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Speaker 1: years ago. This is great, all right, come on in,

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Speaker 1: stay a while. We'll talk to Brady Quinn. He joins

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Speaker 1: us on Fridays and we'll recap what we saw last night.

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Speaker 1: try to make sense of what's going on with COVID,

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Speaker 1: with your teams and what it's going to be like

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Speaker 1: this weekend. Usually when you have your quarterbacks there, we're okay.

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Speaker 1: Nick Mullins is gonna be the quarterback for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: What happened to case keenom No, he's in COVID protocol

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Speaker 1: Twitter handle at dp's show. It wasn't pretty last night,

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Speaker 1: but Kensas City Chiefs hung tough beat the Chargers in overtime,

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Speaker 1: taking a commanding lead in the AMC West. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs formula is simple. Now. They have played good

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Speaker 1: defense at times great defense, but it comes down to

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey and Tyreek Hill. Chargers defense knew

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Speaker 1: couldn't stop him. Kelsey was great, nearly two hundred receiving yards,

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Speaker 1: game winning touchdown in overtime. Hill had one forty eight

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Speaker 1: and a tough touchdown catch. Mahomes he deserves credit, had

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Speaker 1: normally he'll make these big plays on plays where you go,

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Speaker 1: how did he do it? And then the simple plays

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Speaker 1: you'll go, how did he not do it? But for

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Speaker 1: the team to beat in the division. They left a

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Speaker 1: lot of points on the field going forward on fourth

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Speaker 1: down repeatedly, and they failed many times, too many times. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, they showed their resiliency and prove once again

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Speaker 1: when you have Mahomes, Kelsey and Hill, you're going to

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Speaker 1: be in any game as far as the fourth down calls.

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Speaker 1: Here's Brandon Staley, he's the head coach of the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: You know, I felt really comfortable with all those decisions.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the first one, it's all perfect pass

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Speaker 1: the way we're gonna play around here. That's the way

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Speaker 1: Now you score twenty eight, you would think against Kansas

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Speaker 1: it was too easy. So that's why analytics kind of

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Speaker 1: talent that he had, or that's just his philosophy. Here's

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Speaker 1: justin Herbert the Chargers QB on not converting fourth downs.

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately we didn't convert as many as we would

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Speaker 1: And I love that and that's what I want to hear,

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Speaker 1: and I love that that's the coaching philosophy. It's just

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Speaker 1: get you got to get points, and that's where I

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Speaker 1: that there have been two overtime games in the history

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Speaker 1: the day? He comes that what staut of the day?

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Speaker 1: Smoked prime rib, cornish game, hend king, crab legs, squash, casserole, garlic,

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Speaker 1: cranberry bourbon, smash, cocktails, molasses, and snickerdoodle cookies. Who has

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Speaker 1: it better than us? Nobody? Wow, Tyler, Tyler got kicked

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Speaker 1: to the curb though. Chad comes in all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: this is as good as when Tyler made Sloppy Joe's

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Speaker 1: you don't have an opinion anymore. I made tofu the

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Speaker 1: sloppy Goes are awesome. By the way, just to be clear,

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Speaker 1: stupid every busting as compared me to Alan and like,

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Speaker 1: Chad comes in, Come on, Winnie, let's go. Let's go

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Speaker 1: playing with my puppy. Let's go eat some biscuits together, Winnie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: dog biscuits that you're selling? Bang biscuits. Tyler eats them.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's like snacks for him. He's crushing them.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll go out there and I'll go, Tyler, what

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Speaker 1: the puppy, Yes, mclevan, can I take one more shot? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: When Chad was in, Alan used to try to pretend

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Speaker 1: did you ever notice that? Oh? Yeah, our it guy, Alan?

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Speaker 1: sends a great message to your team that this is

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Speaker 1: who we are and I have confidence in you be

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Speaker 1: going forward on fourth down at the end of the

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Speaker 1: first half. I didn't understand because if you don't make it,

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Speaker 1: then you have the Chiefs in horrible position. Well, the

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Speaker 1: half is ending, braiding sober, you got to kick a

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Speaker 1: field goal in that situation. The other ones you want

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Speaker 1: to go for it. Fine, we can maybe nitpick on

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Speaker 1: the play calling. But I had a problem at the

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Speaker 1: end of the first half not getting three points. And

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Speaker 1: I wonder how much the fourth down earlier that was

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Speaker 1: dropped that they could have converted for a touchdown, how

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Speaker 1: much of that played into it, right, Like, they should

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Speaker 1: have scored a touchdown it they should have converted that.

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Speaker 1: And thoughts and prayers too, obviously the players, okay, but

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Speaker 1: you know the reality is, I wonder how much of

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Speaker 1: that played a factor into the feeling of all that

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Speaker 1: because I'm with you, I'm thinking of my head, just

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Speaker 1: take the points, move on to the second half. This

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Speaker 1: isn't the time to take that risk necessarily. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you also have Justin Herbert as your quarterback, and I

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Speaker 1: think the meth that she is sending, and you're right,

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Speaker 1: it's it's the entire team, like it's the Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: in your offense saying we think that highly of this kid,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna give him four downs in a lot of circumstances,

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Speaker 1: not three. And that might change the way we look

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Speaker 1: at football or how teams approach us. But it's going

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Speaker 1: to change the way I think a lot of PEP

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Speaker 1: people look at football, especially when you got a quarterback

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Speaker 1: like Justin Herbert. But it's also telling your defense if

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Speaker 1: we don't get it, we believe in you yea, being

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Speaker 1: able to get us the football back to this guy.

