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Speaker 2: got so much, so much going on today. Corbyn Carson

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Speaker 2: is covering the Rebecca Grossman trial. Rebeca Grossman, as you

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Speaker 2: might know, she's she killed an eleven year old and

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Speaker 2: an eight year old pair brothers, Mark and Jacob Iskender

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Speaker 2: September twenty twenty at a crosswalk in Westlake. She had

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Speaker 2: come out of a bar with a guy she was

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Speaker 2: dating during her marriage. Rebecca Grossman's husband is doctor Peter Grossman,

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Speaker 2: who is the founder. They are both the founders of

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Speaker 2: the Grossman Burn Center, very famous in the valley. And

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Speaker 2: apparently they were separated within the marriage and she was

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Speaker 2: at with Scott Ericsson, the former La Dodger, and had

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Speaker 2: some drinks, she had some valume in her. The prosecution

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Speaker 2: said she was going eighty one miles an hour when

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Speaker 2: she flattened these two kids and killed them. And now

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Speaker 2: the defense is trying to defend her and Corbin Carson

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Speaker 2: from KFI News was at the court today at the

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Speaker 2: court trial. Hey Carbon, Hell.

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Speaker 3: Are yeah, John, And we've been waiting for this.

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Speaker 4: We've been waiting to hear how the defense is going

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Speaker 4: to present this case for the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 4: The prosecution has been saying or presenting evidence that you

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Speaker 4: mentioned of all the different things, such as Grossmand's car

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Speaker 4: was the only car that showed pieces of that were

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Speaker 4: found at the scene, the speed that you mentioned that

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Speaker 4: was taken from the crash data from her Mercedes, at

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Speaker 4: least that's what an investigator testified to So a lot

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Speaker 4: of that evidence is now getting poked apart.

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Speaker 3: And listen, the defense's whole goal.

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Speaker 4: Here is to cast reasonable doubt on everything the prosecution

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Speaker 4: has claimed. So they've attacked the speed, the crosswalk, whether

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Speaker 4: or not the boys were in the cross which car

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Speaker 4: hit the boys, was Grossman intoxicated, and specifically the intent

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Speaker 4: or implied malices that will be needed for the two

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Speaker 4: counts of second degree murder. So basically, John, what we've

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Speaker 4: been hearing all morning is a bunch of claims. What's

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Speaker 4: interesting is followed by the defense the prosecutors saying objection

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Speaker 4: after objection, then you have a speculation, and then we'll

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Speaker 4: let him rephrase and then objection. It's back and forth,

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Speaker 4: witness and witness. The judge allows some of these claims

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Speaker 4: to go through with the experts.

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Speaker 2: Is asking loaded questions to get the idea out there

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Speaker 2: in the juror's mind, even if the judge just allows

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Speaker 4: So generally speaking, because I'm trying to put all the

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Speaker 4: witnesses together, but generally speaking a lot of the objections

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Speaker 4: that the defense has on the stand is not an

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Speaker 4: expert to talk about, you know, what she should should

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Speaker 4: she have been arrested for duy when she wasn't charged

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Speaker 4: for duy? Just different things like that, could they possibly

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Speaker 4: know that another car hit the hit the boys first?

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Speaker 4: Because remember the defense claims that ex Dodger player Scott

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Speaker 4: Erickson's car, his black SUV, also a Mercedes, hit the

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Speaker 4: boys first, and that the police never looked at that car.

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Speaker 4: So let's talk about these these different witnesses. One today

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Speaker 4: was a defense speed expert. This was an audio and

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Speaker 4: video expert named David Notowitz. He told jurors that he

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Speaker 4: examined three security videos from a home and a boat

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Speaker 4: house that's just past the crosswalk where the boys were killed.

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Speaker 4: He says, the data shows that the analysis that he

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Speaker 4: came up with shows that Grossman's Mercedes was traveling at

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Speaker 4: a significantly slower speed. He said, an examination of that

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Speaker 4: showed eventually that she was going fifty one point nine

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Speaker 4: her that was driven by Ericson was going seventy two

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Speaker 2: So that's the data recorder in her car is saying

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Speaker 2: And then this guy is looking at video footage leading

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Speaker 4: Right, and he's he's looking at that footage frame by frame,

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Speaker 4: not moving and the trees, and then figuring out the

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Speaker 4: the defense went through the math and the prosecutors picked

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot.

