WEBVTT - HR2: Draft Focus

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to our number two of the Drive here

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<v Speaker 1>on Steelers Nation Radio. And uh well, we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into our DFS lineup for the super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>just yet. Tomorrow it'll be tomorrow. Tomorrow will be super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl centric kind of show. Uh So, today I thought

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<v Speaker 1>we'd look at another updated big board as well. This

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<v Speaker 1>is when you said, I mean this is from the

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<v Speaker 1>Draft Scout.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a it's a pay site. It's uh I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's Matt Miller's site up up my head.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. The thing that I like about this one, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like it and I don't like it. They give

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<v Speaker 1>you comps and all the players. Yeah, and nobody ever

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<v Speaker 1>Pickure Rough. Nobody ever says you know, he reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>of Tony Mandrich, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all these guys are going to be hit and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a blend of Christian McCaffrey and Jim Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you should go higher than the thirty guy thirty

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<v Speaker 2>thigh in your board, don't you think. And of course

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<v Speaker 2>Mconkey's going to be welker, Yeah, I mean, can be

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>No, right, right, of course, right, Okay, So looking at

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<v Speaker 1>his top fifty, he's got Caleb Williams number one. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>his pro comp is Patrick Mahomes meets Russell Wilson.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good combination.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're telling me is Caleb Williams is gonna win.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The way they have between the two of them, eight

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl appearances, you know, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Get some comps or just style of play. This is

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<v Speaker 2>what they could become if everything hits. But they're always

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<v Speaker 2>a little rich, little rich. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>His number two players marvs Marvin Harrison Junior. The comp

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<v Speaker 1>is a J. Green.

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<v Speaker 2>I see that. I think he's more physical.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's more physical than J Green ever was

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't camp him to his dad. No, he's big,

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<v Speaker 1>He's a lot bigger. He's not that much like his dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Number three Drake may comp a shorter Josh Allen.

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<v Speaker 2>I get Herbert a lot when I hear comps from him, good, mover, prototypical,

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<v Speaker 2>but still, I mean he's cut two inches off Josh Allen.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll be pretty dark good good, yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Jayden Daniels at four, look at the comps, a better

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<v Speaker 1>passing Lamar Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's gonna win two MVPs four years.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh five is Malik Neighbors. Okay, his comp is Brandan Ayuk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah kind of see that, you know, all right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>rout runner physical.

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<v Speaker 1>UH six is a Duneesa from Washington. The comp is

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<v Speaker 1>a slower Jamar Chase.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard Larry Fitzgerald, which is also pretty Yeah, they's

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<v Speaker 2>get testy catch guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh seven is Joe Alt. The comp is Joe Thomas.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a Hall of Famer. Yeah, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>UH eight is Forashanu, the offensive tackle out of Penn State.

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<v Speaker 1>The comp is Tron Armstead.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that camp. I mean again, these are rich.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean these are best case scenario. If you draft

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<v Speaker 2>him at eight and he turns into Tron armstead'retty pretty

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<v Speaker 2>happy about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Uh nine is Dallas Turner, the defensive end out

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<v Speaker 1>of Alabama, and the comp is Josh Allen, the pass rusher.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's similar athletic Bendy.

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<v Speaker 1>Tennis Tron Arnold Terry and Arnold the cornerback out of Alabama.

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<v Speaker 1>The comp is Patrick certain the second who.

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<v Speaker 2>Might be the best corner to league might be I

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<v Speaker 2>think Arnold's a little more slot physical. Their styles the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh at eleven is Talasi fa Wagga, the offensive tackle

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<v Speaker 1>at Oregon State, and the comp is Lane Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't move like Lane Johnson. Lane Johnson round like

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<v Speaker 2>a four to seven like dightened to me. I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>Lane Johnson comparisons their tight ends turned right tackles in

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma that can really run.

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve is Brock Bowers, the title of Georgia and the

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<v Speaker 1>Pro compass Sam Laporta. They're different too, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Bowers is kind of a get open, quick, really good

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<v Speaker 2>after the catch too.

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<v Speaker 1>I might more Go and Kincaid Yeah, yeah, they're more

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<v Speaker 1>similar in size yeah and usage. Yeah. Thirteen is Jared Diversity,

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive end out of Florida State. The comp is

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew Judon power Players.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Fourteen is Brian Thomas Junior, the wide receiver out of LSU.

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<v Speaker 1>That's as high as I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I said. That's pretty rich for him too.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pro comp a stable George Pickens. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get that now why you need the stability

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<v Speaker 2>part to add to it? But body control, length, downfield reception,

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<v Speaker 2>similar body types, basketball type of a build. I see

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<v Speaker 2>that part.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Fifteen Byron Murphy, the second the defensive tackle of

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Pro Comp Aaron Donald's little brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a short Geno Atkins type. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixteen is lay to the defensive end at of UCLA,

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<v Speaker 1>and the pro comp is Jalen Phillips on and off

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<v Speaker 1>the field. I don't know what that means.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they both retired because the injuries and then rejuvenated

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<v Speaker 2>themselves in the PAC ten and we're gonna be first

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<v Speaker 2>round picks.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventeen is Tyler Geiton the pro comp is Anton Harrison.

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<v Speaker 2>They're both Oklahoma guys, but I think it stops there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd I'd rather have geiten.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, even then the draft version areas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't love Harrison.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighteen is Troy Fatanu, the guard from Washington, and the

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<v Speaker 1>pro comp is Brandon Shirf.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he was a tackle at Iowa that went to guard. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I was thanks Gronky's the low hanging fruit there.

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<v Speaker 1>But nineteen is Jerson Newton, the defensive tackle out of Illinois,

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<v Speaker 1>and the pro comp is Greedy Jarrett.

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<v Speaker 2>Also the short, short field in the stocky attacking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Twenty Cooper dejen the cornerback out of Iowa, and

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<v Speaker 1>the pro comp is luxurious snead but white. So some

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<v Speaker 1>people want to play him at safety.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just kind of funny. I thought he might be Seahorn,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Yeah, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Can see them.

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<v Speaker 2>See he's actually started some safety in his career too.

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<v Speaker 1>But the safety stuff to me with with Dejene isn't

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<v Speaker 1>just because he's white. Because of his size.

