1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna move the sticks. 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 3: I am Bucky Brooks, and you'll notice that my guy, 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 3: my co host, Daniel Jeremia, is not on the podcast today. 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: He is out doing his business with the Chargers. It 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: was a big day in LA because justin Herbert Sons deal. 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: So he's out there taking care of that. But I 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: have an opportunity to. 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 3: Go one on one with one of my favorite coaches, 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: Lincoln Raleigh from USC and so this is a little 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: bit of our conversation where we cover a lot of 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 3: ground talking about quarterbacks and team building and a new era. 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 3: Take a listen, Coach Man. So excited to have you on. 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: But we've had a tragic loss since the last time 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: we talked. And I know how much Mike Leach was 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: impactful on you your coaching career and all that. Just 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: talk a little bit about him and like just the 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: lifetime impression that. 19 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: He left on you as a coach. 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a huge loss for obviously family, for 21 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: a lot of us, his colleagues, friends personally, just kind 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: of a shock, you know, one of those kind. 23 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 4: Of figures in your life. That you feel like it's 24 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 4: always going to be. 25 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: There, and. 26 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it brings back a lot of a lot 27 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: of great memories. Obviously he opened doors for for myself 28 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: and so many of us other coaches. 29 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 4: His coaching tree. 30 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: Is pretty well documented and really pretty unbelievable for the 31 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: amount of time that he was a head coach of 32 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: what all these different people have been able to go 33 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: out and do. 34 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 4: Had a huge impact on the game. 35 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: You look at how the game's played now today, you know, 36 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: primarily from the shotgun. You know, the way the passing 37 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: games evolved at really all all levels of football to 38 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: being such a primary primary part of the game. 39 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 4: You know, Mike had an impact on that. And then 40 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 4: on top of it. 41 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, things I'll miss the most, the crazy stories, the 42 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: fun experiences, the late hours together. 43 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 4: They had too many really to count. 44 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: You know, Coach, though, I've heard you talk on another 45 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: show about Mike Leash's simplicity and the attention to detail. 46 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: And I don't know if years ago you remember you 47 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: and I talked and I talked about how you were 48 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 3: able to score so many points but the little index 49 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: card and all those things. But I heard the story 50 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 3: about how I guess you guys practiced for verticals. 51 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: One day the entire day like that was all we're doing. 52 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 3: Can you talk a little bit about like just that 53 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 3: philosophy in terms of being simple but being so detailed 54 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: that it doesn't really matter what the other team does. 55 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 2: You just have so much confidence in what you guys do. 56 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: And Mike was really a master of that. There was 57 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: our game planning sessions. There were not we were game planning, 58 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: but it was just more what formation we're going to. 59 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 4: Run four verts out of this week? I mean it was. 60 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: That was about the extent of it's but it was 61 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: a great lesson I think for all of us that 62 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: came up in that because we as coaches, we can 63 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: make the mistake of outsmarting ourselves or at times out 64 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: smarting our players. And you know, deep down you want 65 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: to you competitively, you want to do your part, you 66 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: want to have your impact, and you feel like this 67 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: push at times to do something new and in reality 68 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: teach what you do very well, like you said, build 69 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: up their confidence and then the guy's ability to take 70 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: that and go go apply that in pressure situations and 71 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: really be able to execute a. 72 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: High level like that. That's that's what he built. 73 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: It upon and yeah, and you and you saw it. 74 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: It really withstood the test of time. I mean it's 75 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: from you know, Kentucky and and and where where he 76 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: was with how mommy those early years all the way 77 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: on to Mississippi State. Here at the end, offense was 78 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: always relevant, it was always productive, and. 79 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 4: It did not change much. And but he was very, 80 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 4: very committed to it. And that's why it worked so 81 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 4: well for all those years. 82 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: You know. 83 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: So as much as I love the simplicity and the 84 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: attention to detail and those things, I am just blown 85 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: away by the master of your offense and the things 86 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: that you guys have been able to do throughout your 87 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: time as a play caller. Why you take like that 88 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: air raid system and then add your own piece to 89 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: it when it comes to the counter and the GT 90 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: pools and all that other stuff. Talk about finding your 91 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 3: own identity as a play caller after working for a 92 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: guy who was known as one of the best play 93 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: calls play designers in football. 