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Speaker 1: Welcome back to our number two of the Drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. And uh well, we're not going

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Speaker 1: to get into our DFS lineup for the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: just yet. Tomorrow it'll be tomorrow. Tomorrow will be super

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Speaker 1: Bowl centric kind of show. Uh So, today I thought

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Speaker 1: we'd look at another updated big board as well. This

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Speaker 1: is when you said, I mean this is from the

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Speaker 1: Draft Scout.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's a pay site. It's uh I

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Speaker 2: think it's Matt Miller's site up up my head.

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Speaker 1: Okay. The thing that I like about this one, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like it and I don't like it. They give

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Speaker 1: you comps and all the players. Yeah, and nobody ever

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Speaker 1: Pickure Rough. Nobody ever says you know, he reminds me

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Speaker 1: of Tony Mandrich, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all these guys are going to be hit and yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of a blend of Christian McCaffrey and Jim Brown.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you should go higher than the thirty guy thirty

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Speaker 2: thigh in your board, don't you think. And of course

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Speaker 2: Mconkey's going to be welker, Yeah, I mean, can be

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Speaker 2: Steve Smith.

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Speaker 1: No, right, right, of course, right, Okay, So looking at

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Speaker 1: his top fifty, he's got Caleb Williams number one. Okay,

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Speaker 1: his pro comp is Patrick Mahomes meets Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: That's a good combination.

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Speaker 1: So what you're telling me is Caleb Williams is gonna win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The way they have between the two of them, eight

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Speaker 1: super Bowl appearances, you know, and I.

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Speaker 2: Get some comps or just style of play. This is

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Speaker 2: what they could become if everything hits. But they're always

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Speaker 2: a little rich, little rich. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: His number two players marvs Marvin Harrison Junior. The comp

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Speaker 1: is a J. Green.

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Speaker 2: I see that. I think he's more physical.

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Speaker 1: I think he's more physical than J Green ever was

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Speaker 1: he didn't camp him to his dad. No, he's big,

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Speaker 1: He's a lot bigger. He's not that much like his dad.

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Speaker 1: Uh Number three Drake may comp a shorter Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: I get Herbert a lot when I hear comps from him, good, mover, prototypical,

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Speaker 2: but still, I mean he's cut two inches off Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: He'll be pretty dark good good, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels at four, look at the comps, a better

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Speaker 1: passing Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: So he's gonna win two MVPs four years.

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Speaker 1: Uh five is Malik Neighbors. Okay, his comp is Brandan Ayuk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah kind of see that, you know, all right? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: rout runner physical.

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Speaker 1: UH six is a Duneesa from Washington. The comp is

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Speaker 1: a slower Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 2: I've heard Larry Fitzgerald, which is also pretty Yeah, they's

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Speaker 2: get testy catch guy.

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Speaker 1: Uh seven is Joe Alt. The comp is Joe Thomas.

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Speaker 2: He's a Hall of Famer. Yeah, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: UH eight is Forashanu, the offensive tackle out of Penn State.

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Speaker 1: The comp is Tron Armstead.

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Speaker 2: I like that camp. I mean again, these are rich.

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Speaker 2: I mean these are best case scenario. If you draft

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Speaker 2: him at eight and he turns into Tron armstead'retty pretty

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Speaker 2: happy about that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh nine is Dallas Turner, the defensive end out

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Speaker 1: of Alabama, and the comp is Josh Allen, the pass rusher.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's similar athletic Bendy.

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Speaker 1: Tennis Tron Arnold Terry and Arnold the cornerback out of Alabama.

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Speaker 1: The comp is Patrick certain the second who.

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Speaker 2: Might be the best corner to league might be I

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Speaker 2: think Arnold's a little more slot physical. Their styles the same.

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Speaker 1: Uh at eleven is Talasi fa Wagga, the offensive tackle

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Speaker 1: at Oregon State, and the comp is Lane Johnson.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't move like Lane Johnson. Lane Johnson round like

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Speaker 2: a four to seven like dightened to me. I've heard

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Speaker 2: Lane Johnson comparisons their tight ends turned right tackles in

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma that can really run.

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Speaker 1: Twelve is Brock Bowers, the title of Georgia and the

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Speaker 1: Pro compass Sam Laporta. They're different too, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Bowers is kind of a get open, quick, really good

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Speaker 2: after the catch too.

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Speaker 1: I might more Go and Kincaid Yeah, yeah, they're more

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Speaker 1: similar in size yeah and usage. Yeah. Thirteen is Jared Diversity,

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Speaker 1: the defensive end out of Florida State. The comp is

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Speaker 1: Matthew Judon power Players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that one.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen is Brian Thomas Junior, the wide receiver out of LSU.

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Speaker 1: That's as high as I think.

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Speaker 2: I said. That's pretty rich for him too.

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Speaker 1: The Pro comp a stable George Pickens. I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't get that now why you need the stability

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Speaker 2: part to add to it? But body control, length, downfield reception,

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Speaker 2: similar body types, basketball type of a build. I see

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Fifteen Byron Murphy, the second the defensive tackle of

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Speaker 1: Texas Pro Comp Aaron Donald's little brother.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a short Geno Atkins type. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen is lay to the defensive end at of UCLA,

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Speaker 1: and the pro comp is Jalen Phillips on and off

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Speaker 1: the field. I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 2: Well, they both retired because the injuries and then rejuvenated

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Speaker 2: themselves in the PAC ten and we're gonna be first

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Speaker 2: round picks.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen is Tyler Geiton the pro comp is Anton Harrison.

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Speaker 2: They're both Oklahoma guys, but I think it stops there.

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Speaker 1: I'd I'd rather have geiten.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, even then the draft version areas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't love Harrison.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen is Troy Fatanu, the guard from Washington, and the

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Speaker 1: pro comp is Brandon Shirf.

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Speaker 2: No, he was a tackle at Iowa that went to guard. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I was thanks Gronky's the low hanging fruit there.