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Speaker 3: And I and I, and that's the intent.

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Speaker 2: The kids are still dead, though this is fascinating math exercise.

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Speaker 2: But she hit the kids, and the kids are dead.

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Speaker 2: Exactly what speed doesn't really.

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Speaker 4: Matter the allegedly she hit the kids, because we're you know,

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Speaker 4: that is still for a jury to decide. And keep

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Speaker 4: in mind another expert that they brought up with it

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Speaker 4: was this private investigator for the defense who told the

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Speaker 4: jury that five pieces of vehicle debris from the crash scene,

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Speaker 4: including two Mercedes Benz emblems, went missing. And that's part

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Speaker 4: of their defense that you know, this black suv that

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Speaker 4: saying that, you know, no one looked at Ericson, that

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Speaker 4: first because he was going through the intersection, but two

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Speaker 1: I didn't find any debris from ass car.

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Speaker 4: Now, if five pieces are missing, what they're trying to

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Speaker 3: Again reasonable doubt that's the idea here.

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Speaker 1: But was there any damage on Ericson's car?

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Speaker 4: Well that has been We're still waiting to learn exactly

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Speaker 4: what's going on with Ericson's car and why he hasn't

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Speaker 4: been brought up in you know, either by called by

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Speaker 4: the prosecution or so far by the defense. But what

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Speaker 4: we Another guy that we heard from today was this

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Speaker 3: He talked about the gambit. I mean, he talked.

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Speaker 4: About how he wouldn't have had arrested her for because

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Speaker 4: she didn't appear intoxicated. She went, He went through this

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Speaker 4: whole litany of you know, the arresting officer didn't say

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Speaker 3: Weren't you know, shifting this way or that way.

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Speaker 4: He also talked about the speed doesn't mean you would

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Speaker 4: necessarily killed someone. He brought up that there is no

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Speaker 4: that shows that they're you know, they're they're lower crash

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Speaker 3: That's not not necessarily an indicator.

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Speaker 2: Accept that that's what we're going through, except the boys are dead.

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Speaker 2: Of course, you could speed and not kill the people.

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Speaker 2: It goes out all day long.

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Speaker 4: But in this case, no one's arguing that the dales

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Speaker 4: They're arguing who hit the kids first. That's that's the

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Speaker 4: discrepancy here is they're arguing that the investigation wasn't run properly,

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Speaker 4: that the sobriety check, the sobriety field test given to

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Speaker 4: missus Grossman was not run properly. Yeah, I mean you

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Speaker 4: got a traffic engineer that testified. I mean some of

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Speaker 4: these people are coming in for just a second or two.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I understand, you're just giving me what's

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Speaker 2: going on in the courtroom. I just find this insane.

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Speaker 2: She's got all the damage on her car. Her airbags

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Speaker 4: And also she didn't touch she didn't touch the brakes.

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Speaker 4: They had a human factors expert. This is a guy

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Speaker 3: People really are.

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Speaker 4: He wrote a book about it, and then he attacked

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Speaker 4: the first the prosecutor's crash investigator testimony, showing that she

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Speaker 4: barely touched the brakes. I don't remember you might remember

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Speaker 4: box data showed she touched it like barely one point

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Speaker 4: eighty five percent of normal driver would have seen something

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Speaker 3: And hit the brakes further.

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Speaker 4: And his whole point of his testimony was saying, well, hey,

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Speaker 4: they're using a study where a bunch of college kids

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Speaker 3: They felt safe and they weren't in shock.

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Speaker 4: And of course, you know, if you've been doing that

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Speaker 4: He was saying that people under stress, people under shock,

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Speaker 2: You know, I got to get into the expert witness racket.

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Speaker 2: That is the way to God. That is just it's

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Speaker 2: just funny. It's it's just all this this dust that

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Speaker 2: they're kicking up in the air, but it all gets

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Speaker 2: away from the damage on her car and the boys

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Speaker 2: are dead dead on the road and they're talking about

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Speaker 2: everything else but that.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: And listen, you know she has a right to have

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Speaker 4: Allowed to bring up witnesses that dispute what right, that

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Speaker 3: And that's where we're at. We've we've had several.

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Speaker 2: All right, Corebn, very good, thank you for coming on,

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Speaker 2: much appreciated. Go through all that in court, because I

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Speaker 3: It is compelling stuff.

