1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the After Hours edition of The Clay and 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Buck Show with producer Ali. 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: And producer Greg. 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 3: Hi, how are you good. 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: We haven't done this in a while, Greg. We try 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: to do these about once a month where we jump 7 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: into the feed and just you know, surprise everybody with 8 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: a little easter egg telling them about what goes on 9 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: behind the scenes here on Clay and Buck. 10 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been too long. I think we did this 11 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: last in. 12 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 3: June or the beginning of the summer. Yeah. 13 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's been a lot that's happened since that 14 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: period of time and wanted to take a few minutes 15 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 2: and just talk to you about it. 16 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, And just with the recent events the assassination of 17 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, we thought there's a few things we wanted 18 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: to touch on today. But a question we get a 19 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: lot of times is how do you guys handle things 20 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: on the show when there's a breaking news event while 21 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: you're live? 22 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: Right? And this is good because actually we actually haven't 23 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: talked about this much off air or off Mike. So 24 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: I'd like to get your perspective about how you remember 25 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: things on that day, on that terrible day. 26 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: It's actually, let's see, it's Thursday right now at the 27 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: time that we're recording this, so it was exactly a 28 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: week ago. But the day before, on Wednesday, we were 29 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: coming to the end of our show. At that time, 30 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck were in their home studios, so none 31 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: of us were together except you and I Greg in 32 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: the New York studio, and I remember we first started 33 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: getting some alerts and we were in the middle of 34 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: a segment, and You and I were kind of looking 35 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: at each other, is this real? 36 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: Is this fake? 37 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: And we didn't want to interrupt Clay and Buck in 38 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: their flow is what we call it when they're in 39 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: the middle of a segment, but we definitely our eyes 40 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: bulged and we both were frantically trying to confirm what 41 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: we were starting to the trickle of information that was 42 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: starting to come out. 43 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, if I can roll back even just a little 44 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: bit before that, I had gotten a call. Just taking 45 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: screening calls, I got a call from a listener who 46 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: said was kind of frantic, actually said I was. I 47 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: just got a call from my brother. He was at 48 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: this event in Utah and Charlie Kirk is been shot 49 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: and I misheard it and I thought it was somebody else. 50 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: I thought you said, actually, Charlie hurt and you know 51 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: who's another prominent journalists snooze, right, And so I got 52 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: I was like, all right, we're going to look into 53 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: this because people call sometimes and say things and we 54 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: always have to check them out. 55 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: Simultaneously, I was getting emails on the VIP email line 56 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: saying exactly the same thing, Charlie Kirk. 57 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: Okay, because I so, I got off and I said, 58 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: I got a call about Charlie one of the Charlie's 59 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: getting shot. And you blanched because you also also were 60 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: getting the emails at the same time. You're like, I 61 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: just got I have a bunch of emails saying this 62 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 2: as well. And for that, once you said that and 63 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: I had that, we put it all together like, oh no, 64 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: something really bad. 65 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: And then we actually went to we were going to 66 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: a commercial break at that point. And right away as 67 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: soon as we went to the commercial break, because Clay 68 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: and Buck both of their phones, they were getting text 69 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: messages and because they're live, they can't really address things 70 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: sometimes right in that moment, they don't know either, so 71 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: they immediately said to both of us, we're getting these reports. 72 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: You guys, confirm this, confirm this we're getting these reports, 73 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: get on it, and so we're all over the place 74 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: trying to find sources. Because, as we know, and we've 75 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: worked in this business long enough, usually the first twenty 76 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: four hours of a breaking news event, almost I would 77 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: almost wager seventy five percent of the information that news 78 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: outlets report has some level of inaccuracy. So I always 79 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: tell people, as a rule, wait for the news cycle 80 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: to play itself out, especially in the age of social media, 81 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: when things are flying a mile a minute. So we 82 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: were kind of hoping, this isn't true, This is just 83 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: a rumor, this isn't true. And then, unfortunately, we realized 84 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: it was indeed true. And I ran over to the 85 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: Hannity's studio, which is right next to our studio, and 86 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: I spoke with Hannity's producer showed me the video. 