1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Move to Sticks Podcast. I'm Bucky Brooks. 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: I'm joined by I guess, super Subzerlyn, my guy from 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com and all things Houston. What's up Age 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: Towns Funniest It's uh, it's another uh, it's another day, 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: another dollar buck. I'm sitting here waiting to do some 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: things against the Dodgers. Yeahs shows Dodgers, So we got 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: a little We've got a little extended beef. So yeah, 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to today. 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: I got camp, I saw Texans. They're not really blowing 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: up in Houston, but watching Davis Mills a little bit. 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: You've got Nico Collins to talk about, but that's not 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: gonna be the focus of today's Today's show, but it 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: is an interesting thing for me. I've covered the Texans 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: since our inception, and I've never seen him quite like this, 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: Like they've been torn down to the studs and so 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: now they got to rebuild core players. I'm seeing it 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: with my Rocket squad. They have to do the same thing, 19 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: and so it's interesting from a team building standpoint, cause 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: I know you and I are both fans of other sports, 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: but I think it's you know, last time I joined you, 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: we talked about team building. It is interesting to see 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: when you have to tear it all the way down 24 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: to the studs. It's kind of fun in the sense 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: that how are we going to rebuild it back? What's 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: our philosophy gonna be, how do we how are we 27 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: gonna you know, what are we gonna do with traits, 28 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: What are we gonna do with production? How? How are 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: we gonna envision this? How are we gonna build this financially? 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: What's the financial model gonna look like? And so, you know, 31 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: when you're already there, it's one thing when you're trying 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: to build from the ground floor up, you've got to 33 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: re answer those questions. And you know, Buck, I looked 34 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: at uh a deal that was done this week, and 35 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting deal in Nick Chubb. Right, 36 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: here's a team that knows where they're going to Cleveland Browns. 37 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: They still have some questions to answer about about Baker Mayfield. 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: What did you think though of the contract that was 39 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: given to Nick Chubb, who was done a year early, 40 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: which is fine by me, But I think it's it's 41 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: something where they gave him a lot more guaranteed money 42 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: up front, twenty million out of thirty six million, and 43 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: they're not really cap restricted at the back end of 44 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: the contract. It's not a long six or seven year run. 45 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: It's a relatively you know, it's a reasonable contract run. 46 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: You know, even get into that, I'm gonna I'm gonna 47 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: answer your question right at that. Yeah, we're gonna talk 48 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: about Nick Choll, We're gonna do training camp weekly QB reports, 49 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about all these rookie quarterbacks. And then 50 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I hit you on 51 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: your top ten offensive and defensive Rookie of the Year candidates. 52 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: But back to your point about Nick Jobb. I was 53 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: just in Cleveland over the weekend and that deal came 54 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: down right when we were there. And so you talk 55 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: about that three year extension where thirty six point six million, 56 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: twenty million guaranteed. Uh I put some right um with 57 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: the Derrick Henry's of the world right around twelve million, 58 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: twelve point two million dollars, and I think it actually 59 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: is a good slotting. Right. So, when you think about 60 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: the running back position, the guys who are really getting 61 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: the top of the money deals. Are the guys that 62 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: are what I call these hybrids right there. RB one's why, 63 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: receiver two's. They're able to impact the game not only 64 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: as runners but as pass catchers. So when you think 65 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: about Christian McCaffrey, Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, all of those 66 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: guys qualified. But then right after that Derrick Henry, who 67 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: is look man, he's a one dimensional player. I call 68 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: him Marianna Rivera. He's he has a cutter. Everyone knows 69 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 1: he's running, but yet no one can stop him as 70 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: a force. He's right there, twelve million dollars. And then 71 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb is right there. And when I think of 72 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, Nick Chubb is in that same family. He's 73 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: a runner, not a pass catcher. He's an old school 74 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: slaver knocka that can do all those things. And what 75 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: they want to do is they want to build this 76 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: offense not only around him, but around Kareem Hunt with 77 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: the passing game kind of being the compliment. I like it. 78 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: I like the fact that they secured him, they locked 79 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: him up in training camp, they did put all their 80 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: money on the front end of the deal. And so 81 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: you're right in two or three years, if his play 82 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: begins to decline, it's easy for them to move off 83 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: that note. You know, but this brings up the same 84 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: question I asked every year during the draft, because you know, 85 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: it's such a analytics hot topic not to draft a 86 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: guy in the first round who's a running back. You 87 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: look at Nick Chubb, who was right at the front 88 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: end of the second round. He has a four year deal. 89 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: They redo it after three years. They the new deal, 90 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, absorbs twenty one. Basically, you got a new 91 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: twenty one, so you get you got a twenty one, 92 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: and you get money in terms of your twenty one deal, 93 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: some additional money, so you got twenty three. They got 94 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: a potential they can get out of it after twenty 95 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: three very easily, and then it goes all the way 96 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: to twenty four, whereas capit is sixteen point two million. 