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<v Speaker 2>He's so physical and he's so big. I mean, Sneve's

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<v Speaker 2>a really good comfort him. The way I think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Jeane's actually more athletic. But Sneed started

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<v Speaker 2>as a mid mid to late round picking was a

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<v Speaker 2>fifth something like that. He didn't come in a league

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<v Speaker 2>like the Jeene safety slot special team or just got

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<v Speaker 2>better and better and better. And I follows Ones all

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<v Speaker 2>over the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love Degene.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty one j C. Latham, laugh them I should say

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<v Speaker 1>offensive kid Latham or.

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<v Speaker 2>Latham, I'd be calling him Latham.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. The comp is Juan Taylor minus the flags.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, better, better, better? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty two are Marius Mims, the offensive tackle from Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>Pro comp Evan Neil pre draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean Neil was kind of freaky. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Mims is more talented than Neil. Neil is always considered

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<v Speaker 2>very cerebral and more experienced. He scares me a little bit, mems, mims.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to learn more.

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<v Speaker 1>The more I study him like this, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>like to see him play more.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a concern. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty three JJ McCarthy the pro comp is an athletic

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk Cousins.

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<v Speaker 2>Not to make this all about race, but why not

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<v Speaker 2>just pick an athletic fellow that has darker skin than

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<v Speaker 2>Kirk Cousins.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Much more athletic than Kirk Cousins. Yeah, that that's a

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<v Speaker 2>terrible call.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty four in this Rekestraw, the cornerback out of Missouri

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<v Speaker 1>the Pro comp is Denzel Ward.

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<v Speaker 2>He's bigger, bigger than right, not the same body type.

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<v Speaker 2>Ward's a good player.

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<v Speaker 1>But twenty five Quinny and Mitchell. The cornerback out of

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<v Speaker 1>Toledo in the pro comp is Jalen Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good one. Yeah, I can live with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty six is Bo Nicks and the pro comp is

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Goff.

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<v Speaker 2>Golf throws ball a lot better. Yeah, I mean Goff

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<v Speaker 2>throws a ball like a first overall pick. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>Nix is more efficient. I actually think Knicks has is

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<v Speaker 2>like Drew Brees, michelb Lighte. Yeah, michelob Baltra. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I just said his style of play is more efficient.

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<v Speaker 2>Golf can sling it. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty seven. Kean Coleman, the wide receiver at of Florida

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<v Speaker 1>State in the comp is Nico Collins.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Like, no one's gonna say Kelvin Benjamin No, but

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<v Speaker 2>he could be killing could Yeah. That's a cool thing

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<v Speaker 2>that Matt Waldman does is he does just skill position

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<v Speaker 2>players sort of for fantasy. But he'll say, best case scenario,

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<v Speaker 2>here's a spectrum he's on, right, Yeah, he's Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 2>all a lot of like Devonte Parker, Like that's not great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but not everyone hits.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty eight Jackson powers Johnson in the Pro comp is Dawson.

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<v Speaker 1>Frank Ragnow that's going Yeah. I might note Frank Ragnow

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<v Speaker 1>in his draft, which was twenty eighteen, went with the

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth pick in the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey did another big bruiser, bad dude, and might be

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<v Speaker 2>now that Kelree center, now that Kelsey's retired, he might

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<v Speaker 2>be number one. He might be number one. Health has

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<v Speaker 2>been a little concerned he plays for he plays. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's tough. That's a great.

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<v Speaker 1>Your name is Rag now you got to play through?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I always said they're Vikings, Rag Lothbrook whatever

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<v Speaker 2>his name was.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty nine Darius Robinson the defensive Charles omenahey a manaho Omnaho.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, get yeah, more talented to mena who but big end.

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<v Speaker 2>That's also a tackle, you know, tough fit. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty at Donnie Mitchell, someone fast, t Higgins.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I always get the two Texas guys worthyes, reumer.

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<v Speaker 1>Donny Mitchell's sixty or tall, skinny yeah yeah, two hundred pounder.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Thirty one is Xavier Worthy. He's the skinny one, tall, skinny,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like six too. Yeah yeah. His his comp is

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<v Speaker 1>a full sized this Shawn Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, well he's that kind of speed. He has

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of speed's just taller, longer, kind of advante

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<v Speaker 2>Smith body type yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Thirty two kool Aid McKinstry the cornerback out of

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama and the pro comp is Charvarius Ward.

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<v Speaker 2>Ward's a good player, seem Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty three Chris Braswell, the defensive end out of Alabama.

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<v Speaker 1>The pro comp is Harold Landry.

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<v Speaker 2>I have like Landry's career. He's been a little up

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<v Speaker 2>and down. But okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty four Lad mcconkeye the wide receiver out of Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet it's not Thurell Owens.

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<v Speaker 1>The pro comp is pookin the Kua. He's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>smaller than the similar at all. Yeah, he's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>small as like two twenty five. And he's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>big dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean McConkie's not because the color of his skin,

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<v Speaker 2>people think he's welker. He's bigger than that in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of length and height, but he's not thick like Nakula,

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<v Speaker 2>who is hard to tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>The Coop is like a mini tight end.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah ye him, and he cracks back on d ns

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<v Speaker 2>and things like that. He's like Cooper Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty five Michael Pennix, the quarterback as Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>This is okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Vick to It can't beat Michael Vick. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be someone that's has more pigment than me. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a lefty.

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<v Speaker 1>You're wrong, I see.

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<v Speaker 2>I compared him Philip Rivers. Everyone lost their mind, like

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<v Speaker 2>lefty Kirk Cousins. I can see that he throws ball

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<v Speaker 2>better than Cousins. Yeah, I mean just the flick of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Ball comes out. Yeah, real easy.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't move very well though at all. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh thirty six to Andre Sweat, that big defensive tackle

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas, Vita Vea, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>He ain't No Vitavea, Vidaves pretty special alert.

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<v Speaker 1>And Vitaveo went on like, what twelfth in the draft?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe earlier?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh thirty seven Jatavian Sanders, the tight end out of Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>How did Texas have a better passing game last year?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Really you got three top forty picks catching the

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<v Speaker 2>ball and the top top running back. Yeah okay yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pro comm David and Joku. Does that mean he

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<v Speaker 1>drops a lot of passes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Joku's I think smoother. That's not a bad one.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh thirty eight Chop Robinson, the defensive end out of

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<v Speaker 1>Penn State. I think he's like in the dock Way,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Sweat.