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Speaker 1: So analytics, though, Brady, because analytics don't factor in. It's

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey and Tyree Hill going for

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Speaker 1: it on fourth down. You know, if which is Sir Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: you can't use the same analytics. I personally hate even

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Speaker 1: the analytics conversation because I think it's two nuanced. There's

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Speaker 1: too many variables. I mean, for starters, your game plan

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Speaker 1: alone changes drastically week to week with the personnel groupings

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Speaker 1: you want to try to utilize to find that matchup

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Speaker 1: versus your opponent their scheme. You know, depending on what

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Speaker 1: type of cover three zone they play, teams play them differently,

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Speaker 1: so how you go about preparing those route concepts are differently,

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Speaker 1: the blitz packages are different. So in all those scenarios,

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Speaker 1: and you better believe on fourth down in particular, we would,

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Speaker 1: you know, we would put on the game plan. Gotta

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Speaker 1: have it plays. There's some teams who are going to

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Speaker 1: bring the house depending on where you're at, especially down

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Speaker 1: on the red zone. There's some teams we're gonna play

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Speaker 1: all covers, they're gonna drop eight, So you have different,

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Speaker 1: you know, a different preparation for each one of those.

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Speaker 1: So there's so many variables just with your opponent and

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Speaker 1: that situation, let alone your own personnel and who's out

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Speaker 1: there and that matchup and how your personnel matches up

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Speaker 1: against them, and then then injuries and everything else and

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Speaker 1: flow of the game. I think last night's decision by

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Speaker 1: Brandon Stanley is more flow of the game he saw earlier, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we should have had that, it should have been a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: We feel confident about what we're seeing. Let's go for

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Speaker 1: it here. And by the way, we are playing the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: So maybe if they're playing the Jets, as you said,

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Speaker 1: you take the points, you move on. But because it's

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, you kind of feel like we have to

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Speaker 1: take these chances of scoring touchdowns. We can't afford to

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Speaker 1: take our photo off the gas at any points time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I understand that that the Chiefs get in your

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Speaker 1: head more than any other team in the NFL where

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Speaker 1: you go, we gotta get we gotta get touchdowns on

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Speaker 1: field goals, And I understand that philosophy. But at the

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Speaker 1: end of the first half, I gotta have points. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to go in that locker room going, man,

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Speaker 1: we failed on fourth again. Do you did Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: have a great game, good game, or just okay game?

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Speaker 1: Last night? I thought he had a good game. I

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Speaker 1: thought he had a good game. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: i'd call it a great game. I thought the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter was great for him. They're turning out towards the end.

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Speaker 1: I mean, besides one one pass in particular, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: get a lot of play. I mean, it's funny. You

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Speaker 1: can have a great game, but as a quarterback, when

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Speaker 1: you have that one bad pass that like easily it

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Speaker 1: was a layup for you and you miss it, you

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Speaker 1: burn it into the ground like that, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: ever come away saying it was a great game, like

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Speaker 1: you could you could barely miss it. You'd be just off.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you feel better about it, but when it looks

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Speaker 1: that bad, when it's that wide open, I don't know

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Speaker 1: that you'll ever come away saying it was a great game.

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Speaker 1: So it look, it was a good win, it was

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Speaker 1: a good game for him. But the scary thing is

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Speaker 1: I still think like the best is ahead for this

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Speaker 1: team and for this offense right now. Okay, if I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, Patriots got the Colts coming up this weekend

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Speaker 1: on Saturday. Better team right now in the AFC Patriots

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Speaker 1: or the Chiefs Chiefs, I just I think they're too talented.

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Speaker 1: The run that they're on right now. I love, Look,

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Speaker 1: I love everything that you know Bill Belichick has done

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Speaker 1: this year. I think, you know, I'm kind of in

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Speaker 1: the Cliff Kings very category. Or you can probably give

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Speaker 1: it to Bill Belichick every year. But this, at least

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Speaker 1: in my lifetime, maybe the best coaching job that he's

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Speaker 1: done because of everything he did back in the offseason,

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Speaker 1: the way this defense has come along this year, bringing

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Speaker 1: along Mac Jones, and they're just you know, getting mac

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Speaker 1: Jones where they got them. They didn't have to trade

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Speaker 1: up to get them, they said where they were. They

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Speaker 1: take them, and they plug him in an offense that

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Speaker 1: plays to all the strengths, and they surround them with

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Speaker 1: some playmakers, which obviously was needed. But you know, I

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Speaker 1: kind of look at where they are right now and

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Speaker 1: I wonder, you know, can they beat an Indianapolis team

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Speaker 1: that's gonna try to run the football down their throw

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Speaker 1: create some big plays in the past game with Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz And it's hard to buy into that where if

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs are playing the Colts, I don't have any

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Speaker 1: reservations about, you know, looking at the Colts, Colts probably

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Speaker 1: or excuse me, the Chiefs are probably favored in that matchup,

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Speaker 1: you know, whereas now you're looking at the Patriots there

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Speaker 1: at two and a half point underdog. So that that's

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Speaker 1: where I think the difference is. When you compare those

