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Speaker 5: To look it up again.
Speaker 4: But it is warm, and there's not a lot of
Speaker 4: wind or a lot of cloud covers.
Speaker 5: So and it's a little humid.
Speaker 4: So it is warm hot, not like it is an
Speaker 4: OX starred. I will let Jesse roll with this and
Speaker 4: then we'll welcome our against.
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Speaker 7: We before we get into the show, yes, before we
Speaker 7: get into this Wednesday. You know, Wednesday's therapy day.
Speaker 6: So I got it. I haven't done it, Chuck in
Speaker 6: a while.
Speaker 7: I haven't how the mentals and the dentals, Kurt.
Speaker 8: Well, I went to the dentist, you know, Okay, you
Speaker 8: gotta get.
Speaker 5: Very familiar.
Speaker 8: Everything is good.
Speaker 6: Dentals are good, Shannon, Mentals and dentals.
Speaker 5: Dentals are really good. Went a week and a half,
Speaker 5: two weeks, a couple of weeks ago. Good there, mentally sound.
Speaker 5: I'm in good shake man Nate.
Speaker 6: Mentals and dentals.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Gentles, all right, yeah did.
Speaker 5: You say, Gentles?
Speaker 6: Okay, Jazz you in the back. Mentals and dentals good,
Speaker 6: very great, good cool. Mentals are good. How are you here?
Speaker 7: Mental is a good over here. Dentals not so much.
Speaker 7: I gotta go get a wisdom teeth pool wisdom.
Speaker 9: Don't do that. Don't do that. Just last dude, I
Speaker 9: know you had some wisdom tooth po they lost it all.
Speaker 9: They crazy, so you.
Speaker 6: Said, Charles Haley.
Speaker 7: So but yeah, so I gotta I gotta, I gotta
Speaker 7: figure out like the proper timing. I think I'm gonna
Speaker 7: do that week right after the last preseason game because
Speaker 7: it gives me a couple of men before I have
Speaker 7: to kind of get into the series.
Speaker 6: I'm not talking.
Speaker 7: So because it's it's chipped and so they're gonna probably
Speaker 7: have to cut the gum get it. So I'm waiting
Speaker 7: till that moment in time because I'm gonna need a
Speaker 7: probably a day or two yeah to talk.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, I'm gonna try.
Speaker 7: To get a Friday appointment so that way I could
Speaker 7: do Friday appointment Saturday Sunday and then hopefully be back
Speaker 7: fully functioned.
Speaker 4: Let me know how that goes, because I got I
Speaker 4: have a cavity online on the lower but it's mine's
Speaker 4: so jammed up.
Speaker 5: My wisdom tooth is so jammed up.
Speaker 4: They were like, we can't get to it to fill it,
Speaker 4: so just wait until it bothers you and.
Speaker 5: Then we'll just pull it out. We'll just take it out.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, Okay, Well, hopefully it bothers me after
Speaker 4: the first of the year when I get some it
Speaker 4: fits back on my insurance because if not, that's probably
Speaker 4: like a couple of grand to get that joker pulled out.
Speaker 6: So all right, we're good.
Speaker 4: Glad y'all are good. Good, So Nate, give us an update? Man,
Speaker 4: what what's going on? Like it's I fell out of
Speaker 4: the loop. I need I need you to tell me
Speaker 4: what are the what are the hot stories today?
Speaker 9: Uh? Look you see Tyler guy put two nice days
Speaker 9: back to back. He had a good day yes A
Speaker 9: lot of people trying to say great. I say, had
Speaker 9: a good day yesterday. And to see, one thing has
Speaker 9: been very consistent is our linebackers and and DB's I've
Speaker 9: been just robbing our quarterbacks. Our quarterbacks, whether it's Dad,
Speaker 9: Cooper the other guy, they've been getting the interceptions have
Speaker 9: just been coming in and two's and it ain't coming
Speaker 9: one here one day's two here, two there. I mean
Speaker 9: back to back. People are showing our young Jan helped
Speaker 9: me with that name, yan Way one way one. Thomas,
Speaker 9: well he picked one off some nice yesterday. It's just
Speaker 9: set the whole training camp off. That is a good
Speaker 9: thing to see. Now. One thing when they first opened
Speaker 9: up the team inside run, well, we had a number
Speaker 9: fifty nine Margarets and a linebacker come down. Young got
Speaker 9: thumping up in there. So we noticed real quick that
Speaker 9: we have true linebackers in there. Now people fill in
Speaker 9: the gap, bringing the heat to the to the guards
Speaker 9: and centers. It's just a great thing. Marzi is beached up,
Speaker 9: he's getting quicker off of the snash, but he's still
Speaker 9: sometime letting one guy block him. And we can never
Speaker 9: have that, never have one guy blocking Marzia. That always
Speaker 9: has to be two linebackers can be affected. The wide
Speaker 9: receivers are doing okay, but they need to get a
Speaker 9: little better connection with their quarterbacks, or the quarterbacks need
Speaker 9: to be a little bit more shoppered with their anticipation
Speaker 9: with their throws. But one thing is being consistent with
Speaker 9: this camp. In this early camp, these guys are moving quickly.
Speaker 9: Guys seem to know what they're doing. The center position.
Speaker 9: Hoffman ain't gonna give it up easy, fellas. He's battling
Speaker 9: in there pretty hard.
Speaker 5: I did a terrible job.
Speaker 9: He got his work cut out.
Speaker 4: I did a terrible job of setting that up first
Speaker 4: day practice with yesterday.
Speaker 5: So after you got about half that, I should have said.
Speaker 6: Hello, Churs before you go. I do want to. I
Speaker 6: want to.
Speaker 7: I want Nate to go back and address another because
Speaker 7: I think this is I mean, our show is one
Speaker 7: of the shows that we're extremely afforded the luxury to
Speaker 7: have a guy who's been a six time Pro Bowler,
Speaker 7: three time Super Bowl champion to speak about. Offensive line,
Speaker 7: to me, is the most difficult position to talk about
Speaker 7: because I don't care who you are, how much you've
Speaker 7: been in the game, how much film you watch and study.