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<v Speaker 2>Similar The dockway doesn't sound as good right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't get this one doesn't make sense to

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<v Speaker 1>me at all. The Vontees Walker, the wide receiver out

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<v Speaker 1>of North Carolina. Who would you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think, big, fast downfield, kind of a small forward body type,

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<v Speaker 2>bad hands. I'm really bad at colms. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you know this about me. I hate doing comms,

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<v Speaker 2>but I like to criticize other people.

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<v Speaker 1>The comp here is Tyler Boyd. Oh No, Tyler Boyd

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<v Speaker 1>ran like a four to six five.

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<v Speaker 2>They wouldn't even be close in a race. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want him operating out the slot and looking safeties

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<v Speaker 2>and doing the dirty work. He's on to move the

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<v Speaker 2>chain slower, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Tyler boy is a football player first, Yeah, yah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that that's a good comp at all.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I wouldn't want Boyd doing his stuff, and I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't want him doing Boyd stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not at all. Uh. Forty Nate Wiggins, the cornerback

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<v Speaker 1>at a Clemson corners are pretty tough for Yeah. The

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<v Speaker 1>pro compas Cam Taylor britt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, long, athletic, kind of straight lineish.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty one Graham Barton, the offensive lineman at a Duke.

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<v Speaker 1>The comp is Peter Skeronsky.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think Barton will be a center and Scaranski's

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<v Speaker 2>a guard. They're both versatile and really good on film.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad college. I mean not great college program smart.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty two Tyler Nuban, the safety out of Minnesota. The

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<v Speaker 1>comp is Justin Simmons Snowban that big. Simmons is like

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<v Speaker 1>six to three six two, is he?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>But Simmons is more of a free though more strong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, they're both pretty versatile.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty three Jordan Morgan, the offensive tackle whatever Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have a camp for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Compass Dean Dawkins.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, I mean he's a thicker bodied, might be

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<v Speaker 2>a guard, might be a guard, might be a guard. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty four Adsa Isaac, the defensive end at Penn State.

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<v Speaker 1>And the compass boy A Mafey.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good one. Yeah. It might be more athletic.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he might be a better tester than Mafey.

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<v Speaker 2>In a couple of weeks, it was a pretty good testing.

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<v Speaker 2>He was good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Forty five Junior Colson, the linebacker out of Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>who we got in our mock draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have him yesterday?

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<v Speaker 1>Much later than this, I might add, And the pro

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<v Speaker 1>compa is Nick Bolton.

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<v Speaker 2>Bolton's shorter, squattier, but they're both leaders. Yeah, get everyone

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<v Speaker 2>aligned We've talked to us a little this week. The Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's four off the ball linebackers, but Bolton still never

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<v Speaker 2>leaves the field. I mean he's a very very important

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<v Speaker 2>part of their He's the dude. Yeah, he's the dude. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty Yeah. Zach Fraser, the center out of West Virginia, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Pro former wrestler.

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<v Speaker 1>I would pick Tyler Linderbaum.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was a great wrestler. Yeah, yeah, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>like that. He's bigger than Leonderbaum, bigger than Bomb, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty seven Patrick Paul the offensive tackle out of Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>Armind Gilliam, Carl Malone, Morgan, Moses. Oh, he's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more athletic than Moses, though Moses is tough.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he's not light on his feet, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty eight Malachai Corley, the wide receiver out of Western Contempo.

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<v Speaker 2>Is gonna be the one everyone says, but that's a

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<v Speaker 2>little rich.

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<v Speaker 1>A Monross Saint Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>Some Brown's better than all of them, probably, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. He's that kind of route runner. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 2>love the physicality, physical aspect, yeah, and kind of their

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<v Speaker 2>build and hard to tackle and fight for every yard.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean from mon Ross.

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Brown reminds me of heinz Ward a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just such a great route runner. Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Forty nine Braylan Srice, the defensive end out of Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>The pro comp is Arnold.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah okay, yeah, I mean that's mckenny's book's not really

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<v Speaker 2>written yet, but that's kind of prospect. He was coming

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<v Speaker 2>out of Penn State.

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<v Speaker 1>And then fifty is Peyton Wilson, the linebacker out of

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina State, and the comp is Layton vander Esh injuries.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah there. I don't think Vandersh has long arms either.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a little stiffness there, but good football players. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean he was a first round pick too, right and Vandersh,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah he was. That was the throw Evans here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't envy comps. I think that's really hard to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just throw some names out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I like the way the Walman does it that

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned, like, he plays this style and if it

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<v Speaker 2>goes bad, he's gonna end up like this guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>a miss and if it goes well, but it also

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<v Speaker 2>shows that style. You know that prototype sometimes has a

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<v Speaker 2>harder time hitting than others. You know, when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Jade and Daniels. A better passing Lamar Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Patriots to be pretty happy at three with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar can throw the ball pretty well, folks. No one

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<v Speaker 2>seems to get that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. But he's coming into the league with the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who's a mix between Patrick Mahomes and Russell Wilson's too,

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<v Speaker 1>and a shorter Josh Allen. So this is a great

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback draft apparently.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You think all those guys gonna be historic? Wow? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Mahomes reigned at the top. Isn't for long, No, And

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to knock him off this class.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, We're gonna get to another break. He is the

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the drive

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<v Speaker 1>here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more

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<v Speaker 1>right after this. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lollly. He is

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<v Speaker 1>the Matt Williamson. And as we've done every day this week, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>let's take a look at a position potentially of need

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<v Speaker 1>for the Steelers and the potential free agents that are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be hitting the market here at that at

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<v Speaker 1>that position, and today we're going to take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at the safety market.

