Speaker 1: Hi.
Speaker 2: I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are you
Speaker 2: a Charlotte. Mollie Rogers is back for part two.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Molly.
Speaker 2: Michael brought up the is it the deor the huge,
Speaker 2: huge dress that we brought back in and just like that.
Speaker 3: Was it Dior, Versace, the real flour, Yeah, the mil
Speaker 3: flir Yeah yeah, Versace, yeah.
Speaker 2: Versace got it? How did it happen?
Speaker 3: There was a big Vogue spread, I think it was
Speaker 3: called Alice in Wonderland and there were dresses in that
Speaker 3: and I believe that was one of them, that gown
Speaker 3: and Pat was like, call this in for me. I
Speaker 3: want to see them, and actually call in all the
Speaker 3: gowns in that. Shoot.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And I have fitting photos of Sarah Jessica on the
Speaker 3: dirty fitting room floor pretending like she's asleep and each
Speaker 3: of those gowns.
Speaker 2: Wow, we need those pictures, Mollie.
Speaker 3: The rejects are really some of the best outfits on
Speaker 3: all of you.
Speaker 1: Oh, the region.
Speaker 4: The things that didn't make yeah, reason whatever. Oh and
Speaker 4: you you know I have the picture way back for
Speaker 4: season one probably you'll remember, and you've got a tennis
Speaker 4: outfit on and then you just played tennis in and.
Speaker 2: Just like that, I know, which is crazy, right? And
Speaker 2: also I just watched the episode where I have a little,
Speaker 2: a little, a little fling with this hasidic Jewish artist
Speaker 2: named schmool Uh what foreshadowing to Harry do you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Do you know that actor that played that guy?
Speaker 2: I vaguely remember there's some story, right, what is it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I worked with him on a cop show when no,
Speaker 3: he's adorable. He's in the Joker, the what's his name?
Speaker 3: Slices his neck up? But yeah, he told me when
Speaker 3: I met when he said, he said, I want you
Speaker 3: to know you worked on Sex and the City And
Speaker 3: I said yes, he said, I want you to know
Speaker 3: that I played the seed um wow with Charlte And
Speaker 3: I said you're kidding and he was like, and guess what,
Speaker 3: it was my first acting job.
Speaker 1: Adorable. I love to hear.
Speaker 3: That, isn't that he's such an incredible actor.
Speaker 1: Wow. I remember being very into that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would not have said that at the time.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I was trying to hide it. But when
Speaker 2: I look back at it, I'm like, what's going on
Speaker 2: with me?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 2: And I remember he was very present, you know, like
Speaker 2: in a way that a lot of the guys weren't,
Speaker 2: especially in the beginning when no one knew what the
Speaker 2: show was, right, Like, I think for the guys, and
Speaker 2: I haven't talked about this that much, but the guys
Speaker 2: kind of had to play like a girlfriend part. They
Speaker 2: weren't really used to it.
Speaker 3: You need to get into that.
Speaker 1: Don't I don't.
Speaker 2: I I don't know if I should have a guy
Speaker 2: on and try to talk to him about it. Is
Speaker 2: that weird? Molly?
Speaker 3: No, I think you know they all were. It was
Speaker 3: role reversal.
Speaker 2: It really was, and it threw them sometimes. They were
Speaker 2: just like deer in the headlights, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And I have another episode that hasn't come on yet,
Speaker 2: but I remember this, and I'm trying to get into
Speaker 2: call Hall Officiner to come on. She's she's not come
Speaker 2: on yet. I don't know why, but I'm gonna. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna pursue her, Okay, But I think I think it
Speaker 2: was one that she directed. And I have a guy
Speaker 2: and you know how Michael and Melfie and Darren would
Speaker 2: cast these like very good looking, like there was a
Speaker 2: type in the beginning, do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: And they're making right.
Speaker 1: Their type exactly.
Speaker 2: And this guy comes in, very handsome guy, and I'm
Speaker 2: supposed to be I don't know if I'm picking him
Speaker 2: up at a bar or flirting with him at a bar,
Speaker 2: or if we're meeting at a bar, but we're at
Speaker 2: a bar and he's supposed to say to me, you're
Speaker 2: so hot. So we're at this rehearsal and you know,
Speaker 2: people didn't know the show right first or second season,
Speaker 2: didn't really know the show, and numerous different actors who
Speaker 2: came in would say like, well, I'm not gonna say
Speaker 2: these lines, am I.
Speaker 1: And we'd be like, uh, yes, you are.
Speaker 2: You know, we take this seriously, like you are going
Speaker 2: to say those lines. So I'm sitting there and he's like,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it. I'm not gonna tell her
Speaker 2: she's hot. And I'm like, oh god, uh you know me?
