WEBVTT - Historical Records: Willi Smith (feat. Humberto Leon)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, what's up people?

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<v Speaker 2>This is Questlove and an honor of Black History Month,

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<v Speaker 2>when Fridays we'll be releasing episodes of Historical Records my

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<v Speaker 2>podcast with the story Pirates. It's an explosive fusion of

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<v Speaker 2>hip hop and history, tailor made for music loving kids

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<v Speaker 2>and families. That's right, you heard right, something the entire

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<v Speaker 2>family can sit back, listen to, and enjoy together. So

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<v Speaker 2>in this episode, host Nemony learns how street guiture fashion

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<v Speaker 2>came to be with a brand new hip hop track

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<v Speaker 2>about fashion pioneer Willie Smith, featuring an interview between fashion

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<v Speaker 2>designer Humberto Leon and an eight year old fashion lover

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<v Speaker 2>from New York named Olivia. Get your kids, Sit back

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<v Speaker 2>and enjoy Historical Records, the show that proves that in

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<v Speaker 2>order to make history, you have to make some noise.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi listeners, Neminy here in the ballroom of the Secret Bunker,

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<v Speaker 3>reporting to you live Fashion's biggest night of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>In just a moment, Tina and the other raccoons are

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<v Speaker 3>gonna try on all my clothes and hit the runway.

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<v Speaker 3>We're expecting a lot of different looks out of my

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<v Speaker 3>closet tonight, and we're hopeful that will find at least

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<v Speaker 3>one outfit that I am still willing to wear. I've

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<v Speaker 3>just received word from Tina that the show is starting. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>and here comes the first model down the runway. It's

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<v Speaker 3>Tina standing on top of four other raccoons, so they're

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<v Speaker 3>the same height as me. And look at this. They're

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<v Speaker 3>wearing my favorite simple black dress. Now, this dress is

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<v Speaker 3>very special to me. I got it during my junior

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<v Speaker 3>year of college. I wear it to eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 3>the nice events I have to attend, and it's honestly

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<v Speaker 3>starting to get a little scratching in the shoulders. It

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<v Speaker 3>is pretty, but it's also pretty tired and should probably

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<v Speaker 3>be cut up and repurposed into kitchen rags. Sorry, Tina,

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<v Speaker 3>that one is not happening. But don't worry, listeners. We've

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<v Speaker 3>got two more, hopefully passable options to see, and here

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<v Speaker 3>they come again. Wow. This next piece coming down the

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<v Speaker 3>runway is a real stutter, also being worn by five

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<v Speaker 3>raccoons standing on top of each other. This one is

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<v Speaker 3>a floral pant suit, and it looks like the raccoons

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<v Speaker 3>are having some fun up there.

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<v Speaker 1>We love to see.

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<v Speaker 3>It, but does this dress still work for me? I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not so sure it does, Tina. This is an outfit

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<v Speaker 3>that I wore once for my cousin's wedding and then

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<v Speaker 3>never wore again. Did it look good at the time, Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I bring myself to wear it again? Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 3>No one said fashion was easy. Side note. Is there

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<v Speaker 3>anything more adorable than the sound of a crowd of

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<v Speaker 3>raccoons being bummed out? I think not now. This last

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<v Speaker 3>outfit coming down the runway once again, being worn by

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<v Speaker 3>five raccoons standing on top of one another, is a

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<v Speaker 3>vampire tape. Vampire tape and a vampire wig. It's my

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<v Speaker 3>Halloween costume from last year. I was a vampire. Stop

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<v Speaker 3>the music, Tina, None of these options work. I have

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<v Speaker 3>a confession to make Scientists. International magazine is doing a

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<v Speaker 3>big feature on scientists who live in top secret underground bunkers,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're sending a photographer here today to howurd top

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<v Speaker 3>secret underground bunker to take a picture of me. I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason I ask you and the other raccoons to

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<v Speaker 3>do this fashion show is because I have absolutely nothing

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<v Speaker 3>glamorous to wear.

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<v Speaker 4>Its historical records.

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<v Speaker 5>You are now listening to historical.

