1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: Donald J. 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: Trump's leadership. 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: I'm Christy nom the United States Secretary of Homeland Security. 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Under President Trump, attempted illegal border crossings are at the 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: lowest levels ever recorded, and over one hundred thousand illegal 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: aliens have been arrested. If you are here illegally, your 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: next you will be fined nearly one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: and deported. 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: You will never return. 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: But if you register using our CBP home app and 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: Do what's right. Leave now. 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: Under President Trump, America's laws, border and families will be protected. 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security. 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 4: What does the CMO actually do. There's a Chief Marketing Office. 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 5: Chief Marketing Office, So what's the role of So that's 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 5: a great question because so many people are cmos and right, 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 5: so a CMO is actually the head leadership of the 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 5: strategic rollout of the actual brand. So internally and externally, 25 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 5: the CMO works with communications, for instance, to understand what 26 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 5: is our mission and purpose of the company, and how 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 5: are we executing that mission and purpose internally and externally. 28 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 5: So how are we educating and informing our employees, our investors, 29 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 5: our stakeholders, are all of those communications in line with 30 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 5: what we say we stand for and what we say 31 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 5: we believe in. And then to that end, we are 32 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 5: responsible for generating x amount of revenue with consumer base, 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 5: So how are we messaging to our target consumer in 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 5: a way that speaks to our mission and our purpose 35 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 5: and keeping all of keeping track of all of that 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 5: constantly and making sure that's a well oiled machine for 37 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 5: as little money as possible. 38 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 6: That was gonna be my next thing. It was that 39 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 6: there's a budget that you're given and so talk about 40 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 6: that part like you're doing the most with sometimes less 41 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 6: the least. 42 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, you're making magic happen. So there's there's three 43 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 5: types of impressions. There are owned impressions, which is earn 44 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 5: your leisure. You guys own your impressions, right there are 45 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 5: earned impressions, which is publicity pr or, as Puff would 46 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 5: always say, guilt by association. And then there's paid impressions, 47 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 5: and that's where you're spending money for media dollars. Right, 48 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 5: So there's three ways of generating. 49 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: Owned. 50 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 5: Owned impressions are your own impressions, So however many followers 51 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 5: you have on social media, however many followers you have 52 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 5: on YouTube coming to earn your leisure to view, you know, 53 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 5: view your content. 54 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 7: Those are your impressions you own that organic reach, organic reach. 55 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 4: And then what's the second one? 56 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: Earned? 57 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 7: What's earned media impressions. 58 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 5: Are press are somebody writes an article, somebody writes an article, 59 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 5: podcast going, you go on someone else's podcast, so I 60 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 5: repost your content, or I invite you to participate in 61 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 5: an event or part of co branded partnership, and then 62 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 5: you generate impressions based on that, so you go on 63 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 5: Good Morning America tomorrow. Those are all earned media impressions. 64 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 5: And then one and the third ones are paid and 65 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 5: that's all advertising. So that's sponsorship, that's media advertising, billboards, commercials, 66 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 5: that's yes, above the line advertising. So print, out of home, 67 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 5: radio and digital are the four out of home excuse me, 68 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 5: above the line pay media, and then there's below the 69 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 5: line paid media, so you could pay influencers, you could 70 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 5: pay for pot product placement, you could pay for branded 71 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 5: entertainment strategy. It's all sorts of below tolign things you 72 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,279 Speaker 5: could do to pay for awareness and connectivity. 73 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 6: And you've seen that shift, right because as from when 74 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 6: you started, print was a thing. Yes, not so much 75 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 6: a thing anymore, right, More money needs to go into digital. 