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Speaker 1: two teams right now, is the Chiefs get the benefit

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Speaker 1: of the doubt because of how explosive their offense can

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Speaker 1: be the best team in the NFC right now is

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. Okay, I think the way they're playing

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Speaker 1: right now, I put them in that category. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Bucks are are right up there too. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of hard to say that, and you could have made

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Speaker 1: that argument for the Cardinals, but it was a pretty

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Speaker 1: damning loss on Monday night. I mean they got physically

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Speaker 1: beat up. That that score wasn't indicative of how that

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Speaker 1: game felt just watching it, and really from the first

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Speaker 1: staff where Aaron Donald wanted to kind of prove a point,

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Speaker 1: like people people maybe forgot about me as far as

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Speaker 1: this discussion of the best defensive player in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: like Mica parts has been phenomenal, but it's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I've been here for a while one multiple awards for this.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget about me either. So that made me feel like, hey,

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Speaker 1: maybe we should worry about the Rams all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden becoming the sleeping giant as they built some been

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Speaker 1: moving forward. He's Brady Quinn, the former Notre Dame and

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown quarterback. He's with two pros and a cup

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Speaker 1: of Joe. That's the morning program on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: with LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox six am to nine

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Speaker 1: am Eastern. I want to be fair to you with

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Speaker 1: the urban Meyer quote that you had. This was prior

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Speaker 1: to him getting fired, but you were I think basically

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Speaker 1: calling out the media that we're being unfair to Urban Meyer.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to put words in your mouth. That's

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Speaker 1: why I'm gonna I'm gonna leave it to you to

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Speaker 1: explain what you meant by it. Yeah, I think the

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Speaker 1: quote I had got taken out of context a little

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Speaker 1: bit because I said it was applied to all college

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Speaker 1: football coaches anytime. And you can look at the track

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Speaker 1: record for Cliff Kingsbury, go back and look at the quotes.

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Speaker 1: When he first got there, people questioning, Hey, why does

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Speaker 1: he deserve to be here? He had didn't have success

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Speaker 1: at the college level of Texas Tech. Why should he

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Speaker 1: do the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. You know,

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Speaker 1: we tend to question those guys. Matt Rule, you know,

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Speaker 1: why is he here? You know, why is he in Carolina?

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Speaker 1: Which you know, looking at what he did from your

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Speaker 1: one of years they've already quitted the same amount of wins.

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Speaker 1: The quarterback position has kind of been a disaster this year,

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Speaker 1: yet they still end up probably improving, having at least

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Speaker 1: one or two more wins when it's all said done,

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Speaker 1: And they did a year ago. And so I always

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Speaker 1: just wonder why the media tends to be so negative

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Speaker 1: or pessimistic about the opportunity for a college coach to

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Speaker 1: come in and do the job. Now, I'm not naive

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Speaker 1: enough to think that just from playing in the NFL

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Speaker 1: that there's not drastic differences between the two, and you

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Speaker 1: might need to give that college coach a longer leash allah.

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Speaker 1: Look at Cliff Kingsbury. How about them Apples? How's that

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Speaker 1: working out right now? But I think that was the

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Speaker 1: similar that a similar statement I'd make for Urban Meyer

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Speaker 1: is there are people doing victory lapse right now. Dan

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Speaker 1: like they're going back for a fifth year of college

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Speaker 1: because he got fired, And I'm like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what head coach in thirteen games, who might I add

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Speaker 1: he did surpass their win total from a year ago.

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Speaker 1: Is turning around that organization. They've been a bad organization

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Speaker 1: for a while. They've drafted in the top ten every year.

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Speaker 1: It's two thousand and eight. They haven't been a good

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Speaker 1: organization or a good football team for a while, with

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Speaker 1: exception of one miracle season they go to the AFC

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Speaker 1: Championship game. And so to think that in thirteen games

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Speaker 1: a coach who's never coached that level before is going

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Speaker 1: to figure it out, I mean, you call it naive,

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Speaker 1: called whatever you want, but the reality is no one

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Speaker 1: gave urban Meyer a chance on the way in with

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Speaker 1: at least the way the media talked about him, and

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Speaker 1: what that means is they never gave him a chance

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Speaker 1: to make mistakes. Now, granted, he made a lot of mistakes,

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Speaker 1: like especially some of the public ones and things that

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Speaker 1: you know he has owned up to and the things

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Speaker 1: that he did, but I think Shan Khan had to

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Speaker 1: have realized when he hired him and he pursued him

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Speaker 1: by the way for a while, I can trust me

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Speaker 1: on that. I think he had to have realized what

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Speaker 1: he was getting himself into, Like this wasn't gonna be

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Speaker 1: like a hey year year one turnaround, maybe not year two,

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Speaker 1: maybe by year three or four. So you know, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of parts to blame in all of this,

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Speaker 1: But I think how the media in general treats college

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Speaker 1: football coach is trying to come to the NFL level

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Speaker 1: and make that jump. To me, it's always with this

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Speaker 1: air of pessimism. And meanwhile, we give other coaches passes

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Speaker 1: like Zach Taylor who was won six games the first

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Speaker 1: two years, and what were his qualifications coming into it Now?