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Speaker 1: But nineteen is Jerson Newton, the defensive tackle out of Illinois,

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Speaker 1: and the pro comp is Greedy Jarrett.

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Speaker 2: Also the short, short field in the stocky attacking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Twenty Cooper dejen the cornerback out of Iowa, and

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Speaker 1: the pro comp is luxurious snead but white. So some

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Speaker 1: people want to play him at safety.

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Speaker 2: It's just kind of funny. I thought he might be Seahorn,

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Speaker 1: Can see them.

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Speaker 2: See he's actually started some safety in his career too.

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Speaker 1: But the safety stuff to me with with Dejene isn't

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Speaker 1: just because he's white. Because of his size.

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Speaker 2: He's so physical and he's so big. I mean, Sneve's

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Speaker 2: a really good comfort him. The way I think about it,

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Speaker 2: I think the Jeane's actually more athletic. But Sneed started

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Speaker 2: fifth something like that. He didn't come in a league

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Speaker 2: like the Jeene safety slot special team or just got

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Speaker 2: better and better and better. And I follows Ones all

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Speaker 2: over the field.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Degene.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Twenty one j C. Latham, laugh them I should say

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Speaker 1: offensive kid Latham or.

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Speaker 2: Latham, I'd be calling him Latham.

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Speaker 1: Okay. The comp is Juan Taylor minus the flags.

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Speaker 2: Okay, better, better, better? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Twenty two are Marius Mims, the offensive tackle from Georgia

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Speaker 1: Pro comp Evan Neil pre draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Neil was kind of freaky. I think

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Speaker 2: Mims is more talented than Neil. Neil is always considered

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Speaker 2: very cerebral and more experienced. He scares me a little bit, mems, mims.

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Speaker 2: I want to learn more.

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Speaker 1: The more I study him like this, I would have

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Speaker 1: like to see him play more.

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Speaker 2: That's a concern. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Twenty three JJ McCarthy the pro comp is an athletic

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 2: Not to make this all about race, but why not

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Speaker 2: just pick an athletic fellow that has darker skin than

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because he is.

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Speaker 2: Much more athletic than Kirk Cousins. Yeah, that that's a

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Speaker 2: terrible call.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four in this Rekestraw, the cornerback out of Missouri

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Speaker 1: the Pro comp is Denzel Ward.

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Speaker 2: He's bigger, bigger than right, not the same body type.

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Speaker 2: Ward's a good player.

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Speaker 1: But twenty five Quinny and Mitchell. The cornerback out of

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Speaker 1: Toledo in the pro comp is Jalen Johnson.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. Yeah, I can live with that.

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Speaker 1: Twenty six is Bo Nicks and the pro comp is

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff.

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Speaker 2: Golf throws ball a lot better. Yeah, I mean Goff

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Speaker 2: throws a ball like a first overall pick. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: Nix is more efficient. I actually think Knicks has is

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Speaker 2: like Drew Brees, michelb Lighte. Yeah, michelob Baltra. I mean

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Speaker 2: I just said his style of play is more efficient.

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Speaker 2: Golf can sling it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven. Kean Coleman, the wide receiver at of Florida

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Speaker 1: State in the comp is Nico Collins.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Like, no one's gonna say Kelvin Benjamin No, but

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Speaker 2: he could be killing could Yeah. That's a cool thing

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Speaker 2: that Matt Waldman does is he does just skill position

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Speaker 2: players sort of for fantasy. But he'll say, best case scenario,

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Speaker 2: here's a spectrum he's on, right, Yeah, he's Yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: all a lot of like Devonte Parker, Like that's not great. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but not everyone hits.

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Speaker 1: Twenty eight Jackson powers Johnson in the Pro comp is Dawson.

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Speaker 1: Frank Ragnow that's going Yeah. I might note Frank Ragnow

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Speaker 1: in his draft, which was twenty eighteen, went with the

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Speaker 2: Hey did another big bruiser, bad dude, and might be

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Speaker 2: now that Kelree center, now that Kelsey's retired, he might

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Speaker 2: be number one. He might be number one. Health has

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Speaker 2: been a little concerned he plays for he plays. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's tough. That's a great.

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Speaker 1: Your name is Rag now you got to play through?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I always said they're Vikings, Rag Lothbrook whatever

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Speaker 2: his name was.

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Speaker 1: Twenty nine Darius Robinson the defensive Charles omenahey a manaho Omnaho.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, get yeah, more talented to mena who but big end.

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Speaker 2: That's also a tackle, you know, tough fit. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Thirty at Donnie Mitchell, someone fast, t Higgins.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I always get the two Texas guys worthyes, reumer.

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Speaker 1: Donny Mitchell's sixty or tall, skinny yeah yeah, two hundred pounder.

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Speaker 2: No, that's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Thirty one is Xavier Worthy. He's the skinny one, tall, skinny,

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Speaker 1: he's like six too. Yeah yeah. His his comp is

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Speaker 1: a full sized this Shawn Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well he's that kind of speed. He has

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Speaker 2: that kind of speed's just taller, longer, kind of advante

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Speaker 2: Smith body type yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Thirty two kool Aid McKinstry the cornerback out of

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Speaker 1: Alabama and the pro comp is Charvarius Ward.

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Speaker 2: Ward's a good player, seem Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Thirty three Chris Braswell, the defensive end out of Alabama.

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Speaker 1: The pro comp is Harold Landry.

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Speaker 2: I have like Landry's career. He's been a little up

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Speaker 2: and down. But okay.

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Speaker 1: Thirty four Lad mcconkeye the wide receiver out of Georgia.

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Speaker 2: I bet it's not Thurell Owens.