76 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 6: How have you navigated that? 77 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 5: You know, it's been it's been great because one of 78 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 5: the things that we did early on at Blue Flame 79 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 5: and why we were so successful but it wasn't uphill 80 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 5: battle back then, is we were a below the line agency, 81 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 5: so we hyper focused on influencer connectivity. We hyper focused 82 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 5: on social media and digital media, which at the time 83 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 5: people were buying Super Bowl commercials and then that was it. 84 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 5: We're going to spend two million dollars on a Super 85 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 5: Bowl commercial, Yeah, we did it. Whereas us, we wanted 86 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 5: to actually take over Twitter and have you know, the 87 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 5: best handles for our brands and connect at a very 88 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 5: organic level, and people just weren't using those strategies back then. 89 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 5: So we had tremendous success in disrupting disrupting in the 90 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 5: category and in culture, and being an expert at that 91 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 5: obviously fifteen years later is really interesting to see. 92 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 4: So okay, let's talk about these different types of strategies. So, 93 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 4: because I have like a unofficial doctorate degree in marketing, 94 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 4: that's right, So I have theories on this, but I 95 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 4: think that the organic way is probably like ten times 96 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 4: more effective than paid marketing. 97 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 7: Right, absolutely more expensive. I mean it's less expensive. 98 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 4: It's expensive, and it's more effective as far as I 99 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 4: was always taught, like you have to run, Like I 100 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 4: don't know exact numbers, but let's say like five paid 101 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: ads to convert one person with organic, it might just 102 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: be two times somebody actually sees you and then they'll 103 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 4: just start to follow you all those like that's what 104 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: we've done. We've never paid for any marketing. It's all 105 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 4: been through word of mouth. Yes, it moves a lot 106 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 4: faster and it's a lot more trustworthy than just seeing 107 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 4: constant ads. 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These are just 156 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President 157 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: Donald J. 158 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: Trump's leadership. 159 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm Christy Noman, the United States Secretary of Homeland Security. 160 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: Under President Trump, attempted illegal border crossings are at the 161 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: lowest levels ever recorded, and over one hundred thousand illegal 162 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: aliens have been arrested. If you are here illegally, your 163 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: next you will be fine nearly one thousand dollars a day, 164 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: imprisoned and deported, you will never return. But if you 165 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: register using our CBP home app and leave now, you 166 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: could be allowed to return legally. 167 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: Do what's right. Leave now. 168 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: Under President Trump America's laws, border and families will. 169 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: Be protected sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security. 170 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 5: If I say Earn your Leisure in Bangladesh, do they 171 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 5: know where Earn your Leisure is? 172 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 7: Right? 173 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 5: That's awareness, right, like they know who puff Daddy is 174 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 5: in Bangladesh, right. But affinity means they watch the Earn 175 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 5: Your Leisure podcast, They come to the you know, to 176 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 5: the conferences, they know you by name and today that connectivity. 177 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 5: So sometimes organic works best because you're trying to ultimately 178 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 5: get to affinity. But if you are trying to quickly 179 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 5: build awareness around your brand. 180 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,599 Speaker 7: Paid media can be effective. 181 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 5: Case in point, people that have e commerce companies nowadays 182 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 5: buy social media ads for conversion. Right they want to 183 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 5: sell their product, they run ig ads. The more ads 184 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 5: they run, the more eyeballs they see, the more people convert. 185 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 5: And they can do that very quickly because they have 186 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 5: a transactional commodity. They're selling makeup right or water, whereas 187 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 5: you guys are building an intellectual property. So it's more 188 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 5: important for you to build organic connection because people need 189 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 5: to think to understand why you're valuable. They don't need 190 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 5: to do they need to think. So it's a different 191 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 5: there's a different modality there. So it really does depend 192 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 5: on what your brand is trying to achieve. But the 193 00:10:55,480 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 5: quick answer is you spend the biggest amount of your 194 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 5: time on earned media. 195 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 7: Earned media because people trust. 196 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 5: Recommendation, so there's a trusted brand and earn your leisure 197 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 5: and if Ian says go by Apple, which is what 198 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 5: he always seems to say, you see, I watch your podcasts, 199 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 5: market Mondays Ian says, go by Apple. People are gonna 200 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 5: trust you, guys, and potentially at least go research Apple. Right, 201 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 5: So there's an earned that's an earned media impression for 202 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 5: Apple every single time. 203 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 7: Ian says that you see the value. 