WEBVTT - I Scream, You Scream 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.680 Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:14.440 Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:17.960 My name is Robert Lamb. My name is scream Queen. 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:21.560 Julie Douglas. Are you Are you really a scream queen? 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:24.759 I'm not much of a screamer. I have to say, 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:27.880 when when was the last time you scream? Um? I 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:32.599 think it was out of frustration. And I know I 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:37.200 was alone, because I'm not like, hey, let's let's emote publicly. 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.000 That's not my thing. Yeah, the last it was just 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.680 a few days ago. I was I went outside, like 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:45.920 first thing in the morning, I shut off the alarm 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:49.240 system and I walked outside too. I don't know. I 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:51.680 was checking the temperature or doing some with the carbage cans. 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:53.320 I don't know. But I go outside and there's a 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.680 cicada that right outside and I stepped through the door. 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:00.320 In this the case, it's just takes off and it 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:01.920 just scares the crap out of me, and I go, 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:07.120 I'm just like scream full volume, okay, all right, Yeah, 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.080 I don't even think that. When I'm scared, I so 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.559 much that you know, like if if someone comes around 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.520 the corner, I might jump a bit. As you all 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.520 can tell, we're going to talk about screams today. The 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.800 sign is of screaming all about because like in both 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:23.640 of these cases, Okay, I screamed when there was cicada? Like, 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:25.720 what was I doing? Was I scaring the cicado away? 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.360 Was I warning people that hey, there's cicada's around and 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.559 they might be startling? Were you, um, you know, trying 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.839 to intimidate some paperwork or or you know, or some 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.120 some house cleaning, Like what was what was that about? 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:39.440 Why do we do these things that we do? And uh, 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.320 fortunately we live in a world of science and u 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.479 and these questions are being addressed. Yeah, and and and 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.360 we were thinking about this um sort of like from 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.400 nuts to soup. Like when you take this first breath 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:54.440 in the world, the first thing that you do is 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:57.720 you scream, right, And that's really the great place to 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.960 add to start off, because you, as a human gets older, 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.000 you end up you know, you know, you get languid, 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.080 you get reason, you get culture, you get all these 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.840 various things that just just mark up the waters of 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.000 of why we do the things we do. But you 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:12.720 start off with the baby and it's the first thing 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:16.040 it's doing. It passes through the vaginal canal, get some 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.760 nice bacteria on it, and then just screaming its head off, 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:23.320 all right, because it's transitioning from a respiratory system that 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.200 had fluid to air. Right, that's the first thing that 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.679 you do is you scream like mad. But then, as 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.040 you say, it gets a little bit more complex. We 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.720 scream because we're frightened, we're frustrated, we're angry, we're aroused, 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.959 or we're in pain or we you know, it's it's 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:44.880 a purely cathartic thing. People screamed because they're aroused apparently. Okay, yes, 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:49.640 that's what the literature says. Um. But back to babies before, 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.280 before we get into infant screaming anymore, let's actually listen 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:55.880 to a little clip because I mean, you might be 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:57.880 listening to a baby scream right now, and it's so 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:00.280 great because you're already immersed in the subject matter. But 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.480 if not, we just need to remind everyone because there's 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:20.120 nothing else like it. Oh, so that the sound of 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.720 a baby crying, it's the if you're not at all 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.120 connected to a situation, you're like in an airplane or something, 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:27.600 then it's just really annoying. But if you're all connected 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.880 to the situation, whether you're it's your friends baby, your baby, 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:35.040 your babysitting or whatever, then it just like you. You're 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:37.960 just like, I must help this creature it is it 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:41.240 wants something really bad or it does not want something 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.800 really bad. What can I do to try and make 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:48.520 things better? Because it's just the the infant. Infant screens 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.280 in a way that like that humans rarely do, Like 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.160 they're just putting everything into it, like it's like a 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:59.080 full body exercise in disapproval or one. And it is 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:03.640 interesting because, uh, the babies screams cries have been analyzed 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:05.720 over and over again, and what they find is that 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.600 there are particular screams or screams for for food, for 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:13.560 for boredom, for wanting to be held um And in fact, 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.760 lactating women who hear the screams of infant that are 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:20.520 particular to a scream for I'm hungry will begin loctating 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:24.360 whether or not it's your baby. Um. Now, as a mom, 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:28.520 were you able to determine like what once scream niche? Yeah, 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.320 eventually I could. I mean obviously the I don't know 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.480 how long it took, but the first you know, a 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:35.120 couple of weeks out of the gate. I had no 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:38.359 idea what my daughter wanted. I was plus, I was 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:42.800 just like tired, Um, what do you want? Um? But 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.480 what what has been discovered lately, which I think is 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.840 really interesting, is that thetises, although we know they can 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:52.000 recognize music and voices and within the womb, that they 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:55.400 can actually mimic speech patterns and they do this through 0:04:55.440 --> 0:05:00.800 their screams. Dr Kathleen Bremckey of the University of horser Wurzburg, 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:04.080 Germany and colleagues studied the patterns of baby cries in 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:07.240 the first five days of life that recorded the screams. