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Speaker 1: Taking a Walk Nashtille.

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Speaker 2: Hi, this is Sarah Harrelson, your host of Taking a

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Speaker 2: Walk Nashville, and today I am here with songwriter, artists,

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Speaker 2: podcast and radio host Dave Lenahan. We're here in his

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Speaker 2: home in Hermitage, right outside of Nashville. And for listeners

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Speaker 2: who don't know and Hermitage visitors can also find the

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Speaker 2: home of President Andrew Jackson, our seventh President of the

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Speaker 2: United States. So a lot of history here, but I'm

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Speaker 2: excited to share with listeners Dave's story today. Dave Lenahan,

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Speaker 2: He's originally from Cleveland, Ohio, the birthplace of rock and roll,

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Speaker 2: and he's a lifelong musician and radio veteran of over

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Speaker 2: forty years, working at different stations in different formats in Ohio,

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Speaker 2: including B one oh five and Cincinnati, a station that's

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Speaker 2: a six time winner of the CMA Awards for Large

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Speaker 2: Market Station of the Year. And through radio he has

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Speaker 2: met and interviewed many different country legends and then proceeded

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Speaker 2: to move to Nashville in the twenty three where you

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Speaker 2: now write with several independent artists. You've earned over a

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Speaker 2: million Spotify streams.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And in addition to songwriting, Dave, you're the host of

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Speaker 2: the popular podcast Songwriter Connection and the host of Nashville

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Speaker 2: Connection radio show every Friday morning on w n OI

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Speaker 2: and Illinois.

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Speaker 4: I believe yes it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Dave, there's a lot for us to discuss today.

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Speaker 3: I'm so tired. Do I do all that?

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Speaker 5: Wow? Crazy?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me in your home today.

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Speaker 5: How are you for coming to my home dinner? If

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Speaker 5: you me it's crazy, I'm so honored.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited to be here.

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Speaker 2: And you know, songwriting performing wasn't just something you decided

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Speaker 2: to do one day. It seems you're always performing music,

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Speaker 2: playing with the band.

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Speaker 4: While you were a radio host.

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Speaker 2: Did you have a love for both being a broadcaster.

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Speaker 4: And performer or did one come before the other.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, As a matter of fact, there were there were

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Speaker 5: probably ten years in there where I didn't even pick

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Speaker 5: radio career and trying to make it there as I

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Speaker 3: But it was always there, you know, it was always

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Speaker 3: in my heart.

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Speaker 5: Got my first guitar when I was eleven, and my

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Speaker 5: brother and I got them for Christmas, and he was

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Speaker 5: a couple of years younger than me, and he picked

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Speaker 5: up right away. He was the kind of guy they

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Speaker 5: could hear it on the radio and then just play it,

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Speaker 5: you know, without even taking lessons. So we played a

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Speaker 5: lot together. We played in church, and then when I

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Speaker 5: was in radio for a while too, it was in

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Speaker 5: a really good worship band in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 5: In fact, the bass player in that band is now

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Speaker 5: Taylor Swift's bass player. Oh wow, names Haller. Great guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So anyway, it's been a neat journey.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like it.

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Speaker 2: And I love how in your biography mentions your career

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Speaker 2: radio is always under your real name, because you know,

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Speaker 2: so many radio hosts have a different name from what

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Speaker 2: they go by. So that was interesting and it just

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Speaker 5: And that was that was it, And it was a

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Speaker 5: conscious decision. I didn't I thought about being authentic, you know.

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Speaker 5: And it's the same in country music today. I mean,

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Speaker 5: people can see right through if it's not authentic. So

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Speaker 5: I always wanted to be myself. I don't know it

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Speaker 5: was the greatest strategy in the world. But I didn't

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Speaker 5: that was just me. So I hope that worked. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So when you were playing with your band in Ohio,

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Speaker 5: Sometimes Yeah, I have a minor celebrity in our church.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of cool, eh, you know. But the nice

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Speaker 2: That's true, but yeah, I'm sure they recognize your voice

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Speaker 2: when you were talking. Now, when you were in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: you also became the chapter anader for NSAI, which is

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Speaker 2: the Nashville Songwriters Association International. It's a wonderful organization for songwriters.

