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Speaker 1: And you can't complain about the clause of work there

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Speaker 1: I grabbed the right front tire, it was solid as

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Speaker 1: Ron and Anian, the Car Doctor, since this is where

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Speaker 1: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion

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Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal,

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Speaker 1: How much should you spend? I guess is a good

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Speaker 1: control um. Every other light works. I checked it. All

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Speaker 1: high beams work into your doing, light works, tail lights everything.

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Speaker 1: No other part of this car seems to be misfunctioning.

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Speaker 1: I adjusted the dimmer switch, figuring that might be it.

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Speaker 1: No go on that, but I'm I'm suspecting it might

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Speaker 1: what else it possibly could be. And that's that's what

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Speaker 1: I got. You got a pencil and paper. Sure, okay,

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Speaker 1: Now in a way. They don't make tracers anymore. Um,

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Speaker 1: all right. You're looking for the park lamp relay, all right.

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Speaker 1: The way park lamp relay, the way you're going to

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Speaker 1: identify it is, all right, going to the park lamp relay.

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Speaker 1: I see my twelve and a half vaults. Great, I've

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Speaker 1: So now now and this way, this way, and now

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Speaker 1: of those white blacks should have power, all right, but

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Speaker 1: That relay is grounded on the white wire? All right?

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Speaker 1: So what you could do, all right, is if you've

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Speaker 1: What's bad? Um, the relay say the problem? Say they

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Speaker 1: But but that's that's where you're headed. Uh, that's any

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Speaker 1: You don't think possibly it's the stock that has a

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Speaker 1: what happens. I'm Ron A Needing of the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Show dot com. Um, we can email the via that too.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's get over to Mike and Virginia, who's waiting

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Speaker 1: very patiently. You four camera or four camera four cylinder, Mike,

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Speaker 1: I believe this is yes, sir, okay two point four.

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Speaker 1: Tell me the long sad story, brother, because I can

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Speaker 1: They did the dognastic and said I needed UH fuel injectors.

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Speaker 1: Well I bought those and a very good at a

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Speaker 1: So at that point, prior to this, the start, the

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Speaker 1: I did certain repairs. I put new UH admission dejectors

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Speaker 1: My wife has a Yukon which I just replaced the

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Speaker 1: so listen to me. Listen to me. Um, you put

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Speaker 1: This no start correct, that's correct? All right? Have you

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Speaker 1: You know, it was that one that you would buy

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Speaker 1: So do this answer answer this question for me? Do

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Speaker 1: all right. Number two? Have you considered swapping the old

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Speaker 1: injectors back in? Because now it doesn't run? So what changed? Right?

424
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Speaker 1: What changed? Something changed? Did you do anything with wiring?

425
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 1: Did you do anything with you know, uh, ignition coils,

426
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: anything like that? Well, I saw new and ignition coils. Okay,

427
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: So let's do this all right. Let's let's treat it

428
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: like we don't know anything about this car, all right.

429
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: We need to know what is it gonna take to

430
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: make a car run? Spark, fuel, mechanical integrity, right, compression?

431
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: All right? If you pull one of those coils out

432
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 1: and put a spark plug in it, or do you

433
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: have a test spark plug? You have a test spark

434
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: plug wider gap, wider than normal gap. Ye, you do,

435
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: you have a test not not a regular spark plug.

436
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: But I'm looking for half that. But I put new

437
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: spark plugs. Yeah, that's not what I'm looking for. I'm

438
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 1: looking I want to test the ignition system. Go down

439
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 1: to your local load of parts store. All right, isn't

440
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: an Oreilly Oto parts they I know they have it,

441
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: all right, We're looking for a spark plug tester. Looks

442
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: like a spark plug with an alligator clip, uh solder

443
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 1: to the side of it, or it's gonna be I've

444
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: seen him out there. There's a there's a long black

445
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: plastic one with a thumb wheel that you turn to,

446
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: you know, change the gap to duplicate load on the

447
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: ignition system. I want you to hook that up to

448
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: one of the ignition coils. Have somebody crank the car

449
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: and look for spark all right, you know thirty thousand

450
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: volts said at the thirty thousand vaults. That's a good barometer.

451
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: It'll do more than that, but it should do at

452
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: least thirty. If you can fire a gap across a

453
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Speaker 1: thirty thousand vaults spark tester, your problem is not an ignition.

454
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: So then we've got to talk about fuel. All right.

455
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: If if you don't see spark, first thing I want

456
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: you to do. I believe it's in the underhood fuse block.

457
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: There's a fifteen amp ignition fuse that I'm wondering if you,

458
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: depending upon what coils they were, and if you were

459
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: playing around with the wiring harness, I wonder if you

460
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: just blew a fuse, you could do this real quick too.