87 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was starting to see because I was doing 88 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: all kinds of checking. I was checking X, I was 89 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: checking all these different as well, other wires, just trying 90 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: to see what kind of information was out there. Oh, okay, 91 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: this is in Utah and all these others. Oh and oh, 92 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: somebody says that they have a video. So I while 93 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: you were out there talking to Linda and everybody over there. 94 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: I thought, all right, I found this video and I 95 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: started to watch it, and I watched it and it 96 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: was just it was jarring too terrible. Yeah, jarring is 97 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: an excellent word for it. You just felt. 98 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: Awful, and we both were somewhat in denial, hoping this 99 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: was some sort of AI trick, that this wasn't real. 100 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: And then I texted it to Buck and Clay. I 101 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: showed them and I was like, could this be fake? 102 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: And that's when Buck, who does have a lot of 103 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: firearms experience, and he kind of took a look at 104 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: it and he said, I don't this does not look good. 105 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: We all at that point just immediately went into prayer, 106 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: hoping right that it wasn't what it was. 107 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 2: And so things are going along and is he in 108 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 2: the hospital? Is he on the way to the hospital? 109 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: What do we know? And then the show ends suddenly, 110 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: you know, it's it was the last twenty minutes of 111 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: the show, I mean, and it went fast. 112 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 3: It's actually less segment was it. 113 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 2: Was even less than the last twenty minutes. Yeah, so 114 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: it was It was really a lot of information that 115 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: we're trying to convey in a very very very short 116 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: period of time, and it wasn't until an hour or 117 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: two after the show went off the air before the 118 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: word came down that he had. 119 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 3: It was less than that. 120 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: It was during Will Kine's show when it was confirmed, 121 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: and they actually had immediately booked Buck to come on 122 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: his show because of his background, right, And at that 123 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: point in time, Buck had actually gotten word, but he 124 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: it wasn't official. So he was holding that because he, 125 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, out of respect, and he said it was 126 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: one of the hardest segments he did because he knew 127 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: and he just had to, you know, keep it together 128 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: until that could be officially confirmed for a variety of reasons. 129 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: So I'm sitting meanwhile, I've I go home. I live 130 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: upstate a little bit, and I get on a train. 131 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: I walk out of here and I go and I 132 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: get on my train and I'm listening to w OAR 133 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 2: on the iHeart app. I'm listening to Sean's show, and 134 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: he's talking to Eric Trump. Actually, yeah, he was talking 135 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: to Eric Trump and talking about all of this stuff 136 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: that's going on. And then I lost a signal and 137 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 2: I came back and next thing I know, Linda is 138 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: talking to Jason Chafitz. 139 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 3: And who was there at the event? 140 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: Who was there at the event. And then they come 141 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: on and they start talking about John Solomon reporting that 142 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: it's official that he and you know, as soon as 143 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: she said that, John Solomon said it, you knew, Yeah, 144 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: that was it. It was it was fact. Basically John 145 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: Solomon says it it's you know, because he's such a 146 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: reliable source. 147 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: Percent And then I literally sat at my desk just 148 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: in disbelief for the next thirty minutes, like I couldn't move. 149 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: I was just staring at the TV and that chirn 150 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: saying Charlie Kirk dead. I just something just hit me 151 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: in the gut, like I just felt sadness, sorrow, but 152 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: also unbelievable anger, like I just wanted to throw things. 