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<v Speaker 2>This is usually a pretty keen friendly position that you

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<v Speaker 2>can shop at, and I think it's there's a real

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<v Speaker 2>good chance of Steelers add one of these names we mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, uh, she got And again I'm looking at these

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<v Speaker 1>on spot track in terms of snap counts last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So number one on there is Cameron Curl from Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>People don't know who he is, I bet, but they

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<v Speaker 2>franchised him last year. He's one of the only bright

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<v Speaker 2>spots on a horrendous defense and a horrendous secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>Problem is they franchised.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a expensive right, Like you might be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds good, it'd be good next to Maka, and

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<v Speaker 2>like he's gonna be ten million, twelve million. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be a lot, not gonna be cheap.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Whitehead from the Jets. He played one thousand, thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty nine snaps, ninety seven tackles, and four interceptions

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<v Speaker 1>last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's got a lot of slot capabilities. He's

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<v Speaker 2>not huge, but he's reliable. Pit defensive backs do well

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<v Speaker 2>on it ros.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they played they played so much man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think they're well coached. They play a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of man i'd consider it. I don't know if he's

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<v Speaker 2>from around here or not. I don't care, but I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that would add up.

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<v Speaker 1>The interesting thing about this is they usually they'll put

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<v Speaker 1>them market value on guys they think are going to

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<v Speaker 1>get big contracts. They don't have a market value on

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Whitehead.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I mean she could get him. It's a little

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<v Speaker 2>more than you're paying KZ or whatever. I'd be real

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<v Speaker 2>into that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Xavier McKinney from the Giants, he's only twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was a really early second round pick out

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<v Speaker 2>of Bama too. More strong his market value. You told

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<v Speaker 2>me this one off the air, and I was blown away.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten point four million.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot for a safety.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see a team with a lot of caps

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<v Speaker 2>face doing it though, because of his age and he

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<v Speaker 2>keeps getting better, it'd be a great addition. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to spend, A.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot to spend.

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<v Speaker 2>How much you're giving makeup.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Duggar, I love him.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's Gonnat franchise too, which is sort of surprising.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they get the money to spend they do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they don't want to mess with the defense.

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<v Speaker 2>They wouldn't be the offense to be all new, but

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want to mess with the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't expect he's going anywhere now. Yeah, Antoine Winfield

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<v Speaker 1>is the first true free safety we got on here,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's not going anywhere. And his market value is

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<v Speaker 1>like eighteen million.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, he's gonna be one the high paid defensive

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<v Speaker 2>backs in the league. And he does it all and

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<v Speaker 2>he's a great player, but he ain't going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Fuller with the Rams.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, I get the fullers mixed up. There's a Fuller

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<v Speaker 2>from the corner. There are two fullers, both are up

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<v Speaker 2>for free agency this year, and this is the strong safety.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll turn twenty six here in another month or so.

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<v Speaker 1>But he had ninety three tackles, three interceptions, three forced

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<v Speaker 1>fumbles last year.

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<v Speaker 2>And say I think he'd be an upgrade. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you look at you. Yeah. Is he six million?

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have a market value on him either. He

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<v Speaker 1>made He's coming off a season he made eight sixty

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<v Speaker 1>six last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's the end of his rookie deal.

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<v Speaker 1>And his rookie deal.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not a superright pick. But maybe he's less than

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<v Speaker 2>six million. Maybe he's a two year, nine million die

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>He got Julian Blackman from the Colts. He's still just

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five years old. Four interceptions last year. Good football player.

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<v Speaker 2>More free than strong, but I think he can do

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<v Speaker 2>figure that out. Yeah, he can figure that out. Did

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<v Speaker 2>they have a marked value on him?

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<v Speaker 1>They do not.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, he's another one that's pretty interesting. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>get one of those dudes at a nice price.

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<v Speaker 1>Geno Stone, he's from around here, right, he's from Newcastle.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe he had a bunch of picks, seven interceptions

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<v Speaker 1>last year. Doesn't tackle real well.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean he's their third safety.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish him the best if he's a Pittsburgh guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's just the pro too. That's just the style

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<v Speaker 2>of free agents gets overpaid. Yeah, you know, coming off

0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:25.000
<v Speaker 2>of first contract, big year, a lot of interceptions, some

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<v Speaker 2>of them could be fluky. I mean, really good defense,

0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:29.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, but he's the third best safety on the team.

0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Alloy Gilman more of a free. He did have a

0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:37.800
<v Speaker 1>couple of picks last year for the Chargers, but their

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<v Speaker 1>defense was off off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean Durwin's a strong, He's more of the

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<v Speaker 2>free but has some versatility. He'll be a starter somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Elliott not bad. Yeah, he's still just twenty six.

0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:51.560
<v Speaker 1>He'll turn twenty seven this offseason.

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<v Speaker 2>He's fine, serviceable. Yeah, yeah, these guys won't cost much

0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:58.359
<v Speaker 2>in this neighborhood.

0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Jay Ron Curse is gonna be thirty here. I probably

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to go that route.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not. They're too old on defense.

0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Michael Hydees thirty three. You're not going to go that route.

0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Cavon Wallace, he has a little bit of a corner background.

0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I remember Bama.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't know a ton about how he's been used.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be shocked if.

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<v Speaker 1>He played him. They played him in safety last year

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<v Speaker 1>with the Titans. Yeah, still just twenty six, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe he's more of a third safety. In a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect world, M'd me play some nickel. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's an interesting name. I'd like to do a

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<v Speaker 2>little more homework on him.

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Owens, who was with the Packers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know a ton about him either.

0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just looking here. Uh, Ryan Neil Now, Darnell

0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Savage is a name that people are going to bring up.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, and I think we both liked him a

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<v Speaker 2>lot coming out of school. Yeah, yeah, and tested great.

0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:53.600
<v Speaker 2>They're down on him though.

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't.

0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Something was missing on that defense and they Packer fan

0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:03.120
<v Speaker 2>will blame Joe Berry, the defensive coordinator, heavily and he's

0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:09.160
<v Speaker 2>been let go, But Savage regressed Jarry Alexander apparently once out.

0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:12.240
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of secondary upheaval. A lot of guys

0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 2>are free agents in that secondary. I think you mentioned

0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Owen's isn't here from there, and Nicks the returner is

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:22.280
<v Speaker 2>also up. I don't know what's going on there. Yeah,

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:24.560
<v Speaker 2>but maybe Savage you get on a one year to

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<v Speaker 2>prove it deal and hope he's not much of a tackler. Yeah,

0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:30.720
<v Speaker 2>that's it's you know, but he can fly around and

0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:36.120
<v Speaker 2>he's versatile. John Johnson still twenty eight, Still twenty eight. Yeah,

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:39.320
<v Speaker 2>it seems like every year ever. Yeah, he signs a

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.399
<v Speaker 2>big contract with the Browns and then he goes back

0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:45.520
<v Speaker 2>to the Rams. Yeah. I don't love twenty eight. Yeah,

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 2>but he's been I would have guess he's older than that.