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Speaker 4: I will I will say that it is compelling stuff

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Speaker 4: And I feel for the jurors who have to take

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Speaker 4: all this information in both sides and then make a

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Speaker 4: these charges. Remember that each one of these charges, again,

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Speaker 4: thirty fourths to life. If they can't do if they

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Speaker 4: can't prove the murder and she only gets vehicular homicide,

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Speaker 4: maybe that's a much drastically reduced sentence.

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Speaker 3: So that's why they're going.

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Speaker 4: Through each piece to figure out the proper guilt and

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Speaker 4: sentence if possible, or not guilty sentence for Rebecca Grossman.

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Speaker 2: All right, Corvin Carson cafin knew is thank you Rebecca

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Speaker 2: Grossman trial. We've got one thousand dollars to give away.

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Speaker 2: Coming up at two thirty. Oh my god, we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk again with Chris Legras. He's an activist. You

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Speaker 2: really really have got to pay attention on the ballot.

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Speaker 2: There is one citywide referendum in Los Angeles on the ballot,

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Speaker 2: and if you don't vote it down, you are going

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Speaker 2: constricted traffic all over the city. Eventually, it's one of

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Speaker 2: the most important things to vote against, along with the

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Speaker 2: George gascon that's coming up after two thirty. And right

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Speaker 2: after the contest, I'm going to tell you about a

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Speaker 2: private school in LA that had to close because of

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Speaker 2: Karen Bass's Los Angeles, you're.

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Speaker 2: This is a terrible story here. There's a school called

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Speaker 1: The thing is, the homeless.

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Speaker 2: Are allowed to do whatever they want inside these city shelters.

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Speaker 2: Kids how crazy is that She's been trying to take

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Speaker 2: They put them in a building where there's a school.

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Speaker 2: spokeshole something called Clara Carger said that Bess's team has

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Speaker 2: I see you have concerns. Yeah, have concerns. You got

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Speaker 2: We had an intruder high on LSD enter our classrooms,

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Speaker 2: what a disgusting decrepit city Bess has created here?

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Speaker 1: Huh?

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Speaker 2: I thought she was fixing things. I thought things were

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Speaker 1: Have to leave, right the notice this.

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Speaker 2: The kids have to leave, not the crack addicts, not

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Speaker 1: Yikes.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna have Dana Hammond on tomorrow to talk

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Speaker 1: Or what? Can she be? A bigger failure? Can't she?

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Speaker 2: If you get a call from a guy who runs

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Speaker 1: Don't you do that immediately?

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Speaker 2: It's a guy who runs a school calling you, Well,

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Speaker 2: he's trying to address his concerns. Boy, I tell you

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Speaker 2: they're not only corrupted city Hall, they're insane. But you know,

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Speaker 2: everybody votes for insane politicians. Everybody votes for people well

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Speaker 2: who are good at lying as long as you have

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Speaker 2: a happy smiley face. Just have a happy smiley face.

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Speaker 2: If you can fake that, we come back. Here's another one.

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Speaker 2: You must vote against Measure HLA. If you're in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Chris Legras. He's with Keep

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Speaker 2: LA Moving. It's an activist group. This is about a

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Speaker 2: measure that is going to shrink your roads. It's a

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Speaker 2: LA Fire Department is really angry with this because the

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Speaker 2: so we can have more bike lanes in places that

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Speaker 2: KFI twenty four hour newsroom.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobell on demand from KFI Am

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Speaker 2: One of the most aggravating things is the return of

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Speaker 2: something really dangerous and insidious. It's going on the ballots measure, HLA.

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Speaker 2: It's just in the city of La Is that correct.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: We've got Chris Lagrasse sitting here. He's been with us

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Speaker 2: which Chris is going to explain. So please, please, you

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Speaker 2: want to vote against this thing. Chris welcome again to

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Speaker 2: put turn his mic on if you would. Zech thanks

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Speaker 2: for having Uh there we got are okay? For most

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Speaker 2: but we got to keep hitting the basics first. So

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Speaker 2: what is measure HLA? What's it is it going to do?

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Speaker 2: In its simplest form, Well, you you summed it up perfectly.

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Speaker 2: I mean it would every time street services repaves or

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Speaker 1: I mean that's a block.

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Speaker 6: They would be mandated under the city municipal They would

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Speaker 6: it could be traffic calming.

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Speaker 1: That's part of the problem is they, even the.