Speaker 2: And secure me. I'm like, oh god, he doesn't think
Speaker 2: I'm hot, you know. But also, like what woman would
Speaker 2: come on to a show and say that. No woman
Speaker 2: would come onto a show and be like I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna say that that guy is hot.
Speaker 1: No one would do that.
Speaker 3: That is a fascinating story, and you need to go scratch.
Speaker 1: Okay, I will, but I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know that actor's name, and I feel bad
Speaker 2: even talking about it. It's gonna be some whack out headline.
Speaker 2: But it was truly happened, you know, it did happen.
Speaker 2: I don't want to make him feel bad, but you know,
Speaker 2: he was like, I'm not gonna say that to her,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh god. And then I remember
Speaker 2: Nicole going like, well, you need you you really need
Speaker 2: to just say it to her. Just throw it just,
Speaker 2: you know, just throw it off like second, you know,
Speaker 2: like like you know nothing.
Speaker 3: You want to watch that again?
Speaker 2: Well? See, this is the joy of rewatching, right, Like,
Speaker 2: so much comes back to you. It's quite amazing. You
Speaker 2: should come back on and rewatch with me, babe.
Speaker 3: It's really fun to watch reruns.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: I never had watched them.
Speaker 3: I hadn't either, right there. I have a couple of times,
Speaker 3: and it's it holds up.
Speaker 2: It does. It's so interesting to look at I know,
Speaker 2: and we're so young, my god, we're so young.
Speaker 1: But also the thing.
Speaker 2: That I enjoy about it it moves so quickly and
Speaker 2: it's over so quickly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do we fit it all in? I know
Speaker 1: it's like bam bam, bam, bam bam.
Speaker 2: And I mean at the point that I am in
Speaker 2: the first season, we don't even really have it structured
Speaker 2: in the way that it became structured where her voiceover
Speaker 2: would tie in to you know, Meanwhile, downtown Charlotte was
Speaker 2: doing blah blah blah blah, and uptown Miranda was doing
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. You know, we're not even there yet, right,
Speaker 2: It's still very Hodgepodge and Sarah Jessica is still having
Speaker 2: to talk to the camera sometimes. Wow, but you know
Speaker 2: she's just dying inside, you know.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, can you remember that every single season?
Speaker 1: Apparently I am well fantastic. Sometimes I lay in bed.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my god, ninety eight episodes. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna watch ninety eight episodes. I know it is so
Speaker 2: much to talk about, and I really need you guys
Speaker 2: to come on and help me. Okay, we will, thank you, baby.
Speaker 3: Many of the people that have memories.
Speaker 2: I know, everyone has memories, which is joy. And I'm
Speaker 2: going to look at this list now because obviously I
Speaker 2: could just roll with you and talk about anything.
Speaker 1: But okay, look, this is a good question.
Speaker 2: Just off the top. Was there a lot of experimenting,
Speaker 2: because I remember some experimenting you guys tried to do
Speaker 2: on me that I was like, no.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think that for some reason, you Pat,
Speaker 3: you know, Pat just had this Betty Page vision of
Speaker 3: Charlotte interpreted Betty Page interpreted into the upper east side. Right,
Speaker 3: that was her head and she just wanted you so
Speaker 3: much in wiggle skirts. Oh my gosh, I hope this
Speaker 3: doesn't trigger you.
Speaker 2: It's okay.
Speaker 3: But he wanted to clip on bang on you.
Speaker 1: So she wanted it bad you guys.
Speaker 2: Pat wanted me to have the mini micro bang so
Speaker 2: badly that she took my head shot because you know,
Speaker 2: when you're doing a TV show, you have everyone's picture
Speaker 2: up on the board, right, like their head shots back
Speaker 2: in the olden days. But that's what we called it.
Speaker 1: And she drew in a mini a mini bang.
Speaker 2: And then not only that, so she wanted me to
Speaker 2: have a mini bang, but she also wanted me to
Speaker 2: have a role like like like in the forties because
Speaker 2: sometimes when I was doing my hair, we would pin
Speaker 2: it up like temporarily, okay in the you like that.
Speaker 1: Right, She wanted me to wear that like in the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's so adorable. But what I remember is like,
Speaker 2: for me, I was stressing over my idea, which was
Speaker 2: kind of very classic Upper east Side, long straight hair,
Speaker 2: very Ralph Lauren, you know, very park Avenue, park Avenue,
Speaker 2: stereotypical Park Avenue, right, not interesting park Avenue, just very
Speaker 2: like if you walked into the Ralph Laurence store and
Speaker 2: just bought head to tell Ralph Lauren, right, yeah.