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:11.080 How exciting is this going through their data right? Uh? 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.960 That that's got to be headache inducing. They recorded the 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:17.080 screams of thirty Germans and thirty French babies, and they 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.599 found that the screams of the five day old French 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:24.640 babies had a distinct gallic twang and the Germans babies 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:29.120 had a teutonic quality to their yells. The teutonic screams 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.040 of the infant German and I just I keep thinking 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:38.080 of like Arnold Schwarzenegger somehow sometimes exactly yeah, I can't 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:43.320 even replicate it. But I think that that's a good attempt. There. No, wait, actually, 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.160 let's let let's let me find a clip of that 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:52.960 real quick. See there you go, all right, Okay, not bad. 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.040 That was either Arnold or a German infant. I'll let 0:05:56.080 --> 0:06:01.400 you decide. Um. And then in addition to the screaming babies, 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:04.400 it turns out that children in their screams are also 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:08.320 telling a story. Um. Children who were given One's Ease 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:12.839 with built in microphones were recorded during their tantrums, and 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:16.200 so researchers had hours and hours of data which bore 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:20.679 out this pattern during a tantrum. And it turns out 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:25.920 that kids make this whimpering, sad noise the entire time 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.599 that they're going through a tantrum, but then they have 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:32.200 these spikes of screaming and yelling. It used to be that, oh, 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.680 it's just anger at the beginning of sadness at the end. 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:38.120 That's what what psychologists thought, um, But it turns out 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.919 that these two motions are really intermingled the whole time. 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:45.159 And this is an interesting thing. During these peaks of anger, 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.839 these this yelling, when you want to reach out to 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:49.880 the child and say, what's wrong, how can I help you? 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:56.360 That additional sort of stimuli or stimulus would actually incite 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.280 the child to scream even more so they're they're too 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.919 angry to deal with at that point. Yeah, Which I 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.400 think is telling the story of of what is at 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.360 the at the bottom of at least one type of scream, 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:11.320 the frustration, scream sadness and anger, is that maybe it 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.920 has tied into this idea that we're over stimulated in 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:18.560 life and you reach this breaking point where you just 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.679 have to scream. Yeah. Yeah, I think I think everyone's 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.880 felt that way at one point or another, even if 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.960 you you're not like completely aware of it, Like what 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.360 you really need is a really good scream. I have certainly, Like, 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.360 have you ever been faced with a choice or a 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.680 situation that is so frustrating for so frustrating or so 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.640 anger filled and you're just sitting there and you're trying 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.320 to communicate with another person about it, Yeah, and it 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:44.680 seems like you have to make a choice at that 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:48.000 moment and you just want to go and you're trying 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.680 not to write because as we get older, we try 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:54.120 to to keep this under wraps. All Right, we're gonna 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.040 move on from infant screens now, and we're gonna discuss 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.200 more grown up screens. So for this I'm gonna actual 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.720 let's throw out another couple of sound pites here. Uh. 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:07.040 This first one, uh is a scream queen's scream scream 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.800 queens for anyone who's not familiar with the term. Uh, where, 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:13.160 of course, uh in our women in horror movies whose 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:17.480 primary acting role is to scream and react and terror 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:21.520 to um monsters or mass men coming after them to 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.040 kill them. Uh, it's a and there's a there's a 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:28.520 whole lot of of of of cultural psychological matter to 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.280 discuss there. But but at the heart of it, you 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.280 have women whose like whole thing was like, all right, 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:35.079 we can get you on screen and we just need 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.960 to scream your head off and and and not. And 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.000 it's not only just making the sound, but the face 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.120 and just it's like a there's a purity to it though, 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.360 because in many cases, you, I mean, you'll find movies 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.880 where like the woman is screaming no, no, or or 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:50.959 they'll be screaming about something. But in many cases it 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:55.920 is just a primal scream of just just full on terror. 