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Speaker 6: Advocates, even the people who put this together, cannot tell

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Speaker 2: Let's take a hypothetical here, Wilshire Boulevard. I think everybody

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Speaker 6: Yes, but it's even worse than that because to get there,

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Speaker 6: they're going to be going one block at a time.

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Speaker 6: So again, Let's take Wilshire Boulevard. You could be driving

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Speaker 6: accidents that's going to cause. And we already know and

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Speaker 6: people can find the data at keep la moving dot com.

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Speaker 6: Every time they've done this, the advocates say that we

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Speaker 6: Blah blah blah. That's nonsense. We've been doing this for

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Speaker 1: It would be absolute chaos.

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Speaker 6: This morning, as you guys covered, we were downtown at

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Speaker 2: Yet Ela Fire Department has come out very loudly against this.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, they had. We were down there with them.

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Speaker 6: This morning, we had the heads of the three major

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Speaker 1: But they came out in force.

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Speaker 6: The advocates had the audacity to show up and protest

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Speaker 2: Are they really concerned with public safety? I mean, what

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Speaker 6: Is part of the extremism that this is part of

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Speaker 1: That's where this is all heading.

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Speaker 6: The goal of these extremist lunatics who are running our

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Speaker 1: We will get rid of our cars and we will live.

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Speaker 6: Everything we need will be a fifteen minute walk, bike

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Speaker 1: And what motivates them is just power is our lives.

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Speaker 1: I describe it as a religion. These are religious fundamentalists.

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Speaker 6: If you can stand out in front of a fire

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Speaker 6: Imagine how many thousands of Angelinos are alive because of

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Speaker 2: Why would you slow down rescue workers, why would you

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Speaker 1: I guess it's collateral damage.

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Speaker 6: We know that since we started this nonsense HLA, which

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Speaker 6: we've already been doing this, as I said, for fifteen years.

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Speaker 6: Eric Arseti started his vision zero nonsense in twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 6: He promised us, he stood out there on Venice Boulevard,

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, because when the obstacles they put in the way,

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Speaker 2: and we've talked about this before, it's all on display

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Speaker 2: in Santa Monica. Santa Monica is very difficult, very distracting

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Speaker 2: to get through, especially at night. Yes, and I could

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Speaker 2: believe it's causing more accidents and more pedestrian deaths because

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Speaker 2: you don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 6: And here's the killer is that no pun intended, is

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Speaker 6: that the United States, in Los Angeles and California, between

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Speaker 6: nineteen eighty and twenty ten, we had a thirty year decrease.

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Speaker 6: Almost every single year, we hit record low pedestrian fatalities

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Speaker 6: in the United States in the Los Angeles in two

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Speaker 6: thousand and eight and two thousand and nine. In the

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Speaker 6: years since, starting in twenty fifteen, no coincidence that it

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Speaker 6: starts with Vision zero and Complete Streets ten nine years ago,

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Speaker 6: we have actually lost all of that.

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Speaker 1: Gain. We are actually back. We have now set records.

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Speaker 1: We've erased thirty to forty years worth of progress, well

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Speaker 1: beginning eight years, nine years.

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Speaker 2: Because I always take issue with the premise with some

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Speaker 2: of these organizations, they have a cover story, They have

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Speaker 2: a front Oh, we're going to save lives, And I'm thinking,

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Speaker 2: why do you want to save my life so much

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Speaker 2: if I crossed the street? Really, you're devoting your whole existence.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I assume they're getting paid.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: Secondly, there's something larger here. There's a larger political issue

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Speaker 2: is that they've embraced and that's where they get the

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Speaker 2: fanaticism from. And one of it is getting automobiles off

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Speaker 2: the road and creating these fifteen minute cities where we're

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Speaker 2: going to live and downstairs there's going to be a

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Speaker 2: whole Foods and then we're going to bike.

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Speaker 1: To our office two blocks away and there.

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Speaker 2: They get really jazzed by the idea of creating this

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Speaker 2: imaginary city that we're all and we're all going to

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Speaker 2: obey their rules. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And they are very very well funded. We are

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Speaker 6: the grassroots, we're volunteers. These firefighters are doing it on

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Speaker 6: their own time. I will tell you that they have

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Speaker 6: at least two million dollars they're getting funded from a

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Speaker 6: New York based edge fund. Managers names Aaron Sasnk. We've

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Speaker 6: talked about him in the pot. Yes, that looked him up.