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<v Speaker 3>To make history, you got to have struggles. To make history,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to show poys cannot be quiet loud that

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<v Speaker 3>so rye. To make history, you gotta make some noise.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to Historical Records, where we conduct highly experimental

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<v Speaker 3>experiments combining history and hip hop. Today's episode is about

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<v Speaker 3>the pioneering fashion designer Willie Smith. But we'll get to

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<v Speaker 3>Willy in a minute. Right now, I'm in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of my own fashion disasser. I agree the vampire costume

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<v Speaker 3>is funny, but I need to impress my fellow scientists,

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<v Speaker 3>not make them laugh. My boring black dress, my floral

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<v Speaker 3>pants suit, my vampire Halloween costume. None of these outfits

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<v Speaker 3>feel like they're really gonna wow anyone. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>wow people. What do you mean you have just the thing? Dana?

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<v Speaker 3>Where are you calling? Oh? Okay, the spotlight on the

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<v Speaker 3>runway is back. Uh. Our next model is about to

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<v Speaker 3>come down the runway, where what she assures me is

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<v Speaker 3>the greatest outfit of all time. Yes, there she is

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<v Speaker 3>Tina the Raccoon, and it appears that she is wearing

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<v Speaker 3>a dress made entirely of garbage. Okay, no raccoons, Thanks

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<v Speaker 3>for your help, but I can't wear a dress made

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<v Speaker 3>of trash for my big photo shoot. This is Scientist's

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<v Speaker 3>international magazine we're talking about. It's like the biggest publication

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<v Speaker 3>amongst scientists who are international and who also read magazines.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Tina, I knew you'd understand. Let's look in my

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<v Speaker 3>closet one more time in case I missed something. Hello,

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<v Speaker 3>cute and fancy clothes, where are you? Hmm Nope, No

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<v Speaker 3>fancy impressive clothes in here, Just a bunch of useless junk.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, how have I never noticed this hit

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<v Speaker 3>door before? Just as I suspected, this door leads to

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<v Speaker 3>a gigantic closet. Closet clu Oh no, this is a library.

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<v Speaker 3>That tiny door just led to the library. Wait a second,

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe one of the historians can help me find something

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<v Speaker 3>to wear, Gabe, lay anyone in here. I need a

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<v Speaker 3>historian who also has the fashion seens, if possible. What

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<v Speaker 3>was that? And where is all this smoke coming from?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh high, niminy, Gabe? What was that huge kaboom sound?

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry about that.

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<v Speaker 6>I've just been testing out the latest design for my

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<v Speaker 6>history simulator. Want to give it a try? Well I

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<v Speaker 6>kind of need Come on, it'll just take a second. Here,

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<v Speaker 6>put on this helmet.

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<v Speaker 3>M okay, I guess this helmet is kind of cute.

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<v Speaker 6>Now climb up here and slide down this tube a

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<v Speaker 6>new love a slide, and get ready to get blasted

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<v Speaker 6>off in this gigantic old timey cannon like the kind

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<v Speaker 6>they have at the Sir, I guess I thought.

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<v Speaker 3>You said this was a history simulator.

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<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 6>It just so happens to be shaped like a gigantic

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<v Speaker 6>old timey cannon, like.

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<v Speaker 1>The kind they have at the Circus.

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<v Speaker 6>But instead of launching this space, it launches you through time.

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<v Speaker 3>Gabe. You and I both know I love traveling through history,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't know that I want to be launched

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<v Speaker 3>through history.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry about it. I'll do it with you.

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<v Speaker 5>Mmm.

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<v Speaker 7>Got it.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's sit in here, an astute observation and an improvement

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<v Speaker 6>I'll make in version two point zero.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, this is only the first draft of your time cannon.

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<v Speaker 6>I prefer history simulator shape like a gigantic Old timey cannon,

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<v Speaker 6>like the kind they have.

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<v Speaker 1>At the Circus. But yes, this is the first draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's simulate history.

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<v Speaker 3>This is safe, right, Gabe.

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<v Speaker 6>Honestly I'm still working out the kinks.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait what see, what's.

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<v Speaker 1>Look beneath us.

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<v Speaker 6>That's all of human history, and it's flying right by us.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of feels like we're flying right by next.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're getting it.

