to. He can't pump
Speaker 3: ninety seven inconsistent. He's got a pump closer to ninety four.
Speaker 3: He started throwing his curveball again, which I think has
Speaker 3: been more success. But his stuff is all right, you know,
Speaker 3: and he's had more He has more confidence right now
Speaker 3: where he's hitting the zones. But I don't personally believe
Speaker 3: he's gonna get into the second or third through the lineup,
Speaker 3: and that's going to hurt as a starter. So my
Speaker 3: expectation for this year, and maybe I'll be wrong. You know,
Speaker 3: the Potters might trade out Chris Paddock and Nick Martinez
Speaker 3: is not an option, and they put him in. But
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a role for Mackenzie Gore to
Speaker 3: be a starter. I think he'd be a spot starter.
Speaker 3: I think he's a kind of mid reliever playing a
Speaker 3: Garrett Crochet role. I think he'll find success. Maybe he'll
Speaker 3: be a starter next year, but I really believe the
Speaker 3: bullpen long term is where he's going to go. But
Speaker 3: I will point out he has worked with the starters
Speaker 3: the entire offseason. Here in the spring, he's with Paddock
Speaker 3: all the time is where I usually see him. I
Speaker 3: don't see him hanging out with any of the relievers
Speaker 3: or anything like that. So they're going to continue to
Speaker 3: do it until they can't. But I personally do not
Speaker 3: believe he can. So I'm not on board with McKenzie gore.
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough there, So those are our risers,
Speaker 1: Treek schoobl Francisco Lindor, Patrick Corbin, Mackenzie Gore. For me,
Speaker 1: I would also throw Hunter Green into that mix as well.
Speaker 1: Who's making the rotation? Who? My goodness, I only had
Speaker 1: eight keepers in this one league, and I kept him
Speaker 1: for like three bucks because I was like, I feel
Speaker 1: like he's gonna play this year a lot, and feeling
Speaker 1: pretty good about that one. So that's good. That same
Speaker 1: team as to gram on it. So hopefully somebody pitches
Speaker 1: for me this week, Oh my god. All right, and
Speaker 1: then of course the Welsh has Julio Rodriguez, Chris Bryant,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Pinia, hayesus Lozardo. When we threw an Alex cobb
Speaker 1: in there two as a mutual one. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get some of the followers here. For me, number one
Speaker 1: was Lance mccullors. I mean, this is just easy, and
Speaker 1: it's injury related. You know, spring performance when there's zero
Speaker 1: spring performance and this lingering injuries with a guy who's
Speaker 1: had injuries already. I love the talent. I was very
Speaker 1: high on him. If he asked me in January, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm and I have all the mccolors
Speaker 1: this year. Hopefully shows up to camp healthy and we're
Speaker 1: ready to go. That hasn't happened. He's been a foller
Speaker 1: for me. I've knocked him sick magnificantly down in my rankings.
Speaker 1: In fact, I'm going to do another, probably another refresh
Speaker 1: of some of these rankings right before we finished this show,
Speaker 1: and I've just plummeted him. I just don't feel like
Speaker 1: we're going to get a Lansma Color Seniors season at
Speaker 1: this point, which is very sad.
Speaker 2: So I'm just not touching him.
Speaker 1: I have him at Pitcher seventy five right now, but
Speaker 1: that might even potentially get worse. So he's a definite
Speaker 1: faller for me. Welsh, who is a faller on your list.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not as significant as that, And I
Speaker 3: don't want to make every single one of these about injuries,
Speaker 3: but Luis Castillo has kind of fallen for me. He's
Speaker 3: been the kind of some of the inconsistencies with the team.
Speaker 3: I'm really worried about the team context with him as well.
Speaker 3: Injury worries are out there, so I've pushed him outside
Speaker 3: of my top one hundred. And you know, he's one
Speaker 3: of those guys everybody, you know, primatively everyone's like, oh
Speaker 3: Lois Castillo, he's going to break out, and he's inconsistent
Speaker 3: in seasons. He's got months of eight eras and then
Speaker 3: he finds it for a month and a half. He's
Speaker 3: the hobby Bayas or the He's the odabertilmnd Tocy of
Speaker 3: pitchers type of guy, like he could be one of
Speaker 3: the best and he can completely fall apart. I'm just
Speaker 3: not I would take him if Bush comes to shove,
Speaker 3: but I'm not interested in paying the cost for him.