461
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: If you've got a digital volt homemeter. Go to each

462
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: ignition coil, all right, there's there's there's gonna be I

463
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: believe it's a brown red, brown, red or blue red

464
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Speaker 1: enough four. I think it's a brown red. There's gonna

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Speaker 1: be one wire that's consistent at each coil. I believe

466
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Speaker 1: it's blue with a red trace. Brown. Maybe it's blue

467
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: or brown with a red trace. You'll see it, all right,

468
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: key on that should have that should have twelve volts

469
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Speaker 1: at it. That's battery positive. There's four wires. There's four

470
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Speaker 1: wires at each ignition coil. One's gonna be battery positive,

471
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Speaker 1: one's gonna be ground all right. The other two are

472
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Speaker 1: gonna go right to the PCM. They're white, red and

473
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Speaker 1: red white. They're each of five there, each of five

474
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Speaker 1: volts signal. So you can eliminate it like this, so

475
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: you don't even eating a wire. Color. You gotta have

476
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: one wire has gotta have key on, key on, engine off.

477
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: You've got to have twelve volts there. You've got to

478
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: have five volts at the white red and the red white,

479
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: and then the white black is going to be ground.

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00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: So what you could do is you could put your

481
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Speaker 1: voltmeter across the white black as the ground leg All right.

482
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: When you do that, take take your positive, probe your

483
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: meter and go right to the battery positive. What should

484
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: you read battery voltage right now? Now you know, you

485
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 1: just prove that the white black wire is good ground. Okay,

486
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: so you've eliminated that wire, all right, Now go to

487
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: your other three key on. What do you got? You

488
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: should have battery voltage. You should have five volts five volts.

489
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: If you don't have that, brother, you can change injectors

490
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: and anything else you want all day long. It's not

491
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Speaker 1: gonna work. All right now if you have all that, now,

492
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: I want to see it work. Now. I want you

493
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: to go get the spark tester. See you can do

494
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: that right. If you hang up the phone, I want

495
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: you to I want you to get a spark tester.

496
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: I want you to verify do you have spark output

497
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: from the coils. If you have spark output from the coils,

498
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: I may just spend I don't know, thirty bucks on

499
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: a spark tester. And now at least you have something

500
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: else in your diagnostic toolbox. All right, and now you

501
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: know ignition is good. Forget ignition. Bring me back to

502
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: my first conversation. How do you know the injectors are good?

503
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: How do you know they're right? How do you know

504
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: they're installed? Right? Not knocking you, but you gotta start

505
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: to question this. And then do you have fuel pressure?

506
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: Do you have a fuel pressure gauge? I do? I

507
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: do have full fuel pressure because the diagnostic people I

508
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: took the part too, did Yeah, but you had fuel

509
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: pressure then, I'm talking about fuel pressure now after you

510
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: touched it. Okay, all right, so do those do those things?

511
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: The clock is gonna take me. I've got to I've

512
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: got to pull over. But you do those things. I'm

513
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: here for you. Next week. You give us a call back.

514
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: We'll be glad to talk again. Mike. Good luck to

515
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: you stay, stay calm, and you'll figure it out. Go

516
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: one step at a time. Eight five five zero nine

517
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Speaker 1: zero zero. Run Nating of the Car Doctor coming back

518
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back Running in the Car Doctor

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525
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,080
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526
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: Let's go to Brian and Virginia two thousand tourists and

527
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: some lean fault codes. Brian, what's going on here? Hey, Ron,

528
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: good to talk to you again. Um, got the two

529
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: thousand four Taurus. It's my wife's. It's uhl overhead cam.

530
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: It's only got about three miles on it. It's just

531
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Speaker 1: broken in. Good something easy, just broken in, that's what

532
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: she says. So, Um, when we look at long term

533
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: fuel trims are at plus twenty five. Unless you get

534
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: around m with your foot in it accelerating, it'll it

535
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: might go down to zero and then it's back to

536
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: under cruise and short terms cold idle is between plus

537
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: two and plus thirteen, don't know. In hot idle um

538
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: cruises zero to plus ten on pedal and maybe plus

539
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,239
Speaker 1: six team. You know if you're coasting down to him,

540
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: So do this. Let's let's pay attention to short term

541
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: more than long term. Alright, um, common areas to leak.

542
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: This is a three liters motor right dual overhead? Can

543
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: you said? Yeah? So the common areas that leaked on

544
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: these were intake amountifold gas gets the PCV hose, the

545
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: the uh UM, the elbow right below the idle air

546
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: control valve on the right left right left side of

547
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: the motor down underneath the right side of the valve.

548
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: Um all common things that developed vacuum leaks. Do you

549
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: have accessibility to propane in a bottle? Uh? So, yeah,

550
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: we've done that. We've actually build a smoke machine and

551
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: uh pumped it full of smoke and the only place

552
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: we might get a whisp was at the throttle body

553
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: shaft if she moved it in the right direction, and

554
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: it was a very small whisp. Okay, you know, smoke

555
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: machine is a good start, but if it doesn't give

556
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: me my results. It doesn't tell me. I still don't

557
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: buy that there's no vacuum leak. So I'm still going

558
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: to try and look at it with propane, you know,

559
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: one of the things you could try. It's a two thousand,

560
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: So the technology probably isn't great. But if we wanted

561
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: to try and approach this from a diagnostic point of view,

562
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: at a higher level, we could look at freeze frame,

563
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: the video snapshot of when the fault code sets, and

564
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 1: you know, at least it will tell us at what

565
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,959
Speaker 1: temperature If I if I typically see a lean fuel

