1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamb. My name is scream Queen. 4 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Julie Douglas. Are you Are you really a scream queen? 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: I'm not much of a screamer. I have to say, 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: when when was the last time you scream? Um? I 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: think it was out of frustration. And I know I 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: was alone, because I'm not like, hey, let's let's emote publicly. 9 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: That's not my thing. Yeah, the last it was just 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: a few days ago. I was I went outside, like 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: first thing in the morning, I shut off the alarm 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: system and I walked outside too. I don't know. I 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: was checking the temperature or doing some with the carbage cans. 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. But I go outside and there's a 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: cicada that right outside and I stepped through the door. 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: In this the case, it's just takes off and it 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: just scares the crap out of me, and I go, 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: I'm just like scream full volume, okay, all right, Yeah, 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: I don't even think that. When I'm scared, I so 20 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 1: much that you know, like if if someone comes around 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: the corner, I might jump a bit. As you all 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: can tell, we're going to talk about screams today. The 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: sign is of screaming all about because like in both 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: of these cases, Okay, I screamed when there was cicada? Like, 25 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: what was I doing? Was I scaring the cicado away? 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: Was I warning people that hey, there's cicada's around and 27 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 1: they might be startling? Were you, um, you know, trying 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: to intimidate some paperwork or or you know, or some 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: some house cleaning, Like what was what was that about? 30 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: Why do we do these things that we do? And uh, 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: fortunately we live in a world of science and u 32 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: and these questions are being addressed. Yeah, and and and 33 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: we were thinking about this um sort of like from 34 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: nuts to soup. Like when you take this first breath 35 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: in the world, the first thing that you do is 36 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: you scream, right, And that's really the great place to 37 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: add to start off, because you, as a human gets older, 38 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: you end up you know, you know, you get languid, 39 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: you get reason, you get culture, you get all these 40 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: various things that just just mark up the waters of 41 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: of why we do the things we do. But you 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: start off with the baby and it's the first thing 43 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: it's doing. It passes through the vaginal canal, get some 44 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: nice bacteria on it, and then just screaming its head off, 45 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: all right, because it's transitioning from a respiratory system that 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: had fluid to air. Right, that's the first thing that 47 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: you do is you scream like mad. But then, as 48 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: you say, it gets a little bit more complex. We 49 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: scream because we're frightened, we're frustrated, we're angry, we're aroused, 50 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: or we're in pain or we you know, it's it's 51 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: a purely cathartic thing. People screamed because they're aroused apparently. Okay, yes, 52 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: that's what the literature says. Um. But back to babies before, 53 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: before we get into infant screaming anymore, let's actually listen 54 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: to a little clip because I mean, you might be 55 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: listening to a baby scream right now, and it's so 56 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: great because you're already immersed in the subject matter. But 57 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: if not, we just need to remind everyone because there's 58 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: nothing else like it. Oh, so that the sound of 59 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: a baby crying, it's the if you're not at all 60 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: connected to a situation, you're like in an airplane or something, 61 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: then it's just really annoying. But if you're all connected 62 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: to the situation, whether you're it's your friends baby, your baby, 63 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: your babysitting or whatever, then it just like you. You're 64 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: just like, I must help this creature it is it 65 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: wants something really bad or it does not want something 66 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: really bad. What can I do to try and make 67 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: things better? Because it's just the the infant. Infant screens 68 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: in a way that like that humans rarely do, Like 69 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: they're just putting everything into it, like it's like a 70 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: full body exercise in disapproval or one. And it is 71 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: interesting because, uh, the babies screams cries have been analyzed 72 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: over and over again, and what they find is that 73 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: there are particular screams or screams for for food, for 74 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: for boredom, for wanting to be held um And in fact, 75 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: lactating women who hear the screams of infant that are 76 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: particular to a scream for I'm hungry will begin loctating 77 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: whether or not it's your baby. Um. Now, as a mom, 78 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: were you able to determine like what once scream niche? Yeah, 79 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: eventually I could. I mean obviously the I don't know 80 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: how long it took, but the first you know, a 81 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: couple of weeks out of the gate. I had no 82 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: idea what my daughter wanted. I was plus, I was 83 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: just like tired, Um, what do you want? Um? But 84 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: what what has been discovered lately, which I think is 85 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: really interesting, is that thetises, although we know they can 86 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: recognize music and voices and within the womb, that they 87 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: can actually mimic speech patterns and they do this through 88 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: their screams. Dr Kathleen Bremckey of the University of horser Wurzburg, 89 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: Germany and colleagues studied the patterns of baby cries in 90 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: the first five days of life that recorded the screams. 