Speaker 7: If you ain't in them trenches, you don't really know
Speaker 7: what go down in them trenches. Like offensive lineman, it's
Speaker 7: one of the hardest positions to actually judge and watch
Speaker 7: to talk about. So, Nate, I want to just I
Speaker 7: want to go back to the Tyler Guidon situation. Okay,
Speaker 7: all right, so we're good. We're on the same page,
Speaker 7: me and Kurts on the same page. I just want
Speaker 7: you one to Tyler guy in the rookie left tackle
Speaker 7: the Cowboys dropped out of Oklahoma this year. You know,
Speaker 7: people talk about his size right six foot seven, three
Speaker 7: hundred and twenty five pounds, but what has been praised
Speaker 7: a lot is just his nimbleness, his dancing bare feet.
Speaker 7: Can you go into a little bit more when you're
Speaker 7: talking about that left tackle position. What are some of
Speaker 7: the positive attributes that you want a left tackle like
Speaker 7: that to have?
Speaker 9: The number one thing is you want him to have
Speaker 9: to shoot and hips combine and the ability to bend
Speaker 9: his knees. Uh, it's kind of one thing, but it's
Speaker 9: three different parts. You know, quick feet, the ability to
Speaker 9: bend his knees, and to bend his hills after he's
Speaker 9: able to bend his knees. Because the change of direction,
Speaker 9: that is, that is the key. A guy can take
Speaker 9: you upfield, upfield, upfield, dip the shoulder, twist the hips,
Speaker 9: you know, batch your hands down and all of a
Speaker 9: sudden he'll lock you into that up to fiel up
Speaker 9: the field. Then he'll spend back inside and catch you
Speaker 9: with his inside on and launch yourself into the quarterback.
Speaker 9: This kid has shown that against Parsons, against a few
Speaker 9: other guys demark Laws, that he can adjust to falling
Speaker 9: back inside with some viciousness and close off that inside
Speaker 9: rush when they try to spend back inside. That is
Speaker 9: what's been amazing everybody. And how he can get off
Speaker 9: the snap count, even though Parsons times is just right.
Speaker 9: Sometimes he can get off the snap count and still
Speaker 9: getting in on this guy and running him around the quarterback.
Speaker 9: So that is what he's been doing to amaze a
Speaker 9: lot of people, and he's been doing it without that
Speaker 9: perfect technique that I'm seeking. I need that technique to
Speaker 9: get involved with those good feet. I need him not
Speaker 9: to lean, not to get over zealous and get too aggressive,
Speaker 9: because you were if you were game planning, and that's
Speaker 9: some of the things they would look for. But this
Speaker 9: is early in camp. He is trying to adjust to
Speaker 9: the speed of what he's seeing now, so you put
Speaker 9: up with these little inefficiencies. But I think this kid,
Speaker 9: he continues to work. We don't know how where he
Speaker 9: can go because we won't know until we go one
Speaker 9: hundred miles an hour. Right now, they run about fifty
Speaker 9: sixty miles an hour, but you know, pre season'll round
Speaker 9: about sixty seventy miles an hour, and then when the
Speaker 9: season start, it's one hundred and ten out there on
Speaker 9: the on the freeway. So we'll see he's getting better. Uh,
Speaker 9: And I know coach Hlaarry is pushing that technique, pushing
Speaker 9: that technique, pushing that technique.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what I was wanting to know, because you
Speaker 8: had said he was good. Well most of us seem
Speaker 8: to be hearing he's great, so good.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but these guys are telling you he is great.
Speaker 9: You know they they good at Matt. They played Matt. Yeah,
Speaker 9: they played Matt and they take n C two I
Speaker 9: two whatever. They call k Y eight thousand whatever his name.
Speaker 5: Is Kisehole conversation.
Speaker 6: For this yeah the show.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, to stay on the Tyler Guidon conversation with
Speaker 7: evaluating tackles and a lot of times offensive linemen in general,
Speaker 7: you hear about arm.
Speaker 6: Length, armless, armless, armless, and you know, a tackle to
Speaker 6: have the long arms, the long arms.
Speaker 7: What what give the people a a a more dumbed
Speaker 7: down version of the importance of your tackles and your
Speaker 7: interior offensive lineman being able to have long arms, and
Speaker 7: what does that mean in a positive way for them?
Speaker 9: When you have long arms, the quickly you can get
Speaker 9: your hands on a defensive end, Uh, the quicker you
Speaker 9: can make him change directions. What you try to do
Speaker 9: is just like in basketball. Uh, what you when you
Speaker 9: got and you lose? Luca, Luca. What I want to
Speaker 9: do with Luca is I want to get him at
Speaker 9: the top of the key in the back court, you know,
Speaker 9: in the front court. I want to get him when
Speaker 9: he receives the ball inbount I want to catch him
Speaker 9: right at the top of the key. I want to
Speaker 9: make him go side to side, side to side well
Speaker 9: with a tackle. If you got long arms, what you're
Speaker 9: trying to do with that devins of men is make him,
Speaker 9: make him take a stutter step, make him change direction,
Speaker 9: because every time they change the record, that's the split second. More.
Speaker 9: You have to protect your quarterback. So that's what long
Speaker 9: arms do. But if you got short arms and a
Speaker 9: guy can get into your chest or get into it,
Speaker 9: make you bend your elbows. Now the power rushes come
Speaker 9: into effect. Now the spins come into the especially the
Speaker 9: spin with the hook with the elbow. So but if
Speaker 9: you got long arms, you can just keep that guy
Speaker 9: at bay. And if he spins, you just use your
Speaker 9: hands to pit upad it and he when he turned
Speaker 9: around you still facing him instead of him hooking you.
Speaker 9: Long arms is the key to all of this. Especially
Speaker 9: if you have nimble feet, a guy can never get
Speaker 9: up on you. And with a left tackle, you don't
Speaker 9: have to be the most physical guy. It helps when
Speaker 9: you got somebody like that at the forty nine ers
Speaker 9: at b step with the forty nine ers got to
Speaker 9: help us when they're physical. But you do not I've
Speaker 9: seen guys pray forever in this league. They were not
Speaker 9: the most physical guys, but they can read direct guys
Speaker 9: with them long arms and nice feet.