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Speaker 1: The pro comp is pookin the Kua. He's a lot

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Speaker 1: smaller than the similar at all. Yeah, he's a lot

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Speaker 1: small as like two twenty five. And he's a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean McConkie's not because the color of his skin,

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Speaker 2: people think he's welker. He's bigger than that in terms

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Speaker 2: of length and height, but he's not thick like Nakula,

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Speaker 2: Michael Vick to It can't beat Michael Vick. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: Uh thirty seven Jatavian Sanders, the tight end out of Texas.

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Speaker 1: The Pro comm David and Joku. Does that mean he

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Speaker 1: Uh thirty eight Chop Robinson, the defensive end out of

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Speaker 1: The comp here is Tyler Boyd. Oh No, Tyler Boyd

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Speaker 2: Yeah, long, athletic, kind of straight lineish.

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Speaker 1: Forty one Graham Barton, the offensive lineman at a Duke.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think Barton will be a center and Scaranski's

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Speaker 2: a guard. They're both versatile and really good on film.

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Speaker 1: Forty two Tyler Nuban, the safety out of Minnesota. The

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Speaker 1: But Simmons is more of a free though more strong.

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Speaker 1: Forty three Jordan Morgan, the offensive tackle whatever Arizona.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have a camp for him.

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Speaker 1: Compass Dean Dawkins.

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Speaker 1: Forty four Adsa Isaac, the defensive end at Penn State.

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Speaker 1: And the compass boy A Mafey.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. Yeah. It might be more athletic.

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Speaker 2: I mean he might be a better tester than Mafey.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Forty five Junior Colson, the linebacker out of Michigan

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Speaker 2: Did you have him yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Much later than this, I might add, And the pro

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Speaker 2: Bolton's shorter, squattier, but they're both leaders. Yeah, get everyone

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Speaker 2: aligned We've talked to us a little this week. The Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Who's four off the ball linebackers, but Bolton still never

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Speaker 1: Forty Yeah. Zach Fraser, the center out of West Virginia, the.

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Speaker 2: Pro former wrestler.

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Speaker 1: I would pick Tyler Linderbaum.

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Speaker 1: Forty seven Patrick Paul the offensive tackle out of Houston.

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Speaker 2: Armind Gilliam, Carl Malone, Morgan, Moses. Oh, he's a lot

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Speaker 1: Forty eight Malachai Corley, the wide receiver out of Western Contempo.

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Speaker 1: A Monross Saint Brown.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Forty nine Braylan Srice, the defensive end out of Washington.

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Speaker 1: The pro comp is Arnold.

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Speaker 1: And then fifty is Peyton Wilson, the linebacker out of

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Speaker 2: yeah he was. That was the throw Evans here. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I don't envy comps. I think that's really hard to do.

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Speaker 2: But I like the way the Walman does it that

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Speaker 1: Jade and Daniels. A better passing Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: That's Patriots to be pretty happy at three with that.

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Speaker 2: Lamar can throw the ball pretty well, folks. No one

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Speaker 1: Well. But he's coming into the league with the guy

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You think all those guys gonna be historic? Wow? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, We're gonna get to another break. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the drive

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Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more

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Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lollly. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson. And as we've done every day this week, Matt,

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Speaker 1: let's take a look at a position potentially of need

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Speaker 1: for the Steelers and the potential free agents that are

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Speaker 1: going to be hitting the market here at that at

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Speaker 1: at the safety market.

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Speaker 2: This is usually a pretty keen friendly position that you

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Speaker 2: can shop at, and I think it's there's a real

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Speaker 2: good chance of Steelers add one of these names we mentioned.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, she got And again I'm looking at these

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Speaker 1: on spot track in terms of snap counts last year.

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Speaker 1: So number one on there is Cameron Curl from Washington.

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Speaker 2: People don't know who he is, I bet, but they

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Speaker 1: Problem is they franchised.

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Speaker 2: He's a expensive right, Like you might be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: that sounds good, it'd be good next to Maka, and

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Speaker 2: like he's gonna be ten million, twelve million. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be a lot, not gonna be cheap.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Whitehead from the Jets. He played one thousand, thousand

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Speaker 1: and sixty nine snaps, ninety seven tackles, and four interceptions

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Speaker 2: I think he's got a lot of slot capabilities. He's

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Speaker 2: not huge, but he's reliable. Pit defensive backs do well

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Speaker 2: on it ros.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they played they played so much man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're well coached. They play a lot

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Speaker 2: of man i'd consider it. I don't know if he's

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Speaker 1: The interesting thing about this is they usually they'll put

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Speaker 1: them market value on guys they think are going to

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Speaker 1: Jordan Whitehead.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I mean she could get him. It's a little

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Speaker 2: more than you're paying KZ or whatever. I'd be real

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Speaker 2: into that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Xavier McKinney from the Giants, he's only twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a really early second round pick out

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Speaker 2: of Bama too. More strong his market value. You told

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Speaker 2: me this one off the air, and I was blown away.

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Speaker 1: Ten point four million.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot for a safety.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I could see a team with a lot of caps

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Speaker 2: keeps getting better, it'd be a great addition. But that's

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Speaker 2: a lot to spend, A.

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Speaker 1: Lot to spend.

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Speaker 2: How much you're giving makeup.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Duggar, I love him.

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Speaker 2: I think he's Gonnat franchise too, which is sort of surprising.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they get the money to spend they do.

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Speaker 2: You know, they don't want to mess with the defense.

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Speaker 2: They wouldn't be the offense to be all new, but

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Speaker 1: I don't expect he's going anywhere now. Yeah, Antoine Winfield

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Speaker 1: and he's not going anywhere. And his market value is

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Speaker 1: like eighteen million.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he's gonna be one the high paid defensive

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Speaker 2: he's a great player, but he ain't going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Fuller with the Rams.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, I get the fullers mixed up. There's a Fuller

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Speaker 1: He'll turn twenty six here in another month or so.

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Speaker 1: But he had ninety three tackles, three interceptions, three forced

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Speaker 2: you look at you. Yeah. Is he six million?

441
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 1: They don't have a market value on him either. He

442
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 1: made He's coming off a season he made eight sixty

443
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 1: six last year.