91 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: How exciting is this going through their data right? Uh? 92 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: That that's got to be headache inducing. They recorded the 93 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: screams of thirty Germans and thirty French babies, and they 94 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: found that the screams of the five day old French 95 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: babies had a distinct gallic twang and the Germans babies 96 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: had a teutonic quality to their yells. The teutonic screams 97 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: of the infant German and I just I keep thinking 98 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: of like Arnold Schwarzenegger somehow sometimes exactly yeah, I can't 99 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: even replicate it. But I think that that's a good attempt. There. No, wait, actually, 100 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: let's let let's let me find a clip of that 101 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: real quick. See there you go, all right, Okay, not bad. 102 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: That was either Arnold or a German infant. I'll let 103 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: you decide. Um. And then in addition to the screaming babies, 104 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: it turns out that children in their screams are also 105 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: telling a story. Um. Children who were given One's Ease 106 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: with built in microphones were recorded during their tantrums, and 107 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: so researchers had hours and hours of data which bore 108 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,679 Speaker 1: out this pattern during a tantrum. And it turns out 109 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: that kids make this whimpering, sad noise the entire time 110 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: that they're going through a tantrum, but then they have 111 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: these spikes of screaming and yelling. It used to be that, oh, 112 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: it's just anger at the beginning of sadness at the end. 113 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: That's what what psychologists thought, um, But it turns out 114 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: that these two motions are really intermingled the whole time. 115 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: And this is an interesting thing. During these peaks of anger, 116 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: these this yelling, when you want to reach out to 117 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: the child and say, what's wrong, how can I help you? 118 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: That additional sort of stimuli or stimulus would actually incite 119 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: the child to scream even more so they're they're too 120 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: angry to deal with at that point. Yeah, Which I 121 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: think is telling the story of of what is at 122 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: the at the bottom of at least one type of scream, 123 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: the frustration, scream sadness and anger, is that maybe it 124 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: has tied into this idea that we're over stimulated in 125 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: life and you reach this breaking point where you just 126 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 1: have to scream. Yeah. Yeah, I think I think everyone's 127 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: felt that way at one point or another, even if 128 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: you you're not like completely aware of it, Like what 129 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: you really need is a really good scream. I have certainly, Like, 130 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: have you ever been faced with a choice or a 131 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: situation that is so frustrating for so frustrating or so 132 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: anger filled and you're just sitting there and you're trying 133 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: to communicate with another person about it, Yeah, and it 134 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: seems like you have to make a choice at that 135 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: moment and you just want to go and you're trying 136 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: not to write because as we get older, we try 137 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: to to keep this under wraps. All Right, we're gonna 138 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: move on from infant screens now, and we're gonna discuss 139 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: more grown up screens. So for this I'm gonna actual 140 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: let's throw out another couple of sound pites here. Uh. 141 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: This first one, uh is a scream queen's scream scream 142 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: queens for anyone who's not familiar with the term. Uh, where, 143 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: of course, uh in our women in horror movies whose 144 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: primary acting role is to scream and react and terror 145 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: to um monsters or mass men coming after them to 146 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: kill them. Uh, it's a and there's a there's a 147 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: whole lot of of of of cultural psychological matter to 148 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: discuss there. But but at the heart of it, you 149 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: have women whose like whole thing was like, all right, 150 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: we can get you on screen and we just need 151 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: to scream your head off and and and not. And 152 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: it's not only just making the sound, but the face 153 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: and just it's like a there's a purity to it though, 154 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: because in many cases, you, I mean, you'll find movies 155 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: where like the woman is screaming no, no, or or 156 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: they'll be screaming about something. But in many cases it 157 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: is just a primal scream of just just full on terror. 