Speaker 3: And the person that would also go and look at
Speaker 3: China at birds.
Speaker 2: Exactly and just happens to be an art girl. So
Speaker 2: maybe there could be some you know, something more structured
Speaker 2: than that, but not necessarily, you know, some of the.
Speaker 1: Things that that wanted.
Speaker 2: So I remember one time, and I don't remember why.
Speaker 2: It could have been the Hampton's episode that's coming when
Speaker 2: I have to pretend that I'm.
Speaker 1: Younger or whatever.
Speaker 2: But do you remember she tried to get me the
Speaker 2: Cone brother No way, Oh my gosh, so funny. Do
Speaker 2: you remember the Cone bra she tried to get me
Speaker 2: to wear. And again, this was like a Madonna Heyday
Speaker 2: type moment. It was from the store, I believe. I mean,
Speaker 2: I remember going to the store and having a fitting
Speaker 2: at some point and there was like a very tight, tight,
Speaker 2: tight tube skirt, which I was like, I can't do it, Pat,
Speaker 2: I can't pull it off. This is what you guys
Speaker 2: had to put up with me, you know for a while,
Speaker 2: right as you know, thinking like I can't wear that,
Speaker 2: and then and Pat being like what why not? You know,
Speaker 2: And then there was a like tool it had like
Speaker 2: little ruffles of tool on it, like you know, and
Speaker 2: then like a cone bra and.
Speaker 3: So wild.
Speaker 1: I know, I love it too, but I said.
Speaker 2: No, I mean it was just more photo shoot ish
Speaker 2: or something. I just it was editorial, yes, which her,
Speaker 2: you know, she just had a bigger view of everything,
Speaker 2: you know, which God love her for it, right, But
Speaker 2: for me as as a as an actor, as a
Speaker 2: as a character as you know, trying to play its character,
Speaker 2: sometimes I just felt like I couldn't go handle it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But then I feel like we found it. It
Speaker 2: just took us some time to find the middle ground
Speaker 2: of the agreed.
Speaker 3: Agreed. Then when the two of you, you know, it's you,
Speaker 3: she had her bang, you had this other idea, and
Speaker 3: you guys came together.
Speaker 2: And yeah, absolutely amazing.
Speaker 3: Archetype of a person.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, and thank goodness, she wasn't you know, as
Speaker 2: a kind of pigeonholed as I wanted her to be.
Speaker 3: And isn't it great to work with people that have
Speaker 3: strong opinions and aren't with she while she or they're
Speaker 3: not twenty cooks in the kitchen like somebody is. This
Speaker 3: is how it is.
Speaker 2: Definitely debate it, definitely, But I think that's the thing
Speaker 2: about our show. And you know, it's hard to really
Speaker 2: describe to other people. But you know, when I have
Speaker 2: gone on to other projects or other shows and maybe
Speaker 2: people aren't around all the time or they're you know,
Speaker 2: they just kind of like, well, this is just my area.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna do my area. Like that's not how
Speaker 2: you make something good?
Speaker 3: No, and when are you? I mean, I'll speak for myself.
Speaker 3: It's rare that you get to experiment or have the
Speaker 3: luxury of finding your way in something.
Speaker 1: Now, It's true, it is rare.
Speaker 2: But I think that's our whole mo like in terms
Speaker 2: of just the show in general, the fact that they
Speaker 2: let us find our way, you know, like abst you know,
Speaker 2: we didn't know.
Speaker 3: The heyday of HBO.
Speaker 2: I know, I know we're so lucky takers so good,
Speaker 2: so good. Do you remember that time you guys dressed
Speaker 2: me and I can't remember what I was doing. I
Speaker 2: was wearing a vintage thing that also involved lace, and
Speaker 2: we got I think the only note that I ever
Speaker 2: remember getting from HBO about my clothes. They said, do
Speaker 2: not put Charlotte in vintage. Do you remember this?
Speaker 1: Because it was a little bit grandma ish vintage. They
Speaker 1: thought was.
Speaker 3: It white islet or something that it was.
Speaker 2: Something like that.
Speaker 1: It was black lace. It was black lace over white.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they didn't get it. And also I think
Speaker 2: that what happened was it wasn't tight enough. Oh so
Speaker 2: it looked fluffy, you know what I'm saying, like dowdyish,
Speaker 2: grandma e vintage, And so they didn't necessarily understand. They
Speaker 2: were like, no vintage, and you guys were like, what
Speaker 2: you know, how dare you.
Speaker 3: Place?
Speaker 2: It was a little tiny moment. I don't think it lasted,
Speaker 2: you know. But also the other thing was that they
Speaker 2: didn't I don't think they probably realized that Sarah's four
Speaker 2: coat was vented. Like there were so many vintage things
Speaker 2: that you had from the get go, oh.