Speaker 8: So what what are you saying from the other rookie,
Speaker 8: Cooper Bee one?
Speaker 9: Uh? Cooper bb Uh. He's got those short arms, which
Speaker 9: I don't think hurts as much on the inside. But
Speaker 9: but if you don't be a a perfectionist with your technique. Now,
Speaker 9: he's heavier than Hoffman and I'm a little more sturdier
Speaker 9: built in the bottom. But Toffling right now is beating
Speaker 9: him with technique. And I'm talking about for us, the
Speaker 9: competition's beating with technique and just knowing what they're doing
Speaker 9: being a little more comfortable. Bb is still got to
Speaker 9: perfect his long snaps or his short snaps to the quarterback.
Speaker 9: He has to get comfortable with that, and I think
Speaker 9: they just making sure that he can do this right here.
Speaker 9: So every time they give him a snap, it's a
Speaker 9: learning session for him. Because even though you're not going
Speaker 9: against the first team, these guys are better than what
Speaker 9: you faced in college. You just ain't gonna be tossing
Speaker 9: these guys out of the out of the out of
Speaker 9: the off the dance floor is easy. You do the
Speaker 9: guys and cotage. So he's still learning. It's a it's
Speaker 9: a battle there. He's looking okay. All the young guys
Speaker 9: are looking okay. But yesterday they went past rush one
Speaker 9: versus one, two versus two, and I hate that because
Speaker 9: you never get a chance to see, uh these better
Speaker 9: pass rushes. Maybe they'll do it a little a little different.
Speaker 9: Number sixty two Nathan Thomas. He looked okay at times.
Speaker 9: Earl Bostik looked okay to tackle at times, look okay.
Speaker 9: Bash was a little out of coordination. He wasn't believing
Speaker 9: his eyes. He was short setting a guy. And what
Speaker 9: I mean by that he was going forward as a
Speaker 9: guy real quick during the past that and giving up
Speaker 9: the inside when he ain't had to really move it all.
Speaker 9: I didn't do it just jamming because he was so
Speaker 9: close to him. But you know, the guys got to
Speaker 9: get their eyes and hand and foot coordination all working,
Speaker 9: and that'll happen more as camp going.
Speaker 6: To me, Doga.
Speaker 7: He left the practice field yesterday with a parent something.
Speaker 7: I mean, that's why we got a little bit more
Speaker 7: of that action between Tyler Guidon and Michael Parsons and others.
Speaker 7: Is there anything that you've seen with Touma? Is there
Speaker 7: a battle there at left tackle?
Speaker 6: You know, and the extent of of what his injury
Speaker 6: might have been.
Speaker 9: Uh, they they they what they do Jesse is depending
Speaker 9: on the drill the team one time a doga start,
Speaker 9: then guiding a start and then but they quickly rotate
Speaker 9: one another. But Guiden is a journeyman. I mean excoose
Speaker 9: Medga is a journeyman. That's all he is. That's all
Speaker 9: he'll ever be. Uh, He's He's a guy that I'll
Speaker 9: played thirty five snaps and come up hurt. Like he
Speaker 9: walked out of practice yesterday. I don't know what the
Speaker 9: injury was. But that's the doga. That's it. That's him
Speaker 9: during the season. Remember last year the training camp, he
Speaker 9: missed all of training camp. I mean, but he was
Speaker 9: there for some of the games. He'll come in, he'll
Speaker 9: do a nice job. You're filling guy. I mean we
Speaker 9: need to get into filling Shanns teeth in the back.
Speaker 9: Back there. He'll be just fit fine back there and
Speaker 9: everything will be okay.
Speaker 6: That's what we needed. A doga in Shannon's mouth. That's
Speaker 6: fill it up.
Speaker 10: Up.
Speaker 5: We gotta take our first break. Nate, you hanging on
Speaker 5: with us?
Speaker 9: Yes, I hang on another segment. Thank you?
Speaker 4: All right, We'll go to be back with Nate Newton
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Speaker 5: We have more questions.
Speaker 4: I want to know what the quarterback situation is looking like,
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Speaker 4: All right, Nate, more insight. Since you're out there on site, Jesse,
Speaker 4: what are you heading out?
Speaker 6: Oh, let me tell you right now.
Speaker 4: Good Jesse will check on that he's going to be
Speaker 4: out there. Uh, at the same time Nate will be
Speaker 4: so Me and Kurt will be in Stude.
Speaker 5: That'll be an interesting show. Let's figure out how to
Speaker 5: do that. We'll figure out. Maybe we'll just let you
Speaker 5: guys have it at camp. I don't know. I need
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Speaker 4: Bucks Agust tenth, August the tenths for how long?
Speaker 5: Three days? So you get one or two shows depending
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Speaker 4: All right, Nate, the world wants to know that what
Speaker 4: are you hearing on contract talks? I've heard, we've heard
Speaker 4: it here in Dallas that they're they've been throwing offers
Speaker 4: back and forth with CD and talks are cordial. Uh,
Speaker 4: we haven't heard much on the Dack front field. Me
Speaker 4: in on what you're hearing on the contract talks. I
Speaker 4: know you're probably gonna say, is what it is? You
Speaker 4: don't really get into that talk.
Speaker 5: No, No, you tell me what you're seeing on the field.
Speaker 4: I want to know what's going on at the at
Speaker 4: the QB position and who's getting the.
Speaker 9: Backup reps about my field? Is this here? Is they
Speaker 9: get more play with CD? You know, CD responded Sunday night.
Speaker 9: You know they they threw it off the Saturday Friday
Speaker 9: Saturday CD people responded back, Uh, CD won in, he
Speaker 9: won in. You know you want to keep the zing over.