158 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: So think of Janet Lee and in the Psycho exactly yeah, 159 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: or um Jamie Lee Curtis was started off her career 160 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: as a scream queen. Yeah yeah, and and a number 161 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: of other little films after that. But but this is 162 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: one of my favorites. This is Marylyn Burns as Sally 163 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: Hertessy in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre of the original. So 164 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: in the in that clip, they're they're also doing some 165 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: stuff with the sound effects. They're they're throwing in some 166 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: mechanical kind of chainsaw noise and really messing with you 167 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: on a on a sonic level as well. But but 168 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: she's also just doing a fabulous scream and if you've 169 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: ever seen the movie, she has the facials to to 170 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: match it. It's just you get this really authentic sense. 171 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: So here's somebody that is just screaming at the there 172 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: at the edge of sanity with terror, and they should be, 173 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: because I mean, she's sitting that table when she's about 174 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: to get well what seems like she's about to get 175 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: killed right there, and there's awful visual things going on. 176 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: And the method aspect of that scene, as I as 177 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: I understand it, is that that was also a really long, 178 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: really hot shoot and so at the end of it, 179 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: everybody was just worn out, so there's a certain amount 180 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: of her screaming and that scene that is probably just 181 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: her just being completely done with this, uh this horror 182 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: movie shoot for the day. Well, and I like the 183 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: clips that you've sent me because it's got sweetish subtitles, 184 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: which is very odd to look out when you're hearing 185 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: these The Texas heavy accents are girl, We're gonna kill you. Yeah, 186 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: but there are no there are no subtitles for the 187 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: scream because that's the universal and that's what we're really 188 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: discussing next is you know, we discussed like the in 189 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: the past, like the discussed face that people make, that 190 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: that's universal, that that speaks to anyone, no matter if 191 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, you could be in New York City or 192 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: just outstanding in the middle of nowhere in Mongolia, and 193 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: if someone makes a disgust face, you're going to think, oh, 194 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: my goodness, do I smell weird? Am? I is there's 195 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:10,239 Speaker 1: something in my face? You understand what they're emoting. And likewise, 196 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: the scream is pretty universal. If someone is screaming about something, 197 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: you were going to look around, like, WHOA, what's happening? 198 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: Is this person crazy? Are they being assaulted? Should I help? 199 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: Should I pretend should I be awful and pretend that 200 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm not noticing them screaming? But either way, it's something 201 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: that you you have to deal with on on some level. 202 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: So yes, to your point, absolutely, it's very universal, um, 203 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: no matter where you are. But it does seem to 204 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: point that that that fear and screaming is particular. Yes, 205 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: there there, Yes it's universal, but it turns out that 206 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: not everybody has all of the muscles in the faces 207 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: nineteen muscles. There's a lot going on your face when 208 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: you scream. It's it's like we're talking about with with 209 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: any good scream queen, It's not just an exercise and audio. 210 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: It's also a facial event right in their nineteen muscles 211 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: in your face there these major muscles that are controlling 212 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: and contorting these muscles. Two thirds of the population actually 213 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: have these muscles. So it and what this is driving 214 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,599 Speaker 1: at is that some people are much better at expressing 215 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: things like fear, but particularly with the rstorious muscle, because 216 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: that is what controls um. This look of extreme fear 217 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: on your face. Wow, So you hear about people having 218 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: a really expressive face, but you often tend to think 219 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: of that in terms of just behavior in mindset and 220 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: not so much as actual anatomy. But but it sounds 221 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: like there could conceivably be a little girl out there 222 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: is like when I grew up, I'm gonna be a 223 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: screen queen, and that she does not have all the 224 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: muscles to really pull it off. I mean, maybe she 225 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: could go she could go gatica on it and just 226 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: like really try extra hard, but she's still gonna have 227 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: to go up against the screen queens that have just 228 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: naturally occurring extra muscles. And who knows what if people 229 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: started evolving to uh, I mean that it's an evolutionary 230 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: advantage to be a better screen queen. Well, actually, there 231 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: is an evolutionary advantage because when you are making those expressions, 232 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: it's actually um, it's pumping more blood to your brain, 233 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: particularly if it's something like fear and screaming. What's happening 234 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: is that your field of vision actually widens. You smell 235 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: your Yeah, you're taking in more data. You're so much 236 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: more alert. Blood is flowing to your face, your your 237 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: mouth is opening, your nose is taking in more smells, 238 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: are more acutely taking them in, which is the opposite 239 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: of disgust. Because think about disgust. Disgust is like something 240 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: smells weird. Let's cut this off because it might kill 241 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: me if I breathe it in. Look, you feel the 242 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: vision narrows a little bit because you're you're honing in 243 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: on side. My eyes definitely mind blind me exactly, and 244 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: and your nose is sort of shutting off the smell. 