566
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: fault code occurring below normal thermostat opening rate, meaning below

567
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: if I see freeze frame telling me the fault code

568
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: happened somewhere around a hundred and seventy degrees. For example,

569
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna think about intake amountifold guess gets on a

570
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: Ford product, they're old rings, they shrink, they shrink, they

571
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: shrivel um, you know, and when they warm up, they

572
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: expect it actually had those at the dealer. Okay, it

573
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it was done right, doesn't mean you know,

574
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: let's face it, they took a guess, all right. You know,

575
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: too many times we sit here and say, well this

576
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,959
Speaker 1: guy did it, so we know it's not that. Did

577
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: anybody test it? I can't. I can't tell you how

578
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: many times I go over this. And I know you're

579
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: I know you're a regular listener, Brian. I won't give

580
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: you the speech, but UM, you know you've heard me

581
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: say in the shop because I forget too. I've got

582
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: peg boards of tools laying out on the shop and

583
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: I sit there and i'll sit in third band, I'll

584
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: look around. Then I'll go did I use that? Did

585
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: I do that? Did I? And I put it? We

586
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: designed it like that thirty years ago specifically, and we've

587
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: updated obviously with tools and time because things have changed.

588
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: But because it's that mental stimulation, we need a technicians

589
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 1: to sit there and say, hey, did I check this?

590
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: Check this, check this, and check this. Um, I want

591
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: to look at short term fuel trim. I want to

592
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: make sure when I'm looking at short term fuel trim

593
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: that the vehicle is clearly enclosed loop. All right? Uh

594
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: if I don't look okay, UM, just be sure because

595
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: if it's not enclosed loop and you're looking at short

596
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 1: term fuel trim, the diagnosis is skewed. It's not valid

597
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: that fault code sets based on thermostat temper you know,

598
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: opening radar, I'm sorry, engine temperatures. So the stat's got

599
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: to be right. And what the actual fuel trim editive

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00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: is being uh to the base to its base mixture.

601
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: So there's a vacuum leak somewhere. All right, This isn't magic,

602
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: you know, it's I mean, you could go through in

603
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: TESTO two censors real simple enough, just you know, give

604
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: it a shot of propane. You should see the air

605
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: fuel mixture. You should see the two center voltage pin.

606
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: If it doesn't, maybe we've got a lazy O two.

607
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: But from the sounds from my seat here, I'm gonna

608
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: be more focused on vacuum leeks. I'm gonna go sniffing

609
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: around with a bottle of propane and a pointer, trying

610
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: to pin it down, and then from there work my

611
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: way out. You know, spray the throttle shaft. What does

612
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: that do? And and that's what I'm gonna tell you

613
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: gotta do. Try those things. Call me back. I'm always

614
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: glad to talk to you again, brother zero zero. The

615
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: car doctors coming back right after this, welcome back, running

616
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: the car doctor um just kind of rolling along. Hey, Tom,

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Speaker 1: do you think next week mayb I'll put him up

618
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: on our Facebook page. I don't know worldse to put him.

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00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: Um next week, I want to I want to go

620
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: back to giving away books because the gift closet is

621
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: getting too big and the holidays are coming, and I

622
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 1: want to give away my Porship book and I want

623
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: to give away the Corvette book and anything else, like

624
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: how many have you do anything else? That? Well, if

625
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: it's dog here, that means I used that people probably

626
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 1: want it more. Maybe I'll autograph a copy and then

627
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: only take down the value. Um or it might be

628
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: worth more so um so, but anyway, uh yeah, remind

629
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Speaker 1: me next week we're gonna do that. We're gonna go

630
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: back to we got a couple of books to give away,

631
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: and you know, just just oh, we're just so busy,

632
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 1: there's so much going on. Um. We had a customer

633
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: stop by the shop yesterday. Uh, Sue stopped by the

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Speaker 1: shop and um, she's telling me about she's got this

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Speaker 1: want to talk about it here real quick if I can.

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Speaker 1: UM made me made me think about she's got this

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Speaker 1: problem with chipmunks and mice in her yard that they're

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Speaker 1: nesting in her car. She told me a story about

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Speaker 1: she was driving the car three weeks ago and she

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Speaker 1: actually had baby chipmunks falling out of the heater ducks,

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Speaker 1: which completely freaked her out. I was like, my god,

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Speaker 1: this is worse than snakes on a plane. Uh, you know.

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Speaker 1: Just so I sent her out to NHOU dot com

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire Oil Undercoating dot com. Um, they've got a

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Speaker 1: product out there, rotor repelling. I believe it's called mouse

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Speaker 1: out that you can spray around the underheard of the

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Speaker 1: vehicle and uh it's it's rotor repellent. It will work well.

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Speaker 1: And I think the important thing to remember is this

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Speaker 1: time of year you want to do that because these

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Speaker 1: animals are looking for place us to go because they're

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Speaker 1: getting ready for their long winter's nap. So NHOU dot

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Speaker 1: com if you're interested in that until the next time

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Speaker 1: I'm moninating in the car doctor reminding each and every

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Speaker 1: one of you the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See

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Speaker 1: you