Speaker 9: Nothing not the same. But Dak, they responded to Dak,
Speaker 9: And Dak then hasn't responded back. Mister Jones, Stephen Jones
Speaker 9: haven't said that he's responded back.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 9: I think when when Dak have said this twice, he
Speaker 9: don't know what his future is here with the Cowboys
Speaker 9: is somewhere he said that twice, and he and he
Speaker 9: and he hasn't stopped practicing. Well, he's still leading his
Speaker 9: troops out there every day. But I think his mindset
Speaker 9: is I'm gonna be the best quarterback I can be
Speaker 9: in this training camp going into the season, hoping he
Speaker 9: gonna better on the self fellas. I think that's what
Speaker 9: he's gonna do, because I think Dak instead fast, he
Speaker 9: won't he wants it all, you know. And I'm not
Speaker 9: saying Cee don't want it all. I'm not saying Parsons
Speaker 9: don't want it all. But you know, we're not getting
Speaker 9: the response back from Dak like we have over the years. Fast.
Speaker 9: He's not responding back. So but he's out there doing
Speaker 9: his thing. And and those other quarterbacks, Uh, Dak may
Speaker 9: throw one interception and other quarterbacks are throwing multiple interceptioning,
Speaker 9: so they ain't. It ain't like they you know, it
Speaker 9: ain't like they're in the subplant. This guy, I mean,
Speaker 9: Cooper Rush is Cooper Rush and Trey Lances yet the
Speaker 9: step past Cooper Rush in my eyes, like y'all, I'm
Speaker 9: not a quarterback goog which it's just come out just
Speaker 9: to give y'all a better opinion on these quarterbacks than
Speaker 9: I can.
Speaker 8: But I like sounds like Lance has been disappointing so far.
Speaker 9: You have you haven't heard anything, Kurt. I mean, uh,
Speaker 9: no one is bringing it up, No one is, you know,
Speaker 9: I mean, y'all know how it is. People are so
Speaker 9: hungry for a story to you know, they'll blow up
Speaker 9: guys and make it bigger than what it is. And
Speaker 9: then once we once the pre season started to be like, man,
Speaker 9: I thought this guy was balling. Yeah, he was balling
Speaker 9: in the eyesight of these people that need a story.
Speaker 6: You know, you know, you know what you know what
Speaker 6: pisses me off?
Speaker 7: What just and we all know if you follow this
Speaker 7: show for any amount of time, my thoughts and my
Speaker 7: feelings on Dak Prescott as a quarterback, as a leader,
Speaker 7: whatever have you. But what pisses me off because I
Speaker 7: am one hundred percent always going to be on the
Speaker 7: side of the player when.
Speaker 6: It comes to gain money. And maybe i'm at fact.
Speaker 7: Because you listen to some of these fans and whether
Speaker 7: it's social media, whether it's calling or texts or whatever
Speaker 7: it is. And everyone has the right to an opinion.
Speaker 7: Doesn't mean your opinion is right. You have the right
Speaker 7: to it doesn't mean it's right. But what pisches me
Speaker 7: off is when people are like, oh, he shouldn't get this,
Speaker 7: and he shouldn't get that because of this and this
Speaker 7: and that and.
Speaker 6: This is my camera, right jas.
Speaker 7: I'm willing to I'm willing to bet money that when
Speaker 7: your little annual bonus time, your little bonus time comes
Speaker 7: around and and and the companies like, hey, we're giving
Speaker 7: we're giving out dollar twenty five bonuses, we're giving out
Speaker 7: dollar fifty bonuses per hour, We're giving out this and
Speaker 7: this and this and that, and you didn't get your bonus,
Speaker 7: that you didn't get your pay amount according to the
Speaker 7: work production that you think you deserve, and that the
Speaker 7: money that you're talking about you deserve, because this is
Speaker 7: what the market is for your position. Go somewhere, you
Speaker 7: have a fit, you have a conniption, you would have
Speaker 7: an aneurysm. If somehow, somewhere you looked around the office
Speaker 7: in your particular field and you said, boy Suzanne got
Speaker 7: a two dollar raise, Boy Bob got a two dollars
Speaker 7: twenty five cent raise, boy Margaret got a three dollar raise.
Speaker 6: Where the hell is my raise?
Speaker 7: I'm on par to doing the same thing that those
Speaker 7: other people do, but I don't get a.
Speaker 6: Raise of market value. I don't get my boneses like
Speaker 6: everyone else. You have a fit.
Speaker 7: But then you get on these social media sites and
Speaker 7: you get on these different blogs, and all of a
Speaker 7: sudden youre talking about, Oh, he shouldn't get this and
Speaker 7: he shouldn't get that. Listen, ladies and gentlemen, this is
Speaker 7: the business. Whether you got only one person in a
Speaker 7: year gets a chance to win the Super Bowl, and
Speaker 7: I get it. Most of you are going to say,
Speaker 7: and I say the same thing. We want to see
Speaker 7: more production in the playoffs, but we're talking about business.
Speaker 7: Very few quarterbacks have the regular season record of Dak Prescott,
Speaker 7: numbers of Dak Prescott, the consistency of Dak Prescott. So
Speaker 7: when it comes around this whole thing about oh we
Speaker 7: should take less and do this and this and this
Speaker 7: and that, know the hell he shouldn't because you wouldn't,
Speaker 7: because you would not if you heard that Martha and
Speaker 7: Barbara and Bob got a raise to market value and
Speaker 7: you didn't.
Speaker 6: You'll be going to see HR.
Speaker 7: You'll be going to see one of the companies now
Speaker 7: because you because you have been discriminated on.
Speaker 6: So stop you, guys. I'm sick of it. I'm sick
Speaker 6: of it. I'm sick of it.
Speaker 7: You have to understand, this is the business, and sometimes
Speaker 7: it's not all predicated upon how many playoff games you want.
Speaker 7: And no one more than me wants Dak Prescott and
Speaker 7: the Dallas Cowboys to win more playoff games. But the
Speaker 7: business is the business, and that's just what it is.
Speaker 7: And right now he has set himself up to be
Speaker 7: in the business of being one of the highest paid
Speaker 7: quarterbacks in NFL history. Now that may only last for
Speaker 7: a year. That may only last for six months, because
Speaker 7: the next person in line will get above market value
Speaker 7: or at market value.