245 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely when you're you're actually having this fear 246 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: face and you're screaming though you're it's like, I need 247 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: to see what's happening. I need to smell what's happening, 248 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: and I need to be pumped and ready because I'm 249 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: about to have to duke it out with with Jason 250 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: Vorhees or something. Yeah, so it's not just this alarm 251 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: to to a fellow man, like hey, there's something wrong. 252 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: It is an expression to your body to say, let's 253 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: get things, let's go in here, let's let's start to 254 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: really assess this situation. Become as alert as possible. And 255 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: you get a taste of this if you just like 256 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: a if you've ever like just screamed for the sake 257 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: of it, but also like in yoga class, will do 258 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: this lion face thing, you know, uh, you know, where 259 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: you you you scrunch up your face face and you 260 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: like stick out your tongue, your tongue, roll your eyes 261 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: back in your head and it's like this scary, ridiculous face. Yeah, 262 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: and it does. It pumps you up, It works um 263 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: in the same way that you know they talk about, 264 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, smiling can actually make you feel happy or 265 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: just the physical act of smiling, because our expressions are 266 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: not just they're not just a result of the way 267 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: we feel. It's well, you know, it's the mind body 268 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: connection and all these things are are connected to one another. 269 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: So if you you turn one, you're going to turn 270 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: the other, you know. And it was Darwin who actually 271 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: sussed this out long ago because he thought, what is 272 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: the evolutionary manage of smiling or frowning or fear? And 273 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember these studies that he 274 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: helped to conduct, but they actually manipulated people's muscles and 275 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: their faces, which looked very painful, and then they did 276 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: some studies to see whether or not it was corresponding 277 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: with how they felt. So people used muscles that were 278 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: being manipulated by machines to to rise in a smiling formation. 279 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: Became happier, even though it probably hurt that they had 280 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: the little metal prongs sticking in them. We'll see they 281 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: should that should be a treatment method. You know. They 282 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: strapped this happiness device on you, and yeah, and invaders 283 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: them the car. The Nickelodeon cartoon really twisted, awesome cartoon 284 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: they would have. This thing was like this big screw 285 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: with a smiley face on it and like screws in 286 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: at the side of your skull and just makes you 287 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: happy all the time. Similar principle. I'm thinking that with 288 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: all this happiness out there in the in the marketplace, 289 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: that this could be some thing. Yeah, yeah, this this 290 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: might fly on QBC. Alright, Um, should we listen to 291 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: one more iconic scream before we go to break? Yes? Uh, 292 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: this is a little something called the Wilhelm scream. You 293 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: if you watch movies, you have heard this before. It's 294 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: a stock sound effect that was first used in nineteen 295 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: one for the film Distant Drums, and it has since 296 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: been used in hundreds of films like Star Wars, Indiana Jones. 297 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: Mainstream stuff, you know, very professional blockbuster stuff. Also, lots 298 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: of people like film Bucks just like to throw it 299 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: into their own like little indie pictures as well, or 300 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: just you know, um, amateur pictures. Let's have a listen. 