153 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: I was so so, so angry, deeply angry, to the 154 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: point I probably said some things I'm not proud of 155 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: saying in the moment, in the heat of the moment, 156 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: because I was just so gutted. But then upon reflection 157 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: a few days later, when people were describing or talking 158 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: about what the punishment will be when they eventually caught 159 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: the guy, and people are all like death penalty, death penalty, 160 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: I actually rolled back some of my initial thoughts, and 161 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: I spoke with my husband about it, and I said, 162 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think the death penalty is the 163 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: way he should go. I actually think a better thing 164 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: to do. I talked to you about this solitary confinement, 165 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: and the only thing he can have access to is 166 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk's speeches, videos, debates, books, TV appearances. 167 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: Just that's it. That's all he gets. 168 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: And he has to be forced day in and day 169 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: out to consume Charlie Kirk over and over and over again. 170 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: And then my hope would be he's what twenty twenty two. 171 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: My hope would be that by the time he's twenty five, 172 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: maybe sooner, probably sooner, he would have this major epiphany, 173 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: a major awakening about just how wrong he was, and 174 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: then he would come out and say, as a confession, 175 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: you know what, over the years in solitary listening to this, 176 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: listening to Charlie, I realized how deeply wrong I was, 177 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: and give him a chance to show almost a kind 178 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: of redemption, because that, to me, would be more effective 179 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: than just death penalty, because death penalty the people who 180 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: agree with him. 181 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: Which that we'll get to that in a second. 182 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: That all the reaction to the assassination, but before that, 183 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: just in general, like all of the things he learned. 184 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: For him to come out later and say I was 185 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: wrong about this, then all the supporters and all the 186 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: people celebrating, then what are. 187 00:08:58,679 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: They faced with? 188 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I just feel like that would actually be 189 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: more productive than just taking the guy out. 190 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 3: What do you think? 191 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. To be honest with you, 192 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: I haven't I'm of two minds of the whole thing. 193 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: It was really I don't know. It's really hard. Death 194 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: penalty may be too good for him. But at the 195 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: same time. 196 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he wanted to commit suicide. Their finding now anyways, 197 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: So why just give him that and then nothing? There's 198 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: nothing gained. The left is still gonna think he's a martyr, 199 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: They're still going to cheer him. 200 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 3: I don't feel like anything is gained. 201 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: Whereas if you expose him to Charlie Kirk and force 202 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: feed him, essentially there's no way he can't see the 203 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: air of his ways. 204 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if that would pass forth, pass Fourth Amendment, muster, Yeah, 205 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: you know, that would be an interesting That would be 206 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: an interesting way of approaching a nice, nice penalty. But 207 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: for me. You talked about going home, and it's a 208 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: similar sort of I had a similar sort of reaction. 209 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: I just had a dark cloud. There was a pall 210 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: over me. And I came home and I talked to 211 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: my wife and how are you? I said, I'm not good. 212 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: I am not good. There was just such a cloud 213 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: over me and everything. And I hugged her and I 214 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: held her and I cried a little bit. And it 215 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: was the same, you know, and then come, you know, 216 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: go to bed, eat something, go to bed, come back 217 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: into the office the next day and the same sort 218 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: of thing. There was just a cloud over everything. I 219 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: talked to Linda, I talked to Sean's staff, and it 220 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: was just everybody just was kind of a zombie and 221 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: walking in a daze. And you know, prepping for that 222 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: show that day. I knew that that was really going 223 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: to be the only thing we were going to be 224 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: talking about. That was the only thing. 225 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 3: We were going to be the next two days. 226 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: So it was really trying to trying to get ready 227 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: for that. Those shows. Was it was like walking through 228 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: Hayz I don't remember it. 229 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: Kept texting our group chat and he was like, I 230 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: still can't believe it, Like it's almost like we're in disbelief. 231 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: It took a while, three days in and we're still 232 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: like did this really happen? Are we in an alternative universe? Like? 233 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 3: Did this really happen? And now we get to the reaction, 234 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 3: the lovely reaction. 