97 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: You know, you start adding it up, and that's a 98 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: total of a potential seven years. Well, you could also 99 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: draft a player in the first round, have him for 100 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: those five years, and then do a sixth and seventh 101 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: year in essence by giving them um by giving them 102 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: contracts that are are the you know, the franchise tag. 103 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: So you could still get six to seven years out 104 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: of a running back if that's what you're looking at, 105 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: the potential shelf life of when you want to get 106 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: a guy paid. And if you look over the the 107 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: if you look over the seven years in that particular instance, 108 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: it's going to be a reasonable contract for a running back. 109 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: So I still I still find it interesting that analytics 110 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: people and look, I'm not saying that's the first thing 111 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: you look for, and I'm not saying I'm doing in 112 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: the top twenty five picks necessarily, but I don't think 113 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: it's a crazy idea, especially if you have multiple first 114 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: round picks, to have club control quote unquote club control 115 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: over a player for five to seven years. Now, the 116 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: flip side of that is what's the player's response going 117 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: to be If they can't hit the market, they're gonna 118 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: be unhappy. So I think you do have to account 119 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: for that. But in this particular instance, you know, Cleveland 120 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: gave Nick Chubb a fair deal. And to your point, 121 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: Bucky about when you look at the contracts at running backs, 122 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: we're in such a league right now where the next 123 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 1: guy up, he's just gonna and most other positions, especially quarterback, 124 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: you just get paid even if you don't, you're above 125 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: the slotting of other players. But in running backs, it's 126 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: still pretty much according to ability. McCaffrey one, Kamara to 127 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: Elliott three, Cooked four, Henry five, and then Chubb, and 128 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, I could see those guys being 129 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: had a Chub. I mean, Elliott still has some things. 130 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: I think he still needs to have a strong bounce 131 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: back year this year. But man, Nick Chubb is six. 132 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: But that feels about right when you look at the 133 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: other players. Yeah, I do think it feels about right 134 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: where when you think about his style of play, the 135 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: fact that he was a runner up for a rushing 136 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: title two seasons ago, didn't get back to that level 137 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: last year, but you see his impact and how the 138 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: Browns play old school football. I am fine with them 139 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: operating like this. I think your point is one that 140 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: I've tried to make. We've tried to make on multiple occasions. 141 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: The value and drafts in a running back in the 142 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: first round is the fact that it gives you six, 143 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: maybe seven years of control, and he can wind and 144 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: moan and do all those things. But the poison pills 145 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: that are in the collective Bargaining Agreement means that he 146 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: has to show up and play, and that's just what 147 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: it is, Um, because of the fine schedule and those things. 148 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: And so I believe that you take the most talented one, 149 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: one that's worthy of being the first round pick, but 150 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: take him, keep him on the team control for five 151 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: six years, never having intention of resigning him. Let him 152 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: go because we have seen it running backs the best 153 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: years typically of the first four years of the NFL careers, 154 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: didn't the wear and tear tends to wear him down. Hey, 155 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 1: let's get him, Let's ride him to the wheels fall off, 156 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: bringing another one and move on. Um. Speaking of riding 157 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: to the wheels fall off and contracts and poison pills, 158 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned about being in a town and the Texans 159 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: and those things. I gotta ask you, because you got 160 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: boots on the ground. What in the world are the 161 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: Texans doing with Deshaun Wason? Why is the Shaun Watson 162 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: on scout team? He's reported they have to pay him 163 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: twenty million this year. Why aren't they treating him like 164 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback and trying to use him if they're 165 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: not gonna move him. I think the problem is they 166 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: know Deshaun is not going to does not want to 167 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: be the quarterback. I think the Texans, after all the 168 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: lawsuits have come out, I think they've given in on 169 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: the fact that, Okay, this is not gonna be our 170 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: long term he we don't want him as to face 171 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: the franchise. Now we're all on the same page, both sides. Um, 172 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: he's showing up just so he didn't have to catch 173 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: that fifty thou dollar a day. Fine, I don't blame him. 174 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to just give away fifty thou dollars, 175 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: especially when you're you're playing a lawyer's feed to Rusty 176 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: Harden that has been you know this this thing is 177 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: going on for quite a while. In those billable hours, well, 178 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: those billable hours are are adding up. So um, I 179 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: think it would be interesting though, if I think what 180 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: Nick Kissario is basically doing. Now there's a report today 181 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: that I heard. I haven't had a check on the 182 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: Deshaun wasn't out there today, so I need to, um 183 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: when we're recording this, so I need to check up 184 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: on that. You know, Deshaun and Pad's I don't think 185 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: that's something Deshaun wants. I don't think he really wants 186 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: to be out there because he knows he's not going 187 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: to be the quarterback. It's just to save his money 188 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: so that those poison pills, as you mentioned, if you 189 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: set it out it's fifty. You can't re send that 190 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: fine and that's that's that's fifty thou per day based 191 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: on Deshaun's um salary. I think that I think you're 192 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: what you're gonna see is that the two sides are 193 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: gonna either the Texans are gonna play hardball and say, no, 194 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: you got our signing bonus, that's not coming back to us. 195 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: So we're you're not We're not giving you anything other 196 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: than you can show up if you want and then 197 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: what have you playing safety and as a skeleton for 198 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: the scout team. Um, but we're not gonna make things 199 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: easy on you by telling you to go home and 200 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: you can still collect your money. That's one way they 201 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: can go about it. Or they can try to just 202 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: come to an agreement that, um, we're not going to 203 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: and I don't even know, Bucky if this is possible 204 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: where they say you don't come and we're I'm gonna 205 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: find you. I think the league has mandated so that 206 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: this this kind of thing doesn't happen. But the league 207 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: did not put them on the Commissioner's example list, which 208 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: would have taken this out of the hands of both 209 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: the team and the player. But I'm not sure the 210 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: team doesn't want a shot at getting some of their 211 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: money back, to be honest with you, So I think 212 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: that's why they're kind of they're they're kind of playing 213 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: tough with the Shawn and saying, look, you're not gonna 214 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: be our number one. You don't want to be. We're 215 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be our number two. We're just gonna 216 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: have you out here like a fourth string quarterback, so 217 