Speaker 6: So please y'all stop it.
Speaker 7: Stop texting me, stop tweeting me. I don't want to
Speaker 7: hear it anymore. If you're not taking the same approach
Speaker 7: down at the warehouse or at your cubicle or wherever
Speaker 7: you're working at, if you're not taking the same approach
Speaker 7: when it comes to contract time, if you're not taking
Speaker 7: the same approach when it comes to getting market value
Speaker 7: for the work that you feel you deserve, shut the
Speaker 7: hell up, shut up, don't talk to me, don't talk
Speaker 7: to anyone about it. I don't want to hear your opinion.
Speaker 7: I don't want to hear your concerns. I don't want
Speaker 7: to hear your gripes because his sixty and your dollar
Speaker 7: twenty five is the same damn thing. Because I'm sure,
Speaker 7: I'm sure if they told you, hey, you know, we're
Speaker 7: not going to give you this because we need to
Speaker 7: spread this thing around the office. Excuse me, you have
Speaker 7: a fit, So y'all stop with that man. The man
Speaker 7: is gonna get the money, whether it's in Dallas or
Speaker 7: whether it's in one of these thirty one other cities.
Speaker 7: The money is coming his way. He's getting ready to
Speaker 7: make fifty five million dollars this year, whether y'all like
Speaker 7: it or not, already on the books. So please, this
Speaker 7: is the going rate for playing quarterback in the National
Speaker 7: Football League. Don't like it, go watch rugby, go watch basketball,
Speaker 7: go watch baseball, baseball. But this is where the market is.
Speaker 7: Feel how you want to feel. Argue with your mother.
Speaker 7: He's going to get this money.
Speaker 9: Sorry, Jesse, Jesse, Yes you're there, I'm here, Jesse. I
Speaker 9: agree with everything you said one hundred percent. But y'all know, Jesse,
Speaker 9: you don't want y'all to stop tweeting him. Faith I do,
Speaker 9: I will, I promise you know all that stuff. Jesse said.
Speaker 9: He wants your opinion. He may not respect your opinion.
Speaker 9: He were respected, but he may not agree with your opinion.
Speaker 9: Everything Jesse said is true except continue to x him. Okay,
Speaker 9: thank you.
Speaker 5: I look, I agree with you.
Speaker 4: Like the people that are on that that are on
Speaker 4: that hill, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't understand that.
Speaker 4: The two hills that I that I agree with are
Speaker 4: he what he's gonna get paid? Someone's gonna either here
Speaker 4: or wherever. Like you said, someone's gonna pay in that money.
Speaker 4: I think we went down a list and he was
Speaker 4: off the air the other day. There's seven seven.
Speaker 7: Viable cities, twelve teams twelve and there was seven we.
Speaker 5: Were legit, legit.
Speaker 4: Five are like I maybe if they sit this guy,
Speaker 4: he considered him away. But there was something that's like
Speaker 4: hey tomorrow that would pick that phone up and be
Speaker 4: like how much?
Speaker 5: And then you get a bit more with them.
Speaker 4: There's no telling where that goes, right, And Dak has
Speaker 4: always bet on himself and will continue to bet on
Speaker 4: himself because he keeps winning, and he bets on himself.
Speaker 4: What I the two I think the two camps that
Speaker 4: you have are either you pay him to stay here
Speaker 4: because you think he can get you to where you
Speaker 4: need to be. He's a top five regular season quarterback no.
Speaker 5: Matter how you look at it.
Speaker 4: Right now, right, I think the knock on him is
Speaker 4: he hasn't won the big game.
Speaker 5: You need to think about that.
Speaker 6: Don't think about it. That's not that's not.
Speaker 9: And I think the one question, the one question, the
Speaker 9: one question, Actually big Kurt Cousins got paid. Did he
Speaker 9: just get paid this offseason?
Speaker 6: Twice?
Speaker 9: The only question? You got action twice?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Dak's gonna get paid.
Speaker 4: It's as a Dallas Cowboy fan, do you want to
Speaker 4: be in the conversation every year and be.
Speaker 5: In the playoffs? Right? Because you're gonna get there with Dak.
Speaker 4: You're you're you're most likely going to be in that
Speaker 4: conversation every year. And you might have to live with
Speaker 4: not winning those big games because that's been the history here.
Speaker 4: Or have you come to the realization and and that like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm ready to move on.
Speaker 5: He can't win me the big game. But then, what
Speaker 5: what do you have?
Speaker 4: Would you rather go gamble and remember and go through
Speaker 4: the days of Quincy and Chad Hutchinson and Vinnie Testa
Speaker 4: Verdi and Drew bled and what was that ten year
Speaker 4: span they went through until they back then to Tony
Speaker 4: Romo like that, that is a very if think about
Speaker 4: all that, Like Nate said, these quarterbacks are getting paid
Speaker 4: like that because there's only about ten of.
Speaker 5: Them that give you that chance to be in the
Speaker 5: playoffs every year.
Speaker 4: Like even if you think Dak can't win the big one,
Speaker 4: Parcels always said, get me to the.
Speaker 5: Dance, and you never know what happens. You know.
Speaker 6: Happen.
Speaker 4: But that's well, I mean, you got to think, is
Speaker 4: the team come to that realization either hey, this is
Speaker 4: all the money we really have and we we aren't
Speaker 4: budgeting on this, or hey, when I saw that playoff game,
Speaker 4: I don't know if you can get us where we
Speaker 4: need to be and we're moving on and we're just we're.
Speaker 5: Trying to make it look good for the public.
Speaker 4: I think it's one of two, right, You're either really
Speaker 4: trying to work and you don't have the money, because
Speaker 4: if you had the money, you.
Speaker 6: Can already pay you. The money's there.
Speaker 5: Let me ask you, let me.
Speaker 6: Ask y'all this.
Speaker 5: Let's tell you what. Let's take a quick break. Nate,
Speaker 5: will you will you stay on for a couple of minutes.