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Speaker 1: They look better now than Laurence Park is a Joe

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Speaker 1: burrown that roster. But it's just odd how we handled

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Speaker 1: it too. But also it's it's really inside the organization

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Speaker 1: that I think people had a problem with. It was

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Speaker 1: Urban's style and you know, you can nobody said anything

636
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Speaker 1: about Zach Taylor and his personality in Cincinnati, but then

637
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Speaker 1: the expectations weren't where Urban was. We expect it, Oh,

638
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Speaker 1: here comes Urban, Okay, Master College, He's going to do

639
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Speaker 1: it in the NFL. It was the personality traits that

640
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Speaker 1: came out. I didn't think he was the right guy

641
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Speaker 1: for the job. I don't think he's a pro coach.

642
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Speaker 1: You got to get somebody who understands how to develop,

643
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Speaker 1: you know. Trevor Lawrence said that from the beginning, Ryan

644
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Speaker 1: Day would have been a better coach than Urban Meyer

645
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Speaker 1: with Jacksonville, and I firmly believe that not even actoring

646
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Speaker 1: in the personality part of this. He's younger and you'll

647
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Speaker 1: develop a quarterback better than Urban Wood. It's the personality

648
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Speaker 1: traits that came out Brady, and I think that's where

649
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: people had a real problem. Well, first off, I'll say this,

650
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: he has success everywhere he's gone. Yes, So the biggest

651
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Speaker 1: issue was you can get away with coaching pretty much

652
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Speaker 1: whatever way you want when you win. But when you're

653
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Speaker 1: hard on people players, coaches as well, and people in

654
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Speaker 1: the organization in this case, and you're not winning, that's

655
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Speaker 1: when it becomes an issue. Because winning cures all illnesses.

656
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Speaker 1: You could have a terrible working relationship with someone, but

657
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Speaker 1: if you're hitting your quota in sales, or you're making

658
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Speaker 1: punch of money, or you're winning football games, you can

659
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Speaker 1: deal with it like life's good. But in this case

660
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Speaker 1: that wasn't the case. Everyone feels miserable and look, I

661
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: was on bad football teams the NFL, and it's a hard,

662
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: hard thing to deal with on a week to week

663
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Speaker 1: basis when you're not winning football games. It really is.

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Speaker 1: And so I think one of the hardest things that

665
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Speaker 1: he had to figure out and learn, and he never

666
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Speaker 1: had enough time time to do it was how to lose,

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Speaker 1: like how to learn from your losses, Like that's like

668
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Speaker 1: a great life lesson for people is like it's not

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Speaker 1: the worst thing to lose, it's just you gotta learn

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Speaker 1: from it. And he never really lost. I mean, what

671
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Speaker 1: was he like one hundred and eighty seven and thirty

672
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Speaker 1: two in his college career coaching. I mean, think about that.

673
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Speaker 1: That's staggering. And the NFL, you know nowadays, with seventeen games, right,

674
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Speaker 1: you're ten and seven, you're in the playoffs and you've

675
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Speaker 1: literally lost half the amount of games you played. Nine

676
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Speaker 1: and eight may even make it, who knows, But that's

677
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Speaker 1: the reality is. I don't know that he ever was

678
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Speaker 1: given time to figure that out in thirteen games, and

679
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Speaker 1: I don't you know, maybe that's one of the question.

680
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Speaker 1: I think. The other thing you point out though about

681
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Speaker 1: Ryan Day is Ryan Day is more of hands on

682
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Speaker 1: with things. He's not like the CEO type coach. He's

683
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: going to be a part of the play calling. He's

684
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Speaker 1: gonna be a part of that quarterback room and developing c. J.

685
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Speaker 1: Strout or whoever next quarterback will be at Ohio State

686
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Speaker 1: or whoever has already been there. You know, Coach Meyer

687
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Speaker 1: has more of a CEO type of motality. He lets

688
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Speaker 1: his coach his coach, but they have to bear the

689
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Speaker 1: responsibility for the decisions that they make and how their

690
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Speaker 1: installs there team, what they're going about doing well, I

691
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Speaker 1: would not. I mean, I don't know. He probably be

692
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Speaker 1: joined us at Fox at some point that would be

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Speaker 1: my guests, you know, at some point comes back on

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Speaker 1: our desk. Um. I don't know that I reached out

695
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Speaker 1: to him, haven't heard back from him yet, which obviously

696
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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's dealing with a lot. But if Bob

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Speaker 1: Stops is Bob Stoops is leaving the Fox pregame show

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Speaker 1: right well, I mean, if he was, I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that'd be news to me. But um, you know,

700
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Speaker 1: who knows. Maybe we'd create another chair for him. Or

701
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Speaker 1: if Coach Stoops did leave, then I assume, you know,

702
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Speaker 1: their best spot there for Coach Meyer. Maybe they'd out

703
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: a spot for him. I don't know. Um, I enjoyed

704
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Speaker 1: working with with him. I enjoyed working with Coach Stoops.

705
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Speaker 1: So and you said you wanted you wanted to get

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Speaker 1: rid of Liners, so you could get Liner out of there,

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Speaker 1: and then you could stops. I. First off, Matt and

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Speaker 1: I are probably the closest up there on the set together,

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Speaker 1: so don't go try to drive. You can say that,

710
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Speaker 1: you can say that publicly what we talk about behind

711
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Speaker 1: the scenes. My bad should have stayed off the record.