Speaker 3: My god, and that we could afford, which you can
Speaker 3: barely afford vintage.
Speaker 2: Now I know it.
Speaker 3: In a great way, in a good way, in a
Speaker 3: sad way, and whatever.
Speaker 2: It's so true, it's so so true. Who did you
Speaker 2: enjoy dressing the most?
Speaker 3: Molly? Now? That is no one in their right mind
Speaker 3: is going to choose their favorite child.
Speaker 1: See that's why I didn't ask her.
Speaker 2: That's why I didn't ask her. But okay, so let's
Speaker 2: just go over a little bit vague vague notes for
Speaker 2: all of us.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, you know I have the receipts. I can
Speaker 3: look through photos and I can remember, you know, some
Speaker 3: of the you know, mind numbing things fitting Cynthia Nixon
Speaker 3: when she was actually pregnant and fitting her when she
Speaker 3: was show pregnant. Right, those moments that you know, pregnant
Speaker 3: season shows are really really tough, aren't they. You remember
Speaker 3: the little things like I don't know what they do now,
Speaker 3: but I remember it. The thing that everybody just said
Speaker 3: you had to use was bird seed for the.
Speaker 2: Boobs, which makes no sense. I don't really understand, so Dinosaury, now, yeah, like,
Speaker 2: why why would they say that? It's so interesting? Do
Speaker 2: you remember when I Charlotte gets pregnant and we got
Speaker 2: the fake belly and it had a belly button and
Speaker 2: Michael Patrick was like, no, that's disgusting.
Speaker 3: That is one of my favorite Charlotte outfits with big s.
Speaker 1: The door. Yeah, the door was good.
Speaker 2: Someone just brought that up on an Instagram post the
Speaker 2: other day and it was good. It was vintage door
Speaker 2: from their archives, I believe, really, yeah, because it wasn't
Speaker 2: current and it wasn't my size, you know, because it
Speaker 2: had to be pregnant. And the thing that I remember
Speaker 2: about that, I think that was my first day on
Speaker 2: the that's the first movie, right, the first movie must
Speaker 2: be right, And I, you know how my ears, you know,
Speaker 2: my allergy to certain metals, My ears had closed up
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 1: Didn't realize it.
Speaker 2: So I'm in the hair and makeup trailer. I'm behind,
Speaker 2: of course because it's our first day, and there's this
Speaker 2: massive crowd up outside, you know, and I'm so stressed
Speaker 2: about the crowd, and I'm thinking to myself, does Michael
Speaker 2: Patrick realize that he has my very first scene outside
Speaker 2: with like, you know, the pregnancy.
Speaker 1: Does he remember that?
Speaker 2: You know that there's just happening, yeah, And like, do
Speaker 2: you remember there were people there from the magazines with
Speaker 2: like their tape recorders and like writing notes, and Chris
Speaker 2: and I walk over there thinking that they're fans, and
Speaker 2: they're like asking us questions and we're like, oh god,
Speaker 2: oh god.
Speaker 1: Oh, we've got to leave.
Speaker 2: We've got to leave exactly, run run, someone help us.
Speaker 2: But I'm in the hair and makeup trailer. They're trying
Speaker 2: to get me ready, you know, They're like, they're ready
Speaker 2: for me, ready for me, and you're stressing. And I
Speaker 2: realized it. Don't have my Van Cleef and our pel
Speaker 2: earrings in they're supposed to go with my outfit, and
Speaker 2: I have to read pierced this ear myself and blood
Speaker 2: drips onto the white vintage de Or silk and I'm dying. Okay,
Speaker 2: Can I tell you my ear is still messed up
Speaker 2: from that. My ear has never recovered.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. That was the true sacrifice. There was bloodshed.
Speaker 2: There was bloodshed onto the door, which of course I'm mortified.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, there's blood on the door.
Speaker 3: You see it in the scene or something.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, I don't think so. Oh, I'm
Speaker 2: sure you guys were on top of me. I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I called you, like, help me, I got blood on
Speaker 1: the door.
Speaker 3: That's such a good insider story.
Speaker 2: I know I might have had the bags on that shoulder.
Speaker 2: I might have put the bags on that shoulder just
Speaker 2: so that you didn't see the blood on the door.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you did some cute little.
Speaker 1: Trip I tried.
Speaker 2: I wish we had kept that because it was just, Oh,
Speaker 2: what a fantastic I mean, you guys have done. When
Speaker 2: you think about everything that you guys have done just
Speaker 2: for us, obviously you have other careers, but I mean jobs,
Speaker 2: other jobs in your career, If you think about everything
Speaker 2: that you have done, do you feel proud?