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. You know. The funny thing is that, like, yeah, 218 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: he's being treated like the fourth string quarterback until pay 219 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: day comes around and the check is not like a 220 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: four string quarterback. So I don't believe the Texans are 221 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: necessarily treat teaching him a lesson, you're doing anything like 222 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: and and in my estimation, they're working against themselves because 223 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: if I'm running too Texans, if Deshaun Watson shows up 224 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: and he shows up the way that he showed up, 225 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: fitting trim and ready to go, all right, man, let's 226 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: hop in with the ones you're gonna play but I'm 227 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: not going to pay you to be my scout team 228 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: safety and running back and bag boy. I'm gonna get 229 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: it out of him. And I understand that Tyrod Taylor 230 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,599 Speaker 1: is there in those things. But let's be real, de 231 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: Sean Watson, if he's not traded right away, are we 232 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: just gonna keep him on the bench for eight the 233 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: twelve games just to prove a point to me that 234 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: is that's crazy. One or two things is gonna happen. 235 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to a I think everyone's waiting for 236 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 1: the commissioner to come down and impose, um, impost the 237 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: penalty in terms of how many games he's gonna be suspended, 238 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: and we can guess on it. You know, Roethlisberger had 239 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: six that got reduced I think to four. It was 240 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: a few years back, a little different situations. I guess 241 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: you could. I don't know. I'm trying to apple staff 242 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: a little, but I think I think that's I think 243 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: that's probably right. Whatever Zeke Elliott's suspension was, what was 244 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: Zeke six? I think, yeah, yeah, so I think it's 245 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: gonna I think it was a full six for ze 246 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: But when you look at you know, the likelihood of 247 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson being traded this year. Here's the problem. If 248 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: somebody wants to give you value for it, then that's fine. 249 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: You can deal him this year and the other team 250 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: can figure out what they want to do with him 251 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: relative to any game suspended. Um, anything short of that, 252 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: this is your last This is your best commodity and 253 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: last commodity. You moved to Avion Clowney and got a 254 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: third rounder form and paid seven million to Seattle to 255 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: take the contract. You got a second for DeAndre Hopkins 256 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: and you turn that into Brandon Cooks, who I could 257 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: see being traded potentially this year as well. Um, you 258 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: didn't get anything for j J. Watt, you just cut him. 259 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: You give up to first for Laramie Tunsel and didn't 260 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: get a deal done with him, so he had all 261 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: the leverage come contract time and he still has the 262 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: highest paid tackle contract to this day despite some pretty 263 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: good tackles getting deals. So, UM, I think with Deshaun Watson, 264 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: you've gotta wait until you get the best value. And 265 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, Bucky, I think the best value 266 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: is gonna come around combat. I think when we're at 267 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: the combine, that's what's up. That's what you that's what 268 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: because now all of a sudden, the Eagles are in play, 269 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: the Steelers may be in play, the Falcons may be 270 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: in play. Because I think Matt Ryan's gonna be a 271 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: cap casualty. I think the Saints could be in play. 272 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: All these teams who aren't currently in play, they're all 273 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: in play come come Combine time next year. So so 274 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: if that's going to be the case combine time, so 275 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: what are we gonna We can put him in Bowl 276 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: rep for a year. We're not going to play a 277 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: guy who played like a top five pick, a top 278 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: five quarterback last year, a guy who I mean, look 279 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: at the team's record wasn't so bad. The numbers were suggested. 280 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: He was an m v P caliber playmaker. He was 281 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: playing his best football the last time that we saw. 282 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: So we're going to put him on ice on principle, No, no, no, 283 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: no, no no, Deshan Watson has to come into play. I'm 284 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: having a conversation with you that I don't have even 285 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: on the radio station, like we just assumed, DeShawn said 286 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: he's not playing. But to your point, and from the 287 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: team's point, if they really wanted to, they could say Oh, 288 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: you're in camp. Great, you're not paying your fifty fine today. 289 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: Great you're here. Let's stick to him with the ones. 290 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: Oh we we we gotta get that, We gotta get 291 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: that work out of him. No, there's no free pass. 292 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: He doesn't get ah because Lance, you're going to gift 293 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: him twenty plus million dollars to not play, to not 294 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: practice and not be the leader of the team because 295 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be there. Oh no, you know, 296 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: like he has to be a just like the Green 297 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: Bay Packers thing. M hmm. Look here the terms. Here's 298 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: what we're doing. But we're not budging. So you let 299 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: me know when you're ready to come back. Deshaun Wasson 300 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: has come back. What now is time to get to work. 301 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: What you're saying is accurate to If the Texans wanted 302 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: to go in that direction, they could push in that direction. 303 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: Then if Deshaun wants to sit out, like he said, 304 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: that's when the fine start again. Right now, he could 305 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: just show up and and not get fined. And maybe 306 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: maybe the two are trying to keep up, and maybe 307 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: the Texans say, look, we want to keep the doors 308 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: open as much as possible because let's remember Deshaun Watson 309 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: has he has a no trade clause, so ultimately he 310 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: can say no to teams that the Texans want to 311 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: trade him to. Um So if he really wants to 312 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: get out of there, he may have to open it 313 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: up to a few more teams. And I think the 314 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: Texans are trying to play nice relatively speaking with Deshaun 315 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: Watson because they understand that they want to make it 316 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: as easy as possible to trade him when the day comes. 