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:50.520
<v Speaker 1>This is one that that I've already seen thrown out there.

0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 1>The Steelers need to bring back Terrell Edmands.

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<v Speaker 2>He could be my third Yeah, I don't want as

0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:58.639
<v Speaker 2>a starter. I mean, not that he's terrible, he just

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 2>doesn't make enough plays and kind of anything eater.

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:02.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, he had a big interception last year for

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the Titans.

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:06.760
<v Speaker 2>In that game. Yeah, the Steelers needed them to win

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 2>that one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's re elevants. Came up with the big the big pick.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if it's week twelve and there's injuries or

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:13.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, like there were his past year, I'd rather

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 2>have Edmunds out there than Yella brew. Yeah, you know,

0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 2>but I don't want to go into season with Edmunds

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 2>and Fitzpatrick only.

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Taylor rap mm hmm.

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:28.800
<v Speaker 2>More more strong. I think he has a lot of penalties.

0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 1>He was looking for more strong. Yeah, yeah, free and.

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:35.359
<v Speaker 2>He'll hit you. I bet she. I was he twenty seven?

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:36.360
<v Speaker 1>He's twenty six.

0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was a pretty high pick, right, Wasn't he

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:39.360
<v Speaker 2>a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Round somewhere in that range? Yeah? Yeah, let's see here,

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:46.400
<v Speaker 1>anybody else Jeremy Chin.

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 2>That one's interesting because there's more going on there because

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 2>the old coordinator before this year loved them, and Chin

0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 2>looked like a foundational player, early second round pick, great tester, size, speed, dude,

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:03.360
<v Speaker 2>almost he was supposed to be dug or light. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:06.119
<v Speaker 2>it was the same draft class, both small school guys,

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 2>and he didn't His knap counts are down right. I

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 2>mean he kind of got benched this year.

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 1>He played two hundred and sixty four snaps last year,

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 1>but he had twenty eight tackles.

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:20.399
<v Speaker 2>See like him and Savage, you know, if you can

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:22.640
<v Speaker 2>get them cheap and they're kind of at a weird

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 2>spot in their career.

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's kind of It's kind of what the Steelers

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 1>did with Killer Brew was a second round pick for

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the line.

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:31.480
<v Speaker 1>People forget that he was like, he was a highly

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 1>touted guy out and so you take a chance on

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 1>that guy. At worst, he's a good a solid special

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 1>teams player.

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 2>For you, Yeah, exactly. And I don't know what's like.

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't foresee Savage being a special team or maybe

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 2>Chin realizes that's his only route to stay in the league.

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. The change of scenery for a super

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 2>talented guy station is worth the risk for me?

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for a guy that was, you know, highly thought

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<v Speaker 1>of at one point not that long ago.

0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, unless there's something they're missing. Did he play

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 2>all year with a knee that I don't know about? Yeah.

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>This is another guy that's liked him coming out of

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the draft a few years ago, Ashton Davis with the Jets.

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>M Yeah, as a COLU. Yeah, he had three interceptions

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:16.919
<v Speaker 1>last year one hundred and sixty nine defensives.

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I liked him with a lot coming out. Yeah, I

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 2>would think he's not super expensive. He was a rangy

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.719
<v Speaker 2>free safety type. But it's not like he can't come

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:28.800
<v Speaker 2>near to the line of scrimmage either. You know, it's

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:31.640
<v Speaker 2>not bad. I might take two of these and hope

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:33.160
<v Speaker 2>one hits you know what I mean, It's.

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Not the worst that you could do. Uh, Chauncey Gardner

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Johnson is going to be available. I don't want to

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 1>touch him. Everybody everybody hates him.

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:43.959
<v Speaker 2>Everybody hates him, his teammates and he used to fight

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Michael Thomas in practice.

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:47.400
<v Speaker 1>But he's talented.

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 2>He's talented. He might have a screw loose, He's can

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 2>play this loot.

0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:54.359
<v Speaker 1>He made six point five though last year with Detroit.

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:56.240
<v Speaker 1>I doubt I doubt he's going to take lesson and

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:57.199
<v Speaker 1>he was hurt a lot.

0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 2>He was hurt a lot, and that's part of the issue. Yeah,

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:06.679
<v Speaker 2>you'd have to know his his psychology and his personality.

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Might need his own psychologists. Yeah, because everybody.

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, some of those guys are Matthew Barnaby that you

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 2>know that if he's on your team, you love him

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 2>as a pesky third line wing guy on in hockey,

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 2>but you don't want to play against him because he's

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 2>nasty as could be. Or he might just have a

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:26.640
<v Speaker 2>screw loose and wants to fight everybody in the world

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 2>and you don't want to be around him, you know,

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 2>So I would imagine they would know that answer.

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:35.360
<v Speaker 1>But he can play, Yeah, he can play. Who else

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>is on here that interests me? Look, obviously kill a

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Brew is on there. Yeah, we'll see what I mean.

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 1>He's a special team. He's a great if you can

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 1>bring him back to the special team, and that's great.

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 2>They usually have two or three. They're making money at

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 2>that position, right special.

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:51.439
<v Speaker 1>Rest of these guys really didn't play a whole lot.

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>So that's what she was kind of looking at there.

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 1>But there's a bunch of names on there that I'd

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>be interested in.

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, none of them are crazy expensive. You know, you're

0:27:57.880 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 2>not gonna get Winfield, You're not gonna get Curl, you know.

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but that's not a bad place to shop

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 2>to find a starter you can more than live with. Yeah.

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 1>If you just look at these as strictly as the

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 1>guys listed as strong, I mean, it's it. That's where

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>the strength of this is. Because you can find those guys. Yeah.

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're not rare and they don't get paid a ton. Yeah,

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 2>but you need you need them, You need them. The

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:22.359
<v Speaker 2>middle of the field will be helpful. They could have

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 2>used that guy this year.

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you'd like them to to take the ball

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 1>away a little bit as well.