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<v Speaker 6>Remember to tuck and roll when you lando tucking roll

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<v Speaker 6>when you boo, I was saying, never mind you, Okay, Gabe,

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<v Speaker 6>can I.

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<v Speaker 3>Give you some constructive feedback on your history? Simulator shape

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<v Speaker 3>like a gigantic old timey cannon, like the kind they

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<v Speaker 3>have at the circus.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a long name. I know, I'm working on it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not what I was gonna say. Look over there,

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<v Speaker 3>is that a fashion show?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a look.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wait a minute, where are we This doesn't look

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<v Speaker 3>like a normal fashion show.

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<v Speaker 6>You're right, it's the early nineteen eighties and we're at

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<v Speaker 6>the Alvin Ailey American Dance Theater in New York City.

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<v Speaker 3>A dance studio.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep.

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<v Speaker 6>Alvin Ailey was a famous choreographer who fused ballet, jazz, theater,

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<v Speaker 6>and modern dance with narratives about black life.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Alvin Ailey sounds cool, But if we're doing a

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<v Speaker 3>fashion show in a dance studio, the designer probably isn't

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<v Speaker 3>that good.

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<v Speaker 6>Are you sure about that? Take a closer look at

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<v Speaker 6>the crowd.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, is that Spike Lee, the famous film director?

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<v Speaker 3>M h and keep herring. Oh, he's one of my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite artists.

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<v Speaker 6>And sitting right next to him is Andrew Whitten aka Zephyr,

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<v Speaker 6>a legend in the graffiti world.

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<v Speaker 3>Is everyone in this audience somewhat interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep?

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<v Speaker 6>Each of them is a luminary in their field, most

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<v Speaker 6>from the New York fashion scene.

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<v Speaker 3>So whose fashion show is this?

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<v Speaker 1>The lights are going down, let's watch and find out together.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, these models are all so beautiful and unique.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of them are tall, some of them are shorts,

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<v Speaker 3>some are bigger, some are smaller. I see different shades

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<v Speaker 3>of skin men and women. Is this what every fashion

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<v Speaker 3>show was like in the nineteen eighties?

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<v Speaker 6>Not at all for the nineteen eighties. This is incredibly diverse.

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<v Speaker 3>And these clothes, shapes and colors and fabrics. I love

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<v Speaker 3>everything I'm seeing. I have to know who the designer is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here he comes.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 6>His name is Willie Smith and we're at a show

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<v Speaker 6>for his popular fashion brand, Willie Ware.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's Willie Smith. He's such a talented designer. Uh okay, Gabe,

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<v Speaker 3>do you hear that sizzling sound like someone lit a

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<v Speaker 3>long wick and it's slowly burning its way towards something gigantic.

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 6>That means it's time to head back into the Ji

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<v Speaker 6>sor can hissulator. Huh uh, the gigantic circus canon history simulator.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm workshopping the name. Remember that when you wear?

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<v Speaker 3>Where are we now? And what's that delicious smell?

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<v Speaker 6>I believe you're smelling fresh doses because we're in.

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<v Speaker 1>Mumbai, India.

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<v Speaker 3>What are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 6>This is one of the places where Willy Smith got

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<v Speaker 6>his inspiration while traveling the world in search of the

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<v Speaker 6>right fabrics for his clothing. Willie didn't look to Paris

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<v Speaker 6>or Milan, but that's where all the.

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<v Speaker 3>Fashion designers find the fabrics with all the fun colors

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<v Speaker 3>and patterns.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, not exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>Willy was looking for colors and patterns, sure, but he

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<v Speaker 6>was also looking for durable fabrics that could give his

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<v Speaker 6>clothes a flowing feel in looser shapes.

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<v Speaker 3>Wooh, look at the price tag on this fabric. It's lavish,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's also affordable. That's exactly what brought Willy to India.

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<v Speaker 6>He wanted fabrics that weren't just pretty look at, but

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<v Speaker 6>that you could actually live and work in, and it

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<v Speaker 6>helped him make sure that everyone could afford his pieces.