317 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: But Deshan still has that no trade clause where he 318 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: can say no. Okay, And so here's the thing about 319 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: that with the no trade clause, Like, because everyone's gonna say, 320 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: and I've said this from the jump, that is great 321 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: that he has a no trade clause, but his options 322 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: are he can play for us where you can play 323 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: the word we sent him. Hm, that's it. We didn't 324 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: have an issue with him being at quarterback because we 325 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: just broke him off to be the quarterback for a 326 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: long time. He is the one who wanted to get 327 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: out of the relationship. So if he's unhappy with where 328 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: we're sitting them, all right, we didn't come back, come 329 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: back to the crib and come play for us and 330 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: do it, do it the way that we saw you 331 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: do it the last time we saw you right out. 332 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because our perspective has changed in 333 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: Houston ever since the lawsuits. It become it became a 334 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: moot point, like Okay, well, Deshawn's gonna get suspended, he's 335 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: not gonna play this year anyway because he's gonna get 336 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: in trouble. They're gonna have the league. But the league 337 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: right now has not come down on Deshaan. So right 338 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: now he's he's showing up at camp. He's not getting fined. 339 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: There is no commissioner's exemplest for right now, Deshaun could 340 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: be taking the reps now, I understand. I understand Bucky 341 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: that trod Taylor is going to be your number one, 342 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: so you want to get him as reps. Davis Mills, 343 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: they feel like they need to take a look at because, 344 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: let's face it, next year they're gonna be in the 345 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: market for a quarterback again, and so I think they 346 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: want to have an eye idea of what they have 347 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: with David S. Mills, Driscoll, Jeff Dresco to me, is 348 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, just the guy that they've got on the 349 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: on the roster, but um, yeah, I don't know. I'm 350 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: gonna mix it up on the show tomorrow. I'm gonna 351 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: throw that out there and say, you know what, what's changed? 352 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: Really the Texans still have all the leverage. I mean 353 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: they have always had all the level always, So that's 354 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: why I don't understand this narrative behind it. Oh, Deshany, 355 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: he's unhappy, Okay, great, great, be unhappy? Like what is 356 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: he gonna do? So it's I don't know. It's a 357 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: fascinating story to watch. When I heard he was down 358 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: there taking reps on scout team in safety, to me, 359 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: I was like, if you're gonna put him in bubble rep, 360 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm definitely not gonna use him on scouts team. Either 361 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: he does nothing or he's doing everything on offense. But 362 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm definitely not playing him around like that. So let's 363 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: move on to UM training camp weekly quarterback Report. You 364 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: and I both are plugged in. I know you on 365 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: that hotline blinge where you're talking to everybody to kind 366 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: of figure out what's going on. I'll started with these 367 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: quarterback report Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville. Oh Lance, Oh how 368 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: are you looking? Oh? So much excitement building because every 369 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: every day they're like five or six throws that just 370 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: kind of conferred like oh yeah, okay, yeah, he's like 371 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, he's absolutely oh but we've never 372 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: seen a quarterback do these kinds of things like this 373 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: down here. Um, every day he has showing them that talent. 374 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: And so because he is who he is and how 375 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: he's wired, he look mean, he's the natural leader of 376 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: the team. Urban has created this quarterback competition between him 377 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: and Gordon to Misshoe. Yeah, but it's not a competition. 378 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: You can see it right away. Man, there's just a 379 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: night and night and day difference between the talent that 380 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: both guys possessed. Yeah, I think another guy to take 381 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: a look at. The number two quarterback grafted, Zack Wilson. 382 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: He was laid in the camp obviously with his contract situation, 383 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: but um, since he has come in and it's been 384 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: a very very small sample's eye. Yesterday, the talk was 385 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: that he looked really good. With Elijah More, there's already 386 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: a report building between Elijah More, the talented pass catcher 387 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: from Old Miss who everyone has really talked about. It 388 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: was he was my fourth favorite wide receiver in this 389 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: year's draft, and I thought it was a deep draft, 390 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: but I was a big, big fan still am. And 391 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: I like the fact that they get to come in together, 392 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: that you build a rapport right off the bat. Um 393 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback along with kind of a u an aggressive, 394 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: fearless route running specialists with deep speed. Elijah Moore has 395 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: got a chance. He's got great hands too. He's got 396 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: a chance, I think, to be kind of special in 397 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: that combination. So Um, smaller sample size for Zach Wilson, 398 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: but I know the Jets are very happy. And you know, 399 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay rather in uh in San Francisco, man 400 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: Trey Lance has been playing exceptionally well. In fact, he's 401 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: playing and practicing so well that I think it put 402 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: pressure on on Kyle Shanahan to come out and say, 403 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: who whoa, whoa wha, just just see y'all know this guy, 404 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo has got some time in the league, and 405 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: I think he wanted to make sure and stamp Jimmy 406 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: Garoppolo's passport and let him know, no, no, no, he's 407 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: gonna be here for a little bit before he takes off. 408 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: So we're gonna let you all know Jimmy's back. We're 409 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: gonna stamp that passport. We're gonna keep him here for 410 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: the year. But Trey Lance is one of the things 411 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: that stood out to me Buck is that uh Deebo. 412 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: Samuel's talked about the fact that you know, this guy's 413 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: got some balls, meaning he's willing to make aggressive throws. 414 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: And that was something in college that I thought he 415 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: shied away from aggressive throws. And I remember talking to 416 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: Um talking to Quincy Avery about that and we were 417 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: talking about whether or not that's something he could learn, 418 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: and Quincy's like, that's how he was coached, that's where 419 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: the offense wanted him to go. Quincy didn't seem to 420 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: have any doubt the Trey Lance we worked with before. 421 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: You know, before the draft that he'd have an issue 422 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: Um being an aggressive passer. He didn't think there was 423 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: gonna be an issue, and so far in camp he 424 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: had he has not had that issue. Now. I wouldn't 425 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: expect him to have that issue because he's look, he's big, fast, 426 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: as talented, he is everything that you wanted. A new 427 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: prototypical quarterback can do what understanding do it from the gun. 428 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: They're the accurate in in every kind of aspect of 429 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: the game. He has all of the stuff. The thing is, 430 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: you just don't know where you you plug him in 431 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: at because they're so unusual and orthox and what they 432 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: were doing not so much unusual, but just the way 433 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: that they moved him around and did a bunch of things. 