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Speaker 1: By the way. By the way, Dan, thanks for the

713
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Speaker 1: Christmas card. It really was heartfelt. But you decided to

714
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Speaker 1: reach out and said us a Christmas card. You were welcome.

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Speaker 1: You are welcome. I can't keep we are I can't

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Speaker 1: keep track of all the houses that you have. You know,

717
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: you're all over the place, all the places you played,

718
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Speaker 1: you know, that's like ten places. So you got a

719
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Speaker 1: house in Seattle and who knows, La Florida, Ohio. Yeah,

720
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Speaker 1: that was actually I never owned a place in Seattle,

721
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Speaker 1: but that was probably the most difficult moving out from

722
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Speaker 1: that place because the place I was bringing the landlord

723
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Speaker 1: was really upset about it. And I remember saying to

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Speaker 1: the landlord, I like, you think you're upset, Like I've

725
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Speaker 1: never been cut before, how do you think I feel

726
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Speaker 1: like I've been in the NFL seven years now, it's

727
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Speaker 1: the first time I've been cut. I'm almost thirty, like,

728
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Speaker 1: how do you think I'm feeling? You think I'm worried

729
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Speaker 1: about whether or not, like you get your deposit back.

730
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Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm trying to figure my life out

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Speaker 1: right now, you know. But this landlord was like, oh, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know now, we''re not trying to get on the least.

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'm not living here anymore, but

734
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Speaker 1: play for chats like give me a break. Can you

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Speaker 1: please have a little sympathy for the situation. Thank you, budd,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us, and have fun in Ohio. Well

737
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Speaker 1: do thank you man. That's Brady Quinn, two pros and

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Speaker 1: a cup of Joe LeVar Arrington Jonas Knucks. Hey, it's Ben,

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755
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Speaker 1: because then he went on a drum solo and it

756
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Speaker 1: went for like twenty minutes and I went, I think

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Page, while he's a great guitar player, not a

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Speaker 1: charismatic guitar player. But it was Zeppelin, Yeah, Pauline, you

760
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Speaker 1: see Zeppelin multiple times? Or was it on once? How

761
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Speaker 1: were you just out of high school? So that was

762
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Speaker 1: peak Zeppelin defense Yeah, yeah. And the Stones I saw them.

763
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Speaker 1: It was peake Zeppelin in the seventies. I saw Stone, Zeppelin,

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Speaker 1: Who Bowie and Aerosmith. So, you know, pretty good run

765
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Speaker 1: there of seeing bands when they were at their peak,

766
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Speaker 1: or at least the perception was they were at their peak. Yes,

767
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Speaker 1: point back in the seventies when you went to a concert,

768
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Speaker 1: was it the tradition of they wrap up their set,

769
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Speaker 1: you clap, and they come back out. Was that always

770
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Speaker 1: even back then an encore? Yeah, but we had festival seating,

771
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: and that's what was different because you'd line up, you'd

772
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Speaker 1: get there early, and then first come, first serve, which

773
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Speaker 1: I don't know who came up with that, but you have.

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Speaker 1: And of course I had tickets to that Fateful night

775
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Speaker 1: when eleven people died in Cincinnati trying to get into

776
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Speaker 1: the Who concert. You know, that's another one that they

777
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Speaker 1: had two entrances and people were storming the doors to

778
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Speaker 1: get in and eleven people died. Eight seven seven three

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Speaker 1: d P Show Email andres SDP at dan Patrick dot com,

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Speaker 1: Twitter handle at dp show update the poll results. Then

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Speaker 1: we'll get to the pomputer. Mike Florio, Okay, which team

782
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Speaker 1: is least set at quarterback? Your choice is being the

783
00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: New York Giants, Detroit Lions, Carolina Panthers, Texans. Oh, I

784
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: mean we put the Eagles on there and the Washington's

785
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: on there too, yep. And the winner is the Texans,

786
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: followed closely by the Steelers. Yeah, but we know that

787
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Speaker 1: the Texans are going to have a new quarterback. It's

788
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Speaker 1: when you have a quarterback and you're not quite sure

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Speaker 1: if he is the quarterback. So take the Texans out.

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Speaker 1: We have to put Washington in. Yeah, because the Saints

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Speaker 1: don't feel like they're set. The Giants don't feel like

792
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Speaker 1: they're set, even though they have it. The Lions don't

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Speaker 1: feel like they're set. It's bringing Mike Florio Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Talk Live, co host Football Night in America. More teams

795
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Speaker 1: who are set at quarterback or not set at quarterback

796
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Speaker 1: for the future. Oh more that are. But every year

797
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: now we're seeing this churn of teams who are deciding, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have a guy who's good enough, but we can

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Speaker 1: do better. We want one of the best guys. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna upgrade from the guy we have who's maybe on

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Speaker 1: the fringes of the top twenty, and we're gonna go

802
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Speaker 1: try to get somebody better, whether it's through the draft,

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Speaker 1: get yourself in position to get one of these rookies

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Speaker 1: that comes in and takes the league by store, or

805
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Speaker 1: make a big play for one of the big names.

