1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,119 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, but it is Tuesday February 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,079 Speaker 1: fourteenth in Hong Kong, Monday February in New York and 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: coming up today. US equities push higher as traders look 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: next to key consumer price data the US as it 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: plans to sell more crude from its strategic petroleum reserve. 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Ford will invest three and a half billion dollars in 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: the US battery plant with support from a Chinese partner, 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: Efforts to set up a meeting between Top four and 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: ministers of US and China this week. Pentagon says the 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: three objects shot down over the week imposed air safety concerns. 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: Turkey Syria death toll approaches forty thousand. I'med Baxter with 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: Global News. His name Marst time in Paris close to 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: coming to an end and swarts, but I'll have that 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: story more coming up in Bloomberg Sports. That's all straight 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Asia on Bloomberg eleven three on 16 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: New York, Bloomberg Washington, d C, bloo Bird one six one, Boston, 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: Bloomberg nine six, San Francisco, Sirius x M one nineteen 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg Radio dot Com and 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: via the Bloomberg Business Act. Good morning, I'm de Prisoner 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: and I'm Brian Curtis. Here are the stories we're following today. 21 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: We'll get u S CPI data for January tomorrow at 22 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: eight thirty in the morning Wall Street Time. Let's get 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: the story from Bloomberg's Michael McKee. Starting with the good 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: news headline, Inflation is forecast to have fallen again in January, 25 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: but that's because of base effects, the fact that it 26 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: was higher last year at this time. The bad news 27 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: is on a month to month basis, January price is 28 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: likely rose at a faster pace. Some things like gasoline 29 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: and used cars rose in price, but the government is 30 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: also rejiggering its seasonal adjustments of the way it puts 31 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: on various sectors that will give the CPI a statistical boost. 32 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: Bottom line, markets in the Fed will likely look through 33 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: the report anticipating some reversion this if Fed doesn't meet 34 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: again until March twenty two. Michael McKee, Bloomberg Daybreak asient, well, 35 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: it is clear that markets are reassessing how high US 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: interest rates will rise this year. Today we heard from 37 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: Fed Governor Michelle Bowman, and she is expecting more hikes. 38 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: She thinks it's likely necessary to bring inflation down to 39 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: the FEDS two percent target. We are still far from 40 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: achieving price stability, and I expect that it will be 41 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: necessary to further tighten monetary policy to bring down inflation 42 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: down towards our goal. Doing so will likely lead to 43 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: subdued growth in economic activity and some softening in labor 44 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: market conditions. Now Bowman went on to say the cost 45 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: of persistent inflation is greater than the risk from higher 46 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: interest rates. Back in December, FED officials forecast at a 47 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: peak in the Fed funds rate of it around five 48 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: point one percent this year. Those estimates will be updated 49 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: next month. The Biden administration plans to sell more crude 50 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Bloomberg's and Kate's reports 51 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: the non emergency sale amount to twenty six million barrels 52 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: of crude, with the deliveries estimated to happen between April 53 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: and June. It as part of the congressionly mandated sale 54 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: lawmakers approved in twenty For the current fiscal year, the 55 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: Energy Department has sought to stop some of the requirements 56 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: so it can refill the emergency reserve, which currently has 57 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: three d seventy one million barrels and will drop to 58 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: three D forty five million after this latest release. The 59 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: White House decided to tap crude from the oil reserve 60 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: and an effort to lower prices. After Russia's invasion of 61 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: Ukraine last year in Washington and Kate's Bloomberg daybreak Asia, 62 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: European Union officials have raised their forecast for economic growth 63 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: in the euro Area this year. The combination of a 64 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: mild winter and high levels of gas storage have helped 65 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: to ease and energy crisis, and the EU Commission said 66 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: a recession would be narrowly avoided. Even so, EU Economy 67 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: Commissioner Paolo Gentiloni struck a more cautious tone. Risks to 68 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: this forecast appears to be balanced. While pastries related to 69 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: pandemic and gas shortages have ebbed significantly, Uncertainty remains very high, 70 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: also in relation to the war and to the geopolitical tension. Now. 71 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: EU forecast show that all member states will achieve growth 72 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: this year, the only exception being Sweden, It's expected to 73 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: contract by around eight tenths of one percent. Ford is 74 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: charging ahead with plans to build a US battery plant 75 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: with a Chinese partner. More from Bloomberg's Denise Pellegrini. Ford 76 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: is investing three and a half billion dollars in this 77 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: EV plant near Kalamazoo, Michigan, and in a controversial move, 78 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: it is contracting China's contemporary Amperex technology to help it 79 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: set up and staff the facility. The US automaker will 80 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: be operating it under a wholly owned subsidiary, and Ford 81 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: is aiming to create jobs and take advantage of tax 82 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: breaks for the location. The announcements a bit marred, though, 83 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: by some political events. Earlier, Virginia Governor Glen young and 84 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: pulled his state from consideration for the factory. Youncan called 85 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 1: it all a trojan horse for the Chinese Communist Party. 