94 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know. 95 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: The other thing Michael was great about teaching I think 96 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: all of us was not being afraid to think outside 97 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: the box and don't don't really worry about the status quo. 98 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: Or what people have done before. Just do what you 99 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: think is best and don't be afraid to take those risks. 100 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: And see a lot of mine't really involved. And we 101 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: got East Carolina and we were playing teams there that 102 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: were a lot more talented than us, a lot bigger schools, 103 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: and we had to we had to find ways to 104 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: win games. And I always felt like when I got 105 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: a chance to call plays that I, you know, wanted 106 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: to run game to be a little bit more of 107 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: a factor for us than it was for in the 108 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: Texas Tech heres with Mike. And so with that, yeah, 109 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: we we just started evolving. Was lucky enough along the way, 110 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, at all the stops to work with some 111 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: really creative guys in the offensive staff room. And yeah, 112 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: it's just it's continually evolved, and it's been a lot 113 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: of fun. We've still tried to lean back on some 114 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: of the the the early concepts and that early mentality 115 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: of getting really good at the things you believe in, 116 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: but then also having enough wrinkles too to be able 117 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: to change it up when we need to. And it's, uh, 118 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: it's been fun to see it evolved throughout the years 119 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: and been fun to do it with a group of 120 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: people that I've been lucky enough to work with. 121 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: You know, we can't talk about the offense in terms 122 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: of your evolution as a play caller, the evolution of 123 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 3: the offense without talking about the quarterbacks. You've been around 124 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: some great quarterbacks, coach, and I mean we just the 125 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 3: list goes on and on from Baker and Kyler, Jalen 126 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: Hurts and now you have another one and Kayleb Williams. 127 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 3: Uh what is it about Kayleb Williams that is hip? 128 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: You take this offense to an even higher level. 129 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been it's been a fun journey, you know, 130 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: up to this point. With Caleb, he's uh, he's got 131 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: some similar to the other guys. 132 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 4: He's also got some differences. 133 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: It's it's uh, it's been a fun skill set to 134 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: work with really from the very beginning. And that you know, 135 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: he committed to us pretty fairly early in the recruiting process, 136 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: so you know that relationship started developing from the very beginning. 137 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: And and uh, to see how he's grown, he's progressed, 138 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: he's matured as a leader, a competitor. How he's you know, 139 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: really gone from a young guy just taking it all 140 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: in to a guy that really has a good grasp 141 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: of what we're trying to do offensively. Uh, it's been 142 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: fun to be a part of that evolution. And the 143 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: great thing about this guy is he he's he's still 144 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: extremely hungry, you know, and he's still very young in 145 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: terms of himself, the player and his quarterback career. He's 146 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: got a long ways to go and and a lot 147 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: of ways to improve, which is exciting. 148 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 4: So now he's been a lot of fun to work with. 149 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: It's it's been great to have him out here with 150 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: us at at usc UH and see the impact that 151 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: he's made in the locker room here and and some 152 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: of the changes that have you know, happened there in 153 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: a short amount of time. 154 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 4: He's certainly done his. 155 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: Part, you know, and thinking about doing your party coach 156 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 3: you to it s see like, now you know the 157 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: land of land, you understand the West Coast, you understand 158 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: the school and the traditions and those things. How much 159 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: better do you feel going into this season as opposed 160 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: to last season? 161 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm so excited. 162 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: I am. 163 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: I mean last year was a great, great start for 164 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: this program and for this group of people. There was 165 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: so much energy you take like la is a place 166 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: as we've learned, and you know, a lot of us 167 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: know like you have to prove it here, right, People 168 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: are not just going to show up because like to anything, like, 169 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: you have to. 170 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: Prove that it's worth people's time. 171 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: But when you do, man, do they support it in 172 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: The atmospheres that are created are so special. And you 173 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: know early in the season, you know you've you've felt 174 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: that that all right, are these guys for real? Is 175 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: this really going to be a successful team? Can this 176 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: really start to take off? Man? 177 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 4: By the end of the. 178 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: Season, Like our Notre Dame game, last game there at 179 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: the Coliseum was just electric, and I think just a 180 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: taste of what this can be here. 181 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 4: And the fun thing is, I still really believe we're 182 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 4: at the tip of. 183 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: The iceberg and there's so much left to accomplish here 184 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: because it is so unique, it's such an incredible setting. 