204 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 5: So if you go to earned first, you're gonna not 205 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 5: only get the association with whatever brand value that thing has, 206 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 5: You're gonna be introduced to expanded audiences. It's going to 207 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 5: create all these other tentacles for your brand that will 208 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 5: automatically get you owned media impressions. Those are gonna come 209 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 5: because you convert people that way, and then you continue 210 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 5: to connect with your own media community and once you 211 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 5: start building up money, you make investment and paid and 212 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 5: it becomes this nice ecosystem that works for your brand. 213 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 4: So in marketing, they say cults become culture, meaning it's 214 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 4: more efficient to just focus on a small group of 215 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 4: people and have them be evangelist for you as opposed 216 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 4: to just trying to spread yourself too things because eventually 217 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 4: those small group of people will grow osmosis and will 218 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 4: become culture. Right, It's like the Twelve Disciples, right, Like, 219 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 4: eventually this becomes two billion Christians around the world. What's 220 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 4: your thoughts on that, because that's something that a lot 221 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 4: of people don't really do effectively either, Like they come 222 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 4: out the gate and. 223 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 7: Just try to just be all things to old people as. 224 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 4: Opposed to really honing in and building a very small, 225 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 4: tight knit community and then. 226 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 7: Kind of just like that one percent. 227 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 5: I am always about vertical versus horizontal strategy. So it's 228 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 5: like zero in on who your core audience is and 229 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 5: hyper hyper penetrate that audience, So get them in every 230 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 5: place that they are passionate. So if your audience works 231 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 5: nine to five, you probably should be targeting them from 232 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 5: six to ten, you know what I mean. But if 233 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 5: your audience is, if your audience as creative, if you 234 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 5: have to figure out where those key touch points are 235 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 5: for them and hyper focus on those areas because you 236 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 5: want to get them when their mindset is in the 237 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 5: thing that they are passionate about. So it's not necessarily 238 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 5: just getting them, it's connecting with them in emotional moments 239 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 5: that makes sense for them so that they remember you. 240 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 6: When you talked about paid media and you said you 241 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 6: go under the line. And I'm wondering, now, if you're 242 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 6: doing that vertical method, how do you sell lack the 243 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 6: influencers the media, because a lot of times we'll hear 244 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 6: black media, right, But when we think of that, we'll 245 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 6: stick and we'll stay in that familiarity. But we won't 246 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 6: get that notoriety from other brands. So how did you 247 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 6: or how do you navigate through that? 248 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 5: It's again, it's nuanced because you have to prioritize what's 249 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 5: most important to you first, right, Like, so if the 250 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 5: segment of the population is I want eighteen to thirty 251 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 5: four year olds first, right, there's a certain age group 252 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 5: that you want to target. 253 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 7: And then you might say. 254 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 5: Well, out of the eighteen and thirty four, I think 255 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 5: that our brand skews more male, right, which is a 256 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 5: little unique now with gender fluidity. But you know, there's 257 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 5: do you do you target male conversations versus women conversations? 258 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 5: All of those things? And then once you figure that out, 259 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 5: you start to say, is there a factor around race? 260 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 5: Is there a factor around geo targeting? 261 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: Like? 262 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 5: Do I target Brooklyn? Like you said, Brooklyn's your number 263 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 5: one audience versus weho Los Angeles? Right, So you start 264 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 5: to zero in on where your bullseye is and you 265 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 5: spend the most of your time in that space. But 266 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 5: you also look at the whole of that segment as well. 267 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 7: Does that make sense? 268 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 5: So you're not trying to get twenty five to fifty 269 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 5: four year roles, You're trying to get as many eighteen 270 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 5: to thirty four year roles as possible, and then within 271 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 5: that you're carving out sub segments to figure out how 272 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 5: to connect with them. 273 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 7: And you do that based on a number of things. 274 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 275 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,239 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. 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