86 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: Denise Peligrini, Bloomberg Day, Bracasia. Like you mentioned the survey 87 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: by the New York Federal Reserve. It showed that one 88 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: year inflation expectations were little change last month. Anything that 89 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: points to possible disinflation in wages is being seen as 90 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: positive for risk assets. Doesn't mean we won't see an 91 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: uptick tomorrow, but still positive for the market. Well, you're 92 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: absolutely right about that, but I think in the bigger 93 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: picture here, the Fed seems intent on maybe creating a 94 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: bit of an insurance policy. That seemed to be the 95 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: message from Bowman today. And if you look at what 96 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: Marco Kolanovitch is saying over JP Morgan, the noted strategist 97 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: is turning defensive. He is recommending fading this year's rally 98 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: and equities. I was looking on the system today. You know, 99 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: the S and P up eight percent nearly since the 100 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: beginning of the year, but Kalanovitch says there is really 101 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: a risk of recession, and that is not christ into 102 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: the equity market. I don't have a lot of sympathy 103 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: with you know, we rose so much in in January 104 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,119 Speaker 1: and it was up six and a quarter percent or whatever. 105 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: Because the S and P fell seven percent in December. 106 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: It's really just sideways over the past couple of months. 107 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: I get all the arguments, I see that and everything, 108 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: but I think a lot a lot of people in 109 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: the market are just sort of in chop mode, waiting 110 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: to see what happens. A quick comment here on on 111 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: Kazu Kazuo Ada coming today. It looks like any thoughts 112 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: on whether or not that's a hawkish or a devish move. 113 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be neutral at least for 114 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: the medium term here. I don't think the b o 115 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: J wants to create any more volatility than we've seen 116 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: in the currency market right now. I had noted that 117 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: we're on the week side of one thirty two against 118 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: the green back. I don't get it, because if you 119 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: Adeline's hawkish, why is the end weakening like this? It's interesting. 120 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: We had yes percole on on our area yesterday. He said, 121 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: who waits a scientist? He's absolutely objective, not dogmatic, not 122 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: out for a quick win, and he will be even handed. 123 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: We'll see. Now it's time for Global News. China today 124 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: is saying the United States needs to look at itself 125 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: in the mirror with regard to the shooting down of 126 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: foreign objects. Head back to will sort that out for us. 127 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: He has Global News on the nine sixty News with 128 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: San Francisco ed. Yeah, Brian, you're right, let's go through it. 129 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: The statement coming from the Foreign Ministry says that ten 130 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: US objects have passed over China recently and that it 131 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: is nothing rare for US balloons to illegally enter into 132 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: other countries airspace. It says the US needs to reflect 133 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: upon itself and change its policies. The US has denied 134 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: those charges. Meanwhile, US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin says recovery 135 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: operations are in full swing to gain information on the 136 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: three objects that were shot down over the weekend. The 137 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: three objects taken down this weekend are very different from 138 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: what we were talking about last week, and says one 139 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: appears to be a small metallic balloon with small payload attached. 140 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: So at this point, US fighters have shot down four 141 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: objects in the last nine days. What's different now, Will Bloomberg. 142 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: Nick Wadhams from our National Security Team says the US 143 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: has changed radar signals, widening the aperture, and so what 144 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: you saw the three shootdowns, two in the US and 145 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: one in Canada over the last few days were things 146 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: that were deemed to be a threat to civil aviation 147 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: or drifting a little too close to military site. And 148 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: now Bloomberg is reporting that there is a move a 149 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: foot to get U S Secretary of State Anthony Blankeln 150 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: and China Foreign Minister Wang Yu to meet later this week. 151 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: What we're seeing is there is an effort by both 152 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: countries to if not get things back on track. Whatever 153 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: that meant amid amid these increased tension to at least 154 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: stop things from getting any worse. They're both gonna be 155 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: there in Munich, and I think what you're seeing is 156 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of tentative outreach. Yeah, so this meeting, 157 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: if it does happen, would be on the sidelines of 158 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: the Munich Security Summit. Meanwhile, some back channels between the 159 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: two kind trees are still open. The US embassy in 160 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:06,479 Speaker 1: Beijing is still functioning, we're told, and NATO General Secretary 161 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: Jan Stenberg says both China and Russia have been using 162 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: increased satellite and balloon surveillance of Europe as well. The 163 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: news he says, with tongue in cheek that all of 164 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: all of us have been waiting for. From White House 165 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: spokeswoman Karin Jean Pierre, there is no again, no indication 166 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: of aliens or extraterrestrial activity with these recent takedowns, so 167 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: either relief or disappointment. Hong Kong's Lands Department has added 168 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: national security clauses to all land sale and short term 169 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: lease tender documents, moving powers of government disqualify bids and 170 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: suspend short term leases due to national security reasons and 171 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: the death toll in the Turkey and Syria quakes nearing 172 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: forty thousand over thirty one thousand in Turkeys six thousand 173 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: Syria as far exceeds that of the quakes near is Stanbul, 174 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,239 Speaker 1: where eighteen thousand people eared. Officials in Turkey are considering 175 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: extending the closure of Istanbul stock market. Past Wednesday Global 176 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: News powered by more than twenty seven journalists and analysts 177 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: and over one d twenty countries. In San Francisco, I'm 178 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: at Baxter and this is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg day 179 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: Break Asia Brian Curtis and Richard Salad here in Hong Kong. 180 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,479 Speaker 1: Our guest is Toma Puluk, head of Multi Asset Solutions 181 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: