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Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, everybody, Welcome to your Morning Run. This is Thursday,

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Speaker 2: December nineteenth. I'm TJ.

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Speaker 1: Owns and I'm Amy Robach and on the run this morning.

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Speaker 1: Stop us if you've heard this one before. Congress chaos

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Speaker 1: and Christmas heads are spinning in DC after a bill

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Speaker 1: to keep the government running is stopped in its tracks.

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Speaker 1: Trump and his buddy Elon are taking the blame as

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Speaker 1: we're just one day away from a shutdown.

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Speaker 2: Also, this morning, in a pretty stunning change of heart,

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Speaker 2: a House committee will release the much talked about ethics

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Speaker 2: report on former Congressman Matt Gates. He responded to the

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Speaker 2: news with a thinly veiled threat.

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Speaker 1: The alleged healthcare CEO shooter is in court this morning

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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. He could be on his way back to

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Speaker 1: New York by this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Also, the markets take up beating the likes of which

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Speaker 2: we haven't seen in fifty years after the Fed cuts

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Speaker 2: interest rates, it came with a caveat.

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Speaker 1: Plus new concerns over the bird flu after the CDC

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Speaker 1: announces the first severe case of illness linked to the virus.

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Speaker 1: That patient is in critical condition.

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Speaker 2: This morning and one month from today, TikTok is scheduled

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Speaker 2: to be shut down in the US, but the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court has now stepped in and could save the day

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Speaker 2: for one hundred and seventy million TikTok.

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Speaker 3: Users and give it away, give it away, give it away.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Did I do that right? It was at least I

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Speaker 3: went for it.

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Speaker 2: The effort was there.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about Mackenzie Scott.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, billions are burning a hole in her pocket apparently,

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Speaker 1: and she keeps getting rid of it and is setting

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Speaker 1: a new standard in philanthropy.

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Speaker 3: It was chili peppers, right, yeah, give it away, give

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Speaker 3: it away. Now.

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Speaker 2: She made me think of that. But this is pretty

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Speaker 2: incredible what Mackenzie Scott is doing with her billions over

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Speaker 2: the past several years. So that's a good one to

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Speaker 2: talk about today. But we have to begin the run

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Speaker 2: in DC, where there is once again Christmas time chaos

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Speaker 2: in Congress and the clock is ticking after a bipartisan

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Speaker 2: bill to keep the government running has fallen apart. At

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Speaker 2: midnight tomorrow night, the government will shut down unless Congress

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Speaker 2: passes some kind of spending bill.

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Speaker 1: As of yesterday, we were all under the impression it

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Speaker 1: was all good. There was a bipartisan compromise in plays

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Speaker 1: for that stopgap measure that would keep the government running

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Speaker 1: for the next few months, but the billionaire boys club,

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Speaker 1: Trump and Mosque essentially.

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Speaker 3: Killed the bill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, out of nowhere for a lot of folks in Congress,

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Speaker 2: Trump Yes, came out of nowhere and came out against it,

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Speaker 2: saying Congress should renegotiate and that the legislation should include

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Speaker 2: an increase in the national debt limit. In his words,

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Speaker 2: Republicans should call Democrats bluff. Musk, for his part, was

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Speaker 2: also critical of the bill immediately and brought much attention

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Speaker 2: to it on social media, with several posts, including one

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Speaker 2: should be voted out in two years.

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Speaker 1: Again, this is an annual holiday tradition in DC, taking

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Speaker 1: the country to the rink of a shutdown. Even the

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Speaker 1: criticism is a tradition. The bill is packed with unnecessary

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Speaker 1: and costly pet projects from members of Congress. This current

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Speaker 1: bill even includes pay.

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Speaker 3: Raises for members of Congress. So what happens now, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: no one knows. It's unclear. At this point.

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Speaker 2: They are kind of back to the drawing board. But

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Speaker 2: if you're talking about the debt limit increasing it. You're

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Speaker 2: not going to negotiate that in a day and a half.

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Speaker 2: That's just too difficult to do. So call the bluff

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Speaker 2: we heard. I wanted you. I brought your attention to

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Speaker 2: the guy on CNN and I can't remember his uh

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Speaker 2: what congressman it was. He said, well, I've seen stranger things,

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Speaker 2: and who knows what people do to get out of

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Speaker 2: here for Christmas. This is the pressure they're on it.

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Speaker 2: They just all want to go home, So we'll vote

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Speaker 2: for anything, possibly just to get out of town. Have

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Speaker 2: no idea what's gone down.

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Speaker 1: But if if your reelection chances loom and you're hearing

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Speaker 1: threats saying if you vote for this, and you have

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Speaker 1: a certain constituency that will do what Musk and Trump

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Speaker 1: say and they'll vote in that direction, that's a big

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Speaker 1: you know, that's a band aid over something that.

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Speaker 3: Could cost you your position two years from now. So

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Speaker 3: this is serious stuff.

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Speaker 2: You're saying.