185 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: The advantages that you have here for coaches and players 186 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: are so significant that I think we all since we're 187 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: on the cusp but doing something really really special and 188 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: we're all privileged to be a part of it. 189 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 4: And it's just an excitement energy around. 190 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: The building every day that you just can't wait for 191 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: the season to get here, You can't wait for practice 192 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: to get started, and hopefully we can continue to build 193 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: on it, you. 194 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 2: Know, coach and thinking about building. 195 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: Look, I have to tip my cap to you because 196 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: I can't imagine how hard it is to build a. 197 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: Team in the transfer portal era. 198 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: How are you able to build the connectivity that we 199 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 3: oh it is necessary to play at a championship level 200 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: while dealing with so many moving parts and new people 201 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: coming in. 202 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 2: How you've been able to embrace that challenge. 203 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: You have to get the right people like that, you 204 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: have to have a plan, you have to have everybody 205 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: else the same page. But you can have the right plan. 206 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: You can organize it all you want. If you don't 207 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: have the right people, it's not going to be successful. 208 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: And we got the right staff. We have a tremendous staff. 209 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: We have the right setting and the right amount of 210 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: support here. And then you know the players that we've 211 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: brought in, whether it's you know, players from high school, 212 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: whether it's players from a transfer portal, whether it's making 213 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: a decision to keep players on the current roster, have 214 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: fit and they've worked together, and I think kind of 215 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: to the previous answer. They sense the opportunity that we 216 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: have here and how special this is. I mean, we're 217 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: catching this at a really really unique time and just 218 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: what an opportunity it is, and. 219 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: We want to make the most of that. 220 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: And so I think every one of us, whether we've 221 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: worked together for ten years or we've just had a 222 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: guy that transferred in that's been with us for a 223 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: couple of months, I think we all since that we've 224 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: tried to only bring in people that really want to 225 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: be a part of it, and that's given us some 226 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: common ground and something to bond on. And Yeah, you've 227 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: just kind of seen that take hold. So it's been 228 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: it's been fun to be a part of putting it together. 229 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: And the best is you have to come. 230 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that coach is fun to watch it like living 231 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: here in LA I certainly understand the magnitude of the 232 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 3: job when it comes to USC You've been in two 233 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: places that have a lot of expectations in those things, 234 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 3: and as a very young coach, how are you able 235 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: to kind of keep yourself centered and not worry about 236 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: the outside noise even though you know that you're dealing 237 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: with big programs, and particularly a huge program in La. 238 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think one, I think you have to embrace it, right, 239 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: because with expectations there's also big opportunities, and I think 240 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: you have to embrace that. I mean, I've always desired 241 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: to coach places that we're going to give you the 242 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: resources to be successful, that expected you to do it, 243 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: and because I just feel like your opportunities are a 244 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: little bit different there and it puts. 245 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 4: You out on that stage. 246 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: And I just I've always wanted to be at the 247 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: highest level of it and have a chance to be 248 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: a part of a team there, and so yeah, I. 249 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 4: Certainly have it here. 250 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: As far as dealing with it, I think you stay 251 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: focused on the day to day, right, you stay busy 252 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: on the things that matter, the people that matter, and 253 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: that is you understand going through it that if you 254 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: do that, at the end of the day, you have 255 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: a chance to be where you want to be. But 256 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: it's all about your mindset, right, do you feel the 257 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: pressure you or you embracing the opportunity? 258 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: Man? 259 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 4: And I just doing it here in this city, at 260 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 4: this place. 261 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: There's nothing like it, and so yeah, just focus on 262 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: the opportunity and just not missing this chance to be 263 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: a part of something really special, you. 264 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: Know, coach coming from an NFL background a lot of 265 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 3: time as a team building, you build your team to 266 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: win the division, and then that takes care of yourself 267 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: because you get into the postseason. 268 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: In those teams, college football is a little different. 269 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: And so when you think about building your team from 270 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: the ground up, do you build. 