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, an ideal world sign one of these dudes

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 2>draft on the fourth round. I don't know if you

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:34.880
<v Speaker 2>have enough draft picks to go around to pull that off,

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>but you might buy draft time. Yeah.

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that's, you know, kind of what they were

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>trying to do with with KZ and Neil this year.

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Most of the time Neil played early in the season,

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 1>he started a strong safety yeah yeah, and they played

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>KZ at free when they wanted to bump Fitzpatrick down

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>to do some other stuff.

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think you want to get a guy that

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 2>will free up Fitzpatrick to do other things. Yeah. Yeah.

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>With that QUI so you do need another free there.

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 2>You also don't want to get super old there. If

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 2>it's Killer Brew, a twenty seven year old a Menka

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 2>and you're only keeping four, it's like you know where

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 2>it would.

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Because Killer Brew is going to be thirty one this offseason.

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I would imagine he's a one year deal if you

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.719
<v Speaker 2>bring him back. Yeah, yeah, and you don't really want

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 2>him playing defense.

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>That's the idea. Yeah, I mean you probably, I mean,

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 1>live with it. They kept five this year.

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:24.479
<v Speaker 2>They didn't keep five this year?

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, so is Row one of those guys?

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 2>It's that's in that mix, is going to be a

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Steeler next year, at least to what I saw.

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I got no problem with that. Now again, year old,

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>then you need to draft one, I know, or get

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>one of these younger players.

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Or your first round pick next year is safety and

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 2>just be old there for a year.

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know if I'm I don't.

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 2>Love that either. It's it's kind of the whole defensive dilemma.

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, so if I can go get a

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Julian Blackman at twenty five, who can that's a nice

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>one who can play either fore or strong with Row

0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah and Killer Brew, Yeah, I think that's a better

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 1>way to approach it.

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean needs a side. I don't think you ever

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 2>turned your nose up at a second through fifth round

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 2>safety either. Yeah, especially they have slot capabilities or you know,

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 2>if you don't, if your slot corner is not set,

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, we don't know who that is going to

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 2>be right now. Yeah, me be an interesting puzzle because

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to be a bunch of twenty six

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight.

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean in an ideal where DoD you just go

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>out and sign Jordan Whitehead. Yeah, but you're not gonna

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>be able to afford that.

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 2>What do you think he makes? I didn't think he

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 2>would be crazy expensive.

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't five or six played one thousand snaps last

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 1>year and he had four interceptions. They don't have a

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>market value on here. But he's probably going to be

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I doubt he's ten. He's not going to be ten,

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>but probably over five.

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to you know, Minkus not cheap?

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 2>No, he's not, he's not. It's a good question.

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>But he's a twenty six year old. Don't soon to

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>be twenty seven year old. I mean no, if you're

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>going to attack it, if you're going to attack it,

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>and spend the money on a guy and then go

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 1>added a late later round draft pick. I would get

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>that because the late round draft pick is probably gonna

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>play a lot of special teams for you. And Okay,

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 1>but you know idea in an ideal world, I mean,

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 1>you want to be able to use Minca in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different ways, so you really need two other

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<v Speaker 1>guys there to make that happen. If one's row or

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<v Speaker 1>is this a situation that you'd like to just take

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<v Speaker 1>Menca and say you're the free safety and his career.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably it would probably extend his career.

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<v Speaker 2>It probably keeps him on the field more. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the worst idea, but it's sure nice yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>A good nickel would be the yeah, would be the

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<v Speaker 1>other option for that.

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<v Speaker 2>And signing nickel corners isn't hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you get a strong safety that can do some

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>of those tight end coverages that you've been using Fitzpatrick

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<v Speaker 1>to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's in the cards no matter what. Yeah,

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean most safeties now, especially entering the league, have

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 2>slot capabilities that those lines are getting blurred really quick.

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Slot corners people don't want the Hiltons.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so maybe maybe you do go get a guy

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>that you know, a chin that can to me too.

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>He might be a dime linebacker too, right, you know,

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe that you can do some different then to dig

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>into those things, you know, why was he not on

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 1>the field as much as you thought? They're more than

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, because honestly, I don't want to have to

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>use making Fitzpatrick that way. I know he can do it,

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>but he got hurt a lot this year.

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it wouldn't break my heart if he played Deep

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Metal of the rest of his career. Well, yeah, he

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 2>was the best guy and EDREI did, and Earl Thomas.

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>It up and have that career like yeah, sure, yeah,

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm signing.

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Up for that, So yeah, it's not bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Dale Lelly. We get a little breaking news with

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0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>numerous reports out there, we've been on the air, so

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of yes that the this According to Jerry Dulux,

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Steelers have hired former New York Jets assistant Zach Azani

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>is their wide receivers coach and former Chargers assistant Tom

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Arth as the quarterback coach. He was the past Arth

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<v Speaker 1>was the past game specialist, uh for the Chargers, but

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 1>he's not going to assume that role for with the Steelers.

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 1>They're still trying to figure out some kind of arrangement

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<v Speaker 1>with Mike Sullivan as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so none of it's quite official yet, but that's

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 2>what seems like it's in the works. Assistant coaches almost

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 2>impossible to call me. Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean,

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be like, well, the Chargers fired

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 2>their guy, so this guy doesn't have any clue what

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 2>he's doing. I mean, he might have helped Justin Herbert tremendously.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea. I don't know the answer to it.

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm also not going to credit the wide receiver coach

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 2>for making Garrett Wilson really good. He probably would have

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 2>been good with me as a receiver coach or you

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 2>or anybody else who the heck knows. I kind of

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 2>like that Sullivan sounds likely to be back, you know

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of what you had last year relationship

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 2>with Pickett. Yeah, and I like that they went outside

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 2>the organization from three different organizations. You know, let's get

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 2>some new ideas, let's get some fresh blood and see

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:30.839
<v Speaker 2>how it goes. I mean again, it's just hard to comment.

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>On yeah, I mean until I get to see them

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<v Speaker 1>actually on the field, working and talking to guys about them.

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, people in the.

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Organization like, boy, he's really bright, or yeah it's atletally new,

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>or you know, right, give me seeing how they run

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 1>their practices and things of that nature. I can't.