Speaker 3: I just am so speechless when I think of how
Speaker 3: fortunate and oftentimes I think about and what we accomplished
Speaker 3: in everything, and how amazing it was to go to
Speaker 3: a couture show and you know that HBO sent us
Speaker 3: several several times. That is unheard of, unheard care But
Speaker 3: you know, I think about what it would be like
Speaker 3: if it hadn't been the four of you, Like I
Speaker 3: often think about what if it wasn't seem you know
Speaker 3: who what this casting it's just all so aligned. It's
Speaker 3: very witchy.
Speaker 2: It is witchy because there's no, there was not a
Speaker 2: lot of you know, we never read together. You know,
Speaker 2: we didn't really know each other. It's just magic that
Speaker 2: it worked. But again my feeling is, first of all, yes,
Speaker 2: Kis meant some kind of like magic came together. But
Speaker 2: also I feel I feel also that you know, the
Speaker 2: the important parts of it that I think about are
Speaker 2: the collaboration, the willingness to come in with these very
Speaker 2: strong personalities, you know, Darren, Michael, pat you know Sarah, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: everyone had extremely strong thoughts and opinions and instincts, right,
Speaker 2: but it was never you were not in trouble for
Speaker 2: having that. You were more in trouble if you didn't
Speaker 2: have that, you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's true, right, And I think that's an amazing kind
Speaker 2: of specialness of our show.
Speaker 3: And I think that when you and I reminisce sometimes
Speaker 3: in your trailer when you have a down moment, which
Speaker 3: is never and talk about fights or major drama situations
Speaker 3: on the show, those were as good to talk They're
Speaker 3: as good to think about in hindsight as the.
Speaker 2: High Absolutely, I think that's part of the reason for
Speaker 2: the success is.
Speaker 3: Because at the moment, yeah, it's right.
Speaker 1: Right at the moment. It's kind of tiring.
Speaker 2: You can wear yourself out with the dramas. But the
Speaker 2: dramas happened because everyone felt so strongly, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the passion of it. Yeah, when you look back
Speaker 3: now you're like, Okay, that's horrible when I was getting
Speaker 3: screamed at in front of the crew, But now I
Speaker 3: find it fascinating. Let's dis say it and talk about it.
Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely, And I feel like also it's the thing
Speaker 2: of like, you know, everyone involved was so incredibly smart
Speaker 2: about their own area. Like I was just looking at
Speaker 2: the credits for this one of six, and I ever
Speaker 2: thought about Jeremy Conway.
Speaker 1: Whereber Jeremy, I.
Speaker 3: Do who went on to do the Olympics.
Speaker 2: The Olympics, I know, because he's brilliant, Like our show
Speaker 2: would not still exist and look like it does if
Speaker 2: Jeremy hadn't been our production designer. You know, he was
Speaker 2: just super super brilliant and cared about all the little
Speaker 2: details and would come talk to me.
Speaker 1: I remember, even back.
Speaker 2: I mean we had no you remember, in the beginning,
Speaker 2: we had no producer credit whatsoever. But I remember everyone
Speaker 2: would include us, you know, with the exception occasionally of directors,
Speaker 2: which then we would have to go above their heads.
Speaker 2: But if they didn't understand that we were an integral
Speaker 2: part of the decision making process and we're.
Speaker 3: Just so lucky with the title, but you were.
Speaker 2: We were, And that's so special and unique, you know,
Speaker 2: to have for actors, much less actresses, right to be
Speaker 2: thought of like, oh, this person is an integral part
Speaker 2: of this production, and she has a say in how
Speaker 2: her house looks, how her apartment looks, how her clothes looks.
Speaker 2: You know, what art would she have? What art wouldn't
Speaker 2: she have? Like it was so collaborative.
Speaker 3: I remember Sarah Jessica with Sabrina Wright, who was like
Speaker 3: five generation props yep, picking out what magazines would be
Speaker 3: on that table in that apartment.
Speaker 2: That's right, like that level of detail. I remember me
Speaker 2: sending Sabrina what wedding rings I wanted, Oh wow, and
Speaker 2: making her get them from Kathy Waterman, who happened to
Speaker 2: be in Los Angeles. Do you remember that?
Speaker 3: Yes? I do. Is there anything that you because we
Speaker 3: reminisce and you're watching the older episode, do you have
Speaker 3: a memento that you framed at home?
Speaker 2: I don't have that.
Speaker 3: You have that you is sacred and that you know,
Speaker 3: I know, you know, being framed. What if she have
Speaker 3: framed it's some kind of poeme.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's nice. I don't think I knew that. I
Speaker 2: should ask her about that. What do you have framed?