Speaker 3: And you know, them decimating that team has moved him
Speaker 3: off a little bit. So Luis Castillo number one for me?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: For me? Another faller's Cody Bellinger. I was trying to
Speaker 1: be patient, give him the benefit of the doubt, Welsh,
Speaker 1: and I think that's a smart thing to do when
Speaker 1: you've seen players who have had monstrous seasons, right, I
Speaker 1: don't want to go and be the prisoner of the moment.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go and see a player who
Speaker 1: was once hitting forty bombs and then have some struggles
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden say, yeah, that guy's toast.
Speaker 1: He's done. But man, I'm just not seeing anything. Cody Bellinger,
Speaker 1: he's had a buck forty eight so far. I know
Speaker 1: he had a decent postseason where people start to get
Speaker 1: a little excited again. But the biggest one for me,
Speaker 1: Welsh this spring He's had ten games, twenty seven at bats.
Speaker 1: He's had seventeen strikeouts in those twenty seven at bats.
Speaker 1: Something's wrong there, and I'm just not touching him. I'm
Speaker 1: not touching him.
Speaker 2: For whatever the ADP is.
Speaker 1: It was the discount of all discounts, maybe very very
Speaker 1: late in a draft, but that's not gonna happen. Somebody
Speaker 1: in your draft is probably gonna take Cody Bollinger a
Speaker 1: little earlier based on previous performance. But Welsh, I can't
Speaker 1: help but get around the seventeen strikeouts and twenty seven
Speaker 1: at pass, to me, that's a huge flag.
Speaker 3: What do you think the punchies he calls him. He said,
Speaker 3: He's like, that's what spring's for. You got to get
Speaker 3: the punchies out of the way. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, he's getting them all out of the way. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna have any left at this point.
Speaker 3: He is. I am a Cody Bellinger disciple. I kind
Speaker 3: of defend him a bit. I definitely am a little
Speaker 3: bit worried with how bad this spring is. But to
Speaker 3: the same point, good or bad, you don't want to
Speaker 3: buy everything in. But seeing the amount of strikeouts and
Speaker 3: some of the changes he's done is a little bit worrisome.
Speaker 3: I think there's just a lot of playing around that's
Speaker 3: going on. As well season comes. I think he's gonna
Speaker 3: stop screwing around. You know, he's gonna stop messing with
Speaker 3: his swing, and he's gonna get back to basics. The
Speaker 3: basics might be the problem. Though, here's what I'll say.
Speaker 3: I'm not with you. He has fallen. He actually has
Speaker 3: fallen a little bit because I think I was hyper aggressive.
Speaker 3: I will still draft him, but I like it now
Speaker 3: because he comes at a much cheaper cost because he
Speaker 3: was starting to rise up.
Speaker 2: There were some.
Speaker 3: Behind the scenes a couple people I've talked to that
Speaker 3: had some good things to say about some stuff that
Speaker 3: Cody Bellinger's did this past offseason that could help and
Speaker 3: could go to a breakout. It's not an application right
Speaker 3: now during the spring, but I am hoping that the
Speaker 3: punches are out of the way and I can take
Speaker 3: him a little bit later.
Speaker 1: Coming into this year, I feel like we had Yelich
Speaker 1: and Bellingers like Okay, some around like outfielder twenty five.
Speaker 1: You could take a shot on one of these guys.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking the shot on Bellinger there, not even close.
Speaker 1: I mean at this point, I'd rather be taking shots
Speaker 1: later and guys like Kirolov we talked about a lot
Speaker 1: more earlier this week on shows. All right, let's get
Speaker 1: to another guy on your list, Welsh, who you have?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just an easy I don't need to
Speaker 3: go crazy into it. It's kind of like your mccoulers.
Speaker 3: It's flerty flirty with the injury stuff. He's also kind
Speaker 3: of had some of those inconsistencies of a good month,
Speaker 3: bad month. He's coming into the season on an il stint.
Speaker 3: Do we really fully know the extent of of these injuries.