Speaker 4: When we come back, will you say on for a
Speaker 4: couple of minutes, because we hadn't talked about this this partly.
Speaker 5: We'll be right back. I got I got a question.
Speaker 5: When we come back.
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the final segment of Hanging with the Boys,
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Speaker 5: We're talking about contracts.
Speaker 4: We've kind of stayed away from this the whole off season,
Speaker 4: but Jesse had enough and he broke down and he
Speaker 4: addressed He addressed everybody out there, and Nate was right
Speaker 4: on point.
Speaker 5: Jesse was right. But all accept the part. Don't stop
Speaker 5: tweeting him because then he would have anything, He would
Speaker 5: have anything to do in his spare time. My question
Speaker 5: is is.
Speaker 4: There going to ever be a point We saw it
Speaker 4: with the running back two years ago where the teams
Speaker 4: finally just said enough right, and you've seen you've seen
Speaker 4: teams be successful with quarterbacks on their rookie deals that
Speaker 4: weren't superstars and they weren't elite quarterbacks. They were good
Speaker 4: quarterbacks and they had a lot of great pieces around
Speaker 4: him and they were able to build right the jury,
Speaker 4: I guess the jury is still out on Brock Purdy.
Speaker 4: But that's kind of the model a lot of these
Speaker 4: teams are going with now right, It's like get them cheap,
Speaker 4: lock them in, win what you can win, pay the
Speaker 4: pieces around him, and then we'll figure it out when
Speaker 4: the contract comes up. Is there ever going to be
Speaker 4: a time in the NFL where ownership goes Okay, quarterback
Speaker 4: salary is getting ridiculous.
Speaker 5: We think we can win with a.
Speaker 4: Decent quarterback, a great defense, and some great pieces around
Speaker 4: the quarterback and just you know, kind of like what
Speaker 4: the Ravens did back in the day, right, or do
Speaker 4: you think these salaries for quarterback are just gonna.
Speaker 5: Keep going, going, going, going going. I.
Speaker 7: In my heart of hearts, I believe whenever we get
Speaker 7: to this whole new uh CBA situation, right, because they're
Speaker 7: gonna want that eighteenth game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, just so y'all know.
Speaker 4: They're gonna they're gonna separate the quarterback position and say
Speaker 4: this guy is gonna.
Speaker 7: Have Yeah, they're gonna say we're because it's not gonna stop.
Speaker 7: This is the most important position on the football field
Speaker 7: and for every one or two teams, Because if there's
Speaker 7: only one or two teams that you can really say
Speaker 7: had capitalized or made it really worth their while on
Speaker 7: a rookie deal that got them to the you know,
Speaker 7: promised Land. Of course, you could say Patrick mahone before
Speaker 7: he got his deal. They were, they were, they were,
Speaker 7: you know, Scott flying rock per Is. I think, uh,
Speaker 7: you know, it's a it's a negative connotation. But to
Speaker 7: say is a system quarterback, FYI, people, every quarterback.
Speaker 6: Is a system quarterback.
Speaker 7: I just want to let y'all, want to let y'all
Speaker 7: know this just you didn't listen if you take anything
Speaker 7: from Salt Pepper Poppy, every quarterback is a system quarterback.
Speaker 6: The system plays to the strength of the quarterback.
Speaker 7: Rock party and then at one point time Jalen hurts, right,
Speaker 7: But we see how that even when you paid all
Speaker 7: those pieces, it still didn't you got to the dance.
Speaker 7: But there's other teams that you can say, well that failed,
Speaker 7: the Bears that failed, the Patriots that failed, the Steelers,
Speaker 7: that there's our teams over the Jaguars in the list
Speaker 7: of the Titans in Tampa, and you know, Houston's kind
Speaker 7: of got going in the right direction. But there are
Speaker 7: team at the team, at the team that went and
Speaker 7: got quarterbacks on rookie contracts and put other pieces around
Speaker 7: them only to find out, damn, this is the most
Speaker 7: important position right now that we have to pay even
Speaker 7: you know, even when Green Bay went and got Love
Speaker 7: to play behind behind Aaron Rodgers. I think the Love
Speaker 7: deal is a smart deal if you're being if I'm
Speaker 7: being honest with you, because if he has another season
Speaker 7: like that next year, the price is going away. It's
Speaker 7: gonna be on the sixty five year type deal. And
Speaker 7: now you're stuck. Now you're like, damn, we gotta pay
Speaker 7: him this. So they're like, let me get ahead of
Speaker 7: you before it gets a little because you're.
Speaker 5: Putting your eggs in that basket. Anyway, go ahead of it.
Speaker 6: Just go ahead and get in front of it.
Speaker 8: So it doesn't make sense the cowboys keep waiting because
Speaker 8: it just like we've said before, the price just keeps
Speaker 8: going up no matter what they think.
Speaker 6: As the leagues fall, they just and and forgive me.
Speaker 7: I don't know I saw if it was if it
Speaker 7: was r JA Ochoa or if it was with Choda
Speaker 7: is one of those two guys, and please forgive me.
Speaker 7: I'm not trying to steal anybody's thunder. If it was
Speaker 7: Yoda or j R J, I'm sorry. One of the
Speaker 7: guys wrote, and it talked about four or five months ago.
Speaker 7: There wasn't a Jared Goff deal it wasn't these other deals,
Speaker 7: Lawrence deals, you know, there wasn't these deals that now
Speaker 7: reset the market again. Could have got it done then,
Speaker 7: same thing with Ceedee Lamb four or five months ago.
Speaker 7: These deal that you're you could have set the market.
Speaker 7: You could have set them. You could have said, all here, Bok,
Speaker 7: go fifty three, fifty two and then let those guys
Speaker 7: build off that. But you and Jerry said it, I
Speaker 7: want to see more leaves fall.
Speaker 6: They bened up on it, Bro and then now you're stuck.