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Speaker 6: Why is a New York based hedge fund manager spending

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Speaker 6: two million dollars to mess with the streets in Los Angeles?

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Speaker 1: What out of the goodness of his heart? No?

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Speaker 6: No, Now, maybe he's one of these kool aid drinkers.

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Speaker 6: Maybe he's a true believer, one of these fundamentalists. Or

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Speaker 6: maybe he sees insane amounts of money to be made

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Speaker 6: investing in large real estate companies and contractors and consultants

487
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Speaker 6: and architects and everybody who's going to make bank should

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Speaker 6: this ever come to pass. So I think, you see,

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Speaker 6: people billionaires are not noted for their altruism. I think

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Speaker 6: this guy sees a market opportunity and two million dollars

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Speaker 6: is a small price to pay.

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Speaker 2: Now, real estate developers are behind forcing apartment buildings into

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Speaker 2: single family home neighbor of it. It's the same thing.

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Speaker 2: They're the ones financing this. It's not a bunch of environmentalists.

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Speaker 2: It's the real estate to investment crowd.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And they have their idiots and Healthy Streets LA and

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Speaker 6: Streets for All and streets Blog. They have this whole

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Speaker 6: ecosystem that people like sosnic Fun. I guarantee you many,

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Speaker 6: if not most, of the protesters who showed up today

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Speaker 6: were being paid.

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Speaker 1: Well, of course, Yeah, who's got what time was this?

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Speaker 1: It was nine am? Yeah, who's got time at nine

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Speaker 1: in the morning? Right to go? Protest to go?

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Speaker 2: Protest firemen who want to get out of their fire

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Speaker 2: station as quickly as possible.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine that? And I'll tell you John.

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Speaker 6: A couple of those speakers got emotional talking about some

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Speaker 6: of the scenes they've experienced over the course of their careers.

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Speaker 6: I was driving home, driving back from the event this morning,

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Speaker 6: and two LAPD cars came risen by me seventy miles

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Speaker 6: an hour, lights and sirens. I got the hell out

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Speaker 6: of the way, and a few minutes later I passed

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Speaker 6: to school. I'm not going to say where where They

515
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Speaker 6: were arresting a guy across the street from the school. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: we're across the street from the entrance of the school.

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Speaker 6: What happens if there was a road diet on that

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Speaker 6: street and we had five more minutes?

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Speaker 2: Chris, thank you for coming on and we'll talk again soon, okay,

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Speaker 2: because we've got three weeks and it's you have to

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Speaker 2: vote no on h L all right, h LA, that's

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Speaker 2: the name of the proposition. You vote no on it

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Speaker 2: if they want to strangle the traffic system here in

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles. And this is a city thing. This is

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Speaker 2: a city thing. So if you're voting, and the LA

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Speaker 2: City firefighters have come out very loudly against it today

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Speaker 2: with for for obvious reasons. Oh yeah, yeah, there's so

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Speaker 2: many things to fight. I know, I know, exhaust that's everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Chris, thank you so much. When we come back.

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Speaker 2: Another thing, we got to fight Gascon. Uh CBS News

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Speaker 2: did a long report on Gascon. We're going to play

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Speaker 2: the whole thing, and then after we play it, we're

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Speaker 2: going to have John Lewin on one of the deputy

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Speaker 2: das because he's going to rebut this story. You got

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Speaker 2: to listen to it first.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A

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Speaker 5: M six forty.

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Speaker 1: All right, two parts to this one.

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Speaker 2: Uh CBS News did a story on George Gascon and

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Speaker 2: John Lewin was so incensed by it that he wants

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Speaker 2: to come on after the story, after we play it

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Speaker 2: and rebut the thing.

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Speaker 1: So first we're going to play you this is this

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Speaker 1: is long, seven minutes.

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Speaker 2: We don't do this very often, but this this is

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Speaker 2: this is a big deal here. Uh, let's see how

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Speaker 2: how CBS News played Gascon and see what it is

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Speaker 2: that John Lewin wants to say about it. John will

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Speaker 2: come on after Debra's news and we'll play this before

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Speaker 2: her news. In fact, it'll start right now. Two officers killed.

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Speaker 3: They were murdered by a coward suspect.

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Speaker 1: Out on probation.

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Speaker 3: He has these officers blood.

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Speaker 7: On their hands.