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<v Speaker 3>So he didn't want to look in all the same

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<v Speaker 3>place as all the other designers were looking exactly smart.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, that dosa looks tasty. Maybe I'll just snag

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<v Speaker 3>a bite.

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<v Speaker 6>No time, there's more history to simulate to the historical

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<v Speaker 6>circus blaster three thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>Em that's not it either. Hey, can we go slower

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<v Speaker 3>this time? Sorry?

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<v Speaker 6>Gigantic old timey cannon like the kind they have at

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<v Speaker 6>the circus, only has one speed.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go, Man, I keep landing wrong, and now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm hungry. I really wanted that Noza niminy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a simulated dosa.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it made me simulated hungry. Where are we now?

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<v Speaker 1>We're in Harlem, New York City.

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<v Speaker 6>There's the Abyssinian Baptist Church, and there's the Apollo Theater,

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<v Speaker 6>and over there is one hundred and twenty fifth Street,

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<v Speaker 6>lined with vendors selling everything from T shirts to community

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<v Speaker 6>newspapers to incense.

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<v Speaker 3>And let me guess that's stylish. Young man over there

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<v Speaker 3>with the loose fitting dressed clothes, looking at all the

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<v Speaker 3>people and sketching in his notebook is a young Willie

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<v Speaker 3>Smith Bingo.

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<v Speaker 6>Before he started Willywere Willy Smith would walk the streets

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<v Speaker 6>of New York, strolling past black churches on Sundays, taking

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<v Speaker 6>inspiration from the women wearing their Sunday best. While other

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<v Speaker 6>fashion designers were trying to dress celebrities and the ultra rich,

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<v Speaker 6>Willie was inspired by the style of everyday working class people.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, look at that park. Those breakdancers have some pretty

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<v Speaker 3>funky moves.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the kind of park where Willie would watch

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<v Speaker 6>office workers in their old, stuffy business suits walking past

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<v Speaker 6>those breakdancers in their hip streetwear, and wonder, how can

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<v Speaker 6>I bring these two worlds together.

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<v Speaker 3>So streetwear hasn't always been a part of high.

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<v Speaker 6>Fashion, Willie was one of the first fashion designers to

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<v Speaker 6>bring influence from the streets, the clubs, and black culture

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<v Speaker 6>in general into high fashion. Without him, a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>today's streetwear brands probably wouldn't be what they are.

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<v Speaker 3>So before Willie Smith's high fashion was only for the rich,

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<v Speaker 3>and his work helped make fashion more accessible for everybody.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>In fact, one of his most famous quotes is, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't design clothes for the queen, but for the people

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<v Speaker 6>who wave at her as she goes by that.

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<v Speaker 3>But so far we're just talking about businessmen and bee boys.

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<v Speaker 3>Did Willy Smith design any clothing for women?

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, Willie Smith wasn't interested in designing solely for men

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<v Speaker 6>or for women. His brand Williware was one of the

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<v Speaker 6>first major fashion brands to design both and even include

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<v Speaker 6>plenty of gender neutral designs.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds like Willie Smith was really ahead of his time.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this the neighborhood where he grew up?

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<v Speaker 1>Not at all, He grew up in Philadelphia. Want to see?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, not more time blasting.

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<v Speaker 1>Time blasting. That's pretty good. Let's keep spitballing off that.

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<v Speaker 1>Look I can do a backflip.

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<v Speaker 6>Who we're flying?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, we're in a house. Maybe I can find some

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<v Speaker 3>cool clothes in one of these closets.

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<v Speaker 6>Wait, wait, wait, first, look around this bedroom we're in.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm, there are a lot of drawings on the walls,

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<v Speaker 3>like a lot of drawings. Is this WILLI myths room?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, it's his childhood bedroom in Philadelphia in the early

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<v Speaker 6>nineteen sixties.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at this notebook. These drawings have so much imagination

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<v Speaker 3>in them. Oh, look at all these people wearing elegant costumes.

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<v Speaker 6>Even from a young age. Willie loved to draw in

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<v Speaker 6>design clothes. His mother even told him that she knew

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<v Speaker 6>he was born to be an artist or a designer.

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<v Speaker 3>Is Willy here right now?

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<v Speaker 1>He's not home.