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Speaker 2: How did you get involved with them?

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Speaker 5: And that's eventually what brought me here. I was working

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Speaker 5: I said, well, let me bring my program director and

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Speaker 5: we'll come. And I went to the meeting and there

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Speaker 5: were sixty people in this room, maybe more and they

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Speaker 5: were all songwriters, and I'm like, oh my god, you

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Speaker 5: guys all write songs because I was writing songs when

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Speaker 5: And I started going to the meetings and becoming a

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Speaker 5: eventually became one of the coordinators. And it was an

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Speaker 5: honor to do that. And through that we were coming

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Speaker 5: but for different reasons. Wasn't through rating anymore. It was

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Speaker 5: for songwriting and it was so cool, and we just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's great they do chapters to

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Speaker 2: support songwriters who maybe aren't able to make it to

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, And I tell folks on my podcast, join at,

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Speaker 5: I say I if you're into it, and if there

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Speaker 5: isn't a chapter, well start one. Get a bunch of

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Speaker 5: Start meeting every week. If it's just once a month,

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Speaker 5: build your own group, challenge each other, come up with

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Speaker 5: song prompts, critique each other's music.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's what it's all about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're such a great resource for songwriters. And I

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Speaker 2: want to talk about your upcoming project. It's really interesting

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Speaker 2: because you're currently preparing to release a new album, Absolom,

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Speaker 2: a concept driven project inspired by a forgotten Tennessee cemetery

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Speaker 2: that you helped uncover and preserve. Now you've released a

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Speaker 2: historical researchers and songwriters, you uncovered seventy graves, which is

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Speaker 5: Now, They're Historical Society in their latest email to me

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Speaker 3: And one hundred graves there. Oh my godness, that's something.

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Speaker 2: What made you want to do this project?

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Speaker 5: This is the craziest story and the craziest thing I've

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Speaker 5: found out it wasn't the case. When I discovered the cemetery,

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Speaker 5: It it's all beat up and bent. It looked like

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Speaker 3: It is like two families, where's the cemetery? The sign

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Speaker 5: I went home and I googled it. It came up

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Speaker 3: Go, it's right here, it's behind this sign.

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Speaker 5: In fact, there are a bunch of different Gleaves cemeteries.

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Speaker 5: I just happened to stumble across absoluence, and so I

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Speaker 5: He said, when I was a kid, I used to

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Speaker 5: maintain that cemetery of some tool. Now and you know,

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Speaker 5: I have some health issues, he said, but you have

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Speaker 5: my permission, you have the family's permission to start clearing it.

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Speaker 5: So I'm remember a few sleepless nights going how am

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Speaker 5: I mean, trees had fallen down, you know. We had

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Speaker 5: Mary Wolford's buried there, I go, Who's she? He goes,

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Speaker 5: I spent an afternoon cut all the way back. There's

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Speaker 5: a witness tree. It was there when Absolom basket wow.

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Speaker 5: And it was all on Absolom's property, you know, all

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Speaker 5: So I made it back to Mary Wolford and it

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Speaker 5: just I started climbing down that rabbit hole. I found

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Speaker 2: Country music is all about the storytelling, and you certainly

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't right now because I'm with I

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Speaker 5: I'm sure there are a lot. But you were so

437
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Speaker 5: cool about I mean, he died before the Civil War,

438
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Speaker 5: but his wife lived through it, Wow, right through the

439
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 5: whole thing. So I just I just fell down the

440
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Speaker 5: rabbit hole. I could read everything I could you know

441
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 5: about that family and about about head rejection too, So

442
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Speaker 5: it's very interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure there's so much history in there, good

444
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Speaker 2: and bad. Yeah, definitely a lot of good and bad

445
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 2: history intertwined there. In addition to this and your own music,

446
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: you know, you've got your podcast Songwriter Connection going on

447
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 2: at the same time. It drops weekly with Nashville songwriter Guest.

448
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,679
Speaker 4: I even got to be a Bowers women.

449
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Speaker 2: Behind the lyrics.

450
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 4: People can hear that episode.