Speaker 7: But you had an opportunity four or five months ago,
Speaker 7: before the Golf deal was done, before the Lawrence deal
Speaker 7: was done, before the Love deal was done, there were
Speaker 7: like four or five quarterbacks who got deals done in
Speaker 7: the last four or five months. And you still haven't
Speaker 7: got that's deal done. This thing is only going to
Speaker 7: get richer. And if he goes out this season. And
Speaker 7: this is this is the part from the player's perspective,
Speaker 7: and that you can jump in on.
Speaker 6: This where the ego comes into play.
Speaker 7: Because I don't care how humble you are, you write
Speaker 7: things that you say in front of the media. There
Speaker 7: is there is an internal hundred per goal that goes
Speaker 7: along with being.
Speaker 4: That an alpha dog, that competitive house. Do you measure
Speaker 4: yourself against people in the league other than your money?
Speaker 7: And then now you're gonna say, if I go out
Speaker 7: this year and I'm another top two, top three MVP
Speaker 7: candidate and I have another eleven twelve win season and
Speaker 7: I don't give a damn what happens in the playoffs,
Speaker 7: guess what now, I'm really cause you made me wait
Speaker 7: even more. Here's my number and I'm not budging from it.
Speaker 7: Or that's another thing. He walks and you get nothing,
Speaker 7: and you're still the books next year for another forty
Speaker 7: five million dollars and you get like it is a
Speaker 7: it is a It is an asinine thing to even
Speaker 7: think about, Like do you screwed up so bad in
Speaker 7: this situation? Just pay the man of money and rectify
Speaker 7: and let's move on. We'll figure it out later on.
Speaker 7: But you put yourself in such you now you can say,
Speaker 7: you know what, I'm away from it. We're done, we're
Speaker 7: paying this money. Next year, we'll have we have in
Speaker 7: the books, and we'll just move forward. But I just
Speaker 7: find it very hard to believe in a in a
Speaker 7: in a in a league that is quarterback dominant and
Speaker 7: for an owner that constantly tells us I don't have
Speaker 7: I don't have a long time for a bad time
Speaker 7: or whatever the terminology that he find that quarterback and
Speaker 7: rebuilding with that. It is a the crap shoot. Like
Speaker 7: for twenty years, you've got the luck of the draw.
Speaker 7: You found an undrafted player in Tony Romo who made
Speaker 7: you relevant and made you competitive each and every week.
Speaker 7: And then you found a fourth round pick.
Speaker 4: That had to get three people hurt in front of
Speaker 4: him just to get on the field.
Speaker 6: In preseason, you were given.
Speaker 5: Kellen Moore that practice, That practice not good, right. The
Speaker 5: only reason why you found out is because he got
Speaker 5: into it.
Speaker 7: And then Kelling broke his ankles in the battle with
Speaker 7: Jamil Showers, who then turned into a safety. So my
Speaker 7: only thing is about this is that I don't know
Speaker 7: how much you can continue to press your luck to
Speaker 7: think that the next great white hole you're gonna find
Speaker 7: in the UFSL, you know, or somewhere like that. You
Speaker 7: can find yourself in a situation where you're Cleveland, where
Speaker 7: you're for twenty years, you're trying to find a quarterback
Speaker 7: and it just doesn't work out. And if you don't
Speaker 7: have a quarterback in this league. I'm telling you guys it.
Speaker 4: Nate, do you think ownership will ever get to the
Speaker 4: point where they have to stop paying this money? Or
Speaker 4: do you think it's like Jesse said, it's just so
Speaker 4: out of control and it's so such a quarterback dominant
Speaker 4: league that they're just gonna they're gonna have to figure
Speaker 4: something out.
Speaker 6: I think he agrees with me.
Speaker 8: You know, I don't hear what they have been talking
Speaker 8: about is creating a separate salary cap for quarterback. It's coming, yeah,
Speaker 8: but even then you're gonna be paying a bundle.
Speaker 5: Did Kurt listen to the last segment.
Speaker 6: I don't know, but exactly what I said.
Speaker 4: Nate has its own mute, and he's probably having a
Speaker 4: full conversation without it.
Speaker 5: Has no idea that he's on mute.
Speaker 7: But no, Kurt, Yes, no, you're fine. You're fine. But
Speaker 7: I think that's where I think that's where we're going.
Speaker 7: I think that's just where we're going with it.
Speaker 5: I think so.
Speaker 4: I think you almost have to to put a good
Speaker 4: product on the field because you're gonna ham see letter, Nate,
Speaker 4: You're gonna ham stream yourself so much by or or
Speaker 4: you do some kind of luxury tax where you get
Speaker 4: this much and you know, kind of like what basketball
Speaker 4: does you get?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 7: They got to figure they got the apron now like
Speaker 7: they have, is that the basketball football apri is football.
Speaker 6: I can confused some time, but it's basketball.
Speaker 7: But but yeah, as long as the TV deals continue
Speaker 7: to grow and the profit margin continues to grow in
Speaker 7: the game of football, you can't.
Speaker 6: There's no way the.
Speaker 7: Owners can keep making money in the players. And then
Speaker 7: now you're adding excuse me, an eighteenth game, So now
Speaker 7: you're adding. If you're adding an eighteenth game, that number
Speaker 7: goes up again. Like the number is going to keep going.
Speaker 5: And the difference in football and other sports.
Speaker 4: Like football teams don't you don't lose money in football,
Speaker 4: like some of these small market baseball teams. You know,
Speaker 4: you can lose basketball, you can lose money. NFL the
Speaker 4: lowest revenue team, you're not losing money. So you're not
Speaker 4: at a competitive disadvantage by the cap not going.
Speaker 7: Up or being in a sid No, because everyone everyone like,
Speaker 7: unless the NFL loses money, teams aren't losing money because
Speaker 7: each team is allocated dollar the revenue share.