0:08:56.200 --> 0:09:01.720 So think of Janet Lee and in the Psycho exactly yeah, 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.839 or um Jamie Lee Curtis was started off her career 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:08.120 as a scream queen. Yeah yeah, and and a number 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.719 of other little films after that. But but this is 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.800 one of my favorites. This is Marylyn Burns as Sally 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:32.719 Hertessy in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre of the original. So 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.360 in the in that clip, they're they're also doing some 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.000 stuff with the sound effects. They're they're throwing in some 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.640 mechanical kind of chainsaw noise and really messing with you 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:43.720 on a on a sonic level as well. But but 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.400 she's also just doing a fabulous scream and if you've 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.720 ever seen the movie, she has the facials to to 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.640 match it. It's just you get this really authentic sense. 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.839 So here's somebody that is just screaming at the there 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:58.600 at the edge of sanity with terror, and they should be, 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.120 because I mean, she's sitting that table when she's about 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.679 to get well what seems like she's about to get 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:07.120 killed right there, and there's awful visual things going on. 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.880 And the method aspect of that scene, as I as 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.600 I understand it, is that that was also a really long, 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.160 really hot shoot and so at the end of it, 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.959 everybody was just worn out, so there's a certain amount 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.520 of her screaming and that scene that is probably just 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:27.240 her just being completely done with this, uh this horror 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.240 movie shoot for the day. Well, and I like the 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.800 clips that you've sent me because it's got sweetish subtitles, 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.120 which is very odd to look out when you're hearing 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:40.839 these The Texas heavy accents are girl, We're gonna kill you. Yeah, 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:42.680 but there are no there are no subtitles for the 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.719 scream because that's the universal and that's what we're really 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.440 discussing next is you know, we discussed like the in 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.800 the past, like the discussed face that people make, that 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.440 that's universal, that that speaks to anyone, no matter if 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:56.320 you know, you could be in New York City or 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.880 just outstanding in the middle of nowhere in Mongolia, and 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.480 if someone makes a disgust face, you're going to think, oh, 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.199 my goodness, do I smell weird? Am? I is there's 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:10.239 something in my face? You understand what they're emoting. And likewise, 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:14.400 the scream is pretty universal. If someone is screaming about something, 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.360 you were going to look around, like, WHOA, what's happening? 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.160 Is this person crazy? Are they being assaulted? Should I help? 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.920 Should I pretend should I be awful and pretend that 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.400 I'm not noticing them screaming? But either way, it's something 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.280 that you you have to deal with on on some level. 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:31.079 So yes, to your point, absolutely, it's very universal, um, 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.560 no matter where you are. But it does seem to 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:38.520 point that that that fear and screaming is particular. Yes, 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.440 there there, Yes it's universal, but it turns out that 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:46.040 not everybody has all of the muscles in the faces 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.120 nineteen muscles. There's a lot going on your face when 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.160 you scream. It's it's like we're talking about with with 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.840 any good scream queen, It's not just an exercise and audio. 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:57.679 It's also a facial event right in their nineteen muscles 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.559 in your face there these major muscles that are controlling 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:04.120 and contorting these muscles. Two thirds of the population actually 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:09.120 have these muscles. So it and what this is driving 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.599 at is that some people are much better at expressing 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:16.880 things like fear, but particularly with the rstorious muscle, because 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:20.680 that is what controls um. This look of extreme fear 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.640 on your face. Wow, So you hear about people having 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:25.920 a really expressive face, but you often tend to think 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.160 of that in terms of just behavior in mindset and 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:32.480 not so much as actual anatomy. But but it sounds 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.600 like there could conceivably be a little girl out there 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:35.800 is like when I grew up, I'm gonna be a 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.480 screen queen, and that she does not have all the 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:41.160 muscles to really pull it off. I mean, maybe she 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:42.960 could go she could go gatica on it and just 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.839 like really try extra hard, but she's still gonna have 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.320 to go up against the screen queens that have just 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.319 naturally occurring extra muscles. And who knows what if people 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.760 started evolving to uh, I mean that it's an evolutionary 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.560 advantage to be a better screen queen. Well, actually, there 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:02.559 is an evolutionary advantage because when you are making those expressions, 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.920 it's actually um, it's pumping more blood to your brain, 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:10.240 particularly if it's something like fear and screaming. What's happening 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.480 is that your field of vision actually widens. You smell 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:17.200 your Yeah, you're taking in more data. You're so much 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.960 more alert. Blood is flowing to your face, your your 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:24.440 mouth is opening, your nose is taking in more smells, 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.080 are more acutely taking them in, which is the opposite 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:30.079 of disgust. Because think about disgust. Disgust is like something 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.520 smells weird. Let's cut this off because it might kill 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:34.199 me if I breathe it in. Look, you feel the 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:36.360 vision narrows a little bit because you're you're honing in 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.880 on side. My eyes definitely mind blind me exactly, and 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.240 and your nose is sort of shutting off the smell. 