434 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: In North dnota state, they only had seventeen gree games. 435 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: So now you get to the Niners, and I think 436 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan has an opportunity to do what I call 437 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 1: the best of both worlds offense, meaning he can do 438 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: all of his traditional outside zone stretched bootleg stuff, but 439 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: now he can just put the sprinkles on top of 440 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: the cake and he can let Trey Lands do some 441 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: of that r G three stuff that really made that 442 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: Washington football team offense so difficult to defend when he 443 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: had a talented running back behind it. I just like, 444 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: what this where this is trend? Fully expect Trey Lance 445 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: to be on the field this year. Trey Lance had 446 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: special attributes um the mobility, the size, he's got, the arm, talent, 447 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: and he is going I cannot stress this enough. You 448 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: want to talk about a quarterback friendly offense and a 449 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: coach who understands how to get the most out of 450 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: a quarterback. I mean, he was a player too away 451 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: from winning a Super Bowl. Garoppolo, he was really a 452 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 1: bad he meeting Shanahan. He was really too aggressive on 453 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: the play calling. Or he went to Super Bowl with 454 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons where his quarterback was m v P. 455 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: Matt Shob had his best in the one year of 456 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: play as play caller in Houston, Matt Shob had his 457 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: best year r G three was Rookie of the Year 458 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: under Kyle Shanahan. I'm not worried about what he's gonna 459 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: do with the quarterback. Um. The question is when is 460 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: he gonna do it? And I think that's the question 461 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: also in Chicago, when is Justin Field's gonna take over. 462 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: But one of the things we're finding and is as 463 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: Trey Lance is is kind of showing out and forcing 464 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: the coach to to kind of pig up the old 465 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: starter and make sure they know what's going on with him. 466 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: It's a little different scenario where Andy Dalton is showing 467 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: up to compete and Andy Dalton, by all accounts, is 468 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: having a really solid camp. Let's remember Bill Laser, who 469 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: is the play caller there. He was with Andy in 470 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: Cincinnati so he's already got a feel for it. And 471 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: I think Bill Laser is gonna be potentially a very 472 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: good play caller for Justin Fields from a stylistic standpoint. 473 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: But right now in camp, according to the Bears insiders, 474 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: Justin Fields has been solid, but Andy has been really 475 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: professional and really consistent. And I think this's just and 476 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: I think it's probably a good thing for the Bears 477 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: that and for Justin Fields that he is more than 478 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: likely gonna be able to take a more conservative pathway 479 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: towards being the starter because when it happens, they're not 480 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: going backwards once. Once he gets in, he's in it. Yeah. 481 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: So here's the thing about Justin Fields. I think understanding 482 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: the offense has been great. Um, he talked about it. 483 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: You can see how they whipping through progressions and the 484 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: US and he gets that. He said the biggest challenge 485 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: for him was spinning plays out in the hall, like 486 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: actually getting the call from the earpiece, remembering the call 487 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: and reminding. He said, it's tough because when you're in 488 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: college everything is off the placards or signals or whatever. 489 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: And one of our researchers the NFL Network played high 490 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: schoolball for me at Walming and didn't had a chance 491 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: to play in the league. He said, Chris McNeil, big, 492 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: Chris McNeil, A big Chris So Chris uh literally text 493 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: me said, look, but what you don't understand is in 494 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: high school and college, I'm used to walk into my 495 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: stands where seeing what's on the thing, processing what that means, 496 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: and and being like ready to go. He said. With 497 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: justin Fields, it's a lot similar because he's so used 498 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: to looking at the plaquards or whatever the code one 499 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: word play calls are. Now it's different. Now it comes 500 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: in red right, um, tip tap. He's like all kinds 501 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: of verbage in there, and he's trying to decide, for one, 502 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: what does everything mean? Um, how do I do it? 503 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: Where am my protection? Where am I going with all 504 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: of this stuff? And it's a defense moved and then 505 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: we get to do it all over. I mean, it's 506 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: a lot, a lot to juggle. It's amazing the conversations 507 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: we have every year, Bucky. I remember the ones that 508 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: we're being had. When I first started with the NFL, 509 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: media was about under center snaps and how many guys 510 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: had never taken snaps under center. A lot of them 511 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: had taken center under center, And I remember I used 512 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: to help DJ get the snap count for under center, 513 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: shotgun and pistol because we saw a lot more pistol 514 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: at that time and like two thousand two sixteen, and 515 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: the question was always, well, this guy hasn't taken many 516 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: snaps under center. Now it's not even that. Now it's 517 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: about has he ever called to play? Because with with 518 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: seven on seven, with high school football, the way it 519 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: is with college, more and more teams are getting away 520 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: from calling plays and and and signaling plays in you know, 521 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: with a with a with a wide receiver or whatever. 522 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: Now it's just about Okay, here's our sign, here's our placard, 523 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: it's Coco Crispies. Um, it's Cam from Modern Family, it's 524 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: Paul Wall and it's a bottom of Fanta. Okay, go ahead, 525 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: like that's what it is. And and look, it's a 526 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: changing deal where they haven't adapted adjust on the FLI. 527 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: It's one of those things where, um, sometimes the work 528 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: would be the guy who wasn't necessarily the uh, the 529 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: best in building, but the one who understands where everything fits. 530 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: They have success quicker than they're more talented peers. It's 531 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: because they know exactly what they're supposed to know, and 532 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: the great of following through and doing it. Let me 533 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: top cy Turv a real quick doesn't It also kind 534 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: of tell you something when the more simple systems in 535 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: high school and in college lead to sometimes more explosive results. 