301 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: So that reminds me of Vertigo. Yeah yeah, the movie Vertigo, 302 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: which I haven't seen in a very long time. Made 303 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: me a shorter version of it. Huh yeah. It's just 304 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: a very guttural you know. It's just the falling screen 305 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: and it's a mail scream, and so I'm glad that 306 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: we got to feature two mail screams on here. I 307 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: don't know what the baby is. The baby might be 308 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: male or female, who knows, but um, but everyone screams 309 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: at one point another. Let's take a quick break and 310 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: when we come back, we'll discuss a little more why 311 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: we scream and what we're where it's coming from and 312 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: primary scream therapy. All right, we're back. And when we 313 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: were researching this, you sent me a study called Screaming 314 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: and Wailing and Dimentia Patients by Bernard gro Lukes. It's 315 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: got an accident at the end. I unless that's a typo, 316 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: I know, I think there's actually that, but but it was. 317 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: It was. It's a very interesting, perhaps a little specialized study, 318 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: but it did have a really interesting chart that was 319 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: part of his theoretical framework for why dementia patients or 320 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: screaming and like, where is it coming from? And UH, 321 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: at the center of this chart, he has the circle 322 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: that is that represents unsatisfied needs and UH bubbles come 323 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: out of this from every direction. Screaming satisfies that the 324 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: screaming that satisfy satisfies the need. They're screaming that communicates 325 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: the need. Just screaming that is due to frustration and 326 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: negative effects. There's screaming that's due to environmental physical psychological conditions, uh, 327 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: due to the current condition, and due to habits and personality. 328 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: And then all those things that rise out of unsatisfied 329 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: needs can conceivably feedback into these other causes. So you 330 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: end up with this kind of feedback loop of of 331 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: screaming and screaming stimuli, which I found really interesting. Yeah, 332 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: and what I liked about that study is well, as 333 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: it talks about dementia, and in this idea that the 334 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: person's world has become so small that um that there 335 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: is this level of frustration and this this level um 336 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: to need to communicate and try to get your bearings, 337 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: that that results in a ton of screaming. Really and 338 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: I thought well, that's not necessarily a case for everyone 339 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: that the general public doesn't have dementia, but certainly everybody 340 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: has been in that situation before where they felt isolated 341 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: or they they've lost their way a bit, yeah, or 342 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: just or just crushed in by all these forces, you know, 343 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: general often imaginary forces or or social job related forces. 344 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: They're just pressing you in and you until you scream. Right. 345 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: And if you were that dementia patient and you had 346 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: all those different conditions, uh, then you would enter into 347 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: that feedback loop. Thankfully, most of us aren't in that 348 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: feedback loop, and we can get ourselves out of the screaming. Um. 349 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: But I was it made me think about something called 350 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: primal scream therapy. Okay, and this is where you would 351 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: it's like a nineties right, Uh. Yeah. It has its 352 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: beginnings in the nineteen seventies, Dr Jane. It is probably 353 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: better known as UM sort of a subplot of John 354 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: Lennon's life because he underwent primal scream therapy, which and 355 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: it became very popular. Actually, Steve Jobs underwent it and 356 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: then he thought it was just whoey and he quit 357 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: doing it. Um. But it's appealing to people for a 358 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: number of reasons. One is because it's a license to scream, 359 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: license to screen with abandoned on the floor in in 360 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: a fetal position. Who lets you do that these days? 361 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: No one. Um, but this this idea that you can 362 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: go into your past and all these painful memories and 363 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: and um embody this scream, this frustration, this anger that 364 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: you feel about your past, and then you can correct 365 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: that with a new what they call enactment. So um 366 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: it is a lot about release and catharsis saying something 367 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: that's been pressed in and putting it out. Yees. So 368 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: it's this neurotic tension that you're releasing through this re experiencing, 369 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: and then the idea is to create a new scene 370 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: to replace the neurotic one. And it's a very creative 371 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: process as well, which is probably why it appealed to 372 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: John Lennon and into a number of other people. Now, 373 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: is it uh a straight up therapy that has been 374 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: studied and has come out with glowing reviews? No, not 375 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: necessarily that the data on it is a little bit sketchy, 376 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: But at the end of it there there's very interesting premises. 377 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: There are people who claim that it helps them. There 378 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: are people who claim the help, but other people will 379 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: say they're they've been primed, which you could also say 380 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: there are other types of um therapy in which priming 381 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: is used. Yeah, And I mean, I'm kind of of 382 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: the mindset hey have. If you had to prime me 383 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: to to sort of fix me, then let's let's do it. 384 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: I was thinking about it in terms of the placebo. Yeah, 385 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, I'm willing to take a placebo 386 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: if it if I can fool myself into feeling better 387 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: than That's kind of what life is about, right. Yeah. Indeed, 388 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: the only problem though I have with it is that 389 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: apparently Harry Nelson, a good friend of John Lynn's at 390 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: that time, musician beautiful Voice, ruined his voice by I 391 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: think a weekend of he and John Lennon like kind 392 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: of doing some primal scream therapy. I can't remember who 393 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: it is. There was one. There was some actor and 394 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: maybe our listeners can fill me in on this, but 395 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: there was an actor who was like early in his career. 