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Speaker 8: The family's hands quickly finger the district attorney.

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Speaker 1: He's responsible for my son's death and Michael's death.

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Speaker 7: Does that case still haunt you?

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Speaker 9: Listen anytime does somebody dies, It is very emotional.

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Speaker 1: It is the single emotional moment.

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Speaker 8: And George Gascon's tenure that touches every issue of his

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Speaker 8: first term.

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Speaker 1: And clearly still touches him.

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Speaker 7: The mother of one.

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Speaker 10: Of the officers said that you personally are responsible for

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Speaker 10: those centers.

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Speaker 1: I understand that.

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Speaker 9: It breaks my heart. I think assault and civilization right.

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Speaker 9: There's nothing that I can say that will bring him back,

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Speaker 9: and I feel very, very sorry for the family.

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Speaker 8: The family filed suit alleging suspect Justin Flores, a felon

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Speaker 8: who was once found with a gun, wouldn't have been

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Speaker 8: out of jail but for Gascone's broad sentencing reforms. Gascone disagreed.

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Speaker 9: I believe that I was saying a propriate because there

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Speaker 9: was no other things that he was dangerous.

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Speaker 7: Would you make that same decision again?

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Speaker 9: I can tell you that that decision not only would

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Speaker 9: be made the same in this office, would be made

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Speaker 9: like that in many other places.

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Speaker 8: But in this place, on these streets, it made for

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Speaker 8: many protests.

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Speaker 7: They say you're soft on crime?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 7: Are you soft on crime?

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Speaker 9: People say, well, you are because you're not seeking one

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Speaker 9: hundred years, you're seeking twenty years.

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Speaker 7: And you're not seeking the death penalty.

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Speaker 9: And I'm not seeking the death penalty.

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Speaker 7: Right, so you have the numbers to prove that you're

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Speaker 7: not soft on crime.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, do we do with us. We can share you.

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Speaker 9: We can share with you the number of prosecutions. Will

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Speaker 9: give you ten years of rates of filing cases, ten

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Speaker 9: years of the way that we've prosecuted cases.

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Speaker 8: His office provided this graph showing actual filings have dropped

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Speaker 8: by more than five thousand cases in those ten years.

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Speaker 8: They believe the downward trend those started before Gascon took

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Speaker 8: office and is statistically insignificant, and even before his office prosecutes.

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Speaker 8: There's the issue of bail or no bail that puts

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Speaker 8: non violent offenders back on the streets.

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Speaker 9: Is that my nobail policy is the court's nobail policy.

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Speaker 10: That is true, But for people that don't know, it's

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Speaker 10: your prosecutors that also recommend to the court, and then

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Speaker 10: the court decides.

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Speaker 9: And we and we we look at the cases very carefully.

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Speaker 9: I'm absolutely against cash bell and I'm against cash bill

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Speaker 9: because I don't think how much money you have in

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Speaker 9: your bank account makes you safer.

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Speaker 7: Do you believe in no bail?

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Speaker 9: I believe that people that are dangerous should be held

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Speaker 9: without any bail.

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Speaker 8: His policies, practices, even promotions, have led to twenty one

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Speaker 8: lawsuits from his own prosecutors.

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Speaker 1: Our district attorney, and.

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Speaker 8: With a campaign website still loaded with these images of

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Speaker 8: police brutality, there are those who say he's anti police.

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Speaker 8: Has recently promoted chief of staff, was once photographed wearing

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Speaker 8: this message.

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Speaker 7: Do you think the police are trained to kill us? Look?

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Speaker 9: I understand where you're coming from, you know, I know

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Speaker 9: that they have been a lot of criticism about my

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Speaker 9: chief of staff. It's an ugly moment in policing. And

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Speaker 9: she spoke out of emotional language. My judgment is that

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Speaker 9: I want to have a variety of opinions around one

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Speaker 9: The people that I surround myself with, the former Chief

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Speaker 9: of Police Capacity, former Chief of Polica Erwindelle, the former

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Speaker 9: assistant chief all, a former deputyy from LAPDS, around the

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Speaker 9: Valley Bureau. Those are all people also that are on

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Speaker 9: office eight Gasto.

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Speaker 8: He himself is the former chief of three agencies and

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Speaker 8: a former assistant chief at LAPD. But none of it

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Speaker 8: has stopped. Two recall attempts.