235 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:16,119 Speaker 1: I unfriended so many people, people that I'm actually saddened 236 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: and remarkably disappointed in that they had the types of 237 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: reactions they did. 238 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: And look I have. 239 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: I would say the majority of my friends are on 240 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: the left. I live in New York City. It's the 241 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: product of my environment. 242 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: But some of them, I'm like, you're adults, your parents. 243 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: I would expect dumb college kids who don't know any better, 244 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: who are indoctrinated college students, as Rush would say, young 245 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: skulls full of mush. I would almost expect that from 246 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: stupid kids. But some of my peers I'm in my fifties, 247 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: that are parents that were like, oh, well he said this, 248 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: and oh one time he said that. And by the way, 249 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,479 Speaker 1: some of the things that they were posting, like statements 250 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: fully out of context, clearly had never listened to a 251 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: word the guy said, misquoting him. Oh my god, and 252 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: over and over and over again. As a justification that 253 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: this was okay. I was so revolted over that reaction. 254 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my reaction too. I ran into that 255 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: a little bit with people close to me and online 256 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: and in my day to day life as well. 257 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: Greg. 258 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: When you think about how we got to this place 259 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: where something like this could occur, you ask yourself how 260 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: and why? 261 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: Well, this has been this groundwork has been being laid 262 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: for a long time now many I mean many, many, 263 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: many years. You actually had suggested putting together this montage 264 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,479 Speaker 2: about looking and calling the president a fascist and Hitler 265 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: and hit Nazi, all of these things. And this goes back. 266 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 2: I mean, this has been part of the liberal slash 267 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: Democrat playbook going back to at least George W. Bush, 268 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: and you could probably find, you know, even read in it. 269 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go and be back beyond there. Sure, So 270 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: you know, I just took a little bit from the 271 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 2: last couple of years, and you know, it's just an 272 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: endless and we're going to play this for you. But 273 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: my last little bit about that is it doesn't seem 274 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: like they've learned. There have been instances in the last 275 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: couple of days since we played that montage that I 276 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: could have added to that montage and you know they're 277 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 2: leaning in. It would double, it would double the length 278 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 2: of it just in the last couple of days, which 279 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: is absolutely crazy. So why don't we go ahead and 280 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: play that montage for you? It's not a stretch to 281 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: call Donald Trump a fascist? 282 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist? Yes? I do, Yes, 283 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: I do. 284 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is a fascist. 285 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: And increasingly obviously fascist person, this fascist pig. 286 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 4: No one has ever been more dangerous to this country 287 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 4: than Donald Trump, and he is a fascist to his core. 288 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 4: Do we want to continue democracy or do we want 289 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 4: to slip into fascism? 290 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: So fascist nazi? If you keep saying this stuff over 291 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: and over and over again, that is dehumanizing. And I 292 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: actually thought claim Buck addressed this really really well this 293 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: week because they were talking about, you know, baby Hitler, and. 294 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 3: Oh that baby Hitler argument drives me crazy. 295 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: Talk about that a little bit well. 296 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: Because it's like hindsight, Oh if you could kill baby Hitler. 297 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: But like a baby is born and then it's environment. 298 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it goes to the is are people born 299 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: truly evil? And I do believe in true evil, But 300 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: to just you, it's like armchair quarterbacking life, Like, you 301 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: don't know what any baby is going to turn out. 302 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: You don't know which paths, which where their circumstances will 303 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: lead them, right, So I almost feel like it's a 304 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: I don't accept the premise of Okay, let's kill a 305 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: baby before it's life. Hasn't made any decision, did you say, 306 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying I just find it a weak argument. 