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.400 So yeah, definitely when you're you're actually having this fear 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.840 face and you're screaming though you're it's like, I need 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.040 to see what's happening. I need to smell what's happening, 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.120 and I need to be pumped and ready because I'm 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:56.160 about to have to duke it out with with Jason 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:59.680 Vorhees or something. Yeah, so it's not just this alarm 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.160 to to a fellow man, like hey, there's something wrong. 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.960 It is an expression to your body to say, let's 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:08.200 get things, let's go in here, let's let's start to 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.720 really assess this situation. Become as alert as possible. And 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.400 you get a taste of this if you just like 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.600 a if you've ever like just screamed for the sake 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.280 of it, but also like in yoga class, will do 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.640 this lion face thing, you know, uh, you know, where 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:26.000 you you you scrunch up your face face and you 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.600 like stick out your tongue, your tongue, roll your eyes 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.440 back in your head and it's like this scary, ridiculous face. Yeah, 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:34.960 and it does. It pumps you up, It works um 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:36.480 in the same way that you know they talk about, 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.800 you know, smiling can actually make you feel happy or 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.760 just the physical act of smiling, because our expressions are 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.840 not just they're not just a result of the way 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:47.560 we feel. It's well, you know, it's the mind body 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:51.040 connection and all these things are are connected to one another. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.280 So if you you turn one, you're going to turn 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.920 the other, you know. And it was Darwin who actually 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.840 sussed this out long ago because he thought, what is 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:03.080 the evolutionary manage of smiling or frowning or fear? And 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:04.880 I don't know if you remember these studies that he 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:09.040 helped to conduct, but they actually manipulated people's muscles and 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.600 their faces, which looked very painful, and then they did 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:15.000 some studies to see whether or not it was corresponding 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:19.640 with how they felt. So people used muscles that were 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:24.320 being manipulated by machines to to rise in a smiling formation. 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:28.200 Became happier, even though it probably hurt that they had 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.320 the little metal prongs sticking in them. We'll see they 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.920 should that should be a treatment method. You know. They 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:38.160 strapped this happiness device on you, and yeah, and invaders 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:43.720 them the car. The Nickelodeon cartoon really twisted, awesome cartoon 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:45.760 they would have. This thing was like this big screw 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:47.640 with a smiley face on it and like screws in 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.600 at the side of your skull and just makes you 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:54.000 happy all the time. Similar principle. I'm thinking that with 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.200 all this happiness out there in the in the marketplace, 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:00.560 that this could be some thing. Yeah, yeah, this this 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:04.640 might fly on QBC. Alright, Um, should we listen to 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:08.320 one more iconic scream before we go to break? Yes? Uh, 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:12.400 this is a little something called the Wilhelm scream. You 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:14.920 if you watch movies, you have heard this before. It's 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.200 a stock sound effect that was first used in nineteen 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.280 one for the film Distant Drums, and it has since 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.080 been used in hundreds of films like Star Wars, Indiana Jones. 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:27.920 Mainstream stuff, you know, very professional blockbuster stuff. Also, lots 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:29.760 of people like film Bucks just like to throw it 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.000 into their own like little indie pictures as well, or 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:35.560 just you know, um, amateur pictures. Let's have a listen. 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:40.840 So that reminds me of Vertigo. Yeah yeah, the movie Vertigo, 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:42.920 which I haven't seen in a very long time. Made 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.160 me a shorter version of it. Huh yeah. It's just 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.840 a very guttural you know. It's just the falling screen 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.080 and it's a mail scream, and so I'm glad that 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.760 we got to feature two mail screams on here. I 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:55.240 don't know what the baby is. The baby might be 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:59.240 male or female, who knows, but um, but everyone screams 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:01.080 at one point another. Let's take a quick break and 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.040 when we come back, we'll discuss a little more why 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.840 we scream and what we're where it's coming from and 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:15.520 primary scream therapy. All right, we're back. And when we 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.720 were researching this, you sent me a study called Screaming 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:25.200 and Wailing and Dimentia Patients by Bernard gro Lukes. It's 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.600 got an accident at the end. I unless that's a typo, 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:31.000 I know, I think there's actually that, but but it was. 