Speaker 3: You just moved way down and he's I'm less likely
Speaker 3: to draft him. I don't want to call him off
Speaker 3: my board, but I don't see a scenario where I
Speaker 3: draft him. So he's kind of plummeted down in the
Speaker 3: same mccullor's range.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair, And look, injuries are important, especially when
Speaker 1: it comes to the pitchers here that you have to
Speaker 1: knock them down. You can't always think everything's going to
Speaker 1: be rosy and you can't say, well, you know, hopefully
Speaker 1: you can get healthy. Because we've seen this already. It's
Speaker 1: your starting off at a deficit. You're already going to
Speaker 1: have to deal with injuries in season. If you're going
Speaker 1: to make investments, especially big investments on pictures who are
Speaker 1: very talented but are already hard to hurt to start
Speaker 1: the year, Excuse me, that's tough. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: you're already putting yourself behind the eight ball and it's
Speaker 1: not a place to be. Another guy for me that's
Speaker 1: falling down is Jared Kellnick, another one that I thought
Speaker 1: Spring was very important for seven strikeouts in the nine
Speaker 1: games and the twenty five played appearances, hitting just two
Speaker 1: hundred two thirty one obps. Take it, just one walk
Speaker 1: in those twenty five at bats. So part of the
Speaker 1: reason why I've been moving up Julio Rodriguez because I
Speaker 1: feel really confident about that guy and the tools that
Speaker 1: he brings. And I'm still waiting for Kellenick to click,
Speaker 1: and it just feels like he's one of these can't
Speaker 1: miss prospects. But we see this happen well sometimes where
Speaker 1: maybe something was lost in translation, maybe that first run
Speaker 1: of the Major League is really hurt his confidence, or
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with Jared Kellenick, but
Speaker 1: if you look at the track record in the minor leagues,
Speaker 1: was this a very solid player. A lot of people
Speaker 1: felt a very polished player that would actually transition to
Speaker 1: the major leagues quite easily, and everybody was wrong about that.
Speaker 1: And until he shows it to me, I'm knocking him
Speaker 1: down significantly in my rankings. I just can't get there.
Speaker 1: I can't do it. To me. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: guys in the outfield that are suspect as you get deeper,
Speaker 1: and if I'm gonna take somebody's suspect, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: somebody that's got more of a track record I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to take right now. I mean, you got guys
Speaker 1: like Horay Solaier, Adam Duval, Jared Kellenick. They're kind of
Speaker 1: in that same range. I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I'll take some of the boppers that I know are
Speaker 1: gonna crush batting average, but they're also gonna crush dingers.
Speaker 1: I don't know what Kellenick's gonna crush set by batting average,
Speaker 1: and I know they're committed to him, and I think
Speaker 1: that's great. But there's even guys like Tommy fam and
Speaker 1: Andrew Bennan Tendi where I kind of feel like they
Speaker 1: might be safer than kell Nick. He re draft leagues
Speaker 1: right now, Welsh, what do you think.
Speaker 3: I'm huge on Andrew ben and Tendi this year? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't reach for Jared kell Nick. Some players have
Speaker 3: to learn adversity. I think Joey Dell was experiencing that.
Speaker 3: I don't think there was a lot of, you know,
Speaker 3: baseball adversity he was dealing with. Jared Kelnick. No baseball adversity.
Speaker 3: You know, he dominated at every level. The biggest adversity
Speaker 3: he faced was being traded to the Mariners, and these
Speaker 3: guys haven't experienced a whole lot of failure. And then
Speaker 3: you get to the highest competitive level where they're being
Speaker 3: challenged where they weren't being challenged before, and you're seeing major, major,
Speaker 3: major struggles. Some players don't need it. You know, we've
Speaker 3: Wanda Franco, doesn't. You know, like failure is not an option.
Speaker 3: You know, that's not something that is in his game
Speaker 3: plan of how he plays the game. Some guys do.
Speaker 3: And I think you're gonna and that's gonna be the
Speaker 3: true testament. But you know, why pay up right now
Speaker 3: for the opportunity for him to get it fixed. Spring
Speaker 3: looks okay, he still looks a little bit beat. Julio
Speaker 3: looks better than him right now. So I don't disagree
Speaker 3: with you. I still believe in Kelnick, but he's not
Speaker 3: a draft target for me. I don't think I've moved
Speaker 3: him down a ton, but I really just don't prioritize
Speaker 3: drafting him.
Speaker 1: I have him, I've got him right now in the
Speaker 1: low seventies ish range. Like if Michael Confordo doesn't have
Speaker 1: a team the Minnick Michael Conforto signs, I would take
Speaker 1: him over Jared Kelnick. Here's a question for you. These
Speaker 1: guys have clumped together, Cavin Bizio, Jared Kellnick, Andrew Vaughn.
Speaker 1: Who would you rather have those three if you had
Speaker 1: the draft one?
Speaker 3: Oh? Kel Nick? Hands down?