Speaker 3: Okay? This, this won't get us in trouble.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know talking.
Speaker 3: About talking about passionate thing moments. There's a moment you
Speaker 3: know when when people do not want you to wear something,
Speaker 3: or anyone to wear something, and they it will ruin
Speaker 3: their dialogue or it will take away from the scene.
Speaker 3: They can go wild in the office, try to tell
Speaker 3: you their point. This is why she should not wear this.
Speaker 3: I have a torn picture of you guys. It's torn
Speaker 3: from Michael King. They're never wearing this, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: And I showed it to him one time and he
Speaker 3: just thought it was so funny that I can't and.
Speaker 2: What were we wearing? And did we wear it? No,
Speaker 2: it's not going to get us in trouble.
Speaker 3: No, it's a funny passionate like did we wear it?
Speaker 2: Who won that argument?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, he brought up in when I talked to him,
Speaker 2: he brought up that he had said no to the
Speaker 2: fisace millful and then yeah, that he had initially said no,
Speaker 2: and that then he had really learned like no, no,
Speaker 2: because his thing was, well, why would she be wearing it? Right?
Speaker 2: Because you know how he's literal because he's writing right,
Speaker 2: like it's a different job. And then he says, you know,
Speaker 2: it really taught me that you don't always have to
Speaker 2: have a reason. You know that it's going to be amazing.
Speaker 3: Incredible, right, I never do that. That's such a good
Speaker 3: behind the scenes. I never knew that he was like
Speaker 3: anti that.
Speaker 2: I think it was anti that for in the hotel room,
Speaker 2: like how would she have gotten it there? You know,
Speaker 2: like practical?
Speaker 3: Right, he's very good. I remember Pat explaining why she
Speaker 3: borrowed it when she was there, right, why is in
Speaker 3: her closet? And where she keeps it?
Speaker 2: We have no idea, right, right, exactly right?
Speaker 1: I think it's in a box.
Speaker 2: Doesn't she get it back out of a box when
Speaker 2: she needs it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You have to kind of stretch your imagination there, right.
Speaker 2: But that's okay because it was part of what our show,
Speaker 2: Like it was like the you know, the like building
Speaker 2: blocks of our show. I feel like, you know.
Speaker 3: And I love about him and all of you too
Speaker 3: as producers that you if you consider something and you're
Speaker 3: against it and then you've slept on it and you've
Speaker 3: changed your mind and you correct it, you will you
Speaker 3: correct yourselves. You're not You're like, I thought about that
Speaker 3: wrong and I think you're right, But I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: wear that bang, pat Well.
Speaker 2: I think some of that is from the history too,
Speaker 2: like like in the beginning, because when I look back
Speaker 2: on these early episodes, to me, I seem like like
Speaker 2: a floppy puppy or like a little child or something
Speaker 2: like I look so young, and I seem so like
Speaker 2: out of my element almost, you know, like the rest
Speaker 2: of them seem so sophisticated, and I feel like I'm like, right,
Speaker 2: you know, but I remember.
Speaker 1: I just remember that.
Speaker 2: Like, and I'm also wearing weird clothes, like like.
Speaker 1: I think I went shopping.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know this is.
Speaker 3: I think those are weird.
Speaker 1: I see them, right, What are they?
Speaker 3: I tell you that's where we went.
Speaker 2: We they're Bloomingdale's. I think they're either Bloomingdales or that
Speaker 2: I went somewhere and bought something and was like, hey,
Speaker 2: can I wear this? You know, which I think is
Speaker 2: why Darren then took me to dinner to say, listen,
Speaker 2: you have to let Pat dress you because she can
Speaker 2: dress you better than you can. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm sure she can. I just need to understand what
Speaker 2: we're doing and that I can do it. I needed
Speaker 2: so much confidence like built up in me that I
Speaker 2: could actually wear the things that I perceived as being
Speaker 2: what people in Vogue were like. I just had trouble
Speaker 2: making that leap myself, you know. So it took some time,
Speaker 2: and it took some time for Pat and I to
Speaker 2: find our way to each other in terms of, like,
Speaker 2: you know, she was trying to accentuate the part of
Speaker 2: my body that I've been trying to hide, which was
Speaker 2: my hips in my butt, but at the same time
Speaker 2: she sometimes would you know, kind of slightly criticize them.
Speaker 2: So it was very confusing to me, as you know,
Speaker 2: because you were there.