307 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: Okay. I think the idea of going back in time 308 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: and you know, the morality and the ethics of being 309 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: having to confront that situation is an interesting mind game 310 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: or brain teaser that sort of thing. It's really not 311 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: a practical thing to have a discussion about because you know, 312 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: time travel is just science fiction and there's nothing that 313 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: we can really do to really talk about. It is 314 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: just really more of just mental bubble gum. 315 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 316 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: It's like if you could have prevented that accident from happening, 317 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: or if you could go back and prevent you know, 318 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: this company falling apart. 319 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just find those type of arguments 320 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: very weak. 321 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: But that's that's the whole idea that the Left is 322 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: starting to is trying to embrace. You know, Oh, well, 323 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: we have to call Trump Hitler now because we want 324 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: to make sure that we don't go down the same 325 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: path that they went down seventy eighty years ago and they, 326 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: you know, Germany did. Germany didn't recognize what Hitler was 327 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: and all that. We want to make sure that we 328 00:15:54,440 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: have and you end up demonizing and dehumanizing, Yes, the 329 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: people that you're pointing the finger out and that you're 330 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: calling those names too, and it's it's a terrible and 331 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: inevitably we I mean, honestly, we should have seen something 332 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: like this Charlie Kirk coming a lot a long time ago. 333 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: Clay actually he actually thought that something like this was 334 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: destined to happen. 335 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember him. 336 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: We had some concerns about that and mentioning that. But 337 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: again back to the to try to say that Charlie 338 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: Kirk was a baby Trump in the making and o 339 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: maga threat and that to me is the most asinine perspective. 340 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, honestly, I really think he was a Rush 341 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: Limbaugh in the making. And yeah, we actually didn't play 342 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: the SoundBite today from Glenn Beck who filled in on 343 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: Charlie's show and brought the golden EIB microphone. 344 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 3: Oh we have that sound bite too. Yeah, on the 345 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 3: list today. 346 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: And it was on the list today. We can we 347 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: can play? 348 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, why don't we throw that in there? 349 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 350 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 3: It nice. That was a nice thing Glenn's. 351 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 2: He says that he basically implies that Charlie was the 352 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: next Rush Limbaugh. 353 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 5: I brought something with me today that I thought was 354 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 5: appropriate while I did the show that I would sit 355 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 5: in front of Charlie's microphone. It was given to me 356 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 5: after the death of Rush Limbaugh by his wife. It 357 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 5: is Russia's golden microphone. I think it's appropriate that it 358 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 5: sits in front of Charlie's microphone. Charlie was a pastor 359 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 5: and a priest and listening to the way he could 360 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 5: argue and think differently. He was a rabbi as well, 361 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 5: and one of the best. He was a political organizer. 362 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 5: He was a political think take himself. He was a 363 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 5: compassionate friend. He surpassed Rush Limbaugh by miles. 364 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: We turning Point USA. 365 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: We found an old archive clip that they posted and 366 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: I didn't even find this in our owner archives, so 367 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: I was glad I saw this. It was from January 368 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: eleventh of twenty and eighteen, and it was Rush describing 369 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: the first time he met Charlie Kirk, and it actually 370 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: gave me the shivers when I listened to it. I'm 371 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: not going to say anymore. I'm just going to let 372 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: you hear it too. 373 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 4: There was a conference what was it three Turning Point USA. 374 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 4: How many kids were there? Three thousand student activists here 375 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 4: in was actually over at West Palm Beach. And this 376 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 4: is a group that has been put together and operates 377 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 4: under the auspices of Charlie Kirk, right, who is a 378 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 4: You're going to be hearing that name if you haven't. 379 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 4: He is enough Charlie. Let me just tell you. Let 380 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 4: me just tell you. I don't want to jinx him, 381 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 4: but I'm. 382 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: Just going to tell you. 383 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 4: They brought Charlie Kirk to the golf course to meet 384 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 4: me about a month ago. He was in town to 385 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 4: set up this Turning Point thing, and they brought him 386 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: to the golf course to meet me. It was during 387 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 4: We're getting ready for a eight forty five am start, 388 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 4: and they brought him out while I was getting ready 389 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 4: to go to the range loosen up, and I spoke 390 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 4: with him for about a half hour, and he told 391 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 4: me how he grew up in a home where my 392 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 4: program was on all the time. He was just effusively 393 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 4: complimentary to me, which which I of course understood and 394 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 4: told him he's very wise, his family's very wise. He chuckled, 395 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 4: he laughed. This is the kind of guy that you 396 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 4: can see really becoming big in politics as he gets older. 