396 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: He was trying to some parts, and you know, he 397 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: had a very normal voice, and then you just went 398 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: out one weekend on the advice of like his agent, 399 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: and just screamed him self force, uh, prior to an audition, 400 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: and then he got the part. But it kind of 401 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: with his voice became that permanently, permanently scarred kind of 402 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: gravelly voice. But that's end up being his moneymaker. So 403 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: I don't remember who it was. I don't think it's 404 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: one of the more famous gravelly voice actors, but it 405 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: could be wrong. Well, here's the thing. If you don't 406 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: feel like going to a primal scream therapist and you 407 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: want to do this uh in private or even in public, 408 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: there is something. There is a device for you. Yes, 409 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: we've mentioned it before, but I thought that it was 410 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: probably worth it to mention again. Fab Labs. This came 411 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: out from the h this idea that there's open software 412 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: that you can create anything. You could design it and 413 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: feed into a computer and lo and behold here here 414 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: it is um. It is called the Green Buddy, and 415 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 1: it came out of this idea of this fab Labs. 416 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: And it looks like an infant carrier and you can 417 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: scream directly into it and nobody can hear you. That's 418 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: the brilliant thing about right, So you can be in 419 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: the middle of a busy street and just scream into 420 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: your scream, buddy, nobody knows, but you can record it. 421 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: And if later you felt like just releasing your scream 422 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: on everybody, you could, Yeah, put it up on soundclouds. 423 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: Here it with the world. There you go. You can. 424 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: You can voice your frustration without any social repercussions. An 425 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: animals do animal scream, Yeah, they do, of course, and 426 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: when we can hear their little barbarica yachts all over 427 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: the place. Um. But there is one ultrasonic primate in 428 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: existence that we know of, so we can't hear it screams, right, 429 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: who screams? We cannot hear it's the five inch high 430 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: primate called the tartars. I believe it's indigenous to the Philippines. Yes. Yes, 431 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: Actually the eyes are itself like make up most of 432 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: the body. Because it's just so small. Um, it has 433 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: the ability to produce high pitched screams unheard by human ears. 434 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: And before researchers stuck thirty five of these guys in 435 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: front of a ultrasound detector and um, they realize that 436 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 1: they are actually emitting these ultra sonic secret yells. Before that, 437 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: they assumed that they were just yawning. Um. But it's 438 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: really cool because This allows their predators like snakes and birds, 439 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: just to go along their business without realizing that these 440 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: these little primates are giving each other heads up warning calls. Um, 441 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,239 Speaker 1: presumably like giving them the birds uh coordinates. I don't know, 442 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: but so far, again, this is the only primate that 443 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: we know that has this ability. It's kind of like 444 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: a superpower. Yeah. And of course it should come as 445 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: no surprise to anybody that animal screams of distress have 446 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: an effect on us. If you if you have a pet, 447 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: you know this. Uh, cats in particular sounds really good 448 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: at you know, they're they're they're rather mimicking human distress. 449 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: They're no, they're manipulating you with the sounds of babies crying. Yes, 450 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: you're right. Those recalizations are maddening simes. So they're just yeah, 451 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: they're maddening. It's just like, oh, you just made the 452 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: worst noise in the world. I'll feed you. It's because 453 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: you're hungry. Yeah, um and uh. And they found that 454 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: the various other distress calls from animals, when used in 455 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: film soundtracks, they're able to manipulate responses out of us 456 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: on a very primal level. So, which is why you'll 457 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: you know, people throw in like weird tiger noises into 458 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: into scenes and uh, and there's a I mean, there's 459 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: a whole Like anytime someone's doing sound design for like 460 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: a monster or something, you know, they're inevitably taking all 461 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: sorts of natural sounds and then warping them and and 462 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: weaving them together into a new manipulated noise. Yeah, it's 463 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: very dissentering. Uh. Yeah, And apparently as a result, snakes, lines, hippo's, birds, 464 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: you name it are being used for film soundtracks, So 465 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: keep an ear out. Yeah cool, Well, well that's screaming 466 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: for you. The next time you're you just have to 467 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: belt out a scream, or you're watching a horror movie 468 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: with a lot of dreaming in it, or you're dealing 469 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: with a child who is just screaming um his or 470 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: her head off. Take some of this knowledge with you, 471 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: and maybe you'll be able to to understand a little 472 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: more what's what's happening in them and what's happening in 473 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: you as a listener. Alright, let's call over the robot. 