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00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: It's going to be out there this year, whether it's

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson to Shaun Watson. So I think

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Speaker 1: that teams are more willing than ever before to give

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Speaker 1: up the bird in the hand, even if the bird

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Speaker 1: in the hand isn't all that bad. Well, I wonder

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Speaker 1: what the Lions do if Kenny Pickett grades out as

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Speaker 1: he's the best quarterback and the Lions are on the

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Speaker 1: clock number one pick. You have Jared Goff, But do

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Speaker 1: you pass on Kenny Pickett? I think he Look if

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Speaker 1: Pickett is the guy and the Lions have that pick,

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Speaker 1: I think that's what they have to do. Not that

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Speaker 1: having Matthew Stafford for a decade made much of a difference,

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Speaker 1: but this is a team that is trying to completely

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Speaker 1: rebuild identity, change culture in a dramatic way. It's not

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Speaker 1: just Dan Campbell. It goes all the way to Chris Spielman.

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Speaker 1: He's the guy who's kind of the overlooked straw that

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Speaker 1: is stirring that drink, the old school mentality, that's where

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Speaker 1: the bite your kneecaps comes. It doesn't come from Campbell,

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Speaker 1: it comes from Spielman. So Goff and that guy. Goff

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Speaker 1: was the guy that they took on in order to

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Speaker 1: get two first round picks and a third round pick

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Speaker 1: from the Rams as part of the Stafford deal, Goff,

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Speaker 1: you get an extra first round or if you take

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Speaker 1: this guy off of our hands and take his contract.

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Speaker 1: So I think they have to be looking quarterback. Goff

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Speaker 1: is clearly not the guy. And if pick it is,

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Speaker 1: pull the trigger and off you go. I wonder, Mike

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00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: if Russell, Wilson and the Seahawks maybe have a formula

834
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Speaker 1: that's similar to what the Lions and Matthew Stafford had,

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Speaker 1: and that is, let's just agree to part. Can you

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Speaker 1: send me to one of these teams and get the

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Speaker 1: most in return. Let's work together on this and maybe

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Speaker 1: have something behind the scenes where it's amicable sort of.

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Speaker 1: And you guys go in your opposite directions. What do

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Speaker 1: you think? Well? I agree, and I think that Russell

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00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: has been trying to do that the way that things

842
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: got kicked up last year in the offseason. He comes

843
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: on your show and it's obvious he's not happy. At

844
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Speaker 1: that point, his agent says, my client doesn't want to

845
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: be traded, but if he were to be traded, he

846
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: would accept the trade to the Bears, the Cowboys, the Raiders,

847
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: are the Saints. I mean, it's obvious where this is going.

848
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: I think it's premature to start identifying teams. I know

849
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: there was some reporting last week to that effect. There's

850
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: a lot that has to happen before we know where

851
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: coaches are going to be, where quarterbacks are or aren't

852
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: going to be. But I agree with you the time

853
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: has come for a big decision to be made in Seattle.

854
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: Whether that's we're going to move on from the coach

855
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: and bring in somebody who's hand picked to make Russell happy,

856
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: or whether it's we're going to keep the coach and

857
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna let Russell move on or both. We're just

858
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: gonna hit the reset button and start over. And I

859
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: think what happens the next four weeks, Stan is going

860
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: to be a factor in that because they still have

861
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: a chance to get over five hundred. They have a

862
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: chance to sneak into the postseason field. Much different vibe.

863
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: If that's the end result of this season, then what

864
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: it looked like a couple of weeks ago when they

865
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 1: were in crash and burn territory. Any games in being postponed, No,

866
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: absolutely not, because the league's not going to do it.

867
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: They're not going to do it. The Commissioner said at

868
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: Wednesday they are not going to postpone these games. And

869
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: one thing I'm trying to find out, and the league

870
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: is being very elusive on this, shockingly, what is the

871
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 1: minimum number of players that a team is expected to

872
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: put in uniform? Forty eight is the maximum that you

873
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: can have on game day? You got sixty nine on

874
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 1: the roster, so you already have a twenty one person buffer.

875
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: So when I hear ten guys on COVID, fifteen guys

876
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: on COVID, you've got the ability to call up all

877
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: of your practice squad guys. You can still get to

878
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: forty eight. Once you start getting below forty eight, forty five,

879
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: forty thirty five. Where's that number? It's almost like a

880
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: reverse prices right game? Where's that number? Where the NFL

881
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: says that's not enough, where the Union says that's not enough.

882
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: And would they postpone a game if the Browns have

883
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: fewer than thirty players who can dress? I don't know,

884
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: and the league won't say. And part of me thinks

885
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: Dan that they've got double secret procedure that they would

886
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: invoke where basically they can pull guys out of the

887
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: stands and put them in uniform to get the games in.

888
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: Because they're getting the games in. That's one thing that's clear.

889
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 1: They're not giving up the ticket money, they're not giving

890
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: up the TV money. And Dan this Brown's Raiders game especially,

891
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: it's one of the NFL Network exclusive games. They have

892
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: a minimum number of games that have to be exclusive

893
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: to the NFL Network to justify the subscription rates for

894
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: cable satellite streaming. They got to have that game on there.

895
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: They are playing these games. The question is how good

896
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: will these games be, how many guys will be in uniform. Yeah,

897
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure this out. It felt like

898
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: there was a disconnect with the NFL and the NFL

899
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: Players Association. So what is the solution you think that

900
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna Are they able to come to some kind

901
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: of agreement that over the final month of the regular season,

902
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: this is what we're going to do when it comes

903
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: to COVID, Well, they've reached an agreement on the return

904
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: to play ability for a player who is vaccinated, asymptomatic

905
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: and positive. What you need to do to come back.