397 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 4: He just has the kind the carriage, the personality, the charisma. 398 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 4: You may think this sounds weird, but I remember when 399 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 4: Bill Clinton became president. There were all of these stories 400 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: about Bill Clinton at Oxford and Bill Clinton at Yale, 401 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 4: and Bill Clinton here and all these people who went 402 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 4: to school with him. There were story after story after 403 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 4: story where people were saying that they just knew Bill 404 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 4: Clinton was going to be president someday in college. He 405 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 4: just had that kind of ambition and the impressed people 406 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: in a way that he could. Peggy Noonan even told 407 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 4: me this. Peggy Noonon went to one of these these 408 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 4: weekends that Democrats do before we concocted it for ourselves, 409 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 4: the Restoration weekend that Hurwitz does. The Democrats had one 410 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 4: of those long before we did, and Peggy Noonon went 411 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 4: to one. And this was before nineteen ninety two, this 412 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 4: is before Clinton got the nomination. She came back extolling 413 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 4: this guy's virtues to me, the governor of Arkansas, and 414 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 4: of course I was I was kind of leery because 415 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 4: here's Peggy, a supposed conservatives, singing the virtues of this 416 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 4: Arkansas Democrat governor. In fact, that was the first time 417 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 4: I had heard anything significantly positive about about Clinton. 418 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 3: It was from her. 419 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 4: And I'm telling you that people are saying the same 420 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 4: things about Charlie Kirk. 421 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: Rush was always very pruscient, and he was right on 422 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: about Charlie Kirk. I mean that was from two thousand 423 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: and eight. 424 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: I know, I know, seven years ago, almost eight years ago. 425 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: One thing that really hits me is that Charlie Kirk 426 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: was taken out in the way that they tried to 427 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: take out. 428 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: Trump at Butler. 429 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely that lower than I reserve all the words I 430 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: want to say that individual. He succeeded where the Butler 431 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: assassin did not. And in some way, I don't even 432 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: know how to articulate the thoughts I have, because we 433 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: could have been going through this last year, last summer, 434 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: and you know what, we would have also been going 435 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: through the reaction, which would have been amplified by so much. 436 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so I don't I can. 437 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: Barely handle this. I can't imagine how I would have 438 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: handled that. 439 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, as bad as it was the reaction from the 440 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: left on about Charlie Kirk, it would have been tenfold 441 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: one hundredfold worse if they had succeeded in Butler against 442 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 2: President Trump. But nobody has taken shots at Keith Obermin. 443 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: Nobody's taken shots at Don Lymon, nobody's taken shots at 444 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: Brian Stelter or Jake Tapper or any of that. None 445 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: of those people, Rachel maddout, nobody is, No one is 446 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: doing that. And all I keep hearing about from the 447 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 2: Southern Poverty Law Center is, you know, Christian nationalism and 448 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: white supremacy and far right altra right as the major dangers. 449 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: It's just not borne out by the fact. 450 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: We had a couple events coming up that we've had 451 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: to cancel, yep, because just for our own host safety. 452 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna take that risk. Am I gonna take 453 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: that chance? 454 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: And I don't know about you, but my head's on 455 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: a swivel now every time I leave the building, every 456 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: time I'm walking out on the street and heading for 457 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: the train, and I'm constantly Yeah. 458 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: We had a security guard escort us escort us on 459 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: Tuesday when we brought Clay to the stephen A. Smith 460 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: debate and we had to walk a few blocks. We're 461 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: in midtown Manhattan, going through Times Square, hundreds of people, 462 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: and I mean I was like the Exorcist in my head, 463 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: was spinning around so much looking at everybody we passed. 464 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I was on record as opposing 465 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: you actually got you guys actually walking. 