474 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: We have two bits of listener mail here today. The 475 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: first one is from Ken in Saint Catherine's, Ontario, Canada. 476 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: Ken writes In it, says, Hi, Julian Robert, I enjoyed 477 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: your podcast on camouflage. My wife and I have come 478 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: to the realization that are two boys are color blind. 479 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: We were recently told that my wife's uncle, who would 480 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: have been the same gene, who would have had the 481 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: same gene for color blindness of my boys, have put 482 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: his disability to good use. Apparently when he was serving 483 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: in World War Two, they used him to spot camouflaged equipment. 484 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: The story is that people with color blindness can see 485 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: through camouflage better than people with regular vision. I am 486 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: not sure if this is true or not, but I 487 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: think it is an interesting story. Keep up the great work, Kim. 488 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: That would make sense, right because for the general public, 489 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,239 Speaker 1: it's designed to see particular colors. Yeah, you're not going 490 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: to be manipulated by color if you are blind to color, 491 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: and therefore you can conceivably see through some of the illusions. 492 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: Um the camouflage perpetrates. So that's interesting. Uh. Then we 493 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: also heard from Amy. Amy writes, then and this was 494 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: a very interesting one. Um. Uh, the subject being plane 495 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: crash survival. We recently did the podcast on surviving a 496 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: plane crash. She says, Hey, y'all, I just started listening 497 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: to your podcast, Love It, and I was especially driven 498 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: to the topic of surviving plane crashes. When I was seventeen, 499 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: I survived the crash of the United Airlines d C 500 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: eight December of seventy eight in Portland, Oregon. Two things 501 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: that occurred to me right off the bat are one 502 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: the plane crashes that get the most publicity are the 503 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: most spectacular, and the ones with many survivors aren't still 504 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: till lating. Which is true. I mean something, you know 505 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: it's a small crash or more of a runway related incident. 506 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: The media is not gonna more common, right, She says, 507 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: this exploits an tensifies the fear of flying so many 508 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: people have already had. Although I have a better reason 509 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: than most fear flying, some phobias aren't going to go 510 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: away with simple rationalization. I know that driving is insanely 511 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: more dangerous than flying, but I haven't flown since nine 512 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: and at this stage I think it would take an 513 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: act of God to give me on a plane. I 514 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: never scoff at anyone who's afraid to fly, and I 515 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: usually don't mention my experience to them either, just my 516 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: musings any Wow. Okay, so I mean that's yeah, from 517 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: someone who's actually been in it. Yeah, So that was 518 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: that was awesome. That just some you know, some really fascinating, 519 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: honest commentary on the reality of surviving a plane crash 520 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: and also just what how does how does that affect 521 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: your your perception and your and your your fear of 522 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: going forward? So yeah, yeah, and we did. We talked 523 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: really about how it is in irrational fear, but when 524 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: the rubber hits the road and you know you've been 525 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: in it, it's it's a much different, um idea. Yeah. 526 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: Well cool. If you want to interact with us, If 527 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: you want to talk to USHO, wanna ask us questions 528 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: or share something, do reach out to us. You can 529 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: find us on the Facebook, where we are stuff to 530 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: Blow your Mind, and if you venture onto Twitter, our 531 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 1: handle is blow the Mind. Um. So, let let us 532 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: know if you have any particular thoughts on screaming, your 533 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: own experience with screaming, your experience with screaming toddlers, uh screaming, 534 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: and movies of whatever, let us know. We'd love to 535 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: hear from you how to solve screaming in space? Right? 536 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because no one can hear you there. What 537 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: are we going to do about that? All right? You 538 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: can also drop us a line at blow the Mind 539 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: at discovery dot com for more on this and thousands 540 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: of other topics. Is It How Stuff Works dot com