in the Asia Pacific at t ro Price. Toma, thanks 182 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: very much for joining us here. Market participmates, Toma are 183 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: seeing the same data as the Fed. They don't get 184 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: anything special. How do we reconcile the don't fight the 185 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: Fed adage with the respect the price action adage? Looky 186 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: all right there? That I to agree with what was 187 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: said before about the disconnect between what is pristine and 188 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: what the FED and economists are saying. Um, I guess 189 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: the economists camp is most saying that the recission is 190 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: coming and the risk is great, doesn'tif. But when you 191 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: look at what the market is pricing, they are more 192 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: pricing a soft landing. So we need to reconcide that. 193 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: We'd agree that there's risk to the markets right now 194 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: given the evaluation is higher than what the yield environment 195 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: is suggesting, and things can be revised lower. So our 196 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: stands for now is to stay conservative defensive, but we 197 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: are looking to add to equity as the disconnect closes. 198 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: I want to pick up on something that actually Brian 199 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: was just talking about with the DOUG And you know, 200 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: we saw the SMP go up what seven eight percent 201 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: in January UM and indeed we saw also the hang 202 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: sang up by uh I think about nine percent in January. 203 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: In fact in December the big losses for other parts 204 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: of the market. Where do we go from here? And 205 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: you know the thing is that is does any type 206 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: of landing have to be priced in? Can't we just 207 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: price in actually a little bit of a slowdown? Yeah? Yeah, 208 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: you're right? Is that the it's the amount of economic 209 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: slowdown that needs to be uh gouged and it's quite 210 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: hard right now. So that's why the market and I 211 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: guess ourselves. We are more on the watch and UM 212 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: and wait for some data, especially the job market is key. 213 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: You talked before about the wage inflation. Is that the 214 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: key data. Now inflation is as peaked. Inflation is slowing, 215 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: but it's hard to see that inflation will be going 216 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: back to two percent anytime soon. So there will be 217 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: a sticky inflation environment which is dependent on how wages 218 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: will will remain there, so that feed through what markets 219 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: will be UM will be pricing in and for US 220 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: it's UM. It's hard to justify evaluation as such a 221 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: high level given how yields have moved over the past year. 222 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: So for a six months horizon, with his some risk 223 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: to the downside on the equity market, So you're out 224 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: here in Asia with us UM. Let's talk a little 225 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: bit about Casuo Ueda if he becomes the next governor 226 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: of the Bank of Japan. We mentioned many of the 227 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: economists that know him and studied under him say, you know, 228 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: he's a very objective guy. He's not coming in with 229 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: a preset path. Do you believe that? Look at our 230 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: view and that was in fact true for other candidates, 231 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: is that the b O J we're not really changed 232 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: dramatically the course of its policy over the coming year. 233 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: We believe that the changes that they already made to 234 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: the yield of control will continue and can be potentially 235 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: removed or expanded in the next of the following meeting, 236 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: and that would be true under with a sn What 237 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: we are question about is that there are talks that 238 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: then we moved to the removal of the negative interest 239 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: rate policy. This is not our base case and that 240 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,359 Speaker 1: will wait quite a while. It's at best the twenty 241 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: four story or even longer. So removal of the year 242 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: of control has already been talked about and discussed by 243 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: BOG members, and we don't think there would be any 244 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: dramatic changes under with well, they're going to be changed. 245 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: I mean, whatever little bits and bobs that they do 246 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: have a great impact, as we saw in December. So 247 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, if they do even just tweak things, and 248 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure that you wouldn't disagree that they would do 249 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: that TOMA, it becomes the one way bad look at 250 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: the what the markets. So in December was the first 251 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: action and that's where the market move. I think after 252 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: if they if they expand or not, it's it's not 253 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: as big as the first step outside the yelcove control. 254 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: So that's why I don't expect the move to be 255 00:14:55,120 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: that large even if they do something. Of course, there 256 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: is still some if you look at the OS pricing 257 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: of of years, there is still some way to go higher, 258 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: but not as dramatic as the first um increment that 259 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: was done in December, so it's not one way street. 260 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: What I think many people would not understand is ditching 261 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: or widening yield curve control. It would likely mean a 262 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: strengthening of the end. But since we've been talking about CASUODA, 263 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: we've seen weakness now in the end, so why is 264 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: that happening? So I think it's more the the U 265 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: s dollars. The US dollar has had a very steep 266 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: slow downs in the peak in the fourth quarter, so 267 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: given the X the upside surprising the economic data is 268 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: that we got in the first month of the year, 269 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: the US dollar gotta strength and a bit and to 270 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: reflect that, there is also an expectation that financial conditions 271 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: eased too much, so financial conditions will be tightening and 272 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: that supports the US dollar. So I guess that's more 273 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: temporary thing of related to the us LA. But our 274 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: view is at the Japanese end. 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