451
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Speaker 5: It was so great to have you, which I love

452
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Speaker 5: what you're doing with that and Judy and.

453
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 4: And Delaines de Lainey Gus.

454
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Speaker 3: I love her voice.

455
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 5: You guys are awesome together. I'm so excited for that

456
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Speaker 5: project to get released.

457
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited for it to come out to next year.

458
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 2: And you know your own podcast, you've interviewed hundreds of

459
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Speaker 2: songwriters on it. How did you even come up with

460
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Speaker 2: the idea for this podcast?

461
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Speaker 3: No, it's cool.

462
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 5: I got it was during COVID and I got a

463
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Speaker 5: call from the guy who should do traffic on my

464
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 5: radio show in Cincinnati. And I love him as Lenna Harvey,

465
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 5: we used to have a blast on the radio. And

466
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Speaker 5: he calls me out of the blue and he goes, hey, man,

467
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Speaker 5: would you come and be on my podcast? I go,

468
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Speaker 5: you've got a podcast, Land, he is, yeah, man, we'll

469
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 5: just do it's a zoom thing and and uh it's

470
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Speaker 5: it will have fun, just like the old days. And

471
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Speaker 5: they went interesting. I said, I'll tell you what, Land,

472
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Speaker 5: I will do it on one condition.

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Speaker 3: It's what's that I see?

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Speaker 5: You tell me everything you know about podcasts, because I

475
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 5: have this idea of I want to do one about songwriting.

476
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Speaker 5: And it's just started right there. And I started doing

477
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Speaker 5: my research. I was up late nights, wasn't sleeping much.

478
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 5: I had this thing called polymyelgia, which affects all your

479
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 5: joints and the only recure is through predna zone, a

480
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 5: big dose of preadda zone. The problem with the preadoism

481
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Speaker 5: Have you ever had any kind of that steroid kind

482
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Speaker 5: of things? You don't sleep very well, you know, you're

483
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 5: just antsy. So I'd use that time to just research

484
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 5: podcast break everything I could about it, you know, find

485
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 5: a host, the whole thing, you know, and what kind

486
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Speaker 5: of equipment are you gonna use? And I just took

487
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Speaker 5: four or five months doing nothing but that, And then,

488
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 5: of course you know how it goes. You start, Okay,

489
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Speaker 5: we're gonna are we doing it? I guess we're doing this,

490
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Speaker 5: so you start lining up people that you that you

491
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Speaker 5: think would make good guess in. My first guest was

492
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Speaker 5: Billy Lee. He wrote Gary Allen's big hit, The One,

493
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Speaker 5: and has been a dear friend for a long time.

494
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Speaker 5: I said, we're gonna use you as a guinea pig,

495
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Speaker 5: and that was the first episode and then we were

496
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Speaker 5: off and running and it's just been a blast, and

497
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Speaker 5: we're to the point now we're almost a three million

498
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 5: as we record this, we're almost a three million streams.

499
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Speaker 4: Wow, that's amazing.

500
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Speaker 5: We're about to do our second live one in front

501
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 5: of a live audience at the local and day drinking,

502
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 5: early evening drinking. Yeah, and it'll be a blast. We're

503
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Speaker 5: gonna have Randy Brooks. Randy Brooks wrote Cramwell got run

504
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 5: over by Ery. You hear it every Christmas? Right, You're

505
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 5: about nor by Heart and we're going to get the

506
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Speaker 5: story behind that song and any others so nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be a great episode.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

509
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Speaker 2: There's hundreds of episodes for people to dive in on

510
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: your podcast on Writer Connection, so people can check out

511
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 2: that in addition to your own music and upcoming album

512
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Speaker 2: Absolum Dave. I always like to ask this on my podcast.

513
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Speaker 2: Since it's called taking a walk Nashville, I think I

514
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Speaker 2: might already know the answer. But do you have a

515
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 2: favorite place to take a walk in Nashville? Is it

516
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: the Absolum Cemetery?

517
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Speaker 3: It is really is? Yeah, Hello, I'll walk there. Yeah,

518
00:24:59,240 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 3: very cool.

519
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: Is it open to the public now because people walk

520
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Speaker 2: through it, they'll find it.