444
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 2: Wow, that's the end of his rookie deal.

445
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 1: And his rookie deal.

446
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,679
Speaker 2: He's not a superright pick. But maybe he's less than

447
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 2: six million. Maybe he's a two year, nine million die

448
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 2: or something like that.

449
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 1: He got Julian Blackman from the Colts. He's still just

450
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 1: twenty five years old. Four interceptions last year. Good football player.

451
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 2: More free than strong, but I think he can do

452
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,679
Speaker 2: figure that out. Yeah, he can figure that out. Did

453
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 2: they have a marked value on him?

454
00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 1: They do not.

455
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,040
Speaker 2: Okay, he's another one that's pretty interesting. I think you

456
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,640
Speaker 2: get one of those dudes at a nice price.

457
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 1: Geno Stone, he's from around here, right, he's from Newcastle.

458
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: I believe he had a bunch of picks, seven interceptions

459
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 1: last year. Doesn't tackle real well.

460
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 2: No, I mean he's their third safety.

461
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

462
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 2: I wish him the best if he's a Pittsburgh guy.

463
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 2: But that's just the pro too. That's just the style

464
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: of free agents gets overpaid. Yeah, you know, coming off

465
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 2: of first contract, big year, a lot of interceptions, some

466
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 2: of them could be fluky. I mean, really good defense,

467
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 2: you know, but he's the third best safety on the team.

468
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: Alloy Gilman more of a free. He did have a

469
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 1: couple of picks last year for the Chargers, but their

470
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 1: defense was off off.

471
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Durwin's a strong, He's more of the

472
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 2: free but has some versatility. He'll be a starter somewhere.

473
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 1: Deshaun Elliott not bad. Yeah, he's still just twenty six.

474
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 1: He'll turn twenty seven this offseason.

475
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 2: He's fine, serviceable. Yeah, yeah, these guys won't cost much

476
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 2: in this neighborhood.

477
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: Jay Ron Curse is gonna be thirty here. I probably

478
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 1: don't want to go that route.

479
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 2: Probably not. They're too old on defense.

480
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: Michael Hydees thirty three. You're not going to go that route.

481
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 2: Cavon Wallace, he has a little bit of a corner background.

482
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 2: I remember Bama.

483
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

484
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't know a ton about how he's been used.

485
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if.

486
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 1: He played him. They played him in safety last year

487
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: with the Titans. Yeah, still just twenty six, you know. Yeah,

488
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: and maybe he's more of a third safety. In a

489
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: perfect world, M'd me play some nickel. Yeah.

490
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting name. I'd like to do a

491
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 2: little more homework on him.

492
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: Jonathan Owens, who was with the Packers.

493
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know a ton about him either.

494
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just looking here. Uh, Ryan Neil Now, Darnell

495
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: Savage is a name that people are going to bring up.

496
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 2: I know, and I think we both liked him a

497
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 2: lot coming out of school. Yeah, yeah, and tested great.

498
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 2: They're down on him though.

499
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: I just didn't.

500
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 2: Something was missing on that defense and they Packer fan

501
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 2: will blame Joe Berry, the defensive coordinator, heavily and he's

502
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 2: been let go, But Savage regressed Jarry Alexander apparently once out.

503
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: There's a lot of secondary upheaval. A lot of guys

504
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: are free agents in that secondary. I think you mentioned

505
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: Owen's isn't here from there, and Nicks the returner is

506
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: also up. I don't know what's going on there. Yeah,

507
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: but maybe Savage you get on a one year to

508
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: prove it deal and hope he's not much of a tackler. Yeah,

509
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 2: that's it's you know, but he can fly around and

510
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 2: he's versatile. John Johnson still twenty eight, Still twenty eight. Yeah,

511
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: it seems like every year ever. Yeah, he signs a

512
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 2: big contract with the Browns and then he goes back

513
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: to the Rams. Yeah. I don't love twenty eight. Yeah,

514
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: but he's been I would have guess he's older than that.

515
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: This is one that that I've already seen thrown out there.

516
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: The Steelers need to bring back Terrell Edmands.

517
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: He could be my third Yeah, I don't want as

518
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 2: a starter. I mean, not that he's terrible, he just

519
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 2: doesn't make enough plays and kind of anything eater.

520
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: You know, he had a big interception last year for

521
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: the Titans.

522
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: In that game. Yeah, the Steelers needed them to win

523
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: that one.

524
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: It's re elevants. Came up with the big the big pick.

525
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's week twelve and there's injuries or

526
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 2: you know, like there were his past year, I'd rather

527
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: have Edmunds out there than Yella brew. Yeah, you know,

528
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: but I don't want to go into season with Edmunds

529
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: and Fitzpatrick only.

530
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: Taylor rap mm hmm.

531
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: More more strong. I think he has a lot of penalties.

532
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: He was looking for more strong. Yeah, yeah, free and.

533
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 2: He'll hit you. I bet she. I was he twenty seven?

534
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 1: He's twenty six.

535
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a pretty high pick, right, Wasn't he

536
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 2: a second.

537
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 1: Round somewhere in that range? Yeah? Yeah, let's see here,

538
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 1: anybody else Jeremy Chin.

539
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: That one's interesting because there's more going on there because

540
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: the old coordinator before this year loved them, and Chin

541
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: looked like a foundational player, early second round pick, great tester, size, speed, dude,

542
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 2: almost he was supposed to be dug or light. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

543
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 2: it was the same draft class, both small school guys,

544
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: and he didn't His knap counts are down right. I

545
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: mean he kind of got benched this year.

546
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: He played two hundred and sixty four snaps last year,

547
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: but he had twenty eight tackles.

548
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 2: See like him and Savage, you know, if you can

549
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 2: get them cheap and they're kind of at a weird

550
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: spot in their career.

551
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of It's kind of what the Steelers

552
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: did with Killer Brew was a second round pick for

553
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: the line.