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<v Speaker 6>His mom and grandma have taken him to the Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 6>Museum of Art, something they did frequently.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I love that museum.

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<v Speaker 1>So did Willy's family.

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<v Speaker 6>They encouraged his love of drawing clothing and took.

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<v Speaker 1>Him to the museum to sketch.

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<v Speaker 6>They didn't have a lot of money, but they did

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<v Speaker 6>have style, and after his parents divorced, Willy's grandma encouraged

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<v Speaker 6>him to continue pursuing his dreams of working in fashion design.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds like his upbringing was a really big influence on him.

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<v Speaker 6>Indeed, Willie's friend, former neighbor and fashion editor Kim Hastrider

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<v Speaker 6>once said what would make Willy proud was not when

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<v Speaker 6>a movie star wore his clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>He would burst with pride.

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<v Speaker 6>When he'd see black kids on the street running around

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<v Speaker 6>in his stuff, or those black ladies at the bank

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<v Speaker 6>wearing it to work.

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<v Speaker 3>How sweet? Okay, now about those closets.

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<v Speaker 6>Nimity, they're simulated closets full of simulated clothes.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I can still try them on can't. I.

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<v Speaker 6>But there's so much more to see to the super big,

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<v Speaker 6>super old circuits reminiscent history simulating blasting machine.

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<v Speaker 3>That's an even worse and longer name than before. Wait,

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<v Speaker 3>why are we in a comic book shop?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I wanted to talk about Willy Smith's legacy. Sadly,

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<v Speaker 6>as his company was making record profits, Willy's success in

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<v Speaker 6>the fashion world was cut short when he passed away

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<v Speaker 6>in nineteen eighty seven at the age of thirty nine,

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<v Speaker 6>due to complications from AIDS.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so young.

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<v Speaker 6>Unfortunately, Yes, the AIDS epidemic of the nineteen eighties took

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<v Speaker 6>away man any of our best artists and leaders, especially

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<v Speaker 6>those in the LGBTQ community, But Willy's influence can still

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<v Speaker 6>be felt everywhere. His designs were worn by famous dancers

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<v Speaker 6>in Spike Lee movies like School Days, and even in

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<v Speaker 6>the pages of this comic book Spider Man Yep. In

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<v Speaker 6>the issue where Peter Parker and Mary Jane finally get married,

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<v Speaker 6>Mary Jane's wedding grace was designed by none other than

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<v Speaker 6>Willie Smith. Now follow me outside this bronze plaque right

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<v Speaker 6>here on the seventh Avenue Fashion Walk of Fame in

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<v Speaker 6>New York City commemorates Willie Smith and his contribution to fashion.

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<v Speaker 6>In nineteen eighty eight, one year after his death, New

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<v Speaker 6>York City's first black Mayor, David Dinkins proclaimed February twenty

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<v Speaker 6>third as Willie Smith Day in New York City.

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<v Speaker 3>February twenty third.

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<v Speaker 6>That's today, Well it is here in the simulation. Oh boy,

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<v Speaker 6>speaking of look at the time space. We really should

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<v Speaker 6>be heading back home. Un Hey, nice landing.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks. I've had lots of practice with the gigantic old

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<v Speaker 3>timey cannon, like the kind they have at the circus.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe you mean the time cannon.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the official name you're going with.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't that what I called it the very first time

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<v Speaker 3>I got in?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep?

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<v Speaker 3>And didn't you tell me you prefer gigantic old timey cannon,

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<v Speaker 3>like the kind they have at the circus.

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<v Speaker 1>I've grown and I've changed fair anyway. That was fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I had a blast, literally, But also I learned

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<v Speaker 3>how to look at fashion in a totally different way.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I was thinking about my photo shoot all wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder what Willie would suggest I wear something practical

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<v Speaker 3>and yet somehow still cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you have a song to record.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you're right, I nearly forgot to the recording studio.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye Gabe. Wow, All right, listeners, check out this brand

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<v Speaker 3>new song all about Willie Smith.

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<v Speaker 8>When people even nain't Willie Smith, I want them to

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<v Speaker 8>think that this is a person who cares enough about

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<v Speaker 8>them that he's taking the time to design and create

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<v Speaker 8>and think for them, like all Lellens of America.