Speaker 1: Okay, so still Kellenick for you. All Right, Well, let's
Speaker 1: just get another guy on your list. Who you got?
Speaker 3: Well, this is gonna be an interesting one. I don't
Speaker 3: know if you saw my notes I put up here.
Speaker 3: I don't have a third one. I gotta tell you
Speaker 3: because of a trade that just went down, a huge
Speaker 3: trade which has massive implications. And it was the guy
Speaker 3: that I had on this list. I had Craig Kimberl.
Speaker 3: I watched Kimberl pitch the other day against the Los
Speaker 3: Angeles Dodgers. It was Walker Bueller. Kimberl didn't really look fantastic.
Speaker 3: I gotta admit to you. He didn't looked great. The
Speaker 3: White Sox kept talking about keeping him. They had not
Speaker 3: moved him. I didn't feel good about anything happening with
Speaker 3: Craig Kimberl, and I put him on this list. And
Speaker 3: then as we were recording this show, Craig Kimberl traded
Speaker 3: to the Los Angeles Dodgers for Aj Pollock. It's a
Speaker 3: massive move. So I'm cheating because he's not on the
Speaker 3: list now because that was the guy, and he jumps
Speaker 3: into that closer role. Blake Trinon is now the guy
Speaker 3: that is, So that's my pick. Blake Trinon is the
Speaker 3: guy because he's no longer the closer. He likes to
Speaker 3: even be that high leverage guy. Kimberl's the closer with
Speaker 3: the Dodgers skyrockets up and Blake Trinon moves down. Also
Speaker 3: an uptick to Gavin lux who I think might be
Speaker 3: able to take some of this playing time for Aj Pollock.
Speaker 3: So lucks up, Kimber up, Trynon down. That's my pick
Speaker 3: because I literally had to that.
Speaker 1: Thanks for all those people who took Trent in early,
Speaker 1: especially after you felt if you took him really early
Speaker 1: before the Kenley Jansen move, you felt like a million bucks,
Speaker 1: like I'm a genius. Only six days before the season
Speaker 1: to have this happen, that's just that's crushing. All right.
Speaker 1: I've got one more on my list, is yours kind
Speaker 1: of got stolen from underneath you? Why don't you take
Speaker 1: another one here?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, my last one on my list is Kamilla
Speaker 3: Daval kind of in the same range. He's a guy
Speaker 3: that's moved down. He actually could still be really interesting
Speaker 3: to draft, I would say, because I think he will.
Speaker 3: Bogmin's even said he thinks Camilla will lead the team
Speaker 3: in saves, and I believe it, but people are still
Speaker 3: drafting him pretty high. I always got on Bogman's case
Speaker 3: about doing it because there were no guarantees. They've said
Speaker 3: Jake McGee is the current closer. So from the perspective
Speaker 3: of falling down list, Kamille Deval has moved pretty far down. Kapler,
Speaker 3: you know, is he going to give away that job early,
Speaker 3: especially to a young guy, doesn't seem likely. I think
Speaker 3: McGee is going to get the opportunity for quite some
Speaker 3: time here. So Kmilla Daval was another guy that over
Speaker 3: spring has moved down.
Speaker 1: Well, she's gonna hate me for this last one. It's
Speaker 1: Jesse Winker. I just think last year was a one
Speaker 1: year wonder I do. He's always been a good contact
Speaker 1: hitter in the minor leagues, never had a lot of power.
Speaker 1: But to me, it's it's not even the Spring performance,
Speaker 1: which if you want, I could give it to you.
Speaker 1: You want to hear the spring performance twenty two ap
Speaker 1: bats point zero four or five batting average. Okay, he's
Speaker 1: not hitting anything right now, showing no power right and
Speaker 1: on top of which, he's moving now to the Seattle
Speaker 1: Ballpark away from Cincinnati. I just don't like this move.
Speaker 1: I think people are overrating him based on the fact
Speaker 1: that someone traded for him. He's a nice baseball player.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, if the power regresses and he
Speaker 1: doesn't have that same kind of run, he had a
Speaker 1: magnificent month of baseball last year and that power was fantastic,
Speaker 1: And I agree. I was in that train, going Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe Jesse Winker has turned this corner, and if he's
Speaker 1: going to turn it, Cincinnai's a hell of a place
Speaker 1: to sustain it. I'm just concerned that he can't sustain it.