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:34.399 It was. It's a very interesting, perhaps a little specialized study, 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.280 but it did have a really interesting chart that was 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.680 part of his theoretical framework for why dementia patients or 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.400 screaming and like, where is it coming from? And UH, 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.359 at the center of this chart, he has the circle 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:51.920 that is that represents unsatisfied needs and UH bubbles come 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:55.040 out of this from every direction. Screaming satisfies that the 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.960 screaming that satisfy satisfies the need. They're screaming that communicates 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.199 the need. Just screaming that is due to frustration and 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:09.640 negative effects. There's screaming that's due to environmental physical psychological conditions, uh, 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.480 due to the current condition, and due to habits and personality. 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.880 And then all those things that rise out of unsatisfied 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:19.200 needs can conceivably feedback into these other causes. So you 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:21.600 end up with this kind of feedback loop of of 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:25.600 screaming and screaming stimuli, which I found really interesting. Yeah, 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.920 and what I liked about that study is well, as 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:33.439 it talks about dementia, and in this idea that the 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:38.040 person's world has become so small that um that there 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:42.480 is this level of frustration and this this level um 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:46.119 to need to communicate and try to get your bearings, 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:49.399 that that results in a ton of screaming. Really and 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.600 I thought well, that's not necessarily a case for everyone 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.680 that the general public doesn't have dementia, but certainly everybody 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:58.320 has been in that situation before where they felt isolated 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.840 or they they've lost their way a bit, yeah, or 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.399 just or just crushed in by all these forces, you know, 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:10.000 general often imaginary forces or or social job related forces. 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.119 They're just pressing you in and you until you scream. Right. 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.200 And if you were that dementia patient and you had 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.880 all those different conditions, uh, then you would enter into 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.800 that feedback loop. Thankfully, most of us aren't in that 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:25.560 feedback loop, and we can get ourselves out of the screaming. Um. 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:28.080 But I was it made me think about something called 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.600 primal scream therapy. Okay, and this is where you would 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.760 it's like a nineties right, Uh. Yeah. It has its 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:38.320 beginnings in the nineteen seventies, Dr Jane. It is probably 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:43.880 better known as UM sort of a subplot of John 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:48.119 Lennon's life because he underwent primal scream therapy, which and 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:51.359 it became very popular. Actually, Steve Jobs underwent it and 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:52.960 then he thought it was just whoey and he quit 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:55.920 doing it. Um. But it's appealing to people for a 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:59.840 number of reasons. One is because it's a license to scream, 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.720 license to screen with abandoned on the floor in in 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.400 a fetal position. Who lets you do that these days? 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.480 No one. Um, but this this idea that you can 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:13.199 go into your past and all these painful memories and 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:18.719 and um embody this scream, this frustration, this anger that 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:22.960 you feel about your past, and then you can correct 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:28.399 that with a new what they call enactment. So um 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:31.440 it is a lot about release and catharsis saying something 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:35.439 that's been pressed in and putting it out. Yees. So 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:40.480 it's this neurotic tension that you're releasing through this re experiencing, 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:43.280 and then the idea is to create a new scene 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.680 to replace the neurotic one. And it's a very creative 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:49.680 process as well, which is probably why it appealed to 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:52.520 John Lennon and into a number of other people. Now, 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:57.119 is it uh a straight up therapy that has been 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:01.199 studied and has come out with glowing reviews? No, not 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.480 necessarily that the data on it is a little bit sketchy, 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:07.760 But at the end of it there there's very interesting premises. 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:10.280 There are people who claim that it helps them. There 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:11.960 are people who claim the help, but other people will 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:15.000 say they're they've been primed, which you could also say 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:19.280 there are other types of um therapy in which priming 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:21.639 is used. Yeah, And I mean, I'm kind of of 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.159 the mindset hey have. If you had to prime me 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:26.280 to to sort of fix me, then let's let's do it. 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:28.480 I was thinking about it in terms of the placebo. Yeah, 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:31.200 I'm kind of like, I'm willing to take a placebo 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:33.640 if it if I can fool myself into feeling better 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:36.720 than That's kind of what life is about, right. Yeah. Indeed, 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:39.040 the only problem though I have with it is that 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:42.360 apparently Harry Nelson, a good friend of John Lynn's at 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:47.800 that time, musician beautiful Voice, ruined his voice by I 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.360 think a weekend of he and John Lennon like kind 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:53.119 of doing some primal scream therapy. I can't remember who 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:55.119 it is. There was one. There was some actor and 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:56.840 maybe our listeners can fill me in on this, but 0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:59.040 there was an actor who was like early in his career. 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:01.439 He was trying to some parts, and you know, he 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:03.120 had a very normal voice, and then you just went 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:05.200 out one weekend on the advice of like his agent, 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:10.000 and just screamed him self force, uh, prior to an audition, 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:11.600 and then he got the part. But it kind of 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:16.320