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<v Speaker 7>I could tell you what sale how I was supposed

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<v Speaker 7>to fail, but then I ended up sailing with all

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<v Speaker 7>the boats and whales. Before I was selling clothes, I

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<v Speaker 7>had hope for sale, and even at a discount. It

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<v Speaker 7>was so for real. Grew up in Hilladelkh had a

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<v Speaker 7>little help, Nope, a lot of help. My mother and

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<v Speaker 7>my father told me to go for self. Got it

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<v Speaker 7>to yourself, do your best, get it gone and you

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<v Speaker 7>can get coins. But true freedom is the wealth. Willie,

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<v Speaker 7>that's my name came into game. We'll get into all

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<v Speaker 7>of that, but for now I'm saying I'm conveying my

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<v Speaker 7>joy struggle. My joy not different from so many other

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<v Speaker 7>black boys. And I knew there was a world that

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<v Speaker 7>was almost had a reason. But I had to learn

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<v Speaker 7>lessons that nobody could see tablets full of design and fabric.

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<v Speaker 9>Because it's your fashion.

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<v Speaker 7>It is one thing. The style is another, my choice.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm afreedom to love imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>Brand new, but it's still classic.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I made clothes. Yes, I love to sew. I

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<v Speaker 7>possessed the fashion that I ain't even know. I knew

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<v Speaker 7>I had to grow. And you know I love Philly,

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<v Speaker 7>but New York City, Yeah, I knew I had to go.

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<v Speaker 7>My best decision him lines crafted with so much precision.

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<v Speaker 1>You could see the fishing.

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<v Speaker 9>A few people.

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<v Speaker 7>Mentioned that it wasn't up to snuff, but eventually everybody

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<v Speaker 7>was loving my stuff. My mind went to another place

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<v Speaker 7>to create something live. The colors more vibrant, my own

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<v Speaker 7>little island where I could spend time on the shore,

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<v Speaker 7>getting close to the source.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm smiling.

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<v Speaker 7>Now got a new clothing line. Yeah, it's finally out, Willie.

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<v Speaker 10>Where hit it in?

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<v Speaker 7>Get it there everywhere?

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<v Speaker 5>I swear.

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<v Speaker 7>I think back to the famous line, clothes don't make

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<v Speaker 7>the man unless you wear. In mind my joy, the

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<v Speaker 7>scene is overdone. It's supposed to be fun, but how

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<v Speaker 7>they want to say? So, let's go on and give

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<v Speaker 7>them so. I walked the line from the Harle of

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<v Speaker 7>Renaissance to de boys are richer now for the culture.

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<v Speaker 7>No decoys, street bustle and loud.

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<v Speaker 1>Crowns, sweet noise.

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<v Speaker 7>These are the things I mean when I speak joy

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<v Speaker 7>in twenty five mail offt designs.

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<v Speaker 1>I chose so you can chill or if you.

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<v Speaker 9>Want to profile and pose.

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<v Speaker 7>And I don't make clothes for the queen. I'm making

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<v Speaker 7>for the people on the street who wave at the limousine.

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<v Speaker 7>I did it for us, those kids on the front,

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<v Speaker 7>stupid beautiful ladies who need a cute new suits. You

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<v Speaker 7>don't have to be safe to have taste. Make it oversize,

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<v Speaker 7>plus neon, green and ad lace whatever. I lived my

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<v Speaker 7>life with no regrets. Being true to my self meant

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<v Speaker 7>more than my success. I never claimed to be the

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<v Speaker 7>greatest of the best. I just wanted you to be

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<v Speaker 7>well dressed, and it's my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 9>Joy stretch your arms out as far as you can,

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<v Speaker 9>your hands right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Where you stand.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back after a few words. For the

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<v Speaker 3>grown ups. What a song the intercom buzzing, Well, I

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<v Speaker 3>guess that means the photographers here don't worry, Tina. I

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<v Speaker 3>figured it all out for my big photo shoot to

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<v Speaker 3>be featured in Scientists International magazine. I've decided that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just going to wear my normal, everyday lab coat. Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>High fashion doesn't always mean the most expensive or exclusive thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Fashion is about expression, and my lab coat is the