Speaker 6: So I'm getting that regardless Yah, welcome back Fellas.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree with you. I this thing what Jesse
Speaker 9: said earlier about when they go into the new collecutive
Speaker 9: bargaining agreement, players are going to stand up because players
Speaker 9: better realize you can't have a guy getting twenty five
Speaker 9: percent of the cap and leaving seventy five percent for
Speaker 9: fifty one or fifty two other guys. The players are
Speaker 9: going to have to step up and say, you know what,
Speaker 9: you either separate this these quarterbacks situations or they have
Speaker 9: to fall up under a certain percentage of of the
Speaker 9: of the team's cap, because I mean, it's hurting the
Speaker 9: league as a whole, right, Yeah, it's hurting the league
Speaker 9: and it's hurting the players.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I mean I'm not I'm not begrudging that this fifty
Speaker 9: five get to fifty five, But somebody on your team
Speaker 9: will say, how do I get paid? I'm worth thirty
Speaker 9: million or twenty five I'm worth eighteen. I can't get
Speaker 9: paid because we're just giving all the money to three players. Yeah,
Speaker 9: it's gonna they gonna, they gonna rectify. If they don't,
Speaker 9: shame on them, Shame on them, and more power to
Speaker 9: the quarterback.
Speaker 4: I was just wanting to know your thoughts on if
Speaker 4: you know, they said no to the running back position
Speaker 4: two years ago and it was like the money stopped,
Speaker 4: like we're not paying you guys, and they just quit.
Speaker 4: I didn't think it whatever happened with quarterbacks, but I mean,
Speaker 4: I just wanted to get y'all tall.
Speaker 7: I mean, they started to have the evidence to show
Speaker 7: that I can plub and play a quarter I mean
Speaker 7: a running back, right, they started having the events to
Speaker 7: show that. Now, if there's somehow some way that you
Speaker 7: can continue to find success success with the with the
Speaker 7: Brock parties of the world, then sure maybe, but I
Speaker 7: don't see it.
Speaker 6: I don't see it.
Speaker 7: I don't see that happening. I mean, because that is
Speaker 7: what running back you have. I mean I can put
Speaker 7: I got a big back, of small back, of running
Speaker 7: you know, fast back or slow back. How about first
Speaker 7: down back or fourth I can have three or four
Speaker 7: different backs and you know, complete a job.
Speaker 6: This ain't the old days where you can have a
Speaker 6: quarterback comeing in and out.
Speaker 7: You know, this is my running quarterback, this is my
Speaker 7: short artist quarterback, this is my deep throwing quarterback.
Speaker 6: You got to have one guy.
Speaker 7: Yep, there's been one guy. That goes out there and
Speaker 7: play this position. And there's a reason why there's only
Speaker 7: there's only thirty two thirty two jobs starting jobs in
Speaker 7: this league. And for the most part, we only really
Speaker 7: talk about the top twelve of those. So out of
Speaker 7: the thirty two, you talk about a third of that
Speaker 7: are really the only because it ain't that many out there.
Speaker 7: It's like left tackles.
Speaker 6: You just ain't. You ain't going.
Speaker 7: Down to your local Lows and Walmart and home deep
Speaker 7: on and going on to the utility all and going yep,
Speaker 7: right there, load that up. That's six six three twenty
Speaker 7: five pound number feet dude, long arms. Yeah, put him
Speaker 7: in the car. I'll take two of them.
Speaker 6: You just aren't so nate.
Speaker 4: Since you called back in, I don't want to. I
Speaker 4: don't want you to call in for nothing. Let's talk
Speaker 4: real quick. We got to get out of here. But
Speaker 4: your guys, Zeke, we hadn't talked about the running.
Speaker 5: Back and all.
Speaker 9: That's what that is. The reason I called back in.
Speaker 9: I wrapped was beak this morning. The first thing he
Speaker 9: told the tail Kurt and say hello, Kurt, I'm back.
Speaker 9: That's the first thing you told.
Speaker 5: Me give me on that show and snake bike. Do
Speaker 5: not get me on that show.
Speaker 9: How is it?
Speaker 5: How's it looking? How does he look?
Speaker 9: How do you look fresh?
Speaker 6: Does he?
Speaker 9: How does look fresh? I think, how do you think
Speaker 9: the car going to go?
Speaker 5: How do you think the carriers are going to go?
Speaker 5: This year?
Speaker 9: He gets twelve, ten to twelve and then as the.
Speaker 6: Way he's gonna be to start running back week.
Speaker 9: One he told the starter and you'll get Yeah, the
Speaker 9: deal is this right here. I think they were building
Speaker 9: them up as the season go on. I think they
Speaker 9: will ask a lot from ricodone and maybe another guy.
Speaker 9: Who the other guy is, I don't know, but I
Speaker 9: think they will build him up as the season go on. Yes,
Speaker 9: he's gonna be the starter, but you know, but if
Speaker 9: they get twenty carriers out of Zeke, I just don't
Speaker 9: see how that happens all year. I think ric o'donald
Speaker 9: has to come up either another guy has to come
Speaker 9: up and share these just before McCarthy has been here
Speaker 9: before he know how to use the back the proper way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, hey, Nate, hang on the phone after
Speaker 5: we go off air. I got a question for you.
Speaker 5: Just hang on all right, We're gonna get out of here.
Speaker 4: Nate, thanks for calling in, Jesse, Kurt, seeing you guys, Jazz,
Speaker 4: thanks for keep us on the air.
Speaker 5: What's my guy's name's out of camp? He got his
Speaker 5: own show.
Speaker 9: Now I'm standing right with Josh and sharing them by
Speaker 9: the slap. Yeah, I'm like, don't's respected shounding like, there you.
Speaker 4: Go, you get me, you get my back out there.
Speaker 4: Nat All, all right, we will be back. I won't
Speaker 4: be here Friday. I'm going to the Hall of Fame fellas.
Speaker 5: Wow work, Yeah, I'm going up tomorrow. I'll be back
Speaker 5: on Saturday. So I'll see you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, with the yellow jackets, gold jackets, rub.
Speaker 5: Some shoulders with some gold jackets up there. I'll report
Speaker 5: back to you next week. I'll be back Tuesday. Soe
Speaker 5: y'all have fun on Friday. Nate, hang on, I got
Speaker 5: a quick question for you. We will be back. They
Speaker 5: will be back on Friday, and I'll see you next week.
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