466 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: I mean I had my pepper spray and that was 467 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: about it. But we did have the guard. But still, 468 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: this is kind of terrifying time. 469 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: It's a scary time that we happen to live in. 470 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: And that's that's been the hard part too, is just 471 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 2: going home and then you know, trying to decompress from 472 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 2: all of this stuff. How we can get by it quickly? 473 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 2: And I you know, I it's all I can say 474 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: is well, and I will we can continue to work 475 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: to do that. Go ahead. 476 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: I will say it has been really heartwarming to read 477 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: all of yours that you've been sending. In listening to 478 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: your talkbacks, our audience has been super supportive, and I 479 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: got to tell you, Clay and Buck, that's really meant 480 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: a lot to them too. That, just knowing they have 481 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: a huge audience that has their back and that supports them, 482 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: and we stand strong and we keep speaking our minds 483 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: and speaking the truth and not being deterred to hear 484 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: from you. Thanking them that meant the world to them 485 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: in the past week. So I just want to say 486 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: thank you to our audience for doing that. 487 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're always really grateful when you reach out, when 488 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 2: you touch base with them in any manner. And it's 489 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: been a rough it's been a rough week. 490 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 3: It's been a rough week. 491 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 2: It's been a rough week. 492 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: A good segue right now would be to talk about 493 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: our sponsor, Chuck. 494 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: Oh, talk to me about. 495 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had to lean on our friend Chad this week. 496 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: Chad as in Chad Mode from chalk dot com. Chad 497 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: Mode is a powder supplements that you just pour into 498 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: your water, mix it up. It looks like the color 499 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: of one of Buck's nice Cashmeir sweaters he wears a 500 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: lot and gives you a natural boost. 501 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Buck is actually using this as I would 502 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: call daily as far as with his work out. 503 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: Well, he's using Chalk Daily, which is a supplement set 504 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: of other supplements. But when he was writing his book, 505 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: Chad mode was his mode. He needed that and because 506 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: it not only helps you before a workout, like actually 507 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: get through physically the workout, but it also. 508 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: Helps your mind. 509 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: So if you just need to stay sharp and focused, 510 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: and you know, you have to write a paper at 511 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: school or you have to you're at work and you 512 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: have to get through expense reports like I do later, 513 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: you can just say, okay, Chad, you and I just 514 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 1: for the next hour, we're going to be completely focused 515 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: on whatever project. 516 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: Well, that's you know, it's good with your workout, it's 517 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: good with your helping in the office, that sort of thing. 518 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: Working in. We'll call it that way. So working out, 519 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 2: working in, trying your Chad mode. Go to chalk dot 520 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 2: com choq Q. 521 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: The Q is important because Chuck, I want to spell 522 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: it like the stuff we wrote on the sidewalk with 523 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: as kids, but it's actually c HOQ. And if you're 524 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: at the website and you see some stuff you might like, 525 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: remember to put in Clay or Buck's name and you'll 526 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: get a bit of a discount. 527 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Yeah, it's always a good thing 528 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: to get save a little money that way. 529 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: So all right, Greg, Well, until we do another after hours, only. 530 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: A lot less time will go between this one and 531 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: the next one. 532 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'd like to take any questions you have about 533 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: what goes on behind the scenes of the show. So 534 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: this this one was kind of focused on how we 535 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: deal with breaking news, anything else you'd like to know 536 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: how we put together the show, or. 537 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 2: Any of the other staff, producer Mike who you know 538 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: who runs the board, or producer Mark and his hockey 539 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: if he has any any questions for him for that anything, 540 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: just just send reach out to us. Yes, go on 541 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: the iHeart app, send us a talk back and we 542 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 2: always get him and we always listen to him. 543 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 3: So all right, until next time, Thank you, Greg. 544 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: I'm producer, Greg, I'm producer Alie