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<v Speaker 3>truest expression of me. It's comfy, it's functional, and a

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<v Speaker 3>nice uniform reminds me of what I do and why

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. Of course, I want to impress my colleagues,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think this lab coat might do the trick.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't need to spend a bunch of money

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<v Speaker 3>on something over the top to do that. No, you go, girl,

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<v Speaker 3>to answer the door. I need you to answer the

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<v Speaker 3>door and tell them I'll be just a minute. I

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<v Speaker 3>have an interview. Thanks Tina. All right, yeah, this helmet

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<v Speaker 3>hair probably isn't it for a photoshoot or an interview

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<v Speaker 3>for that matter. Today we're joined by fashion designer Umberto

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<v Speaker 3>Leon and an amazing kid named Olivia. Can you too

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<v Speaker 3>introduce yourselves?

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<v Speaker 4>Hi?

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<v Speaker 10>I'm Olivia, I'm eight years old and I live in

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<v Speaker 10>New York.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Umberto Leon and I'm co founder of Opening Ceremony

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<v Speaker 4>and was the former creative director of Kenzo and I

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<v Speaker 4>live in California.

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<v Speaker 10>Umberto. Did you know I'm half Chinese too?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, I have daughters that are nine years

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<v Speaker 4>old and they look a little bit like you. So

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to ask you if you are half Chinese?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you speak it?

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<v Speaker 3>I know a bit.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. What dialect does your family speak?

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<v Speaker 10>I think we speak Cantonese.

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<v Speaker 5>Whoa, that's what I speak actually.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Olivia, what's your first question for Umberto?

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<v Speaker 10>Why'd you become a fashion designer?

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<v Speaker 5>That's a great question.

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<v Speaker 4>When I was younger, I didn't know that being a

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<v Speaker 4>fashion designer was a job, you know. I I just

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<v Speaker 4>went to the mall and I saw clothing. I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>really think anything about that. And so I got my

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<v Speaker 4>first job working at a store. Have you ever heard

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<v Speaker 4>of the store called the Gap?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I started selling clothes and then my manager said, you

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<v Speaker 4>look like you would really like dressing the mannequins. So

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<v Speaker 4>then I started dressing the mannequins, and then I started

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<v Speaker 4>to do other stores mannequins and windows, and through that

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<v Speaker 4>experience it led me to eventually becoming a fashion designer.

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<v Speaker 10>Did you ever make clothes for your own parents?

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<v Speaker 4>So, growing up, my mom had three kids and the

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<v Speaker 4>only job she could take was to sew clothing for

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<v Speaker 4>a factory at home so that she could watch the kids.

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<v Speaker 4>And so she actually made clothes for me growing up

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<v Speaker 4>because I would see all these clothing in magazines and

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<v Speaker 4>I really loved it, but I couldn't afford it at

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<v Speaker 4>the time. So my mom decided to make all this

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<v Speaker 4>clothing for me. And so as I got to be

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<v Speaker 4>an adult, I wanted to repay that by doing things

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<v Speaker 4>for her. So I started to design clothing for her,

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<v Speaker 4>which was really really fun.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, that's so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you become interested in fashion? Olivia?

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<v Speaker 10>And my family's related to fashion a lot too, because

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<v Speaker 10>my great grandmother she was a seamstress, and my grandmother

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<v Speaker 10>she makes me dresses, and my mom used to work

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<v Speaker 10>for Vera Wang before I was born.

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<v Speaker 4>Did your mom save a lot of her clothing that

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<v Speaker 4>she got from your grandmother or that she made.

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<v Speaker 5>Did she save a lot of it for you?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah? And my mom told me a long time ago

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<v Speaker 10>that Vera Wang made Mommy her wedding dress and she's

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<v Speaker 10>going to pass it on to me for my wedding.

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<v Speaker 5>That is so so special.

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<v Speaker 4>And Vera Wang is such a special designer because she's

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<v Speaker 4>one of the first Asian women to really make it

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<v Speaker 4>in the fashion.

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<v Speaker 3>World, Olivia, do you have any questions for Umberto about

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<v Speaker 3>Willie Smith?