536 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: In other words, the idea simplifying. I know when my 537 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: dad was a he was on the Cincinnati staff with 538 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin and Rex Ryan and Jimbo Fisher like they 539 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: had they were killers University of Cincinnati. The college had 540 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: his unbelievable staff, but he had Um. We were talking 541 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: about his running game and he said, Lance, We've got 542 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: six running plays. That's it. It's it's really really simple, um, 543 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: what we have. And he's always talked about, you know, 544 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: he was an offensive line coach and and he's big 545 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: into the running game design and also obviously past protection. 546 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: But his entire thing has been simplify, if you simplify. 547 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: He's got his start with Bill Yeoman's Vera offense, and 548 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: that was not a complicated offense. Then he went from 549 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: there and he ended up going to the World League 550 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: of American Football with Mouse with with Mouse Davis, and 551 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: it was like, oh my gosh, this man thinks you 552 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: only protect with five ever, and so he said that 553 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: was a great baptism by fire. But what it also 554 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: taught is that simplicity is such an important part of 555 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: of success because you can just respond and react rather 556 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: than overthink it. And in college it's all about simplicity, 557 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: maybe to the point it's overdone. But as a coach, Bucky, 558 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thought on that simplicity versus complexity. 559 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: Where's the sweet spot in the NFL? Right now? For offenses? Now, 560 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: I think simplicity is everything. And the reason why Lance, Um, 561 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: when you're simple and you don't do a lot, you 562 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: can run those things versus every defense that you see. 563 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: So it gives your your team confidence and knowing that 564 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: their own direction. So so that's why. Secondly, by being 565 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: simple and only using what's essential, you guys can wrap 566 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: it over and over and over again. Um, I think 567 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: Bruce Lee said, I fear not the man who has 568 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: done ten thousand kicks one time. I fear the man 569 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: who's done one kick ten thousand times, because it's the 570 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: mastery part of it. When you're simple and you do 571 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: do a lot, you're able to really pummel people because 572 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: you know exactly what to do versus everything and then 573 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: no surprises. And so that that is why we're seeing 574 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: more of that um in the league, because teams to 575 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: have success just getting the guys lined up and running. 576 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: And I'll see this if you go back and study 577 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: the greats in the NFL and from a coaching standpoint, 578 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: Don Shula, Chuck no Um and others. I mean, look, 579 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: we can talk about some of the others that deserve 580 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: me on the list. The common of nominee is always 581 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: saying they always put a great emphasis on, Hey, I 582 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: want my team to play fast and free, so let's 583 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: not do a lot of complex things. Let's make sure 584 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: we get them to the game fast and ready to go. 585 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: Reps rap trap. It's why I'm a big proponent of 586 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: the outside zone running game, because I feel like the 587 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: more reps you get, you become a unit, you become 588 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: one single flowing entity, and I feel like that's really 589 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: advantageous a running game standpoint. It's something I studied under. 590 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: You know, how Alex Gibbs did it, how my dad 591 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: has coached it. Um. I'm just a big fan of 592 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: the outside zone for some of the same Number one 593 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: you told me that basically Malcolm Gladwell stole from Bruce Lee. 594 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: That's what I took out of this is that ten 595 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: thousand reps. I thought that was Malcolm Gladwell's thing. I 596 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: don't know Bruce Bruce, Yeah, Bruce Lee's the one that 597 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: coined shout out to war here. I'm watching so when 598 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: yeah and so and so when you think about that 599 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: part of it, like mastery not not doing a lot 600 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: in those things, I mean you talk about at the 601 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: collegiate level, Man, I look over there Lincoln Roley whipping 602 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: people with a three by five in this card as 603 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: his play sheet. I mean to me, that's when you 604 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: really got it. Because too, Steve Johns Will talking about 605 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: to really be simple. He said, that's the ultimate sophistication 606 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: because it means that you're able to really wipe away 607 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: all of the non essential items just to keep what 608 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: is necessary. And so when you think about Avis Gibbs, 609 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: I want to see those Alis Gibbs team from the 610 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: from le Broncos. They ran outside zone. They run tight zone. 611 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: That's where they ran. They're gonna run it over and 612 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,479 Speaker 1: over and over again. Now they had some little different 613 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: personnel groupings, but and doing that stuff. But hey, man, 614 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: everybody's doing the same thing every day. You do that 615 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: over time, you've become really really good at So I 616 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on my I had to 617 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: write it. The only work they're making me do during 618 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: the summer is my offensive and Defensive Rookie of the 619 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: Year stuff. Although I'm peeping the tape right now because 620 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta stay ahead of it. Um, I 621 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: do want to give you some some some little tidbits here, Bucky. 622 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: Let me see if you knew this. Only three receivers 623 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: have won this award over the last twenty two years. 624 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: That's it. No tight end and no offensive alignment has 625 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: ever won Offensive Rookie of the Year. And how about 626 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: this one? Last season was the first time since Vince 627 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: Young in two thousand and six that a player from 628 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: the a f C won the Offensive Rookie of the 629 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: airward was justin Herbert. Yeah. Long run uh for the 630 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: NFC This year, I would say it goes back to 631 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: back because the big favorite has to be the guy 632 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: that we talked about previously, and that's Trevor Lawrence. Um, 633 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: he got some tools around Trevor to work with Number ten. 634 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: I've got Travis Stien at number ten on my list, 635 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: but Trevor Lawrence is my number one, and I think 636 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: he's a clear cut number one. Yeah, he should be 637 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: a cleric of the number one. It's funny that you 638 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: brought up Justin Herbert, because when I evaluated Trevor Lawrence, 639 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: I say, look, he's Justin Herbert. Plus he's the exact 640 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: same size frame. When I used to look at Justin 641 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: Herbert when he was at Oregon, I liken him to 642 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence because I thought their games were so similar. 