554
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

555
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: People forget that he was like, he was a highly

556
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: touted guy out and so you take a chance on

557
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: that guy. At worst, he's a good a solid special

558
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: teams player.

559
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 2: For you, Yeah, exactly. And I don't know what's like.

560
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: I don't foresee Savage being a special team or maybe

561
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: Chin realizes that's his only route to stay in the league.

562
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. The change of scenery for a super

563
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: talented guy station is worth the risk for me?

564
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, for a guy that was, you know, highly thought

565
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: of at one point not that long ago.

566
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, unless there's something they're missing. Did he play

567
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 2: all year with a knee that I don't know about? Yeah.

568
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.

569
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: This is another guy that's liked him coming out of

570
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: the draft a few years ago, Ashton Davis with the Jets.

571
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: M Yeah, as a COLU. Yeah, he had three interceptions

572
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: last year one hundred and sixty nine defensives.

573
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 2: I liked him with a lot coming out. Yeah, I

574
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: would think he's not super expensive. He was a rangy

575
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,719
Speaker 2: free safety type. But it's not like he can't come

576
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: near to the line of scrimmage either. You know, it's

577
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: not bad. I might take two of these and hope

578
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 2: one hits you know what I mean, It's.

579
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: Not the worst that you could do. Uh, Chauncey Gardner

580
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: Johnson is going to be available. I don't want to

581
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: touch him. Everybody everybody hates him.

582
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 2: Everybody hates him, his teammates and he used to fight

583
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: Michael Thomas in practice.

584
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 1: But he's talented.

585
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 2: He's talented. He might have a screw loose, He's can

586
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: play this loot.

587
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: He made six point five though last year with Detroit.

588
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: I doubt I doubt he's going to take lesson and

589
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: he was hurt a lot.

590
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: He was hurt a lot, and that's part of the issue. Yeah,

591
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 2: you'd have to know his his psychology and his personality.

592
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: Might need his own psychologists. Yeah, because everybody.

593
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of those guys are Matthew Barnaby that you

594
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: know that if he's on your team, you love him

595
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: as a pesky third line wing guy on in hockey,

596
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 2: but you don't want to play against him because he's

597
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: nasty as could be. Or he might just have a

598
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 2: screw loose and wants to fight everybody in the world

599
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: and you don't want to be around him, you know,

600
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: So I would imagine they would know that answer.

601
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: But he can play, Yeah, he can play. Who else

602
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: is on here that interests me? Look, obviously kill a

603
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: Brew is on there. Yeah, we'll see what I mean.

604
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: He's a special team. He's a great if you can

605
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: bring him back to the special team, and that's great.

606
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: They usually have two or three. They're making money at

607
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: that position, right special.

608
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 1: Rest of these guys really didn't play a whole lot.

609
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: So that's what she was kind of looking at there.

610
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: But there's a bunch of names on there that I'd

611
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: be interested in.

612
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, none of them are crazy expensive. You know, you're

613
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: not gonna get Winfield, You're not gonna get Curl, you know.

614
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: I mean, but that's not a bad place to shop

615
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: to find a starter you can more than live with. Yeah.

616
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: If you just look at these as strictly as the

617
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: guys listed as strong, I mean, it's it. That's where

618
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: the strength of this is. Because you can find those guys. Yeah.

619
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not rare and they don't get paid a ton. Yeah,

620
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: but you need you need them, You need them. The

621
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: middle of the field will be helpful. They could have

622
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: used that guy this year.

623
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you'd like them to to take the ball

624
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: away a little bit as well.

625
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 2: I mean, an ideal world sign one of these dudes

626
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: draft on the fourth round. I don't know if you

627
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: have enough draft picks to go around to pull that off,

628
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: but you might buy draft time. Yeah.

629
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: I think that's, you know, kind of what they were

630
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: trying to do with with KZ and Neil this year.

631
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: Most of the time Neil played early in the season,

632
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: he started a strong safety yeah yeah, and they played

633
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: KZ at free when they wanted to bump Fitzpatrick down

634
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: to do some other stuff.

635
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you want to get a guy that

636
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: will free up Fitzpatrick to do other things. Yeah. Yeah.

637
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: With that QUI so you do need another free there.

638
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: You also don't want to get super old there. If

639
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: it's Killer Brew, a twenty seven year old a Menka

640
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: and you're only keeping four, it's like you know where

641
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: it would.

642
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: Because Killer Brew is going to be thirty one this offseason.

643
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: I would imagine he's a one year deal if you

644
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 2: bring him back. Yeah, yeah, and you don't really want

645
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: him playing defense.

646
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: That's the idea. Yeah, I mean you probably, I mean,

647
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: live with it. They kept five this year.

648
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 2: They didn't keep five this year?

649
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: You know, so is Row one of those guys?

650
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: It's that's in that mix, is going to be a

651
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: Steeler next year, at least to what I saw.

652
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: I got no problem with that. Now again, year old,

653
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: then you need to draft one, I know, or get

654
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: one of these younger players.

655
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: Or your first round pick next year is safety and

656
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: just be old there for a year.

657
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I'm I don't.

658
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: Love that either. It's it's kind of the whole defensive dilemma.

659
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so if I can go get a

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Speaker 1: Julian Blackman at twenty five, who can that's a nice

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Speaker 1: one who can play either fore or strong with Row

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Speaker 1: Yeah and Killer Brew, Yeah, I think that's a better

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Speaker 1: way to approach it.

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Speaker 2: I mean needs a side. I don't think you ever

665
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Speaker 2: turned your nose up at a second through fifth round

666
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Speaker 2: safety either. Yeah, especially they have slot capabilities or you know,

667
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Speaker 2: if you don't, if your slot corner is not set,

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Speaker 2: you know, we don't know who that is going to

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Speaker 2: be right now. Yeah, me be an interesting puzzle because

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Speaker 2: you don't want to be a bunch of twenty six

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Speaker 2: twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: I mean in an ideal where DoD you just go

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Speaker 1: out and sign Jordan Whitehead. Yeah, but you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to afford that.