Speaker 3: That's not an easy thing to do in front of
Speaker 3: the dressing room mirror, you know what I mean, when
Speaker 3: you're comfortable and we all have those parts of us
Speaker 3: that were like, no, I'm camouflaging that, this is whatever stopped. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's it's interesting that you you uh,
Speaker 3: you had a journey.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, big time, such a journey, such a journey,
Speaker 2: and it continues, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: You know, maybe that's what is weird. A little bit
Speaker 3: about your clothes. Maybe they're in the early early days,
Speaker 3: Uh huh, they've got that little touch of West, you know,
Speaker 3: like definitely needed to be sophisticated.
Speaker 2: You were in Manhattan, definitely, and I definitely. I mean,
Speaker 2: I just see that there's some kind of of lack
Speaker 2: of clarity. And also I think also what you're reminding
Speaker 2: me of is that we didn't have the budget, we
Speaker 2: didn't have the ability to borrow, so so you know,
Speaker 2: we haven't gotten there yet. But also I don't even
Speaker 2: know what I what I would have wanted. Like the
Speaker 2: first time that I remember feeling great, and I don't
Speaker 2: know what episode this is is when I was wearing
Speaker 2: this black dress with the you know it's got like
Speaker 2: like panels down it. Oh you know what else I love?
Speaker 2: And I also don't know if this first your second season.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that time at the gallery where Willie's
Speaker 2: there and all of us are there and Pat convinced
Speaker 2: me to have a high pony with a hair piece,
Speaker 2: so it's really long ponytail. And she put me in
Speaker 2: diamond hoop ear rings, which literally I never wear.
Speaker 3: Oh, I want to see this so bad.
Speaker 2: And I feel like I might have a turtleneck kind
Speaker 2: of a sheath on, you know, like some kind of
Speaker 2: pretty sophisticated thing for me.
Speaker 3: For Charlotte that sounds very gallery.
Speaker 2: It was very gallery, and I feel like I might
Speaker 2: even have a red lip on. All kind of shocking elements. Right,
Speaker 2: I'm sitting, but it's good. It's good, and I remember
Speaker 2: moments like that early on where things came together and
Speaker 2: I think for me, and I'm sure she was probably
Speaker 2: just cursing me right at this point, but like for me,
Speaker 2: I just had to find my way to it, like
Speaker 2: who is this woman? Because as we've discussed with Michael
Speaker 2: and everybody else, really nobody knew who Charlotte was in
Speaker 2: the beginning, which is why they tried to demote me,
Speaker 2: you know, to recurring or whatever. And thank goodness I
Speaker 2: didn't let them. Oh that, Oh baby, you got to
Speaker 2: listen to the podcast.
Speaker 3: No I will. I've been catching backs and snippets because
Speaker 3: I love these stories.
Speaker 2: I know, because no one knows all the stories that's
Speaker 2: the fun that's the funny.
Speaker 3: Because you have seen them in such a while is
Speaker 3: also a great thing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh, I haven't seen them in twenty something
Speaker 2: twenty five years. Because for me, like if they were
Speaker 2: on E which was the first time they got syndicated,
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, it was like, first of all,
Speaker 2: it was toned down because they'd edded so much out,
Speaker 2: and second of all, it was living in the past,
Speaker 2: and I felt like, well, I don't want to live
Speaker 2: in the past. I want to live now because partly
Speaker 2: we were still doing the show, and we were doing
Speaker 2: the movies and you know, doing other things obviously, and
Speaker 2: now because it is so incredibly long ago, it's amazing
Speaker 2: to watch it. But it is a little bit like
Speaker 2: there therapy, I have to say, like it is a
Speaker 2: little bit like wow, like I need to really think
Speaker 2: about my own journey.
Speaker 3: Right, Like that is a lot of chronicling, you know,
Speaker 3: so much of a journey for sure.
Speaker 2: But I love it and I love that we can
Speaker 2: all be on record together about our experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so glad you're getting everybody to come in
Speaker 3: and discuss everything with you.
Speaker 1: I'm trying.
Speaker 2: We're not all the way there, yet, but having you
Speaker 2: has been amazing. I was like, we got to get Molly.
Speaker 2: We got to get Molly.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. And you said when you texted me,
Speaker 3: we won't have any problem finding something to talk about.
Speaker 2: As we never do, as we never do. Okay, Mollie Rogers,
Speaker 2: thank you for joining us. I love you so much.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having It was so much fun. Let's
Speaker 3: do it again.
Speaker 1: Let's do it again. Hey, how do you feel.
Speaker 2: About actually rewatching?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Cool, I mean we don't have to do it live together,
Speaker 2: but like you can watch and then let's write about
Speaker 2: our thoughts or what we remember.
Speaker 3: Hilarious.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I forgot to ask your bus and
Speaker 2: it's so important. I'm gonna take my glasses off for this.
Speaker 2: I gotta ask her about the naked dress. The naked dress,
Speaker 2: Well do I know the answer?