643 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: The reason why I say he's Justin Herbert. Plus, I 644 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: think he's more dynamic, more explosive, has maybe more armed 645 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: talent than Justin Herbert. And that's fully acknowledging that Justin 646 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: Herbert is special and really deserving to be in a 647 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: top five, top six. Know you know, number two. I 648 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: understand the quarterbacks primarily when this, but you know this 649 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: used to be a running back award as well back 650 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: in the day. And so I made Naji Harris my 651 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: number two. He's not number two with the oddsmakers, but 652 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of fall off the wayside because 653 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it like this, Okay, Trey Lance. I 654 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to get enough reps this year 655 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: to be a factor. Justin Fields will talk about in 656 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: a second, But Naji is gonna be the first down back, 657 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,719 Speaker 1: the goal lineback. He will be a third down option. 658 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: They are going to ride Nagi Harris. This is gonna 659 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: be there Levian Bell, only with first round money behind him. Yeah, 660 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: I think so. Look at he is so eerily similar 661 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: to Matthew Forte DJ Compared to Matthew Forte. I continue 662 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: to bring up the comparisons to Levian Bill, not necessarily stylistically, 663 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: but obviously impact his ability to impact and still his 664 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: offense will match what the Bill's ability to impact the 665 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: offense was in terms of a true runner who also 666 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: had the ability to go out in space and live 667 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: out there it catch passes and make exposed to plays 668 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: and then come all the way back um and and 669 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: and just dealed up and do it. I just love 670 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: the way that Najia harrisk is down. I love what 671 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: this still is it going to do with him? I 672 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: think this is an opportunity for us to witness a 673 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: young guy emerge as a superstar in your one. I've 674 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: got Kyle Pitts number. I put justin Fields three. I 675 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: put Zach Wilson five. I might flip flop them right 676 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: now if I had the opportunity from when I wrote it. 677 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 1: But I put Kyle Pitts four. Now. I fully understand 678 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: that no tight end has ever won this, but I'm 679 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: really looking at him as more of a pass catcher. 680 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: What do you think about his chances with no Julio Jones, Um, 681 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: what the Falcons? You do still have Russell gauge running game. 682 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens with the running game. And obviously 683 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley is your wide receiver one. But why can't 684 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: I mean, if Matt Ryan's Matt Ryan's a pretty good passer, 685 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: why can't Matt Ryan go find Kyle Pitts nine or 686 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: ten times in the red zone? Why is that not 687 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: a possibility? No, I think it should be a possibility. 688 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: I would go back and look at mad Ground when 689 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: he said real tight ends available to him. Tony Tony 690 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: g certainly comes to mind. Um gos Whoyes here, Oh yeah, yeah. 691 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 1: Austin Hooper. Austin Hooper a little bit from the Falcons. 692 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: He doesn't mind working in the middle of the field 693 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 1: and so with Calpits, even though people are gonna project 694 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: him out to be the big jumbo well receiver, I 695 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: think this dude is really talented receiving his talented extend 696 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: um well beyond the surface level. Am I too low 697 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: on Jamaar Chase? I've got him six? He didn't play 698 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: football last year. I think he is a little bit 699 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: he's a little bit raw still. But all I can 700 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: think about is the last time he played football was 701 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: against Clemson and he put nine catches for two one 702 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: and two touchdowns on them. And guess what, He's got 703 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: the same quarterback now that he had back then. So 704 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: it's not like Joe Burrow is not gonna have a 705 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of confidence and throwing to Jamaar Chase. Yeah, 706 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: And listening to Zach Taylor talk about Jamar said, he 707 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: talks about how he has all of it. He has 708 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: it all. Explosive, vertical jumper, great hands, sat aside, speed, 709 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: quick like, he has all of it. So one quick 710 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: one a dark horse. I went with javan My dark 711 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: horse in the article is Mac Jones just because he's 712 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: a quarterback. But the guy that I think is intriguing 713 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: is Javonte Williams. Uh U, n C. You're a guy 714 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: from North Carolina. But Javante is the truth now he can. 715 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: He is a talented running back that kind of was 716 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: overshadowed a little bit by Naja Harris and Travis at 717 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: the end and this year's draft. But I thought his 718 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: talent from I thought his talent level is very similar 719 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: to the other two guys. Oh he sounding it was 720 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: a tremendous big time player. Man, He's gonna have an 721 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: opportunity to do really good things. And Mike Munchet has 722 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: done a great job of the office line. Yeah, I 723 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: think he's I think Javontay Williams has an opportunity behind 724 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: that office line put up big numbers. I know we're 725 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: going to year big numbers, big numbers on my defensive side, 726 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: big big numbers. Um, I think very very quickly to um, Michael, 727 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 1: I think he's a big fantasy sleeper. To me, I'm 728 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: telling everybody, javont Williams the guy you need to look 729 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: at because I think he's gonna run the ball the 730 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: way they like the ball run, and he will keep 731 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,919 Speaker 1: it between his tackles when it needs to be there. 732 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: I've got Micah Parsons one as my defensive I think 733 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: it has to be. To me, it's Mica should be 734 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: a big favorite. I like Jamon Davis from Washington. I 735 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: like him at number two. This is where it gets tricky, 736 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: trying to come up with the guys after linebacker, because 737 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: if you're gonna get a lot of tackles, you've got 738 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: a great shot at winning. Four. The last five have 739 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: been on How State players Defensive Rookie of the Year. 740 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: That's not gonna be this year. We're not gonna have 741 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: an know How State winners. But Jalen Phillips, Quitty Pay, 742 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: Zavin Collins, these are some of the guys that I'm 743 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: looking at um next up, because if you can get sacks, 744 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 1: you can win this award. The question is can Quitty 745 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: Pay or Jalen Phillips get enough sacks because usually you 746 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: gotta get up around the eight or nine sack sack range. 