271 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 2: It with an eye towards the playoffs? Do you build 272 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: it with winning the conference? Like? 273 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: What is the general overall objective when you think about, Okay, 274 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: here's how we're going to build this team, just how 275 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 3: we're going to build this program going forward? 276 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no question. 277 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: I mean I think I think competitively, we came in 278 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: here with the mindset of we're building a team to 279 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: go in the national championship. I mean that that was 280 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: our mindset walking in the door. That's the mindset of 281 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: the people that we hired, to the mindset of the 282 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: players that we've brought in here obviously to do that. 283 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: Like you said, there's going to be certain steps along 284 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: the way, and our steps and our game are different, 285 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: and and we'll be even more different next year when 286 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: we change it up again. But yeah, I think that's 287 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: a mindset and I don't I just think at a 288 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: at a school and a program like SC, like that's 289 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: that's how it should be, right in my opinion, Like 290 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: this is this is USC, like there should be there 291 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: should be championship expectations every single year. And I just 292 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: think SC has that that place, and not only that place, 293 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: but that responsibility in our sport. It's this is where 294 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: it belongs. And it's not not that any right, not 295 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: that it's owed to you, not that it's going to 296 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: happen just because. But I think that ought to be 297 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: the expectation of anybody that coaches or plays at USC. 298 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: Because last one for you. 299 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 3: And I think this is something that is maybe maybe 300 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 3: overlooked when it comes to billing great teams. The greatest 301 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 3: teams that we've seen, we faced, have a swagger about them. 302 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 3: It's a confidence sometimes I talk about like a little 303 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: athletic arrogance. And so it's that fine line between being 304 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 3: very confident but being cocky. How do you build that 305 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 3: confidence in your team while also making sure they have 306 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: enough humility to not think two four our head of 307 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: what's in front of them. 308 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: It's a great question, right, It's a constant, a constant dance, Right, 309 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: You're kind of constantly on either side of the line 310 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: there and trying to find that that ideal spot because 311 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: you're right, like it's on these stages, you better believe 312 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: you can do it right when you go into a 313 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: big road environment and everybody wants you to lose, everybody's 314 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: against you, or you get down in a game like 315 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: if you don't have that inner belief and that confidence 316 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: and that swagger, you have no chance. The flip side 317 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: of it is, you're right, there has to be humility 318 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: as well, because you can't do it by yourself because 319 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: no matter what you accomplish, there's always going to be 320 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: more and more work to be done. You have to 321 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: be able to understand your weaknesses and go attack them 322 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: and be honest and upfront about that. So yeah, I mean, 323 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: I think I think the thing that we talk about 324 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: with our guys is that the confidence or the swagger 325 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: is earned. Right, It's not fake, it's not hype, it's 326 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: not pregame stuff. It's it's earned by the work that 327 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: you put in. And then balance that with the ability 328 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: to see what your weaknesses are, what we need to 329 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: improve on, and continuing to have a respect for what 330 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: it takes to play this game at the highest level. 331 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: And that's and I think you try to find guys 332 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: and whether it's other guys in football, professional football, other sports, 333 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: other walks alive, other people that really embody that. 334 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 4: And are great examples of that. 335 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: And so that's what we've tried to do, tried to 336 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: show and we've got to do that as well as coaches, 337 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: right because we're all in it together. 338 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: Well, coach Man, I can't thank you enough for spending 339 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 3: the time. I know you've got exciting time coming up. 340 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 3: Practice started at the end of the week, and so 341 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: we just want to wish you the best. Look hopefully 342 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: you can visit you again down the road. 343 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 4: That sounds great, have to do it. Fight on. 344 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: Football is Back. 345 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: Celebrate by watching as teams across the league take the 346 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,479 Speaker 3: field for training camp Back Together weekend, presented by YouTube. 347 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 3: We have two full days of practices, player interviews, miked 348 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: up moments, and fan fest across the league. It's a 349 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: can't miss NFL reunion. NFL Network in NFL Plus have 350 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: you covered with coverage on Saturday, July twenty ninth and 351 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 3: Sunday July thirtieth, with additional coverage on ABC and ESPN. 352 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: Go to NFL dot com slash back Together weekend for 353 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 3: ways to watch. Thanks so much for Lincoln Riley coming 354 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 3: on board. That was a great one on one interview. 355 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 3: We'll be back with more episodes of Move the Sticks 356 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: next week. Tune in for all that action. Thanks so 357 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 3: much for joining us. Look forward to talking to you 358 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: guys again next week.