Speaker 1: What about the naked dress?
Speaker 2: Was the dress that she wears in the show and
Speaker 2: the dress that ends up on the bus.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the bus?
Speaker 2: Is this the billboard that is on the bus and
Speaker 2: that someone draws graffiti of a personal part? And yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: and it's in the In the she's wearing the tutu
Speaker 2: when she sees the bus obviously in the opening credits,
Speaker 2: but in the show it's a story point. She's doing
Speaker 2: a photo shoot for her column and she's wearing this
Speaker 2: DK and Y and or Donna, Karen Proper, I'm not
Speaker 2: sure which. It's a nude colored dress. It's very nineties,
Speaker 2: and and she comes she shows up. We're all there
Speaker 2: for moral supports. It's her first date with Big, and
Speaker 2: she comes out and I'm like, oh, like you can tell.
Speaker 2: Charlie's like somewhat mortified that this is what she's wearing.
Speaker 2: And Amanda says, uh, it's tits on toast, which is
Speaker 2: really funny. And she's like, is it too much? And
Speaker 2: Samantha's like, it's fabulous, darling. And then she wears it.
Speaker 2: And she walks out and sees Big on the street
Speaker 2: with the fur coat, and he goes, interesting dress, and
Speaker 2: she goes meaning and he says interesting dress, and I'm
Speaker 2: just like, what a jerk. Like sometimes I look back
Speaker 2: on Big and I'm like, wow, yeah, he's kind of
Speaker 2: a jerk. Yeah, you know, but some lines, I mean, right, gosh.
Speaker 2: Then they get in the car and they make out
Speaker 2: because it's like this naked dress, and I guess she
Speaker 2: felt like what interesting dress is a compliment or whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but do you remember this dress?
Speaker 3: I do, and I want to remind you and you'll go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's right. First of all, it's in her storage because
Speaker 3: I touched.
Speaker 2: It last year, your Way.
Speaker 3: It's in tissue and I was like, what.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: It has plastic string, not like a plastic like a whatever,
Speaker 3: plastic bra strap where you're trying to hide. You know
Speaker 3: that it's it's a little fishing wire.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Now here is the original continuity photo. Remember when we
Speaker 3: olaroids and yes and wrote it all by hand.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, will you send that to me?
Speaker 3: I will? It says dress and Pat describes it naked,
Speaker 3: g string, beige, Cosabella. Oh yeah, that's all your Manolo beige,
Speaker 3: actor's own a purse, snake skin long, actor's own coat,
Speaker 3: vintage for earrings studs.
Speaker 2: Wow, adorable.
Speaker 3: And you somebody took a picture of her on set. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know they have a hole.
Speaker 2: She she's in the apartment with us, and she goes
Speaker 2: out onto the street.
Speaker 1: Then they're in the cab.
Speaker 3: Then it's this big. It's like a notepad.
Speaker 2: I mean, it is interestingly naked. In terms of what's
Speaker 2: going on up top, I hadn't really remembered all of it.
Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, it's quite something.
Speaker 3: It's bold, it's in storage, it's in tis.
Speaker 1: She Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: I cannot wait until she has the retrospective show in
Speaker 2: the future. It's going to be quite something.
Speaker 3: I've got a lot of great pictures she can have
Speaker 3: of you for that show, for sure.
Speaker 1: Really, I do send them to me.
Speaker 2: Send them, take pictures of the pictures and send them
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 3: I might send you the most shocking one I have
Speaker 3: in a fitting and you will not believe what you
Speaker 3: actually tried on you. Wow, take a alcacette, sir. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I need to see it.
Speaker 1: I need to see it.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite favorite I have a stack of
Speaker 2: photos myself of when we're trying to find the Vera
Speaker 2: Wang wedding dress for the Kyle wedding, the Trey wedding,
Speaker 2: and we went to Vera Wang a few times. Do
Speaker 2: you remember this. I mean we must have put on
Speaker 2: thirty dresses and we took polaroids of all of them
Speaker 2: because we had to get everybody to agree, which was
Speaker 2: so difficult. Do you remember. And there's one where Pat
Speaker 2: is literally under my skirt. She's completely hidden, her little
Speaker 2: feet are picking out, she's doing something under there, and
Speaker 2: I'm just standing there because it was so normal and it's.
Speaker 3: Really remember yeah, yesterday, me too. I remember being at
Speaker 3: badgely Mishka.
Speaker 2: That was for the second, for the hairy wedding.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of those fitting photos of those.
Speaker 2: Yay, I don't have those. Let's share our photos.
Speaker 3: Molly, I will okay, see you soon.
Speaker 2: Love you,