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Speaker 2: What do you think he makes? I didn't think he

676
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Speaker 2: would be crazy expensive.

677
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Speaker 1: I don't five or six played one thousand snaps last

678
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Speaker 1: year and he had four interceptions. They don't have a

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Speaker 1: market value on here. But he's probably going to be

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Speaker 1: I doubt he's ten. He's not going to be ten,

681
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Speaker 1: but probably over five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to you know, Minkus not cheap?

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Speaker 2: No, he's not, he's not. It's a good question.

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Speaker 1: But he's a twenty six year old. Don't soon to

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Speaker 1: be twenty seven year old. I mean no, if you're

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Speaker 1: going to attack it, if you're going to attack it,

688
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Speaker 1: and spend the money on a guy and then go

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Speaker 1: added a late later round draft pick. I would get

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Speaker 1: that because the late round draft pick is probably gonna

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Speaker 1: play a lot of special teams for you. And Okay,

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00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: but you know idea in an ideal world, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you want to be able to use Minca in a

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Speaker 1: lot of different ways, so you really need two other

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Speaker 1: guys there to make that happen. If one's row or

696
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: is this a situation that you'd like to just take

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Speaker 1: Menca and say you're the free safety and his career.

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00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: Probably it would probably extend his career.

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Speaker 2: It probably keeps him on the field more. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: not the worst idea, but it's sure nice yourself.

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Speaker 1: A good nickel would be the yeah, would be the

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Speaker 1: other option for that.

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Speaker 2: And signing nickel corners isn't hard.

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Speaker 1: Or you get a strong safety that can do some

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Speaker 1: of those tight end coverages that you've been using Fitzpatrick

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Speaker 1: to do.

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Speaker 2: I think that's in the cards no matter what. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean most safeties now, especially entering the league, have

709
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Speaker 2: slot capabilities that those lines are getting blurred really quick.

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Speaker 2: Slot corners people don't want the Hiltons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe maybe you do go get a guy

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00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: that you know, a chin that can to me too.

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Speaker 1: He might be a dime linebacker too, right, you know,

714
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: maybe that you can do some different then to dig

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Speaker 1: into those things, you know, why was he not on

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Speaker 1: the field as much as you thought? They're more than

717
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, because honestly, I don't want to have to

718
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: use making Fitzpatrick that way. I know he can do it,

719
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Speaker 1: but he got hurt a lot this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it wouldn't break my heart if he played Deep

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00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: Metal of the rest of his career. Well, yeah, he

722
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Speaker 2: was the best guy and EDREI did, and Earl Thomas.

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Speaker 1: It up and have that career like yeah, sure, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm signing.

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00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: Up for that, So yeah, it's not bad.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lelly. We get a little breaking news with

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Speaker 1: the Steelers here. We'll get to that when we come back.

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Speaker 1: numerous reports out there, we've been on the air, so

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Speaker 1: it's kind of yes that the this According to Jerry Dulux,

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Speaker 1: Steelers have hired former New York Jets assistant Zach Azani

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Speaker 1: is their wide receivers coach and former Chargers assistant Tom

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Speaker 1: Arth as the quarterback coach. He was the past Arth

741
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: was the past game specialist, uh for the Chargers, but

742
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Speaker 1: he's not going to assume that role for with the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: They're still trying to figure out some kind of arrangement

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Speaker 1: with Mike Sullivan as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so none of it's quite official yet, but that's

747
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: what seems like it's in the works. Assistant coaches almost

748
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Speaker 2: impossible to call me. Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be like, well, the Chargers fired

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Speaker 2: their guy, so this guy doesn't have any clue what

751
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Speaker 2: he's doing. I mean, he might have helped Justin Herbert tremendously.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea. I don't know the answer to it.

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00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: I'm also not going to credit the wide receiver coach

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Speaker 2: for making Garrett Wilson really good. He probably would have

755
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: been good with me as a receiver coach or you

756
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: or anybody else who the heck knows. I kind of

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00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: like that Sullivan sounds likely to be back, you know

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00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: a little bit of what you had last year relationship

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Speaker 2: with Pickett. Yeah, and I like that they went outside

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00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: the organization from three different organizations. You know, let's get

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Speaker 2: some new ideas, let's get some fresh blood and see

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Speaker 2: how it goes. I mean again, it's just hard to comment.

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Speaker 1: On yeah, I mean until I get to see them

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Speaker 1: actually on the field, working and talking to guys about them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people in the.

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Speaker 1: Organization like, boy, he's really bright, or yeah it's atletally new,

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Speaker 1: or you know, right, give me seeing how they run

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Speaker 1: their practices and things of that nature. I can't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, who knows, who knows? I mean, just reading

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Speaker 2: a resume, it's hard to say. I looked up Arth

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Speaker 2: at the break real quick. John Carroll guy, I mean,

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Speaker 2: was with the micron zips there for two years. Cool.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, is he from this area

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Speaker 2: of the country. I don't know. I assume If I assume.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere those spots western Pennsylvania, eastern Ohio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but who the heck knows. Hopefully it works out.

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Speaker 2: But I like how they've conducted their offensive search and

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00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: didn't just bump people up, and you know, they went

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Speaker 2: outside the organization.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you just don't You just don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and people will complain about it regardless,

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00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: that's just what happens.

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Speaker 2: How could you get someone from the Jets, they were

784
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 2: one of the worst offenses in the league. How could

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Speaker 2: get someone from the Chargers? They had Herbert? You know,

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Speaker 2: I will say this idea.

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Speaker 1: Arth spent three seasons with the Colts in the Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manning era?

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Speaker 2: Oh did he?