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Speaker 10: Were surprised by the two recall attempts, the first one

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Speaker 10: happening just days after you were in office.

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Speaker 9: I was for the second one. I was surprised when

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Speaker 9: they failed so misserily on the first time, and they

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Speaker 9: went at it again.

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Speaker 10: Do you think it just the idea of two recalls

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Speaker 10: was damaging?

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Speaker 7: He is damaging.

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Speaker 9: Well, look, I mean when you put ten million dollars

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Speaker 9: to try to be fame somebody, that's going to have

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Speaker 9: an impact.

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Speaker 8: Those failed recalls still he believes impacting his re election.

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Speaker 9: We are showing that we can hold people accountable in.

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Speaker 8: A historic field of eleven challengers. The first major polls

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Speaker 8: showing Gascone leading with only fifteen percent of likely voters,

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Speaker 8: followed closely by Jonathan to Tommy at eight percent and

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Speaker 8: Nathan Hakman with four percent.

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Speaker 7: Those are low poll numbers for an incumbent.

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Speaker 9: They are, but you're in a we're on the eleven

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Speaker 9: people I think twelve people race now.

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Speaker 8: And he's far behind in the fundraising for that race.

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Speaker 8: Have you almost four times less than the one point

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Speaker 8: five million dollars Hockman has raised and is spending now

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Speaker 8: on attack ads, sparking rampants, smashing grab rob race, an

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Speaker 8: explosion of overdose deats.

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Speaker 7: What do you think looking at that?

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Speaker 9: Well? Look, I mean, first of all this ising will playbook.

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Speaker 7: Are you responsible for the rise in smashing grabs?

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Speaker 9: Well, if that were the case, and I would be

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Speaker 9: responsible for the smashing grab race all over the nation, right,

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Speaker 9: I mean, I will be pretty powerful.

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Speaker 8: For during the powerful rise we documented just weeks ago,

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Speaker 8: they were going to look at the Nike on pch

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Speaker 8: and Crenshaw. Gascone dedicated prosecutors to a multi agency task force.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, every one, and has.

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Speaker 8: Now announced more than two hundred prosecutions since August.

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Speaker 7: Is the tide turning?

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Speaker 9: You know? I think if you listen to the LAPD,

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Speaker 9: I've heard him say that they have seen a reduction.

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Speaker 9: We're definitely pushing really hard for the time.

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Speaker 10: How important are moments like this for you to communicate

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Speaker 10: directly with the public.

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Speaker 9: It's terribly important, not only for me, but for everyone

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Speaker 9: Loos people that are.

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Speaker 8: Here, for everyone across La County. Major crime is down.

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Speaker 9: We actually have had the largest reduction of one year

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Speaker 9: homicide in just this recent year.

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Speaker 10: Bottom line, our Angelina's safer now under you than they were.

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Speaker 7: Four years ago.

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Speaker 9: Well, they're definitely safer to the we're in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: So much has happened since twenty twenty?

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Speaker 7: Did that change you as a DA?

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Speaker 9: Look every time that we lose a police officer, beful,

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Speaker 9: they're saying amount of reflection, There is no question about it.

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Speaker 8: And now George, he says, reflection is helping him.

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Speaker 7: How are you different now than you were when you

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Speaker 7: took the oath?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm three years older.

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Speaker 9: I think I learned a tremendous I'm on, there's certainly

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Speaker 9: a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of girls growing and learning from his own history and

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Speaker 1: congratulation District attorney.

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Speaker 8: And now seeing this moment as only the beginning four.

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Speaker 9: More years, well hopefully four more years. It's you know,

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Speaker 9: the public of the public.

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Speaker 8: Guess me, Our honor of Gascon is currently the front

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Speaker 8: runner in this historic race. By the way, the lawsuit

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Speaker 8: from the families of the Elmone officers lost emotion to

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Speaker 8: proceed because Gascon was acting in his official capacity, but

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Speaker 8: they are planning to appeal.

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Speaker 1: He's growing and learning.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the statistic that came out earlier this

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Speaker 2: week after that story ran is that shoplifting is up

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Speaker 2: eighty one percent in La County. Eighty one percent, eighty percent. Josh,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. John Lewin is coming up next. He's going

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Speaker 2: to respond to this CBS story on Gascon and specifically

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Speaker 2: what Gascone was saying. He's a Deputy DA, he's been

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Speaker 2: very outspoken against Gascon and he'll be with us right

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