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:45.959
<v Speaker 2>I mean, who knows, who knows? I mean, just reading

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 2>a resume, it's hard to say. I looked up Arth

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 2>at the break real quick. John Carroll guy, I mean,

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.919
<v Speaker 2>was with the micron zips there for two years. Cool.

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know, is he from this area

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>of the country. I don't know. I assume If I assume.

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Somewhere those spots western Pennsylvania, eastern Ohio.

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:06.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but who the heck knows. Hopefully it works out.

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 2>But I like how they've conducted their offensive search and

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't just bump people up, and you know, they went

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 2>outside the organization.

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, you just don't You just don't know.

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, and people will complain about it regardless,

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 1>that's just what happens.

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 2>How could you get someone from the Jets, they were

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:24.919
<v Speaker 2>one of the worst offenses in the league. How could

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 2>get someone from the Chargers? They had Herbert? You know,

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I will say this idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Arth spent three seasons with the Colts in the Peyton

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Manning era?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh did he?

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 1>So you get a little Tom Moore there, you get

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:37.800
<v Speaker 1>a little Peyton Manning.

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, there's some good influences there to learn from. Okay, interesting. So,

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 2>so he's been doing this for a while. He's not

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<v Speaker 2>just the twenty nine year old up and comer then.

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Two thousand and three through two thousand and five. Actually

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>he's the Saint Gacious guy from Cleveland.

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Cleveland. Okay, we used to recruit ignacious heavy that's a

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:55.399
<v Speaker 2>football factory. Yeah, Okay, so he's not so far away.

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I gets it. I like that part.

0:35:57.320 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I had to laugh again. I was actually I was

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 1>reading through some stuff today and I saw somebody questioned

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 1>this whole idea that Cliff Kingsbury is somehow a bright,

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:10.800
<v Speaker 1>young offensive mind.

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:13.240
<v Speaker 2>You must have listened to my podcast and Arthur Smith

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:17.320
<v Speaker 2>is not right now, Kingsbury might be a swell fellaw.

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 2>But I went back and did homework before my podcast

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 2>today just to kind of look at his background. Think

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 2>about this for a second. His first year as a

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:32.880
<v Speaker 2>head coach, he had Baker Mayfield, who went on to

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<v Speaker 2>be the first pick in the draft, not because of

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 2>what he did with Kingsbury left the organization, became the

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<v Speaker 2>first pick in the draft. A year went by after

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:45.919
<v Speaker 2>the Mayfield season, and he had my homes for two years,

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:50.319
<v Speaker 2>didn't win with him, who went on to be maybe

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 2>the best quarterback that's ever left.

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 1>I think he lost as many games in his two

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 1>seasons with Kingsbury as he lost in his first six seasons.

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 2>It's about saying right exactly with Andy Reid. So then

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 2>he gets hired as the Cardinals head coach, convinces them

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 2>to give up on Josh Rosen, which I'm not going

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:10.719
<v Speaker 2>to hold again some Rosen didn't do anything anywhere else.

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 2>But he was the eighth pick in the draft the

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 2>year before, so he could have yet another first overall pick. Yeah,

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Kyler Murray consistently lost with Kyler goes to USC with

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 2>who's about to be the first overall pick and that

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:28.760
<v Speaker 2>guy has his worst year in college.

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 2>So he's worked with Mahomes probably the in my opinion,

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 2>the best quarterback that's ever lived and the best one

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 2>on the planet right now, and three inevitable or first

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 2>overall pick quarterbacks and didn't win anything.

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Italy squat with any of them. That occurs to me.

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 1>He's considered a bright young up in con Yes, he's

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<v Speaker 1>forty four. I've just been forty one.

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I say he's been doing this a

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 2>long time too. I mean he can't be Yeah, I

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 2>didn't know he's forty four, But Arthur Smith looks older.

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 1>He loves a bigger guy as a.

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Former lineman, you know, So I think there's a misconception there.

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 2>But perception is so weird with these assistant coaches.

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 1>It just drives me nuts every time I see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Why didn't the Steelers go hire a hot young assistant

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>like Cliff Kingsbury.

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 2>If you're right, right, I mean they act like this

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:24.879
<v Speaker 2>as a sixty five year old curmudgeon. You know that's

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:25.800
<v Speaker 2>smoking his cigar.

0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, he's just hire Tom Moore, who's in his

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:32.399
<v Speaker 1>nineties right and is a great guy.

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 2>But you know, Smith may or may not work out.

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 2>But three seasons ago, he was the definition of the

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:42.800
<v Speaker 2>hot young coordinator. Yes, that's exactly what he was exactly

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 2>three years ago. I was three years ago, three whole years. Yeah,

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and he probably learns things didn't go great

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 2>and Atlanta as a head coach, but I'm sure he

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 2>learned some things, you would think. And yeah, one of

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 2>the knocks on Smith, but I think is warranted. As

0:38:56.920 --> 0:39:00.880
<v Speaker 2>as the head coach in Atlanta, he had some any ideas,

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 2>but he didn't when Rabel was in charge of him. Right,

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he will with Tomlin in charge of him.

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>There's a governor that there's now a governor. Screw on

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 1>everything that he does.

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.840
<v Speaker 2>We know who's in charge of the organization, and everything's

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:15.439
<v Speaker 2>gonna get run by Rabel. And that's when they did great.

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 2>Everyone's gonna run by Tomlin. Okay, we've seen the show.

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean he can't draw plays and have an

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:24.799
<v Speaker 1>offense that can work because he.

0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't get the ball to his best guys. Do you

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 2>say much touches Derrick Henry and AJ Brown, those guys

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:32.880
<v Speaker 2>got I mean, and I think I told you this,

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 2>but Drake London had the third highest target share of

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 2>any receiver in the league this year. The target chair they.

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Said, throw the ball time right, That doesn't mean they

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 1>won't do it next day. They still got the ball

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>to their best guys. They went, they fineled the offense

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 1>through their best guys. And oh, by the way, again,

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.680
<v Speaker 1>when you're complaining about Tyler algayear Tyler als year was

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>a running back coming off a thousand yard season. He's

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 1>not bad under Arthur Smith. Yeah, nobody had heard of

0:39:56.719 --> 0:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Tyler out year, and they do a lot of creative stuff.

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>People look like a very static, boring offense.

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 2>No it isn't. You'll be very shocked with what it

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 2>looks like.