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Speaker 1: So you get a little Tom Moore there, you get

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Speaker 1: a little Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's some good influences there to learn from. Okay, interesting. So,

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Speaker 2: so he's been doing this for a while. He's not

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Speaker 2: just the twenty nine year old up and comer then.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and three through two thousand and five. Actually

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Speaker 1: he's the Saint Gacious guy from Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Cleveland. Okay, we used to recruit ignacious heavy that's a

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Speaker 2: football factory. Yeah, Okay, so he's not so far away.

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Speaker 2: I gets it. I like that part.

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Speaker 1: I had to laugh again. I was actually I was

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Speaker 1: reading through some stuff today and I saw somebody questioned

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Speaker 1: this whole idea that Cliff Kingsbury is somehow a bright,

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Speaker 1: young offensive mind.

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Speaker 2: You must have listened to my podcast and Arthur Smith

805
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 2: is not right now, Kingsbury might be a swell fellaw.

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Speaker 2: But I went back and did homework before my podcast

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Speaker 2: today just to kind of look at his background. Think

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Speaker 2: about this for a second. His first year as a

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Speaker 2: head coach, he had Baker Mayfield, who went on to

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Speaker 2: be the first pick in the draft, not because of

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Speaker 2: what he did with Kingsbury left the organization, became the

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Speaker 2: first pick in the draft. A year went by after

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Speaker 2: the Mayfield season, and he had my homes for two years,

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Speaker 2: didn't win with him, who went on to be maybe

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Speaker 2: the best quarterback that's ever left.

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Speaker 1: I think he lost as many games in his two

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Speaker 1: seasons with Kingsbury as he lost in his first six seasons.

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Speaker 2: It's about saying right exactly with Andy Reid. So then

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Speaker 2: he gets hired as the Cardinals head coach, convinces them

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Speaker 2: to give up on Josh Rosen, which I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to hold again some Rosen didn't do anything anywhere else.

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Speaker 2: But he was the eighth pick in the draft the

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00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: year before, so he could have yet another first overall pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray consistently lost with Kyler goes to USC with

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Speaker 2: who's about to be the first overall pick and that

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Speaker 2: guy has his worst year in college.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So he's worked with Mahomes probably the in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: the best quarterback that's ever lived and the best one

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Speaker 2: on the planet right now, and three inevitable or first

831
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Speaker 2: overall pick quarterbacks and didn't win anything.

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Speaker 1: Italy squat with any of them. That occurs to me.

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Speaker 1: He's considered a bright young up in con Yes, he's

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Speaker 1: forty four. I've just been forty one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I say he's been doing this a

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00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: long time too. I mean he can't be Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: didn't know he's forty four, But Arthur Smith looks older.

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Speaker 1: He loves a bigger guy as a.

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Speaker 2: Former lineman, you know, So I think there's a misconception there.

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00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: But perception is so weird with these assistant coaches.

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Speaker 1: It just drives me nuts every time I see you.

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00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: Why didn't the Steelers go hire a hot young assistant

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00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: like Cliff Kingsbury.

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Speaker 2: If you're right, right, I mean they act like this

845
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 2: as a sixty five year old curmudgeon. You know that's

846
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 2: smoking his cigar.

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00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: And yeah, he's just hire Tom Moore, who's in his

848
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: nineties right and is a great guy.

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Speaker 2: But you know, Smith may or may not work out.

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00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: But three seasons ago, he was the definition of the

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00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 2: hot young coordinator. Yes, that's exactly what he was exactly

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00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 2: three years ago. I was three years ago, three whole years. Yeah,

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00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: I mean, and he probably learns things didn't go great

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00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: and Atlanta as a head coach, but I'm sure he

855
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: learned some things, you would think. And yeah, one of

856
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: the knocks on Smith, but I think is warranted. As

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00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 2: as the head coach in Atlanta, he had some any ideas,

858
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: but he didn't when Rabel was in charge of him. Right,

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00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: I don't think he will with Tomlin in charge of him.

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Speaker 1: There's a governor that there's now a governor. Screw on

861
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: everything that he does.

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00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: We know who's in charge of the organization, and everything's

863
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 2: gonna get run by Rabel. And that's when they did great.

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00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: Everyone's gonna run by Tomlin. Okay, we've seen the show.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean he can't draw plays and have an

866
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: offense that can work because he.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't get the ball to his best guys. Do you

868
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 2: say much touches Derrick Henry and AJ Brown, those guys

869
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: got I mean, and I think I told you this,

870
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: but Drake London had the third highest target share of

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00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: any receiver in the league this year. The target chair they.

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00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: Said, throw the ball time right, That doesn't mean they

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00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: won't do it next day. They still got the ball

874
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Speaker 1: to their best guys. They went, they fineled the offense

875
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: through their best guys. And oh, by the way, again,

876
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: when you're complaining about Tyler algayear Tyler als year was

877
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: a running back coming off a thousand yard season. He's

878
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: not bad under Arthur Smith. Yeah, nobody had heard of

879
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: Tyler out year, and they do a lot of creative stuff.

880
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: People look like a very static, boring offense.

881
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: No it isn't. You'll be very shocked with what it

882
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: looks like.

883
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: It's a hell of a lot more unstatic than Cliff

884
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 1: Kingsbury's offense.

885
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: And I no offense to you listeners. How much Falcons

886
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: tape did you guys watch last year? I mean, come on,

887
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: did you really watch all that much Falcons tape? Were

888
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: they on primetime a lot?

889
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: Were they in the playoffs?

890
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: Did you watch a lot of breakdown a lot of

891
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: offensive Falcons tape? I bet you didn't, just saying maybe

892
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: a couple while you did. But they do some stuff.

893
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: They do some stuff. But yeah, that's every time I

894
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: see that when somebody talks about a hot, young up

895
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: and coming coach like Cliff Kingsbury, who's older than Arthur Smith,

896
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: noticeably noticeably he just looks younger, and well he had

897
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: a cool pad in Phoenix City, you know, but.