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Speaker 1: They have foresight, they're actually thinking ahead. Yes, but no,

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Speaker 1: the last shutdown was in twenty eighteen. I think we've

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Speaker 2: Went about a month, so they haven't gone necessarily long

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Speaker 2: enough to do the crippling damage. But if this happens,

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Speaker 2: a shutdown happens, there are a lot of government workers

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Speaker 2: who will stop getting paid. They will get furloughed. The

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Speaker 2: essential folks, the TSA workers, the Secret service, military will continue,

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Speaker 2: but some of their pay might stuff if it goes

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Speaker 2: too long. What I'm saying, we're never at a point

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Speaker 2: so well we could take a hit of a shutdown. Never,

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Speaker 2: We're certainly not there.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I remember from twenty eighteen is I

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Speaker 1: had to have my passport renewed back then, and I

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Speaker 1: was deeply concerned because it took three months instead of

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Speaker 1: you know, the typical few weeks. So that was the

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Speaker 1: worst thing that happened last time for me.

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Speaker 2: Even when the government is running perfectly, the passport.

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Speaker 3: Situation is set up, that's the thing that we'll take it.

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Speaker 3: But it's always slow.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we'll continue now on this morning's run, and we'll

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Speaker 2: continue in the nation's capital. The public turns out, after all,

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Speaker 2: is going to see that long awaited and much debated

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Speaker 2: Matt Gates report. This time the House Ethics Committee voted

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Speaker 2: to release it. The vote this time, though, was in secret,

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Speaker 2: and it seems that maybe that made all the difference,

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Speaker 2: with some being willing to vote for its release. This

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Speaker 2: is a stunning turnaround in the committee voted to release

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Speaker 2: this three year long investigation into the former congressman.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but just last month, committee members voted in public

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Speaker 3: Not release the findings of that report.

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Speaker 1: And that report, by the way, in case you aren't

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Speaker 1: familiar with it, looks into the allegations of sexual misconduct,

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Speaker 1: one of them being with a minor and.

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Speaker 3: Illicit drug use by Gates.

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Speaker 1: Gates is no longer a member of Congress after he

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Speaker 1: name from consideration for that post. After the intense political

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Speaker 1: though Gates was no longer a Congressman or in any

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Speaker 2: What a whiplash of a month this guy has had.

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Speaker 2: So he went on social media to respond to what

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Speaker 2: the committee is now going to do in releasing the port. Now,

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Speaker 2: he denied any wrongdoing. He continues to do that. He's

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Speaker 2: done that from the beginning. He criticized the committee for

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Speaker 2: its decision, saying he has had no opportunity to debate

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Speaker 2: should have earlier in life. I live a different life now.

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Speaker 2: End quote. Okay, maybe somebody wanted to take them at

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Speaker 2: his word, and that's fine, but then he threatened. He

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Speaker 2: this way. So he's saying he would show up in Congress,

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Speaker 2: essentially saying he would come back to Congress just to raise.

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Speaker 1: Hell because he can, because he resigned from the one

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Speaker 1: the one hundred and nineteenth Congress, so he absolutely could

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Speaker 1: do what he's threatening to do. This is madness, all right. Well,

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Speaker 1: most are Republicans, by the way, argued that this issue

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Speaker 1: Gates has pointed out that a Justice Department investigation into

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Speaker 3: No word on when the committee's report.

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Speaker 1: Will officially be released, but it's expected around the time

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Speaker 3: They got a lot of other work to do.

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Speaker 1: But it's been reported that it will be released definitely

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Speaker 2: He's not going to be. I don't know what else

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Speaker 2: do we continue a Gates debate.

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Speaker 1: He does make a point though, because there are so

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Speaker 2: We will continue now on this Thursday morning run and

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Speaker 2: we are going to head to Pennsylvania now for this

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Speaker 2: in New York as early as today because Luigi Mangioni

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Speaker 2: following a manhunt in which he was identified as the

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Speaker 3: Yes, we remember.

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Speaker 1: Thompson was gunned down outside at Midtown Manhattan hotel earlier

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Speaker 1: Earlier this week of Grand Juri upgraded the charges against Mangioni,

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Speaker 1: which now include first degree murder and terrorism charges, some

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Speaker 3: So he's got several to.

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Speaker 1: Face and it looks like he will now be in

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Speaker 2: It's going to be quite the scene to have the

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Speaker 2: be back. He's actually going to be back in New York.

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Speaker 2: That's going to be a scene.

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Speaker 1: And that's why we will hopefully be headed out of

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Speaker 2: Will stay with us here on this Thursday morning run

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Speaker 2: when we come back. It was supposed to be good

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Speaker 2: news the Fed cut interest rates, but it came with

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Speaker 2: a little asterisk, and when it did, the stock markets tanks.

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Speaker 4: We'll stay with us, all right, folks.

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Speaker 2: We will continue now our Thursday morning run with this

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Speaker 2: borrowing just got a little cheaper. The Federal Reserve cut

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Speaker 1: And the hope is by cutting the rates, the government

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Speaker 1: The fate of your child's favorite social media app might

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Speaker 3: This is an incredible story.

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Speaker 2: An odd thing, the thing nobody advocates for divorce. They

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Speaker 2: It is so good. I'm not sure I got this one,

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Speaker 2: And I'm TJ. Holmes will be back with you tomorrow

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