521
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's in the back of this field, one

522
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 5: of the only empty fields left in the Hermitage area.

523
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 5: And it's at the very back of that field.

524
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:14,479
Speaker 4: Wow.

525
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see the sign.

526
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Speaker 2: So are these unmarked gravestones are they being populated with names?

527
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Speaker 4: Now? Are you keeping them as they are?

528
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 5: We're keeping them as and there's just no way to

529
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 5: tell who's who. The ones that are marked are absolute

530
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 5: and Catherine Mary Wolford underneath the tree to the right.

531
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 5: We repaired that sign. It's you can see that it's

532
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 5: been gluted three but it stands about this tall now, uh.

533
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 5: And then Mary Wolford under the tree. And we just

534
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 5: left that stone leaning up against the tree as we

535
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Speaker 5: found it.

536
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 4: Wow.

537
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Speaker 5: So but yeah, you can walk through it. And like

538
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 5: I say, there's some more growth. I got to get

539
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Speaker 5: up there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

541
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we also wanted to talk about though I'm sorrying

542
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 5: how what crazy year it was. So also in February,

543
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 5: I'm getting off the plane from San Diego and I

544
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 5: get a call from my friend Shantel Ogden. She's a

545
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 5: sink supervisor and a great songwriter and a great emo

546
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Speaker 5: shan I do, yeah, She said, give me a call

547
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 5: when you get a chance. So the next morning I

548
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 5: texted her. I say, you're good for a call. Boom

549
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 5: calls and we caught up. Because I didn't talked her

550
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 5: for a while, I thought, you know, we had once

551
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 5: she'd been on the podcast. I don't even she wanted

552
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 5: to be on the podcast again.

553
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Speaker 3: She has no.

554
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Speaker 5: I don't know if you know this, but I've been

555
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 5: a sink agent for so long and I'm thinking I

556
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 5: can write these movies. So I wrote a Hallmark kind

557
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 5: of movie for Christmas called Music City missilete And.

558
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Speaker 3: I said, that's great.

559
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Speaker 5: Shantell, She says, I think I got a part for you.

560
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Speaker 5: I go meet, did you ever do any accurate? I said, yeah,

561
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Speaker 5: but it's been a long time. She goes, well, I'm

562
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 5: gonna send you a script. You just read this into

563
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 5: the phone and we'll let you know like, okay, so

564
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 5: I did, and Son of Again I got the part.

565
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 5: So that movie launches tomorrow as we record this, and

566
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Speaker 5: it'll be available to rental by I believe it's Amazon

567
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 5: in Apple Plus, and I think eventually it's going to

568
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 5: be on the Faith and Family Network.

569
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Speaker 2: So very cool, congrat.

570
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Speaker 5: I mean it was such a stretch. I got to

571
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 5: play a songwriter guy named Tom Martin. Now, the difference

572
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 5: between Tom Martin and me, Thom has had a lot

573
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 5: of number ones and Grammy at least one Grammy, which

574
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 5: I am because you know, if I did, I'd be

575
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 5: sitting right there that Grammy right there under my lava lamp.

576
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 5: So but anyway, no, and so that was a blast.

577
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 3: So it's been a did I tell you it's been

578
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 3: a crazy year.

579
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 4: It's it sounds like it.

580
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 2: I mean, you're multi talented from podcast host, radio, hose, songwriter, artists, actor.

581
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 3: Now I got my own IMDb.

582
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: Great maybe Graveyard Diggery one of those things.

583
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, well day.

584
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Speaker 6: Thank you so much for being on taking a walk

585
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 6: Nashville today. I am definitely going to check out the

586
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 6: music video for Absolom. Looking forward to that album coming out,

587
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 6: and people should also go listen to your podcast songwriter Connection.

588
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 4: So thanks again for having me here today.

589
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 5: I am so honored.

590
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: Thank you for coming to me.

591
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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Taking a Walk Nashville with singer

592
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: songwriter Sarah Harrelson, and check out our other podcasts, Music

593
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: Save Me, Comedy Save Me, and Taking a Walk. Available

594
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Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get

595
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Speaker 1: your podcasts