898
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: He sounds like an interesting fellow. I mean, I'm wishing

899
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: him the best. I just his resume doesn't do him

900
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: a lot of favors. It really doesn't get three first

901
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: overall quarterbacks and Pat Mahomes. It hasn't want anything.

902
00:40:55,360 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it works out for him in Washington, it's all great.

903
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this all stem I got asked. I mean,

904
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: would you be concerned if you're a Commander's fan and

905
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: they take a quarterback second overall? Yes, I'd be concerned.

906
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: Well, just laid it out. Yeah, here for this guy

907
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: is not good.

908
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: I hope it works out. They turned Drake May into

909
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 2: the superstar. But yes I would be concerned.

910
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, the whole offensive, the whole assistant coach thing.

911
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: And I don't care who it is.

912
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 2: Nobody knows. Nobody knows. You know. When I was with

913
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: the team, I would know I had a very strong

914
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: opinion who our good coaches were and who weren't. But

915
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: if I wasn't in those walls every day, I'd have

916
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 2: no clue. Yeah, I have no clue.

917
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's the product that's put on the field,

918
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: But to your point, the product is only so good

919
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: as you know. It's like making a meal. Yeah, if

920
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: I've got if I just went out and spent eighty

921
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: dollars or one hundred dollars on groceries, I can be

922
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: a pretty good meal.

923
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: I could make a great meal.

924
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: If I'm it's the last day before I go get

925
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: groceries and I'm just digging around in the cupboards to

926
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: figure out what I'm gonna make sure, it's probably not

927
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: going to be as good a meal.

928
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: But if you can make it acceptable and I can

929
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: live with my safeties or quarterbacks with what you have

930
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: in the cupboard left over, that's good coaching. I'm a

931
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 2: terrible cook. I'd spend one hundred bucks of China Eagle

932
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 2: and I'd come home and he'd be like, this meal

933
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: is acceptable, but it could be so much better. You know,

934
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: that's the difference.

935
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're right, you know, you know, you work with

936
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: what you got, but sometimes you have more to work

937
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: with and that makes a huge difference.

938
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Speaker 2: Like if the other thing about assistant coaches, and I

939
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: think this is really important, they have bosses, and those

940
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: bosses tell them how to handle their specific position too,

941
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: you know, like all I want to my running back

942
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: not to fumble or whatever it is.

943
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: You know, like that was one of the problems with

944
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: Bijeon last year that Algiers Algira doesn't fumble.

945
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: No, he's a little more reliable to And I.

946
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: Think Bijeon had four. So you know, I get that.

947
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: We've seen it in the past where you know, they

948
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: running a running back of fumble and okay, you're out

949
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: for like an X three series.

950
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, go think about what you did. Yeah,

951
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: go get put the dun or whatever. Right. I think

952
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: I mentioned this stat too with them is Kyle Pitts

953
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: alarmingly had the most uncatchable throws his way. Yeah, times

954
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: a thousand of any tight end in the league. I mean,

955
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: like the next worst or like seventy four percent of

956
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 2: their passes were deemed catchable. His was like sixty three percent.

957
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: And that goes back to last year too, or two

958
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: years ago. I should say we both had him on

959
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: our fantasy teams.

960
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 2: He's the most frustrating game watching Marcus.

961
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: Mariota overthrow the six foot six tight end by eight

962
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,479
Speaker 1: feet and he was not fun.

963
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: And his average up part is really high. He's almost

964
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: more of a receiver, but he's out there waving his

965
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: arms and they rode in the stands. You know, I'm

966
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: not gonna blame Arthur Smith or Pitts for that when

967
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: he was open moves open. Yeah, Mariota was a lot

968
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 2: of unaccurate, inaccurate quarterback as you'll find. And Ridder wasn't

969
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: much better.

970
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, No, that's what he had to work with again,

971
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: the materials that you had to work with. When he

972
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: got Bryan Tannehill got a lot out of them, who

973
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: was kind.

974
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Speaker 2: Of you know, he was going to bustle.

975
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: That was a leftover. Yeah, Yeah, he made leftovers and

976
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: he turned the leftovers into something pretty good.

977
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Speaker 2: Yeah, went the SC Championship game take that. Yeah, no, no, don't.

978
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Speaker 2: I don't know if it'll be a success or not,

979
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: but I do think the perception of him is way off. Yeah.

980
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: I just maybe it is because he's a bigger dude and.

981
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: He had that to him and the way he's handled

982
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: the media here and there too, and you know, fine,

983
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: I just wanted to design offensive couple it.

984
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's forty one, he's not sixty one.

985
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: He's gonna run the ball and run, run, throw, you know, like,

986
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: I don't think that's what's gonna happen.

987
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna run the foot, They're gonna run ball

988
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman.

989
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're gonna see big people on the field.

990
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 2: They're gonna run the football. They're gonna do play action

991
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: a lot. I mean that's stuff I can promise you.

992
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't really looked yet at the quarterback market.

993
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 2: Jub Yeah, do it tomorrow.

994
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: We will do that tomorrow. Okay, as we break walls.

995
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: There's some sort of interesting names, and even in that market,

996
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: there's trades more so than you know, could you get

997
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. I'm just throwing on names, you know, Like,

998
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's what I would do. But people

999
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: can be had if you fall in love with someone. Yeah,

1000
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: you know.

1001
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: So we'll talk more about that tomorrow. But Matt, that's

1002
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: going to do it for our show today, so already tomorrow,

1003
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: we'll also talk a lot of super Bowl. Yeah, make

1004
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: the DFS lineup, Picky, We're going to do Captain's Year.

1005
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: It's probably the best way to probably the best way

1006
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: to do a super Bowl.

1007
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, think about it.

1008
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of different options in this super Bowl.

1009
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm up for whatever.

1010
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at it. Anyways, that's going to do it

1011
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: first show today. So for my partner Matt Williamson, for

1012
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: Justin Miller here on site keeping us on the air,

1013
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lellye. We thank you for listening to this

1014
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Speaker 1: edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.