Speaker 1: If he was crushing the ball this spring, maybe I
Speaker 1: would feel a little bit more comfortable arm and Fuzzy
Speaker 1: and my Tom Tom about it. But I don't, I don't,
Speaker 1: and I don't like this point zero four to five
Speaker 1: batting average and spring spring can get overrated. Well, you
Speaker 1: couple that with a move from a great power hitting
Speaker 1: ballpark to it not as great power hitting ballpark, not
Speaker 1: saying you can't hit them runs there. But Winker's been
Speaker 1: more of a contact guy than a power guy in
Speaker 1: his career either. Sometimes I left you right, he splits
Speaker 1: two against pitchers have been less than thrilling with Winker
Speaker 1: and his career. Also, I think there's a lot more
Speaker 1: risk than people realize. So that's where I am.
Speaker 3: And the only thing I don't like about it is
Speaker 3: where people are giving Brian Reynolds the pass if he's
Speaker 3: the funnest, coolest guy to draft on the planet.
Speaker 1: He is.
Speaker 3: They're the same player, Jesse Winkers are the exact same player,
Speaker 3: and right now, Jessin Winker plays on an exponentially better
Speaker 3: offensive team if you get now, if Reynolds gets straighted
Speaker 3: to the padres, that's maybe a little different story. But
Speaker 3: I just feel like there's they're the exact same guy,
Speaker 3: and everyone loves Reynolds and now everybody hates Winker. So
Speaker 3: I just don't I don't buy it.
Speaker 1: This is good. Debate is good, difference of opinion good.
Speaker 1: We shall see how this one ends up at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. But he is Team Winker. I
Speaker 1: am not. Now, we promise you at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the show, a few little draft tips here to close
Speaker 1: things out as we're heading into the final draft season
Speaker 1: where we're giving you all the tools here fantasy pros
Speaker 1: to be successful. We're giving you all the podcasts, all
Speaker 1: the YouTube stuff, all the knowledge we have, our our
Speaker 1: own little cheat sheets and our draft strategy guides. That
Speaker 1: Welsh put out that I put out, Bachmann put one
Speaker 1: out to. I think Cleig put one out there. I
Speaker 1: want to say, Mayor probably put one out there also.
Speaker 1: They probably let Yeah, they probably let Mayor they mayor.
Speaker 2: Go do something.
Speaker 1: That's what they say. Ryan on that list, Ryan Mountcastle,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's round one, Ryan Mountcastle, Round two. Uh,
Speaker 1: Ryan Moultcastle, Round three, round four, Ryan Mountcastle. Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But here's some other tips that won't want to give you.
Speaker 1: And the first one is draft good assets.
Speaker 2: And what I mean.
Speaker 1: By this is, well, that sounds really stupid, but I
Speaker 1: think people get too hung up on trying to fill
Speaker 1: out their team instead of drafting core roster strength. If
Speaker 1: the outfield market comes to you, hammer that outfield market,
Speaker 1: If the pitching market comes to you, hammer that pitching market.
Speaker 1: Whatever the value is in the draft. Over the course
Speaker 1: of the year. You can make trades, you can make
Speaker 1: waiver pickups. There's going to be movement in the league.
Speaker 1: Use your draft, especially salary cap driven drafts, to acquire
Speaker 1: good assets, because the more talent you have on your roster,
Speaker 1: the better your roster is going to be, and the
Speaker 1: better it will be over the long run as other
Speaker 1: things inevitably do happen, like injuries or miss time. I
Speaker 1: know they've changed the rules a little bit this year too,
Speaker 1: so the pitchers have to go in the IL for
Speaker 1: fifteen days, position players ten, which is good because now
Speaker 1: you're not going to that manipulation anymore that you had
Speaker 1: in the system in the last few years. But I'm
Speaker 1: telling you right now, we know the inevitability is going
Speaker 1: to happen. We're're going to lose players. Get as much
Speaker 1: talent as you can on your roster. That's what your
Speaker 1: draft is for. You'll fill out your team. Don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. It'll all work out in the end. Draft assets,
Speaker 1: especially in dynasty keeper leagues. Don't get hung up on
Speaker 1: positions so much or filling out your team. There's ways
Speaker 1: to get that done. Give me one of your draft.
Speaker 3: Well, I just want to add in I'm going to
Speaker 3: jump to my second one because I didn't read how
Speaker 3: you wrote yours. How you just said it. It's literally
Speaker 3: the same thing how I wrote mine was don't stress
Speaker 3: about positions early where people are like, ooh, I already
Speaker 3: got a short stop. I mean, you just said everything,
Speaker 3: so I don't need to repeat it. But that was
Speaker 3: my take as well, is don't worry about going nuts
Speaker 3: about roster construction and getting the best players. Plenty of
Speaker 3: great players might take two short stops in the first
Speaker 3: four rounds. You can make it work with middle and shortstop.