906
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: It's not as stringent. It doesn't take as long to

907
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: come back. Now. Look, I've been saying for weeks now

908
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: that if a player is vaccinated and positive and totally asymptomatic,

909
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 1: there's no reason to keep him from playing. We've gotten

910
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: to the point in this pandemic where we can evolve

911
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: our thinking to a point where we say they're not

912
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: transmitting it on the field. Look at all the fans

913
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: in the stands. There haven't been outbreaks. Fans are in

914
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: the stands and surely plenty of them are positive. And

915
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: you know how the masks are worn, dip down over

916
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: the chin, and it's not a problem. It doesn't transmit

917
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: in stadiums, it doesn't transmit in domes. It's not a

918
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 1: problem there. And at some point they need to address

919
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: that because the idea that you have healthy players who

920
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: just happen to be positive for this virus, who are vaccinated,

921
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: that you're just not going to let him play. That

922
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: undermines the integrity of the game. How can it not

923
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: if you're not going to have the best players available

924
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: for reasons unrelated to injury or true actual illness. That's

925
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: where this needs to move in twenty twenty two. I

926
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: doubt that it gets there this year, but that's where

927
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: this has to go, because we know this thing isn't

928
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: going anywhere. Mike Floyal, Pro Football Talk Live co host

929
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: who would get a head coaching job sooner? Urban Meyer?

930
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: John Gruden? Which league? And l's coming back? Yeah, look,

931
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: I think that that it'd be easier for urban Meyer

932
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: just because he didn't leave with that same stain of

933
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: the language in the emails that Gruden had to walk

934
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 1: out the door, basically tattooed to his resume forever. Meyer

935
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: still denies, for example, kicking kicker Josh Lambo, He denies

936
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: getting into a heated argument with Marvin Jones. He denies

937
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 1: calling his assistant coach as a loser. So it's harder

938
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: to wrap your hands around one thing that urban Meyer

939
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: did that makes him permanently and forever toxic. And he's

940
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: got I'm look, he deserved to be fired. He never

941
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: should have been an NFL head coach. But he's one

942
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: of the great college coaches of all time. And there's

943
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: a lot of college programs out there, and there's going

944
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: to be somebody that's thinking, hey, we may get this

945
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: guy right place, right time, and he comes in for

946
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: a final act of his career of redemption that makes

947
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 1: us a hell of a lot of money along the way.

948
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: This just in that Taylor Heinicke and Kyle Allen now

949
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: on the COVID list, So I guess it's Garrett Gilbert

950
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 1: who's going to be This is why that point spread

951
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 1: has gone from four to ten against the Eagles. This

952
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: is what you're gonna have on National TV. Kyle Schermer

953
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: is another quarterback that they have, Garett Gilbert, one of

954
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: the many backup quarterbacks out there where you can interchange

955
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: the last name in the first name and it all

956
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: makes sense. And when you're down to that level of quarterback,

957
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: you have a problem. But it dan the league doesn't care.

958
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: They don't care that it's going to be a debacle

959
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: of a game. They don't care that it's going to

960
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: be fatal potentially to Washington's playoff hopes. They're not going

961
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: to move that game. They're not going to do anything

962
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: to jeopardize the flow of cash into the conference. It's

963
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: that simple, and it's it's unfortunate, but that's their current

964
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: attitude and approach, and it just doesn't fit with the

965
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: current state of the pandemic where this latest variant apparently

966
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: is ridiculously contagious, but also dron Rivera said today on

967
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: radio and DC that eighty percent of his guys who

968
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: are positive have no symptoms at all. Is there any

969
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: update on Deshaun Watson. There is, and I'm glad you

970
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: asked about him, because he's been forgotten since the trade

971
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: deadline came and went. They're expecting some sort of a

972
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: resolution to the grand jury proceeding by the end of January,

973
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: and that kind of fits with the NFL's offseason timeline.

974
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: Although the quarterback carousel get started mid to late January,

975
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: we saw it last year with Matthew Stafford. Teams are

976
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: going to start making decisions. It could be misdemeanor charges

977
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: that ultimately were filed against the Shawn Watson, not felonies,

978
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: which would be a difference from the league's standpoint. But

979
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: as to the civil lawsuits, I was told last night,

980
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: and this is how close that the Miami Dolphins came

981
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: to getting to Shaun Watson, because the Dolphins wanted these

982
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: civil lawsuits to be resolved. There were twenty two of them.

983
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: Eighteen of the plaintiffs were ready to go, four of

984
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: them held out, and that's what derailed the settlements, and

985
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: that's what derailed the trade to Miami Miami wanted them

986
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: all gone. They weren't content to have eighteen gone and

987
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: four left. They wanted them all gone. If those last

988
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: four had come around, he'd be a dolphin right now.

989
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: But his two will playing himself into that franchise quarterback

990
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: role here TWA did what he needed to do. He

991
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: was upset about the ongoing distraction and the talk and

992
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: the chatter, and he wouldn't go away. Well once the

993
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: trade deadline went away, then the talk ended, and Tua

994
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: has strung one win after another together and now they're

995
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: going to have a tougher decision to make. You know,

996
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: his durability is what concerns me over the long haul,

997
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: but he's playing better. He did what he needed to do.