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<v Speaker 10>So when you were younger, did Willie Smith any influence

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<v Speaker 10>on your work?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I grew up loving Willie Smith's work so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Willy was really inspired by what people wore on the streets,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, at the time, I think a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people were looking towards what they called high fashion,

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<v Speaker 4>and high fashion was interesting and it was cool, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was exclusive.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you know what that word exclusive means?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think so not really, okay, So exclusive means

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<v Speaker 4>like it's only for a really small group of people

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<v Speaker 4>who could afford it or who could find it. So

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<v Speaker 4>Willie went out to create fashion and clothing for everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the things that is super super big that

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<v Speaker 4>he did is he created clothing that was genderless. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think that type of thinking when he was doing

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<v Speaker 4>this in the seventies and eighties was really really big

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<v Speaker 4>because at this time people were making clothes specifically like

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<v Speaker 4>girls had to wear this and boys had to wear this.

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<v Speaker 4>So he was really breaking the boundaries in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>what clothing means. I mean, I'll should a t shirt

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<v Speaker 4>be for boys or for girls?

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<v Speaker 10>Like, what do you think I think they should be

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<v Speaker 10>for both?

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<v Speaker 4>I totally agree with you. Why can't boys wear dresses?

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<v Speaker 4>Or why is pinka color for girls? I think that

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of the world has kind of put things

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<v Speaker 4>into buckets that don't need to exist. Everybody should be

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<v Speaker 4>able to wear anything they want to wear, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think that was Willy's idea. Willie Smith really changed what

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<v Speaker 4>fashion is and how people could participate in fashion.

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<v Speaker 3>Olivia, is there anything else you'd like to ask Comberto

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<v Speaker 3>before we say goodbye?

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<v Speaker 10>What's your favorite part of being a fashion designer.

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<v Speaker 4>One of my favorite things that I get to do

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<v Speaker 4>is I get to create something from nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>I also love clothing from all around the world.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like there's so many amazing kind of clothing

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<v Speaker 4>that you see people wear for function.

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<v Speaker 5>So I love to think about function.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, where are you going to put your pockets,

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<v Speaker 4>what are you going to be carrying when you're wearing

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<v Speaker 4>those pants, or what are you going to be carrying

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<v Speaker 4>when you going on that hike. So it's almost like

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<v Speaker 4>a puzzle piece where you're designing, what you're thinking about

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<v Speaker 4>all these things that you want to make sure it does.

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<v Speaker 10>I think fashion takes like a lot of work. Like

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<v Speaker 10>for me, I sit down and fashion clocks and two

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<v Speaker 10>minutes later, my hands are covered in glue and I'm

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<v Speaker 10>sweating and there's fabric all over the place. And if

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<v Speaker 10>I ever made clothes, what style of advice did you

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<v Speaker 10>have for me other kids my age?

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<v Speaker 4>It's okay when you're designing to think a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>more wild and crazy, like don't hold back. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's the best advice.

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<v Speaker 5>I could give to you.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, you and your career sounds so awesome, and thank

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<v Speaker 10>you for talking with me.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>I honestly loved all these questions you asked. You seem

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<v Speaker 4>like you're so well informed, and I hope to one

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<v Speaker 4>day meet you and maybe help you with your fashion ideas.

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<v Speaker 5>It sounds like you have a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I love that, and I think that anything that

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<v Speaker 4>you could take away from this conversation that inspires you means.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot to me.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank you, Emberte, goodbye.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much, see you later.

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<v Speaker 3>What a great interview. I can't wait to see the

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<v Speaker 3>designs that Olivia comes up with someday, and I already

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<v Speaker 3>love Humberto Leone's designs, so I really loved getting to

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<v Speaker 3>hear more about where he gets his inspiration. Thanks Tina,

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<v Speaker 3>Tell the photographer, I'll be there in a minute. Let

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<v Speaker 3>me just put on my trusty lab coat and say

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<v Speaker 3>thank you to the listeners for learning all about Willie

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<v Speaker 3>Smith with me today and the nextra special thank you

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<v Speaker 3>to today's guests Humberto and Olivia. Remember our parents and teachers.

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