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:06.719
<v Speaker 1>It's a hell of a lot more unstatic than Cliff

0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Kingsbury's offense.

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 2>And I no offense to you listeners. How much Falcons

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:14.440
<v Speaker 2>tape did you guys watch last year? I mean, come on,

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 2>did you really watch all that much Falcons tape? Were

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 2>they on primetime a lot?

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Were they in the playoffs?

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Did you watch a lot of breakdown a lot of

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:26.719
<v Speaker 2>offensive Falcons tape? I bet you didn't, just saying maybe

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 2>a couple while you did. But they do some stuff.

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>They do some stuff. But yeah, that's every time I

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:34.319
<v Speaker 1>see that when somebody talks about a hot, young up

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 1>and coming coach like Cliff Kingsbury, who's older than Arthur Smith,

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:42.319
<v Speaker 1>noticeably noticeably he just looks younger, and well he had

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 1>a cool pad in Phoenix City, you know, but.

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 2>He sounds like an interesting fellow. I mean, I'm wishing

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 2>him the best. I just his resume doesn't do him

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 2>a lot of favors. It really doesn't get three first

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 2>overall quarterbacks and Pat Mahomes. It hasn't want anything.

0:40:55.360 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it works out for him in Washington, it's all great.

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but this all stem I got asked. I mean,

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 2>would you be concerned if you're a Commander's fan and

0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 2>they take a quarterback second overall? Yes, I'd be concerned.

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, just laid it out. Yeah, here for this guy

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 1>is not good.

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 2>I hope it works out. They turned Drake May into

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:20.840
<v Speaker 2>the superstar. But yes I would be concerned.

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, the whole offensive, the whole assistant coach thing.

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:27.840
<v Speaker 1>And I don't care who it is.

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Nobody knows. Nobody knows. You know. When I was with

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 2>the team, I would know I had a very strong

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 2>opinion who our good coaches were and who weren't. But

0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 2>if I wasn't in those walls every day, I'd have

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 2>no clue. Yeah, I have no clue.

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's there's the product that's put on the field,

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 1>But to your point, the product is only so good

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Speaker 1>as you know. It's like making a meal. Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 1>I've got if I just went out and spent eighty

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<v Speaker 1>dollars or one hundred dollars on groceries, I can be

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good meal.

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<v Speaker 2>I could make a great meal.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm it's the last day before I go get

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<v Speaker 1>groceries and I'm just digging around in the cupboards to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what I'm gonna make sure, it's probably not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be as good a meal.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you can make it acceptable and I can

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<v Speaker 2>live with my safeties or quarterbacks with what you have

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<v Speaker 2>in the cupboard left over, that's good coaching. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>terrible cook. I'd spend one hundred bucks of China Eagle

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd come home and he'd be like, this meal

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<v Speaker 2>is acceptable, but it could be so much better. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're right, you know, you know, you work with

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<v Speaker 1>what you got, but sometimes you have more to work

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<v Speaker 1>with and that makes a huge difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if the other thing about assistant coaches, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is really important, they have bosses, and those

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<v Speaker 2>bosses tell them how to handle their specific position too,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like all I want to my running back

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<v Speaker 2>not to fumble or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like that was one of the problems with

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<v Speaker 1>Bijeon last year that Algiers Algira doesn't fumble.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's a little more reliable to And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think Bijeon had four. So you know, I get that.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen it in the past where you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>running a running back of fumble and okay, you're out

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<v Speaker 1>for like an X three series.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know, go think about what you did. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>go get put the dun or whatever. Right. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned this stat too with them is Kyle Pitts

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<v Speaker 2>alarmingly had the most uncatchable throws his way. Yeah, times

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<v Speaker 2>a thousand of any tight end in the league. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like the next worst or like seventy four percent of

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<v Speaker 2>their passes were deemed catchable. His was like sixty three percent.

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<v Speaker 1>And that goes back to last year too, or two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. I should say we both had him on

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<v Speaker 1>our fantasy teams.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the most frustrating game watching Marcus.

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<v Speaker 1>Mariota overthrow the six foot six tight end by eight

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<v Speaker 1>feet and he was not fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And his average up part is really high. He's almost

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<v Speaker 2>more of a receiver, but he's out there waving his

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<v Speaker 2>arms and they rode in the stands. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna blame Arthur Smith or Pitts for that when

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<v Speaker 2>he was open moves open. Yeah, Mariota was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of unaccurate, inaccurate quarterback as you'll find. And Ridder wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>much better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, No, that's what he had to work with again,

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<v Speaker 1>the materials that you had to work with. When he

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<v Speaker 1>got Bryan Tannehill got a lot out of them, who

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<v Speaker 1>was kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of you know, he was going to bustle.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a leftover. Yeah, Yeah, he made leftovers and

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<v Speaker 1>he turned the leftovers into something pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, went the SC Championship game take that. Yeah, no, no, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it'll be a success or not,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do think the perception of him is way off. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just maybe it is because he's a bigger dude and.

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<v Speaker 2>He had that to him and the way he's handled

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<v Speaker 2>the media here and there too, and you know, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to design offensive couple it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's forty one, he's not sixty one.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna run the ball and run, run, throw, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're gonna run the foot, They're gonna run ball

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<v Speaker 1>an offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you're gonna see big people on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna run the football. They're gonna do play action

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. I mean that's stuff I can promise you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we haven't really looked yet at the quarterback market.

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<v Speaker 2>Jub Yeah, do it tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>We will do that tomorrow. Okay, as we break walls.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some sort of interesting names, and even in that market,

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<v Speaker 2>there's trades more so than you know, could you get

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel Jones. I'm just throwing on names, you know, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that's what I would do. But people

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<v Speaker 2>can be had if you fall in love with someone. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll talk more about that tomorrow. But Matt, that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to do it for our show today, so already tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll also talk a lot of super Bowl. Yeah, make

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<v Speaker 1>the DFS lineup, Picky, We're going to do Captain's Year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably the best way to probably the best way

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<v Speaker 1>to do a super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a lot of different options in this super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'm up for whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look at it. Anyways, that's going to do it

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<v Speaker 1>first show today. So for my partner Matt Williamson, for

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Miller here on site keeping us on the air,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Dale Lellye. We thank you for listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.