998
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: You know what, if you don't like the fact that

999
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: they're talking about Deshaun Watson, go out there and be

1000
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. Be better than Deshaun Watson. That's the Tom

1001
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: Brady attitude. Get a chip on your shorter and a

1002
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: stick up your ass, and go out there and play

1003
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: better and make them unable to consider bringing in a

1004
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: better quarterback because you are the better quarterback. The Mothership

1005
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: reported that it's unlikely. According to sources, Diana Rossini's saying

1006
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: this that your good buddy Aaron Rodgers won't be back

1007
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: with the Packers. I don't know what that means, that

1008
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: even if he wins the Super Bowl that he's not

1009
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: coming back. Is this Rogers decision, Packers decision, mutual decision,

1010
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: any decision at all, Mike. I mean, we entered this

1011
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: season as if it was his last year. Yeah, we've

1012
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: known this. It's going to take something big to reverse it.

1013
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: And like, what, well, I really do? Can you, if

1014
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: you are Aaron Rodgers and you are extremely sensitive about

1015
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: how you're perceived by the fan base, can you win

1016
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and say see you later? Maybe you can?

1017
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they're fine with it. Hey, thank you, you

1018
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: gave us one on the way out the door via condos,

1019
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: and just don't go play for another team in our

1020
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: division or in our conference. I just think that, just

1021
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 1: like with Russell Wilson, the end result to this year

1022
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: is going to be a factor in whether or not

1023
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: it continues. Now we know next year will be the

1024
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: last year because of his contract, because he becomes a

1025
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: free agent after twenty twenty two. But we went into

1026
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: this year assuming that this is it, and you know,

1027
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: the whole the vaccine thing, and I've been immunized in

1028
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: the district, but they're still really good and they got

1029
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: a glimpse of Jordan Love. And I'd want to keep

1030
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I'd want to find a way to make

1031
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: him happy and keep him around. I mean, for all

1032
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: the headaches that he brings, he's still one of the

1033
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the NFL. Why would you want to

1034
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: move on from him? Why would you not want to

1035
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: do everything you could to convince him to stick around?

1036
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 1: Why would you want to leave that division if you're

1037
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, right? I mean, well, Minnesota is stuck in neutral,

1038
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: the Bears aren't good, the Lions aren't good, and you know,

1039
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: do I I think he ends up in Denver, you know,

1040
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: I think they've geared up for this and maybe that's

1041
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: where you know he wants to go. But it feels

1042
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: like you're gonna have Deshaun Watson, Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers.

1043
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: And you know, those are pretty good prizes. If you

1044
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: don't get one, you get another one there. But I

1045
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: just feel like Rogers is going to be a good

1046
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: soldier through everything you asked me to do, and you know, Comember,

1047
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: you had guys who covered the path on a daily basis.

1048
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: Rod Dumovski covers them for the Mothership said five percent

1049
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: chance he was coming back, and I went, he's coming back.

1050
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: The question is how long does he stay? And I

1051
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: think we were in agreement even going to be there

1052
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: one year. No matter what happens this year, let's not

1053
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: rule out this possibility, Dan, that we're being drifted by

1054
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, that he just wants to be the topic

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Speaker 1: of conversation, that he wants us to be talking about him,

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Speaker 1: that he wants to be the center of attention. And

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Speaker 1: maybe he ultimately does come back to the Packers next year.

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Speaker 1: And if so, mission accomplished. Hang the banner behind George W. Bush.

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Speaker 1: Mission accomplished. Really and truthfully, he is the center of attention.

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Speaker 1: We talk about him all the time. I mean, look

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Speaker 1: at his toe injury. He's pissed off because people on

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff supposedly or telling people bout He's showing

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Speaker 1: the damn thing on camera. Every time he talks, he's

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Speaker 1: talking about his toe injury. Hey, everybody, I have a

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Speaker 1: broken toe. He's almost as bad as Ben Roethlisberger and

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Speaker 1: speaking of Roethlisberger. I mean, I'm intrigued by the Steelers

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Speaker 1: as a destination for Rogers, because why would you go

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Speaker 1: to Denver? Didn't you watch the game last night? They

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Speaker 1: got Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert in that division. But

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Speaker 1: but boy, the idea of Aaron Rodgers just about one

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Speaker 1: hundred miles up the road for me. I could go

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Speaker 1: up and have a permanny sandwich with him once a

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Speaker 1: week and hang out because you two are buddies. Buddies,

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Speaker 1: you can know what's funny. Dan. He and I have

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Speaker 1: a lot more in common than he would ever admit.

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Speaker 1: I understand him because I'm a lot like him, hopefully well,

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Speaker 1: not not in the football way and not necessarily in

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Speaker 1: the good personality traite way. So you're both know at all,

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Speaker 1: exactly exactly, both married. You want to see my toe? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you both love to talk about Aaron Rodgers. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But for business, oh my god, you should have seen

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Speaker 1: our numbers for November. He's great for business, Aaron I said,

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Speaker 1: I said during the height of the whole, I'm immunized

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Speaker 1: and all that other stuff. I hope he never retires.

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Speaker 1: I hope he's stay with the Packers. Until he's sixty.

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Speaker 1: I hope it's every year, this drama. He's great for business.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Mike. Great to talk to you, all right,

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Speaker 1: You too, buddy. That's Mike Florio. He's not afraid. Pro

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