747 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: Can either one of those guys Bucky get to that 748 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: magic nine or even ten sack range where they could 749 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: challenge Trevor Lawrence. I like Quitty Pay. I don't know 750 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: if he's polished enough to get there, but what I 751 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: like about him is he's gonna get one on ones 752 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: all day, and that Matt ebra Flus and Chris Bellt 753 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: and what they talked about in there about hustling and 754 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: playing hard and doing all those things. He's built to 755 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: be that he is perfect for what they do. And 756 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: I know everyone is casting doom and gloom on the 757 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: coach right now because of Carson wentz U. There is 758 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,280 Speaker 1: a report that just came out about q Nelson, Quinn 759 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 1: Nelson potentially having to sit up this defense can steal 760 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: lead the way and so they're gonna have to play 761 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: at a high level. But I think I think that potentially, 762 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: I think they can get it done. Yeah, I did too, 763 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,439 Speaker 1: And I think Quity pay is gonna be fun to watch. 764 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: Two guys that I love a lot of Patrick Sirtan 765 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: and j. C. Horn, but they did not have a 766 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: lot of interception production in college. And one thing that's 767 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: one thing that's been true when I looked at the 768 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: statistics over the years, Marcus Peters and Marshawn Lattimo are 769 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: the only two cornerbacks to win the awards since nineteen nine, 770 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: only two corners, and both of them had five or 771 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: more interceptions as a rookie. So when I apply that 772 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: filter that you know that statistic that trend to this 773 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: year's class. My question is can J C. Horne or 774 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: Kim Patrick, Sir Tan can they get there? Ken Greg Newsome? 775 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 1: Can these guys get there? From an inter interception standpoint? 776 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: That's the question that I'm not sure I could I 777 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: could answer. Um, Well, I think I can't answer it. No, 778 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: but that's what I feel like. My answer is, I'm 779 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: gonna throw one guy at you and then uh, I'll 780 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: let you take it from there. I've got Christian Barmore tent. 781 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: I just know this guy can play like I understand 782 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 1: that he fell in the draft, but when the tape 783 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: is on, this joker can't rush from the interior. He 784 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: can be an impact UM run defender. I understand that 785 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 1: the motor can run a little bit hot and cold, 786 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: and he's had some inconsistency. I don't think the talent 787 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: is an issue. I've heard that he can be a 788 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: little bit immature and maybe that hurt him. But he 789 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: went to a team that has a connection with Alabama 790 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: right in New England Patriots. He's on a team that 791 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: could use some help from the interior, especially from a 792 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: rush standpoint. Why Why, Why can't Christian Barmore be a 793 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: bigger factor than people are talking about this year with 794 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 1: the with the Patriots. You know, I don't know. I 795 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: don't know why people don't haven't talked about him. Because 796 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: he was a dominant player. He flashed. It was tough 797 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: to just say, hey, I'm gonna get this guy, you 798 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: know outside first round grade like this, this is a 799 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: very talented player. He was hot and cold. But man, 800 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: I've learned a long time ago that you grade the flashes, 801 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: and the flashes that he put on tape were dominant 802 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: and high level, then you're going to gamble on his 803 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,919 Speaker 1: ability to recreate those things. I don't think he will 804 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: have a long transition before he's not gonna do it 805 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: really to play. Yeah, I don't think so either. He's 806 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,439 Speaker 1: just too talented, and I think people kind of fell 807 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: asleep on him for a little bit because he was 808 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: not you know, he did not go as early as 809 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: I thought the talent. I thought it's I think it's 810 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: talented to be a mid first rounder, but that obviously 811 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: didn't happen. But I would not sleep on him because 812 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: now that the draft is over, you put the jersey on, 813 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what your number was, don't matter where 814 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: you're drafted. Let's go see if you can get the 815 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: quarterback and be disruptive. And I think he can't do that, 816 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: Oh I ain't. I think he absolutely can do it. 817 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: A very disruptive player and one of the best players 818 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: UM in college football as he makes his way to 819 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: the league. And one of the best guys that I've 820 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: ever been around is doing this. MC guy who joined 821 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: me today, LZ, he just as great man. I love 822 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: chopping this thing up. And I know that Astros are 823 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: taken on the Dodges. In fact, I'm gonna be in 824 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: the building watching dad. You know, I'm just gonna try 825 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: and make sure that um stay quiet. No bullying, no bulling. No, 826 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't want them to bang on trash cans and 827 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: all that other stuff, because like, you don't do that 828 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: out here in La La Land. But it should be 829 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: fun because Mookie Best has moved the second base UM 830 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: trying to save some wear and tear on the on 831 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: the body second base shortstop that's where he drafted that. 832 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: So well, we'll see what this thing looks at. But 833 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: Dusty Dusty got your guys going Dusty Bay. Yeah, wrist 834 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: bands I think you need to get the wristbands with 835 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 1: your own face on it. That's a dusty move. Back 836 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: in the day, you used to have um wrist band 837 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: with watch for Reggie Roby. Sometimes Reggie would just go 838 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: just straight watch for you when he was putting, you know, 839 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: the potter with all the flexs that he would check 840 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 1: his own hang time with his watch with the old 841 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: school uh time X. And now you've got Dusty rocking 842 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: the wrist bands seventies something years old toothpicked wrist bands. 843 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: Same Dusty, Dusty, same Dusty. Papa. We got Papa Dusty. Hey, 844 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: look he got him going there, absolutely going there. They're 845 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: playing well, the Dodgers still trying to figure out who 846 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: they are and all that other stuff in you know, 847 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: West is bananas. So it should be a lot of fun. Man, 848 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: this is a lot of fun. I look forward to 849 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: having you come on again and do this like whenever, 850 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: whenever DJ is out. You know, l Z east Man 851 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: that I got a call because the chemistry, the connectivity, 852 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 1: and plus no one breaks it down, chopped and screwed 853 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: like my man, Lance. Lance. I appreciate you. Hey, thanks 854 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: so much guys for listening to the movie. Six podcast, 855 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: We'll See You Again, coming up this Thursday,