Speaker 2: You can do or even utility.
Speaker 1: If you've got great players on the board, take the
Speaker 1: great players.
Speaker 2: This is RPV. One on one.
Speaker 1: Create an advantage somewhere. Otherwise you're just a mediocre team
Speaker 1: in the middle.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I'm gonna move to the second one because
Speaker 3: I agree with that one of and it's kind of
Speaker 3: in line with even your second one as well. But
Speaker 3: it's take closers with actual jobs. Like there's a theory
Speaker 3: across the board, and you're going to kind of talk
Speaker 3: about it how you can treat closers. But at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, this is just a way of
Speaker 3: me saying get your closers early that you know have gigs.
Speaker 3: You can speculate and people will win. There will be
Speaker 3: winners early in drafts or in April and in waivers
Speaker 3: on guys that get some closer gigs and that you
Speaker 3: made it out of it. But you don't have to
Speaker 3: play the game. If you get involved and you get
Speaker 3: class as, or you get Haters or Hendrix or Iglesias
Speaker 3: or Craig Kimberl's, you get those guys, be the one
Speaker 3: that doesn't have to chase and doesn't have volatility and
Speaker 3: loses their gigs. Your roster construction will feel better and
Speaker 3: you won't have to chase those saves later, which again,
Speaker 3: some people can make it work. If you've got a
Speaker 3: plan and maybe you're gonna go really heavy starting pitching
Speaker 3: and you're gonna just go for cheap guys, you can
Speaker 3: do that. That's a solid pivot. But I prefer to get,
Speaker 3: especially in Rode, to get my lockdown saves guys this
Speaker 3: year that have gigs without question marks. So I'm not
Speaker 3: playing around this year and I'm getting the top closers.
Speaker 1: I was just in my head, all I kept thinking
Speaker 1: was take the card jobs mark. Yeah, they took our jobs.
Speaker 1: For me, it's don't overpay for mid tier closers, whether
Speaker 1: they have job security or not. You can find a
Speaker 1: guy laid on a bad team, maybe it's a Gregory
Speaker 1: Soto or somebody else later saves or saves at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. Yeah, some of the ratios blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, saves or saves, and those jobs are gonna
Speaker 1: turn over. They do every year. Don't pass on good
Speaker 1: quality depth in that mid like one fifty ish range
Speaker 1: for guys who may or may not be closers. It's
Speaker 1: absolute fantasy death. And my last one here for me
Speaker 1: is attack that one a slash high end SP two
Speaker 1: market this year. To me, that is a very profitable
Speaker 1: place to attack. It's that Freddie Peralta Giolito all the
Speaker 1: way down to you know, the older guys like Verlander
Speaker 1: and Charlie Morton. To me, it's okay to start your
Speaker 1: roster with two offensive players, even in a points league,
Speaker 1: and then just hammer this pitching market after that. Trevor Rodgers,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna make a huge step forward. There's
Speaker 1: a lot lot of guys in this tier that I
Speaker 1: think have huge upside to perform, like aces this year.
Speaker 1: So that's just more of a not a general strategy,
Speaker 1: it's specific for twenty twenty twenty two. Welsh, what's your
Speaker 1: last draft tip for everybody's we send them off into
Speaker 1: the weekend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna be adults. We're gonna send you off
Speaker 3: to college and you're gonna draft and you're gonna be
Speaker 3: all growns up. It's all growns up.
Speaker 1: Mikey's growns all growns up, and Welsh and I are
Speaker 1: gonna cry and have empty nest syndrome because we're so
Speaker 1: proud of you. I so far you've come.
Speaker 3: Pay attention to steals. I'm not saying overpay, and I'm
Speaker 3: not saying don't overpay. I'm saying, pay attention to steals.
Speaker 3: Watch it as it goes along in the draft. Pay
Speaker 3: attention to the people that are doing it. You can
Speaker 3: get steals all over. I tend to. Here's a nice
Speaker 3: thing about the top round guys. A lot of them steal,
Speaker 3: and I kind of want those guys because they're consistent.
Speaker 3: There's some middle guys that are gonna get you stolen bases.
Speaker 3: Frankie Lindor pay attention later in drafts. Do you have
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